Had a neighbor man bush hogging with a 1206 hit a hole and the seat broke off and went off the back. Bad day. Word of advise. Check any seat on a open station tractor. The only thing between life and death
We had primarily Farmalls on our dairy farm in the 1960s and 1970s. Dad always told us to keep our tractor speed down, watch side hills, and pay attention. Raking hay with a tricycle type H was fun, but you better always hold on as running your front wheels into a groundhog hole can really upset the Apple cart, as they say. Also, we always had wheel fenders on all our tractors for added protection from falling into or
Another bad habit is standing in front of the rear wheel on the ground and starting it. I’ve done it myself. But I know there’s been guys killed or busted up carelessly forgetting to take them out of gear and running over themselves when it starts.
Good advice in terms of keeping hands on the steering wheel. Another thing that one had to be cautious about was the PTO behind the rear axle. Wearing loose clothing close to that shaft while stepping up from the draw bar can be disastrous in terms of the PTO rotating the shaft on a brush-hog, hay rake or hay bailer. When using a brush-hog on some cotton stalks one day with a Super "C" I stirred up from the ground a swarm of wasp bees attacking me. I jumped off the tractor and ran away from it. Since it was only in first gear and the deep farrows the tractor just keep going straight shredding stalks in low gear. Fifty yards down the way I ran up behind it and jumped up back into the seat from the draw bar. Stayed clear of the area where the bees were. A teenage kid with no fear, must of had a guardian many times driving those red machines on the farm. Wish I still had that "Super "C".
Hi just found your channel. Drove all these tractors growing up. A neighbors son was dragged off a tractor like this by a tree limb while running a bushog . Really drove home to me how careful you have to be.These old tractors are heavy low geared machines that got the job done. Great channel!
Yep, you've gotta be on the toes when operating those antique tractors. I started out with a Farmall H & stepped up to a Farmall M. Both had narrow front ends on them & I always paid attention to what I was doing. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
You could break your thumbs on the stearing wheels and starter cranks. Kickback would break your bones, especially stearing wheels with stearing knobs attached. Pto driven equipment. Tractor mounted corn pickers, claimed many fingers, also bearing failures and fires caused by mechanical failures. Pto hay bailers, sickle mowers, hsmmer mills, silage choppers, even manure spreaders. Had one kid in highschool have a Pto shaft come loose during operation and strike him on head, another guy electrocuted when he folded a disc for transport and contacted a hightension line. One woman in township was killed by a broken winch cable as backlash whipped back while winching a haystack on a underslung haywagon. Long haired wife had her scalp ripped off her skull by a pto grinder mixer. One farmer in vounty to east killed after being ingested in a pto powered feedwagon, then you had belt driven buzz saws
My ol super m I used to have was a narrow front with a westen dorf front end loader on it. Worked great for pushing snow, but super sketchy when that bucket was full and above the front wheels
My grandfather got the first two Farmall tractors with pneumatic tires. that were delivered to Nampa Idaho. and one of them he had fabricated a front end bucket loader onto it. and one day when he was crank starting the tractor the bucket fell on him and broke his back. he recuperated and survived from it, and lived to be 89 years old. it just goes to show how tough some of those old guys could be. because most people don't survive a broken back. safety was less a concern back in those days.
Great points and recommendations and will add that you always need to be ready when pulling in low gears and the implement gets hung up on a stump or rock and will not move; the tractor wheels will not stop and the front end comes up off the ground and the whole tractor will flip backwards pinning the operator between the implement on the bottom and tractor on top. You always need to keep your foot close to the clutch peddle and ready to depress it in a split second or you could be dead. A lot of guys are dead trying to pull stumps with rolling the tractor upside down when pulling the stump; that will not give and/or move. Being the major reason for ROPS on open station tractors; which then lead to cab tractors.
@@FarmallFanatic I was taught these tractor roll overs were the inspiration to the invention of the 3 point hitch. It's the centre bar that prevents roll overs when hooked to an implement. A 3 pt addition isn't just more versatile, it's safer too :)
Love your program sir.when i saw your collection brought me back to 1969..my grandpa used always take me out in the fields with him.i loved sitting so high in the air with the smell of gods earth.thankyou for the memories. God bless
Great advice. I learned since a little boy to hang on tight. But if you're aware of the danger, you respect it and have no problem. When these tractors were built, it was back in the day when people were expected to use their head. And if you did, you were safe. Leaving a tractor in gear when you shut them off definitely poses a danger, as well as live PTOs creeping. Also when these tractors were built, when they were used as stationary power units, they typically used a drive belt. Of course, newer stationary implements are powered by the PTO, which is fine when you mount or dismount in the middle of the tractor. But on these tractors you mount and dismount off the back and the rotating PTO shaft is definitely something you want to pay attention to. Those spinners people put on steering wheels on these old tractors are dumb. When you operate, make sure your fingers are behind the wheel so you can grab it properly. Another thing, when going in road gear, make sure the brakes are locked together. You could upset if you push only one.
I would think high back seats would help prevent going over the back. The old flat steal seats always bothered me because you could slide around on it if the ground was rough
Awesome safety tip ! My grandpa's brother flip a tractor mowing a steep hill killing him . Did it hundreds of times as well . I hope you have a great evening !
Good tips for newbies and old timers alike. I learned how to drive a tractor with implements on a Farmall H. My grandfathers number one rule was grab the wheel with both hands and hold on, so you don’t roll off the back of the tractor.” “Especially when standing up.” Imagine teaching an eight year old that. “Especially when your standing up.” I stand on my tractors a lot in the field even to this day, but one thing I do; I keep both hands on the wheel and hold on. Man it’s funny how his voice plays over in my head every time just like it was the first time. 😊
I was tasked with mowing down the weeds in the spring calving grounds every September that disturbed soil was rife with tall broadleaf weeds like wild hemp, when mowing you had to stand on platform to see where you were going.
This is a good video, I’ve been fairly badly hurt on old iron, a fairly small tractor, a 2n, I don’t know how it didn’t stall, but as I was getting off I slipped and knocked it into gear and it ran me over from my left ankle, up my leg and then across and off, SET YOUR BRAKES PEOPLE
Good video. You never know who may need a safety reminder. I will tell you to watch the super C they will rear up quicker than the others as they have enough traction and power with the light front end. Nothing wrong with them. My uncle done it with a loaded wagon going up an incline thankfully no one was hurt and it didn't hurt the tractor too much. Good luck at the auction I hope you can get the tractor.
Battery Tenders are the saving grace for batteries on vehicles which aren’t used daily. I have kept one on my Corvette for years. Batteries aren’t cheap tenders pay for themselves.
Been around farm tractors all my childhood and part of my adult life. Going off the back and tipping them over was always on my mind. Luckily my dad never stopped reminding me.
Had a neighbor when I was a kid went backward on a Allis Chalmers WD 45! Pulling to many bottoms front end came up and caught him off guard! Messed him up bad! Folks have been caught in belt pulleys, starting them off the seat forgetting to take em out of gear! Same with hand crank starting ! Had a neighbor turn to tight with a spring tooth drag behind and it climbed up the rear tire and almost got him! Great video! Oh had a neighbor who was standing up on an M with a haybine on cutting hay along a fence row and rear tire went over a stump and tossed him off and into the haybine, killed him deader n hell! His wife found him and came and got dad and I we shut it down and felt helpless as there was nothing we could do!
My dad told me that when his Farmall M was at his uncles farm it rolled over upside down while loading cow manure. He said the reason that happened was because of its nearo front end and the fact the place where the manure came out of the barn was on a hill. The driver was not killed but still scared him. He told me he simply felt the tractor tip, he stood up, stepped onto the tire, walked across the tire and hoped down away from the tractor. You can still see damage on the tractor when it tiped. Not to count the times it tiped while doing field work. When we get the M running again the plan is to take the loader off and put it on a tractor with a wide front end.
I lost a good friend and long time coworker to falling off his tractor while he was chisel plowing. The investigation ended with he likely was standing for better visibility, fell off the back and got caught in the chisel plow. The tractor kept going for about 600feet tumbling and dragging him until the tractor spun out in a wet spot. He did not come home at dark so his Wife called the neighbor, who found the tractor still running, in gear, stuck in the mud.
Could you try plowing with your 400 this year. My dad plows with his 400 and I'm interested to see how yours does. My dad uses a 2 bottom little genius. He has 3 bottoms but they need work first.
The only thing that ticks me off the most. Is when ( not you haven't seen you in a while. ) Is people who stand on the ground and start one of those type of tractors . That is the thing that makes me the maddest. And if you say anything the first thing that comes out of their mouth is I've been running these tractors for 30 odd years. Maybe so but it only takes that one time. A gentleman up home used to do it all the time he was in his early 70s and he made that mistake of starting the tractor one cold morning standing on the ground and didn't realize it was still in gear that was his last time he started that tractor. It only takes once you get your mind on something else and you forget. You going to start the tractor always get on it set in the seat and start the tractor with the foot on the clutch. Safety always first
Great video. We're from the "other" red tractor family, Massey Harris. So exactly that, my grandfather was pulling a chisel plow with his 44 and the seat spring gave out which left him dangling off the back end. The only thing that saved him was his hand on the steering wheel, and he was able to pull himself up enough to push in the clutch. Ever since then he kept a safety chain wrapped around the seat and fabricated up a fail safe mechanism should that happen again. That and similar stories from neighboring farms over the years are why I'm partial to my hand clutch Molines.
never use a pto implement without a overrunning clutch on a tractor without live PTO. never chain a railroad tie on each wheel to get out of a mud hole. keep your brakes in good condition equally adjusted. lock the brakes when in road gear especially if pulling a heavy load in road gear.if you must get off the tractor with the pto running make sure the PTO shields are in place. the tractor has the brakes are set
Great video! You can never be too careful, especially around heavy equipment! Never get in a hurry and try not to get distracted! Another way is backing under low shelters where you might have to ''duck down'' to clear it especially with a ''quick'' clutch! Take care!
A lot more hype than needed. Way more than needed. Grew up on the H and M Farmall back in the 50's when I was not yet a teenager. All my high school friends on the neighboring farms also grew up on them. Not sure where you gained so much fear of them.
At age 10ish, that was a big deal to learn to feather the clutch... hence not the flip off the back you describe. Dad pointed to corn stalks and noted the disk would chop up you the same way. Hang on tight to the steering wheel pretty solid advice!
Rumor has it a few years earlier that clutch was redone with a 5 spring clutch. The 3 spring was harder to rover the skips on a rough ground or heavy pull to start out.
Thats why we tried to keep the clutch a bit on the soft side for some operators here.. Also Hand clutches were noted for running operators over when they would use them for hooking up 1 man style . But if you look at tractors by the mid 1960s the operator stations started to change . and now its full operator sensors now we have to wiggle in the seat once in a while to keep it from shutting down
Most of the farmers I remember who lost their lives back in the 50's and 60 was when the tractor flipped or turned over on creek banks or steep slopes. The tricycle models were the worst on turning over.
Wide front turn over just as easy. If you’re on a bank and she starts to go over, all a wide front does is pivot on the axle. By time it hits the stop it is too late.
My grandfather was nearly killed on a Massey Ferguson 85 gas model tractor that way. Bank sluffed off from undercut erosion, and the rear tire went off the edge and flipped the tractor on him. He leaned up and to his right by the brake pedals with his head and got pinned under it for awhile. I guess the tractor was still running upside down and gasoline was going everywhere. He said he was afraid of it catching on fire more than anything. I guess he eventually got it shut down and was able over time to wriggle around enough to get some rocks out from under his back and create enough space to get out from under it. But not only do you have to worry about being crushed, there is drowning, being burnt, and falling into the brush hog. Pretty dangerous to go along a creek bank like that.
Good video, my big thing is always check for neutral when starting. It's easy to forget if you're in a hurry, but its no good to get run over starting one of these.
Good points, all. But one you didn't mention is the Farmall Cub tractor. It was built with the engine and housing more on one side than the other. As you sit on the seat and look forward to the front end, the works is on one side, as opposed to straight in the center, like all the other models. If you're operating the tractor on a slope, and the engine is on the down side of the slope, the tractor would wind up turned over on its side, crushing the operator beneath the tractor. Why they built the tractor that way, I'll never know, but it was deadly. Then they came out with the Cub Cadet with the engine in the center. I know you must be familiar with those. My dad had a Farmall M and drove it more than the others. He also had a John Deere B, that I cultivated soybeans with when I was a kid. Thanks for your details on these other models. Dad also had a Farmall H.
Many years ago my dad was doing some sort of tillage with his Farmall H. The seat fell off. It was due to an old weld. Thank goodness he did not fall off the tractor.
Front end loader's are very dangerous too. A tractor can be very easily rolled with a load in the bucket and raised up high. Always lower your loaded bucket as low as possible while transporting.
Watched my dad roll over a narrow front WD with a loader. Too heavy a load (1500lb of counter weight on the rear), too high, too much side hill grade. Sheer luck he bailed off the back and didn't get rolled up with it.
Your warning is spot on. We had a 200 my dad bought new in in the fall of 1955 to mount a 1 row corn picker. it was used with front mounted fertilizer listers and there was rust. The tractor stayed with us until my mother sold it in the early 1980's. For some reason we had to remove the seat along in the late 1960's and the 1/2" DOT bolts holding the seat frame to the deck were in bad shape. One was rusted completely off. I would suggest that the bolts be removed periodically to insure they remain secure. Some of the SC and 200 bolts are inside the toolbox, a very corrosive place.
That and rollovers especially with the tricycle front tractors , my dad had the seat break off on a DC Case while pulling a oneway disc plow luckily he had a hold of the steering wheel. I have been driving a M Farmall since I was 13 and use it every year, very touchy clutch , enjoy your videos stay safe.
Great video. It’s always important to keep safety fresh and in mind. Machinery no matter what it is doesn’t care what’s in front, on top, underneath, or around it. Machines don’t have feelings.
My dad thought me that when starting any old tractor while on the ground that you always need to make sure the tractor is in natural because if you don't the tractor could run over you and kill you by its weight.
My dad always told me while working the fields know ur surroundings always look around stay in the seat hands on the wheel and don't be showing off to anybody
My dad's friends father was a under taker and he was called out to collect a body of a guy who died while using a Farmall Cub. The tractor didn't kill him but he just so happend to go while on the tractor. Funny thing is a few yeas later my dad's friends father bought the same exact cub tractor that the guy died on and used it to mow his property where he kept his horses. He passed away, not from using a tractor, but my dad's friend still owns the tractor and still uses it to mow the property.
The most dangerous thing about any PTO powered implement is the PTO shaft. KEEP ALL GUARDS AND SHIELDS IN PLACE. Really wanna be safe. Locate and install fenders on all of the tractors which do no have them. They were available people did the DUMB thing of removing them. We ran Olivers on my dad's farm. ALL came with fenders. My dad ALWAYS kept the fenders in place. Next thing? ALWAYS REMEMBER those older tractors DO NOT HAVE A "NEUTRAL SAFETY" SWITCH in the transmission. They WILL START WHEN IN GEAR !
Definitely a good safety tip I remember another tip you gave a year ago too. Make sure you are on the machine when you start it up to, not standing on the ground. Both great tips to make sure you make it home to your family at night..
You obviously never spent much time on these other than around the yard. Really fall off the back. When these were in use you had many times one hand was on hydraulics and one tripping the rake or doing other chores like operating the loader but I see your impressing the clueless so keep on
Nope. I replaced the seat and sold the tractor. My land is steep and I needed something with a ROPS and seatbelt. I hate seatbelts, but I always wear it bush hogging that steep field. It’s just too dangerous
Always good to refresh your safety video. And good points about keeping two points of contact on the tractor. That was one thing when we learned how to drive the tractor that grandpa taught us. And boy he would get after us even with a stick if he caught us not making two points of contact on the tractor. And especially me as a visually impaired person driving a tractor it was more crucial for me to keep two points of contact. I've seen people go over the back of those tractors. They luckily didn't lose their lives but they could have. I also saw somebody who rested their elbow on the fender and got their arm broken cuz the tractor kicked up a rock.
We had a H Farmall when I was growing up back in the 60s & 70s, I remember riding on the hitch between the tractor and disc while my dad was driving, I loved being in the field with dad. What was we thinking!
I had a pto shaft come apart when brush hogging with my allis wd, scared me half to death, luckily that old tractor had an aftermarket seat and the debris hit the seat and not me.
The one thing that killed or seriously injured people around my area is they start the tractor standing on the ground. They didn't make sure the tractor was out of gear.
I just barely remember the tractor, but my oldest brother was barred from a MINNEAPOLIS Moline U tractor after my dad saw him almost flipping it over backwards on him
Yep that is one reason most new tractors have safety switches on the seats. If you fall off it shuts the tractor down.. Safety switches on the clutch, and PTO. Only time I ever put the charging leads on the terminals is if the battery is off the tractor. Normally just hook it straight to the cables. My charger has a light that comes on to show its connected.
Grandpa went off the back his Oliver 77 and got ran over by his hay rake, broke a rib, poked, bruised, and scratched him. He said the worst part was having to get up and chase down the tractor as it was chugging along driverless.
Yea I'm hooked already bought a cub last year and that was a big mistake now I want more! Can't have enough red!! And yea it scares me to pull off with any pull behind implement. Be safe and I look forward to seeing more of your videos !
The list is long with any old tractor. I learned to drive on a farmall H. Grandpa taught me well. Turn slowly and watch side hills with a narrow front wheel setup. They can tip over faster than Arte Johnson on Laugh In. Never pull from other than the drawbar. A chain or wagon hitched in line with the axle will allow the tractor to wheelie up and over backwards and crush or chop you up. Open pto shafts were common in the 60s. Always disconnect the pto and wait for everything to stop before climbing down. Best to kill the engine. Never push the clutch in when going downhill with a load or wagon. She will run away.
Well, the first thing id have to say about these old beasts, is stop stepping off the back when pto is running, that is 540 rpm, or 9 times a second that pto is turning, if it dont kill ya, your gonna wish to god it did. If pto is running, there is never a reason for you stand between tractor and implement. A huge myth that needs to be cleared up, wide fronts are not more stable, you will still go over just as fast and as easy as a tricycle front end! Most of the time when these go over, its operator error. The tipping point or degrees does not change because of a wide front. The only thing i found for a good use on a wide front, is keeping the light front ends down and plowing. Nothing will freak you out more then the front end coming up and your brush hogging or any pto equipment running behind you. Make sure the seat bolts are secure. Stop standing in front of rear tire when starting, the darn thing has a seat for a reason. Stop making the smallish tractors do what they were never intended for. They didnt have 12,000 pound wagons, buggies or anything large back then, their not meant to move them. I own and play with my super c. I plow, sickle mow, disc, rake and bail hay, grade gravel driveways. It all has to be done safely, unfortunately in some cases, slowly. I have my super c weighted to about 4800 pounds, and thats just for traction. I do not pull fully loaded hay wagons with it as where its at there is some hills, and ya, that itty bitty tractor will not stop a 6,000 pound wagon going downhill. Probably wouldnt even pull it uphill, instead I use my truck or a bigger tractor. Flat fields, you bet ya, im all over the place, not in 4th gear either. Inclines or running parallel on a hillside will get ya. I do normally run my tires on the wider stance if I get the chance. Im not into having this little tractor roll over on top of me. Most accidents can be prevented, just stop day dreaming while operating. Enjoy and have fun with them, and be safe.
Amen sir, I've heard of a couple of guys around here where they were using a loader and moving round bales and one rolled over him crushed his spine. I have heard of guys in the old days driving these tractors standing up, mine has a toolbox seat that raises all the up and past the 90°, i assume that was the function for that
Here in Maine when you go to move a tractor that has sat outside you want to put it in reverse and go backwards a foot or two. If the rear wheels sre frozen to the ground the tractor will flip over if you try to move it forward.
The cover shot says a lot. Making tight turns and tires catch the equipment and drag it up over the tire and on the operator. I have heard of more of those accidents than getting run over. :-(
Don’t Forget the lanyard you can use like they use on power sports and JetSki‘s that can shut off your machine if you were to fall immediately case for some reason you break your three points of contact for some unknown reason do you have another safety net and others I would suggest I think it’s a good idea is to add the ropes to protect you from overturning but you could also have some extra protection if you were to lose your balance and fall you have something to grab
Before tractors, there were horses and mules used for farming. Have you ever been kicked by a mule or horse. The farm implements that were drawn by teams of animals were either stood on with no seat or like on a rake there was a small seat to sit on. No safety belt at all. Stagecoaches, buckboards and wagons had little wooden seats too. My how we have progressed.
Grandpa would never let us ride if he was working in the field. The other way people get hurt was the implement would catch in the ground and the tractor would pop a wheelie. The result was still falling off the back.
My wifes grandfather was killed on a old kubota tractor back in 08'. it was a small 25hp or so model I dont recall exactly what it was. Small light weight tractors are so easy to turn over because they are so light!! He was running a 5ft rotary cutter (which was too heavy in my opinion) it kept the steering so light you didnt have much control without using the steering brakes. around a small lake when he hit a small wash out ditch and rolled it over into the lake. It was so devastating to the whole family, He was such a great fella, Lots of good memories, we miss him and still talk about him.
Farmall seat spring break? Id seen it happen, luckly had a good grip on steering wheel. was a bored out M with a mounted double bar 9' IH balance head Rowse sickle mower. had bore out H with a shopbuilt Double 7 IH sickle mower we used for prairie hay, 460 gas on a 38' dump rake, 2ea reversed Farmall C's as hay bunchers (sweeps)
I love my battery tender. I could use 2 or 3 more like you. I move it around about once a week - to the boat battery, then the H battery, then the lawn tractor battery... I've heard Harbor Freight has a low cost knockoff version of it.
Good point about going over the back. Over the years I've heard of more guys losing their life from flipping the narrow front end tractors than anything. Had a local guy several years ago put a big round bale on the front and one on the back of a trike front farmall. Flipped it into the ditch. He was lucky and didn't get injured
Good advice for sure. I had a classmate in the 50s fall of and get run over by a disc, he was really messed up but lived. Blades in trail, but still. Speaking of dumb I came off the drawbar of an H while a 13 yr old. Trying to balance w a .22 rifle in each hand. Road gear as we turned at the country store, hit a bump on fresh gravel a did a face plant! Ugh. Could be what’s wrong with me now???
@@FarmallFanatic My cousin was driving and we were returning from Grandpa’s fish ponds. Taking care of the turtle problem. Actually was barely hurt, luckily I guess. My cousin made a ton of money 40 or so years later selling turtles to the country of China! Me, not so much! Army did right by me, but only comfortable. Buying a IH 244 in a day or two. Garden tractor for my small acres.
I bought a H years ago the story was the next to last owner fell off into his pull type bush hog. dont know if true but always had a creepy factor to the tractor. lol
The original owner of my M was killed when he was making a left hand turn on the highway and a car t-boned him. It does kinda give you a creepy feeling.
@@aidanschmidt607 I don't really know. I didn't find out about it until a few months after I bought it. I looked it all of the casting dates, and the left axle was replaced at some point. And the front gas tank support was also replaced. The left wheel does have a wobble to it when you go down the road. I imagine the tractor was rolled because I think the sheet metal was replaced to.
Our neighbor owned an M with a loader. The M had a narrow front and he was carrying the big stones off the field to a stone fence. There was a little dead furrow and when he tried to go thru it, the stones in the loader shifted to one side causing the tractor to tip over. Luckily the operator jumped off the tractor on the opposite side. That’s why we would never own a tractor with a narrow front end, especially with a loader.
Just be safe using the older tractors without safety equipment; I know that it would change the looks & value to put a R.OP. of some kind on these old tractors, but I lost a good friend years ago,when he was trying to pull a tree stump out with an older tractor with out a R.O.P safety device & you know what happened when the tree stump didn't move & he put the tractor in lower gear & popped the clutch!
My memories of "most dangerous" was exactly what you say. The time after lunch was the worst - 1:00 to 3:00 in the hot sun after lunch, rocking back and forth in a large field.......almost falling asleep and falling off. Of course no seat belt back in the 60's and 70's.
Had an old fellow in my area, he didn't have an IH but had a big old David Brown tractor. He fell off the tractor TWICE, and ran over himself with the implements. Once with the bush hog (running), and once with the disc (harrow). By the Grace of God, the blades on the bush hog were dull (extremely), so it only beat him up on his legs. And though the disc didn't cut him up like you would have thought, ironically, the disc did do worse damage than the bush hog. He was in the hospital a couple of days on that one. The real miraculous part of both of these incidents, beyond the fact that both times the tractor ran over him first followed by implements that you do not want to see the underside of when they are working. This man was in his Eighties (80's) both times and lived several years after the second time, showing no ill effects. He shuffled when he walked beforehand and he shuffled when he walked after. Needless to say, there are some things in life you don't want to experience and there are things in life that you don't want to witness and this guy did both with himself.
The biggest issue is not not hocking to the draw bar. The draw bar fastens to the Centre of the tractor and pulls down If you hock above the axil the tractor will flip backwards
My Uncle held a Safety meeting the first time I drove the " M." He Said " Be Careful and Hold on." That was the extent of my safety training. Oh and Don't reach through the steering wheel to work the throttle Best Wishes From Montana! M.H.
On your 400 with the battery box under the seat..... We know a guy who left the front ,two bolts out of the box lid,(or left them loose?) When he got up in the seat and took off,the box lid hinged backwards throwing him off onto concrete. He got a severe head injury that took a lot of medical attention and several months to recover from. Gotta pay attention to what you are doing at all times !!!!!
I have a Farmall C with the hand crank on the front , I make sure and double-check that I'm in neutral before I start it or otherwise I could get run over, I can remember my father talking about a man pulling a set of harrows , he turned to sharp and the back tire pulled the harrows right over top of him
Had a neighbor man bush hogging with a 1206 hit a hole and the seat broke off and went off the back. Bad day. Word of advise. Check any seat on a open station tractor. The only thing between life and death
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Mounting a tractor with a winter cover, usually only option was to mount operators platform from rear.
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My little Allis doesn’t have these issues
My co-worker wiht his hobby farm was mowing on the side of a hill and the tractor rolled and he ended up losing part of his heel in the mower blades.
We had primarily Farmalls on our dairy farm in the 1960s and 1970s. Dad always told us to keep our tractor speed down, watch side hills, and pay attention. Raking hay with a tricycle type H was fun, but you better always hold on as running your front wheels into a groundhog hole can really upset the Apple cart, as they say. Also, we always had wheel fenders on all our tractors for added protection from falling into or
Should always have fenders
Another bad habit is standing in front of the rear wheel on the ground and starting it. I’ve done it myself. But I know there’s been guys killed or busted up carelessly forgetting to take them out of gear and running over themselves when it starts.
I don't like to do it even if I'm positive that it is out of gear because maybe it's stuck in gear I'm not taking any chances
I always remember my dad rattling the gearshift before starting it especially from the belt drive.
1486 had set for a month pressure plate had stuck to disc pushed clutch in hot the start button it took off can't be careful enough
I'm guilty of not climbing up on to start them... Its a Bad Habit....
grew up on narrow fronts and Farmall never thought of falling off the back of the seat
Good advice in terms of keeping hands on the steering wheel. Another thing that one had to be cautious about was the PTO behind the rear axle. Wearing loose clothing close to that shaft while stepping up from the draw bar can be disastrous in terms of the PTO rotating the shaft on a brush-hog, hay rake or hay bailer. When using a brush-hog on some cotton stalks one day with a Super "C" I stirred up from the ground a swarm of wasp bees attacking me. I jumped off the tractor and ran away from it. Since it was only in first gear and the deep farrows the tractor just keep going straight shredding stalks in low gear. Fifty yards down the way I ran up behind it and jumped up back into the seat from the draw bar. Stayed clear of the area where the bees were. A teenage kid with no fear, must of had a guardian many times driving those red machines on the farm. Wish I still had that "Super "C".
Hi just found your channel. Drove all these tractors growing up. A neighbors son was dragged off a tractor like this by a tree limb while running a bushog . Really drove home to me how careful you have to be.These old tractors are heavy low geared machines that got the job done. Great channel!
Appreciate it 🙏
Yep, you've gotta be on the toes when operating those antique tractors. I started out with a Farmall H & stepped up to a Farmall M. Both had narrow front ends on them & I always paid attention to what I was doing. Thanks for sharing. Take care.
Thanks for watching Ron
You could break your thumbs on the stearing wheels and starter cranks.
Kickback would break your bones, especially stearing wheels with stearing knobs attached.
Pto driven equipment.
Tractor mounted corn pickers, claimed many fingers, also bearing failures and fires caused by mechanical failures.
Pto hay bailers, sickle mowers, hsmmer mills, silage choppers, even manure spreaders.
Had one kid in highschool have a Pto shaft come loose during operation and strike him on head, another guy electrocuted when he folded a disc for transport and contacted a hightension line.
One woman in township was killed by a broken winch cable as backlash whipped back while winching a haystack on a underslung haywagon.
Long haired wife had her scalp ripped off her skull by a pto grinder mixer.
One farmer in vounty to east killed after being ingested in a pto powered feedwagon, then you had belt driven buzz saws
My ol super m I used to have was a narrow front with a westen dorf front end loader on it. Worked great for pushing snow, but super sketchy when that bucket was full and above the front wheels
My grandfather got the first two Farmall tractors with pneumatic tires. that were delivered to Nampa Idaho. and one of them he had fabricated a front end bucket loader onto it. and one day when he was crank starting the tractor the bucket fell on him and broke his back. he recuperated and survived from it, and lived to be 89 years old. it just goes to show how tough some of those old guys could be. because most people don't survive a broken back.
safety was less a concern back in those days.
Great points and recommendations and will add that you always need to be ready when pulling in low gears and the implement gets hung up on a stump or rock and will not move; the tractor wheels will not stop and the front end comes up off the ground and the whole tractor will flip backwards pinning the operator between the implement on the bottom and tractor on top. You always need to keep your foot close to the clutch peddle and ready to depress it in a split second or you could be dead. A lot of guys are dead trying to pull stumps with rolling the tractor upside down when pulling the stump; that will not give and/or move. Being the major reason for ROPS on open station tractors; which then lead to cab tractors.
Absolutely
@@FarmallFanatic I was taught these tractor roll overs were the inspiration to the invention of the 3 point hitch. It's the centre bar that prevents roll overs when hooked to an implement. A 3 pt addition isn't just more versatile, it's safer too :)
Love your program sir.when i saw your collection brought me back to 1969..my grandpa used always take me out in the fields with him.i loved sitting so high in the air with the smell of gods earth.thankyou for the memories. God bless
Great advice. I learned since a little boy to hang on tight. But if you're aware of the danger, you respect it and have no problem. When these tractors were built, it was back in the day when people were expected to use their head. And if you did, you were safe. Leaving a tractor in gear when you shut them off definitely poses a danger, as well as live PTOs creeping. Also when these tractors were built, when they were used as stationary power units, they typically used a drive belt. Of course, newer stationary implements are powered by the PTO, which is fine when you mount or dismount in the middle of the tractor. But on these tractors you mount and dismount off the back and the rotating PTO shaft is definitely something you want to pay attention to. Those spinners people put on steering wheels on these old tractors are dumb. When you operate, make sure your fingers are behind the wheel so you can grab it properly. Another thing, when going in road gear, make sure the brakes are locked together. You could upset if you push only one.
I would think high back seats would help prevent going over the back. The old flat steal seats always bothered me because you could slide around on it if the ground was rough
Gotta stay gripping the wheel
If the seat mounting bracket breaks, you’re screwed.
Great vid- always good to talk about safety once and awhile- weve lost a couple around here starting them in gear in front of the tires
Awesome safety tip ! My grandpa's brother flip a tractor mowing a steep hill killing him . Did it hundreds of times as well . I hope you have a great evening !
Good tips for newbies and old timers alike. I learned how to drive a tractor with implements on a Farmall H. My grandfathers number one rule was grab the wheel with both hands and hold on, so you don’t roll off the back of the tractor.” “Especially when standing up.” Imagine teaching an eight year old that. “Especially when your standing up.” I stand on my tractors a lot in the field even to this day, but one thing I do; I keep both hands on the wheel and hold on. Man it’s funny how his voice plays over in my head every time just like it was the first time. 😊
I was tasked with mowing down the weeds in the spring calving grounds every September that disturbed soil was rife with tall broadleaf weeds like wild hemp, when mowing you had to stand on platform to see where you were going.
This is a good video, I’ve been fairly badly hurt on old iron, a fairly small tractor, a 2n, I don’t know how it didn’t stall, but as I was getting off I slipped and knocked it into gear and it ran me over from my left ankle, up my leg and then across and off, SET YOUR BRAKES PEOPLE
Wow 😳
Good video. You never know who may need a safety reminder. I will tell you to watch the super C they will rear up quicker than the others as they have enough traction and power with the light front end. Nothing wrong with them. My uncle done it with a loaded wagon going up an incline thankfully no one was hurt and it didn't hurt the tractor too much. Good luck at the auction I hope you can get the tractor.
I don't think this one I'm going to bid on
Battery Tenders are the saving grace for batteries on vehicles which aren’t used daily. I have kept one on my Corvette for years. Batteries aren’t cheap tenders pay for themselves.
They sure do
Been around farm tractors all my childhood and part of my adult life. Going off the back and tipping them over was always on my mind. Luckily my dad never stopped reminding me.
Had a neighbor when I was a kid went backward on a Allis Chalmers WD 45! Pulling to many bottoms front end came up and caught him off guard! Messed him up bad! Folks have been caught in belt pulleys, starting them off the seat forgetting to take em out of gear! Same with hand crank starting ! Had a neighbor turn to tight with a spring tooth drag behind and it climbed up the rear tire and almost got him! Great video! Oh had a neighbor who was standing up on an M with a haybine on cutting hay along a fence row and rear tire went over a stump and tossed him off and into the haybine, killed him deader n hell! His wife found him and came and got dad and I we shut it down and felt helpless as there was nothing we could do!
There's no way to get that scene out of your head
@@FarmallFanatic I think about every time I see a tractor
Never a bad time to be reminded about safety. Hopefully we’ll all be out turning some dirt soon!
I'm hoping a couple of weeks
@@FarmallFanatic do you have gravel ground?? My clay stays wet for a long time.
My dad told me that when his Farmall M was at his uncles farm it rolled over upside down while loading cow manure. He said the reason that happened was because of its nearo front end and the fact the place where the manure came out of the barn was on a hill. The driver was not killed but still scared him. He told me he simply felt the tractor tip, he stood up, stepped onto the tire, walked across the tire and hoped down away from the tractor. You can still see damage on the tractor when it tiped. Not to count the times it tiped while doing field work. When we get the M running again the plan is to take the loader off and put it on a tractor with a wide front end.
That's a good idea
You can get wide front ends for them. Those narrow fronts were designed for working row crops on flat ground.
Yeah, the whole idea of having a loader on a trike just sounds like playing Russian Roulette with 5 in the cylinder and one empty slot.
A wide front end really doesn't have that much stabilizing effect, if you study the physics of it. But it is a perception that exists.
I lost a good friend and long time coworker to falling off his tractor while he was chisel plowing. The investigation ended with he likely was standing for better visibility, fell off the back and got caught in the chisel plow. The tractor kept going for about 600feet tumbling and dragging him until the tractor spun out in a wet spot. He did not come home at dark so his Wife called the neighbor, who found the tractor still running, in gear, stuck in the mud.
What a horrible scene that would have been
I only stand on my john deere's and only in 1st gear. Airways keep my hand on the clutch
Could you try plowing with your 400 this year. My dad plows with his 400 and I'm interested to see how yours does. My dad uses a 2 bottom little genius. He has 3 bottoms but they need work first.
The only thing that ticks me off the most. Is when ( not you haven't seen you in a while. ) Is people who stand on the ground and start one of those type of tractors . That is the thing that makes me the maddest. And if you say anything the first thing that comes out of their mouth is I've been running these tractors for 30 odd years. Maybe so but it only takes that one time. A gentleman up home used to do it all the time he was in his early 70s and he made that mistake of starting the tractor one cold morning standing on the ground and didn't realize it was still in gear that was his last time he started that tractor. It only takes once you get your mind on something else and you forget. You going to start the tractor always get on it set in the seat and start the tractor with the foot on the clutch. Safety always first
I cringe seeing it
Great video. We're from the "other" red tractor family, Massey Harris. So exactly that, my grandfather was pulling a chisel plow with his 44 and the seat spring gave out which left him dangling off the back end. The only thing that saved him was his hand on the steering wheel, and he was able to pull himself up enough to push in the clutch. Ever since then he kept a safety chain wrapped around the seat and fabricated up a fail safe mechanism should that happen again. That and similar stories from neighboring farms over the years are why I'm partial to my hand clutch Molines.
never use a pto implement without a overrunning clutch on a tractor without live PTO. never chain a railroad tie on each wheel to get out of a mud hole. keep your brakes in good condition equally adjusted. lock the brakes when in road gear especially if pulling a heavy load in road gear.if you must get off the tractor with the pto running make sure the PTO shields are in place. the tractor has the brakes are set
Great advice
Watch the movie called "The Man in the moon" guys gets killed when the disc runs him over. Falls off of one of these tractors.
Great video! You can never be too careful, especially around heavy equipment! Never get in a hurry and try not to get distracted! Another way is backing under low shelters where you might have to ''duck down'' to clear it especially with a ''quick'' clutch! Take care!
A lot more hype than needed. Way more than needed. Grew up on the H and M Farmall back in the 50's when I was not yet a teenager. All my high school friends on the neighboring farms also grew up on them. Not sure where you gained so much fear of them.
Not sure why you call respect fear
Off topic but I was wondering the size of your carport canopy for your tractor? Thanks.
20x30x8
At age 10ish, that was a big deal to learn to feather the clutch... hence not the flip off the back you describe. Dad pointed to corn stalks and noted the disk would chop up you the same way. Hang on tight to the steering wheel pretty solid advice!
Heard a story of a guy that went overboard brush hogging 😳
Rumor has it a few years earlier that clutch was redone with a 5 spring clutch. The 3 spring was harder to rover the skips on a rough ground or heavy pull to start out.
Thats why we tried to keep the clutch a bit on the soft side for some operators here.. Also Hand clutches were noted for running operators over when they would use them for hooking up 1 man style . But if you look at tractors by the mid 1960s the operator stations started to change . and now its full operator sensors now we have to wiggle in the seat once in a while to keep it from shutting down
Yea they are off the chart safe now
Most of the farmers I remember who lost their lives back in the 50's and 60 was when the tractor flipped or turned over on creek banks or steep slopes. The tricycle models were the worst on turning over.
Wide front turn over just as easy. If you’re on a bank and she starts to go over, all a wide front does is pivot on the axle. By time it hits the stop it is too late.
My grandfather was nearly killed on a Massey Ferguson 85 gas model tractor that way. Bank sluffed off from undercut erosion, and the rear tire went off the edge and flipped the tractor on him. He leaned up and to his right by the brake pedals with his head and got pinned under it for awhile. I guess the tractor was still running upside down and gasoline was going everywhere. He said he was afraid of it catching on fire more than anything. I guess he eventually got it shut down and was able over time to wriggle around enough to get some rocks out from under his back and create enough space to get out from under it. But not only do you have to worry about being crushed, there is drowning, being burnt, and falling into the brush hog. Pretty dangerous to go along a creek bank like that.
Just got a 300 utility with a Blackwelder heavy lift. Will make a seat back tho. Thanks for the tips.
Right on
Good video, my big thing is always check for neutral when starting. It's easy to forget if you're in a hurry, but its no good to get run over starting one of these.
Absolutely
Good points, all. But one you didn't mention is the Farmall Cub tractor. It was built with the engine and housing more on one side than the other. As you sit on the seat and look forward to the front end, the works is on one side, as opposed to straight in the center, like all the other models. If you're operating the tractor on a slope, and the engine is on the down side of the slope, the tractor would wind up turned over on its side, crushing the operator beneath the tractor. Why they built the tractor that way, I'll never know, but it was deadly. Then they came out with the Cub Cadet with the engine in the center. I know you must be familiar with those. My dad had a Farmall M and drove it more than the others. He also had a John Deere B, that I cultivated soybeans with when I was a kid. Thanks for your details on these other models. Dad also had a Farmall H.
They built that for cultivators...called cultivision
Cultivision. Easier to see the rows of crops while cultivating.
Nice timely reminder with spring approaching an tractor fever gonna hit 💪💥
That's a good video. The PTO has always worried me and also starting a tractor from the ground.
I saw a guy get scalped by a pto
Many years ago my dad was doing some sort of tillage with his Farmall H. The seat fell off. It was due to an old weld. Thank goodness he did not fall off the tractor.
Hanging on to the steering wheel is critical
Front end loader's are very dangerous too. A tractor can be very easily rolled with a load in the bucket and raised up high. Always lower your loaded bucket as low as possible while transporting.
Absolutely
Watched my dad roll over a narrow front WD with a loader. Too heavy a load (1500lb of counter weight on the rear), too high, too much side hill grade. Sheer luck he bailed off the back and didn't get rolled up with it.
Your warning is spot on. We had a 200 my dad bought new in in the fall of 1955 to mount a 1 row corn picker. it was used with front mounted fertilizer listers and there was rust. The tractor stayed with us until my mother sold it in the early 1980's. For some reason we had to remove the seat along in the late 1960's and the 1/2" DOT bolts holding the seat frame to the deck were in bad shape. One was rusted completely off. I would suggest that the bolts be removed periodically to insure they remain secure. Some of the SC and 200 bolts are inside the toolbox, a very corrosive place.
Definitely
That and rollovers especially with the tricycle front tractors , my dad had the seat break off on a DC Case while pulling a oneway disc plow luckily he had a hold of the steering wheel. I have been driving a M Farmall since I was 13 and use it every year, very touchy clutch , enjoy your videos stay safe.
Great video. It’s always important to keep safety fresh and in mind. Machinery no matter what it is doesn’t care what’s in front, on top, underneath, or around it. Machines don’t have feelings.
Nope nor do they discriminate
Drove W9 series growing up and you are correct butt in the seat always one hand on the wheel.
My dad thought me that when starting any old tractor while on the ground that you always need to make sure the tractor is in natural because if you don't the tractor could run over you and kill you by its weight.
Well you never stand in front of it when starting it even if you're positive that it's a neutral because it may not be
My dad always told me while working the fields know ur surroundings always look around stay in the seat hands on the wheel and don't be showing off to anybody
My dad's friends father was a under taker and he was called out to collect a body of a guy who died while using a Farmall Cub. The tractor didn't kill him but he just so happend to go while on the tractor. Funny thing is a few yeas later my dad's friends father bought the same exact cub tractor that the guy died on and used it to mow his property where he kept his horses. He passed away, not from using a tractor, but my dad's friend still owns the tractor and still uses it to mow the property.
That tractor has some serious history
The most dangerous thing about any PTO powered implement is the PTO shaft. KEEP ALL GUARDS AND SHIELDS IN PLACE.
Really wanna be safe. Locate and install fenders on all of the tractors which do no have them. They were available people did the DUMB thing of removing them. We ran Olivers on my dad's farm. ALL came with fenders. My dad ALWAYS kept the fenders in place.
Next thing? ALWAYS REMEMBER those older tractors DO NOT HAVE A "NEUTRAL SAFETY" SWITCH in the transmission. They WILL START WHEN IN GEAR !
Definitely a good safety tip I remember another tip you gave a year ago too. Make sure you are on the machine when you start it up to, not standing on the ground. Both great tips to make sure you make it home to your family at night..
No doubt.. I've known a few that didn't make it home
This shows your intelligence
Have you ever seen anyone crank a tractor from the seat
You obviously never spent much time on these other than around the yard. Really fall off the back. When these were in use you had many times one hand was on hydraulics and one tripping the rake or doing other chores like operating the loader but I see your impressing the clueless so keep on
@@genelund1705 I'm more of a talk in person kinda guy
@@genelund1705 you had a smart comment a couple videos ago...anytime you wanna work things out, let me know
My Kubota was an early 1980s. Seat fell off while I was bush hogging. Lucky I was holding the steering wheel with both hands.
Not good
Nope. I replaced the seat and sold the tractor. My land is steep and I needed something with a ROPS and seatbelt. I hate seatbelts, but I always wear it bush hogging that steep field. It’s just too dangerous
Great advice! If someone was inventive, could they install a safety tether like on a boat or jet ski, if tether gets pulled it shuts the power off...
Definitely
Always good to refresh your safety video. And good points about keeping two points of contact on the tractor. That was one thing when we learned how to drive the tractor that grandpa taught us. And boy he would get after us even with a stick if he caught us not making two points of contact on the tractor. And especially me as a visually impaired person driving a tractor it was more crucial for me to keep two points of contact. I've seen people go over the back of those tractors. They luckily didn't lose their lives but they could have. I also saw somebody who rested their elbow on the fender and got their arm broken cuz the tractor kicked up a rock.
Geesh
We had a H Farmall when I was growing up back in the 60s & 70s, I remember riding on the hitch between the tractor and disc while my dad was driving, I loved being in the field with dad. What was we thinking!
We didn't do safe stuff back then
Do you need a set of fast hitch 2 bottom plows with spring trip
Where are you located
I've got a 1951 IH Farmall Super A. Is there a preferred brand/color shade of restoration paint?
I go 2150 and nobody has ever complained
Yr so right thank yu for the safety tips.💪💗
Standing on the wrong side of crank starting. Jumping off n catching your foot in the shifter behind you causing to jump in gear.
I had a pto shaft come apart when brush hogging with my allis wd, scared me half to death, luckily that old tractor had an aftermarket seat and the debris hit the seat and not me.
Sometimes, you get lucky
Yup know a guy in my parents home town who flipped off one and lost his arm in a hay bailer. Task around the farm can be dangerous.
No question
Trying to start them from the ground, having a loader on a narrow front tippen over
I see loaders on narrow fronts and just squirm
Thanks..... 89 in Phoenix today.... BOOM....!!!!
Find BRIM out there ahahahahahahaha
The one thing that killed or seriously injured people around my area is they start the tractor standing on the ground. They didn't make sure the tractor was out of gear.
Most definitely I have heard of that around here most of the guys lived but they were really messed up
I just barely remember the tractor, but my oldest brother was barred from a MINNEAPOLIS Moline U tractor after my dad saw him almost flipping it over backwards on him
Yeah I would have too
Does your 756 have the coil spring on the manifold ? My 606 the manifold spring is missing. Stiner has em for 30 bucks, how important is that spring.
Mine does have it it's for cold temperatures... International felt the need to put it on there... I don't think it's a show stopper
Yep that is one reason most new tractors have safety switches on the seats. If you fall off it shuts the tractor down.. Safety switches on the clutch, and PTO. Only time I ever put the charging leads on the terminals is if the battery is off the tractor. Normally just hook it straight to the cables. My charger has a light that comes on to show its connected.
This one here is just red when charging and green when charged
Grandpa went off the back his Oliver 77 and got ran over by his hay rake, broke a rib, poked, bruised, and scratched him. He said the worst part was having to get up and chase down the tractor as it was chugging along driverless.
That's a tough old bird right there
@@FarmallFanatic Found his hat the next day rolled nicely into the windrow.
Yes i grewup pulling hay wagons with a small farmall tractor. It was to small for the job but its what. We had. Going up hills was always sketchy
Yeah it will make you sweat
Yea I'm hooked already bought a cub last year and that was a big mistake now I want more! Can't have enough red!! And yea it scares me to pull off with any pull behind implement. Be safe and I look forward to seeing more of your videos !
Red Power
@@FarmallFanatic gotta love Red!!
I have fenders on my M and the H, when you turn to look behind you it gives something to hold on to ! One hand on the wheel and one on the fender
Really should have fenders
Bore and raised on a farmall 140! Love them.
Me too 👍
The list is long with any old tractor. I learned to drive on a farmall H. Grandpa taught me well. Turn slowly and watch side hills with a narrow front wheel setup. They can tip over faster than Arte Johnson on Laugh In. Never pull from other than the drawbar. A chain or wagon hitched in line with the axle will allow the tractor to wheelie up and over backwards and crush or chop you up. Open pto shafts were common in the 60s. Always disconnect the pto and wait for everything to stop before climbing down. Best to kill the engine. Never push the clutch in when going downhill with a load or wagon. She will run away.
All good points
Well, the first thing id have to say about these old beasts, is stop stepping off the back when pto is running, that is 540 rpm, or 9 times a second that pto is turning, if it dont kill ya, your gonna wish to god it did. If pto is running, there is never a reason for you stand between tractor and implement. A huge myth that needs to be cleared up, wide fronts are not more stable, you will still go over just as fast and as easy as a tricycle front end! Most of the time when these go over, its operator error. The tipping point or degrees does not change because of a wide front. The only thing i found for a good use on a wide front, is keeping the light front ends down and plowing. Nothing will freak you out more then the front end coming up and your brush hogging or any pto equipment running behind you. Make sure the seat bolts are secure. Stop standing in front of rear tire when starting, the darn thing has a seat for a reason. Stop making the smallish tractors do what they were never intended for. They didnt have 12,000 pound wagons, buggies or anything large back then, their not meant to move them. I own and play with my super c. I plow, sickle mow, disc, rake and bail hay, grade gravel driveways. It all has to be done safely, unfortunately in some cases, slowly. I have my super c weighted to about 4800 pounds, and thats just for traction. I do not pull fully loaded hay wagons with it as where its at there is some hills, and ya, that itty bitty tractor will not stop a 6,000 pound wagon going downhill. Probably wouldnt even pull it uphill, instead I use my truck or a bigger tractor. Flat fields, you bet ya, im all over the place, not in 4th gear either. Inclines or running parallel on a hillside will get ya. I do normally run my tires on the wider stance if I get the chance. Im not into having this little tractor roll over on top of me. Most accidents can be prevented, just stop day dreaming while operating. Enjoy and have fun with them, and be safe.
So true
Amen sir, I've heard of a couple of guys around here where they were using a loader and moving round bales and one rolled over him crushed his spine. I have heard of guys in the old days driving these tractors standing up, mine has a toolbox seat that raises all the up and past the 90°, i assume that was the function for that
You can stand with two hand on the wheel, but I don't
Here in Maine when you go to move a tractor that has sat outside you want to put it in reverse and go backwards a foot or two. If the rear wheels sre frozen to the ground the tractor will flip over if you try to move it forward.
Good point
The cover shot says a lot. Making tight turns and tires catch the equipment and drag it up over the tire and on the operator. I have heard of more of those accidents than getting run over. :-(
Yep
Hello thats one thing that I know about John Deere, has allways been consistent and drive the same. I didnt know about farmall Lol have a good day.
Don’t Forget the lanyard you can use like they use on power sports and JetSki‘s that can shut off your machine if you were to fall immediately case for some reason you break your three points of contact for some unknown reason do you have another safety net and others I would suggest I think it’s a good idea is to add the ropes to protect you from overturning but you could also have some extra protection if you were to lose your balance and fall you have something to grab
True
Before tractors, there were horses and mules used for farming. Have you ever been kicked by a mule or horse. The farm implements that were drawn by teams of animals were either stood on with no seat or like on a rake there was a small seat to sit on. No safety belt at all. Stagecoaches, buckboards and wagons had little wooden seats too. My how we have progressed.
And then some
I lost a uncle he was on a 1256 International pulling a stuck tractor hooked his chain too high and flipped it over backwards ..
That's surprising...wow
Grandpa would never let us ride if he was working in the field. The other way people get hurt was the implement would catch in the ground and the tractor would pop a wheelie. The result was still falling off the back.
Yea no thanks
I think the most dangerous act is starting the engine while standing on the ground in front of a rear wheel.
I've heard of guys surviving that
My wifes grandfather was killed on a old kubota tractor back in 08'. it was a small 25hp or so model I dont recall exactly what it was. Small light weight tractors are so easy to turn over because they are so light!! He was running a 5ft rotary cutter (which was too heavy in my opinion) it kept the steering so light you didnt have much control without using the steering brakes. around a small lake when he hit a small wash out ditch and rolled it over into the lake. It was so devastating to the whole family, He was such a great fella, Lots of good memories, we miss him and still talk about him.
Farmall seat spring break?
Id seen it happen, luckly had a good grip on steering wheel.
was a bored out M with a mounted double bar 9' IH balance head Rowse sickle mower.
had bore out H with a shopbuilt Double 7 IH sickle mower we used for prairie hay, 460 gas on a 38' dump rake, 2ea reversed Farmall C's as hay bunchers (sweeps)
Yeah that's not good
I love my battery tender. I could use 2 or 3 more like you. I move it around about once a week - to the boat battery, then the H battery, then the lawn tractor battery... I've heard Harbor Freight has a low cost knockoff version of it.
I'm going to move mine over to the 400
Good point about going over the back. Over the years I've heard of more guys losing their life from flipping the narrow front end tractors than anything. Had a local guy several years ago put a big round bale on the front and one on the back of a trike front farmall. Flipped it into the ditch. He was lucky and didn't get injured
People get comfortable
Good advice for sure. I had a classmate in the 50s fall of and get run over by a disc, he was really messed up but lived. Blades in trail, but still. Speaking of dumb I came off the drawbar of an H while a 13 yr old. Trying to balance w a .22 rifle in each hand. Road gear as we turned at the country store, hit a bump on fresh gravel a did a face plant! Ugh. Could be what’s wrong with me now???
That does not sound fun lol
@@FarmallFanatic My cousin was driving and we were returning from Grandpa’s fish ponds. Taking care of the turtle problem. Actually was barely hurt, luckily I guess. My cousin made a ton of money 40 or so years later selling turtles to the country of China! Me, not so much! Army did right by me, but only comfortable. Buying a IH 244 in a day or two. Garden tractor for my small acres.
I bought a H years ago the story was the next to last owner fell off into his pull type bush hog. dont know if true but always had a creepy factor to the tractor. lol
Geesh 😳
The original owner of my M was killed when he was making a left hand turn on the highway and a car t-boned him. It does kinda give you a creepy feeling.
@@hturbo1007 How bad was the M damaged?
@@aidanschmidt607 I don't really know. I didn't find out about it until a few months after I bought it. I looked it all of the casting dates, and the left axle was replaced at some point. And the front gas tank support was also replaced. The left wheel does have a wobble to it when you go down the road. I imagine the tractor was rolled because I think the sheet metal was replaced to.
Our neighbor owned an M with a loader. The M had a narrow front and he was carrying the big stones off the field to a stone fence. There was a little dead furrow and when he tried to go thru it, the stones in the loader shifted to one side causing the tractor to tip over. Luckily the operator jumped off the tractor on the opposite side. That’s why we would never own a tractor with a narrow front end, especially with a loader.
Always hitch to the draw bar or the front so it does not flip
Great video I love it and the old tractors. more people are losing their lives today than ever before, but tractors are the least of their worries
Just be safe using the older tractors without safety equipment; I know that it would change the looks & value to put a R.OP. of some kind on these old tractors, but I lost a good friend years ago,when he was trying to pull a tree stump out with an older tractor with out a R.O.P safety device & you know what happened when the tree stump didn't move & he put the tractor in lower gear & popped the clutch!
My memories of "most dangerous" was exactly what you say. The time after lunch was the worst - 1:00 to 3:00 in the hot sun after lunch, rocking back and forth in a large field.......almost falling asleep and falling off. Of course no seat belt back in the 60's and 70's.
Wow 😳
I've seen more injuries from stepping off the back of these tractors with PTO running. The 2 MH's we owned had a front step.
Good info! It's easy to get too relaxed on these old tractors....
Had an old fellow in my area, he didn't have an IH but had a big old David Brown tractor. He fell off the tractor TWICE, and ran over himself with the implements. Once with the bush hog (running), and once with the disc (harrow).
By the Grace of God, the blades on the bush hog were dull (extremely), so it only beat him up on his legs. And though the disc didn't cut him up like you would have thought, ironically, the disc did do worse damage than the bush hog. He was in the hospital a couple of days on that one. The real miraculous part of both of these incidents, beyond the fact that both times the tractor ran over him first followed by implements that you do not want to see the underside of when they are working. This man was in his Eighties (80's) both times and lived several years after the second time, showing no ill effects. He shuffled when he walked beforehand and he shuffled when he walked after.
Needless to say, there are some things in life you don't want to experience and there are things in life that you don't want to witness and this guy did both with himself.
Shocking
The biggest issue is not not hocking to the draw bar. The draw bar fastens to the Centre of the tractor and pulls down
If you hock above the axil the tractor will flip backwards
Absolutely
My Uncle held a Safety meeting the first time I drove the " M." He Said " Be Careful and Hold on." That was the extent of my safety training.
Oh and Don't reach through the steering wheel to work the throttle
Best Wishes From Montana! M.H.
Hold on is definitely some good advice
On your 400 with the battery box under the seat..... We know a guy who left the front ,two bolts out of the box lid,(or left them loose?) When he got up in the seat and took off,the box lid hinged backwards throwing him off onto concrete. He got a severe head injury that took a lot of medical attention and several months to recover from. Gotta pay attention to what you are doing at all times !!!!!
Oh that's definitely a bad joke
I have a 53 Super H. I have tipped the front right up and went of the back. I got lucky and didn't get hurt one day pulling logs out of the woods.
Definitely got lucky
I have a Farmall C with the hand crank on the front , I make sure and double-check that I'm in neutral before I start it or otherwise I could get run over,
I can remember my father talking about a man pulling a set of harrows , he turned to sharp and the back tire pulled the harrows right over top of him
Shocking to hear that