Army Promotion Board
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2020
- Are you attending a promotion board soon and actually don’t know what you are getting yourself into?
Are you wondering what to do if the chair is on it’s side?
Watch this video to find out the Do’s and Don’ts.
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Anyone Else here watching this after being given a three day notice by your chain of command that you are going to the board?
That was the purpose of posting this video dude. All enlisted trying to get their P status have TH-camd what a promotion board is. I thought I would give an inside look.
@@PapaPerk360 yup, same here.
@@xaviermartinez2502 good luck bro, have confidence, be current with modern army regulations and take care of your Soldiers.
Good luck 🍀. Be confident
Same
If you’re gonna make the Soldier wear his ASUs, then the board members should also be in ASU.
Either this is a formal procedure or not. Board members are supposed to be judging the Soldier, they should hold themselves to the same standard.
they should be holding themselves at a HIGHER standard and leading the way as LEADERS
I think his is a mock board
I’ve never seen a board member at the local unit level in anything other than BDU’s, ACU’s. Although I do agree with you.
I went to a promo board where one 1sgt was texting away on his phone and another was dipping and spitting in a cup the whole time. “No one is more professional than I” 🙄🙄🙄
@@atxking27 they’ll do that stuff to try to throw you off
I was promoted to E-5 for the simple reason that the Promotion Board met on a Monday morning and I was the only soldier who wasn't hung over.
Good times....
Sometimes that is enough
exceeding the standard rightthere
Al Pacino: HooO. AhhH!
Hahahahha good times
😂😂😂😂😂
I blame both the NCO and who ever his sponsor was. And I agree if the Soldier is in ASU's then the board needs to be in same uniform as well as sponsor
most of the boards are a week out notice, so theres no time to prepare
@@leocasi405 What?!? Sorry, this made my brain hurt. Piss Poor Planning results in Piss Poor Performance. A board is notified a week out So!!! Once your Soldier is in the realm of getting boarded start then. Hell, I had my PFC's studying for the boards. Prep the Soldiers beforehand and no issue.
were they really giving him marching commands while sitting?
@Leo Casi you should always have your dress uniform ready. You wear it what, maybe 3 times a year? If you can't afford dry cleaning 4 times a year then you need some finance classes.
@@joshjohnson8861some units wear it every Friday or every last Friday of the month.
I remember mine…walked in, was asked who my favorite NFL team was, I responded…then I was told to leave. Was promoted 2 months later lol.
LMAO LMAO LMAO
I knew a sgt Rasmussen in 4th id.
What team?
I’ve never understood why they ask arbitrary questions like “what is protection?” Or “what is a battle?” And expect you to know the word for word definition. How does memorizing definitions make you a good leader? Why not ask how they would handle specific situations with their soldiers, what their mentoring style is for their soldiers, ask them how they would handle given combat scenarios (combat arms), or what makes them feel that they are ready for the next rank? Get to know the individual. Anyone can memorize stuff. Not everyone is a good leader or NCO. Also, this poor kid was probably told the night before that he was going to the board, and had to throw his uniform together and had no time to study properly. His leadership clearly failed him (not properly preparing him for this) and the Army is failing itself by having arbitrary memorization as the standard for promotion.
Half of the impact of the questions is about how confident you give them. So even if you give an answer “incorrectly”, they judge you in how confident you were in your answer and it helps to be confident even if you do not get it completely right
@@lezoomer7324 that’s also a stupid way to judge who the leaders of the Army should be. Being a confident idiot is worse than humbly admitting you don’t know something.
Anyone can memorize stuff, yet they don’t. I don’t disagree that there are scenario questions that can be asked, but promotion boards ought to be a confirmation of what the NCO knows, not a test to see if he should be promoted. If he can’t answer questions of doctrine, if he can’t demonstrate he is a student of his profession, then he has no business being there. The saddest part of this whole clown show, is that this NCO will continue to promote and then emulate this exact same charade when he is a board member someday simply because he doesn’t know any better and he hasn’t seen a better way to do it. And this is why we keep seeing a perpetuation of the same stupid shit.
@@kurtsmith2699 sure. It just seems to me that if memorization must be a part of the board, have them memorize relevant information pertinent to their job. Not arbitrary definitions. Just my opinion.
@@NemeanIndustries I don’t disagree. It should be relevant and pertinent. There are better questions to ask than the definition of a “battle.” However, I also don’t think that that particular question should be off limits. It is the Army, after all, and in the Army we do battles.
This looks like a mock board. Maybe they’re trying their best to prepare him for the real thing. Which could really be helpful.
POV:You’re a board member at a promotion board.
Yes platoon sergeants and our first sergeant.
Got my hands clammy and sweaty just watching. I'm a PFC about to go to the soldier of the month board soon. I don't like formaly being put on the spot and critiqued. Let me prove my self doing my job and I'm calm cool and collected.
You got it hero! Be confident!
When I went to the E6 board almost 20 years ago, all three 1SG’s were playing with a mini basketball and hoop while the president of the board CSM starred dead into my eyes like he was gonna eat my soul. I passed lol. My PSG gave me a heads up the board was going to do dumb things to try to break my character and crumble under pressure. Honestly all the boards I attended were basically the same and all my boards I attended were while I was in the Infantry. Maybe we do things different lol. All except the Audie Murphy board! That board was next level! I didn’t even make it past my leaders book review!
Just be confident and look sharp and max your PT scores lol.
1) IAW AR 600-8-19, Board Members must be Senior NCOs. There should not be any SSG’s, especially if given voting rights.
2) The Board Members should be wearing ASU’s if the the Soldier/NCO attending the Promotion Board is in ASUs.
3) The Board Recorder in the back should not be on his phone slouching while a Promotion Board is being conducted. Professionalism should be upheld 24/7.
4) Is the Board President a 1SG? If so, that is a no-go IAW AR 600-8-19. E-8’s are not aloud to preside as Board Presidents. If Board Member is an E-9 or Officer then disregard this. Hard to hear.
What paragraph so i can blurt this out at a mock board when I see this bs
Yeah guy, this is a practice board. We did it all the time to get ready for SoM and promotion boards.
Clearly standards have dropped.
were they really giving him marching commands while sitting?
*allowed
How do they know what a good soldier he is by asking questions they don’t even know without looking at paperwork
These board members are weak, you don’t laugh at the SM. They should not be leading a board so unprofessional.
Yes, I thought the same thing.
This is what happens when it’s not CSM and 1SGs conducting the Board
The standard is held lower by unprofessional NCOs
I agree, but we al live the same NCO Creed from Cpl- CSM. These NCOs are just sitting in this rank with no leadership
I agree
Wrong they do this to make sure the soldiers hold their military bearing and don't crack under the pressure and stay professional
Sadly this is one of the worse Board reviews I've seen...
1:27 "Hey you. You're finally awake."
My 36 months were up a year after I made sergeant E-5. So I never did this. I however went before several soldier of the quarter or year boards. The questions were no surprise. How a female soldier wore her belt was not among them. Not impressed. I would like to hear questions on leadership, problem solving. How he would counsel someone with family problems. Get a feel for his military leadership ethos. What a disgrace this board is even as a mock board. This shit will not win wars. Find leaders. Men other men follow.
You had to fo this as an E4 before you were promoted to E5. They didn't just give you your stripes. I know because I did this as a SP4
This is clearly a mock board to prepare this guy (I assume he's already been to board before but hey, it's something to put on the training schedule) and other E-4's. Mock boards are better than nothing, even the Board members are getting some stick time. Personally, I think everyone could've done better ... I have to constantly remind myself that No One is Prefect Like Me!
Yeah critiquing irreverent bs like gig lines and creeds and army songs are exactly what should be prioritized over experience, competence, and time served.. So glad I finally took the red pill after 10 years of the dog and pony show they call the Army.
Got him with that sideways chair. Classic
First one to comment about it ! 😩 thanks for the great observation. Everyone else commenting are bent on what the board members are saying or wearing 🙄
We practiced every day for a week before heading to the board. The chair on its side was my hurdle. In one movement I flipped it upright and took a seat.
4:15. Look at the stickers on that water bottle. This guy’s deciding who gets promoted?
They’re treating it like a reduction board lol
Court martial hearing
Reduction board?
@@Hk121394 reduction board is the formal hearing of being reduced in rank
@isaiahtellez9640 so like a NJP? Or captains mast? Navy guy so army I'm not that familiar
Thanks for uploading! It was educational
Thanks man! I’ve come to the realization some of the stuff I see as an E-6 in today’s Army may be boring and redundant at times, but if I just put a small amount of it on camera, it will better serve future recruits and service members who want some insight on these sort of things.
Sweet baby jesus I dont miss going to the board. This was a good watch, however he was not prepared.
Nick not at all
Man I felt nervous for him just watching this 😂. I’ve only ever been to a Comp board 1 time in 5 years.
Bro, that notebook is so cool!
When I was boarded. I was told I was being boarded not as a test. But to let me know that I was ready and my leadership was confident that I was ready. I was asked questions. No trick questions. It was so the other NCOs and the BN CSM could see me. I passed. None of what you see here. These boards are totally bull shit.
That’s how it should be done
Somebody should PT Mr. Slouchy over there. He looks way to comfortable.
This is why im glad I went reserves, we don't do in person boards even for E7 and up
How do you get promoted? Time in grade/service?
@@andregreen8952 good knee pads.
Did your unit do “Remote Deployments” or clear rooms via “Zoom” ?
Same im national guards
@@FilamNation App based gig economy companies such as Uber do remote hiring and background checks . Look at how many of those hires turned out to be Rapists ? When I was active duty and met National Guard NCO’s, I can honestly say ALL of them were overweight . Fat . Lack of standards, poor examples to lower ranking soldiers. I’m a firm believer in uniformed standards .
The first five minutes were probably more appropriate for an E-5 promotion board, not E-6. Lots of time wasted on basic and advanced school-level 670-1 stuff. Should have taken only a minute or two to examine dress and appearance. All board member's behavior was unprofessional and at times, sarcastic. Board member on left's water bottle with all the flair on it probably not appropriate for a proceeding like this. These board members need to be re-trained or replaced.
The camera person made me feel like I was drunk
"did I say to turn the chair upright?"
If someone at the table has a picture of Michael Scott from The Office on their water bottle, dude you have to pass, too easy.
This was an awkward one.
This is only for active duty
The navy doesnt have promotion boards besides the chief's reindeer games. Its a test solely about your job and evals by your SNCO.
Mock Board or NCO of the Month/Quarter Board .
That uniform 😍
Would a non commissioned officer be one not commissioned by the government?
So a mercinary?
What are all the AR he mentioned to the solidier?
0:55 “I DONT KNOW WHAT WIERD BOOK THING IS ON THAT TABLE”
“BUT I WANT ONE”
A tactical Binder???
0:59 she shouldve been more proper and asked it by the book. It is not called branch, it is an RDI! Regimental Dinstinctive Insigna🤦
Guess who’s going to be a fuzzy now?
U know that place, good ole 16th
the 1st guy got grilled
Thing must have changed since my days. Why are the board members in a different uniform?
Why are the board members wearing combat but not their service uniforms?
Honestly, if this was an actual board, he wasn't ready. That's ok, but hopefully, this was just a mock board, and I'm sure 21st TSC squared him away.
I do believe this is a mock board
You can clearly tell people who never been to a mockboard b4
I hope this was a mock promotion board. And she was wrong! It is 1/8 of and inch!
This is cool and all, but the best part of the video was the meme bottle, by far.
Thanks bro! 😎
@@PapaPerk360 For sure. I need to get me a meme bottle hahaha.
Much of the speech is difficult to understand. And where is the finish?
sarge ret army my p broad was hard to back in the day 60 and rhe 70
Thank you for your service you old crusty bastard!
Should have asked what bathroom to use 😂, 😮
sarge ret army had pldc and leader ship academy ano and bno school fort lee va quart ermaster school
SICKNESS!
This is my company😂
Pretty sure this was a hidden camera.
Army Promotion boards seem like a joke to me,
Although this nco was not prepared, the board members were not professional.
That happens when they give them less than 12 hours to prepare. That whole leadership was a failure honestly.
Is he not supposed to make eye contact?
Pretty sure this is a mock.
Ah, the promotion board... Where an Article 15 you got 15 years ago as a Pvt E2 comes back to bite you in the ass and Army uses it as an excuse to not allow you to reenlist. See that way they can kick you to the curb before Uncle Sugar has to pay off on that 20-year pension. You could be an exceptional soldier, technician, manager, and leader but something a trivial as a counseling statement can trip you up a decade after the fact. I personally knew one guy that was 86'd from the Army after 16 years' service because of an Article 15 he got as a private. Thing is, the board chair was with the guy during the incident and they both got -15s for it.
Bro is that SSG or SFC Bidwell? The female?
Are they fair dinkum? Fidgeting and being weird I feel.
💪💪💪💪💪
Why is he talking at the poa
Sgt calcano was my old nco😂
What happened to him? Where’s he at?
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Was great but so wish there was subtitles
Jelliot Williams how do I add subtitles?
Send that joker to the house. He don't even know how females belts are supposed to be facing. Smh.
How humiliating to have to go beg someone for your next promotion.
The command running the board looks so out of regs that it's disgusting to me.
Did he pass?
Yeah they both got recommended, this was a mock board when covid popped off. The command gave a memorandum for record recommending promotable status.
Espionage isn’t new.
I was told only blacks where to be given step promotions. Specifically black women. Didn't believe it until i saw it many times over the years. Hopefully the air force has changed.
1st ictc Kaiserslautern Germany
This screams 51st trans ate up from the floor up leaders that didn’t know who to lead
So uh, did he do bad?
Yes
He’s what we call a Soup Sammich.
Yes lol he did not get his Promotable status.
SDwatson1979420 that’s a good question for his platoon sergeant who asked about the wear of a females belt.
Not gonna lie that was hard to watch 😅
Imagine recording it
Cant hear a damn thing
Why aren't anyone in the room wearing masks during the high COVID time?
Before the mask mandate
@@PapaPerk360 The date was 12 months ago. Germany didn't have masks in June 2020?
@@chasekramer5928 nope, not mandatory until september
@@PapaPerk360 Thank you.
@@chasekramer5928 you’re welcome Sergeant.
Dont fuck with . sinior chiff
Very unprofessional board members. Why put the chair on the ground like this? “No one is more professional that I” show this SGT how it’s done. It’s not a joke or time for board members to have a laugh. Do better!
Hmm... That chair trick caught my eye an enticed me to view the video. The same tactic was setup at my E-5 promotion board interview many moons ago back in the early 70's back during the Viet Nam era. Walking into the room, I thought "This is odd". Never the less, I made E-5 after only 26 months in service and only two months later than the minimum TIS requirement. My NCOIC at the time rated me as "Promote Immediately" on my last evaluation. Fortunately, my duties were solely dedicated to "National Security" and not prosecuting a war. But I did spend 16 months in the far western Aleutian Islands of Alaska ("Shemya Survivor"). I was later able to secure an early out after having served a total of 28 months, 12 days and 4 hours in service to Uncle Sam from a four year enlistment (USASA) thanks to a DoD RIF.
Scpo
Shoulda named this video "How Not to Conduct a Promotion Board" (not for educational purposes). This is a terrible example of board procedure. kinda embarrassing that someone would even post this on behalf of the Army and all board members in this board. Those Leaders were not setting a good example by not being in ASUs, and also seems very unorganized.
and they wonder why there are retention problems
Sound is poor.
Toxic
The soldiers act like jerks in every country… It is their nature. They enjoy teasing and torturing those of lower rank… Everything is some kind of power game for these as.. hol…
Can't hear any of this!!and completely unprofessional!!all of them!!
Is this to show how not to conduct a board? Unprofessional
Here is an informative video before attending a board, and good luck! th-cam.com/video/6ycDm2QGzG0/w-d-xo.html
Yo DO NOT watch this before your board! This is a horror show.
Weak board. Must be a Garrison Board.
Salute without a cover ? Un-professional
It’s Army. Not Marines. Different standards
@@xraydoge5430 no kidding
Bullies
This is pathetic
Lmao these NCO’s need to counsel themselves.
This audio sucks
What a clown show.
I’ve never seen something so poorly executed or administered in my life either as Royal Marine or as a Probation service ! If your going to pick up a man for the state of his uniform then at least be in the same rig ! The venue is a disgrace for a promotion board , I wouldn’t follow any of the board members into a brewery giving out free beer!