I also just jumped into the V2 Siboor kit, absolutely love to have this as a guide once I get started. I know a lot of us are currently waiting on it to arrive, having the wisdom of someone who's gone through it is priceless. Thank you so much.
@@MrCanadianhero It was totally worth it, but overall I wouldn't recommend it for most people. Getting long running prints to finish is a nearly impossible mission, and most prints are going to be long running. Mine is setup on a Voron 2.4 R2 running the Filametrix Stealthburner with an Orbiter 2 extruder and both sensors. I think my setup is about as optimal as it can get, having all the ERCFv2 build components, and it was still a ton of effort. If you just want multi-color prints, this probably isn't for you. If you enjoy the process, tweaking, testing, etc., absolutely go for it.
My kit from Siboor arrives early next week. Your video is perfect timing for me. I recently finished the Voron 2.4 300 from Siboor (with TAP, just before they switched to cartographer) and it was an excellent project. Really looking forward to building this and following along with your video. I've enjoyed all your other videos so far, so I'm pleased you've kicked this project off.
@@KapmansBasementWorkshop I may have spoken too quickly about my ERCF delivery - DHL is "holding my package for payments owing", which is what I see when I enter the tracking number, but DHL has not reached out to me at all. This is NOT an Aliexpress/Siboor problem, but last time they used FedEx and it was great. I might have to request they don't use DHL for future purchases. FedEx notified me in advance that I had money owing for Customs, so that I could pay it and not delay delivery. DHL seems less concerned with delays during the last 100 miles.🤬
I think I would love to have some sort of filament runout up near the ERCF so that I could load a few blacks in a row and have the system auto-switch during really large prints
The buffer has all that and more. And you can load multiple black finlaments just for when one runs out. All 8 spools can be black if you need it to be.
Oh, how nice to see your new video! I'm just waiting for the ercf part of this device from trianglelab, it will be easy to build the device correctly with the help of your video ;) Thank you so much. respect
Finally!!!! Have been hoping someone would do a build series like this! I cant do the live streams. Thank you!!! I just ordered the exact same kit a few days ago so this will come in handy for sure!
Glad to bump into your vids 👍🏻 , just ordered the kit ..trying now to print ahead , have the BOM list downloaden from github but 1- there are things I don't need to print 2- I don't quite yet know exactly know when it need to be printed black and when red .Printed the manual but it takes some figuring out. also I have a Qauila(ender clone) altered a lot with one of it a raspberry pi with klipper on it so i reckon it has to work. bit worried about the cutter ..i have no way of placing it to the extruder (direct drive) so it has to go to the rabbit..but if the new fillament s going to push the old filament enough to stay right behind it and flow into the extruder? we'll see .. thank you for your buidling vids
The manual describes how the part names work which shows you which should be colored as accents vs the main color. It's the same page that describes the print settings required. If you have an ender style printer, can the different mounts for the stealthburner be used to mount stealthburner so you can install the cutter? Thank you for watching and commenting!
I think you can easily scale it down to 2 colors. I would probably add a few extra than you might need just for convenience. It can give you color choice without needing to swap filaments manually or also give you a choice of filament type. Being able to switch between ABS and PLA between different prints (for example).
For those that are wanting to use the ERCF with proprietary printers like Bambu labs, you need to either have a Klipper based 3D Printer or change your toolhead to a Klipper based Printer. Klipper plays hand in hand with the software that that controls the ERCF v2. Syncing both the 3D printer and the ERCF using the same software that controls both units. You won’t be able to use this system with a Bambu Labs printer because Klipper is open source as to where your Bambu labs printer is not.
I notice that the custom 80t wheel that sibor includes doesn't quite fit correctly. it can rub on the outside of the the motor arm. also there is approximately 5.2mm space between the 80t wheel and spacer to the bearing, the spacer should be touching the bearing. I have disassembled and tried assembling without belt and you may find like in my case the 80t wheel is slightly rubbing.
@@KapmansBasementWorkshop I have cut a 5.3mm piece of PTFE Bowden tube and put it between the wheel and spacer, to kind of replicate the same size of the original printable 80t wheel. It has given me good guaranteed clearance. 👍
How long did it take to print all the parts? I've made a few plates, and it looks like on my V2 350mm with Dragon UHF it's still going to be like 5 days and that doesn't include ERCT, surely that can't be right?!
Hi, I probably sound dumb, but I want to be sure I know what I'm buying. Does Siboor ERCF V2 kit include 3D printed parts? From my understanding it doesn't which isn't really an issue, I just couldn't find it written anywhere.
I tried that. I think your clamps are of much higher quality than mine. So this worked well. That said, this is a great tip and thank you for posting it!
I've been waiting for a kit that supports 12 channels. It is weird all of the kits that are out support 6/8/9 channels when the official BOM is for 4/8/12 channels. Also the BTT MMB only supports 10 pre-gate sensors instead of 12. Also it has 4 Stepper Drivers instead of the 2 needed for ERCF v2. Not sure what the deal is with the suppliers on ERCF v2.
There are other MMU designs out there that use more steppers, BTT's MMB (as well as Mellow's own take on it) was designed to accommodate these other MMUs along with the ERCF. As for more end stops, my plan is to tuck a Pi Pico under the buffer with a CAN transceiver. I'll just tap what I need off the backside on the MMB.
I'm about to start the filament blocks, but it it seems that it would not take much to bring this to 12. I'll keep this in mind and consider how I would extend it if needed. That said, I would have been very happy with 6. Thanks!
@@KapmansBasementWorkshopalso need the 8mm rods, new belt and longer cable chain for the main body, as well as the nuts, bolts, BMG extruder gears, and magnets to go in each filament block too. I bought half meter rods and extrusion, so I'm probably going to cut them down to fit a round 18 filament blocks. Could cram 19 on there, but that is not a nice round number.
That 20x20 extrusion nice improvement. So similar to a v1 so im still a no for upgrad. Keen for the other chapters, expecilly the filament cutter and and sensor. Very cool.
I also just jumped into the V2 Siboor kit, absolutely love to have this as a guide once I get started. I know a lot of us are currently waiting on it to arrive, having the wisdom of someone who's gone through it is priceless. Thank you so much.
I hope this series proves useful. Thank you for the kind words!
6 months on. how is it working for you? do you like it? was it worth it? is yours in a direct drive printer?
@@MrCanadianhero It was totally worth it, but overall I wouldn't recommend it for most people. Getting long running prints to finish is a nearly impossible mission, and most prints are going to be long running.
Mine is setup on a Voron 2.4 R2 running the Filametrix Stealthburner with an Orbiter 2 extruder and both sensors. I think my setup is about as optimal as it can get, having all the ERCFv2 build components, and it was still a ton of effort.
If you just want multi-color prints, this probably isn't for you. If you enjoy the process, tweaking, testing, etc., absolutely go for it.
My kit from Siboor arrives early next week. Your video is perfect timing for me. I recently finished the Voron 2.4 300 from Siboor (with TAP, just before they switched to cartographer) and it was an excellent project. Really looking forward to building this and following along with your video. I've enjoyed all your other videos so far, so I'm pleased you've kicked this project off.
How long does it take to get the Ercf kit from siboor, delivered to USA?
Thank you so much! I agree, this is my second kit from them and I think they are great kits.
It took a week. Which is quite fast when comparing to anything I purchased from Aliexpress.
@@KapmansBasementWorkshop I may have spoken too quickly about my ERCF delivery - DHL is "holding my package for payments owing", which is what I see when I enter the tracking number, but DHL has not reached out to me at all. This is NOT an Aliexpress/Siboor problem, but last time they used FedEx and it was great. I might have to request they don't use DHL for future purchases. FedEx notified me in advance that I had money owing for Customs, so that I could pay it and not delay delivery. DHL seems less concerned with delays during the last 100 miles.🤬
@@yardmull3t273 One would think that DHL would want to get it out of their processing center or truck ASAP....
I think I would love to have some sort of filament runout up near the ERCF so that I could load a few blacks in a row and have the system auto-switch during really large prints
The buffer has all that and more. And you can load multiple black finlaments just for when one runs out. All 8 spools can be black if you need it to be.
Thx! Have my kit in hand but haven't started the build yet. Glad to know I will have your videos as an extra resource.
I wish you a fantastic build!
LFG!!!! glad you're back on YT!
Me too. Thank you!
Oh, how nice to see your new video! I'm just waiting for the ercf part of this device from trianglelab, it will be easy to build the device correctly with the help of your video ;) Thank you so much. respect
Thank you very much for your kind words. And I wish you a great build!
So glad you are making this series.
Thanks for the kind words. I can't wait to complete this!
Finally!!!! Have been hoping someone would do a build series like this! I cant do the live streams. Thank you!!! I just ordered the exact same kit a few days ago so this will come in handy for sure!
I can't either....I fully understand. I wish you a great build!
Been planning to buy the kit at the end of the year🎉
It's a good kit. I recommend it.
Awesome, I've been on the fence about building one myself so I'm looking forward to the rest of your series to help me make the decision.
🍻
Go for it! Thank you!
@@KapmansBasementWorkshop I gave into the peer pressure 😎
@@QEngineering It will all be ok. 😃
Awesome, thanks for documenting this build.
I hope you find it useful!
woot! super excited to follow along. im hoping one day LDO makes a kit
Well, if you need one before LDO gets to it, so far, this is a very nice kit! Thank you!
Another great video! I look forward to taking on this challenge as well!
Go for it! And thank you!
Welcome back. Its been awhile since you posted. Waiting for part 3 now but I think it will get to part 6 before it works reliably. Hope I am wrong😢
It's good to be back. Thank you! Don't take it personally, but I hope you are wrong too! :) But I fear you are most likely correct...
Glad to bump into your vids 👍🏻 , just ordered the kit ..trying now to print ahead , have the BOM list downloaden from github but 1- there are things I don't need to print 2- I don't quite yet know exactly know when it need to be printed black and when red .Printed the manual but it takes some figuring out. also I have a Qauila(ender clone) altered a lot with one of it a raspberry pi with klipper on it so i reckon it has to work. bit worried about the cutter ..i have no way of placing it to the extruder (direct drive) so it has to go to the rabbit..but if the new fillament s going to push the old filament enough to stay right behind it and flow into the extruder? we'll see .. thank you for your buidling vids
The manual describes how the part names work which shows you which should be colored as accents vs the main color. It's the same page that describes the print settings required. If you have an ender style printer, can the different mounts for the stealthburner be used to mount stealthburner so you can install the cutter? Thank you for watching and commenting!
Were the grub screws already screwed into the CNC gear or were they in the packaging separately?
I believe they were already screwed in. Mainly because I can't remember screwing them in myself.
It seems to miss in some orders; got response from Siboor
This may be a dumb question but it looks like it might be possible to scale this down to just two colors?
I think you can easily scale it down to 2 colors. I would probably add a few extra than you might need just for convenience. It can give you color choice without needing to swap filaments manually or also give you a choice of filament type. Being able to switch between ABS and PLA between different prints (for example).
“KIDS! STFU and go downstairs, Kapmans Basement is doing an ERCF build!”
But Dad Aurora has a new review.
Thank you! Ha!
Who is "dad Aurora"?
@@KapmansBasementWorkshop curse you grammar.
@@somhunt5446 Ha!
For those that are wanting to use the ERCF with proprietary printers like Bambu labs, you need to either have a Klipper based 3D Printer or change your toolhead to a Klipper based Printer. Klipper plays hand in hand with the software that that controls the ERCF v2. Syncing both the 3D printer and the ERCF using the same software that controls both units. You won’t be able to use this system with a Bambu Labs printer because Klipper is open source as to where your Bambu labs printer is not.
Good advice. Thank you for posting!
Weird, question, can you give an estimate of how long the endstop wire is? The official docs don't indicate a length for local MCU, just remote.
I fear you may be ahead of me on your build. I'm just not sure yet. But once I get a little further ahead....
Hi, I would like to ask if this ERCF v2 can be used with the QIDI Q1 PRO. thank you for the answers.
This should work with any printer. The challenge is going to be the tool head. Use tip forming and no sensors or replace it with sttealthburner?
does Sibor sell that cnc aluminum red belt wheel separately?
The last time I checked, no. But check the website to see if they sell replacement parts.
@@KapmansBasementWorkshop I found one.
Cool
I notice that the custom 80t wheel that sibor includes doesn't quite fit correctly. it can rub on the outside of the the motor arm. also there is approximately 5.2mm space between the 80t wheel and spacer to the bearing, the spacer should be touching the bearing. I have disassembled and tried assembling without belt and you may find like in my case the 80t wheel is slightly rubbing.
I have not noticed this. But thank you for posting this. I am going to check this shortly.
@@KapmansBasementWorkshop I have cut a 5.3mm piece of PTFE Bowden tube and put it between the wheel and spacer, to kind of replicate the same size of the original printable 80t wheel. It has given me good guaranteed clearance. 👍
is this for a specific printer or any printer running klipper?
It should work for any printer running Klipper.
How long did it take to print all the parts? I've made a few plates, and it looks like on my V2 350mm with Dragon UHF it's still going to be like 5 days and that doesn't include ERCT, surely that can't be right?!
It depends on the speed of your printer, but it's alot of parts! I think it took me close to a week.
Hi, I probably sound dumb, but I want to be sure I know what I'm buying. Does Siboor ERCF V2 kit include 3D printed parts? From my understanding it doesn't which isn't really an issue, I just couldn't find it written anywhere.
It does not. You will need to print those parts by yourself. Thanks for posting!
does this kit works with bambulab printer ? if yes then please specify model ? (i have A1)will it be compatible?
I think if you are willing to replace the Bambu tool head, you can use this. Otherwise I don't see how this would work.
Another way to get those bearings pressed into place is with a C clamp.
I tried that. I think your clamps are of much higher quality than mine. So this worked well. That said, this is a great tip and thank you for posting it!
I've been waiting for a kit that supports 12 channels. It is weird all of the kits that are out support 6/8/9 channels when the official BOM is for 4/8/12 channels. Also the BTT MMB only supports 10 pre-gate sensors instead of 12. Also it has 4 Stepper Drivers instead of the 2 needed for ERCF v2. Not sure what the deal is with the suppliers on ERCF v2.
There are other MMU designs out there that use more steppers, BTT's MMB (as well as Mellow's own take on it) was designed to accommodate these other MMUs along with the ERCF. As for more end stops, my plan is to tuck a Pi Pico under the buffer with a CAN transceiver. I'll just tap what I need off the backside on the MMB.
I'm about to start the filament blocks, but it it seems that it would not take much to bring this to 12. I'll keep this in mind and consider how I would extend it if needed. That said, I would have been very happy with 6. Thanks!
It's really just support for a few additional sensors, filament blocks and extrusion and a d-shaft, right?
@@KapmansBasementWorkshopalso need the 8mm rods, new belt and longer cable chain for the main body, as well as the nuts, bolts, BMG extruder gears, and magnets to go in each filament block too. I bought half meter rods and extrusion, so I'm probably going to cut them down to fit a round 18 filament blocks. Could cram 19 on there, but that is not a nice round number.
Nice ...
Thank you! We should catch up in the next few weeks.....
That 20x20 extrusion nice improvement.
So similar to a v1 so im still a no for upgrad.
Keen for the other chapters, expecilly the filament cutter and and sensor.
Very cool.
Thanks. I has started a v1 series, but I saw this coming and decided to wait. I can't wait to get this working. Thanks for commenting!
Finally you got one.
Ha! I finally did.