I'm a F1 and WRC fan. Loeb is my favorite racing driver of all time, of all racing categories. I love him more than any F1 driver. Rallying will always be harder, because you have to always read every stone to know how to work with it while you are driving. That means rally drivers are mental. Absolutely mental.
Neither is easier. Rally you are not pushing the car as much compare to road racing. It's like comparing sprint to marathon. Both are talented drivers but you can't say one is easier and one is harder.
Fernandino Alonsini f1 is more of an endurance race. I'm saying things like sprint racing. Formula Renault. GT sprint. Spec miata. These guys are pushing the absolute traction limits. Rally driver on the other hand push the limit of the road and the car and mental limits. I can safely say you can go 10 sec faster on an average stage without the fear of mistakes. But that's the nature of rally racing.
The reason he is so good may come from being a gymnast before racing. He has a greater sense of balance and control and treats the car as an extension of himself so he knows how to keep the car balanced in corners
Nope. The secret to Loeb's success is his driving style. He has the cleanest moat precise driving style. Its almost like a racer, rather than rally. He barely slides the car so he doesn't lose any time. Loeb also has much more precise pace notes. I read somewhere that he has a completely different pace note system.
@@rumblefish9 well, gymnastics is pretty cut an dry, based entirely on precise movements amongst wavering g forces on the body..... exactly like what racers feel
WEC is seen high? ask anyone on the street what races are in the WEC calendar, someone may get LeMans24... it's not WEC that is in high regard, it's LeMans :)
wec and imsa have a very dedicated fan base, but theyre not that popular outside of it. In terms of the difficulty of racing id say wrc > indy (you'd be suprised how hard it is) > f1 > wec > imsa
Gus Johnson: You obviously didn't watch him win those nine seasons. His car control was simply a level up from everybody else. And seriously, what manufacturer has been able to produce a completely dominant car for nine seasons in a row?
And now that we're at it - in his first full season he was one point off the winner while easily beating his very experienced team mates (driving the same car) and previous world champions Carlos Sainz Sr. and Colin McRae. And he kept beating them (and everybody else) with a considerable margin year after year until he decided to try something else. If there's anyone fully deserving the label 'Legend' it's definitely Sebastien Loeb.
I played Richard Burns and then went right to playing dirt rally and I was stunned because the feel of the physics is very similar, I was expecting RBR to be better but it turns out I couldn't really tell the difference at all.
Loeb is a rally driver, Matt and Jimmy are racetrack drivers, I don't think outcome would be much different. I bet Matt could've done better in formula games.
there are certain criterias you have to meet to get a super license, he would have to spend some time in lower grade formula competitions to get enough points to qualify for f1 license. Google f1 super license if you wanna know about it
Doesn't matter if you are a 100 times champion, the licenses are different and their are procedures on how to get each type of license for each type of motorsport. Everybody gets in line for that
I have to admit I love watching Matt struggle to get around a rallycross track. I can slide around any of the WRX tracks in Dirt 4, but when I play F1 I can't even finish one lap without putting it into the wall. I'm glad to see the inverse is true for Matt.
I was a kid back then..When i first started watching wrc my fav was sabastein loeb..But as i grew up i somehow stopped watching wrc ...As my interest in wrc again appeared memories flashed but i forgot his name....but at last after researching i found back his name..True legend..and his car was awesome..
@@xrsktn1718 funny it is coming from a guy like you. He debuted in rally cross in the year 2012. Would age be a factor here mate? He was the best in his prime..he still is..by the way he won a gold medal in his first rally cross event..won the 2018 rally cross event too..anything more you need? Name a rally cross driver winning in pure rally
Did you find help? or you are still in denial...anyway solberg is my quick answer, he shits loeb wherever he meets him in rallycross AGAIN: If he is the best why he struggles to get in a rallycross final???
This is the man who overthrown myth that only Scandinavian (Read: Finnish) can be multiple World Rally Champions more than 2x. And he handed the throne to his compatriot S. Ogier. Together they have more wins than all Finnish drivers combined, 188 vs 178.
couldnt agree more henri was so far above EVERYONE when he died,a true true legend that we never got to see and its sad,that many fans do not know how quick and talented henri was,i had the pleasure of being on the 1980 rac and the way he made that sunbeam dance was insane absolutly insane,without doubt the greatest driver we never got to see fullfil his potential
Toivonen and the GrB guys were absolutely mental, every rally driver is mental tbh but those guys are on a totally new level! Loeb is the greatest in the rally world and maybe in the top 3 of best racing drivers of all time!
I dont think you understand how drivers get their superlicense. You have to have enough points in the lower class formula series to get a superlicense. Loeb didn't.
Walter Röhrl is the greatest rally driver ever. There is no doubt. His story is truly unbelievable. He beat so many drivers who had faaar better cars .
Sebastian Loeb won 912 stages in 171 rallies. That's 5,33 stage wins per rally on average. Markku Alén won 821 stages in 129 rallies. That's 6,36 stage wins per rally on average. Oh yeah, and one of them raced through the Group B era against the fiercest competition ever and the other against a watered down field with no Lancias, no Audis, no Toyotas and FORD as their main competition. I rest my case.
Carlos Sainz is better too. He raced against all the greatest and won in an incredibly competitive era. Loeb winning 9 WRC titles has as little weight as Sebastien Bourdais winning 4 straight Indycar (CART ) titles. When all the greatest drivers were in IRL Bourdais had light competition. Had CART gone one for 5 more seasons then Bourdais most likely would have 9 straight Indycar titles too.
I remember watching 2007 WRC championship where Loeb couldn't attend few rounds because he had a broken arm, so he was interviewed in his home and at one point playing rally game with a wheel:] BTW, he still won the championship.
Loeb not only win WRC 9 times he won them in a row 2004-2012, if im not misstaken he also holds most event wins, most podium finishes and most stage wins...
I wish we got to see Loeb in an F1 car during real races. I am very curious to see what kind of results he would've got. I mean he rarely made mistakes during rallying and that's on much more variable conditions and surfaces that F1.
If you want the answer to how fast is the greatest rally driver of all time at a rally game? You need to get Walter Roehrl and get him to play a rally game.
Rimelight Depends where the powrr of pugs engine was measured. At he start of pikes peak air pressure is at ca 70% of sea level. At the peak it's only 58%. I don't know how much it affects forced induction compared to NA. But it is safely to assume they had similar power @start, mrybe pug had a little more, but VW was getting huge advantage with every meter up.
Loeb is fantastic & Ogier is amazing too! For me personally though, Kalle Rovanperä is the one to watch for the future of WRC, because I certainly believe that he can make it "TEN TIMES IN A ROW!".
It´s a shame he couldn´t race in F1! but any way lol what a person and what a driver! Nothing to be a shame of Math, you went against one of the best drivers in the world !
JonathanC1010 Clips but röhrl drove way lighter way more powerful , faster cars than loeb and managed to win Lancia a constructors championship title (the cars were manuals too back then so there’s that)
@@Qsrjeiwjwj Since when did Senna and Schumacher drive rally? Not even the same cup of tea, and all time best rally driver i would say is by far Sebastian Loeb.
Do they pin comments?
LOL
You have your answer
I guess they do lol
Great question - nice work WTF1.
deym, beach.
I'm a F1 and WRC fan. Loeb is my favorite racing driver of all time, of all racing categories. I love him more than any F1 driver.
Rallying will always be harder, because you have to always read every stone to know how to work with it while you are driving. That means rally drivers are mental. Absolutely mental.
you're absolutely right
But you don't need to do it with 100% ever like in F1
Lewis Hamilton is still far more handsome
Neither is easier. Rally you are not pushing the car as much compare to road racing. It's like comparing sprint to marathon. Both are talented drivers but you can't say one is easier and one is harder.
Fernandino Alonsini f1 is more of an endurance race. I'm saying things like sprint racing. Formula Renault. GT sprint. Spec miata. These guys are pushing the absolute traction limits. Rally driver on the other hand push the limit of the road and the car and mental limits. I can safely say you can go 10 sec faster on an average stage without the fear of mistakes. But that's the nature of rally racing.
The reason he is so good may come from being a gymnast before racing. He has a greater sense of balance and control and treats the car as an extension of himself so he knows how to keep the car balanced in corners
that's actually a great insight.
It totally makes sense.
I read his book. He has amazing memory and remember roads much better than other drives.
Nope. The secret to Loeb's success is his driving style. He has the cleanest moat precise driving style. Its almost like a racer, rather than rally. He barely slides the car so he doesn't lose any time. Loeb also has much more precise pace notes. I read somewhere that he has a completely different pace note system.
@@rumblefish9 well, gymnastics is pretty cut an dry, based entirely on precise movements amongst wavering g forces on the body..... exactly like what racers feel
He is underrated legend. People don't see WRC as high as WEC, Indy, etc.. but seriously.. he is superb.
Aryo Bimo WRC Criminally underrated since apart from TT road racers rally drivers have the biggest balls
Aryo Bimo lol I see WRC second best motorsport series after F1😂. I guess it is just that finns haven't got anything big in other series
WEC is seen high? ask anyone on the street what races are in the WEC calendar, someone may get LeMans24... it's not WEC that is in high regard, it's LeMans :)
Moribax85 true. I know only Le Mans and Spa from their calendar this season😂. I have no idea where their next race is
wec and imsa have a very dedicated fan base, but theyre not that popular outside of it. In terms of the difficulty of racing id say wrc > indy (you'd be suprised how hard it is) > f1 > wec > imsa
I like the in depth review from Loeb - "It's Okay"
Ummmm? Ok?
Gus Johnson: You obviously didn't watch him win those nine seasons. His car control was simply a level up from everybody else. And seriously, what manufacturer has been able to produce a completely dominant car for nine seasons in a row?
And now that we're at it - in his first full season he was one point off the winner while easily beating his very experienced team mates (driving the same car) and previous world champions Carlos Sainz Sr. and Colin McRae. And he kept beating them (and everybody else) with a considerable margin year after year until he decided to try something else. If there's anyone fully deserving the label 'Legend' it's definitely Sebastien Loeb.
Mohd Aiman Azrie except in wrc
Lol this guy was like the MJ of racing. He got so good that he got bored and left to try something else
Dirt rally would have been better
name2things Richard Burns Rally
dirt 4 is better physics imho, the default setups are just wonky.
for WRX Dirt 4 is much better id say.
haha RBR doesnt even have Rallycross what are you on about?
I played Richard Burns and then went right to playing dirt rally and I was stunned because the feel of the physics is very similar, I was expecting RBR to be better but it turns out I couldn't really tell the difference at all.
I want to see Jimmy Broadbent race against Loeb
Rice Box YES
Against Matt
falchulk I want to see the differences a pro sim racer and a pro racer
Loeb is a rally driver, Matt and Jimmy are racetrack drivers, I don't think outcome would be much different. I bet Matt could've done better in formula games.
100% force feedback!
Loeb is the best there ever was and ever will be. The only reason Ogier is winning now is because Loeb stopped. Absolute legend
JSR Devon Walter Röhrl is the best there ever was and will be.
Solberg is and was better!
JSR Devon. Ogier is unbearable. Loeb is a nice guy
Devon, I think Loeb is so good that even your internet would let him find a lobby in Forza 7.
My My09 no man is as fast as my disconnect time
I remember seeing sebastian live couple years ago i was so impressed and happy
Rally drivers are the top skilled drivers. Loeb is by far the best driver there ever was. Senna I love, but Loeb is the king, proved it over and over.
Krešimir Ćosić so true. Loeb>Senna
What??? you seem weirdo anyway....
Valentino rossi.then all others.
Me?
Toivonen?
And he has is own rallygame named Sebastian loeb rally evo...
Marco de Gooijer What's even better is that technically, this is Colin McRae Dirt 4 😂
Commander Turtle Thats true, Colin Mcrea is even better then Loeb.
@@Marco-ym8ry lol he didn't win a single Monte Carlo
Not granting a 9 times world champion a license to race F1 smells of politics
Ace Futura actualy he was told by his wrc team Citroën at the time to focus on wrc rather than f1
To be fair at the time he was only a 6 time world champion.
there are certain criterias you have to meet to get a super license, he would have to spend some time in lower grade formula competitions to get enough points to qualify for f1 license. Google f1 super license if you wanna know about it
Doesn't matter if you are a 100 times champion, the licenses are different and their are procedures on how to get each type of license for each type of motorsport. Everybody gets in line for that
I think he wouldn't even had liked driving formula cars that much.. He's a rally guy, he want's it raw and sideways
i remember when loeb started he was a tarmac expert then he just needed to improve his dirt game
I have to admit I love watching Matt struggle to get around a rallycross track. I can slide around any of the WRX tracks in Dirt 4, but when I play F1 I can't even finish one lap without putting it into the wall. I'm glad to see the inverse is true for Matt.
Rally legend. He is the reason why i love rally better than any other 4 wheeled racing
I was a kid back then..When i first started watching wrc my fav was sabastein loeb..But as i grew up i somehow stopped watching wrc ...As my interest in wrc again appeared memories flashed but i forgot his name....but at last after researching i found back his name..True legend..and his car was awesome..
I have only seen you on tarmac, when the interesting thing in Rally comes with different slippery and bouncy surfaces!
Now try on an F1 game. Matt you're an AOR champion and the master of the amber lounge at the Chinese grand proc. Don't let me down I believe in you!
This guy knows that he is the best at what he does.
jerryl davis Really? Have fun watching your idol getting humilliated in rallycross
@@xrsktn1718 he is the best..dont be jealous dude..face it..and pls dont cry anymore
Rougester Seek for help immediately, you have issues, good luck!
Btw, if he is the best why does he strugles to finish 7th in rallycross? any ideas?
@@xrsktn1718 funny it is coming from a guy like you. He debuted in rally cross in the year 2012. Would age be a factor here mate? He was the best in his prime..he still is..by the way he won a gold medal in his first rally cross event..won the 2018 rally cross event too..anything more you need? Name a rally cross driver winning in pure rally
Did you find help? or you are still in denial...anyway solberg is my quick answer, he shits loeb wherever he meets him in rallycross
AGAIN:
If he is the best why he struggles to get in a rallycross final???
This is the man who overthrown myth that only Scandinavian (Read: Finnish) can be multiple World Rally Champions more than 2x. And he handed the throne to his compatriot S. Ogier. Together they have more wins than all Finnish drivers combined, 188 vs 178.
LOEB = Electrician = Grasp of serious physics = Fast = 6 consecutive wins = GOAT
He's so underrated
I'm convinced Loeb has a photographic memory on top of being an excellent driver.
Ah damn, you make me go watch rally videos again. Time to binge watch Walter Röhrl videos...
Probably faster than the aliens
3:10 "Alejandro Aroca García" THAT'S MEEEEEE!!!! HAHAHAHA, Loeb is using the simulator i used for the World Championships!!!!!
You should’ve chalanged him at dirt rally,the hardest dirt
He should have completed the 10.
referring to the title of this video: i can't see Walter Röhrl playing a rallye game.
The Group B was a spectacular class in the 80s, but i don't think if Sebastian would be better than Walter, Henri etc.
Das Elefant We dont know but he would be up there for sure
couldnt agree more henri was so far above EVERYONE when he died,a true true legend that we never got to see and its sad,that many fans do not know how quick and talented henri was,i had the pleasure of being on the 1980 rac and the way he made that sunbeam dance was insane absolutly insane,without doubt the greatest driver we never got to see fullfil his potential
Toivonen and the GrB guys were absolutely mental, every rally driver is mental tbh but those guys are on a totally new level! Loeb is the greatest in the rally world and maybe in the top 3 of best racing drivers of all time!
Fia Giving super licenses...
With loeb: No you don't get one..
With Maldonado: Take your license bud!
I dont think you understand how drivers get their superlicense. You have to have enough points in the lower class formula series to get a superlicense. Loeb didn't.
Loebs Pikes Peak run was impressive, but pls watch Walters run in the S1 "Urquattro" which was unbroken until they did the road!
Walter Röhrl is the greatest rally driver ever. There is no doubt. His story is truly unbelievable. He beat so many drivers who had faaar better cars .
Diego Huber No.
@@Thunderworks Why no? do you know about him?
Sebastian Loeb won 912 stages in 171 rallies. That's 5,33 stage wins per rally on average.
Markku Alén won 821 stages in 129 rallies. That's 6,36 stage wins per rally on average.
Oh yeah, and one of them raced through the Group B era against the fiercest competition ever and the other against a watered down field with no Lancias, no Audis, no Toyotas and FORD as their main competition. I rest my case.
Carlos Sainz is better too. He raced against all the greatest and won in an incredibly competitive era. Loeb winning 9 WRC titles has as little weight as Sebastien Bourdais winning 4 straight Indycar (CART ) titles. When all the greatest drivers were in IRL Bourdais had light competition. Had CART gone one for 5 more seasons then Bourdais most likely would have 9 straight Indycar titles too.
Samirs Co-Driver: Samir your breaking the car!!!!!!!!
Matts Co-Driver: Matt your breaking the car!!!!!!!
his pike's peak record just got smashed by Romain Dumas in a fully electric VW
ye tru, but different categories i think... Almost the same as a different weight class in fighting
The greatest Rallye driver of all time is called Walter Röhrl.
Bro, pay more attention to wrc, it´s at least 1000 times better than f1. Face it, it´s a fact
Soo damm true
Right Rear tyre: **gone**
Matt: *I think my car is damaged but I'm not sure*
As a Finn i give all Respect for Loeb a true Champion.
Loeb is an alien.....
Sébastien Loeb, quel champion...et accessible même avec les "joueurs du dimanche"!
Didn‘t see Walter Röhrl tough...
I am french, and that's fun to see a famous french dude speak english XD
That was awesome...I think I'm starting to get interested in Rally Racing.
I remember watching 2007 WRC championship where Loeb couldn't attend few rounds because he had a broken arm, so he was interviewed in his home and at one point playing rally game with a wheel:] BTW, he still won the championship.
*2006
0:30 someone meme this please
Jack Ryeng hello darkness my old friend!
Alonso and Loeb are the best drivers of all time
The best driver on earth.
Ok, ding dung, can you show how Loeb plays the game?
I think he should Drive Dirt Rally vs Walther Röhrl, that´s gone be interesting;)
Let's stare at their faces the entire time! Well done!
I came here after reading the title. Now where is the footage of Walter Röhrl playing the videogame?
the best, superb pilot and superb person
At 2004 the world knew, the French would OWN the WRC Drivers' Championship
i read the title and dont see Walter Röhrl
weird
When there no rally season at the moment, he take contract to make some wiring work on some parts on his daily
N I N E T I M E S I N A E R O W
Dirt Rally beats Dirt 4 hands down.
The rallycross on dirt 4 is amazing. Just a shame that the rallying itsself is so bad in that game
A legend vs a cub
I want him in F1!
Rallying is a real mans sport
Loeb not only win WRC 9 times he won them in a row 2004-2012, if im not misstaken he also holds most event wins, most podium finishes and most stage wins...
I wish we got to see Loeb in an F1 car during real races. I am very curious to see what kind of results he would've got. I mean he rarely made mistakes during rallying and that's on much more variable conditions and surfaces that F1.
If you want the answer to how fast is the greatest rally driver of all time at a rally game? You need to get Walter Roehrl and get him to play a rally game.
Imagine if Matt started raging like he does in F1 games xD
They should be characters of Rally Racing
Rallycross is so much harder on dirt 4 than normal rally tbh
Did y’all just suddenly forget about the group B champion Walter röhrl? Loeb himself admitted that Walter is the best there is
His Pikes Peak record just got smashed by an electric car with more weight and less horsepower.
The future.
Rimelight Depends where the powrr of pugs engine was measured. At he start of pikes peak air pressure is at ca 70% of sea level. At the peak it's only 58%. I don't know how much it affects forced induction compared to NA. But it is safely to assume they had similar power @start, mrybe pug had a little more, but VW was getting huge advantage with every meter up.
I have huge and i mean HUGE respect for Loeb but there is only one Il Dottore!!! He is absolute driver!
Loeb is fantastic & Ogier is amazing too! For me personally though, Kalle Rovanperä is the one to watch for the future of WRC, because I certainly believe that he can make it "TEN TIMES IN A ROW!".
This aged well 🎉
Seb vs seb would have been amazing
2:06 are those supposed to be scary numbers? I’m over here like when’s my turn
i wonder if sebastions car is faster if he isnt sitting on THOSE MASSIVE BALLS OF STEEL
THIS MAN HAS NO FEARS
0:10 No no no micheal schumacher is the sebastian loeb of the F1
I want to see him vs everyone at their own motorsports.. he'd make everyone look slow
It´s a shame he couldn´t race in F1! but any way lol what a person and what a driver!
Nothing to be a shame of Math, you went against one of the best drivers in the world !
Sebastian Loeb needs to try his hand at F1
Why am I seeing this now and not like a year ago
I'm jealous of you right now Matt Seb Loeb is my hero
Subjective title. Most WRC wins, does not equal greatest, necessarily.
liverush24 then what does? Most losses? Most iconic lines? Loeb is just a humble everyday man who gets shit done without beating the bush around it.
Tobbsnobb Nothing does, really. It can't really be quantified.
liverush24 do you mean it due to the fact that drivers come and go and therefore we cant compare since not everyone have gone head to head?
Tobbsnobb Yeah. And the different machinery, etc.
You would have lost F1 simulator for Loeb too. :)
Super-license is a joke... Sebastian is a professional driver he don’t need a super-license
He is rally and rally is him. They have become one.. like spice girl’s songs.. 2 become 1..
The title made me laugh big time
He is an absolute legend, bute the title ´best ever´ goes to Röhrl.
Absolutely not. Sorry.
Going up against Loeb... what did you expect..? 😂😂
Sébastien Loeb my idol from Alsace. Jetz gehts Los!
*Jetzt geht's los
L'Alsace la base
Die Legende oui, un peu de mal à écrire l'alsacien 😅
Appris à l'oral mais pas à l'écrit 😉
alsace lothringen ist deutsch
Loeb is the best Rally Driver of all time?
You´ve never heard of Walter Röhrl I guess.
9 in a row
Before him, Ari Vatanen was unbeatable. Did they race against each other?
Ari was fast sure but for me best driver ever has to be henri toivonen
Rule is if your name begins with Sebastian you win Sebastian ogier and Loeb.
Greatest ? Walter röhrl? Didn‘t you heard about the best?🤔
Tilo Schumacher Walter Röhrl is and will be the best rallye racing Driver in History for me .... the absolute completest ever
Mr. Let's cheat in most of the races in order to win the championship
Alpacasaurus Rex what? When did he cheat ?
Yeah, Röhrl and Loeb are the best ones of THEIR TIME, you can't just compare them since cars have changed over the years
JonathanC1010 Clips but röhrl drove way lighter way more powerful , faster cars than loeb and managed to win Lancia a constructors championship title (the cars were manuals too back then so there’s that)
Loeb looking like Russel Crowe :D
I think we all know the best rally driver of all time
Walter Röhrl 🔥🙏🏻
Not by a long shot.
@@DirtyRC101 Prime Röhrl is on par with Senna, Schumacher, Clark and Fangio.
@@Qsrjeiwjwj Since when did Senna and Schumacher drive rally? Not even the same cup of tea, and all time best rally driver i would say is by far Sebastian Loeb.
Theres something odd when you compare the two guys head at 3:50. It's like he is giant
ever heard of Colin Mcrae?
nothing wrong losing to Loeb
Power of france 💪🇫🇷