Let me give you an Amen on this video! Probably the most important video you will ever post. I have a 1948 M Farmall with narrow wheels on front end. I have spent countless hours on this tractor for about 35 years, tinkering with it, getting off and standing beside it while it was running or starting it, always checking that it was out of gear if starting it while standing beside it. A few months ago, I got off tractor after running it awhile, it was idling too fast. standing in front of rear wheels in front of carb, in a hurry, fixated on getting that idle correct. I had a bushhog hooked to it. I reached over and turned the switch to crank and it started forward in 2nd gear. Rear tires bumped me and I only had time to run out of way of it. It slowly veered to the left down toward the woods. Since it had the bushhog behind it, I let it go instead of trying to jump on it from the rear. Luckily, before it reached the woods, it reached a large pine log that I had lying on ground. The front wheels jumped over the log but the rear wheels just slowly started spinning against the log. I jumped over and yanked the coil wire off and shut off the tractor. I don't smoke, but if there had been a cigarette around I would have lit one up after that! So, it goes to show no matter how many times you think to push it out of gear before starting, there is always the possibility that one time you may forget and that very well could be tragic! Since it has an electric start from then on, I always get up on seat to crank the tractor. That's my story, kind of embarrassing but shows that I had been lucky in remembering all those years to take it out of gear and really lucky when it did happen to not be injured! God gave me a second chance and split second wisdom to let the tractor crash into the woods if had be instead of trying to jump onto it to save it. Let it go!
Thanks for doing this video ! My 4630 Ford will start in gear. I work out here alone far from help so Ive had to remind myself to do it right. My Grandfather told me when I was little that "you might get away with a bad habit for 20 years or it might Hurt you the very next time you do it." "Take the time to do it right." I hope your Friend has a speedy recovery. Best Wishes! M.H.
Hope the guy is ok! It's a good reminder. I learned this the hard way when I was a kid, although I was not quite so complacent, with a family friend's old Farmall A. You had to start start that tractor with the crank--I can't remember whether it even had electric start. I did reach up and waggle the gearshift and I thought it was in neutral. However, there was quite a bit more play in the shifter than we had on our own Farmalls, so it felt ok to me. I walked around, cranked it, and it started in gear! However, I got lucky. I went to back up, tripped, and fell on my butt. Just then the tractor stalled. I briefly gave thanks to my Maker, then did what we all do right after surviving doing something dumb. I looked around to make sure no one was looking! No one else was around, so I learned this particular lesson and got to skip the ridicule. Whew.
Just had this happen last Saturday with our 1953 Ford NAA. Thank god it was really in reverse and I hit the clutch promptly! If I hadn’t it may have gone through the back wall, which would have been bad on several points as the new buyer for the tractor was due to arrive in less than an hour AND we we closing on the property that afternoon. I would have had lots of explaining to do then! I just decided to ALWAYS be in the drivers seat from now on when starting them.
I learned that lesson with my grandfather with starting his 1948 Cub. He for years always left it in neutral, and I as a 9 year old kid had been messing with the shifter and put it in reverse before asking him to start it and teach me how to drive it. He proceeded to start the tractor without checking for neutral and it drove itself backwards through the barn smashing multiple small things including a pair of vintage bicycles in the process. We were both fine but scared the crap out of us! Never started a tractor without checking for neutral since!
That is why there are so many safety switches on modern tractors. There is a switch on the seat so if you get off the tractor shuts down. There is one on the transmission so you can't start if it is in gear. One on the PTO so if you get off the tractor it shuts down. I grew up around tractor and heavy equipment all my life. There are many people today buying tractor that know nothing about them. I was a mechanic for a John Deere dealer and saw a lot of this first hand. Great thing about TH-cam is it is a great place to get information. If you buy a tractor do some research and learn about them so you can stay safe. Great video.
My father pounded that into my head. "If ya ain't in the seat, don't hit the switch". It's a lesson that I still practice today. Don't matter if it's a truck or a tractor or any machine.
A guy that use to buy calves in north east Montana. His son was hooping up a battery charger to a JD 4440 I think. The charger clamp hit the solenoid terminal on the starter, the tractor started, went up against a concrete wall in the machine shed. The son got killed. I think that the dad quit buying calves. That happened because the tractor was not in park, the fuel shut off was in the run position, the throttle lever was not at minimum idle speed, the son hooking up the booster charger with the charger on, the charger contacted the battery terminal of the starter solenoid and the solenoid terminal. This happened before 1990, because in 1990 I was putting shields on John Deeres. From 1010 to the 8640 series, I think, that was 30 years ago. Now you know why that hateful shield is in your way when you go to work on starter wires. The father use to buy my neighbors calves every fall. Stay safe! Hello from north east Montana.
80W90 is fine in the rear end. Never leave a running tractor in gear, that's the moral of the story. That's how my dad and I were taught. My grandpa used to get really angry with anyone who did leave a tractor in gear. Hand start tractors you don't have the option of starting the tractor from the seat. My dad, all his siblings and I learned to drive the same 1944 W-4, which is equipped with a magneto, and they have a spot to carry a crank in the frame on the left side, so if the battery is weak, we crank it. Where the crank is carried on them, you're nowhere near the gear shift, so it's very important to ensure that when you leave the tractor, you leave it in neutral. When we run the grain auger with a typically with a W-4 or Super-W-4, we always start from the front and leave the PTO in gear. The reason we do that, is another huge danger: a rotating PTO shaft. With the older Farmalls and standard tread tractors, You don't have the option of mounting or dismounting up front. So we leave PTO in gear, and start from up front, and that eliminates the danger of getting entangled in the PTO. But, I'm going to say you have the right idea but the wrong lesson: The right lesson is never leave a tractor in gear. It's a good idea to both never start from the side and never leave it in gear. It's also important to ensure the tractor is in neutral first, which, it always should be.
i’ve used the starter to move the tractor off the road when it ran out of fuel on the super m i’ve used the starter to load the deere A on the trailer to bring it home from auction i’ve used the starter to drive the car into the garage when the distributor quit turning i’ve used the starter to load and unload the truck when the fuel pump quit all done safely from the seat or operator’s platform
Appreciate your safety video. Grew up on a farm, seen many farmers when hitching a drawbar. Leave ignition switch off and bump the starter for that perfect pin position. One day it happened, the tractor started and could have killed the guy but he was lucky. At break we sat around trying to understand what happened. Only thing we came up with was he must have killed the tractor before he got off to put in the pin,so it was ready to start. John Deere and other hand clutch tractors claimed many serious and fatal accidents when hitching an implement.
A few years back we lost a local X Dairyman doing the exact same thing. He was going to load his tractor on a trailer for a parade, killed himself. Thanks for the PSA! It's really easy to get complacent and not be safe. In fact I know two people this has happened to.
I start my JD 520 all the time from the ground. I never have the clutch engaged and in gear except when hauling for chaining down and i start my tractor up before unchaining and so you have to shift to neautral
I learned to drive our W-4 at the age of 8. My dad learned at the age of 4. We still have that 1944 W-4. It has been in the family for 70 years. We have a huge collection of International tractors and of course that's what we farm with. We have a Super H as well. I was taught never to leave a tractor in gear. Pushing the clutch in is not on option when you crank the tractor.
Great message Safety First. We lost two people over the years jumpstarting tractors off the solenoid. I put a ford car solenoid and a key switch on my M Farmall takes the temptation out of starting it on the ground.
Love the sound of the H. So distinctive. That H purrs! I’ve started an H that way a few times. Probably to run a belt drive silo loader or something like that. We modified our starter so you stepped down on it instead of pushing the button.
I ran 2 ms and a 656 diesel with my old man for 35 years. You are absolutely rite about safety. That tractor dont care what it run over. We had a pull type corn picker....very dangerous machine.
I'll keep a long story short by advising everyone to never engage the hand clutch on a old John Deere unless sitting in the seat. I'm thankful to be alive to tell you this.
I've had my Ford 9N slip into gear right before I jumped off to hookup some equipment. Definitely always have to pay attention, thank you and good looking out!
when I was a kid, dad had a Graham Bradly, it had a 6 cylinder Continental I think it was,, anyway, in the winter, the gear oil was so thick that we had to start it with the clutch pushed in and slowly let the clutch out or it would actually kill the engine, and shortly the oil would get thin enough that it would sit and idle in neutral. times were rough back then, we couldn't afford to change engine oil regularly so dad just had straight 30 wt oil, and in the winter we had to put a pan of hot coals from the heating stove under the pan for a while so the engine would start.
Great info. Dad was sitting in the set and started the tractor. He stepped down on the clutch real quick or he would have drove the tractor out the back of my garage making a new door.
My dad bought a 1953 Ferguson TO30 new. It had 4 forward gears, reverse and a start position on the shifter.There was a selenoid inside the top of the transmission that the shifting fork hit. Turn the key on, move the shift lever to the right and up to start, no way to start the tractor in gear. None the less it is a really good idea to be in the saddle when you start any equipment.
To answer your question. The Ford N series will not start in gear and I'm pretty sure even the models after that were the same way until neutral safety switches became the norm. I remember years ago I was starting my John Deere A hand start (flipping the flyweel) and it was in gear. Thankfully it just gave off one good pop and lunged forward and stalled out. Scared me. Never made that mistake again. 😆 Great video! Never hurts to be reminded of danger.
Growing up on the farm,we would frequently start our tractor by coasting down our hill and let out the clutch with the tractor in gear. Just another routine procedure. My uncle bought a 3920 JD power shift tractor. It was hooked to the baler with a wagon in tow. I did the same thing as usual, planning to bump start the tractor. Much to my surprise, I found out that JD had no brakes or steering, and couldn't be bump started. My dad never found out how close I came to damaging that new tractor.
good job! yes it is very important both air cleaner and starting. I have had a tractor start and move when the clutch was in. Truned out the disc was froze to the flywheel
I’m definitely the biggest hazard around equipment!!😂 That’s some excellent advice my man!!! If your butts not in the seat.... don’t turn on the heat!!!! BOOM 💥
Nice video! ! I have a 38 farmall 14. It is hand crank an will start in gear if you crank in gear an it fire's up. Hope you're friend makes full recovery!! Best of luck for him!
Boy! You are right about people being the biggest hazard! Thanks for letting new owners of these old tracors what to watch for Farmall!! I hope alls well for you!! Have a good one!
Good point, threw the years I heard of quite a few people that did the same thing. Some of them are no longer with us. Thanks for sharing this information👍
Got my vote 👍🏼 I remember you talking about it in another video too I never do that now I don’t think I would anyway because I used to run every equipment and I heard of somebody else getting killed by one of them tires backing over him
You are so right. I worked on a farm from a young lad up until about 16. My Grandfather taut me so much. years back horses pulling a wagon filled with sheathes of grain feeding a stationary thrashing machine. You never work over a live belt and I never forgot that. I have seen this done on TH-cam video's and live at the fairgrounds. very dangerous! one slip and you are on that belt.
That tractor is goooorgeous!! I’m going to have to send ya picks somehow of my papaw’s old tractor and plow! I remember riding on it with him many many tines growing up and him even letting me help drive it. I have my dad watching your channel as well my friend and we both truly enjoy it. Thank you as always for great videos, me being a country Kentucky gal I truly enjoy videos like this. I grew up an only child so my dad taught me to work a bit on vehicles, fish and even do a bit of farming too. Don’t let my girly-ness fool ya, lol... I’m not afraid to get my hands and nails dirty that’s for sure 🤗 that’s awful that man got ran over by his tractor! Reminds me of the old Reece Witherspoon movie The Man in the Moon, her love got ran over and cut up by the plow. It’s a great movie for sure if you like love stories. Anyway Take care my friend and please stay safe! Sending love and prayers ur way. Full watch as always with this gal! ❤️
Great advice, one thing to remember is that many of the Johnny Poppers start by turning the flywheel by hand which puts you right in front of the rear tire. Ii was taught to always put the tractor into reverse then into neutral before shutting it off. That way the last gear it was in is reverse. Old tractors will kill you a hundred ways
I was taught to never leave the tractor in gear to start with. When you hand crank them to start them, you don't have the option of starting them from the seat.
The old ford 9n 2n and 8n came from the factory with neutral lockout starter buttons. The button sat on top of the transmission housing, and you physically could not push the button down without it being in neutral. Though I do know some later model 8n's were switched over to electrical instead of physical lockout.
What a lovely tractor. I have an H but it is handle start only and won't, we have to tow start it. The carburettor leaks like mad so I think I have got to have a tinker. Any idea of the settings?
One thing we were taught to watch when we were growing up on the farm. It helped that my dad was an AG mechanics it had his own shop. What I don't like is old John Deere A they have the flywheel start on the side and yes they will start in gear if you're not careful.
I always put a strap from the tractor to a tree when adjusting a carb or injection pump. On the skid steer like my Bobcats I have easy access to the fuel shutoff solenoid. Faulty shifters on tractors have led to accidents. A friend broke his leg moving hay with this tractor. He went to disconnect the hay wagon and somehow the tractor went into gear as he was going to get back on.
Also never run a tractor while standing up. Had a neighbor get knocked off and tractor ran over his head. He survived but required reconstructive surgery with titanium plates. Heard anything for sure about if sale is this weekend or postponed? Website still says the 28th but I heard rumor about being postponed.
I know my buddies ford 6600 wont start unless the high and low lever is in neutral I wont start them with out the gear shift in neutral and brakes locked
My father caught me starting our tractor like that once when I was about 12 years old. Lets just say I didn't do it like that again. Soon after he rigged a switch that would only allow the starter to engage when the clutch was disengaged. Farms in those days weeded out the dumb and unlucky pretty quickly. All sorts of ways to get hurt or killed.
I've got a collection of vintage Fordson N's and e27n's which are crank start (from the front) ye need to make sure there out of gear or you are run over.
My dad had a close call with our 1066 open station. Luckily he was on his toes 24/7 and was on the clutch side. On another note, you can't beat the old Farmall letter series tractors. I cut my teeth on a Super H raking hay when I was 7. We had 2-Super C's, 2-H's, a Super H, 2-Super M-TA's and the 1066 my grandpa bought new.
@@FarmallFanatic at least it was equipped with a parking brake and it had to be in neutral to engage it. But it would start as long as the key was on and the throttle opened. And ours didn't have the hydraulic clutch so it had to take quite a bit to pull that clutch down by hand.
LOL my first day on the job as a mechanic in a Toyota dealer I used a remote starter switch to start the car I was working on. It was in gear lurched forward and started. Drove itself into the work bench at the end of my bay. Fortunately the only thing hurt or damaged was my ego.
I hope the guy will be ok . I have always been leary about starting a tractor when i'm not in the seat . I can see how it would be easy to forget if your in a hurry .
Guilty as charged !! That may be my videos you refer to. Lol. Old habits die hard, but it’s better for the habit to be put to rest than yourself. Like many out there I’ve been around these things since I learned how to walk but your key point is totally correct. Complacency kills with this or any machine. Thanks for a good reminder FF !!
@@FarmallFanatic hahahaha..I know, at least if they've been around 'em a while they have. The old man drilled it in my head time after time to ''be sure the damn thing is in neutral'' starting like this. None of our row crop Masseys had steps on the clutch side and we'd either have to start from the side when using a pto driven stationary machine or step down off the tractor after starting over the now running shaft. The main thing is maintaining awareness of the situation continually. I don't know how many times I heard ''take your head outta your a- - '' !! Hahahaha, oh man, the good old days huh. Be safe and take care sir. Here's hoping you have a good planting season.
James Smith I started out on a 641 Workmaster, Idk about the 8Ns, but on that one if the shifter is in gear it locks out the starter button. Ironically my dad managed to run himself over with it a couple years ago, but not due to starting it from the ground. He stopped to talk to a friend who came by, and left it idling. The guys kid noticed it was starting to roll, so he ran over and tried to catch it but slipped off. Broken ribs, collapsed lung, among other injuries. But he came out of it fine. Damn lucky.
The old John Deeres were the very same hazard. We had our farm sale in Mar of 86. We had my 720 diesel down town in a heated shop so that it would start. When I got dropped off to pick it up and drive it back to the farm, the shop owner was livid with me for leaving the tractor in gear with the hand clutch pushed in. He was going to start it and run it out side and leave it running for me. I to this day do not know why he tried to start it from the ground. It fired right up and almost took the end of his shop out. It was always my fault with him when infant, he did a very foolish thing and was lucky enough to live to be mad at me and blame me.
We have an Allis D14 that for some odd reason has a push button on the selenoid mounted right on the starter. You can't start it from the seat. Why? I make double sure it is in neutral and that the hi/lo lever is also in neutral, but it just irks me that it is made like that!!!
Great safety tip BUT. ... That's great practice for a modern electric start. There are tractors that start with a crank. Yes they will start in gear too! Common sense and NEVER hurry!
Even in my crank start days, I would have someone get in the seat before cranking it. I realize that's not always possible but if you can do it that is the way to do it.
You may want to look at Synthetic rear end oil. The good thing about it is you do not have to change it from summer to winter. We used to do the oil changes on our loaders and dozers in the Arctic till we switched to a Mobil Synthetic.
We use 80W-90 and it works fine. We have a 1944 W-4 which is the standard tread version of the H. It has been in the family for 70 years. We're in Alberta, Canada. My grandpa farmed a half section of land with just that tractor for 11 years and still used it heavily after that. It was overloaded constantly, pulled a 3 bottom plow, hooked to a packer wheel and a Pony drill behind. It powered a wooden 28X46" threshing machine with all babbit bearings. It ran in the coldest days of the winter and the warmest days in the summer. It has at least 50000 hours. Dad rebearinged the transmission in 1988 and it had all the original bearings throughout. It probably ran 90 oil in the rear end all that time. There were no synthetics in those days, but the little tractor still runs just fine.
What sucks is the old two cylinder model B deeres you have to start from the ground. You have to choke it at the carb and set your decompression cocks from the ground too. The only saving grace is the hand clutch and the way the gear pattern is arranged they’re difficult to accidentally pop into gear.
Is there some way to latch the clutch disengaged? Or is leaving the tractor in gear a form of parking break? For serious stuff I form a specific way of doing a task and make a habit of doing it that way every time. Every time.
When I had manual shift cars I would park them in first gear instead of using the frequently useless rusted parking brake. Always pushed in the cluch while shifting to neutral before trying to start. Did very little work around farm machinery. Just enough to realize most of the older stuff is very dangerous.
We never started our tractors from the ground. I had a friend back in the early 70's who had a wire attached to the gear shift because it was jumping out gear , he took it out of gear and climbed down and walked in front of the rear wheel, when he reached across the wire he put it in gear by tension on the wire. Tractor ran over him was in plowed field and it turned just in time for the wheel to roll off his shoulder and miss his head.. he walked away badly shaken , bruised and Lucky .
If you have time I could use a little guidance. Just bought 2 Farmall 140 tractors. Both are 6V and the book says 6V should be positive ground. One I'm working on has negative ground and appears to be charging well with the generator. Both tractors were listed as "restored". Other tractor I haven't got to yet is the positive ground.Both have new regulators. From what I understand it is possible to change the charging orientation of a generator by a simple arc of the field post.Should I leave the negative ground as it is or dig deeper? My concern is eventual damage to coil and/or capacitor.One with negative ground is running as smooth as silk.
By running it with a negative ground, you are losing about 20% of your spark efficency. Hook it up as a positive ground, polarize it & it should have better performance...that's probably what the previous owner did... If you are not having problems with either, don't touch them.
@@FarmallFanatic Thank you very much! Little engine is running as smooth as can be. Only load test I can do so far is traversing up inclines: governor working well and tractor seems to pull the inclines well. I'll leave it like it is for now. Thanks again! Got videos up if you want to see them. The one I'm talking about has shifter issue that I'm working through.
The generator can charge either way. Some regulators can work either polarity, usually the 6V ones are positive ground only. It should be marked on the regulator. To change the polarity of the charging system on the one that appears to be negative ground, hook it up positive ground and take a piece of wire with bared ends and momentarily short it between the BAT term and the GEN terminal on the regulator. This polarizes the charging system.
Also it is important to confirm the coil is polarized right. If it's positive ground, the + terminal of the coil must be hooked to the distributor and the power from the ignition switch must be hooked to the - terminal. On negative ground, hook it opposite.
Rule number one: only start your tractor from your seat. There are two exceptions to that rule a hand crank start or the John Deere flywheel start. I have seen it happen where a big strong guy could start a cranked engine with it in gear but he wasn't lined up with a tire. A John Deere was a different story with it's hand clutch because you had to disengage the clutch to stop moving then stop the engine so your clutch was disengaged except for the nimrod who left it engaged but then the flywheel was so hard to move you couldn't get it started. Your air cleaner is called an oil bath air cleaner..The service interval is daily. Take the bowl off and dump the oil in the used oil barrel, clean out the dirt ( I usually used a screwdriver), clean the bowl with gasoline to get the remaining oil and dirt out and fill to the mark with fresh oil and remount it to the tractor. The oil bath cleaner was a very effective air cleaner but it had to be serviced every day. Now the paper air filter isn't serviced for weeks.
When I start mine from the ground I crank the starter with the ignition in the OFF position. This shows that the transmission is in neutral. I crank it for a couple of seconds.
Another hazard to antique tractors is the hand clutch type. John deere had them J.I Case had them we have a hand clutch on a Case DC and a Case SC. I can remember many times my grandfather would back the SC up to some equipment and wasn't close enough so standing behind the tractor he would touch the clutch to creep it back so he could hook up all it would have taken was the clutch to get pushed forward enough to lock and the tractor would have kept on going. How he never got hurt is beyond me but again that is another hazard with antique tractors in my opinion. Today we always have someone in the seat and someone hook up, just a more safe way to do it.
Many years ago I had a college Prof accidentally die when his tractot rolled over onto him. Roll over accidents with tractors are not unusual, but he had to be unique in how he did it. He got a chainsaw stuck in a tree limb he was pruning. He got his tractor and attached a chain to the 3pt top link bracket. He then proceeded to flip the tractor over on top of himself. If he attached to the drawbar, or some other lower spot on the tractor it probably would not have happened.
Rotuine maitaince mate it's sensible with any machine. He's very lucky. The ford 4000 wouldn't start in gear the Mf35 had a switch the box to believe. Useful information mate. All make sure she's in Neutral.👍
Let me give you an Amen on this video! Probably the most important video you will ever post. I have a 1948 M Farmall with narrow wheels on front end. I have spent countless hours on this tractor for about 35 years, tinkering with it, getting off and standing beside it while it was running or starting it, always checking that it was out of gear if starting it while standing beside it. A few months ago, I got off tractor after running it awhile, it was idling too fast. standing in front of rear wheels in front of carb, in a hurry, fixated on getting that idle correct. I had a bushhog hooked to it. I reached over and turned the switch to crank and it started forward in 2nd gear. Rear tires bumped me and I only had time to run out of way of it. It slowly veered to the left down toward the woods. Since it had the bushhog behind it, I let it go instead of trying to jump on it from the rear. Luckily, before it reached the woods, it reached a large pine log that I had lying on ground. The front wheels jumped over the log but the rear wheels just slowly started spinning against the log. I jumped over and yanked the coil wire off and shut off the tractor.
I don't smoke, but if there had been a cigarette around I would have lit one up after that!
So, it goes to show no matter how many times you think to push it out of gear before starting, there is always the possibility that one time you may forget and that very well could be tragic!
Since it has an electric start from then on, I always get up on seat to crank the tractor. That's my story, kind of embarrassing but shows that I had been lucky in remembering all those years to take it out of gear and really lucky when it did happen to not be injured! God gave me a second chance and split second wisdom to let the tractor crash into the woods if had be instead of trying to jump onto it to save it. Let it go!
Definitely wasn't your time to go! 👍
I just pictured that whole situation in my head and oh, that must've been scary!
Thanks for doing this video ! My 4630 Ford will start in gear. I work out here alone far from help so Ive had to remind myself to do it right.
My Grandfather told me when I was little that "you might get away with a bad habit for 20 years or it might Hurt you the very next time you do it." "Take the time to do it right."
I hope your Friend has a speedy recovery.
Best Wishes! M.H.
My shop teacher did this on his farm. Got run over and broke his back. Good reminder
So easy to make a mistake when we are doing things in a hurry. Good video with an important topic
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Hope the guy is ok! It's a good reminder. I learned this the hard way when I was a kid, although I was not quite so complacent, with a family friend's old Farmall A. You had to start start that tractor with the crank--I can't remember whether it even had electric start. I did reach up and waggle the gearshift and I thought it was in neutral. However, there was quite a bit more play in the shifter than we had on our own Farmalls, so it felt ok to me. I walked around, cranked it, and it started in gear! However, I got lucky. I went to back up, tripped, and fell on my butt. Just then the tractor stalled. I briefly gave thanks to my Maker, then did what we all do right after surviving doing something dumb. I looked around to make sure no one was looking! No one else was around, so I learned this particular lesson and got to skip the ridicule. Whew.
Just had this happen last Saturday with our 1953 Ford NAA. Thank god it was really in reverse and I hit the clutch promptly! If I hadn’t it may have gone through the back wall, which would have been bad on several points as the new buyer for the tractor was due to arrive in less than an hour AND we we closing on the property that afternoon. I would have had lots of explaining to do then! I just decided to ALWAYS be in the drivers seat from now on when starting them.
I learned that lesson with my grandfather with starting his 1948 Cub. He for years always left it in neutral, and I as a 9 year old kid had been messing with the shifter and put it in reverse before asking him to start it and teach me how to drive it. He proceeded to start the tractor without checking for neutral and it drove itself backwards through the barn smashing multiple small things including a pair of vintage bicycles in the process. We were both fine but scared the crap out of us! Never started a tractor without checking for neutral since!
That is why there are so many safety switches on modern tractors. There is a switch on the seat so if you get off the tractor shuts down. There is one on the transmission so you can't start if it is in gear. One on the PTO so if you get off the tractor it shuts down. I grew up around tractor and heavy equipment all my life. There are many people today buying tractor that know nothing about them. I was a mechanic for a John Deere dealer and saw a lot of this first hand. Great thing about TH-cam is it is a great place to get information. If you buy a tractor do some research and learn about them so you can stay safe. Great video.
Thanks for keeping the videos flowing during tough times..
Thank you for watching 👍
My father pounded that into my head. "If ya ain't in the seat, don't hit the switch". It's a lesson that I still practice today. Don't matter if it's a truck or a tractor or any machine.
That is what I was told also
good reminder for everyone. thank you for taking time to do this video. You probably just saved someone's loved ones a lot of grief.
Im hoping so...thank you for watching!
A guy that use to buy calves in north east Montana. His son was hooping up a battery charger to a JD 4440 I think. The charger clamp hit the solenoid terminal on the starter, the tractor started, went up against a concrete wall in the machine shed. The son got killed. I think that the dad quit buying calves. That happened because the tractor was not in park, the fuel shut off was in the run position, the throttle lever was not at minimum idle speed, the son hooking up the booster charger with the charger on, the charger contacted the battery terminal of the starter solenoid and the solenoid terminal. This happened before 1990, because in 1990 I was putting shields on John Deeres. From 1010 to the 8640 series, I think, that was 30 years ago. Now you know why that hateful shield is in your way when you go to work on starter wires.
The father use to buy my neighbors calves every fall.
Stay safe!
Hello from north east Montana.
80W90 is fine in the rear end. Never leave a running tractor in gear, that's the moral of the story. That's how my dad and I were taught. My grandpa used to get really angry with anyone who did leave a tractor in gear. Hand start tractors you don't have the option of starting the tractor from the seat. My dad, all his siblings and I learned to drive the same 1944 W-4, which is equipped with a magneto, and they have a spot to carry a crank in the frame on the left side, so if the battery is weak, we crank it. Where the crank is carried on them, you're nowhere near the gear shift, so it's very important to ensure that when you leave the tractor, you leave it in neutral. When we run the grain auger with a typically with a W-4 or Super-W-4, we always start from the front and leave the PTO in gear. The reason we do that, is another huge danger: a rotating PTO shaft. With the older Farmalls and standard tread tractors, You don't have the option of mounting or dismounting up front. So we leave PTO in gear, and start from up front, and that eliminates the danger of getting entangled in the PTO. But, I'm going to say you have the right idea but the wrong lesson: The right lesson is never leave a tractor in gear. It's a good idea to both never start from the side and never leave it in gear. It's also important to ensure the tractor is in neutral first, which, it always should be.
i’ve used the starter to move the tractor off the road when it ran out of fuel on the super m
i’ve used the starter to load the deere A on the trailer to bring it home from auction
i’ve used the starter to drive the car into the garage when the distributor quit turning
i’ve used the starter to load and unload the truck when the fuel pump quit
all done safely from the seat or operator’s platform
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I never leave my tractors in gear once i shut them off.. i always check to make sure both my tractors are crank start.
What I had crank start tractors, I would always put someone in the seat if I could
@@FarmallFanatic That works to if you have another person around LOL
Appreciate your safety video. Grew up on a farm, seen many farmers when hitching a drawbar. Leave ignition switch off and bump the starter for that perfect pin position. One day it happened, the tractor started and could have killed the guy but he was lucky. At break we sat around trying to understand what happened. Only thing we came up with was he must have killed the tractor before he got off to put in the pin,so it was ready to start. John Deere and other hand clutch tractors claimed many serious and fatal accidents when hitching an implement.
A few years back we lost a local X Dairyman doing the exact same thing. He was going to load his tractor on a trailer for a parade, killed himself. Thanks for the PSA! It's really easy to get complacent and not be safe. In fact I know two people this has happened to.
Unreal
I start my JD 520 all the time from the ground. I never have the clutch engaged and in gear except when hauling for chaining down and i start my tractor up before unchaining and so you have to shift to neautral
Safety first ! I learned to drive our Super H when I was 8 and my Dad always said start it on the seat and in neutral with the clutch in !
Hard to reach the clutch when you're 8...i remember haha
Farmall Fanatic about the low ash - 30 weight oil ? Is that what I should be using in my IH 504 diesel ? TY,,
I learned to drive our W-4 at the age of 8. My dad learned at the age of 4. We still have that 1944 W-4. It has been in the family for 70 years. We have a huge collection of International tractors and of course that's what we farm with. We have a Super H as well. I was taught never to leave a tractor in gear. Pushing the clutch in is not on option when you crank the tractor.
Thanks for the informative video and safety tips!
Thank you for watching!
Great message Safety First. We lost two people over the years jumpstarting tractors off the solenoid. I put a ford car solenoid and a key switch on my M Farmall takes the temptation out of starting it on the ground.
Good call
Love the sound of the H. So distinctive. That H purrs! I’ve started an H that way a few times. Probably to run a belt drive silo loader or something like that. We modified our starter so you stepped down on it instead of pushing the button.
Yeah that's how my M is set up
Awesome advice! By to catch up on your videos. Stay safe out there! ✌🧡
Good points. I start my M from the ground sometimes. I need to rethink that maybe. On the oil subject, I think people trust the sludge to do the job.
Please do...no surviving an M running you over
I ran 2 ms and a 656 diesel with my old man for 35 years. You are absolutely rite about safety. That tractor dont care what it run over.
We had a pull type corn picker....very dangerous machine.
Absolutely 💯
I hope he’s going to be ok. Great reminder - it only takes one small mistake to change everything.
I'll keep a long story short by advising everyone to never engage the hand clutch on a old John Deere unless sitting in the seat. I'm thankful to be alive to tell you this.
Wow...glad to hear it
Your not supposed to leave them disengaged. It tempers out the springs in the clutch.
I've had my Ford 9N slip into gear right before I jumped off to hookup some equipment. Definitely always have to pay attention, thank you and good looking out!
when I was a kid, dad had a Graham Bradly, it had a 6 cylinder Continental I think it was,, anyway, in the winter, the gear oil was so thick that we had to start it with the clutch pushed in and slowly let the clutch out or it would actually kill the engine, and shortly the oil would get thin enough that it would sit and idle in neutral. times were rough back then, we couldn't afford to change engine oil regularly so dad just had straight 30 wt oil, and in the winter we had to put a pan of hot coals from the heating stove under the pan for a while so the engine would start.
Great info. Dad was sitting in the set and started the tractor. He stepped down on the clutch real quick or he would have drove the tractor out the back of my garage making a new door.
My dad bought a 1953 Ferguson TO30 new. It had 4 forward gears, reverse and a start position on the shifter.There was a selenoid inside the top of the transmission that the shifting fork hit. Turn the key on, move the shift lever to the right and up to start, no way to start the tractor in gear. None the less it is a really good idea to be in the saddle when you start any equipment.
Agree
Great video Grant and you are spot on and 100 correct
Grew up on a farm running tractors for years and would have never thought of starting a tractor unless sitting in the seat.
To answer your question. The Ford N series will not start in gear and I'm pretty sure even the models after that were the same way until neutral safety switches became the norm.
I remember years ago I was starting my John Deere A hand start (flipping the flyweel) and it was in gear. Thankfully it just gave off one good pop and lunged forward and stalled out. Scared me. Never made that mistake again. 😆
Great video! Never hurts to be reminded of danger.
That would definitely be a wake up
Wow! That is important information to have!
Stay safe,
Rob
Great information and safety tips
" The biggest hazard ....... is you." How true. Thanks!
Well said and executed, Farmall. Full-watch. 👍
Growing up on the farm,we would frequently start our tractor by coasting down our hill and let out the clutch with the tractor in gear. Just another routine procedure. My uncle bought a 3920 JD power shift tractor. It was hooked to the baler with a wagon in tow. I did the same thing as usual, planning to bump start the tractor. Much to my surprise, I found out that JD had no brakes or steering, and couldn't be bump started. My dad never found out how close I came to damaging that new tractor.
Probably saved you a serious something lol
I was lucky enough not to get hurt when my H followed me up some steps on the porch. ALWAYS double check it’s in neutral!
That is crazy man
good job! yes it is very important both air cleaner and starting. I have had a tractor start and move when the clutch was in. Truned out the disc was froze to the flywheel
On the farms Ford 8N & NAA, you can not push the starter button down unless it is in neutral.
Hello from north east Montana.
They had it right
I’m definitely the biggest hazard around equipment!!😂 That’s some excellent advice my man!!! If your butts not in the seat.... don’t turn on the heat!!!! BOOM 💥
Gave me a hole new perspective. Thanks
Nice video! ! I have a 38 farmall 14. It is hand crank an will start in gear if you crank in gear an it fire's up. Hope you're friend makes full recovery!! Best of luck for him!
thank you for sharing the information
Boy! You are right about people being the biggest hazard! Thanks for letting new owners of these old tracors what to watch for Farmall!! I hope alls well for you!! Have a good one!
How is your Farmall running?
@@FarmallFanatic I haven't fired it up yet this year! To much work on the job!!
You re right my 39 9N will not start in gear, there is a mechanical block on the starter button. I always start my tractor seated.
Good point, threw the years I heard of quite a few people that did the same thing. Some of them are no longer with us.
Thanks for sharing this information👍
Yup, even when I crank started I always tried to have someone on the seat
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Good idea, Safety first👍
Got my vote 👍🏼 I remember you talking about it in another video too I never do that now I don’t think I would anyway because I used to run every equipment and I heard of somebody else getting killed by one of them tires backing over him
You are so right. I worked on a farm from a young lad up until about 16. My Grandfather taut me so much.
years back horses pulling a wagon filled with sheathes of grain feeding a stationary thrashing machine.
You never work over a live belt and I never forgot that. I have seen this done on TH-cam video's and live at the fairgrounds.
very dangerous! one slip and you are on that belt.
I totally agree
wow tyfs That is good infor. We have gotten rain here for the last 7 nights pretty wet here too. You and your family have a great day and be safe.
It's amazing how different it is your to year. Last year I was in the field already.
@@FarmallFanatic Ya u are right about that. Craig and I are worried we won't get corn in this year.
That tractor is goooorgeous!! I’m going to have to send ya picks somehow of my papaw’s old tractor and plow! I remember riding on it with him many many tines growing up and him even letting me help drive it. I have my dad watching your channel as well my friend and we both truly enjoy it. Thank you as always for great videos, me being a country Kentucky gal I truly enjoy videos like this. I grew up an only child so my dad taught me to work a bit on vehicles, fish and even do a bit of farming too. Don’t let my girly-ness fool ya, lol... I’m not afraid to get my hands and nails dirty that’s for sure 🤗 that’s awful that man got ran over by his tractor! Reminds me of the old Reece Witherspoon movie The Man in the Moon, her love got ran over and cut up by the plow. It’s a great movie for sure if you like love stories. Anyway Take care my friend and please stay safe! Sending love and prayers ur way. Full watch as always with this gal! ❤️
It took many of those kind of accidents for manufacturers to start to come up with ways to prevent that from happening
Great advice, one thing to remember is that many of the Johnny Poppers start by turning the flywheel by hand which puts you right in front of the rear tire. Ii was taught to always put the tractor into reverse then into neutral before shutting it off. That way the last gear it was in is reverse. Old tractors will kill you a hundred ways
Absolutely
The Fergusson Tractor I learned to drive in the Early 1950's you had to depress the clutch and the starter operated with the gear stick.
It couldn't be in gear because you had to push the stick into the start position to crank the engine. Good safety feature.
Yikes! That’s some scary stuff! Never turn it on while in front of the tire 😱. I hope he will recover and not have permanent damage 🙏🏼
Ribs and arm broke
I was taught to never leave the tractor in gear to start with. When you hand crank them to start them, you don't have the option of starting them from the seat.
The old ford 9n 2n and 8n came from the factory with neutral lockout starter buttons. The button sat on top of the transmission housing, and you physically could not push the button down without it being in neutral. Though I do know some later model 8n's were switched over to electrical instead of physical lockout.
Either way you weren't going to die by starting it
Great PSA...I have seen it happen a couple times...
What a lovely tractor. I have an H but it is handle start only and won't, we have to tow start it. The carburettor leaks like mad so I think I have got to have a tinker. Any idea of the settings?
One thing we were taught to watch when we were growing up on the farm. It helped that my dad was an AG mechanics it had his own shop. What I don't like is old John Deere A they have the flywheel start on the side and yes they will start in gear if you're not careful.
Oh I know
I always put a strap from the tractor to a tree when adjusting a carb or injection pump. On the skid steer like my Bobcats I have easy access to the fuel shutoff solenoid. Faulty shifters on tractors have led to accidents. A friend broke his leg moving hay with this tractor. He went to disconnect the hay wagon and somehow the tractor went into gear as he was going to get back on.
Also never run a tractor while standing up. Had a neighbor get knocked off and tractor ran over his head. He survived but required reconstructive surgery with titanium plates.
Heard anything for sure about if sale is this weekend or postponed? Website still says the 28th but I heard rumor about being postponed.
It's postponed until April 18th
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Cold here. Did a 360 in my Civic without trying. No damage, no injury. Almost had to change my drawers.
At that point you might want to walk home
@@FarmallFanatic I didn't have far to go, but man, was it cold.
@@FarmallFanatic I spun that car right around. I was hoping it wouldn't roll. Brain was cranking.
I know my buddies ford 6600 wont start unless the high and low lever is in neutral I wont start them with out the gear shift in neutral and brakes locked
My father caught me starting our tractor like that once when I was about 12 years old. Lets just say I didn't do it like that again. Soon after he rigged a switch that would only allow the starter to engage when the clutch was disengaged. Farms in those days weeded out the dumb and unlucky pretty quickly. All sorts of ways to get hurt or killed.
Surprised you didnt try and outrun your dad to avoid what was coming hahaha
@@FarmallFanatic Lol that was a lesson I learned why before I was 12. Had to eat sometime.
Yea but he might be calmed down by then hahahaha
and most of the people that need to be told this are probably the most stubborn people you'll ever meet and won't listen anyway.
Pretty much
I've got a collection of vintage Fordson N's and e27n's which are crank start (from the front) ye need to make sure there out of gear or you are run over.
My dad had a close call with our 1066 open station. Luckily he was on his toes 24/7 and was on the clutch side. On another note, you can't beat the old Farmall letter series tractors. I cut my teeth on a Super H raking hay when I was 7. We had 2-Super C's, 2-H's, a Super H, 2-Super M-TA's and the 1066 my grandpa bought new.
1066 would have done it
@@FarmallFanatic at least it was equipped with a parking brake and it had to be in neutral to engage it. But it would start as long as the key was on and the throttle opened. And ours didn't have the hydraulic clutch so it had to take quite a bit to pull that clutch down by hand.
@@grantpeterson2987 adrenaline lol
LOL my first day on the job as a mechanic in a Toyota dealer I used a remote starter switch to start the car I was working on. It was in gear lurched forward and started. Drove itself into the work bench at the end of my bay. Fortunately the only thing hurt or damaged was my ego.
Wow lol
I hope the guy will be ok . I have always been leary about starting a tractor when i'm not in the seat . I can see how it would be easy to forget if your in a hurry .
Broken ribs and arm
@@FarmallFanatic could have been a lot worse .
Yep
Wow, I hope he will be ok!
Broken ribs and arm
This will be very helpful since ill be restoring an old allis chalmers.
Wow great info bud !
That's a hard lesson to learn. I learned that the hard way as a kid.
Guilty as charged !! That may be my videos you refer to. Lol. Old habits die hard, but it’s better for the habit to be put to rest than yourself. Like many out there I’ve been around these things since I learned how to walk but your key point is totally correct. Complacency kills with this or any machine. Thanks for a good reminder FF !!
No it was someone else, but everyone has done it
@@FarmallFanatic hahahaha..I know, at least if they've been around 'em a while they have. The old man drilled it in my head time after time to ''be sure the damn thing is in neutral'' starting like this. None of our row crop Masseys had steps on the clutch side and we'd either have to start from the side when using a pto driven stationary machine or step down off the tractor after starting over the now running shaft. The main thing is maintaining awareness of the situation continually. I don't know how many times I heard ''take your head outta your a- - '' !! Hahahaha, oh man, the good old days huh. Be safe and take care sir. Here's hoping you have a good planting season.
One of the first thing dad always told me, make sure the tractor is in neutral!
Ass in seat
My 8n's have the neutral safety switch. As a lad my father instilled many safety tips from accidents caused also by complacency .
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James Smith I started out on a 641 Workmaster, Idk about the 8Ns, but on that one if the shifter is in gear it locks out the starter button. Ironically my dad managed to run himself over with it a couple years ago, but not due to starting it from the ground. He stopped to talk to a friend who came by, and left it idling. The guys kid noticed it was starting to roll, so he ran over and tried to catch it but slipped off. Broken ribs, collapsed lung, among other injuries. But he came out of it fine. Damn lucky.
The old John Deeres were the very same hazard. We had our farm sale in Mar of 86. We had my 720 diesel down town in a heated shop so that it would start. When I got dropped off to pick it up and drive it back to the farm, the shop owner was livid with me for leaving the tractor in gear with the hand clutch pushed in. He was going to start it and run it out side and leave it running for me. I to this day do not know why he tried to start it from the ground. It fired right up and almost took the end of his shop out. It was always my fault with him when infant, he did a very foolish thing and was lucky enough to live to be mad at me and blame me.
We have an Allis D14 that for some odd reason has a push button on the selenoid mounted right on the starter. You can't start it from the seat. Why? I make double sure it is in neutral and that the hi/lo lever is also in neutral, but it just irks me that it is made like that!!!
Can you make a rod to push it from the seat?
I just picked up a 1949 farmall cub , needs a few parts, starter and a carb, any suggestion on where to pick them up at ? Could use a drawbar as well
Ebay. A couple of great carb builders on ebay...one guy is a champion puller.
Great safety tip BUT. ...
That's great practice for a modern electric start. There are tractors that start with a crank. Yes they will start in gear too!
Common sense and NEVER hurry!
Even in my crank start days, I would have someone get in the seat before cranking it. I realize that's not always possible but if you can do it that is the way to do it.
So what do you do when crank starting or turning the flywheel start of a JD????
If I can, have someone sitting in the seat while I'm doing it. If not, make sure the brakes are locked in double check that it's out of gear.
You ensure the tractor is left in neutral . Anyone who leaves it in gear, kick them in the ass as hard as possible preferably with a steel toed boot.
You may want to look at Synthetic rear end oil. The good thing about it is you do not have to change it from summer to winter. We used to do the oil changes on our loaders and dozers in the Arctic till we switched to a Mobil Synthetic.
It has definitely crossed my mind
We use 80W-90 and it works fine. We have a 1944 W-4 which is the standard tread version of the H. It has been in the family for 70 years. We're in Alberta, Canada. My grandpa farmed a half section of land with just that tractor for 11 years and still used it heavily after that. It was overloaded constantly, pulled a 3 bottom plow, hooked to a packer wheel and a Pony drill behind. It powered a wooden 28X46" threshing machine with all babbit bearings. It ran in the coldest days of the winter and the warmest days in the summer. It has at least 50000 hours. Dad rebearinged the transmission in 1988 and it had all the original bearings throughout. It probably ran 90 oil in the rear end all that time. There were no synthetics in those days, but the little tractor still runs just fine.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 For your friend. We all have made those mistakes.
Good advise 🖐prayers for health and safety, brother 💛
Excellent advice
What sucks is the old two cylinder model B deeres you have to start from the ground. You have to choke it at the carb and set your decompression cocks from the ground too. The only saving grace is the hand clutch and the way the gear pattern is arranged they’re difficult to accidentally pop into gear.
Yeah I'm super paranoid now
Is there some way to latch the clutch disengaged? Or is leaving the tractor in gear a form of parking break? For serious stuff I form a specific way of doing a task and make a habit of doing it that way every time. Every time.
A lot of people leave the tractor in gear and forget they left it in gear
When I had manual shift cars I would park them in first gear instead of using the frequently useless rusted parking brake. Always pushed in the cluch while shifting to neutral before trying to start.
Did very little work around farm machinery. Just enough to realize most of the older stuff is very dangerous.
@@gregwarner3753 If you can survive using the antique farm tractors, they sure are fun to use
We never started our tractors from the ground. I had a friend back in the early 70's who had a wire attached to the gear shift because it was jumping out gear , he took it out of gear and climbed down and walked in front of the rear wheel, when he reached across the wire he put it in gear by tension on the wire. Tractor ran over him was in plowed field and it turned just in time for the wheel to roll off his shoulder and miss his head.. he walked away badly shaken , bruised and Lucky .
Wow...no broken bones
If you have time I could use a little guidance. Just bought 2 Farmall 140 tractors. Both are 6V and the book says 6V should be positive ground. One I'm working on has negative ground and appears to be charging well with the generator. Both tractors were listed as "restored". Other tractor I haven't got to yet is the positive ground.Both have new regulators. From what I understand it is possible to change the charging orientation of a generator by a simple arc of the field post.Should I leave the negative ground as it is or dig deeper? My concern is eventual damage to coil and/or capacitor.One with negative ground is running as smooth as silk.
By running it with a negative ground, you are losing about 20% of your spark efficency. Hook it up as a positive ground, polarize it & it should have better performance...that's probably what the previous owner did... If you are not having problems with either, don't touch them.
@@FarmallFanatic Thank you very much! Little engine is running as smooth as can be. Only load test I can do so far is traversing up inclines: governor working well and tractor seems to pull the inclines well. I'll leave it like it is for now. Thanks again! Got videos up if you want to see them. The one I'm talking about has shifter issue that I'm working through.
The generator can charge either way. Some regulators can work either polarity, usually the 6V ones are positive ground only. It should be marked on the regulator. To change the polarity of the charging system on the one that appears to be negative ground, hook it up positive ground and take a piece of wire with bared ends and momentarily short it between the BAT term and the GEN terminal on the regulator. This polarizes the charging system.
Also it is important to confirm the coil is polarized right. If it's positive ground, the + terminal of the coil must be hooked to the distributor and the power from the ignition switch must be hooked to the - terminal. On negative ground, hook it opposite.
Dang, that's scary my friend!
Usefull info! Thanks
Rule number one: only start your tractor from your seat. There are two exceptions to that rule a hand crank start or the John Deere flywheel start. I have seen it happen where a big strong guy could start a cranked engine with it in gear but he wasn't lined up with a tire. A John Deere was a different story with it's hand clutch because you had to disengage the clutch to stop moving then stop the engine so your clutch was disengaged except for the nimrod who left it engaged but then the flywheel was so hard to move you couldn't get it started. Your air cleaner is called an oil bath air cleaner..The service interval is daily. Take the bowl off and dump the oil in the used oil barrel, clean out the dirt ( I usually used a screwdriver), clean the bowl with gasoline to get the remaining oil and dirt out and fill to the mark with fresh oil and remount it to the tractor. The oil bath cleaner was a very effective air cleaner but it had to be serviced every day. Now the paper air filter isn't serviced for weeks.
Great information!
Hi Fantastic video what is the plough called thats behind your tractor.
Little Genius #8
When I start mine from the ground I crank the starter with the ignition in the OFF position. This shows that the transmission is in neutral.
I crank it for a couple of seconds.
Good idea
Another hazard to antique tractors is the hand clutch type. John deere had them J.I Case had them we have a hand clutch on a Case DC and a Case SC. I can remember many times my grandfather would back the SC up to some equipment and wasn't close enough so standing behind the tractor he would touch the clutch to creep it back so he could hook up all it would have taken was the clutch to get pushed forward enough to lock and the tractor would have kept on going. How he never got hurt is beyond me but again that is another hazard with antique tractors in my opinion. Today we always have someone in the seat and someone hook up, just a more safe way to do it.
For sure
Many years ago I had a college Prof accidentally die when his tractot rolled over onto him. Roll over accidents with tractors are not unusual, but he had to be unique in how he did it. He got a chainsaw stuck in a tree limb he was pruning. He got his tractor and attached a chain to the 3pt top link bracket. He then proceeded to flip the tractor over on top of himself. If he attached to the drawbar, or some other lower spot on the tractor it probably would not have happened.
Rotuine maitaince mate it's sensible with any machine. He's very lucky. The ford 4000 wouldn't start in gear the Mf35 had a switch the box to believe. Useful information mate. All make sure she's in Neutral.👍
I pulled out a nuffield universal 4 from a property I bought. The air cleaner oil was sludge the whole way down.
Yea, looks like the previous owner didn't give a crap about this tractor