DODGE PROBLEMS! 68RFE FIXED at FIREPUNK! WEIGHT vs MPG Cummins 6.7
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Rough morning, but the end result was worth it. I weight the Cummins and the 50ft trailer and cover the MPG we are getting out of this Deleted and tuned 6.7 Cummins powered 2017 Dodge Ram 3500HD with the 68RFE transmission.
Wow! SRC and Firepunk all in one video. I've died and gone to TH-cam heaven!
Honestly you couldn't have taken that Dodge to a better place. AWESOME!
Honest transmission guys are a blessing. I took my wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee to local mechanic. He said $3500 new (used) trans. Took it to the local trans shop. $600 later it was fixed.
That slammed white dually first gen 😍😍😍
Man they really took care of yall at the Dodge Diesel outfit, wish we could tour all their racing projects, look like some badass stuff thanks for taking us along Bill.
That’s the best explanation of that Dodge automatic transmission I’ve ever heard, Firepump diesel, what an amazing shop. That truck and trailer is actually lighter than I thought it would be.
The OLD man always make my day. Bless you all.
LMAO Miss Vicki was so mad even the dogs were concerned!!
I started my own concrete business this year, I bought a 3rd gen ram 2500 with the 5.9 Cummins to do all the towing. I had that boy loaded down with my dump trailer and a load of 21AA limestone. 21,140 lbs on the scale and it pulled like a dream. Compared to the v10 f350 my old boss had, night and day difference. We would be screaming that v10 all the time, light work for the diesel. Great trucks!
Smiles in miles.. Dodge has stood up for us when no one would. Giving the little guy a chance to play with the biggest that could be offered.. And we accept and thank them with all our hearts..
My dad used to always say,..."you'll never find a diesel mechanic that doesn't have a pocket full of money." That guy definitely knows his "stuff". Those billet plates are cool.
Enjoy your night Bill. Thanks for the update on shoplife there. You make us all feel like family.
Absolutely
Couldn’t agree more. The shop tours are amazing as well as the updated valve body explanation. Being a truck puller the pics of the outlaw diesel independent front end was amazing.
Gotta love how an old big block dually with 300k+ miles has pulled 20k lbs all over the country for this long. While it wasn't ideal, it was definetly impressive. Like you always say, "make it do or do without"
Firepunk FTW! Glad to see them getting you taken care of! Have a great week SRC Family and stay warm!
I’ve had my dodge 3500 for almost 20 years and 600k miles and never looked back. I had a Ford and chevy 3500 and a Ford 250 and nothing compared to it. Mine now makes 600 and about 1400 tq and will pull the 48 foot trailer like a dream.
One of my favorite videos as of lately. I've traveled those roads so many times. The last time was in my 66 Chevelle SS. So many good memories told by a loving Father, Husband and family man. Outstanding!!!!!
I live in NC and i also Travel them roads a lot and my favorite model Chevelle is the 66. I have a 65 Chevelle SS but always wanted a 66
I’m 70 years old in doing transmissions since I was 12 my fathers and brothers and now my nephews are running the business. If your Dodge and that’s what I call it has a weakness it’s in its gearbox. Just keep it serviced🥸🥸🥸🥸
I’ve had five of the 5.9L Cummins trucks over the years and love those engines. All my trucks had manual transmissions and I had a small excavation business like you. Those trucks pulled my backhoe and bobcat like nothing. I’m sure that 6.7L is even better. So happy you guys got a nice tow rig for your race program.
I have a buddy that runs one of that companies transmissions and loves it. He pulls a race trailer all over the country with his Super Farm Stock pullin tractor… Another great video Bill…
Mr.Bill it's how you talk to your friends and Repairs shops owners. You have class and respect when you speak. Happy Holidays. Joey
It never surprises me how heavy some of these trailers are. Good on you to keep it maintained
Well I can totally agree with you. I have been a Dodge and a Cummins fan for several years. Always drove Chevys and Fords. Needed a new rig and now I got a 3500 crew cab dually sitting in the driveway. I love it!
Makes my day when a notification comes up on my phone that either you, Billy, or Tommy have uploaded a new video! Oh and of course we can’t leave out Cousin Eddy. Lol
Took the words out of my mouth, great father to be concerned......god bless you and your family Bill
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Tommy has a channel?
Tommy has a channel?
@@tater82 yeah it’s &SRCPHOTO
Hell of a way to start my day when you post a video Bill. Firepunk was cool, thanks for taking us along. God is on your side, heard you say yesterday the whole shop is running off of 2 #10 wires. Yikes!! No bueno, way too light! Glad that issue is being taken care of. Stay safe, God Bless you all.
Ok you cracked me up , quote, , " I can't find no chicken nowhere" , funny stuff , that diesel shop was unreal !!
Always wait for your video before going to sleep😂 it’s worth it every time!
Domestic manufacturers have really stepped up their quality. All 3 of them make great trucks. Doesn't matter which you prefer
Thanks bill , great video .
So glad y'all got the Dodge , it's a beast
Stay safe best of luck 👍
I just joined your and billys channel. Awesome content, I do a lot of diesel truck pulling, I’m out of Medina Ohio by Cleveland, and I use Firepunk for all my transmission needs in the sled pulling truck, great group of guys there you won’t find a nicer group there, always willing to take the time to bs and do great work
Great content on the trans, I'm going to show a co-worker this video tomorrow, for his dually Dodge.
Fire Punk sure has a beautiful shop, clean and well organized.
Nice people, it is always amazing to watch someone's eyes that knows exactly what you are describing about your vehicle while you talk about a problem you experienced.
They are just so full of knowledge and experience that no computer could even come close to possessing because these guys know by heart and feel what you are describing.
I love it.
Just think if everybody used their brains this much for good things instead of not using their brains at all and just plodding through life numb and dumb.
Take Care and God Bless
We run GM Duramax trucks, and have had amazing, trouble free service out of them. IMHO the Allison is much better transmission than the other offerings. Y'all should spray foam the roof of the shop. It would make a HUGE difference keeping it warm in the winter!
Yes, the Cummins engine is a very dependable workhorse, but the transmission (48RE I think) is basically a light duty unit beefed up internally with a bigger pump and more clutches for diesel applications. The Allison trans in the GM vehicles was designed for that kind of service. I was very impressed with what they have done to improve the valve body function and reliability.
The Dodge trucks behind the Cummins use an Aisin as69rc in 2013 up ho Cummins engine and is rated for 1200ft torque, and is made by Toyota, on the other hand the 68rfe in the 2007.5 newer trucks and light duty Cummins is made by dodge and is rated at 800ft torque, dodge doesn't use the Allison transmission but we all wish they did
@@Dave_9547 the 48RE was a good tranny behind the 5.9 Cummins, easy to build, the newer 6.7 Cummins all had 6speed tranny's made by dodge or by Toyota under the name of AISIN
@@cargotoolshop5319 I think the Aisin transmission is an option because a friend has a 2019 Ram one ton with the Cummins and he did not want to pay the extra for the upgrade. He has not had any trouble but he only tows a 32 ft travel trailer, nothing like what the SRC folks are hauling. Basically no matter what you do, heavy weight can cause problems. I watched a video where the owner of a Ram/Cummins one ton dually twisted off a billet input shaft inside of the converter. They had to cut the converter apart to disassemble the transmission.
@@Dave_9547 my dad has the 68rfe tranny in his truck and it's alive only cause of what I had to do, it's deleted and makes huge power, but it's in tow haul mode which doesn't make more power but it ups the line pressure in the tranny and stopped the lock up clutch in the converter from chattering, 215K and my dad doesn't believe in changing trans fluid, still looks good though
Lavon and his guys are top notch. They built a comp. 2 transmission for my truck and dyno tuned it.
Bill, I too love the Dodge (Ram) trucks, when I purchased mine I had tested the others and felt the Dodge/Cummins combo was the best out there. It's main purpose was to pull a trailer also, the engine was always the bulit proof item, but the trans went out (started slipping) at 22K. We put a ATS trans W/triple disk converter in it and never had another issue. The 46,47 & 48 trans are just not up to the task in stock form, but you should not have to spend another 7500.00 to fix the trans. Recently we we wanted to replace the old Dodge, so again we shopped the competetion and while they all had nice fetures, nothing out there pulled like the new Ford 6.7 with it's 10 speed trany. We tryed the gas and deiesel version of allmakes and settled on the F450 6.7 w/10 speed. I recently built a new shop and had to move the trailers and equipment from the old spot to the new one, and it pulled the old trailers so much easier, everyone noticed. Our race trailer is about the same weight as yours, but we just got a new 36' deck over (PJ) and we used that to move the steel to the new shop, we had almost 29,000 Lbs on the trailer alone, total weight was close to 38,000lbs total. I had no issues and the trip was much easier then the Dodge puling the race trailer, the truck just moves out and hits 10th gear and will only down shift if you slow way down or hit a huge hill. 7th gear is 1:1 so 8, 9 & 10 and all overdrive. I will alwasy love the cummins, thruth is I miss the old truck. it had charactor and with the larger injectors and trubo, it would talk too you, and nothing can take the sound of the ticking away. But for sure power, ease of towing and ride comfort, I have to say the Ford is much better. I really do not have a favorite brand, I think I liked the Cummins more then the Dodge brand, I alwasy felt the engine was king in that combo. We just try to find the best truck for the money, when it comes time to purchase a replacement. I hope yours last a long, long time. I found the week link is the lack of cooling to the trany, and weak internals, on mine. Once that was fixed, we never had an issue with it, and yes it ws fun walking up gerico mountain passing people in the fast lane, we did it often.
My mileage was not great, the truck got on average 13.5 to 14.5 empty and about 9-10 pulling. Best run was to New Mexico, there and back over the weekend! Also, thanks for the info on Firepunk, I did not know they were into the fabrication side, will keep them in mind.
We live in Independence, KY about 14 miles out of Cincinnati, off 75 (florence Mt Zion exit). I use Heads Up Cylinder Heads for my head work, have you ever used or heard of them? They do mostly NHRA stuff, and just moved to a new location in Dayton, OH. I have been going there for about 12 years and have been very happy with the work. I have 4 sets of heads to pick-up in hopefully the next 3-4 weeks. Sorry for the poor performance last weekend, but I think Billy would have gone rounds if he had gotten my the first. Happy holidays to you and your family, and if your ever in the area (you stopped and had supper at Texas Roadhouse use a exit from us ) and need anything, your always welcome to use our shop. Love the channel and love the content. Dave
Glad to hear the ram is treating you guys well
Sitting in the hospital watch my favorite TH-cam channel laid up
Looks like you found a place to finish Tommy's truck. And I bet they'll do it right. That race shop was spotless.
I definitely just went and subscribed to, firepunk diesels, youtube page just now! Thanks, for the introduction to those fellas, Bill!
Man, Firepunk has such a nice, clean shop! Wish we had shops like that down here.
Glad to see you guys getting to reap the rewards of your hard work. You guys are a great team. From the immediate family to all the extended family. Kenny for president.
I'd vote for that hard-working problem solver.
Let’s talk about that old 454 being able to pull that weight! That’s impressive
Shame GM didn’t keep the 8.1 and now look ford has the 7.3 Godzilla.
What are you talking about a 454 is a beast of an engine! My old 40 foot motor home had one went over the rockyys with ease
@@dougj.8288 the new 6.6 gas jobs are pretty stout units.
@@kidcody3626 his has something like 300xxx miles on it. I know they are good engines but his has been worked hard
@@tonydetrick5951 oh yea his whole trucks been ran hard and hung out to dry and when prices fall i wouldn't ve surprised if you spot him in a newer dodge diesel
I has never owned a diesel pickup, pull my 4200lb car. I purchased a 3500 Duramax 6.6. Like you, I have been nothing short of amazing how it performs. Dodge usually upgrade to a Allison's transmission which the Chevrolet has. It never miss a beat. Glad you have a vehicle that is safe, and made for towing, takes stress away!
Those firepunk diesel guys seems like really good people, just checked out there channel. Oh my oh my. I almost wished I wouldn’t had, lol, amazing builds and content on that channel
Thanks for video,think we have gotten older! Talking about a truck,its transmission and how much it weighs. And were happy and content! Thanks Bill
Wow, we just love you guys. I enjoy street racing and after my wife listens to you and miss Vickie, we don't miss an episode. Actually we can't wait for another. We are traveling down we from Washington state to do some street stuff and hope to meet you both. Stay safe and Happy holidays!!!
Going from pulling my 32ft travel trailer with my ram1500 hemi to my tuned and deleted 2500 ram, my wife went from hating riding with me to not saying a word while I tow. This 6.7 is an animal.
Love that truck. I do think you would probably be just as impressed with a 2017 GM or Ford diesel though too, coming from an old gas truck.
weak ass fords
Ford make more power and more mpg. My 19 tows no problem rides better better trans. N gives 18mpg outta a stock f350 srw 4x4 4 dr long bed.
@@ZachE-sy9vc dodge hauls better
I get anymore I can't wait for you guys to post love watching all your guys post my kids like sitting with me and watching you guys race my 6 year old tells me to rewind to when race begins so he can watch from beginning
Gorgeous truck Bill im so proud for you guys to have it hopefully youll be able to come race in Oklahoma sometime and ill get to meet your family in person. Thanks for a video tonight
I was following along pretty well listening about the valve body...... until I noticed the finger nail polish. It was all over from there. 🧐 👀 👀 then I'm trying to figure out if he let his daughter do that or what, because I could see me letting my 5yr old paint my nails. Lol but it would have been gone b4 I left the house! Lmao you can tell the dude is a genius with Transmissions and diesels!
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Thank you sir for another video this morning as I prepare to move a mile down the road from Franklin to Middletown kinda up set gotta leave my nice big house sorta set up the way yours is with the wrap around driveway couple acres with a lil creek all the way around the property except where the entrance so as you can imagine I'm not enjoying this move bc I'm getting a town house as a temporary place till I find something similar to this one needed something to cheer me up thanks buddy
Ive had a 5.9 which I absolutely loved, and a 6.7 both manuals, the 6.7 with a 6 speed though... unbreakable. I havent had any issues with it in 150k and I live in Virginia so im pulling massive grades on the daily.
Glad your enjoying your ram, i couldn't get rid of mine fast enough.. traded it for a 21 Duramax and couldn't be happier
Yep between dealing with severe ptsd and medical issues as well as the junk going on in our country. I look foward to watching the videos everyday.
I'm a Chevy guy too when it comes to cars and going fast, when it comes to trucks I've been a Dodge Ram guy since 1999, awesome trucks.
I put a Oil filter relocation kit on mine. It makes it so much better to change the oil. I would lighten up that trailer some, I know when I was towing my I did not fill the water tank and made sure the crap tank was empty. The fuel mileage is pretty close to mine I get about 11gpm when pulling my 40' trailer in the hills and about 14gpm on the flat, and I also don't pull in overdrive unless the trailer is empty. I have run my share of overdrive clutches out of transmissions over the years. But I found that about 67 mph you will get the best fuel mileage at least on my truck so I set the cruse and let her eat. One of these days I will have to get over to your place once things get back to normal and swap war stories. Be safe and have a good holiday.
Fire Punk has one hell of a rep. I have a friend that took his truck out to them to get more power out of it and ended up with a little over 1400 hp out it. That Dodge will be a good vehicle for ya
Thanks for the video ole man ! love that truck i'm a DODGE fan ! it looks good hooked to that 50ft trailer! Glad everybody had a good time and made it home safe! GOD BLESS and GOODNIGHT!
Fabulous vid of the Dodge museum Bill! Surprised you did not show us the box of "Ask for forgiveness "
Cannot wait to see what you have up your sleeve next. That chinese snowman voice cracks me up.
Hey Bill God bless you brother as parents we inherently worry about her kids and I can just imagine them going racing and traveling you definitely got some worries lol please keep putting out content we love it bill
Those guys have the setup! I own a 2003 Dodge 3500 6 speed manual love it it’s my 4 Dodge diesel use to be a hardcore Chevy man as well!!
Man that old slammed dually 😎. Glad you got that fixed. Wish he would have taken you for a ride in the 1,500 horse shop truck while visiting
Just clicked on the video knowing it was just a matter of time that dodge trans freaked out.
It's not a bad trans design, problem is the oem manufacturer cuts cost on clutch packs and soft shifts. What the aftermarket does with additional frictions and steels and with valvebody mods is what the factory should have done in first place. These corners cut always end with your beloved ram on a flatbed aimed toward your favorite aftermarket trans shop when towing these huge loads at or above maximum towing capacity.
To me it's kinda crazy (and impressive at same time) that this 68re and all the others before it such as 47re and 48re all based on the original 727 design. It's actually quite simple and lightweight in it's basic layout. These modern cases and internals mimic that old design going back to the early 1960s.
It's kinda like having a muscle car era built 727 with a big ole overdrive tail section hung off the back. Slap a computer nearby to control solenoids electronically and there you have it!
I smile every time u say I love this dodge. That’s all I own 9 of them and one Chevy pick up that’s needs motor and trans
Im right there with you Im a Chevy guy but I needed a new truck for towing my dad's bass boat. I looked and did some research Ram for the money is the way to go. I ended up with a used 2019 ram classic with the 5.7 Hemi and so far I have no complaints after 2 years of driving it. My next truck though will be a 84-86 Chevy K10 short bed if I can find one that's not rusted to pieces for a decent price.
Sitting here watching old videos and boom goes the notification! You always come through, thank you thank you
For people that have never visited the Appalachian mountains in the fall I highly recommend visiting at least once in your life. The scenery is some of the most beautiful in the country!
Lavon and crew at Firepunk are top notch!!
6 in a row Ready to tow. Can’t beat the torque and the affordability. Rams are born to pull.
The old Dodge sittin on the ground is a beauty for sure
I hope your ram has the same equipment as mine but love the auto heated seats and steering wheel when it's 40 or less . . Also just a great truck all the way around!
That's a part of being a parent we get to give our children advice from our past mistakes in all Hope's they don't repeat them. Your doing just fine ol man
Your family rocks . I look forward to seeing what you guys got coming up . Love seen that you guys doing .
I told you that you guys would fall in love with that truck!
It’s always a good day when rc parts show up
Great video ,always love ur content, you are always going to worry about ur kids, and make sure they are safe anyway u can.thats a good father .cant wait for ur next video..
Bill, put a 100 gallon tank in the bed of the truck. Fill it up once a month.
Your friend in PEX tubing
David A.
2010 2500 4wd. Been running an 50 gallon in bed Transferflow tank since new. Gives me 85 gallons total. Very good upgrade. Things to watch out for. heater vent door actuator. Check the steering linkage yearly.
You all need to take Tommy's truck there to get it finished looks like they do great work
Everything in their shop had a Cummins diesel in it even the 69' Camaro.
That Diesel shop is awesome for taking care of you like that, wonder if their race shop could finish up Tommys S-10?? Great video Bill, Take Care.
I was thinking the same thing about Tommy`s truck getting finished.
If you got the money they could effortlessly do it. And the trucks they build are extremely fast
You definitely need a turbo wing for the roof of the truck! It’ll definitely help gas mileage, helped us with a 48 ft. And a gas dually
Now that's service and I gotta say . Every garage needs to take large notes
Just made my day for sure!!!! Along with the boys videos last night. I miss the street content, it was Def refreshing lol
Bill, got a 2017 Laramie 3500 dually. I pull a 41 ft RV. Weight of my RV is listed as 14,200 dry. I agree with your statements about the power and comfort of this truck. Got a fuel tip for you. Check out a company called TSD Logistics. They offer a fuel card for folks that have RVs and big trucks. No cost for the card. They charge you 10 percent of what you save. I usually purchase 70-75 gallons at my fuel stops. Got a sixty gallon aux tank in the bed. Last fuel stop I made I got a $0.38 per gallon discount. Don’t take long for savings to add up.
Bill, I had a 2007 Ram pulling my 5th wheel I got 10 or 11 MPG my combined weight was 24500 and I really liked my Dodge. I sold it to buy another Ram but could not find a Ram with the AISIN trans. So bought a Chev 3500 Duramax LML and the best Ive got off that rig id 9.5 MPG. I loved my Ram and would have had another if I could have found one with the HD trans,
Firepunk is the king of Cummins pickups. I wish I would have had them do the trans in my truck. Great video looking forward to more.
@@CleaversVids I wanted to have Firepunk do mine but they are 200 miles from me. Ended up and had the local Aamco shop do it. Can’t recommend them at all. They said they would have it done in a week, it took 3 weeks and wasn’t right when I picked it up.
I love my RAM 3500 6.7 Cummins also, but Ignored a few skipping shifts and other things, and one day I was pulling my trailer and it didn't want to take off from a red light, and I was only about a mile from the house so I stuck it in 4-low and forced it back to the house and had the Dodge dealer send their towtruck to pick it up the next morning, and 4 days and $6849 later I got my truck back. lol. Glad to hear y'all got it tended to before it cost you an arm and a leg.
I too have a major sweet tooth. You got one great wife and kids. Living the dream. You done real good Bill. Your what a real man is all about
You need some magnetic door stickers wit SRC on them for the RAM
It's amazing that old big block could even pull a 19k lb trailer. Welcome to the diesel puller world. If that Cummins wasn't deleted you'd only get 6 or 7 mpg.
Had the same problem with the Ram 4500 Jerr Dan repo truck I used to operate a few months after the owner upgraded the exhaust and turbo. From Ashville NC to Greenville SC. Then was stuck in 2nd gear for the last 8 miles of the trip. Fun times.
I have a 1500 2005 Dodge ram with a 5.7 hemi besides general maintenance and going through three rear ends I just rebuilt the tranny at 220,000 miles a couple water pumps one alternator and some brake pads every once in a while Watch the ball joints dodge is week But what a great truck and I too have been a diehard Chevy fan
That Dodge is one great truck , my son loves his 3/4 ton , I am more of a gas guy , 3/4 ton V-10 , but I pull a much smaller trailer loaded with Mopar wheels.
Im gonna be in trouble soon as well. Just spent over $100 on brass parts for my RC. But it makes us happy.
That’s awesome. I’ve been eyeing those valve bodies for my 16 2500
From one old time real parts manager to another. Hats off to you Mark there aren’t many of us left.
Ram makes new customers everyday, I switched from Ford to Ram after Ford got rid of the 7.3 power stroke. I've had several since 2008 and have had excellent service from every one of them, both gas and diesel.
It’s pretty impressive that that truck gets 11 mpg towing around 20,000 lbs. (27,600 gross weight - 8,000 vehicle weight). What’s even more impressive is that 454 towed that same weight
The 454 in my 2000 Chevy 3500 cclb hated my open trailer and 3500lb street car in sw Pa mountains. The truck only ever got about 10 mpg empty and 4 towing 6000 lbs.
I really enjoyed your video there was no pomp and circumstance no arrogance and I loved the background music and your wife definitely a neat girl and your dog how my girlfriend has a dog just like her only he he gets into mischief on a regular basis when I’m driving down the road he wants lovey-dovey he starts pouring away at me he’s a really neat little guy anyways you got a beautiful truck there I got by six in a row Because I have a 91.5 dodge with over 500,000 miles on it bought it out in Seattle to move cars with a knife and called Chito
Been pulling 40ft. Trailers for years with metal coils on them pushing g 30k. Been thru many trucks with .y company nothing beats the duramax with the allison tranny. Upgraded power with programmer and all and that allison never skipped a beat. After 190k when we sold it.
I feel your pain. My wife gets pissed every time a package comes in 🤣🤣🤣!
When I finally cut the oil burners loose , I started towing with my 454 suburban, my normal tow to my home in another state, it cost me 20 bucks more in gasoline costs. Yes less mpg but not much more in $$. Then upon returning home , done the regular oil change, how nice to only buy 1 gallon of oil instead of 3 gallons of it. There was a time when diesel was worth it but at the pump it’s not worth it anymore
Ran several hotshot trucks and my personal truck has a Cummins. Hard to beat a Cummins. Good buy! 👍
Bill
Tell us how you like the engine brake/ transmission coordination on the Dodge. That’s my favorite part about the truck is how effortlessly it is when coming off of a steep grade.
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Love it.