Why A TESLA ROADTRIP Is BETTER Than a Gas Car!
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- Think an EV roadtrip is a venture full of range anxiety and slow charging? With a Tesla, nothing could be further from the truth, and in fact it's better than a gas car road trip!
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I've taken many road trips with gas cars, and the past 6 years as a Tesla owner has made the whole thing far easier. Of course you need to stop a bit more often, and for a bit longer. It's actually a pleasure. We stop in various small spots that we might otherwise miss, stretching the legs reduces fatigue substantially, and bathroom/coffee breaks are gonna happen anyway. Initially I had a little range anxiety but it fades quickly. Never had a single actual range issue.
Anyone who dismisses EVs because of this has probably never driven one on a long trip. It's just not a big deal. But the key part is that it's a moot point for 90+% of my travel.
Augusta GA to Tucson AZ round trip, Miami FL to Bar Harbor Maine and back to GA. Two adults, two children, and a weeks worth of luggage in the Model Y with FSD. It's honestly the best travel experience.
2:46 If my budget ever catches back up to my spending, I may buy FSD, but until that day, the base Autopilot+TACC, available in every Tesla is sufficient. As a tired retiree, I would not have considered making the three day 2000 mile drive out to San Diego, and certainly not the 33 hour 1600 mile drive back from Tucson, but for the assistance of TACC and Autopilot, which contributed mightily to the ease and safety of the trip.
John, thanks. We do longer trips by 1) charging to 100% at home the night before, and 2) staying overnight at places wuth free destination charging, again going to 100% there for a fresh start the next morning. Cuts costs and cuts out a Supercharger stop
I've driven to Seattle, San Francisco, Sabta Barbaram, LA, NY, CT, NH, VT in my Model 3 and my wife's Model S several times.. All from Northern NM. FSD is the very best. It makes it easy to drive long distances. FSD makes it easy. I like the charging stops. The S has 400 mile range. I've only worried about range once -- I pulled into a charging station with 5 miles on the gauge. The stops are energizing. I took the no fly pledge in 2018, and we're pretty much net zero for travel and heating. I pay attention to the navigator. Charging is faster if you don't got too low. I only spend 20 minutes on average at a charger. At lunch or dinner we might return to the S with 390 miles range.
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I much prefer a road trip in my model Y as opposed to my CR-V. I've traveled from northern Utah to Galveston, TX and also to St. Louis Missouri on road trips. I travel from the Salt Lake City, UT area to the Long Beach, CA area at least 6 to 8 times per year. An 11 hour trip is increased by about 45 minutes for supercharging, but I always feel more rested after the trip because of the opportunity to walk around while charging and because the car does some of the driving. I've also figured out how to save about 15 minutes of charging on that drive form UT to CA now that they have added additional chargers on the I-15 corridor. I'll charge until I get to a predicted charge level of about 20% at the next charger instead of going to a charger farther away as recommended by the navigation system. This keeps my charging speed much higher since I rarely have to charge above 70% or 80%. I now have over 67,000 miles on my car. I'm been a driver for over 45 years and this is, by far, my favorite vehicle to drive.
Supercharging makes one get out of the car for a few minutes which helps you also recharge your brain and probably makes for safer driving. Better on the bladder and back as well.
EV drivers need that, I understand.
Agreed, I find myself arriving from an EV road trip much more relaxed and not exhausted like when I was driving an ICE car.
I remember years ago watching my speed, my range in my gas car, and realizing I could be home in Indianapolis by 6:00 pm while heading home from New Mexico. What a pleasure it was spending the extra time in Saint Louis rush hour, and getting home after midnight!
Just did a 6hour trip from London ontario to Gatineau QC and honestly loved every stop as almost every charger had many options for conveniences. Very stress free as far as finding available chargers....costs were more than half that of ice...I could go on and on but...simply put tesla is the standard
Last September I made a 1500 km (~900 mi) trip through Germany over a week with my M3p.
1. next to the Autobahn there are plenty of Superchargers and I *always* found a free slot. In the very rural areas you need a little planning.
2. If it doesn't rain and you walk around your car and talk to the other drivers, you'll have a lot of nice Tesla talk :)
3. On my first stint I drove (whenever it was possible) comfortable 170-190 km/h (~120 mph). Boy did this drag from the battery! So for the rest of the trip I switched on autopilot (FSD ist still not allowed in Germany/EU) at a 130 km/h.
European countries with the most Tesla Superchargers are Germany (164), France (144), the Uk (113), and Norway (94).
If you drive an ICE car at this speed you will have to visit petrol station much more often as well.😂
Just completed a short round trip to NYC from Philly area. had two grandkids and my wife.
planned on a stop but changed my mind enroute. The software found a supercharger, and it FSD(ed) us right to it. It was at the Jersey Gardens Mall. So the kids and my wife hoped out. I backed into an open stall plugged in and everything you describe in the video happened for us too.
I even enjoyed the 6 minute walk from the charger to the food court cause I needed the exercise
This is gonna sound mean but the Queue of non teslas waiting for the other chargers, served to validate my choice to buy the Tesla - I drove a Kona and a Bolt before I picked the Model 3
both the above models could be seen in the non tesla line- which is where I would have been...
After using FSD for a year I truly appreciate the reduction in fatigue. Blinds pots, staying on speed, stop and go, everything. People can't appreciate it until they use it
@robertthotaling4303, thanks for the feedback l just got my new model Y standard range so I'm trying to save a buck but l hear you in this day and age l find it so stressful to drive a car in an urban environment. I think l add to the general stress if I'm being honest. l'm considering shelling out 12 grand for FSD, yeah.
@@Joe44944 Try it for 200 a month first. After 12.x is released.
My wife and I have done five trips, each over 5k miles out west in our Xs, along with six, 1500 mile trips to Florida. Greatest road trip car in history! Add in FSD, and I will never road trip in any other car. Never planned a route and never worried about charging.
Ditto for us. Model Y, then Model X. I will never go back to gas. Much less fatigue in a Tesla.
Stephen King commutes to Sarasota in his 2013 S...
It's so true, I literally look forward to taking road trips in my Tesla. And people have to remember, you're not spending that extra 30 minutes twiddling your thumbs. You're sitting in a restaurant enjoying a meal instead of trying to gobble some junk down while you're driving.
My 'all day' template is almost exactly like yours. Drive 2.5-3 hours, recharge for 20 minutes, bathroom, drink, etc. Drive 2.5-3 hours, recharge for 30 minutes with a decent sit down lunch somewhere (I always get BBQ--real eastern NC BBQ!). Drive 2.5-3 hours and do another 20 minute charge, Drive 2.5 - 3 hours and arrive. That's 10 - 12 hours of driving with a total of 70 minutes of stops. And the car is quiet, smooth, drives itself, has a great sound system for a book or whatever, and you just cruise along enjoying life.
Last summer I drove from Oregon to Alabama in my Model 3 using FSD all the way. I took 4 days, around the same time it would have taken in a gas car. My main problem was that the charge stops weren't always long enough for both food and bathroom breaks. My longest stop took around 30 minutes to charge close to 100%. The distance between Superchargers can be long in the Midwest. Previous trips into California had shorter stops with a large choice of Supercharger stops.
ABRP ... A Better Route Planner allows users to specify arrival SOC state of charge ... I plan my trips with ABRP, then port the trip over to Google Maps and then to my Tesla navigation system ... the stops are all included ... if the mood strikes me, I'll modify the trip en route if something unexpected occurs, like a pretty site to side trip to for a few extra minutes or so ... or just to try out a new supercharger location ... or preplanning expected congestion etc. ...
Elon explained the charging speed slowing. He said that it's similar to a car park, when it's empty, it's easy to find a parking spot, but as the car park fills up, you have to drive around and around until you find a spot, it's the same with the battery with Lithium Ion's trying to find a parking space
Just wondering if they can't shrink the carpark? I.O.W. sectionalise the battery pack to try and flatten the charging curve.
So. Charging means I have to circle Up to the Frunkin' roof???
I found out in my model 3 LR 2020 the sweet spot is 85 to 30 percent as charging times and cost regardless of 250 or 150 speeds.
On my 8 hour drive to disney about 500 miles, it takes me two stops 25 minutes a piece. In my gas car, it actually took me longer just because of the fatigue of having to drive long distance and needing to take a nap. Autopilot is a game changer for road trips.
Appreciate your knowledge and insightful advice. Sorry for the loss of your loved one.
Agreed with the review of the Tesla road trip experience. I love road trips in my Model Y.
One suggestion I would add to the trip planning is to allow a user selectable state of charge for arrival at destination. It always seems to plan on arriving with as low of a SOC as possible. If I'm going to a hotel/condo where that might not be convenient to charging, or where I want to be above 20% to allow sentry mode, it would be nice to be able to indicate that.
John, I think it's important to point out that the additional time to "fill up" with an EV on a road trip is offset by the time saved the rest of the year by not having to go to gas stations to fill up because you fill up at home. I've done the math. So, annually, a BEV saves time on the fill ups versus a gas car.
Umm, yes, assuming you don't live in an apartment. EV charging needs to solve the problem for the non-homeowner environment to adopt EVs as a truly viable solution.
@@john9663 What people I know who live in apartments where they can't charge do, is to use the Tesla Superchargers, or charge at work. Workplaces have ramped up the ability for workers with EVs to charge. They are either installing chargers in their parking lots or simply installing outdoor electrical outlets, and some employers have no problem with an employee running an extension cord to their EV. They are making accommodations so they don't lose good employees for the lack of EV charging.
Good points.@@health101DOTorg
100% True. I was initially an EV skeptic, the last step of my journey was to hire a Tesla for a long road trip I do 2-3 times a year.
Once I had that experience I knew I'd never by doing that trip ever again in an ICE vehicle. I now have my own Tesla Model 3 and we are likely to buy a Model Y to replace our remaining ICE vehcile.
Hey John. Great video. Thank you for breaking that down and for all the work you do to keep the community informed. Would have been great if you broke down the cost of your trip gas vs dc fast charging. Sorry to hear about your dad.
Youre inevitably going to sound whiny to ICE car drivers when you say driving the car would suck on a roadtrip but the relaxation of FSD on a roadtrip CANNOT be overstated. Its a conpletely different world. And when youre on a vacation trip its SO nice to be able to look arround to see interesting things instead of your eyes being glued to the lines and you miss half the sights on your trip.
I would never in a million years drive an ICE car on a roadtrip before my Tesla
^^ THIS. (and free AutoPilot is good enough, don't need expensive FSD for highways.)
AP letting me relax a bit and enjoy the scenery (and car company), while just maintaining situational awareness, instead of constant "white line fever" gripping the wheel.. SO much better.
And, w/ premium connectivity and satellite photo maps, I can enjoy & understand scenery & landscapes FAR around me, not just visible from the road! POIs, interesting geographic features, etc... we found a cool ghost town silver mine once on a roadtrip, seeing cool colors on the map (mineral rocks), and found the POI. And clicking it gave me website, google reviews, photos , hours..!
It helps also driving, huge nav screen w/ google POIs/landmarks helps me reliably find where i want to go, not just need to go... instead of trying to peek at tiny phone...
just wish I could have my saved google placemarks appear onscreen too, that would be awesome personal-itinerary mapping!
Other gas cars may have some lane-keeping features like AP, and they may have maps, but they STINK compared to Teslas... even Android Auto/Carplay, was horrible.
Tied to my (1yr old) phone, it was SLOW , lost lots of features vs native google maps (nearly all POIs), and.. overheated my phone and crashed it!
I DO wish that tesla's GPS cached map data better, so it works better (including route/charge planning) when you lose LTE connection in remote spots...
thanks dr
Thank you for going through these. I like your ideas but at least out West and I'm sure many other parts of the country there is more than 30 miles between Chargers sometimes it's 60 or 80. So if you go to 20% and you want to make it to the next charger and it's 40 miles away you're not going to make it. The other big problem for me on the West Coast is their are not very many Chargers where you can use the bathroom and get something to eat. A lot of the early Chargers were just put in a parking lot quite often at a hotel and the hotel does not want people just walking off the street to use their bathroom and there's also nothing to eat.
Our nearest Tesla charger is 110 miles away off of the Manitoulin Island. Most of the time our model 3 does very well. In winter, with snowy roads, travelling to Little Current and back is a challenge but has always been successful. We are very happy with our car.
I’ve got 140,000 miles on my ‘18 M3 just got back from a round trip from Wisconsin to Denver towed a 5x8 U-Haul one way. Came into some chargers at less than 0% no biggie. I know my car and have over 100k on FSD never going back.
Sort of agree with your premise of road trip times, however, my MY-LR KWH charging level begins to drop off precipitously, and drops to under 150 KWH at only 20% SOC. I like the car but charging times are not quick stops, even using the low battery pack approach to charging.
Good video Dr know it all
I always enjoy your show. I watch most of them.
I’m sorry to hear about your dad. My dad is in his mid 80’s and quite frail. I can empathize. 😕
John, fyi l watch most of your videos really appreciate how much you educate myself and l guess many other non English speaking natives like myself. It's a whole bunch of intelligent interesting, l think also honest information, cheers!
The day after I got my ModelY I went on a 2000 mile road trip. Highly enjoyable!
My only complaint about navigating to a supercharger is that it often wants to send me to a slower charger. I found using a supercharger map and charting my own course works better for me. I navigate to my selected charger and wait until the destination charge is at 15%.
10 percent battery is a good buffer but we can feel comfortable with 5 percent we don't superchage over 80 percent except at home to start the trip
I have a model 3 we have for 5 and a half years and done multiple trips from DE to FL with no problems
We charge on 110 at our condo and don't have to supercharge after arriving
Spend the winter here
Agree with your charger summary of how to charge
The computer really does all the work but we are not in a big rush
Also easy driving with autopilot
I’d like to be able to switch to m/kw on the trip meter, it’s more the way I think. We pay by kw..
I’m always trying to covnvert from watts per mile.
I'm planning my longest road trip (Alexandria VA to Myrtle Beach SC). I usually like to plan one stop around lunch time and make it a long stop. It would be nice if the planner would allow this requirement to be set.
You have to plan a little trip like that? Sounds rediculous. I do these things between getting up & breakfast.
No, he doesn't have to plan it at all. The 'planner' does it--you tell it where you're going like any GPS and it simply tells you where to stop to charge.@@christophresmerowski1824
Way to go John! Great video. We have a LR model Y and frequently travel 660 miles from FL to TN with zero problems charging. While charging we use the restroom, walk our dog and get something to eat. On average it takes about 20 minutes and costs $20. Easy and economical.
Sorry about your father.
You’re dog people, that explains it smh
Curious. When i road trip with my F-150 with 27 gal tank, i make at most one stop for gas. Then separate bathroom and food stops. Why would you force yourself to do all three when you have a gas vehicle?
I bought FSD but I don't use it much even on the highway. The necessity of having to hold the steering wheel just so sucks because I often can't reposition my hands to the bottom of the wheel without the nag turning on. So I usually drive with just cruise control on so I can steer while resting my hands at the bottom of the wheel. So much more comfortable than having to constantly tug at the wheel or have my hands placed at 9 and 3 so the natural weight of my hands keeps the nag away.
Too much babysitting involved.
Once Tesla drops the steering wheel nag I will probably use FSD all the time.
You should do more outside, staring at the camera is a little old fashioned 👍🏻
He's good, he's out there all day waiting at those overcrowded, malfunctioning Superchargers.
@@christophresmerowski1824 I have a Tesla, I have never seen one malfunction or had to wait.
One of the pleasant aspects of road tripping in an EV is visiting towns that you would otherwise bypass. It is an interesting break for the driver and passengers and can generate income for the town. Win-win.
Great suggestion with the departure time suggestion, my work around for this is
“Hey Siri, set a timer for 25 mins”
Yup. We did a 650+mi roadtrip in one day, 12hrs driving, and... I felt MORErelaxed & less-fatigued on arrival that evening, than a FOUR hour previous gas car drive, let alone 8hrs ICE trip.
Charge stops do help a lot (some sightseeing stops too), enforcing rest/stretch breaks, but AutoPilot is the biggest fatigue reduction factor! Don't have to hold the wheel tightly, attention doesn't have to be constantly 100% focussed on road and lanes, you can relax a bit and maintain "supervisory" situational awareness, vs constant tactical awareness.
Some ICE cars now do have pretty good lanekeeping features, so it's no longer strictly Tesla AutoPilot, but... seems to work better for me (as long as no phantom braking, I still have radar, helps.)
The GREAT google satmap on Tesla helps a ton as well- all of google maps POIs, sat photos, etc...
Oh, and supercharging for me, is still 30-50% cheaper than gas car trips. Not including FREE destination charging at hotels etc! (I saved $100+ charging free in Death Valley... vs $9/gal gas!)
Remote spots like national parks or rural destinations, ARE bit more challenging and require more careful pre-planning. But city-city roadtrips, where you know charging is available on arrival, as you say, it's dead simple- follow the car nav.
PS: corrections for video... the CAR nav shows the supercharger open stall count and status... and routes you... and bills to the CAR... NOT the APP.
And, for highways, free standard AutoPilot is good enough and mostly safer than crazy humans... no need for $$ FSD on highways. (only exception I've seen, is... switching me into left-turn lanes/exits, instead of staying straight, eek!)
I agree. If the ui said a time then I wouldn’t have to do the math.
Constructively as I can, the point about getting slower charging rates when starting below five percent somewhat contradicts the previous about planning to discharge to five percent in Tesla’s routing software. Also, iOS and Android phones have onboard clock apps that include timers. (I take my smartphone with me as the iPay and Google Pay options are more convenient when they are available - IMO.)
I only do single stop road trips to my son's house in Northern VA. My 2019 MX even at a 250Kw charger quickly drops from about 105 Kw/hr at 20% to 65-70 Kw/hr at around 60%. Charging from 20% to 80% is a good 40 minutes for me. That's okay for a single stop but too long for a 3 stop trip. 98% of my charging is done at home so no big deal.
I would like the charging page to show miles and % so I do not switch back and forth.
I’ve seen two road-trip videos where the trippers could not charge at the selected station due to power outages in the area. Also, on my recent 4000 mile roadtrip, there were a couple of times where all businesses near the chargers were closed due to the lateness of the hour. Finally, I’m not sure that all Tesla charging stations are 24x7. Regardless, I never had a problem finding a charger and charging sufficiently to reach the next.
Each year I usually take a road trip from San Diego to Sea Ranch (just over 600 miles one way). It usually takes about 30 minutes longer in our Model Y than it did in our Pilot. The drive is far more enjoyable in the Model Y. I use Autopilot for the majority of the freeway driving (reduces fatigue, allows me to pay more attention to other vehicles, and be safer when I eat a snack or have a drink). When we stop to change we are able to leave the climate control on so we return to a car that is 70 degrees instead of 110+ degrees. Most of our charging stops we have to wait no more than 5 minutes for charging to complete after everyone has gone to the bathroom and gotten a snack. Allows me to have a bit of a rest instead of rushing to get back on the road.
Man I just got a Tesla and missed my ferry because a 37kw super charger fail! My first ev road trip! 😂
Yeah Sir
Condolences, John.
ABRP does much of what you're asking for from Tesla's built-in route p[anner. I use ABRP to lay out the route, then set Tesla nav to follow it where possible and sensible. I've done this for routes of 2,000 to 7,500 mi.
Why is A Better Route Planner better?
@@robertwhite3503 ABRP lets you set a minimum destination arrival charge and it estimates ETA and charge times. Not as accurate as real-time Tesla info while charging but it gives a good idea of about how long you'll need to charge to get the next destination. Estimates include traffic, wind, rain, hills, etc and are fairly accurate if your car's profile is correct (works with many EVs so have to set this). It can connect to a Tesla to get the SOC and other info, and can provide turn-by turn map and audio guidance (I don't use this as the Tesla nav is better integrated).
@@johnhinshaw2835 Thank you
Hows your battery holding up after all that super charging?
Had a friend drive from St Louis to Wichita and her engine in her 2013 Highlander gave up the ghost. She replaced it at a cost of $9000 last Christmas. My brother in law's Town and Country's transmission went out with 80,000 miles and the dealer wanted $8,200. These are bread and butter engines and transmissions and they are almost cost parity of a Tesla battery pack.
Better yet car should text / notify you alert you when charge is done. Even way more life management. Calendars etc.
Mine already does that. It texts me when there's about 5 minutes to go, then when it's done, so that you don't get into the idle time charges.
I'm getting ready to go just north of Denver to Phoenix the Tesla trip planner is estimating 16h10m, google is saying 13h15m. + 3 hours is the difference from a hard day to 2 days (and a hotel stay) I can't quite eat that delta.
Google does not count time off the direct route. Can you drive the speed limit without adding extra miles and stopped time?
My condolences ❤. We appreciate your work. Looking forward to your interview with Elon.
I've noticed since I bought my Tesla with Full Self Driving that it's extremely common for people to cross into my lane or come dangerously close to doing so. So either humanity just started doing this or the fact that I have a robot chauffer allows me to notice things that I missed before. So FSD doesn't have to be a better driver than a human to make the car much safer in conjunction with a driver that's paying attention than the driver without the system.
Everything you said made me think ice cars is the future. I travel a lot and even a 5minute gas fillup feels too much. I had a mini cooper ev a while and my days were 2.5 hours longer :/
I don't own a Tesla but i have rented several times to do about 550 mile road trips in Spain. Next month doing 1400 miles round trip.!!! I know that they charge faster from 10% but say you get to the charger with 20% isn't it about the same since you are starting with a higher percentage? Would love to see this done as an experiment. Maybe Out of Spec has already done this?
The time saving is from your previous charge. You would not have had to put that last 10 to 15% in, and that would have been at a much lower rate.
workaround: time to charge = 30 minutes ... "Hey Siri, set timer for 25 minutes." ... end of problem ...
In the UK there are 2x rapid chargers than gas pumps, I'm sure you will catch up soon.
In the UK we are currently installing 1,400 + chargers per 30 days
I only have to visit a diesel pump once every 550 miles, and even then it's only for 4 minutes at most.
@@brendanpells912 And how often do you drive 550 miles with out a break for food or bathroom break ?
I wouldnt want too, so whilst I grab a coffee, something to eat and visit the bathroom, my car charges up, it takes just 15 mins to get to 80% which is enough for 220 miles at 80-90 mph speeds.
Recently a YTuber did a 10hr drive in his Tesla and only took 25 mins longer than his ICE car, but his ICE car he had to eat and drink on the move.
So I doubt you drive 550 miles without a break, especially if you drive with your partner and children
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@@brendanpells912 What is the cost for that 550 mile fill up with your diesel? With my Model Y I used to pay about $15 for the 1st and last fill up, then the one on the road would cost me $30 at a Tesla supercharger. I say used to pay $15 since I recently added Tesla solar panels and a battery to my home so now I have no cost electricity. Paid for in cash with profits from an Apple investment, I will not sell my Tesla stock for 10 years (except for a CyberTruck that is)
Are you one of those ICE vehicle drivers that queue up for 20 minutes to fill up at COSTO to save $10 out of the $100 per tankful?
@@stevehayward1854 It means I can fill it up and not have to go to a filling station for a month.
And these things are powered by environment polluting Diesel generators hidden behind bushes, LOL
20K miles of roadtrip experience in my Y and deeply disagree. We stopped taking it on roadtrips and now use a minivan and now in bliss!
I have a Volvo xc 40 recharge. I can't wait until supercharger are open to everyone. Which I hear may be later next month. I'm in my 60s so we need stops every few hours. I love my Volvo.
I have road tripped Boston to SW Florida multiple times. Doing it in an EV is much more enjoyable than gas. I won’t do long road tripping in a non-Tesla until their superchargers are open to my model. Other chargers are much too risky.
Is regularly running your car battery below %20 bad for the longevity of the battery ? From what I understand we should do it sometimes same as charging to %100 so the car system can recalibrate. My understanding is the Goldilocks. Zone is 80-20 % for ultimate battery health. This would apply to so some types of batteries but not all.
I went last summer 3000km return trip first time no issue with charging one of the spots did have one stall down. I got a spot as soon as I pulled in everytime. No need to charge all the way just follow direction on the car to charge as indicated. I did often let it go a bit longer just for extra safety. Alert to phone when at 5 or ten minute mark would be a nice option or reminder. If when your away from the vehicle. This could be an easy setting in the app. Tesla would know when you’re away from the car.
You are correct, 20 to 80 is best for the NMC battery LFP Can go to 100%. However, it is also how long it stays at that state. So if you arrive at the station at 5% immediately plug in. You're doing very little damage to the battery as you've charged it back up to 20 in no time. The same goes for charging to 100%. I do it right before I leave on my trip if I actually need 100%. Temperature is also important for longevity batteries like to be fast charged and discharged at about the temperature humans like. Tesla take care of most of this for you. I might charge the car to 80% when the car is warm from driving before going to the hotel if it doesn't have a destination charger and then leave in the morning when it's cold.
Like your Ideas but can't the vehicle send you a message to say that your charging session is about to end or ends in 5 min?
It gives details when it’s ending better than dumb gas pump no app to let you know it’s done so you just stand there waiting Old fashion! Lol!
Agreed also I would like the green battery bar to change color to amber at like 15% or 10% instead of the current 20%. Owning an EV for years now when I go for a walk I can smell ice cars driving by something I haven't experienced since I was a child. It's like when I quit smoking for years and you meet up with a smoker it hits you in the face.
Ask kids what they think of Carboni stink... Adults have no idea.
Just a note here:
If you have not gone on road trips your Tesla will be really off on its estimates of how far you can go. The first road trip I took in my HW4 2023 model Y, it was constantly overestimating how much charge I would have left at the next supercharger.... often it was 10% to 12% off.
As I put more miles on the car it got better and better at estimating but still was off by 5%.
So be cautious and whenever the car says that you've put enough juice in to get to the next charger, with at least 10% remaining, don't believe it. Add an extra 10% more charge into your car until it says you will arrive at the next station with at least 20%...... you will be glad you did!
My first Tesla was a 2013 MS. Back in the day Tesla didn't do route planning. I would start charging and look at where my next charging session would likely be. I set my display to show distance, not % charge. I usually charged till my estimated charge was 50-70 miles more than the actual distance. As I drove I just compared my estimated charge distance to the actual remaining distance. If I was burning too much energy at 75mph, I would just slow down to 70 or 65. On long trips I still leave the display as distance though I haven't had to slow down to make it to the next charger in years.
Speed makes a very large difference. Most of us drive a few miles over the speed limit. When I drive the speed limit or 5 miles under the speed limit, I consistently get better range than the Tesla estimates. If you're ever a little worried about making it, just slow down. Three other things you don't have control of but you to take into consideration are headwinds cold weather and elevation change.
I'm okay with 150kW chargers....if I don't need to share the power with another vehicle.
Of course it's so much better than to wait in line for gas ... while you're having many relaxing hours at those overcrowded malfunctioning chargers?
something also not discussed is the cost saving so 20 minutes but let's say it saves you 20 bucks I think I would be more than willing to sacrifice 20 min for 20 bucks
Also the fact that allot of people on trip do stop, they don't go on uncomfortable marathons just to get from A to B across a state.
It's also a healthier routine this way and, unlike with a gas car, you don't have to be standing there by the pump waiting for it to finish so u can pay and go, the routine is different, you get to walk around and stretch, grab lunch, or even watch a cat video with a slice of pizza for 15 minutes or so.
It's hard to sometimes convey this to those unfamiliar with how this changes the convenience and health dynamics of long road trips using an EV, but when people do it the concept clicks pretty quickly.
I would never want to road trip in a gas car again if I can help it, it's just so much nicer in an EV.
What was the cost of each stop? If it is 65% or less of buying gas, this would assuage an extra 25 to 30 minutes of trip time for a lot of people interested in switching to a Tesla.
I figure 10 to 12 cents a mile supercharging and 2.5 cents at home. I do not know what gas would cost.
3:30) "crazy human drivers?" In February, driving South on I-95 means ya gotta watch out for manic (really Frunkin' old) NooYawkus, "gotta get to Florida! WAAAA!"
You are spot on. I have owned my Tesla for 3 years. I not only would never go back to an ICE car but rather enjoy actually taking la title longer to refuel from a Supercharging network which alloys me to be more productive then driving an ICE car. Also far less hassle to refuel when you do not have to smell cancer causing gas fumes.
There are 2 kinds of people when arguing about FSD. Those with out Fsd and thoes with Fsd beta. The minute someone attempts to give you their “opinion” about FSD who doesn’t have it instantly you realize they don’t know what the hell they’re even talking about. Akin to hearing someone talk about how useless home 💡 electricity is without ever having it. And you can stop them midsentence and say hey man, I actually have this and I use it every day and they’ll still ramble on based off some complete bullshit they imagined or what the latest TikTok said about it. Like “is that right bud ?” K have fun driving in bumper-to-bumper traffic , also watch out for those drivers that are texting and driving… because I think that’s probably a lot more common than some self driving car that went “out of control”.
I have a Lexus and a Tesla. I *always* take the Tesla on long trips. Never the Lexus.
I also only drive the Tesla around town. The Lexus is a 2016 with only 12k miles on it, because I bought the Tesla in 2018.
Why do you keep the Lexus?
@@brendanpells912 My son's car is old and unreliable, but he can't afford a new one. He lives next door, so borrows it a lot. He borrows the Tesla more than the Lexus, however. Also, we do need two cars occasionally. I'm waiting for a good deal on the new Model 3, and maybe I'd trade the Lexus in for it.
Its amazing how people with ice vehicles make fun of me having to stop more often to charge v them filling up with gas
I guess they love the smell of gas and oil on their stops as they pay 350 a gallon to the oil company
I always tell people what they ask me about buying other EVS that once they have the next connection and supercharging at work. Shane, maybe otherwise it's not comparing the same thing. Completely different planet
but could you do that long of a trip with a new Model 3 rear wheel drive car? You're only gonna be charging your car up to 80%, even with the LFP battery because the last 20% takes too long to wait for. that comes to only 218 miles in ideal conditions and with the ugly aero covers. more realistically around 190 miles on a charge, I would guess, e.g. at night in the rain during the cold weather.
2020 Model Y LR and I'm super charging every 100-120 miles on road trips. Battery at 50,000 miles and is charged at level 2 charging 99% of the time. From 100% to 0% I'm at 215 mile range but Tesla says my battery is fine 😂😂😂
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On the highway, even the basic autopilot is great.
I’m struggling with basic autopilot on highways, because every time I want to pass and I put on my turn signal, autopilot drops out and the car goes into regen. If memory serves, my M3LR used to change lanes and cruise control maintained my overtake speed during the pass then accelerated back to what I had my speed set for as I moved back to the right lane. Do I have some settings wrong?
@@stevewaclo167 Did you activate the setting that allows you to enable autopilot with a single press of the stalk? If you keep the two press mode then changing lanes only disables lane centering and not traffic aware cruise control.
@@jamesdaleo3643 Thanks James. That may be the solution.
Set a timer with Siri.
well not sure how waiting hours and even days like a couple weeks ago in the cold sitting in a tesla is better than my 5 min fill ups ,, strange sense of '' better ''' i guess ,, saw one guy on the news was sitting in his tesla 24 hrs with like 2% battery plugged into a supercharger and it would not even take a charge due to the cold ,,, yet he was paying like 50 bucks a day as it was still drawing 8 kw/h trying to heat the batt and it never did to that point
Are you talking about when there was a group of 250KW superchargers with the wrong coolant for the temperature? The cars were okay, but the chargers were not.
@@johnd01nope,,, think it was in chicago a couple weeks ago when it was so cold the entire city of tesla could not charge ,, ppl where stuck in their cars for days at superchargers paying and the cars would not charge faster then like 7 kwh and that only ran the heat and gave nothing to the battery
@@MAGApepe That is it. Only the 250 KW chargers were affected. Other chargers do not have coolant loops to keep the cables from melting. They did not have enough antifreeze in the coolant for that temperature.
It is like my California car had windshield washer fluid that froze on the windshield when I made a road trip to Idaho last month and visited a town over 6000 feet high. My daughter told me to buy local windshield washer fluid because it is good to -34 F.
Charging stations become the 1950s equivalent of a drive-in sock-hop burger joint like on "Happy Days." Some years ago the US transportation system investigated autonomous vehicle control on the nations highways and deemed it too costly to require vehicle manufacturers to implement and for the government to build the interstate structure necessary to support a GPS type location determination network and crash avoidance systems. Enter Tesla EVs with (almost) FSD. EVs are still too expensive overall-price, FSD, upgrades, add-ons, insurance, battery longevity, and replacement costs. Practically need to be a millionaire to afford one, let alone two or more in an inflated society 🤔
Prof John - maybe you are misled by the gas guzzlers enabled by super cheap gas prices in USA . My wife has Stellantis van that does 60+ mpg , tank range is 792 miles with our nearest Tesla charger 75 mins away vs 2 minutes to nearest gas station.
With taxes and no fracking a litre of gas here costs what a gallon costs in USA, 🇺🇸citizens are lucky fracking allowed unlike European.
Energy Transition will be longer and more complicated than some uncritical folks imply (in my opinion!)
A seldom mentioned joy is the mapping out of charging stops ahead of time, to maximize the efficiency of charging between 5% and 75%, using only V3 (250 kW) Superchargers. It’s like putting together an interesting puzzle.
Tell Elon it's time for him to offer his believers 'Supercharge-while-driving' ... like the old fashioned US Airforce has.
looks like 1/3 of the time sitting charging,,, that doesnt seem better in my books
I'd rather have a gas car than a Tesla road trip. But I'd rather have a Tesla to road trip in than a gas car to road trip in. I'd also rather be healthy for a day than sick for a year.
Breathing the fumes while you fill up a gas car is not good. That stuff is toxic.
When Tesla has nerd fans like you, all they need to do is listen! And it seems they do! Well done doctor. And well done Tesla. Love you guys ❤️👏👏👏💕
Stop racing through the country. Stop on the way a " smell the flowers" 400 miles is 6-7 hours. Good time to take a break..... or stay over night.
No no no you can’t do this in an EV. Takes 300 hours just to go 500 miles. 😜
Mr thinks-he-knows-it-all, thinks he knows it all.
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Being a non-tesla owner, I am wondering how much supercharging actually costs on a trip and how it compares to an ice vehicle. Also, I am going to be installing a home charger separated from my house eventually. Thinking about buying a used MY LR vs new MY RWD for range, not sure I'm understanding whether this is better due to battery degradation. Thanks for your efforts
A general guideline is that fuel for a Carboni car costs 9 times as much as electricity for a Tesla.
1. No mention of the cost savings in a Tesla versus a gas car.
2. I often do 1,000-miles per day during a roadtrip in my MY. How? Autopilot + FSD allows me to enjoy the landscape.