Game Improvement Irons Vs A Players Iron | TrottieGolf
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- Let's talk the TaylorMade Stealth 2022 Iron and look at who this model is really aimed at.
Do you struggle with distance on your irons?
Do you need more height from your irons?
Do you know what offset is and how it can help you?
All those key questions are answered in this video and the Game improvement iron is explained in full detail so you're better equipped to make an equipment choice and get a club fitting.
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Another top class video from Trottie 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🧅🧅🧅
Another awesome video! Trottie always hooking us up with the knowledge we need, I can’t wait for next season. I think I need some new irons next year too…
what you gain in one direction you lose in another ( gaining distance lose spin)
I was playing Srixon ZX5'S, but switched to the TaylorMade P7mcs 5-Pw and P770 4 iron 1 degree weak. I love them. No more hot flyers and more spin!!!
I play Ping Eye 2 plus no plus BECU 2-SW. Forever clubs.
Buying a used set of Tietliest T300's to use as an alternate. Love the Cleveland Launcher Halos and Wilson Staff GI irons also.
Great options out there for us duffers that work too much, don't play as much as we want.
Cheers
Love my P7MB and I pray TM continues to make them.
Great video Trottie great advice, looking forward to my fitting on the 20th, do I upgrade from A bag full of Stealth 2 irons and woods and go to QI clubs or P790, exciting times ahead.
I think I'll like my stealth irons once I finally get the angles perfected. I think I'll end up 2 degrees weak. I've had trouble generating spin and holding greens. Also my gapping was 20 yards.
That's an interesting video. I play TM Rocketballz and as you'll remember they have lots of offset and 85g R shafts. Since I've been using a Trackman range I noticed I have around 114mph ball speed with my 6 iron and I can either lose it right of target or hook 'em left. I must need less off set and heavier shafts 🤔
Just started golfing 5 months ago, been having some good fun, hoping to eventually get some stealth irons.
I would look into Takomo, especially the 101. Absolutely fantastic irons
Great video. Still sad, that TM is not bringing back a new P760. Still the perfect "players iron with help" there was......
Put my Blades away ,am 66 and Gaming Mizuno JPX 921 Hot Metal with 95 gram recoil Graphite regular Flex shafts ,My first reg Flex love them !
You can stop the ball with spin or with descent angle. My stealth provides enough height to stop on green with low spin. Stealth is awesome!!!
Trottie, this made me think of Trent from the Foreplay pod. Which made me think, I’d kill for you and him to find a time to do a video series like you did with Ben Baller. But if a club fitting/tune-up and little bit of game improvement.
I thought I would go for the g430 game improvement irons, but when I did my fitting, I didn't like them very much. I also tried the i525, which felt very chunky as well. I ended going with the i230s with the Project-x reg sharts and I really, really like them! I'm hitting them progressively better and better, and am very satisfied with my choice. With traditional lofts I don't get a ton of distance (150 max carry with a 7 iron), but the dispersion is much better and I get a nice high ball flight, which is great. I am a 21.1 HCP right now and improving quickly. I don't think "players irons" are just for scratch players.
I had the same experience…I have had the G425s, i525s, JPX923s, JPX 921 SEL, T200/T300 all in the last 3 yrs and the Ping i230s are my all time favorite. 😂
Like the stealth driver and 770’s.
Love your video Trottie.
I would learn so much from you in just 10 minutes. Im ready to pull the trigger on some new Irons. I am a 13 but progressing fast to my goal of single digits by the end of the year. I have Good speed and consistent contact. I get more distance than I want with my Rogue st max OS and they drive me crazy going long and left then I back off them and miss right. I dont want them to go like that I want consistent yardages. I really want to play a forged iron and shape a little more with the 7-PW but wouldnt mind a bit of help with the longer irons. I have. A 4 hybrid. What do you recommend? I want that buttery feel!
I recommend (and you won't wanna hear this), add the 4 hyb ASAP height is a beautiful thing for younger PLYR's, it'll change your approach life.
Flatten the irons you have by .5* , the right miss concerns me and it sounds like you have a two way miss so it's most likely path. Just take em .5* flatter.
Then hold on the purchase. Do it in the off season. You wanna get to single digits, you can easily do that with course management and getting tighter around the greens & adding that 4 hyb.
Do an overhaul in the winter and get your forged set, PLUS it gives you time to save so you can get exactly what you want.
@@trottiegolf that’s a good point. I do hit my 4 hybrid well and I have pretty consistent contact. My right miss is when I don’t commit to the shot for fear of going long left but I agree with you. My biggest weakness is that 100-50 yard attack. I need to work on that most of all. Thanks for the advice.
I have the Sim 2 Max irons. I'm gonna game them for years until I feel like I can get fitted for some player irons.
I started getting more consistent with my irons, I used to blade and shank my shots, now I’m hitting high straight shots, sometimes drawing the golf ball, but I lost quite a bit of distance than before, but hitting the ball a lot better. Would the P790’s work for me if I’m not really missing badly on the face of the club like before?
I’m currently playing the Ping G400 irons.
Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
Yes they are an option but if you're also striking it consistently you should at least try the 770 too
I got fitted for game improvement but feel like they may help me and not make me improve my swing by being too forgiving and making bad shots half good ?
It’s a lot of coin and I’m interested in your opinion as you won’t be directly profiting like the shop guy.
Remember you're the boss of your own golf game, so any final decisions are on you. I like to see height (dependent on where you play, links v inland, US v Europe) so game improvement helps for that. I like to see high launching long irons, usually game improvement & I like to see folks have fun, again game improvement.
With all that said, some folks just want blades, they like the feel, it's important to them, they want to shape shots, they feel like they get better distance control.
All totally fine and I'd work with that or a combo set and explain the positives and negatives of both sets.
For me though, it's the PLYR's set, I will be a guiding light but if you want blades and you can't see the benefit of game improvement then (from experience) that is most likely the way to go.
Would a players distance iron (i.e. p790, i525, t200, etc) be next in line when looking to get out of game improvements?
Yes it's a progression from the Stealth
My biggest concern with game improvement clubs that have low spin high launch is playing in wind. I play in an area where it's usually fairly windy most of the year. I feel like a lower trajectory with higher spin to stop on the greens would be the way to go. Is that accurate? I normally play cb or mb type of clubs and have been hesitant to use a more "game improvement" for the forgiveness and longer distance numbers.
I think if you’re looking for control and shape and at that level then MC type irons would be the way to lean
Or of course go spinny ball and 770
@@trottiegolf thanks! I appreciate the reply.
What do you guys think about the sim2 max? Found a demo set for 500.00 5-pw-aw
If you hit your numbers for your game then yea …. I like it
What kind irons for someone who has plenty of speed but isn’t consistently hitting middle of the face?
depends on your level but 770 or 790 are prolly the play
What if we’re a high handicapper but want to learn to work the ball?
Plenty of reps and alignment sticks / build face awareness understanding. No reason you can't become a good player
A 7 iron with 4900 rpm... I'm good
Weird range... Who's in the truck?!
don't game improvement irons have stronger lofts? if so that would help explain the extra 30 yards in your 7-iron, yes?
Check out a recent test on the 2nd Swing Channel comparing a bunch of irons at the same loft. Loft is only one variable in the equation.
@@lawbinson yes, but it's a big variable
Loft is #1, you can also increase ball speed with an iron with a high COR (thin) face that flexes a bit like a driver or fairway wood. The flex face offers more ball speed to higher swing players than it does lower swing but if you can give a player 3-4 mph more ball speed just from face design and then another 4 with loft those all add up and make a big difference for the average player
Loft and CG location, keep in mind launch characteristics..... meaning it's not always loft that gives you yardage
If I wasn’t in love with my Mizuno equipment, Trottie alone would have me in Taylor Made.
But always appreciate his knowledge and would love to see him in more playing challenges.
Even if it’s against rival ambassadors, I’d like to see him just playing 9 or 18 on his channel.
Put your ego aside and get help wherever you can, the game is hard enough as is especially if you can’t practice or play regularly. Very few players on Tour use straight blades for their entire set. If the best players in the world aren’t playing blades then why are you…oh that’s right, it’s your ego again.
I'll play Gi irons until I can get down to 5 handicap. I used to play blades growing up in the 70's and 80's.
Now I love the confidence I get from GI irons and modern huge 460cc drivers, I have a Sim Max. Replaced my Ti Bubble 2.
Currently game 2-SW Ping Eye 2 plus no plus BECU irons and am buying Titleist T300 set used on Friday ($400), excellent condition, amt red shafts/ stiff. These are an alternate to my Ping's which are my forever clubs.
Love GI and stress free Golf ⛳.
I'm a 5 handicap and i gladly play p790s. Its a hard game and i like winning. I'm not going to be shaping it both ways. I have a stock draw that i can attack most flags with and i putt well. You are right about ego. I got a buddy thats the same level as me but he plays pure blades. Unless he is striping it he struggles.
I'm high handicap and can hit any brand/type iron and can shape them left, right and straight, going to tm mb very soon as I hate the sudden flying cavity irons off the back. Much rather be short from mishit mb and then chip close 👌👍 my making a living doesn't require what the pros have to do so I see why they play the irons they have.
disaster of differences in loft. the 7 is the same as the PMC 5. not tech, loft. descent angle blah blah blah. manufacturers are selling distance and that is accomplished by lower loft. hack ams no better off, actually worse.
7 irons rolling out 10+ yards lol
Play blades. Don't waste money on clubs that look like aliens lost some space ship parts.
@ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ👉 @Manolo_TeachesGolf Hi there just saw your reply.
Those of us who are starting out playing golf later in life disagree.
Well I’m not going total blade, thinking ZX5/7 or Wilson D9 Forged. Just gotta figure my flex for Modus tour 105.
@TeslaRocks ZX7 is the way to go. Get fitted. The shaft you use can make the difference between a super high ball flight, or a 20 foot roll out after landing on the green. I use the Modus 3 130 X in an older Z945. I lost a few yards but my dispersion is so much tighter. This is coming from a Taylormade TP MB set with KBS Tour 120 stiff.
@@gregchin2172 just got back into golf last year after not playing much for a long time.
So went the ZX5 route, I already told the wife she should have never let me play golf again.
I see future club purchases beyond the ZX5.
Got Nippon modus3 105 in stiff.
Never been fitted before and always adjusted to what I am swinging so to speak.
I got TM SLDR with KBS C Taper 90 Stiff on those.
Taylor Made Rac iron with True Temper 95 Regular on those.
If you can swing you can play anything.
I started getting more consistent with my irons, I used to blade and shank my shots, now I’m hitting high straight shots, sometimes drawing the golf ball, but I lost quite a bit of distance than before, but hitting the ball a lot better. Would the P790’s work for me if I’m not really missing badly on the face of the club like before?
I’m currently playing the Ping G400 irons.
Any advice would be appreciated, thanks!
Just hit a longer club. Distance is less important with irons than woods!