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- Comparing the ASUS ROG ALLY vs. the LENOVO LEGION GO in 10 Games side by side. Which one is faster?
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00:00 Introduction and Setup
02:50 (30W) Assassins Creed Valhalla
03:25 (30W) Baldurs Gate 3
04:00 (30W) Forza Horizon 5
04:34 (30W) Hogwarts Legacy
05:21 (30W) Cyberpunk 2077
05:48 (30W) Lies of P
06:13 (30W) The Witcher 3
06:47 (30W) Fortnite
07:29 (30W) Valorant
08:01 (30W) The last of Us
08:32 (15W) Assassins Creed Valhalla
09:14 (15W) Forza Horizon 5
09:28 (15W) Hogwarts Legacy
09:52 Conclusion - เกม
UPDATED VIDEO WITH NEW BIOS VERSIONS IS NOW ONLINE!!!
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game detail on the go....missing a dear in Harry potter...dull looking while the Rog is super clear with dears....two of them! comprising detail for FPS ..not good
@@andrewwright. It's coincidence if the dears appear or not. That is not related to the used device.
Awesome video, been looking for a comparison with this level of detail. Would love to see a comparison between Ally XGM 4090 vs LGo with eGPU 4090
Awesome video mate! Very enjoyable watch!
Great Video! Exactly what i was looking for a fair comparison on the screen resolution.
For future comparisons, I would strongly suggest to look into setting the fan curves manually on the Ally. It is reaching really high temps there in a few games with the default 30W setting.
I will.
haha, not just rog ally, basically any asus gaming laptop need a custom fan curve
Apparently, it's damaging the SD card reader.
The Lenovo gets better resoults because on “standard docking mode”the ally is set to a lower wattage if you manually change it on the ally they shoud peform roughly the same!
Amazing comparison ! Been anticipating for this. Thnx!
It's funny everyone jumped on hating Asus for release it with software issues. Lenovo gets a pass 😂 "don't worry they will fix it"😂
Steam Deck also had the same treatment because its “Valve”
Yes but Lenovo is already better in several cases at day 1.
@@reverieanimates887Can you name any issues with SteamOS on Steam Deck or are you going to keep this comment knowing you probably don't even own a powkiddy or anbernic?
@@user-vp6cq4sv3d In their previous firmware version, there were some issues. Steam OS used to corrupt micro SD cards because it didn't have a safety eject feature. It’s also the same issue when reformatting a disk which also corrupted it.
Another issue was that thumbsticks started to drift, which was caused by an update with deadzone regression. Back then people panicked and started buying replacement parts but it turned out to be a software-side issue.
The quick access menu was also inconsistent between scrolling through submenus and parent menus.
Valve also shipped a large number of faulty units after launch, with numerous Decks being reported as being stuck on a black screen or simply not working at all. So all of that requires an RMA.
So here’s the thing… Valve had similar launch problems with the Deck, but they have been improving their OS after a year by addressing those issues. The ROG Ally and Lenovo Legion Go are likely to have some rough edges initially, so whether people like it or not.
@user-vp6cq4sv3d I have a steam deck and none of these other handhelds. The screen sometimes not wkaing up from sleep and having to do a hard shut down all the time. Crashes in verified titles like miles morales, crashes when switching from gaming mode to desktop mode. Shader cache still taking the piss, if you have it your dive will be filled to the brim and you can't open any apps, if you don't have it on games like apex will be unplayable with massive stutters even in the testing grounds map.
Thanks for the comparison!
I just picked up the Go on a whim after being very pleased with the Ally since day 1. I mostly play Diablo and the 1% lows are much lower and there is quite a bit more stuttering on the Go than on the Ally. However, the Go screen is marvelous, the avg FPS is between 10-14% higher and the Go was so much easier to setup than the Ally. For me, I think the Go will be my home machine and the Ally will be my travel machine.
Lol. 2 Handhelds at the same time? :D
Dude is into it :P
What? Or you can just bring the Go with you, you basically have two identical device? Can I borrow some money?
Not sure what you're talking about. I've read ppl saying 5 maybe 10 more fps which this guy is showing that and more at 30W. 15W is definitely optimized more on the Ally and Asus has been working on that and the Ally has had how many updates since release, a bunch. It's disappointing that Lenovo hasn't optimized the drivers and firmware since they showcased and after watching the improvements Asus has made. I wonder what OS power mode he used at 15w
@@ominousview Did you answer under the wrong comment? 🙈
@@Hubwoodat higher tdps is when the faster ram kicks in and outputs more fps .
The GPU Temp on Lenovo Legion Go is pretty impressive!
Yes! I noticed too, could mean the hardware lasts longer!
It's like 5 degrees less in average it's nothing lol
@@Djouzz 5 celsius degrees in average mean it more than likely last year after warranty end and ROG Ally more than likelyt break right after warranty if you play with both daily for 5 hours.
yeah sure, what's not impressive is the CPU temp which is not displayed in the video
@@raven89k ROG Ally and Legion Go has APU so GPU temperature is CPU temp too because they are one package. So there is no separate GPU chip and CPU chip.
900p on ally is gorgeous i love 900p i usually get 60 fps on most game with rsr on
Yep barely can tell the difference from 1080p if the Legion gets someone to do what they did to the Ally and, add 900p this thing will chew through games at medium/low settings.
Nice video man! I was literally asking myself this earlier today when I had the chance to get hands on with an ROG Ally.
Legion GO might be my first handheld, hope playing at the low TDP will be optimized soon
I purchased the ROG Ally Z1 Extreme now during the Black Friday sales. Watched a ton of comparison videos, charts etc. But the deciding factor was actually the price, managed to get a hold of The ROG Ally Z1 Extreme for around 568 euros, so im not realy sad about it lacking in comparison on some of it's aspects compared to the Lenovo Legion Go.
Same boat, got an Ally open box in the states for $490 US. Sold my Steam Deck and this thing is nuts. Its faster than my HP Omen 30L Ryzen 3700x. Absolutely incredible.
@@douglarsen4801 i did the opposite sold mine for the steam deck oled
@@douglarsen4801 Bro compare the way the homeboy talks about the Legion Pro VS the Rog Ally, you can just tell the Legion go is his personal preference, yet we can agree that the ally is by far better than the legion Go, i own both devices btw.
@musimejmae4734 it's subjective I own both and prefer the go there is no right and wrong here 🤣
same got a z1 extreme for cheap used, love this machine! smaller than steam deck and legion go, better performance than steam deck. Light weight
does ROG ally win also when it comes to 20 watt TDP? I think thats the best TDP for these APUs. Thank you very much!
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Which one is better for on the go gaming, and playing on battery? And which battery would last longer on the go?
outside any arguments and comparison, this one at 0:55 is almost enough for me ! Look at this screen difference 🤩
Great video. Very useful and I feel better about my purchase now. I own the Ally & Go too.
Just a heads up. Do you know that you still have the plastic sheet on the trackpad?. I can see it in the video.
I do know that xD didn't feel like peeling it off yet since I might sell it in 2-3 months after I'm done with all my tests :)
Who is the best ?
Going to wait 3 months before buying any handheld, to see what happens with the software/ bios/ drivers on these devices.
Legion Go looks the best, really want a big screen to see what Im doing while AAA gaming.
Will be plugged in all the time and at home.
Buy a PS5/XSX or a PC instead if you want to stay and play at home xD
Yeah fr, i was on board until he was like "Will be plugged in all the time" Might aswell get a PS5 for less @@Riptor_WL
I’ve been waiting for THIS video 😃
more videos please ,and thank you!!
Finally someone who does a great job of comparing games. Thanks! I’m leaning towards the Go I just really hope it can run Fallout 4 okay since that’s the main reason I’ll be buying a handheld…
Fallout 4 will run perfectly fine! :)
@@Hubwood Appreciate the response, in that case I’ll be ordering one next week!
Why fallout4 a very old gm
@@2gunzup07 why is have restrictions to play old games dude? You really got some nerve to have your rules to yourself?
@nicksugoi9366 saying I'm buying a something to run a 10 year old gms is like saying I'm looking forward to play tekken 2 or sf2 or I want something to run crazy taxi you should have enjoyed those gms 20 years ago
I switched from Steam Deck to Legion Go, and never looked back. Also there was a brand new firmware update for the Legion Go as of 1/3/2024.
I have tested both and Ally outperforms Go in almost all games at 1080p, 30W, medium-high settings.
It’s really the screen that does it for me. Also the Go feels better in my hands in long sessions compared to the ally. Also I shilled out on GeForce Now and the games look marvellous on the Go’s massive screen
Definitely on the fence with these two devices. I'll probably be making a decision after Christmas so it will be interesting to see if Lenovo make any meaningful updates before then. Not sure I can live without VRR now that I've gotten used to it on my OLED TV. Absolute game changer with Gsync
Same. I'm literally looking for someone to tell me which to get. Haha😂 I already have Steamdeck.
@@nickfromohio6032 I ended up getting the Ally. It was $100 off at best buy. I like it so far but haven't gotten to spend a ton of time with it. ASUS are updating it like crazy too. I was going to get the OLED steam deck otherwise but glad I went with the Ally just to have that extra power if I want it.
As someone who just returned the legion. Don't get that one
@@mannionsmemories5753 why?
Not just that, but with the low fps on these devices it'll make the experience night and day difference in terms of smoothness.
If only the Go had VRR. I never really knew how great it was until I owned the Ally. It literally makes sub 60-fps games play/appear smooth as if they are above 60fps. If the ally didn't fry my MicroSD card I'd say its perfect for me (considering I also like the smaller size and weight of it)
This is where I'm at too. These specs will play aaa at 40 to 55 fps for the next couple years, I just can't go back to screen tearing or v-sync input lag at 60 hz
@@ordeogrimm2059Understandable! VRR/Freesync is a blast if you're sensitive to it.
If only the micro SD slot wasn't bad.
@@thundergato84 Like many others I just learned to deal with it and upgraded the SSD to a 2TB. If there's a revision within the next year I'll likely RMA it and get the new version, but ASUS might intentionally wait a year for all warranties to expire before doing so
I have the ally n usually carry a 16 inch gaming monitor is funny cuz monitor only powers by usb c cable n last around 2 hours
Fortnite gives you the option to pre-install DX12 shaders in the game launcher. This removes the stutter with a slight hit performance
good effort there 🤝
We just really need 32GB of RAM with VRAM options as far as 16GB. These devices would be unstoppable at that point.
Dumbfk you don't even need 32 gb of ram for these devices
@@johnong9860 Okay 😆
What's wrong with you? @@johnong9860
@@johnong9860 You do if you're doing something a little more work related.
@@beckinbinderinwork related? my brother in christ it s a gaming console 😂
Idk why you’re running everything at 720p ? I run my Ally on 1080p exclusively and never had any issues on any AAA game. I get my GO on Monday can’t wait.
So which one is better?
Ally ❤@@Lord-jq7hv
Hi.
Does the Legion Go has the "Battery Charging Bypas" feature like the rog ally ?? I can't find any info on the net...
…yes…kicks in when usb charging and playing…
So when im using with no cable or just batteries, the rog ally is better than legion go?
Yup I definitely wait on the Legion Go ironing out its issues. Also have you considered doing performance comparisons between it and the Ally at 20 watts?
If i can find the time. Got alot of videos in the pipeline ;)
Not much in it if you ask me.... given the price crash of the ROG I think the smart money is spent on the the Ally....
same
Very well made Video. Subscribed
Thanks and welcome :)
Quite tempted by the Legion Go, the extra screen size and performance make it better for me than the Ally, just need to see how the bugs are ironed out by Lenovo I guess. Great video though as always
Performance isn’t that great on the Go I would recommend going with the Rog Ally!
I have both and I love them equally just waiting for legion to bios and graphics update roll out
Same I'm waiting for a year when most things are well managed to get it, might be in next april or around september.
@@YourFather311 I prefer the Ally due to the lack of Performance on the Legion Go until they release bios updates and newer drivers
I went ally . More ironed out and the speakers on the go oh my there bad 😅 I know people use headphones but still and no VRR well just a no brainer really
Legion GO is just too massive in my opinion. The ally is the perfect to go size in my opinion.
Agree, it's the closest to the switch even the switch being to big sometimes, but to have a nice screen I'll go with ally and a good power bang attached
Hmm, you made me interested.
The legion go will optimize more at lower wattages with driver and bios updates, as we saw with the ally
Let's hope that it will!
So memory MHz effect the performance of APU like normal APU, it great to see a lot improve for handheld , I hope the price will drop a bit :)
Hello, I have a question. Does the Lenovo Legion Go allow two people to play games together like the Nintendo Switch, for games like FIFA or Mario Kart, for example? I would be very happy if you could answer my question. Have a great day!
No. The controle doesn't work like switch. You'll need other control conected to play with other person.
For me the go is hands down winner. I travel a lot for work and I’m mainly a fps and competitive shooter player so the fps mode is a game changer for me.
My understanding is you don't actually want to be using Legion Go's 30 Watt mode atm. You really kinda wanna stick with their 20W mode. That's where those terrible 1% Lows are coming from and other oddities.
You will get better performance not using them until they work out some of the software.
I was getting less average fps with the standard turbo mode. Didn't check the 1% lows in that case though. Will have to test that :) thx for the heads up!
The screen probably helps Lenovo consume more and engage less final performance on the GPU when using 15w while 30w has enough power to make the least difference.
I know you used 15W balanced mode for the battery test but what OS power mode did you use
Performance mode. when using the 15W Mode switching between the 3 OS Power Modes has no effect. Just tested it on Hogwarts Legacy as we speak since other users mentioned it.
I grabbed the ally this week . Portability , audio and VRR were the 3 things that put me of the GO . I really don't want to be carrying something as big as that in my bag . The Rog ally is already heavy enough 😅😂 but its the right size for me as Desktop is my main PC gaming headquarters . This is for bed and on the go .
Very hard to compare as you say the chip lottery . Will be all different let alone people's tweaks.
I agree with you on everything but the display size. I would love a larger display even if I had to sacrifice some portability.
@@molsen7549 hey thats fair mate . Each to there own. We all cant agree all the time 😁 thats just my views of it . Have the Rog Ally and so far its been flawless once you figure out how to use it . Legion Go im sure next model with have VRR and im looking forward to that incase
What about the sd card reader though? Do you even use it?
@@oo--7714 nah I just put in a 2TB nvme lolz . I mean I rather play my games off a proper hard drive then a sd card though so that didn't worry me .
@@oo--7714 I've had my Ally since June 2023 and the sd card reader is still working fine. I just haven't left the cards in long term
The battery performance difference may be due to how the Legion Go balances power between the CPU and GPU… Which I believe is tied to the “OS Performance” setting. Try testing games with that set to “Efficiency” and see if that changes the results.
Just checked it for Hogwarts Legacy.
When I'm on Battery using the 15W mode there is no difference between changing the OS Power mode whatsoever.
THOUGH on the 30W Custom Mode with the maximum 30W on battery, changing the OS Power mode has an effect and helps with the weird frame drops, yet it's still performaing significantly slower and more stuttery than on the 20W mode.
An issue Lenovo defenitely will have to adress.
@@Hubwood So it definitely has an effect, but needs some work it seems. I am sure more improvements will be made.
The faster RAM seems to help, as the shared RAM aspect has always been a limitation for APUs, and I would expect that after tweaks by Lenovo, we might see an uplift in 1% lows.
Yeah I hope so. But I guess we will see improvements over time.
@@Hubwood Do you have to play handhelds with the charger plugged in order to have the maximum performance or there isnt much difference between plugged and unplugged?
I love my Ally (2tb ssd) but I will get the Go when it’s updated enough.
Nice video. Battery life test please Ally vs Go this is more important for me
Covered that in my pro and con video for both of them
I know I want the best of everything, but if I had my choice I'd take the steam decks controls (mainly the track pads), with the next generation of cpu/gpu combo, and please 🙏 an OLED screen.
My eyesight is going on me, I need Brightness on 100% or I need the giant magnifying glass/light add on we used to have for the original Gameboy. Lol
You have to be a certain age to understand what add on I'm talking about. 😅
I'm close to 40 and my eyesight is 100%.
Still smaller screens like on the Ally are becoming really stressing for my eyes after a while. The Legion GOs 8.8 Inch is really helping in that case...
Aye yo I forgot about those magnifying light til I saw this comment! Man how the time has passed haha.
@j1nftw1n , haha I'm glad I'm not the only one who remembers them. 😅
I remember being so disappointed that first Christmas that the screen on the original game boy wasn't back lit. EVERYONE, had a gameboy.
I don’t own either, so I just bought the Legion Go. I want to use an SD card and eventually an EGPU and a nice monitor to turn it into a desktop as well.
I believe the software will improve in the next month or so. So hopefully I am happy with my purchase.
Enjoy :)
Would an egpu work with the go?
@@buckbuckgoose92there is a video on ytube where LGO is used combined with a GPD G1 and it works perfectly. I’ll buy this combination
@@buckbuckgoose92 yes!
@@buckbuckgoose92
ETA Prime has a video up using a eGPU.
How is the cooling on the Ally and the Go? Can they maintain the performance you show consistently, or do they overheat and slow down after a while?
The GO has slightly better cooling. I was using full Fan Speed Mode in all tests and temeprtures we're maintained. No throttling.
My go never goes above 72 c while my ally easy hits 88
@@zomg346 mine at 18W doesn't go above 57
I'm sorry, is that the normal Ally or the Z1 Extreme version? Thanks
Z1 extreme
I was gonna get the ally based on the fact that its lighter, a little cheaper where I’m at rn, mostly other videos have made it seem that the legion has lower fps on every game (strangely the opposite of this one), and don’t wanna deal with the issues with a native portrait mode display (sounds absolutely HORRIBLE dealing with the issues that will no doubt come up randomly here and there for the entire lifetime of this product).
Though based on this video I’m more annoyed than ever because yes the legion go already has a lot of its own bonuses like the removable controllers/mouse mode, screen size and resolution, as well as color according to this video is also better, not to mention the fps results shown…
It has lower FPS because it's set to 1200p while ally is set to 720p.
Change go to 720p and it wins hands down
Both are great machines, I personally prefer the GO, it is fabulous to have the larger screen. A wonderfully put together vid, not easy to do in reality.
no vrr... big change
Llg no vrr?
@@muhdiqwansolleh1969 yes no vrr
Awesome review I have a few questions for you and asking honestly
1. do you notice no VRR so more stuttering
2. Across the board what is the performance difference ? It's weird there are other reviewers showing more of a close benchmark difference meaning in some instances the ally wins over go and vice versa but not to the degree your showing.
3. What are you sticking with personally and why?
I was using an older Bios for the Ally because the newest wasn't available in time for me. Now the ally is closer.
Once both are optimized the performance difference will be marginal. If existant at all.
Can you test Sonic Frontiers? It runs well on rog ally, and works good on my steam deck. I’m having issues running it on my Lenovo Legion Go. Any advice please help!
I like the portability of the ally
I like the legion better in appearance and the ram bump to 7500 is nice. But lack of VRR means I won’t switch! I wish they would’ve added a vrr screen:(
Don't be scared of that.. been playing the same games as on my Ally and no issues without VRR
Genuinely don't think VRR matters much, at all. My laptops display does not support it. I have NEVER noticed tearing on it.
At the resolution of such a size of screen VRR is not a dealbreaker by a long shot.
I have both Ally & Go.
Almost unnoticeable.
@@ytmaxxammo8591who is the best ?
Very noticeable don’t listen to this ppl vrr makes a massive difference, I mean massive
Hy,
How do you generate that detalied stats on handhelds ? It looks very nice and usefull.
Tanks for your help.
Witz msi afterburner in combination with the included RTSS (Windows only)
Aa tempted as I am to get a legion go.. I already have a steam deck and rog ally with a 4tb ssd in it...600-700 dollars for a 5-10fps difference is not wortb it...the next generation handhelds with 32gb ram will likely be my next handheld upgrade.
I love my Ally, and will probably just skip the Legion go. Armory crate has grown on me (and it has gotten some updates). The last of VRR and portrait screen is a buzzkill for me
There are some disadvantages to VRR screens as well (I have one for my PC), mostly that human beings can notice the Refresh Rate dynamically changing in real-time (especially bellow 60Hz) which will happen quite frequently on these handheld devices.
For me the Legion GO actually seems more appealing in that scenario with the fixed High Refresh rate. In addition, enabling VSync on 120Hz and setting locked frame-rates to factors of 120FPS should in theory eliminate stuttering.
@@hitbm4755 Not sure what disadvantages you are referring to, as whatever you think it might look worse and more noticeable on a VRR screen within its fps range will look way worse on a screen without VRR. Also not sure what you mean by “fixed high refresh rate” as that won’t matter if your device can’t output fps that high.
@@MithosDagon He is referring to the flicker that some people can notice when the screen drops below 60hz (it happens to me with the steam deck below 50-60hz), if the screen is fixed the only problem is screen tearing. Any way i think that VRR is the way to go.
The screen is landscape, it was confirmed by lenovo. The portrait was only on the early prototypes because they just took out the screen from one of their tablets for testing, etc.
@@goathonks8183 The retail units are native portrait display. Lenovo made a mistake or lied. Otherwise link me current article where they say they will recall their retail units and give everyone landscape
Lenovo legion go doesn’t have a default tdp setting of 30W , u have to manually set to it . And the fan noise is much louder than ally
As a screen snob, this def caught my eye. But spec for spec, it's gonna be a while before I feel the need to replace my A1 Pro.
I’m thinking of handheld gaming and been researching on devices. I prefer gaming on Xbox and currently have GamePass. Am I able to download gamepass games on these instead of streaming? Thanks
Yes. You can use all game pass PC games, as this is basically a portable windows 11 PC.
Something odd with the Legion Go using more RAM and able to pull ahead. The 6GB VRAM setting is simply limiting the Ally in terms of sheer memory usage.
Not sure why he didn't match the VRAM.
Because the Ally has issues with 4GB only. The Legion Go didnt.
If I would have used 4GB VRAM for the Ally people would have killed me xD
@@Hubwood I think there are very conflicting reports on this. I read that 3Gbs was the sweet spot for the Ally based on some testing someone else made. I run my Ally with 5Gb of VRAM, if I remember correctly, but I never had issues when running it with 4Gb out of the box.
@@AbrahamZX1 Check out this excellent video by Filterless in which he tested this VERY detailed: th-cam.com/video/zPNvmg8wi0A/w-d-xo.htmlsi=E6pRaMYBQlfK4bOo
even with higher frames per second the ally is still way smoother in these test, i noticed so much hitching and stuttering on hogwarts legacy. The legion go isn't better optimized lol, it all boils down to the faster ram speed.
He explained why it happened it was his mistake.
But what does the go do when using its full screen resolution?
Ahh I was on the fence with handhelds but lenovo 😊surely pushed this industry in an innovative and solid way.
Great to see the Go Woking well but still happy I went for the Ally as for me I don't want table top or detachable controllers/FPS mode. I don't game that way but definitely cool for people that do
Yeah it's funny it's supposed to be a plus but it's the only reason I'm hesitating. I want it for the screen, I don't need this weird controller stuff. I wish Steam made one with a nice screen.
@@mith2946honestly it’s cool it’s a plus like you said and yea wish Valve did a SD with a bigger screen.
I agree, holding a controller in the vertical position as a mouse doesn't make much sense. If I needed to game that way, a small bluetooth mouse would work even better.
@@mith2946 but you do not have to detach it, and if they are at a similar price point it is definitely a nice feature to have.
@@footfiles You can still hook up your own mouse. Duh
To all the people who said VRR doesn't matter.
I could literally tell the difference when he rotated the camera on the Legion Go almost instantly.
Rewatch it again and you'll notice it. The ROG Ally VRR smooths out the refresh of hz. While the LegionGO is straight Vsync
Thank you, didn't know about the vrr think! That's awesome I hate stuttering wich I've had my entire life playing games on the pc, never had a chance to buy a new monitor 😂
Hi can you test Sonic Frontiers Steam? I have my Lenovo Legion Go, all my games work except Sonic Frontiers any advice?
Can you try running lords of the fallen 2023 I want to see if they have the same issue as on the rog ally where it looks washed out
Should have selected either 8 or 4 GB of VRAM on both. Because this comparison is not about how much VRAM is optimal or how many FPS each device eeks out; it's about which one is faster, and that requires equal settings. It's really odd that you didn't select either 4 GB on both or 8 GB on both. Some games might suffer from VRAM deficit on the Legion and others might suffer from RAM (system memory) deficit on the Ally.
That would only be true if both handhelds handle the pre allocated vram identically.
Im currently testing all 3 VRAM configs for the LEGION go to compare them to each other.
I just don't have the time to do everything at once.
It's hard to compare these devices "fair" since for example on the LEGION GO the 15W profile is yet totally unoptimized and not strong enough whereas the 30 Wat Proifle is faster on the LEGION GO and not that optimized on the ALLY. It's only to get an "idea" of what to expect and overall both Handhels are in the same Ballpark more or less.
Totally agree, 3 and 4 Gb is not fair comparison
@@slonato2004 I repeated the test in a new video with same ram. Check it out.
@@Hubwood, thank you!
Only reason I am considering the LGo over the Ally is because of the detachable controllers..coming from a Switch owner that has gone through various joy cons
Lenovo Go uses drift free controllers.
Detachable controllers are a must. What happens if something breaks or a button breaks or anything like that with the rog ally you now have a paper weight
@@timotheviands7562Rog Ally have the cheap analogue sticks that will drift sooner or later. Already been a issue for many already. Lenovo uses the proper ones that won't drift.
Goodluck saw more new reviews and it sucks
@@theunknown7441Rog Ally?
Important question:
How is the input lag especially playing online ?
you can bump up the vram to 8 on the rog ally. the form factor and price point of ally plus the amount of updates that asus is coming out with regularly makes is a much better device in my opinion.
While performance wise the Legion GO on average show a small bump in performance in max tdp scenarios, it is not enough to make up for all the really annoying issues and it really feels like that it is a mess. Lenovo Legion Space is borderline useless, makes Armoury Crate look like a miracle in comparison. You can not reconfigure any of the controller buttons, sticks, etc. to anything you would really want. There is the touchpad but there is no right click or left click and you can not assign any of the button to be right click or left click, ..... wtf lenovo!?!? This make using the right stick, and right bumper/right trigger in desktop mode on the Ally for mouse looks like a genius implementation. Additionally whether if the 1 or 2 controller is attached changes how the controller behaves. The best thing about the detachable controllers is that you can leave the pointless non-configurable controllers at home, get the weight saving and use it like a small tablet.
The on screen performance monitor fails to stay on screen, just try it with BG3, you can not see it anymore. The faster memory is not getting you better fps in 2077. Stupid AMD software keeps crying about the wrong edition and you just can not pull up the AMD Adrenalin UI. The FPS mode is a gimmick, you can not play competitively against someone using a real gaming mouse (think G502, G pro, Deathadder, EC2 etc.).
A really serious problem that plagues the Legion GO is that it is actually a portrait screen. And when it shows it is nasty and make the whole thing feel half baked. Old games, dosbox stuff will have all sorts of fit with this that would never be an issue on the ROG Ally. WTF is with the portrait screen anyways?! You launch a linux installer, or Acronis, or anything else text based direct booting some liveCD iso and this crap is just going to mess with you. Annoying as F!@$%!!!
On top of it all the SSD run way too hot, temps while gaming using the max power tdp profile cause the SSD to hit 75C or higher, seriously?! In contrast the SSD in the ROG Ally is still a hair below 60C. The thing that was suppose to be the saving grace, the TB4 E-GPU, that is so hit and miss, it works with some and fails with others, just blue screens over and over.
I really want to like the Lenovo Legion GO, but it feels at this time to be really half baked. It also just feels heavy. It its best mode of use is without the controllers and having it stand on its own kick stand, and with whatever kb/mouse and controller you would really want.
And the final insult is that Legion Go Space puts the "store front" front and center, that is just obnoxious. It is trying to sell you crap all the time, whereas the Amoury Crate puts your game library front and center.
Someone is angry here 😬
Keep in mind: it was released 3 days ago. The ALLY did get alot of optimization since it's release.
@@Hubwood I paid real money and I get half baked product ... why should I not be angry? Not that I am, but I would think anyone should be justified if they are angry.
Optimization is not the issue, the issues are myriad, and range from stupid to serious. I am trying to decide if I should return the thing to MicroCenter and get a refund.
Please
@@aikafuwa7177refund the lenovo go bro, ally is better, at launch ally was doing better and somo had the sd problem
nice they are both z1 extreme so maybe you should take the fps after 30 min for heatsink 18 watt mode should be the best !
What do you mean? :)
I don't think msi afterburner is misreporting. The disparity can clearly be quantified by the lower clock speed. Either way they're both dope systems.
Misreporting what? Do you refer to me saying missreporting the RAM speed? I meant it's only showing 1/8 of the final RAM speed on both devices.
nice comparison, thanks!
In Canada a new ROG is $1015 after tax. A nice lady sold me a used one for $640, I'm loving the rog!
Yeah, Ally is getting surprisingly many returns, so can be found second-hand pretty cheap.
Can you compare battery life between them?
From using both. The go definitely have better battery. I can kill the ally battery in a hour or less paying mk1. Hasher killed the go battery yet from 1 session
@@tykendrick800how many hours would you say? The go vs the Ally. The difference I mean
@@ryanisright3559 I got to play around with it more. And for me, that won't be until the new updates come out. It's unplayable for me due to analog deadzone problem.
@@ryanisright3559 its like a 45min difference from 40w vs 49w if we use 20w from battery If im calculating it right XD
Why are videos of benchmarks like this so hard to find, all these youtube reviewers, present company excepted, do not deserve audiences because theyre like, this is so nice look what it can do duuuuuhh
What happens If i use the Full Resolution of the Go?
At 720 it was nearly the same/better than the rog, but what happens If i use the device... How it was intended?
I am still between the Go and the rog.
Man, I've been obsessed with the Legion Go, despite the fact that I will NOT be getting one. In a lot of ways, it's better than the Ally (more frames at high TDP, higher resolution, can be used as a tablet, among others), but in some ways, it's worse (no VRR, portrait-based screen, less frames at lower TDP, among others). And it's the exact same chip as the Ally. If I'm gonna buy another one of these things, it needs to have a stronger chip.
Still, if I didn't already have an Ally, I'd definitely go for it. But I still love my Ally.
And both are great in their own way :)
The lack of VRR isn't necessarily a disadvantage at that high refresh rate and you can notice refresh rate dynamically changing with VRR once it drops below 55FPS.
u must be a fake bot and those likes speak ...u liked ur own comment with ur accounts
legion go is way worse than ally and it gets nowhere near those frames in this video
Jesus, of course it does. Why wouldn't it .. they both have the same hardware performance wise. Why wouldn't the LEGION Go perform that way?
I would say that when you are about to buy a portable gaming PC one of the most important things is the battery life and ergonomics, the performance is marginal given that between Steam Deck, Asus and Lenovo there is not such a big leap in performance to justify the purchase of one over the others. A fundamental factor for me in the choice was also the operating system. Steamdeck will be very fast with its SteamOs, but I prefer to have a slightly buggier system like Windows which however allows me to do everything I want and play any game possible.
I am buying lenovo Go bcoz of it's big and better screen and detachable controller. If ally do this improvement in next handheld I will definitely go for ally.
Keeping the Ally. I am not upgrading unless it's a different chipset :) both are great devices I honestly think the Legion Go is better. the lack of VRR seems to be fine
The SD card reader isn't 😂
@@aaronmason6902Its very easy to upgrade the ssd to 2tb. You don’t need an sd card
@@jmelz155 but should you have to?
@@jmelz155 Attitudes like that allow companies to continue get away with releasing broken hardware.
@@HarleyGC7 Attitudes like what ? ASUS sends you a RMA and fixes it.
Not every single unit has that problem .
So what is your point ?
Go with legion. Not for performance. But for temperature. Many steam deck died because of heavy cyberpunk gameplay that made the device very hot.
This one is unbelievably low from 63-67 which is great for lengthy play.
Display is big enough to enjoy the scenary without stressing the eye or neck.
But Legion Go is so big with uncomfortable design
Can someone ask Lenovo why they advertised 144hz VRR panel in the beginning now the retail product has that missing feature.
In your opinion, which is better, do you advise me to buy it?
In my opinion if you're unsure you should watch my video in whicj I compare the two. Also be aware that Lenovo fixed almost all the issues with updates.
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Ally and go owner here and legion go is so good. Tried 800p medium d4 and with no fsr I get 85 fps and fsr quality 120.also 800p look really good specially the game text compared to ally 720p it was so blurry.also temperature of the go is so much better i never seen it above 72 c even in 30w while ally get easy 90c
dont know how u will ever get to 90 C mine doesn't get above 60 C ever
@@AmazonWebService98 maybe on balance mine hit easy 88 and so did in this test
@@AmazonWebService98mine 90c turbo all day 😂
@@AmazonWebService98 probably depends on the climate in your country.
If only Lenovo was smart enough to have a 32GB RAM option, the Legion Go will blow every single Portable PC (including the Steam Deck) handheld out of the water.
Appreciate you taking the time showing the comparisons. I might get this once I see a certain cashback site has a 10% back offer at Lenovo directly.
32GB would defenitely crown the king of handhelds... imagine 8-12 GB VRAM and still having 24-20GB Ram left. :-O
But I guess that would mean people wouldn't buy any new devices until around 2028 😅
That was so dumb that they didn't do this why not idiots 🙄
Because they wouldn't be able to sell new versions in 2 years from now and charge us double :D
A 32GB handheld would probably last 5 years :P
U are insane, bigger ram will kill laptops 😂 some gpu can use shared up to 8gigs
Hell no
I immediately clicked the liked button when you added The Witcher 3 on the benchmarks. That game should be a standard. I played roughly 900+ hours on that . Haha. I would suggest Tomb Raider, RDR 2 and God of War for the Benchmarks on the coming videos if you could. Thank you!
I have a rog ally and i love it dearly but god damn that lenovo looks so good! In all honesty though it looks heavy aswell. I say its personal preference! 👌
For me the problem with those machines is that the are not portable for me, too big and heavy, hope one day they fix it
I get the feeling you're looking for something pocketable, like the 3DS was. That's kind of a rough fix. The closest any of these companies ever came to with that is with the GPD Win 4, but the compromise with smaller is that the heat transfer from unit to hand. One guy on reddit said it was legit painful playing his Win 4 when he ran higher end games due to the heat. A lot of components need to be able to fit into these shells while also keeping the heat off of peoples hands, and it's a balancing act that requires a size compromise. People complain about the Steam Deck's size, but Valve stated it's by literal design that the Deck is so long, as the heat mostly comes from the center of the unit, thus making it longer keeps the hands off that part of the shell. The ROG Ally is currently the smallest of these handheld PC's that can run AAA games while keeping heat transfer to an A+ minimum. There are some pocketable sized hand held PC's coming down the pipeline, but you might want to reconsider. Not a lot of people think about the heat until they spend big money. It happened to me with my GPD Win 2021 edition. That thing gets uncomfortably hot to where I didn't like using it sometimes.
@@TheSixthSLoT exactly i would like something to put in my pocket, the most i get is nintendo switch lite, i hope that in the years to come the cpu become more efficient, meanwhile i will keep playing in my laptop at home and with my nintendo DS outside
ally performs better. at 15tdp and higher unless u have a defective device that has lower fps theres tons of ally devices that have lower frames than others. and people just dont know it
Would you assume my device is defective? From comparissons and benchmarks it seemed to perform as intended 🤷♂
This is kind of what I was thinking, my friend had his legion over here last last, and it was exactly the opposite, I was getting better framerates in every game we tried with the ally. It technically doesn't make sense that the legion would be better with a bigger screen to compensate for with a higher resolution with the same chipset , faster maybe.
exactly@@normodb
i dont believe these internet guys...my friend has legion go in reality and it had way to many fps drop and low fps than rog ally...these reviewers are faking it for sure@@normodb
Maybe better performance rn, but as he said in the video, the legion gos drivers are not updated
Legion Go was the right choice. First handheld device for me, and I can't wait to see how we go towards an LGO 2.
Matthew issues legion go 2?
@Kingbrawl-tw9uy What? Legion Go 2 hasn't been announced (I would love to hear news about it, of course). The content creator isn't giving away Legion Go. I purchased the device and didn't receive a free product. I'd like to assume this has cleared any possible confusion?
Which fan is louder? I don’t wanna hear all that fan power lol that’s all it is for me at this point