Have you tried gutting a switch joycon and installing it in that larger joycon soldering required custom PCV cables to mod it, anyways make your own and give 5% for the idea lol
Funnily enough I just found Factor the other week from Facebook. I had a home cooked meal last night and found I already couldn’t eat as big of portions as I used to. I already feel different in 2 weeks of use. Has anyone else used these meals and had changes this fast? These meals aren’t frozen so it actually tastes good. I highly recommend the juices. I’m not sponsored, but give it a try!
Those "knobs" are to avoid aplying all the weight of the console to the slides when is laying on a surface, instead to apply it to the main body that is more sturdy, you even can see how it flexed when you pushed it down slightly.🙃
In all honesty tho.... It wouldn't be much of a detriment due to nearly every other joycon alternatives doesn't have those nubs. It's more of a precautions to ensure the switch would have more support than it otherwise wouldn't regularly have.
9:45 Those nubs are designed to stop the controllers from flexing against the screen assembly. DO NOT REMOVE THEM! Doing so can irreparably damage the tracks and connections the joy-cons attach too.
That would explain the issues I was having with my Nexigo pads. Was, because the constant disconnects made me switch back to my Hori Split Pad Pros. Thankfully, didn't seem to have caused any (noticable) permanent damage.
I think the nubs are to relieve pressure on the joycon rail when the switch is sitting flat, because after you sheered them off, when you pushed a button the connection between the splitpad and the switch bent noticibly
Ok, because it was so good I just feel like people aren't going to mention it. The work that went into that ad. Throwing the package back and forth. That was seamless! Deserves mad props.
Bob always does something INSANE in every video like “modifying” brand new controllers by dismembering them. Pretty sure those ”nubs” help stabilization when slightly flexing the controllers in handheld mode
People are probably right that those knobs are to protect the joycon rails from extra pressure, but it seems like theyd also be a useful grip when you press the release button to slide the controllers off.
Looks like the nubs prevent the Switch from getting warped when it's laying flat. I wouldn't recommend removing them based on comparing the footage in this video from before and after they were removed. The Switch bends noticably more after their removal when Bob presses the buttons as a demonstration.
damm, the editing for this ad is impressive AF, really feels like you leveled up the double bob interactions. also im judging your messy desktop so hard.
You should test the deadzones on the joysticks whenever you make videos about 3rd party controllers because for me thats the most important part that makes or breaks a controller. I say this because I typically find that with a lot of these 3rd party controllers the sticks have large deadzones and really make the controller feel cheap and unresponsive.
This is one of my major issues with the original Hori Split Pad. The joysticks feel nice but they have a huge deadzone, to the point where I can't play games like Hades that require precise inputs because I feel like I'm steering a boat when I move around. Too bad the sticks on my joycons keep drifting and Nintendo refuses to acknowledge the issue
@@adrianpadin1840 I had the same problem but with the 8bitdo ps4 styled controller and its even worse on larger controllers since the sticks are physically larger and have to be moved further making the problem even more noticeable. I ended up returning the controller and just using nintendos first party controller because it bothered me so much which sucks because I love the extra features like back buttons and additional profiles as well as the ergonomics of some of these controllers. Its just hard to justify buying these when one of if not the main thing you use to play most games and even browse the menus is of such poor quality.
@@Maybe_Saber a little late now that you returned it, but you can adjust the deadzone on sn30 pro and pro+ with a special software on 8bitdo's website.
The Binbok joysticks had a different issue wherein they didn’t actually track motion in a 360 circle. It was like they were just being processed as dpads by the controller. No such issue with the Hori Split Pad Pro.
@@user-xn3kt6bn5r I actually had tried it and it was like there was still a 5% deadzone even when set to 0% so when actually set to 5% it was more like 10% and I even went and returned it for another one and same issue. It was awhile ago and I don't really use my switch that much anymore but I still watch wulf den and reviews from time to time. Just wish they would mention the joysticks and their quality considering they help market these controllers to an extent and bring in sales. Feels misleading sometimes to hear how nice some of these can be just for one of the main components to be horrible because it's something they don't touch up on.
That throwing the package between eachother bit was crazy, I see what you did inspecting closely after a few rewatches but definitely got me enough to make this comment
The nubs you cut off are there to stabilize the controller so it doesn't flex the rails if you push on them. Blocks it from bending past a certain point. Adds a bit of a feeling of rigidity. Probably not necessary
I bought the binbok controllers after seeing them in one of your videos and I'm super happy with them. I always travel with them, because I only play portable when traveling, but then they double as my controller when I reach my travel destination and dock my switch (I travel with a portable dock). They're honestly great, and I don't know if they fixed the dpad issue you mentioned on your video about them, but the dpad feels just fine. Also fyi, I bought them on their website and it was fine. Shipped in about a week (to Europe). I haven't tried these, but to me paying the same as for the binbok without getting wireless and motion makes no sense
I'd just like to say that I love how this channel does not use clickbait titles or thumbnails and you don't yell or make wild, definitive claims like "THIS IS THE BEST EVER." Just informed, good reviews and ideas.
The nubs add twisting rigidity and make the switch feel a lot more like a single object rather than just 3 that are held together by the rails alone. They're not necessary, but they go a long way in making the switch feel more like a unit than without. I wish more large joycon used them.
That's why they extend horizontally. They extend outward to prevent flex along the seem when laid flat... as he demonstrated visually (contradicting his words) at 10:00
I like when you show off that you have a switch that's been on for a whole year. It's a small thing that exists somewhere in this universe, but fascinating (like "oh yeah that's still a thing that's happening.)
"It's FINE, it's PERFECT, NO REASON FOR THEM AT ALL" **immediately shows that pressing at the joint without those nubs can break the rail on the joy-con or the switch itself**
That’s why I like the Nexigo controller. All the comfort of the OG split pad pro, 4 back buttons that can be mapped to any button, gyro, and vibrate. Edit: I hadn’t finished watching the video. Not the Nexigo in this video, there is one that goes around the WHOLE switch, so it’s incredibly sturdy since it doesn’t use the joycon rails.
A couple of years ago I picked up a Satisfye Grip Pro Bundle. To me, this grip feels perfect for me. I can play for a few hours and my hands never get tired. No one asked me to promote their grip.
Several companies made cases to hold the Switch with the Split Pad attached. I bought one from ButterFox for @$20 called the "ButterFox Grip Carry Case for Hori Nintendo Switch Split Pad Pro Controller, Compatible with Nintendo Switch OLED Model".
The entire subject around motion controls is maddening because SO MUCH could be EASILY FIXED by the littlest bit of effort from all of these companies. PlayStation and Xbox have had gyro built into their controllers for years now but it’s rare to see them implemented in a practical way for any of their games (eg: all shooters) - they’re usually reduced to some useless feature in some odd title once in awhile. Nintendo is leading the charge and it’s pretty much expected now from their 1st party titles as well as ports brought over to the Switch, but then sometimes they just don’t follow all the way through like you mentioned. It’s the main reason I use a XIM Nexus gyro controller now to play Xbox/PS console shooting games instead of their own controllers. They could easily fix this by encouraging developers to implement them in all their games. Instead, XIM gets my money so I can fully enjoy my games. (Sorry for the ridiculously long rant)
The way the switch dips at 10:01 when joycon is pressed because nubs are missing x_X Those nubs are definitely there to avoid stress on the rails when Switch is placed flat on tablet for people that want to play touchscreen only games or lay it flat when minimal input is needed.
I was excited for these, but cancelled my pre order when i learned theres 0 rumble, for its price the lack of that single feature is a deal breaker. No batteries is an odd choice too because its not like its priced to be a "budget" option but there ARE controllers that fit that bill with way more bang for your buck.
my only issue ive had with my hori split was just that the plastic feels cheap, but thats about it. The other big complaint i've seen about it is regarding the fact that it solely works on handheld mode. That is a fair complaint especially given that some of the competition mentioned offers that feature but personally handheld was the sole reason why i bought it. I have a pro controller for when i play docked and I just wanted essentially the same style button and joycons for the handheld experience and thats what i got out of my hori split pad.
The nubs are for the bending of the switch when it is attached and will support the switch. see 10:00 the bend on that can damage the switch if was pressed withe enough presssure
yeah but the split pad pro joy cons dont drain basically any power from your switch compared to joy cons. any joy con with features like rumble or gyro, all drain a fuck ton of power constantly. they never stop recharging themselves while connected. and they draw all that power from the switch. which means they recharge from the switch over and over and over.....which is STUPID. i noticed a HUGE difference with the split pad pro. battery lasted A LONG time
The editing for the ad was actually really good man. I had to really look to notice the splices when you are tossing the damn thing back and forth. Takes a lot of time to do that brah
I thin the nubs prevent it from flexing along the sheer line along the rails, as seen when you press down on the switch after removing them. I love my RetroFlag Gamecube Grip because it has the fill back to keep everything rigid. I've palyed my OG Swtich 75% in portable mode with just joycons until about a year ago when suddenly no joycons woul stay connected because of strain on that connection. So I'm happy to now be able to use mine portably again.
Notice @ 10:02 the flex of the joint when pressing down on the the + button that is what the lil nubs are for that were cut off since the split pad adds more height then normal joy cons that micro movement adds up overtime... My best guess
I had been contemplating getting the split pad pro for a while now but they were always sold out at my store. When I went in recently they had more of the pros and just got in stock the split pad compact. I picked up the compact ones and so far I am very happy with them. Very comfortable, I like the d pad, the mappable back buttons are handy and the turbo is super handy for animal crossing (makes crafting in bulk so much easier). Would recommend.
You did a great job illustrating the need for those nubs after you took them off. You will eventually flex the Switch, causing the rails of the Split Pad Fit to break.
Just got this split pad to use on certain games. I play games using the d-pad about 80% of the time. The d-pad on this thing is just about perfect. If you use the d-pad like I do, you will know what I’m talking about. I own three awesome 8bitdo controllers which I absolutely LOVE, and the d-pads on those aren’t as good as this one. Hint: try playing a Mario game climbing a ladder or a vine, if you SLIGHTLY lean your thumb to the left or right while holding true up or down, most all d-pads will take the input as right/left and you’ll fall off the vine/ladder. Great trick to test any d-pad. 👍 Anyway, another great video on this channel! 🙏
I like your reviews of these things so much though. Always seem to point out the deal breakers as well. I've been watching those and wondering whether they are wireless. I do play on the TV often, so I want wireless support. Other reviews I saw only focused on what it CAN do. Would have been unfortunate to order this, ship international, pay duties, and then can't play wireless. Respect man.
Props on the Ad btw. The editing on Bob throwing the food thing back and forth is really clean. I like these joycons a lot, very nice design and form factor but no wireless is a no go for me tbh. I play the switch 50/50 portable/docked so I like to just be able to pull the joycons off and use them as a controller so it "feels" the same. Also can't play No More Heroes. I have the binbok but they got drift on them after like six months. Need to try to fix them, I liked them a good bit even though they don't feel super high quality.
I mostly play the Switch docked, but I love the Split Pad Pro when I do play in handheld. I just wish they had rumble. Hori does make hard cases for the Switch that fits the SPP (and the Compact would probably fit just fine too).
The reason the controllers have those nubs on the back is so the remappable buttons on the back are not presses. I can’t remember where I heard that but I saw a video about the controllers that say that
In the beginning of the video I realised I wasn't interested in learning about joy-con replacements (I've just got a Steam Deck), but I still went over the first minute because I really like watching his ads 😄
I still use my Hori Split Pad Pro since 2018. It's one of my favourite feeling controllers of all time. Love it's Dpad, the joystick's feel great and is comfortable to use for many-many hours. I don't need to by a new one.
If you want something more compact, the binbok V2 or slim is the way to go. I own both the binbok v1 and v2 (under a different brand name but they're really the same thing) and the v2 is only a bit bigger than the original joycon, but with a bump on the back, wireless, rgb, and vibration. It doesnt have a back button like the v1 binbok but it's much more portable. I wish Bob would review those
I just want something that is no compromises ergo for handheld only. Hall effect sticks, maybe even hall effect triggers, Dpad and buttons like 8bitdo's, gyro, and maybe even make it a type c connection like the retroflag where both "joycons" are actually connected so you don't have to worry about charging it.
6:28 - You can remap button layouts in the Switch settings to solve this. So, for example if I wanted B to be on the extra back button of the Left controller, I'd remap the camera button to function as B in the Switch options (bypassing the inability to map buttons from the right to left, because B is now mapped onto the left controller!). Then map the camera button (now functioning as another B button) to the button on the back of the left controller. Voila! You lose the ability to screen shot with this method but I rarely if ever use it.
People say the nubs are for laying the switch flat. The nubs keep the large controllers from weighing down and damaging the joy con rails on the switch itself
I prefer the Joy-Cons in portable mode for the more relaxed story-based games where I'm going to benefit a lot from HD Rumble when it comes to immersion. A good example is Kentucky Route Zero (excellent game by the way). For more intense gameplay, I just want something that's going to allow me to play the best I can. For instance, the Split Pad Pro is my preferred way to play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. The feel of the triggers really works for me in that game, and those smooth analog sticks make for some easy and precise steering with the left one. Gotta say, I'm digging the gray and yellow for the Split Pad Compact. I know there's an all-red version too, but I prefer this one. I think it has kind of a retro vibe (maybe late '70s/early '80s). I wasn't going to get one since I already have the Split Pad Pro, but I might consider it if the buttons, analog sticks, and grip feel nicer. The BinBok controllers and ones like them are fine I guess, but they're a gamble when it comes to quality. I prefer going the officially licensed route with Hori's offerings.
Fantastic Factor video editing. I actually enjoy your work on the ads. This ad especially was so impressive I went back and re-watched the ad several times. I'm struggling with my meals and going to check out factor.
The reason for those nubs are to protect the switch. If you were to place something on the switch, they are designed to transfer the pressure to the housing of the switch itself, instead of to the joycon rails. You can see it flex at 10:00 when you press the button.
These things look pretty great. Now we just need binbok or someone to clone them and slap in gyro and rumble like they did with the split pad pro, and I'll actually want to scoop em up. I love the original binbok split pad clones.
I keep seeing new joycons and I really want to try them out but after looking at the reviews it just doesn't seem to be worth it. I'm pretty surprised. I didn't think it was going to be as impactful as it has been. But handheld mode with my satisfied grip has just been an overall really pleasurable experience.
It would be awesome if 8BitDo would create joycons. They'd probably put the d-pad above the left analogue stick like they do with most of their controllers which would help a lot with the ergonomics when playing 2D games with the d-pad.
During the factor commercial I got to say great choice of toaster ovens or whatever the heck it is. The interior lines and curves was a great choice for a visual presentation. You guys know what you're doing. Even if you act like you're not....lol
I think the nubs in the back are to hold the switch up against the dock when docked so it is not resting on the USB port only as I'm sure some people are very rough putting their switch into and out of the dock and this helps minimize damage to the USB C port.
If you want to make the switch better for bigger hands just buy a satisfy grip and call it a day. Best accessory ever released. Now if they'd just make one for the steam deck
Bro you're editing skills are amazing that really look like you were passing that back and forth to yourself even when the package would rotate in the air only one that looked a little funny was the very first throw other than that that looks Flawless man how did you do it seriously that's one of the reasons I lost your channel is because you're editing style is very unique your personality is very unique you're very smart and you're the one who got me into Retro Gaming dead serious so yeah I'm kind of a super fan of your Channel
Originally got the binbok joycons and they were way too plastic-y feeling, also the A,B,X,Y didn't feel great. The Nexigo came up on sale at one point for ~$30 and decided to try it, and it's so much better. -there's no flat spot to stand it up on the bottom of the (grip nub) but the buttons feel so much better and I actually prefer the flat buttons, not sure if it's because they have less travel as well or what but def feels better. If I played more in handheld and didn't want wireless i'd have probably got these when I saw them.
For portable mode on the Switch, I personally think there is no better option than the Fixture S1 (if you already own a Pro Controller). The standard setup for the Steam Deck and Switch is just so awkward to hold. It's like holding up a keyboard with a screen. Attaching new controllers like the one featured in this video help, but it still feels so long. The fixture S1 is just freaking perfect because I can continue to hold a controller like I have been for 30+ years. I PRAY that Fixture or some other company releases some more comfortable way to hold the Steam Deck portably.
Does anyone know if the binbok controllers have good dead zones on the thumb sticks? Every knock off controller I’ve bought for the switch has terrible dead zones. That’s the main reason I use the Split Pad Pro.
Its funny, that right as you were trying to say that cutting off the nubs was "fine" you showed exactly the reason for them. Support. Without those nubs, if you do set it down, the connection point is way more susceptible to damage and flex.
I have both the bulky and the compact ones, I love theeeeem, he mentioned about the competitor being able to do wireless, the downfall for me on those is that those cannot be charged by the console they have to charged separately 😭
For me personally. These are amazing, my joy con drift is really bad so much that I’ve stopped playing handheld entirely because it’s impossible to play. The joy cons don’t feel all that comfortable in my hands anyway so these will be a worth while upgrade
But I really want to know how you got that box to rotate in between the frames like that and make it look Flawless bro it really looks like your twin brother sitting there throwing that box with you if it wasn't for the very first throw the Box looking a little glitchy people would really think that you had a twin brother bro
Use code YAHUNGRY60 to get 60% off your first Factor box at bit.ly/3BRGJIZ
is it joy-con or joy-cons?
How the hell did you toss the box to yourself?? Your ads are next level!!
No mention of the Coiorvis Joycons? Shame. They're better than all of these.
Have you tried gutting a switch joycon and installing it in that larger joycon soldering required custom PCV cables to mod it, anyways make your own and give 5% for the idea lol
Funnily enough I just found Factor the other week from Facebook. I had a home cooked meal last night and found I already couldn’t eat as big of portions as I used to. I already feel different in 2 weeks of use. Has anyone else used these meals and had changes this fast? These meals aren’t frozen so it actually tastes good. I highly recommend the juices. I’m not sponsored, but give it a try!
Those "knobs" are to avoid aplying all the weight of the console to the slides when is laying on a surface, instead to apply it to the main body that is more sturdy, you even can see how it flexed when you pushed it down slightly.🙃
"Eyy see its fixed*
>Pressed down causing the console to flex like half an inch
yeah, but it looks horrible
In all honesty tho.... It wouldn't be much of a detriment due to nearly every other joycon alternatives doesn't have those nubs. It's more of a precautions to ensure the switch would have more support than it otherwise wouldn't regularly have.
@@mathdantastav2496 So what? Better look "horrible" than compromising the joycon slides' integrity.
@@emperorfaiz sure, but it looks horrible.
Id rather have something that feels decent on the hand, and doesnt look awfull
100% DO NOT remove those nubs, they stop the screen flexing & prevent stress on the Joy-Con rails. Great video, Bob!
You can clearly see the whole thing flexing stupidly at 10:00
COME ON BOB WHY YOU GO AND BREAK A GREAT PRODUCT 🤦♂
9:45 Those nubs are designed to stop the controllers from flexing against the screen assembly. DO NOT REMOVE THEM! Doing so can irreparably damage the tracks and connections the joy-cons attach too.
YEP! You can see at 10:02 when he applies slight pressure, the whole thing bends now without em. haha
Can actually confirm I had some bin boks and they broke the rail of the switch
That would explain the issues I was having with my Nexigo pads.
Was, because the constant disconnects made me switch back to my Hori Split Pad Pros. Thankfully, didn't seem to have caused any (noticable) permanent damage.
I think the nubs are to relieve pressure on the joycon rail when the switch is sitting flat, because after you sheered them off, when you pushed a button the connection between the splitpad and the switch bent noticibly
Yes. There clearly there for a reason. Lmao....but when u can just up and buy another switch oled no problem....who cares apparently....
@@packers12to80 yeah, that was a pretty questionable move
this was already mentioned in *comments previous controllers with the same nubs, yet he completely missed it the first time /facepalm
The fact that he took off the nubs like that... Im less willing to trust these reviews
Ok, because it was so good I just feel like people aren't going to mention it. The work that went into that ad. Throwing the package back and forth. That was seamless! Deserves mad props.
The ads in these videos are often so great, I find myself wanting a Wulffden ad compilation =p
Bob nails it so often with the ads
Probably the only channel where I don't skip through the paid sponsorship lol
Everyone has mentioned it
i seriously think he has a clone now. i have no idea how he did that.
Bob always does something INSANE in every video like “modifying” brand new controllers by dismembering them. Pretty sure those ”nubs” help stabilization when slightly flexing the controllers in handheld mode
The connection actually bended a little bit when he pressed a button after removing the nubs. Freaked out a little.
@@mistermastermind528 His controller will be broken in a month of regular use, guaranteed.
People are probably right that those knobs are to protect the joycon rails from extra pressure, but it seems like theyd also be a useful grip when you press the release button to slide the controllers off.
Looks like the nubs prevent the Switch from getting warped when it's laying flat. I wouldn't recommend removing them based on comparing the footage in this video from before and after they were removed. The Switch bends noticably more after their removal when Bob presses the buttons as a demonstration.
Loved that seamless editing for the ad!
Video's great too. :)
I believe that nub on the controller is used to support the Switch console when playing to prevent the Joy-Con rail became loose over time.
damm, the editing for this ad is impressive AF, really feels like you leveled up the double bob interactions. also im judging your messy desktop so hard.
Sir those are two different people
You should test the deadzones on the joysticks whenever you make videos about 3rd party controllers because for me thats the most important part that makes or breaks a controller. I say this because I typically find that with a lot of these 3rd party controllers the sticks have large deadzones and really make the controller feel cheap and unresponsive.
This is one of my major issues with the original Hori Split Pad. The joysticks feel nice but they have a huge deadzone, to the point where I can't play games like Hades that require precise inputs because I feel like I'm steering a boat when I move around. Too bad the sticks on my joycons keep drifting and Nintendo refuses to acknowledge the issue
@@adrianpadin1840 I had the same problem but with the 8bitdo ps4 styled controller and its even worse on larger controllers since the sticks are physically larger and have to be moved further making the problem even more noticeable. I ended up returning the controller and just using nintendos first party controller because it bothered me so much which sucks because I love the extra features like back buttons and additional profiles as well as the ergonomics of some of these controllers. Its just hard to justify buying these when one of if not the main thing you use to play most games and even browse the menus is of such poor quality.
@@Maybe_Saber a little late now that you returned it, but you can adjust the deadzone on sn30 pro and pro+ with a special software on 8bitdo's website.
The Binbok joysticks had a different issue wherein they didn’t actually track motion in a 360 circle. It was like they were just being processed as dpads by the controller. No such issue with the Hori Split Pad Pro.
@@user-xn3kt6bn5r I actually had tried it and it was like there was still a 5% deadzone even when set to 0% so when actually set to 5% it was more like 10% and I even went and returned it for another one and same issue. It was awhile ago and I don't really use my switch that much anymore but I still watch wulf den and reviews from time to time. Just wish they would mention the joysticks and their quality considering they help market these controllers to an extent and bring in sales. Feels misleading sometimes to hear how nice some of these can be just for one of the main components to be horrible because it's something they don't touch up on.
That throwing the package between eachother bit was crazy, I see what you did inspecting closely after a few rewatches but definitely got me enough to make this comment
I had to watch the AD again frame by frame because it was so smooth.
The nubs you cut off are there to stabilize the controller so it doesn't flex the rails if you push on them. Blocks it from bending past a certain point. Adds a bit of a feeling of rigidity. Probably not necessary
I bought the binbok controllers after seeing them in one of your videos and I'm super happy with them.
I always travel with them, because I only play portable when traveling, but then they double as my controller when I reach my travel destination and dock my switch (I travel with a portable dock).
They're honestly great, and I don't know if they fixed the dpad issue you mentioned on your video about them, but the dpad feels just fine.
Also fyi, I bought them on their website and it was fine. Shipped in about a week (to Europe).
I haven't tried these, but to me paying the same as for the binbok without getting wireless and motion makes no sense
Bob's product spots just keep getting better. Better than most of the adds I skip past and way better than the ones I'm not able to skip.
I'm still amazed on how you got the factor box to hit other Bob twice and edited that seamlessly
I'd just like to say that I love how this channel does not use clickbait titles or thumbnails and you don't yell or make wild, definitive claims like "THIS IS THE BEST EVER." Just informed, good reviews and ideas.
The nubs add twisting rigidity and make the switch feel a lot more like a single object rather than just 3 that are held together by the rails alone. They're not necessary, but they go a long way in making the switch feel more like a unit than without. I wish more large joycon used them.
That's why they extend horizontally. They extend outward to prevent flex along the seem when laid flat... as he demonstrated visually (contradicting his words) at 10:00
I like when you show off that you have a switch that's been on for a whole year. It's a small thing that exists somewhere in this universe, but fascinating (like "oh yeah that's still a thing that's happening.)
"It's FINE, it's PERFECT, NO REASON FOR THEM AT ALL"
**immediately shows that pressing at the joint without those nubs can break the rail on the joy-con or the switch itself**
That’s why I like the Nexigo controller. All the comfort of the OG split pad pro, 4 back buttons that can be mapped to any button, gyro, and vibrate. Edit: I hadn’t finished watching the video. Not the Nexigo in this video, there is one that goes around the WHOLE switch, so it’s incredibly sturdy since it doesn’t use the joycon rails.
I just got mine and I LOVE IT! I like that they're light because they make holding the switch comfier for me.
9:59 "It's fine"...
*Switch then stretches like crazy when pushed on*
A couple of years ago I picked up a
Satisfye Grip Pro Bundle. To me, this grip feels perfect for me. I can play for a few hours and my hands never get tired.
No one asked me to promote their grip.
Several companies made cases to hold the Switch with the Split Pad attached. I bought one from ButterFox for @$20 called the "ButterFox Grip Carry Case for Hori Nintendo Switch Split Pad Pro Controller, Compatible with Nintendo Switch OLED Model".
The frustrating part about the motion controls is knowing that the Switch tablet DOES have motion controls, and they just didn't botter using it.
The entire subject around motion controls is maddening because SO MUCH could be EASILY FIXED by the littlest bit of effort from all of these companies.
PlayStation and Xbox have had gyro built into their controllers for years now but it’s rare to see them implemented in a practical way for any of their games (eg: all shooters) - they’re usually reduced to some useless feature in some odd title once in awhile.
Nintendo is leading the charge and it’s pretty much expected now from their 1st party titles as well as ports brought over to the Switch, but then sometimes they just don’t follow all the way through like you mentioned.
It’s the main reason I use a XIM Nexus gyro controller now to play Xbox/PS console shooting games instead of their own controllers. They could easily fix this by encouraging developers to implement them in all their games. Instead, XIM gets my money so I can fully enjoy my games.
(Sorry for the ridiculously long rant)
@@mymusicaljesus Xbox controllers do not have gyro.
@@mymusicaljesus Xbox do not have gyro
@@Eduardo-ig6qm @TheNekOz - My bad. Assumed that they had gyro already built-in to their controllers as well. I was wrong.
10:02 So I think they exist so when you press buttons while its lying flat you don't stress the slides of joy-cons to not brake or damage them.
The compacts buttons seem just like the lites which are perfect to me I miss them when I got my oled and they were more clicky.
The way the switch dips at 10:01 when joycon is pressed because nubs are missing x_X
Those nubs are definitely there to avoid stress on the rails when Switch is placed flat on tablet for people that want to play touchscreen only games or lay it flat when minimal input is needed.
Nintendo could just use the gyro INSIDE THE TABLET ITSELF. You can play Quake with Hori Split Pads and Gyro controls but not Splatoon 2/3. Why???
I was excited for these, but cancelled my pre order when i learned theres 0 rumble, for its price the lack of that single feature is a deal breaker. No batteries is an odd choice too because its not like its priced to be a "budget" option but there ARE controllers that fit that bill with way more bang for your buck.
I would like to see a joystick accuracy test and comparison compared to the joycons, and the switch pro controller.
my only issue ive had with my hori split was just that the plastic feels cheap, but thats about it. The other big complaint i've seen about it is regarding the fact that it solely works on handheld mode. That is a fair complaint especially given that some of the competition mentioned offers that feature but personally handheld was the sole reason why i bought it. I have a pro controller for when i play docked and I just wanted essentially the same style button and joycons for the handheld experience and thats what i got out of my hori split pad.
The nubs are for the bending of the switch when it is attached and will support the switch. see 10:00 the bend on that can damage the switch if was pressed withe enough presssure
yeah but the split pad pro joy cons dont drain basically any power from your switch compared to joy cons. any joy con with features like rumble or gyro, all drain a fuck ton of power constantly. they never stop recharging themselves while connected. and they draw all that power from the switch. which means they recharge from the switch over and over and over.....which is STUPID. i noticed a HUGE difference with the split pad pro. battery lasted A LONG time
The editing for the ad was actually really good man. I had to really look to notice the splices when you are tossing the damn thing back and forth. Takes a lot of time to do that brah
Bob, your sponsor ads are so entertaining and professional.
I thin the nubs prevent it from flexing along the sheer line along the rails, as seen when you press down on the switch after removing them.
I love my RetroFlag Gamecube Grip because it has the fill back to keep everything rigid. I've palyed my OG Swtich 75% in portable mode with just joycons until about a year ago when suddenly no joycons woul stay connected because of strain on that connection. So I'm happy to now be able to use mine portably again.
Notice @ 10:02 the flex of the joint when pressing down on the the + button that is what the lil nubs are for that were cut off since the split pad adds more height then normal joy cons that micro movement adds up overtime... My best guess
I still use my Daemon x machina hori split pad pro since the day I got them, they never gave me any problems with drift unlike the regular joycons.
I had been contemplating getting the split pad pro for a while now but they were always sold out at my store. When I went in recently they had more of the pros and just got in stock the split pad compact. I picked up the compact ones and so far I am very happy with them. Very comfortable, I like the d pad, the mappable back buttons are handy and the turbo is super handy for animal crossing (makes crafting in bulk so much easier). Would recommend.
You did a great job illustrating the need for those nubs after you took them off. You will eventually flex the Switch, causing the rails of the Split Pad Fit to break.
Just got this split pad to use on certain games. I play games using the d-pad about 80% of the time. The d-pad on this thing is just about perfect. If you use the d-pad like I do, you will know what I’m talking about. I own three awesome 8bitdo controllers which I absolutely LOVE, and the d-pads on those aren’t as good as this one.
Hint: try playing a Mario game climbing a ladder or a vine, if you SLIGHTLY lean your thumb to the left or right while holding true up or down, most all d-pads will take the input as right/left and you’ll fall off the vine/ladder.
Great trick to test any d-pad. 👍
Anyway, another great video on this channel! 🙏
I like your reviews of these things so much though. Always seem to point out the deal breakers as well. I've been watching those and wondering whether they are wireless. I do play on the TV often, so I want wireless support.
Other reviews I saw only focused on what it CAN do. Would have been unfortunate to order this, ship international, pay duties, and then can't play wireless.
Respect man.
Props on the Ad btw. The editing on Bob throwing the food thing back and forth is really clean.
I like these joycons a lot, very nice design and form factor but no wireless is a no go for me tbh. I play the switch 50/50 portable/docked so I like to just be able to pull the joycons off and use them as a controller so it "feels" the same. Also can't play No More Heroes.
I have the binbok but they got drift on them after like six months. Need to try to fix them, I liked them a good bit even though they don't feel super high quality.
I mostly play the Switch docked, but I love the Split Pad Pro when I do play in handheld. I just wish they had rumble. Hori does make hard cases for the Switch that fits the SPP (and the Compact would probably fit just fine too).
I think those knobs helped with the play the original joy cons have that make them wiggle around, which I prefer it not to have that play.
The reason the controllers have those nubs on the back is so the remappable buttons on the back are not presses. I can’t remember where I heard that but I saw a video about the controllers that say that
would be interesting to see the input lag differnce between the hori split pad, and those others you mentioned.
In the beginning of the video I realised I wasn't interested in learning about joy-con replacements (I've just got a Steam Deck), but I still went over the first minute because I really like watching his ads 😄
I really enjoyed the Factor ad in this one. Loved the back and forth bit.
I still use my Hori Split Pad Pro since 2018.
It's one of my favourite feeling controllers of all time. Love it's Dpad, the joystick's feel great and is comfortable to use for many-many hours. I don't need to by a new one.
I still use those exact ones in the beginning
I heard the “knubs” are for stabilizing into a dock.
I really wish Nintendo or 8bitdo would make some full featured pro style joy-cons
1:55 thats some great editing there I almost forgot that they were the same person
If you want something more compact, the binbok V2 or slim is the way to go. I own both the binbok v1 and v2 (under a different brand name but they're really the same thing) and the v2 is only a bit bigger than the original joycon, but with a bump on the back, wireless, rgb, and vibration. It doesnt have a back button like the v1 binbok but it's much more portable. I wish Bob would review those
I just want something that is no compromises ergo for handheld only. Hall effect sticks, maybe even hall effect triggers, Dpad and buttons like 8bitdo's, gyro, and maybe even make it a type c connection like the retroflag where both "joycons" are actually connected so you don't have to worry about charging it.
@textmeontelegramwulffden7753 piss off you bot
6:28 - You can remap button layouts in the Switch settings to solve this. So, for example if I wanted B to be on the extra back button of the Left controller, I'd remap the camera button to function as B in the Switch options (bypassing the inability to map buttons from the right to left, because B is now mapped onto the left controller!). Then map the camera button (now functioning as another B button) to the button on the back of the left controller. Voila!
You lose the ability to screen shot with this method but I rarely if ever use it.
You can only remap on the Joycons and Pro-Controller.
@@julianx2rl I mean, sure but I have the binbok and the galaxy controller shown and I can map buttons from the right onto the left. *shrug
i think the nubs on the back are for reduced stress on the switch rail where the joy con hold in place when the switch is flat on a surface.
People say the nubs are for laying the switch flat. The nubs keep the large controllers from weighing down and damaging the joy con rails on the switch itself
I prefer the Joy-Cons in portable mode for the more relaxed story-based games where I'm going to benefit a lot from HD Rumble when it comes to immersion. A good example is Kentucky Route Zero (excellent game by the way).
For more intense gameplay, I just want something that's going to allow me to play the best I can. For instance, the Split Pad Pro is my preferred way to play Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. The feel of the triggers really works for me in that game, and those smooth analog sticks make for some easy and precise steering with the left one.
Gotta say, I'm digging the gray and yellow for the Split Pad Compact. I know there's an all-red version too, but I prefer this one. I think it has kind of a retro vibe (maybe late '70s/early '80s). I wasn't going to get one since I already have the Split Pad Pro, but I might consider it if the buttons, analog sticks, and grip feel nicer.
The BinBok controllers and ones like them are fine I guess, but they're a gamble when it comes to quality. I prefer going the officially licensed route with Hori's offerings.
9:34 maybe they are kinda like drop bumpers that absorb some of the impact idk just first thing that comes to mind
Fantastic Factor video editing. I actually enjoy your work on the ads. This ad especially was so impressive I went back and re-watched the ad several times. I'm struggling with my meals and going to check out factor.
2:04 James Cameron couldn't pull off CGI that smooth
The reason for those nubs are to protect the switch. If you were to place something on the switch, they are designed to transfer the pressure to the housing of the switch itself, instead of to the joycon rails. You can see it flex at 10:00 when you press the button.
These things look pretty great. Now we just need binbok or someone to clone them and slap in gyro and rumble like they did with the split pad pro, and I'll actually want to scoop em up. I love the original binbok split pad clones.
I keep seeing new joycons and I really want to try them out but after looking at the reviews it just doesn't seem to be worth it. I'm pretty surprised. I didn't think it was going to be as impactful as it has been. But handheld mode with my satisfied grip has just been an overall really pleasurable experience.
the editing of the ad segment is on a wholeother level
only TH-camrs ads I watch all the way through, just to admire the editing wizardry
The bit where he’s throwing the factor meal to himself and catching it is super impressive
That high five "chefs kiss" perfection 😂
It would be awesome if 8BitDo would create joycons. They'd probably put the d-pad above the left analogue stick like they do with most of their controllers which would help a lot with the ergonomics when playing 2D games with the d-pad.
I am really looking for this but there's still none until now.
During the factor commercial I got to say great choice of toaster ovens or whatever the heck it is. The interior lines and curves was a great choice for a visual presentation. You guys know what you're doing. Even if you act like you're not....lol
I had to slow down the video all the way down the 0.25 speed to see how in the hell did you do that package throwing bit in the ad. Really impressive!
I think the nubs in the back are to hold the switch up against the dock when docked so it is not resting on the USB port only as I'm sure some people are very rough putting their switch into and out of the dock and this helps minimize damage to the USB C port.
props on the toss back and forth, very nice job
If you want to make the switch better for bigger hands just buy a satisfy grip and call it a day. Best accessory ever released. Now if they'd just make one for the steam deck
Bro you're editing skills are amazing that really look like you were passing that back and forth to yourself even when the package would rotate in the air only one that looked a little funny was the very first throw other than that that looks Flawless man how did you do it seriously that's one of the reasons I lost your channel is because you're editing style is very unique your personality is very unique you're very smart and you're the one who got me into Retro Gaming dead serious so yeah I'm kind of a super fan of your Channel
Originally got the binbok joycons and they were way too plastic-y feeling, also the A,B,X,Y didn't feel great.
The Nexigo came up on sale at one point for ~$30 and decided to try it, and it's so much better. -there's no flat spot to stand it up on the bottom of the (grip nub) but the buttons feel so much better and I actually prefer the flat buttons, not sure if it's because they have less travel as well or what but def feels better.
If I played more in handheld and didn't want wireless i'd have probably got these when I saw them.
For portable mode on the Switch, I personally think there is no better option than the Fixture S1 (if you already own a Pro Controller). The standard setup for the Steam Deck and Switch is just so awkward to hold. It's like holding up a keyboard with a screen. Attaching new controllers like the one featured in this video help, but it still feels so long. The fixture S1 is just freaking perfect because I can continue to hold a controller like I have been for 30+ years.
I PRAY that Fixture or some other company releases some more comfortable way to hold the Steam Deck portably.
i like the Satisfy grip becasue it does not put any stress on the joy con rails becasue of the back bar
I have the original solutions split pad and I got a case to fit the switch with them. So it’s kinda hard for me to want to do that all over again.
Does anyone know if the binbok controllers have good dead zones on the thumb sticks? Every knock off controller I’ve bought for the switch has terrible dead zones. That’s the main reason I use the Split Pad Pro.
I have the regular controller version, not the joycon version, but it hasn’t had any problems at all for me so far.
It brought back switch gaming for me. I got tired of the split pad pro. Am I alone?
AliExpress YS14 joy con. I paid 30 bucks and got them in under 2 weeks. They are the most recent or upgraded version of the BinBok joy cons.
Its funny, that right as you were trying to say that cutting off the nubs was "fine" you showed exactly the reason for them. Support. Without those nubs, if you do set it down, the connection point is way more susceptible to damage and flex.
cutting off the nubs will be the first thing i do when i get these after making sure they work.
Big props to Wulffy over here doing cinema-quality editing in the ad! I'm literally starting to suspect he's hiding his twin from us!
Guess bob uses his desktop for all his files, 2 screens almost totally full of icons, impressive really
Opinions aside - Bob has been building a strong portfolio for commercial marketing design.
1:25 vibing to the KK Slider
I have both the bulky and the compact ones, I love theeeeem, he mentioned about the competitor being able to do wireless, the downfall for me on those is that those cannot be charged by the console they have to charged separately 😭
For me personally. These are amazing, my joy con drift is really bad so much that I’ve stopped playing handheld entirely because it’s impossible to play. The joy cons don’t feel all that comfortable in my hands anyway so these will be a worth while upgrade
The split pads fit perfect in my Mumba case also don’t cut the knobs off 😂
But I really want to know how you got that box to rotate in between the frames like that and make it look Flawless bro it really looks like your twin brother sitting there throwing that box with you if it wasn't for the very first throw the Box looking a little glitchy people would really think that you had a twin brother bro
I don't know why so many seem to recommend the binbok/nyxii etc. Every single unit has a huge deadzone that is a hardware issue.