The Analogue Pocket just became my NEW go to Emulator...
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The new NES, SNES and Genesis openFPGA cores for the Analogue Pocket just made it my new favorite Emulator, with some limitations...
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Can you do a review on the polymega?
This is becoming a series now of Bob falling more and more in love with this device can’t wait for 3 more installments
@Marko Polo using a dpad on a screen sucks so bad tho but I do 2
@Marko Polo i also prefer to play retro games on my phone..its hassle free 😁
@Marko Polo maybe you'll like the Miyoo mini v2/3
First of all, there has been an UPDATE to the Analogue's firmware that allows for button remapping on the openFPGA chip (yey!).
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Thanks dude. Love your content.
Just reported the spam. But I would certainly accept a prize lol. Great content.
Reported that filthy spam. I KNEW I wasn’t that lucky lol
You actually CAN change button mappings now, as of the most recent firmware version! I changed my NES layout to have the “Y” button mapped to “B”, and the “B” button mapped to “A”. Also, if you use the no-intro roms for SNES, those should already have the headers trimmed :)
The idea of having a portable emulation device like an Analogue Pocket or Retroid Pocket 3 is definitely growing on me, but I definitely agree that changes/iterations are so frequent that I am hesitant to buy one of these devices now just to see a more streamlined/more powerful device get announced in 6 months.
Well that's the nature of tech so you'll be waiting a while. But you can probably rest easy knowing Analogue does it right and won't be doing something like this device for a long time. If you don't mind grabbing one of the more generic Chinese devices, yeah they'll probably spec bump more often. But honestly what will that really get you? A couple more cores available?
You can also build an emulation pc. No need to limit yourself to buy prebuilt emulation by companies
Regardless of the new tech that comes out, these devices will always play these retro games. If your goal is to emulate all consoles up to current then yeah you’ll be better off with a PC but if you want to play game boy today tether 4 years from now with the device you get today will still play that game boy lol
@@yoaiou Yeah exactly. If software emulation was all you were after the analogue pocket is actually pretty low on the list of things you should be looking at in the first place. It's primary purpose is hardware emulation, this is just a nice new perk on top of an already great design.
The Pocket won’t be updated for like a decade. It already has an overkill screen and FPGAs aren’t getting cheaper or better in the low end. You want a portable FPGA this is pretty much it.
cant wait for the next video "the analogue pocket can now watch moribus in 4k HDR 120fps"
I remember downloading Neo Geo roms OVERNIGHT on my dialup connection in 1999. Who remembers NeoRageX?
Goated emulator. Neogeo greatest era of gaming
I'm a big fan of the MiSTer. It wasn't easy to set up, purchase proper cables, connect to my CRT, purchase a nice arcade stick but it wasn't hard, and all of it was super fun! This Analogue Pocket? I want really bad now too.
Where do I buy a MISTer?
Good luck with preorder dates... don't bother with scalping prices one ebay.
I have a few of these handhelds, it’s good to have more opinions or hot takes on the latest one that comes out. I would almost say because there are so many variants releasing that I enjoy content like this to see what to buy and what to avoid.
any recommendations?
At this point I'm just waiting for Bob to edit an actual coffee shop where he is everyone inside
I mostly just like hearing about what these devices are capable of and what your opinion is on them. I may never buy one of these emulation devices tbh. But if I do! I'll have like 200 Wulff Den vids to sift through to find what works best for me.
It's not an emulator.
It'd be really cool if they could ship these out or even let us regular buyers know what's going on.
Right! Still waiting for mine to arrive. Pre order was placed an confirmed in 2021 ffs!!
@@lomaxo3978 same here. I contacted support, they said it was scheduled to ship somewhere in 2023…
@@lomaxo3978did you get it?
I think it's neat that there's so many options for handheld emulators nowadays. Personally I bought my RG351M a year+ ago, and I'm perfectly happy to have that be my sole emulator handheld until PS2 is available in smaller form factors. IMHO it's all about finding something that works for you, buying it and enjoying it until there's a big leap that allows for more emulation options that your old one can't do.
It's not an emulator.
@@cashtache yes it is. Hardware emulation via FPGA is emulation. It's not magic.
The emulation devices keep getting churned out and it looks like there's a lot of noise, but once you decide up to what console you are willing to emulate and what form factor is best for you, the list will definitely narrow down.
It's not an emulator.
I feel like a fully equipped and jailbroke’d PSP GO was and still is the ultimate portable retro gaming device.
What we really need is an analogue pocket DS with enough power to play DS and 3DS games
DS-style emulation consoles I would be sold on
R4 Gold with a DS Lite - *hold my beer*
I really enjoyed the pocket, but as you said, it costs too much and can't be bought readily so I was too afraid to travel with it. I also really missed the option for all the quality of life features such as tons of save slots, fast forward, and many more. And my old eyes also wanted a bigger screen.
The price for having the accurate hw on the go is pretty fair. You compare it to a china emu handheld. Wrong comparison. And save states will be updated once they ported it from the MiSTer project.
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 tbh I'd prefer to just buy a old nintendo switch and mod it, costs the same but way better
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 so you can’t save games on this device??
@@claclaz95 wdym way better. Then youre emulating. Way worse
Fun fact, Bean City is real. It's called City Bean, though.
And then there's me, being perfectly content with a modded n3DS.
I have the Anbernic RG351v and love it, but I REALLY want the Analogue Pocket for the sake of actually collecting gameboy carts, and seeing this update just makes it much more appealing! Something about actually putting a cartridge into your handheld is satisfying on its own, yet also having the additional cores to emulate other consoles? yes please!
I feel the same way, but decided to upgrade some GBAs to use my real or reproduced cartridges and link cables
It's not an emulator.
The Analogue Pocket is probably the most beautiful console out there. As Bob mentioned in the video, I’d be too afraid of incidental scuffs, scratches, and marks in general usage. While I tend to baby my electronics, this console is a work of art. I’ll be in trouble if the supply catches up to demand and it can become more of an impulse purchase. The only other hang up for me is the inability to emulate N64 (form factor and control limitations aside).
This looks cool and all, hardware emulation also seems like a good option but something that I realized recently is that when I'm on the go I care more about the ease of use that some options can give more than a perfect or accurate representation, like you said fastforward, save states and the option to put the console to sleep in a sec without worrying about the game are great additions. Also It's really hard to justify It with that price over a normal emulation machine if one doesn't have the cartridges or really care about them.
I realized that after my anbernic was stolen and destroyed by a dog, and I went back to use the old 3ds with the extended battery, damn I miss those save states, I need to manually close the gba games because the console doesn't go to sleep mode, after watching your videos multiple times I think I'll get the Pocket 3 or Miyoo Mini, not sure which one yet. the Mini seems nice and portable but the Pocket 3 ability to use It sideways for vertical shooters seems really cool.
This. I keep seeing reviewers gushing over the analogue because it now has rom support. But you could already do that for cheaper. And there's not a huge gap between fpga and emulation, especially when you're playing on a handheld.
The pocket cores are constantly updated so many of those features are only a matter time.
It’s frustrating because I’m getting cold feet on buying ANY portable emulator, but at the same time I’m excited because it means one of these days someone is going to produce a portable emulator that will be almost perfect. That one with the Switch-like UI is really close.
I honestly wish they go back to the xmb style menu. So organized
It's not an emulator.
Just got my Pocket today and I'm about to install this
nice to see people acknowledging that this too is emulation, just hardware emulation instead of software emulation
It's so cool! I hope they make one that's a bit more comfortable to hold like a GBA style form factor and with a bigger screen.
That’s exactly what I’m holding out hoping for. The GBA style will be amazing and comfortable would be much better
It's the sort of device you might expect to see on Billions, I think boutique is the peerfect word for it - it's just too nice to travel with and risk scratching the matte finish. Mine has a few small marks and it's never left the house! I do get a feeling of immense satisfaction when holding such a premium bit of kit though.
I still want this thing, and now I want it even more.
last i saw was $500 on ebay :(
@@fatshoelace Just order one and wait till end of next year
Honestly I am more than happy to just keep playing emulators through my steam deck. being able to do emulation and other things all in the same device that I can take with me is just nicer.
Why not Miyoo mini v2? It is more compact, it has small frames (which looks much nicer) and it has everything the same🤷🏼♂️
5:26 as an engineer, I felt that.
I ordered my Analouge pocket in december 2021 and it should come der this december, so any video you make, hype me even more :D
so analouge content is well appreciated by me :)
well, the question still remains .. WHEN WILL MY DAMN POCKET ANALOGUE SHIP?
Honestly my iPhone with Delta is the best emulator I’ve ever used. Add the Backbone remote and it’s even better. Organized. All artwork. Auto saves. So good.
Analogue: Our devices are not emulators.
Wulff: I'm bout to wreck this whole man's career.
I like the analogue pocket I just don't see the point when there are other handhelds that can play all systems up to ps2. Like if this could play psx gamecube and n64 games (maybe add analogue sticks like the gkd mini plus or anbernic) it would be perfect.
Another gripe is that all cool analogue pocket features doesn't work with open FPGA core / roms... So in the end isn't it just higher quality Miyoo for a lot more $$$?
For emulation now I just stick with my steam deck if I'm home. So much more convenient and comfortable for all my retro and new pixel art games. If I need it to be ultra portable I'll pocket my 280v which is still quite cheap and powerful enough for most my games up through ps1 rpgs.
You know, the ad on this video made me think: I'd legitimately love a channel of just Bob making videos about making coffee. We got a taste of it on the Bob Wulff channel and I'd love to see more of that.
Correction to your very first statement: The update opened up development for their main FPGA chip. The second, smaller, FPGA chip is what handles the OS and other functions. The main CycloneV chip is what all the emulators in the Pocket are running on. So all of these new, third party cores are running on the same physical chip that their cartridge based cores run on.
It’s exciting because it shows that the tech is evolving rapidly and that can only mean good things for us. That said I haven’t pulled the trigger yet on a emulator handheld because of that very reason. There always seems to be something off with one of the devices that turns me off from buying it.
Is it tho ?
My biggest problem is byv the time you get one the next *best* comes out
It's not an emulator.
this thing just looks so gorgeous that i actually want to just own one, even though id probably never use it
im just getting into pocket emulation and it feels like all these updates to devices that are happening made it very hard to land on a device to get first, but the content is appreciated.
I like seeing a bunch of options. I don't have one yet so it is exciting.
I wonder when and if the MiSTer PlayStation 1 core will find its way to the Analogue Pocket.
They shouldn't be so against emulation and allowing users to do so, emulators are not illegal roms and copyrighted content are (not to mention it isn't wrong to make copies of your own games), they aren't providing that so emulation shouldn't be an issue, it's the users risk and discretion if they want to do something like that, the company isn't responsible for what the user does with it.
It is good to know what are our options emulation wise. Even if we arent able to integrate them to our daily life until much later.
I'm dying to get my analogue pocket, still waiting on them to ship it but every single video here just makes me so excited about it
I ordered one in February and it should be arriving soon. Analogue is frustrating in a lot of ways, but the quality of their devices is really unmatched. Very excited for it, and I really appreciate how clearly you explained everything. If I'm spending that much money on this, I plan to take advantage of all of the features available.
Sadly most of cool analogue pocket features doesn't seem to work with open FPGA core / roms...
The Analogue Pocket is brilliant!
But I feel there needs to be competition with these FPGA devices. This waiting game in order to buy the Analogue Pocket is RIDICULOUS!
I always like emulation videos Baab. It’s like you don’t know me…it’s my favourite thing.
almost 1 year and still no news about my analogue. its crazy
Aaaah, I can't wait to get mine! Q4 is too vague!
I think getting the RG351v took care of my retro games and I have a few upgraded GBAs to play real or reproduced cartridges
I enjoy your emulation videos. At some point, I'll buy one!
It's exciting for users as well. Because right now, whatever month you try this in, you'll certainly find a good emulation device for emulation up to PS1 for ~60 USD, for emulation up to NDS for less than 100 USD, up to GameCube for ~200 USD etc., and with months passing, newer devices will up the ante again and again. As a user, you just have to make sure you buy one that _really_ suits your needs and wants and stick with it (the good ones get good 3rd party firmware to tinker with later on) instead of buying a new one every other month. I got my Anbernic RG353VS today, which is GBC sized and perfect for what I want and need. (Plus I still love the Miyoo mini, which I make sure I have with me at all times.
Nice! I’m hoping to buy one in the future, now I can do so much more with it!
Getting mine delivered tomorrow from the latest batch release. Sooooo excited!!
The best emulator is just a 3ds with homebrew
Bang for buck, absolutely. But there's better devices.
FPGA isn't really the same thing as emulation. The term "hardware emulation" is a bit of a misnomer. The reason why there's less input lag with all emulation is because the input lag with emulation comes from the software overhead, since because youre running the console as software, youre running essentially 2 layers of software - both the console and the game. With an FPGA core you're simulating the console's behavior using the hardware itself, so there is no additional input lag created from overhead.
I got mine about 9 months ago and i love it, most of my retro consoles went into storage for the meantime.
Great as always, interesting info Wulff Den, keep it up!
The Pocket screen is really nice and I have a LOT of Gameboy cartridges, but everything else about it makes me want to just use my Experimental Pi PiBoy DMG when it comes to emulating. It’s buttons are better, it’s more comfortable to hold, and I just prefer Emulation Station. Maybe once the cores have had time to mature, I’ll revisit it. But right now, the screen and eventual Super Gameboy support are the only things the Pocket has going for it
I’ll stick to my Odin and Miyoo Mini. Better presentation including box art and video previews (on Odin for videos), better compatibility, rewind/fast forward, achievements.
SOOOOOO the FM chip options are amazing. Those are some very special chips for a lot of synth heads like me. It's a very particular sound, with a kinda loaded history around them.
As a beat producer I would have liked to hear more about this aspect. The sequencer too, and midi options
I can't wait for analogue to deliver mine to my grave!!! 😍😍😍
This is the greatest video I’ve seen in awhile. Pumped to get my analog pocket even more now. Thank you for this.
Being a handheld device using FPGA is big reason why I jumped on grabbing one recently. It doesn't have as many logic elements as the mister does. I think the analogue pocket is at 64k logic elements vs 110k on the MiSTER, based on what I read online. With the community support having ramped up even more so since this video, there's a boatload of supported cores for the analog pocket now. Essentially up to the 4th generation of consoles should be fully supported as of this message iirc. If you have the funds for this kind of hobby, it's a fantastic device with specs to match, and FPGA is brilliant.
What device are you referring too?
@@ZBatt1The Analogue Pocket of course, same as the video is talking about. I think they're shipping in February for anyone that ordered in December 2023.
2:08
They makes me miss when jailbreaking an iphone was literally just plugging it in to your computer and pressing a single button
I have a miyoo mini, an RP3 and a steam deck. I'm not super interested in more videos about emulators but I watched this whole thing. So maybe I'll just watch anything you upload
Hey Bob, I'm probably pulling down the Core listing since now there's an API page that has the cores/install dates. Just figured you'd want to know since we keep taking stuff down that you reference in videos lol. The API Cores thing is listed in the Links on the r/AnalogueInc subreddit but we can get it added on both. We agree its a bit confusing lol.
Waiting on my Anolog Pocket, when I finally get it these videos are going to be super helpful
I’m waiting for mine to come in. Can’t wait!
This thing is super cool, but I won't be excited about it at all until like 2030 when you may be able to get one easily.
I should have mine coming in next month FINALLY! Super excited to play around with these features!
How long did it take?
@@POSVO A year
I'm in the Q4 group for finally getting one. I'm definitely excited to try this out. Looks awesome 😎
You got a Flair Pro? I should have known. I always see you making coffee and drinking lattes.
Horizontal, 5:3 1920x1152 ~4.8-5.8”, dual analog sticks, up-to game cube titles, running linux based open source software with something OnionOS-esque as a front end. Get freaking 8bitdo involved or something.
I’ll get down and dirty for the one that releases this all rounder handheld.
I knew this date would come! I am so glad I have a 2nd one of these on order;)
Debating between pocket or mega sg. More interested I the mega sg tbh, especially with this being last batch
best non-emulating emulating device
Great Stuff, as always!
I love those clickety clicks at the beginning of the video. 😆 The pocket actually sounds like that too.
Probably gonna wait for the next revision of this or upgrade later on for now thinking of getting just a miyoo or a rg353v not sure yet can’t decide
"Are you excited at this current state of emulation hardware coming out all the time, or are you frustrated because by the time you put money down on something, something newer and better is already out?"
Definitely a mix of both, and it's definitely extremely nostalgic for both reasons back to when NIntendo was still making handhelds and this exact thing was constantly happening. Pretty much starting with Gameboy Pocket in 1996, all the way up to 2017, for over 20 years, every 1-2 years there would be a new system or a new, way better version of the current system.
The only thing that would make this thing saucier would be the Xbox Series 8 way d-pad. I've been in love with it forever.
I play Retro, sometimes, and, after owning a Retroid Pocket 2 and the Evercade I came to a conclusion: I need a bigger screen. Those games were designed for tv , both in term of graphics and gameplay so when you squeeze them in a 3.5 inch screen they play differently, at the very least. Never mind reading text. So if I ever buy a new retro handhed it needs at least a 5 inch screen. So for me this new handheld here, whilst looking great, doesn't do it for me, the screen is too small.
I am gonna wait for a GBA like design, overall it is a good portable.
I love how when you talk about your mega man X rom... you make sure to put the physical cartridge in the picture.. nice ;)
I just bought a Miyoo and find that a bit more user friendly. smaller form factor and all the roms just work.
This video just makes me realize how great the miyoo mini is.
Mostly I use a hacked Vita for emulation. The stuff that it can't handle well or at all, the Steam Deck can usually handle. I like the idea of the Analogue Pocket, but I don't have enough carts to make good use of its main feature. I do keep wanting to get one for the horrible reason of using it with a game boy camera though.
what you said at the end about getting frustrated with the scene kinda rang true for me. like one month after I bought my RP2+ they finally announced the RP3 lmao. But it's a good problem to have honestly, I've had my eye on this scene since like 2014 and it's cool to see it finally in a place I had once only hoped for.
Do you need an SD card to even use it out of the box? And what size and brand do I need? I’ve never even formatted an SD card before either, will the console format it for me like anything else does? I have so many questions and the group I joined on Facebook just told me to look at the pinned comments but I want fast answers instead of looking around blindly.
I don't know if the Super NT hardware can support it, but I'd love to see the reverse where GB, GBA, and etc cores open up on that
Won’t happen, Super Nt doesn’t have sufficient hardware for OpenFPGA.
The advancing technologies are a bit frustrating albeit cool. It's like you said as soon as you find something that works for you something better comes out. For me. It was retro collecting. Then it was upgrading the screens on my handhelds. Then the Nintendo switch expansion pack came out. Then everdrives. Replaced my physical cartridges because collecting cartridges is so expensive and now we have machines like the analog pocket and the miyoo mini plus
whats frustrating is that im still waiting on this thing that i ordered months ago, while all you nerds who SOMEHOW scored one in the beginning already got yours. i was literally checking out the minute they went live and i still got into Group B
Just wish they could get these systems out faster. I’m on the 2nd shipment allotment and the only people that have one is the first shipment folks. Still have to wait to get the machine. Seems like a great device, only getting greater, but definitely the main released system that has the toughest job actually getting units out compared to everybody else.
Misadventures of Tron Bonne music in the background. Perfection.
I really can't wait to get mine in the mail now. There's something I've been meaning to try for fun
It's really an incredible product. But the official dock has one HUGE missed opportunity! It should include an VGA output for connecting it to analogue monitors.
Wait what, I legitimately thought the Analogue Pocket LAUNCHED with these features!