"You can see the moment the black keys ripped the skin off my fingers"..................................................................................................but actually tho, imagine that happened during a concert...
It's happened while I was practicing before, but because I sometimes practiced as though for a concert, I finished the piece before going for a bandaid, so.... there was a bit of blood on the keys I had to clean off too.
Depends on the context - Beethoven's 1st and Hummel's 2nd Piano Concerti both have octave glissandi but are written so it's possible to do with 2 hands.
@@mckernan603while earlier pianos did have smaller keys, they weren't small enough to make a difference. Also, ravel basically had to play on the same pianos as we do.
Liszt Totentanz? Also, the only time I actually bled from glissando was practising the orchestra part in Bernstein's Symphonic dances from west side story.
What glissando is in the Symphonic Dances? I don't know that piece but I'm super familiar with the music and piano conductor score for the show and can't recall any big glissandi.
@@KingstonCzajkowski eerrr it's either the opening "number" or mambo. I don't remember. I think I have the score and could check the part and give specific bar numbers, if you'd like 🤣
Thomson’s Etudes are very good. Ragtime Bass is incredible. But the cluster glissandi from Stockhausen’s Klavierstuck X should probably be included here, and probably at number 1. Pollini’s performance is great
if i remember the liszt etude correctly there's an easy way to get the glissandi the right distance apart and that's to wrap the thumbs of both hands together.
For the Czerny etude, you could just very lightly glide your fingers across the keys. Seems like the same is true for most or all other pieces included here
Here are a few alternate fingerings that I have used: Black keys (or any other 5-note pattern): L54321-R12345… White keys: L432-R1234… (I have used both patterns many times so that I don’t have to hurt my fingers) Miscellaneous: G, D, A, E major; L432-R1234… D, A, Db, Ab, Eb major: L23-R12345… B major: R1234-L432… F# major: L432-R1235… Bb, F major: L4321-R123… Whole-tone on C: L432-R123… Whole-tone on Db: L32-R1234 Octatonic: L4321-R1234… (This is not a comprehensive list)
@@Jartious In case you're wondering, for the 5-note ones, repeat every 2 octaves, but for the 7-note ones, repeat every octave (I have practiced these fingerings so much)
ok i also expected to see beethoven's waldstein #3 somewhere... but the last few examples were just insane ;) but i also need to say, from my own experience, that a well regulated and fluid action with least sideways slack as possible really makes a huge difference between barely unplayble and quite easy. years ago i asked my piano tech what he could do on my rather lower end yamaha grand piano. i just couldn't do the octave glissandi from the waldstein, but he fixed it rather inexpensively, and then it was no problem at all! :) - also, consider the shape of the key edges. if they are a bit more rounded, it will definitely reduce the pain factor ;)
I did expect Hamelin's Cadenza for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody, no. 2, and Ravel's La Valse (solo piano). You missed Liszt's Mephisto Waltz, no. 1, and his Totentanz, along with Debussy's Feux d'Artifice.
the worst glissando i have ever encountered was in ginastera's 3rd piano sonata - a triple gliss moving from white keys into a black-key cluster. ouch. i don't consider it possible LOL my favorite glisses to ever perform were those in the primo part of shostakovich's concertino for 2 pianos
"You can see the moment the black keys ripped the skin off my fingers"..................................................................................................but actually tho, imagine that happened during a concert...
It’s definitely happened in many concerts
It's happened while I was practicing before, but because I sometimes practiced as though for a concert, I finished the piece before going for a bandaid, so.... there was a bit of blood on the keys I had to clean off too.
Black key glissandos tend to do that, you basically can’t practice them or you’re going to bleed everywhere
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@@herobrine1847In some extremely hard performances, you can see traces of blood all over the keyboard after said performance
"Liszt is a devil, he composed very more charming piece, without thinking what the pianists' feel."
Not said by Chopin
I clicked the video expecting only Ravel at the end. not disappointed.
The glissandi in the introduction from Ravel's Piano Concerto are so nice!
Of course, I did expect him as well. No wonder.
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la valse or alborada del gracioso
sillly pianists, as a harpist this second nature
As a trombonist, I second this.
as a cellist i have my strings cut into my fingers in fast glissandos. fun stuff
@@frantisekmoravec7317Hungarian rhapsody by David Popper with the cadenza
Hamelin is just a god of glissandos!
hes just a piano god
Agree, and a nut that composed piece with some fucking hard piano skill
and the "funny" (stupid) thing is that old pianos had lighter keys, not to mention the ones in czerny's era...
Alborada del Gracioso: What about me?!?!?!? (Could have used Richter's perf.)
There's BLACK KEY OCTAVE GLISSANDO in Kapustin's 8th Sonata
I've heard the penultimate bars of the Chopin Etude 5 from Op.10 played as a black key octave gliss too.
not having totentanz on here gotta be a war crime
Not literally, but I understand.
It's cursed to see young Katsaris with full hair play
Octave glissandi are kinda impossible if you can't play a tenth atleast, because of the way you have to position you hand
Depends on the context - Beethoven's 1st and Hummel's 2nd Piano Concerti both have octave glissandi but are written so it's possible to do with 2 hands.
They were written for pianos of the day, not really possible on ours. I see no shame in taking the top note only
They’re definitely possible if you glide your thumb and pinky in a more straightened out way not with the nails
@@chrisoconnor9521yes, also in beethoven waldstein sonata
@@mckernan603while earlier pianos did have smaller keys, they weren't small enough to make a difference. Also, ravel basically had to play on the same pianos as we do.
Depends on the piano you're playing on too. Pianos can vary in key lightness/heaviness more than you'd think.
Have you seen Prokofiev Suggestion Diabolique Op.4 no.4? The gliss is crazy!
Liszt Totentanz?
Also, the only time I actually bled from glissando was practising the orchestra part in Bernstein's Symphonic dances from west side story.
my RH 4th and 5th fingers bled in totentanz variation 1
What glissando is in the Symphonic Dances? I don't know that piece but I'm super familiar with the music and piano conductor score for the show and can't recall any big glissandi.
@@KingstonCzajkowski eerrr it's either the opening "number" or mambo. I don't remember. I think I have the score and could check the part and give specific bar numbers, if you'd like 🤣
@@sebastian-benedictflore Yes, I'd love the bar numbers!
ive never actually paid attention to gliss in pieces lol, nice vid
Spanish Fantasy is literally Liszt's final boss theme-
That glissando is not that painful, but everything else is.
Petrushka got a lot of those
Honorable mention to Keit Emerson's "Rondo" (before he destroys the organ)
Thomson’s Etudes are very good. Ragtime Bass is incredible. But the cluster glissandi from Stockhausen’s Klavierstuck X should probably be included here, and probably at number 1. Pollini’s performance is great
Fast glissandos don't always mean they are hard. Until the rhapsody, the hardest one was Mozart because unlike the others, it needs accuracy.
Yeah, I thought that too but I wanted to put the Mozart first as having the music along with the title creates the feel I want
The Mozart also strikes me as a piece Chico Marx should have played, had he known it existed.
I like playing rhapsody 10 with octave glissandos. Learned the Waldstein first, then used that trick in the Liszt. Very fun!
You can do an octave glissando on the black keys if you point your thumb up, you can't use your nails at all but it usually works.
Where in Dahomey
What in dahomey
@@Jartious In Dahomey by grainger played by hamelin
lmfao was looking for some comment about in Dahomey and it was just yours
@@MedtszkowskiOh ok. I've never heard of that.
Where is Tausig’s Geisterschiff (I’m past my Percy granger phase(
Some also play glissando the octaves at the end of Waldstein Sonata 3rd movement... could be included there
Should have used Hamelin’s recording for Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2, it was his cadenza after all
I wish it was as fun and charming as it sounds
if i remember the liszt etude correctly there's an easy way to get the glissandi the right distance apart and that's to wrap the thumbs of both hands together.
A glissando brings you back to earth.
For the Czerny etude, you could just very lightly glide your fingers across the keys. Seems like the same is true for most or all other pieces included here
Here are a few alternate fingerings that I have used:
Black keys (or any other 5-note pattern): L54321-R12345…
White keys: L432-R1234…
(I have used both patterns many times so that I don’t have to hurt my fingers)
Miscellaneous:
G, D, A, E major; L432-R1234…
D, A, Db, Ab, Eb major: L23-R12345…
B major: R1234-L432…
F# major: L432-R1235…
Bb, F major: L4321-R123…
Whole-tone on C: L432-R123…
Whole-tone on Db: L32-R1234
Octatonic: L4321-R1234…
(This is not a comprehensive list)
Thanks for the comment! I will try the fingerings later. I guess you came from classical TH-cam slander lmao
@@Jartious In case you're wondering, for the 5-note ones, repeat every 2 octaves, but for the 7-note ones, repeat every octave (I have practiced these fingerings so much)
PAIN!!! I can feel the pain
*prokiev's diabolique lleft the chat*
I was waiting for this
Prokofiev - prelude "Harp" is on the 2nd place
What about chromatic glissandos like in the ghost ship by Liszts student Carl Tausig or Feux d'artifice by Debussy (played by Hamelin!)
The last clip has a chromatic glissando
Also it is surreal seeing how unnaturally even hamelin’s gliss is shocking
ok i also expected to see beethoven's waldstein #3 somewhere... but the last few examples were just insane ;)
but i also need to say, from my own experience, that a well regulated and fluid action with least sideways slack as possible really makes a huge difference between barely unplayble and quite easy. years ago i asked my piano tech what he could do on my rather lower end yamaha grand piano. i just couldn't do the octave glissandi from the waldstein, but he fixed it rather inexpensively, and then it was no problem at all! :) - also, consider the shape of the key edges. if they are a bit more rounded, it will definitely reduce the pain factor ;)
I recommend Claudio Arrau’s rendition of Beethoven Sonata no. 21. The control is really amazing! Skill as well as pain!
1:43 You can do it without hurting yourself by using your Middle and Ring finger
tausig ghost ship
I feel bad for Rousseau :(
3:27 is F# pentatonic scale
Realmente impactante y maravilloso
3:45 GOSH OP.365?
I CHECKED WIKIPEDIA THAT HE HAS AN OP.861?!!!
Debussy etude no.6 also has black key glissando
I did expect Hamelin's Cadenza for Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody, no. 2, and Ravel's La Valse (solo piano). You missed Liszt's Mephisto Waltz, no. 1, and his Totentanz, along with Debussy's Feux d'Artifice.
I thought Liszt was going insane while he was writing piece on level four
piano glissy compilation
the worst glissando i have ever encountered was in ginastera's 3rd piano sonata - a triple gliss moving from white keys into a black-key cluster. ouch. i don't consider it possible LOL
my favorite glisses to ever perform were those in the primo part of shostakovich's concertino for 2 pianos
Brahms Paganini Variations Book 1 var 13 also a lot of octave glissandos
is the 2nd one even a song (piece)?
Well, for starters, it'd be a PIECE since it isn't vocal music, but no, it isn't.
The Ghost Ship by Tausig
Can you do ten levels of ornaments or jazz next? I'm subbed
I'll put it on my list 👍
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Where is Hungarian Rhapsody no.15?
Faltó la mazurca glissando de Lecuona
imo you shouldve used ldf's performance of the spanish fantasy, but still good video
you need to see Jorge Luis Prats glissando
No waldstein 😢
glizzysando
if nyatith play my electric piano i think my piano will die X_X
Me who has a trombone:
Tambien seria muy dificil el glisando de la toccata concertata de ginastera
nice vid
I suggest you to make your next video with "10 levels of interval", bc it must have Liszt Spanish Fantasy in it💀
Do you mean like ten levels of difficulty?
@@Jartious bruh I'm not sure if I pronouns it correctly, but I mean like third, sixth, octave and as more as possible
Insane
Where in Beethoven Waldstein #3
Noice
No Totentenz...:((
Yo where's cziffra's octave glissandi? 😄
Where is Liszt's Piano Concerto N. 2 🥲😂
1:06 its not that fast
That idea of glissing all keys at once is a really cool idea! That's an interesting sound I might use in my pieces.
I quit Animenz My Dearest just bc of the double gliss *_*
bro these videos are kinda may get deleted he play other's video on his channel
2 is a pile of cack - how is this even included?
3 did the glissandi way too quick.
7 definitely needs to improve technique if they're bleeding.
lol ok
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Where is Hungarian Rhapsody no.15?