@@zoteck9177 Really? Wow! That's so nice, bro! Thanks for this, it means a lot to me. I've been trying to figure out whether I was a bass or a bass baritone or just a baritone.
He's just a low baritone (I'm a bass aswell my lowest chest is G1 sometimes on a good day I have a low F I'd prolly say ur more a of a bass baritone but in a choir setting u could definitely sing bass)
@@genesedetrombonese3876 on second thought. I think its chest, but it was shaky which made me think its fry. But i think after listening it a few times over. It is chest
I'm a baritone as well and my chest range is d2-a4 so I think that even though my voice is naturally quite low it's more tenor than baritone when I sing.
Ok I know I found this video late, but nice! I'm a low baritone myself with a B1 as my lowest chest note, so it's nice to find another baritone like myself get so low!
I haven't even felt this time passing by, thx for respond, I had one day I sang G1 but now I have stopped training and it's again somewhere between C2-D2.
@@genesedetrombonese3876 if you don't mind, could you try uploading at least a chest voice Bb1 sometime soon? I'd like to see if it's actually chest or not (the C#2 in this video is 100% chest voice, btw)
People often don’t realize that vocal fry is not a hard flip, and gradually comes in as the voice goes lower when trying to attempt to support it. This often leads people to believe they have a lot lower of a practical range than they really do. The last note here is a pretty even mix of fry and chest and becomes more fried as it’s held out either because it’s not suited for the voice, or not approached with good vocal choices and technique. One must think about where the effort comes from in the body and where all the different resonating spaces within the face and throat are positioned when trying to achieve practical useable notes this low. As well as a ton of air that is incredibly consistent.
Yep, that was a chest-fry note. He has very good supported fry, so it sounds good, but is definitely not a pure chest note. Which, to be honest, I don't understand why people worry about a note being pure chest or not... it seems like a measure of machismo. If it sounds good, I couldn't care less which technique is being used.
@@johndeeregreen4592 I agree completely. The pitch itself being produced isn’t what’s impressive. Just about anyone can fry whatever note you want, what’s rare and valuable is producing good proper, pitch accurate, tone down in those ranges. Even more so a bass that can sing a bass part like it’s a melody. It should sound easy! :)
@@johndeeregreen4592 Yeah it is only about sound, if it's good idc how it was done, it's just more impressive in Chest, though if you can fry very well isn't it even more impressive then just being born with a low voice
Naturally, I am very much a bass with a Bb1, sometimes an A1, as my lowest chest note. But because I do musical theater my range has been forced to extend upwards so somehow I have a G4 in chest too The voice is weird, man
Hmmm... -simplest 5th up 4th up 4th down 5th down on long notes and one breath chromaticly half step lower series, like C3 G3 C4 G3 C3....,B2 F#3 B3 F#3 B2...., Bb2 F3 Bb3 F3 Bb2...., and so on to the moment u feel ur low notes starts to become vocal fry, then u make short break and restart from C, u should use "O" (as in h(o)t or "A" as in f(u)n )a vowel articulation like no-no-no-no-no or do-do-do-do-do or na-na..., da-da-da, you do this exercise in both register analogically to extreme in high register, always remember to practice both low middle and top register.
@@genesedetrombonese3876 wow thats a lot thank you very much. do you have any videos on this or would you make a video about this to show it better? Also how will you tell you’re really using your chest voice and not another register such as vocal fry? I can hit really low notes in the first octave that sound like chest but I think they are subharmonics…
I also like to practice singing in the same way but using harmonic series and piano would be useful to this, I prefer singing from 2nd to 12th harmonic. Training harmonic series is crucial to hear of how basic chords sound. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harmonics_to_32.png For example C3 G3 C4 E4 G4 Bb4 C5 D5 E5 F4, E5, D5, C5,....C3, then same like previous exercise half step lower
Unfortunelatly as you can see I am quite multi-directed musician and as for now I am not planning to do these kind of videos and I don't have other videos of this kind. There is quite easy metod to hear if you use chest or fry/subharmonics register, fry and subharmonics produce a lot of upper harmonics so if you will record yourself on your phone (your phone need to have bad speaker xD) then if you will sing chest you won't hear much because chest is like low notes without much overtones and you will hear fry or subharmonics well because thay generate a lot of these harmonics, these raspiness, raspy timbre.
Ya me too when i warm up i get a clear E2 but only sometimes a quiet eb2 but you can sing many songs with that, practicing makes it more comfortable to sing these notes
With your range you can be a tenor trombone too 😅 and same with low range from Bb1 to E1 it's called pedal register (from organ pedals), these notes are quite unstable and you are also albo to play it only some days.
I can barely get down to A#1, but can comfortably hit a B1, no fry or growl, my range doesn't go very high in my natural voice, but with whistle notes, which I have trained myself to be able to do pretty easily, my range goes up to A6, and pretty rarely, a C7, making my range 4.8 to 5.17 octaves
@@buddhatortoise Thats awesome! I have made some progression from when I posted that comment. It's kinda crazy to say now but I can pretty comfortably go down to a C1 in subharmonics. I have also been working on my chest voice and can get just about up to a D5 in chest thanks to my theatre work.
@@mania114 I can most comfortably hit F1 in subharmonics, and sometimes D1, and pretty rarely I can hit C#1, but comfortably hitting a C1 subharmonic is crazy! Good for you
Honestly, he sounds like a typical lyric baritone when he sings. I'm sorry but it's true. Nothing about his voice says dramatic. I'm a nice guy and all but I would be lying if I said he sounded like a heavier baritone.
I think it's more about general register, one in which you have best tessitura- timbre-sounding, I can sing those low notes through practice and they are relatively strong, but it's not really my comfort register and they just don't have much of those lower harmonics in sounding, same with Frank Sinatra, he could hit notes below E2, they were stable but you could just hear he wasn't bass, it was just extension of baritone timbre in low register.
@@genesedetrombonese3876 True. I have records of myself singing a powerful chest C2, and it does not make me a bass for this. Because this is absolutely not my comfort zone.
If you aquired, or should I say you were naturally gifted to have such a demanding skill, well then that's worthy of recognition in archives of the human history.
@@chukiri.93 yeah, bass-baritone belongs to baritone voice group, bass baritone have strong and well-speaking both bass and baritone range. C#2 is note that this kind of voice should produce and make it audiable on big opera scene. I can sing it close to mic, but without amplifier it would be too weak to pick it up even from middle chairs
@@genesedetrombonese3876 Seems like I possess the same voice as you, although I can't really tell whether I am drama. baritone or a bass-baritone. My voice is pretty dark 'n' deep, but definitely not as low as a 'true' bass or basso profondo. I sing very clear and good in the baritone range that's for sure, but my timbre seems to tend to the dark-sounding bottom.
@@chukiri.93 Dramatic baritone makes notes C2-A2 sound very low even tho they aren't so low comparing to basso profundo, every voice have diffrent timbre in diffrent registers, for example when woman is singing in low register, 3rd octave will sound lower comparing to baritone or tenor singing in the same register. Same with instruments, trumpet will sound "lower", more metalic in low register then trombone on same notes, every voice, every instrument has other roles depending on voice characteristics in certain register.
Well I have a choice 😎 Even if I do sth what is garbage for some people and is non-profitable for me in monetized matters I can still do it because I have a "choice". This is btw place were many adult people fails in their lifes, they slowly lose ability to have a "choice", you know focusing on career on this what is required by the labor market, focusing on doing these stuff what is trendy. Well, I am glad that I still have it, have a choice. 😁
Firstly I am not a vocalist so it was made for fun, but if I would be a vocalist I would use it to practice extremes so I could be more confident in middle register.
Finally I found a baritone like me.
My range is B1-E4. 😍😍😍😍😍👏👏👏
C2 is my favourite low note.
Ok your are a bass not baryton I’m a baryton and my range is F#2-G5
@@zoteck9177 Really? Wow! That's so nice, bro! Thanks for this, it means a lot to me. I've been trying to figure out whether I was a bass or a bass baritone or just a baritone.
ayo you got the same range as me only difference is that I'm a bass
He's just a low baritone (I'm a bass aswell my lowest chest is G1 sometimes on a good day I have a low F I'd prolly say ur more a of a bass baritone but in a choir setting u could definitely sing bass)
@@Daniel_Muniz I guess you're a high bass , im a high bass also ,my range are c2-E4
The last note sounded like fry to me. There was too much squeeze to it and very little chest resonance as i heard jt
Cool, that's your opinion
@@genesedetrombonese3876 just checked on a waveform. Its also very unstable which is usually a strong characterisc of a fry transition.
@@nightmare4eVerr1 Ok, but for me it is chest
Anyway, this is past, now I can sing A1
@@genesedetrombonese3876 on second thought. I think its chest, but it was shaky which made me think its fry.
But i think after listening it a few times over. It is chest
That's great, I'm also a baritone but the only low I can go is D2 and it's just airy lol
Saaaaaame
I'm a baritone as well and my chest range is d2-a4 so I think that even though my voice is naturally quite low it's more tenor than baritone when I sing.
my vocal range is from D2-A#4, my tessitura is from G2 to E4
Should I be a baritone?
@@annamariaghetu3113 im not an expert but propably ur baritone too.
nice tone
Thx
clean :)
as a bass i was finna be like "oh thats easy" but then i was like OH this is a baritone
Ok I know I found this video late, but nice! I'm a low baritone myself with a B1 as my lowest chest note, so it's nice to find another baritone like myself get so low!
I haven't even felt this time passing by, thx for respond, I had one day I sang G1 but now I have stopped training and it's again somewhere between C2-D2.
@@genesedetrombonese3876 if you don't mind, could you try uploading at least a chest voice Bb1 sometime soon? I'd like to see if it's actually chest or not (the C#2 in this video is 100% chest voice, btw)
I thought you said you were a bass lol.
Dang im jealous. I can only wish
U baritone?
I'm baritone but G2 is my lowest clean note. Any lower I have to do fry
People often don’t realize that vocal fry is not a hard flip, and gradually comes in as the voice goes lower when trying to attempt to support it. This often leads people to believe they have a lot lower of a practical range than they really do. The last note here is a pretty even mix of fry and chest and becomes more fried as it’s held out either because it’s not suited for the voice, or not approached with good vocal choices and technique. One must think about where the effort comes from in the body and where all the different resonating spaces within the face and throat are positioned when trying to achieve practical useable notes this low. As well as a ton of air that is incredibly consistent.
Yep, that was a chest-fry note. He has very good supported fry, so it sounds good, but is definitely not a pure chest note. Which, to be honest, I don't understand why people worry about a note being pure chest or not... it seems like a measure of machismo. If it sounds good, I couldn't care less which technique is being used.
@@johndeeregreen4592 I agree completely. The pitch itself being produced isn’t what’s impressive. Just about anyone can fry whatever note you want, what’s rare and valuable is producing good proper, pitch accurate, tone down in those ranges. Even more so a bass that can sing a bass part like it’s a melody. It should sound easy! :)
@@johndeeregreen4592 Yeah it is only about sound, if it's good idc how it was done, it's just more impressive in Chest, though if you can fry very well isn't it even more impressive then just being born with a low voice
Naturally, I am very much a bass with a Bb1, sometimes an A1, as my lowest chest note. But because I do musical theater my range has been forced to extend upwards so somehow I have a G4 in chest too
The voice is weird, man
Nice.
Nice
my range is F2~A5~Bb6, i ain't anything besides a tenor pfft
no, that was fried.
👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻
Nice! What are some exercises you do to work on low notes?
Hmmm...
-simplest 5th up 4th up 4th down 5th down on long notes and one breath chromaticly half step lower series, like C3 G3 C4 G3 C3....,B2 F#3 B3 F#3 B2...., Bb2 F3 Bb3 F3 Bb2...., and so on to the moment u feel ur low notes starts to become vocal fry, then u make short break and restart from C, u should use "O" (as in h(o)t or "A" as in f(u)n )a vowel articulation like no-no-no-no-no or do-do-do-do-do or na-na..., da-da-da, you do this exercise in both register analogically to extreme in high register, always remember to practice both low middle and top register.
@@genesedetrombonese3876
wow thats a lot thank you very much. do you have any videos on this or would you make a video about this to show it better?
Also how will you tell you’re really using your chest voice and not another register such as vocal fry? I can hit really low notes in the first octave that sound like chest but I think they are subharmonics…
I also like to practice singing in the same way but using harmonic series and piano would be useful to this, I prefer singing from 2nd to 12th harmonic. Training harmonic series is crucial to hear of how basic chords sound. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Harmonics_to_32.png
For example C3 G3 C4 E4 G4 Bb4 C5 D5 E5 F4, E5, D5, C5,....C3, then same like previous exercise half step lower
Unfortunelatly as you can see I am quite multi-directed musician and as for now I am not planning to do these kind of videos and I don't have other videos of this kind.
There is quite easy metod to hear if you use chest or fry/subharmonics register, fry and subharmonics produce a lot of upper harmonics so if you will record yourself on your phone (your phone need to have bad speaker xD) then if you will sing chest you won't hear much because chest is like low notes without much overtones and you will hear fry or subharmonics well because thay generate a lot of these harmonics, these raspiness, raspy timbre.
I mean this that most of phone speakers are unable to speak low frequencies well so you can use this as an advantage.
To me it seems like Fried Chest
That’s fry! :) specifically regular creaking with a subharmonic.
No its not.
I spend all day watching those low notes complitation and can say this sounds like chest
@@BangYongguk-sf8ly good for you bud.
Wow. I struggle to even get below e2. I have to take a deep breath and vocal fry it. 😅
Ya me too when i warm up i get a clear E2 but only sometimes a quiet eb2 but you can sing many songs with that, practicing makes it more comfortable to sing these notes
@tommax1626
Same with me. I can do a E2 with warmup.
And D#2 with morning voice.
Hoping my voice lowers. I just turned 20 btw.
@@BangYongguk-sf8ly suddenly everyone is comments gets to E2 easily ... while i have never hit a G#2 in my life
@@ivblizzard3616 I'm sure you should go down to at least C2 in chest voice a few times in your life.
@@bradycall1889 C2 how? It's very low for every baritone... even my C3 is kinda breathy
My chest vocal range is from Bb1 to Bb4 (some days I have been able to go down to F#1) and I think I am a Baritone:)
With your range you can be a tenor trombone too 😅 and same with low range from Bb1 to E1 it's called pedal register (from organ pedals), these notes are quite unstable and you are also albo to play it only some days.
@@genesedetrombonese3876 Ohh yes, my lowest grade has been an A-1 (below C0)
Lets go another baritone that can go bass low! My range is G1-A#5 and I rarely find fellow baritones that can dance around that low!
I too can go down to that G1! But I can't go that high lol I cap off abt a F#4
@@Bass68195 The miracles of getting obsessed with head voice for like a year got me to that A lmao
I can barely get down to A#1, but can comfortably hit a B1, no fry or growl, my range doesn't go very high in my natural voice, but with whistle notes, which I have trained myself to be able to do pretty easily, my range goes up to A6, and pretty rarely, a C7, making my range 4.8 to 5.17 octaves
@@buddhatortoise Thats awesome! I have made some progression from when I posted that comment. It's kinda crazy to say now but I can pretty comfortably go down to a C1 in subharmonics. I have also been working on my chest voice and can get just about up to a D5 in chest thanks to my theatre work.
@@mania114 I can most comfortably hit F1 in subharmonics, and sometimes D1, and pretty rarely I can hit C#1, but comfortably hitting a C1 subharmonic is crazy! Good for you
Nice voice, but who writes a D flat major triad like this?
Technically notes match pitch 😅
Update pls
are you a bass-baritone or a dramatic baritone?
Dramatic I guess, too weak on low notes without microphone amplification
Honestly, he sounds like a typical lyric baritone when he sings. I'm sorry but it's true. Nothing about his voice says dramatic. I'm a nice guy and all but I would be lying if I said he sounded like a heavier baritone.
@@bradycall1889 im prolly a lyric baritone and I sound very much lighter than this guy
@@ivblizzard3616 Interesting
@@bradycall1889 I can't go that low either ... my lowest is around Bb2
You're a basso centrale
友誼
Hey, maybe you're bass?
If you can go to E2 and below with powerful volume you're a bass if you hit E2 or below with weak and airy sound you're not a bass
I think it's more about general register, one in which you have best tessitura- timbre-sounding, I can sing those low notes through practice and they are relatively strong, but it's not really my comfort register and they just don't have much of those lower harmonics in sounding, same with Frank Sinatra, he could hit notes below E2, they were stable but you could just hear he wasn't bass, it was just extension of baritone timbre in low register.
@@genesedetrombonese3876 True. I have records of myself singing a powerful chest C2, and it does not make me a bass for this. Because this is absolutely not my comfort zone.
@@rja1165 Indeed you are correct that it's a combination of things that determines voice type.
me yawning
If you aquired, or should I say you were naturally gifted to have such a demanding skill, well then that's worthy of recognition in archives of the human history.
Show that you can do better!
@@genesedetrombonese3876 I meant as in it sounds like me yawning lmao..
Good work tho
@@yazurai4667 bro, u watched star wars?
very nice and pleasant but :
it's C# E# G# E# C# G# C#
i mean i don't where the F comes from
You are right, I am not music theory master xd
i know you from bsn
@@N9TheNoob yes
@@lorganiste8953 me?
are you a lyric baritone? or dramatic baritone?
I guess I am dramatic baritone, not bass-baritone cause my timbre in low register is too weak, it sounds good when i am close to mic
@@genesedetrombonese3876 Is a bass-baritone (roughly) a sub-type of the baritone voice as well ?
@@chukiri.93 yeah, bass-baritone belongs to baritone voice group, bass baritone have strong and well-speaking both bass and baritone range. C#2 is note that this kind of voice should produce and make it audiable on big opera scene. I can sing it close to mic, but without amplifier it would be too weak to pick it up even from middle chairs
@@genesedetrombonese3876 Seems like I possess the same voice as you, although I can't really tell whether I am drama. baritone or a bass-baritone. My voice is pretty dark 'n' deep, but definitely not as low as a 'true' bass or basso profondo. I sing very clear and good in the baritone range that's for sure, but my timbre seems to tend to the dark-sounding bottom.
@@chukiri.93 Dramatic baritone makes notes C2-A2 sound very low even tho they aren't so low comparing to basso profundo, every voice have diffrent timbre in diffrent registers, for example when woman is singing in low register, 3rd octave will sound lower comparing to baritone or tenor singing in the same register. Same with instruments, trumpet will sound "lower", more metalic in low register then trombone on same notes, every voice, every instrument has other roles depending on voice characteristics in certain register.
Why would you write E# as F
Sometimes things are... just that important.
C#2 out of tune 67 hertz
You're singing too dark, and throaty. Sing brighter, and more through your nasal passages as you get lower. It should sound a decent bit better.
God I was teen, I was playing around, what has happened to this comment section? nevertheless thx for advice.
Why did you write it like this? Pick either C# major or D-flat major. But don’t d C# and make the third be F-natural!!!!
Ok I did mistake, sory, my bad.
You're a bass. Not a baritone.
Nah lol he's a lyric baritone in my opinion :)
Trust me... listen to his other recordings.
Guys, I was just playing around, wtf has happened to this video 🤣. I am not even vocalist xDDD.
And nah-nah, I completely agree with bradycall I am not a bass.
And? I can hit it too and it sounds better, but still garbage, so what
Well I have a choice 😎 Even if I do sth what is garbage for some people and is non-profitable for me in monetized matters I can still do it because I have a "choice".
This is btw place were many adult people fails in their lifes, they slowly lose ability to have a "choice", you know focusing on career on this what is required by the labor market, focusing on doing these stuff what is trendy.
Well, I am glad that I still have it, have a choice. 😁
И зачем нужна эта до? Лучше бы работал над серединой.
Firstly I am not a vocalist so it was made for fun, but if I would be a vocalist I would use it to practice extremes so I could be more confident in middle register.
There was absolutely zero chest engaged here.