This air cooler is actually terrible for modern CPUs
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I would like to see the top 5 aircoolers by price compare and performance. This would be very educational to all new builders.
Top 5?
More like the one and only NH-D15
Winner will be Noctua NH-D15. That is the best, hands down, air cooler on the market.
@@jesperviktorsson8027 At a price to performance comparison, that noctua looses to the thermalright peerless assassin because it give almost identical performance at 1/3 the price. That is also why noctua is currently making a replacement for the NHD15
For a fraction of the cost of the noctua you can get nearly identical performance from a peerless assassin 120
@@nickhubble2838 Thermalright peerless assassin is 1/3 the price for nearly identical performance
I would love to see and amazon cooler shootout as you said. I think it would be nice to see some of the crap that people over pay for for looks vs what actually works.
Or the diamonds in the rough.
Any Intel space heater?
$15 Deep Cool, 4 pipe, 120m fan to replace the wraith cooler that came with my 5600x. Immediate 20 degrees cooler. More than 1 degree per dollar spent. The "looks" are definitely what some people are paying for. I just used a permanent marker to make the top black. ;)
@@Drok_Dagoon Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo 🤷🏻♂️
Check out Hardware Canucks. They have some great air cooler shootouts.
A 360 aio is a solid test for sure, but I feel a Dark rock pro 4 or the Noctua variant would have been nice to see. One thing I liked about the this new cooler was how the sides of the fins were a little more closed off to force air over the fins/pipes more than my old dark pro 4.
Edit, another thing would have been Ram clearance.. but thats difference for every board. My Drp4 had to be "rigged" on one side to accommodate for RAM clearance. I needed just 1-3 blasted mm
yeah it's an air cooler so it's only fair to pit it up against other air coolers if he uses say 100 watt and goes up he can figure where this one falls into the line up for it wattage cooling rating since they do not tell you on the box
I genuinely appreciate Jay's concept of money. $75. isn't a lot of money until it has to last a while. Other creators might say it's only $75. so buy it it's cheap. We all could use reminders about value vs cost in these days of $2,000. GPUs.
Yeah we have been desensitized to the prices. I hope in the next few years we have better price to performance cards but thats my optimism speaking
If you can afford a $2k GPU. You should be able to afford a $200 cpu cooler.🤷
@@kdcustoms1272 I used to agree with you, but these days it's all too common for graphics cards to be purchased on Finance. I mean you can get a RTX 4080 for around 30 quid a month over 4 years, or 54 quid per month for 2 years. That's more palitable for some folks than buying outright.
@@madness1931 Then you are buying what you cannot afford. He is %100 right regardless.
@@kdcustoms1272 Yeah I’m sick of clowns having 4090’s with 850w PSU’s, Intel I5’s or AMD 7600x.
If it’s copper, it’s gold
No, it's copper
@@Stedera it’s a figure of speech. Saying copper is the best for cooling
@@switchup_gaming I know;)
@@Stedera oh okay! Lol
Am4 and am5 have the same mounting holes(54mm x 90mm), am5 has a backplate that is ”not user removable”.
Am3 and some earlier I think has 48mm x 96mm mounting holes. Asus has elongated holes on their lga 1700 series motherboard so both the new mounting holes 78mm and the older lga 115x/1200 (75mm) series motherboards.
Just a correction and some other random info…
Glad someone else caught that too.
Yeah I was yelling at the screen saying "that's intel!".
Been seeing more and more of these little mistakes lately...
Bingo. As long as the AM4 cooler uses the stock AMD backplate (which any sane design should) it will be compatible with AM5. Some real low profile coolers that screw on from the back would not be compatible as an example.
Glad to see this comment here.
There is already plenty of confusion with AM5 cooler compatibility, even though it is very simple.
Mistakes like the one in this video make it worse.
Instead of long fan/rgb cables, the cables should have terminated at the base of the cooler, and from from that point on you would use their included cable extensions to attach it to your mobo/hub. That way you can have any color cable you like. Some brands such as noiseblocker do this, and it's definitely preferable than the producer choosing the cable length and color for you. Custom cooler and casefan producers, please let us customize! edit: In Win polaris/saturn fans also have removable cables, and I'm guessing Lian Li Unifans do as well.
I am guessing they are white cables to match the cooler put in a presumably whit themed build. Willing to bet the black version has black cables..
@@ianball3972 Almost certainly. But I get what Jay is saying - black motherboards are by far the most common, and the white cable is going to really stand out against a black background, even if the board has white or silver accents. Mobos with white PCB or "armor" are few and far in between, so nearly all white builds are in reality black in the small area where the cable is visible.
@@Arashmickey I know what you are saying :)
id cooling and deep cool have been my favorite affordable quality options and i believe they deserve more recognition.
Deep Cool AK620 CPU Air Cooler
Personally been using an ID-Cooling 360 XT AIO and its been great (And the waterblock looks really nice too). Also greatly priced since at around $90-ish, its essentially cheaper than getting 3 case fans (which also comes with the purchase) & a tower cooler.
@@immelting9834 ive been looking at the thermalright peerless assassin since its like half the price of the AK620
Deep Cool Ls720 for my Ryzen 7 5800x
I like little case displays and cooler displays, but I'd love if companies put a bit more effort into handling the excess of wires. I didn't think I'd ever pay something like $90 for three fans, but once I saw the Llian Li daisy chain ability, I forked over the cash without a second thought. It makes things so much nicer, neater, and simple if every component you add doesn't have four or five wires to run to make it work. For CPU/case display systems, I'd love if they just use bluetooth or wifi for the connection. I know you'd be adding a transceiver, but c'mon, there's $10 gimmicky crap all over the place with bluetooth and wi-fi compatibility. Hell, given we're talking something that's going to be sitting right in the middle of your build, they could easily get away with using Bluetooth LE.
opposite here i hate wifi. everything that can be wired should be. it's cheaper AND almost always faster less error prone more bandwidth etc.
displayport over wifi or bluetooth sounds like an actual nightmare.
@@Nebulak187 We're talking a tiny low resolution screen here. If my phone can handle casting 4k video to a television over wi-fi from twenty feet away, my desktop gaming PC can handle sending a signal to a sub-DVD resolution display sitting adjacent to the component it is communicating with.
As someone who actually considered getting this cooler I was really interested to see how it stacked up. I'd love to see a shootout video to help with my purchase decisions!
Honestly this cooler performs a lot better many others with similar price point. As Dark Rock Pro 4 and NH-D15 are rated for 250W and still gonna hit mid-high 80s in temp, with a lot higher price tags, this cooler is a pretty good deal.
I bought one of these a while ago for an i5 7th gen, and it cooled that fine ~50-55 C under load with basic Arctic thermal paste. Anyway, corsair vengence LPX, the low profile ram, does fit under the cooler if anyone was wondering.
I think it's great for them to include that screwdriver, because a normal length screwdriver would never work with that cooler. I use the ID Cooling SE-226xt air cooler with my 12700k and never get temps over 85c. It's only $49 but you will need an extra-long screwdriver because it's not provided or wasn't when I bought it. An amazon air cooler show down on the newest Intel and AMD platforms would be great.
Scythe does this too, its great. Maybe not for all, but my FUMA 2 had one in the box and my brother had one for his Ninja 5. It's just a super long Philips 2 screwdriver. But it's actually a good screwdriver! The length helped me out a few times in other DIY stuff. Also, for anyone interested those 2 coolers are dead silent. They keep our 5600x's super cool (yes I know they are kind of overkill coolers for those CPU's)
I like the idea of an Amazon air cooler shootout video. Appreciate all that you do for the community :)
Note to self lol. Re-seat your CPU when replacing a cooler or thermal compound especially on a PGA (Pin Grid Array) cpu. I put a new cooler on and my PC started to randomly crash shortly after doing so. I took the cooler back off and re-seated the CPU and it has been fine since then.
I saw these when I was looking at coolers but didn't think it would be beefy enough to handle an AM5 7700x, good to see a review on it though! I'd definitely love to see a comparison, though I think I settled on a good one with the Deepcool AG620, keeping my cpu nice and cool.
The 8 core CPU’s are not that power hungry they are the equivalent to I5’s.
A wraith stealth is enough for it to barely throttle a 7700x
Yes.
Normally I would go strait into AIO or custom water cooling but personal cost constraints are pushing me into a mid-CPU and Air cooler for my future build. I would appreciate an tower cooler comparison and guidance. I have not looked into this as closely in the past and am finding myself asking more questions than if I were just shopping for an AIO.
I used to be the same way, im still on a AIO but i went with deep cool, quality with a very affordable price im very impressed and keeps my 5.0ghz 9th gen i5 nice and chilly. ID cooling is doing very good things as well, i got my wife one of there white tower coolers for her rig and the cooler does very well and the fans and the rgb are well done, also affordable!
It's not that complicated. You want a heatsink that will have as much surface area as possible with a fan with the most static pressure possible. A thicker heatsink with more densely packed fins will have more surface area but also more impedence which will mean it needs higher static pressure fans or two fans in push pull configuration. Dual tower coolers are usually the best performing since they their thinner towers and multiple fan designs allow the fans to push through the fin stack more easily. Also, with modern CPUs having a copper cold plate contacting the CPU is better than having direct contact heatpipes, but it's not s huge deal.
If you want a single tower cooler then the Arctic freezer 34 duo is great for the money. For dual towers the scythe fuma 2 is cheap, small-ish and has great performance. The noctua NHD-15 is clearly a monster, but it's quite expensive.
Well, Gamer Nexus already made a cheap air towers comparison
I went air-cooling because my room already gets hot as hell, with water-cooling it would be even worse. I'm running a NH-D15 on a R7 3700x and never see over 62*C. Air cooling is just as capable in a gaming rig, imo.. I think it isn't until you start pushing the OC that you start to need more efficient cooling than a high-end air cooler
thermalright peerless assassin PE 120...
i literally have the black one and was looking for a vid like this when i bought it 2 months ago for my 5600x
The advantage of AMD CPU is that are a bit more easy to cool down with Air CPU coolers so that's good.
I have other model of the same brand and still works fine, my CPU is not that hotter so is not a big deal for the Cooler I've bought
20:52 that dancing sticker would drive me mad in the long term though, gah.
Would love to see the V5 against the U6, Peerless assassin, AK620, AG620, AG500, AK500, AK400 Zero Dark, and all those neat coolers between $20 and $60 price range!
This is what I had! For a few months before I went water cooled! It was decent for a Ryzen 7 5800x
As a Cinema 4D user - this cooler scared me! I'm using the Ice Giant cooler - I moved away from using the Arctic Freezer 2 about a year ago - and it has been great. I like the idea of a dedicated screen on a heatsink - I wish more air coolers or vape-chamber system had that- Having a cooler via raspberry pi or a screen setup in windows for cool monitoring either builds up more heat or gets in the way of other applications.
"almost a whole gigahert" had me cracking up. I'm sure Heinrich Hertz appreciates it
YES - An "Amazon Air Coller" Shoot Off video would be FANTASTIC !!
Probably not the best option for a budget build at that price, however it is very aesthetic and would look great in an all white build if that is what someone was after. The screen though maybe a bit of a gimmick is a handy feature already built into the cooler. I really like the way it looks and on a more efficient CPU, t would keep it cool enough. Thank you for reviewing such an odd piece. I do enjoy these types of videos.
I’m getting this for my next build
"this cooler is terrible."
*shows it working pretty well*
sure, it wasnt a modern CPU, yes it could be a lot better. but honestly, that isnt the worst thing i've seen plunked on a cpu. my build is planned to have an even older intel, so i might remember that thing if im hard up for a cooler
Cooler shoot out is a neat idea. Arguably one of the most important parts of a system build to get right ,But often looked at as an area to shave a few dollars off the build I know i have done it myself and ended up spending more as a consequence
0:45 you just couldn't help throwing shade at Linus, huh? I lol'd
As long as the AM4 mount uses the standard AMD backplate it will be directly compatible with the AM5 backplate that is screwed into the socket. The coolers that are not compatible are the ones that use their own backplates. For examples grab any Asetek AIO cooler and the AM4 mount you snap onto the pump fits perfectly fine. Screw on the standoff's and bolt it on.
Exactly. Those weird oval holes Jay talked about are relevant to LGA1700 from Intel to let you install an LGA115X cooler.
*If* he was talking about AM4 there were actually some boards with oval holes to allow the installation of an AM3+ compatible cooler.
But the hole spacing between AM4 and AM5 is *literally* the same. You only run into trouble with stuff like old EK blocks with their own backplate (ask me how I know).
I wish this test were run with equipment in factory fresh out of the box conditions
because when you start messing with voltages and all these other setting that most people (don’t understand or) aren’t going to change these results end up being like 1 in 1000
Just give us a 13900 or a AM5 test with factory settings. No overclocks no undervolts and fan rpm settings that are comparable to the test cooler rpms
I have a 4 pipe, 120mm fan, Deep Cool air cooler that was $15. Replaced my Wraith cooler that came with my 5600x and saw an immediate 20 degree difference. Cinebench throttled before with the Wraith, now it stays under 80c. My max boost will hit 4.8Ghz also. ;)
even though it's really inaccurate, the LCD looks great and the RGB are very nice. But from what I heard, it's not the quietest and the build quality and the heat dissipation ain't the best. Then again, it's not very expensive so people mostly buy it for aesthetic purposes.
Seems to be worth using if you're using locked chips and don't mind a bit of noise. Or if you really want an LCD, you can wait for Deepcool upcoming LCD aircooler that was set to release around late Q1 - early Q2, but expect for the price to be pretty high.
I think that it would be more interesting if they just made a decent looking little CPU tempature display that could just be mounted to the top of most air coolers for like $20. Make it come with different color trims and/or a ring of rgb around it. They would probably have to use double sided tape, but I guess that would be OK if it came with good tape.
Problem is how you have a temperature sensor, unless you just mimic the motherboard information.
Yes please do an Amazon cooler shootout, that would be a very cool comparison Jay!
I use Alseye W12 fans in my case. They move a crap ton of air and I absolutely love them
Even my noctua nh-d15 struggled to cool my 7600x running R23 it was around 90-93c, it was boosting to 5.4ghz, even with two 360mm rads and a custom loop cooling the cpu/gpu, it's still was hitting around 77-80c, in eco mode it's down to 67c. running games around 51c, these new processors run really hot compared to my old intel i7 7700k.
I want to let you know that Amazons AMT99X made it this year. Any better way to start a global change? Don't get me wrong I know they are not like altruists or something but they keep doing the right thing to improve the situation, power the ecomonmy and so much more. We need players like them and we can always jump in the train at good spots such as this one
Sounds more like bots selling garbage coins
I think for the casual gamer that wants a little bling this cooler would be quite fine.
I've been using the gammaxx 300 cooler in my old i7 7700 which is now in my 8 year old daughter's all pink pc build and also in my i3 12100f..it's absolutely perfect. It's whisper quiet..And when I mean quiet, I don't think i have ever heard it. And it just works,keeps my cpu's away from that 90 degree celsius heat and my daughter's room is very hot and the pc has never restarted,whereby it used to restart when I had it in my old cosmos s case and a stock cooler..now it just looks beautiful and works.I love those gamaxx 300 coolers.They are absolutely silent and just do the job perfectly.
Just leaving this here.. My heart goes to the entire community for Amazons AMT99X building up something which is worth it for everyone. This is so smart by them to launch and shatter the doubts and fears of the common folk, which was misplaced by all the drama we had last years. Everyone knows the state of inflation and recession now and the way out is already in progress. Now it's just about catching the big fish, ya feelin?
Sounds more like bots selling garbage coins
Oh, another crypto scam. How novel.
These bots are getting more creative in their comments to get your attention give them that at least lol. It's sounds like something noble and relevant at first glance, But then dig down and it's the same old crypto bull. Oh, And they are super persistent! Despite the fact crypto currency has died other horrible death recently.
Interesting talk about Amazons AMT99X I suggest anyone to listen to the guy talking about it in the video. Personally I didn't think they would really do that but seems like the launch just happened and there are enough slots available, could be worth huh
Sounds more like bots selling garbage coins
Nowadays, if I build a PC, I go with a e2e4 cooler - not sure if the bran even exists outside of Russia. Either way, they make really good coolers for cheap. For example, I bought a six-heat-pipe tower cooler with a 120mm fan for about 15 dollars. The fan may not be the best - plus it has RGB vomit you can't turn off - but it performs well enough. It cools Phenom II x4 960T in overclock (about 105W TDP) very well, the temps don't exceed 55C in a poorly-ventilated case. I have a four-heat-pipe version of it in my main PC that has Ryzen 5 2600x in stock, and it handles that just fine too. I believe, if fans are replaced, both of those coolers would perform even better, but I am fine with them as they are.
Do it, do a shootout of these air coolers. I'm a fan of custom loops for ITX builds. But having the CPU on air and the GPU on a custom loop would be a direction I would go if there is an air-cooler out there that can handle 13700K.
Quick quality of life tip for your bad poking-with-metal-items habit, put a container of wooden skewers near your work spaces.
They also are great for getting rid of that last piece of annoying stuff between components.
The Amazon listing for this cooler now shows its wattage as 235 watts. Might need to rethink if you want to get it for a CPU with that much wattage.
Jay, how about a challenge? Build the most "sleeper" computer that looks like an old beige box, but inside is a power house? So if someone breaks in, they look at the computer and go; "No way that thing probably can't run Windows XP!".
Make it look like the original IBM PC - "Will this old 1985 IBM PC run Windows 11 with only 640 K of RAM ? " "Hey look this old PC beats a 12900 - how can that be?" .... Well April 1 is coming up! "Bill Gates was right after all we don't need more than 640K of RAM"🤣
"Nick! Come get hit by this plastic thing!"
"ow"
I would love to see a shoot out for amazon coolers. Would also like to see some kind of 'best cooler for hot CPU in a small case' shoot out. like 5800x in an SFF case or something like that
I'm pretty happy with my Arctic Freezer 34 Duo. The other case fans I ordered are still delayed but I already wanted to try out my first PC build for Warhammer40k Darktide. It managed to keep the I7-13900k installed at around ~80° with only one exhaust fan in the back of the case.
I think a serious/informative amazon cooler shoot out would be great, but one that showcases the more ridiculous ones would be entertaining as well. When are we getting another RIP JAY/GN???
"I'm worried about the screen scratching as you wipe it down"
Meanwhile I'm using a spatula to remove the dust from my machine from 10 years ago I never cleaned.
"That is gonna be throttle city" is the funniest thing he has ever said. lmao
Yes do a Amazon air cooler comparison, I also saw another air cooler with temp gauge but it was the horizontal style fan on Amazon as well. I thought that would be cool to check out and it was much cheaper though way less cooling I’m sure
The first title was ' this cooler has display in but let's see how it performs ' or something similar to this meaning
Phil: "Hey Nic, come get hit with this plastic thing!"
Nic: *listens*
Me: ".... what?"
Hey Jay,
AM5 holespacing is exactly the same as AM4. The Z-Axis hight remains the same too. So that is not the Problem as to why AM4 coolers may not fit on AM5. It's that the backplate is integrated in the AM5 Socket.
I don't want to seem like the overly correct commenter, but you made a mistake there Regarding AM5 in the beginning.
Hope you don't mind me correcting.
i actually have this exact one, just black, and my build is: Biostar B450MH, Ryzen 5 5500, Radeon RX6600, 16 GB ddr4 and paid around 1200€ and i think for the cooler was around 45€.
i had my pc built for me in a shop as i know nothing about components and i'm learning watching videos by you, Linus, GN and few other italian one as well.
in the future i'll swap some components to improve it, but i need to finish to pay for it first.
amazon shootout or a "buy this, not that" comparison video would be super cool!
Regarding not showing TDP, I’ve found many brand name coolers not list TGP in the specs. Aside from socket compatibility, TGP is THE most important spec for a cooling solution.
I would really enjoy to see a cooler show off, I have a termalright cooler that seems to work for my 5800x, but I would like to see how it compares to others.
3:45 the moment when you just drop this model and go looking for another one
When Jay said "Attack of the AIO" I thought he said "Attack of the SHOW" Oh kevin Pereira.. you so bested olivia
It just gets more serious when you touch your glasses and give us an “you need to remember….”
The fact that I had a linus ad then the linus reference, made me laugh lol
I haven’t air cooled a PC in 10 years, but would watch a air cooler showdown video in a heartbeat.
Full send... I want to see the shootout
I like finding and seeing cheap things perform high.
I remember watching your videos when you first made the best bang for buck computer build series. So glad you are still making content, I remember how you made a computer for your daughter I think...
This is the reason I tune into your channel... I miss this kind of content!
Too expensive. If you're buying a CPU cooler, you either get the cheapest one because you don't care, or you _do care_ and thus you get like a U12A for $100.
Paying $30 or $40 for a cheap cooler that works well enough? Cool. Once I'm paying $70 though, _I figure I may as well just spend a little more and get the Noctua._
I bought the black version of that for my build last summer and it's been doing ok. I like the temp screen just for monitoring.
Its running on a x570 tomahawk wifi w/ ryzen 5800x, 8g x 4 corsair vengeance pro, & rtx 3060 12g. Cool to see you do a review on it, i watch your videos all the time.
one thing that you have to remember is the the TDP listed on processors is the non turbo base frequency TDP. for overclocking and perm boost you really need a minimum of 4 times the base cooling, so for a 65W TDP processor you would need a minimum of a 260W cooler, that is when you have a good temperature differential, in warmer rooms like in summer, you would need more than that.
the biggest point here is the temp of the air going into the cooler, it really doesn't matter where or how the cooler is mounted, it is the temperature of the air going into the cooler that matters.
There is a very simple reason most render farms, etc, are air cooled. Simple fact is, if you have heat spikes from constant load, your radiator has cycle to even begin to impact it, where as a fan hitting a higher fan curve is immediate on the thermal dissipation.
I ran Cinebench r23 on a Threadripper 3990x in a machine I built with ZERO prior knowledge of how to build one, from scratch, not a kit. My CPU maxed out at 49C in overclock mode and scored 59,990 was so annoyed I just missed the 60,000 mark. AND AGAIN, that was me making an AIR COOLED machine, since no way was I messing with AOC for my first build. In a bedroom that was 80F. Since the AC in this house is terrible and ancient. Had AC people out here multiple times to service all 4 units (big house) and everyone refused to install a new unit. Since my machines are literally 15 years old minimum (nearing 20, now). BUT I did go with Noctua Industrial line. So... 49C overclocked but 80dB. LOL...
I would like to see a CPU cooler comparison including both intel and AMD test results. Deepcool AK400 and SilentiumPC Fera 5 should be included for budget options.
@Omega613 Holy hell, I feel like I'm going crazy... did I miss it? Can you please tell me what CPU Jay used in this video? Is it me or did he never mention what 10th gen CPU he actually used?
Use an anti static wipe ONCE and just blow it off annually. No scratches and easy cleaning.
The correct spec to report would be thermal resistance (C/W) not just "power rating" (W). A power rating is basically arbitrary, whereas thermal resistance tells you how much temperature rise you will get per W dissipated.
Of course no one reports thermal resistance because that would make comparing actual performance too easy.
15:22 I loved that bill orielly joke
"Nic! Come get hit with this plastic thing!"
This is the msot homie moment I ever saw in a TH-cam video
My giant phanteks ph-tc14pe runs 90C with 5800X3D. Cooler reviewed is actually impressive.
I was worried when I switched from an AIO to an air cooler for my CPU, but I went with Noctua cooler and it works great. But I don't OC or doing anything fancy so it's more than enough.
A showdown would be great. I plan on upgrading my pc sometime in the next 3 months
"I don't know why I am suddenly talking like Linus" 🤣🤣
I am shopping now for an air cooler to put on an AMD 7800X3D. I use my systems for ~6 to 8 years and then hand them down so I don't want an AIO that won't last the life of the computer.
thank you so much jay for understanding that its taxing as hell on the controller to overclock ram, while populating all 4 slots
The Amazon cooler shootout would be interesting
Ah the "Peel Off" Stickers that most people forgets and applying thermal paste on top of it lol.
"I don't know why I'm suddenly talking like Linus " (I pitch voice) Took me out! 😅🤣🤣😂🤣😅
Incidentally, @JayzTwoCents, I just searched for the air cooler. It's a 235W, according to the Canadian site.
6:25 the moment Jay and Linus were no longer friends.
lol I love it when he mocks the grammar on packaging
Yes do the Amazon Cooler Shoot out video! I would like to see that!
"Lets look at the specs before we take it out of the box." said as the cooler lays on the table
Jay, Phil and Nic remind me of top gear, just 3 guys that love tech but at the same is super funny.
Phil "Hey Nic, come get hit by this plastic thingy" Nic "OW" I laughed so hard.
As a potential first time builder, I would be highly interested in an air cooler comparison, or top 5 etc. I would also like a water cooler baseline as well based on radiator size (120, 240, 360) to be included to not only show which air coolers are effective, but also it might be more worth it to upgrade to water cooler depending on stock/oc and general performance expectations and outlook
first time builder you say, i would deffo go with a AIO hydrocooler. instead of pure air cooling.
Make sure to setup fans with proper intake and exhaust.
Make sure when you choose a motherboard that you get DIMMS your motherboard naturally communicates with.
Building now a days is super easy compared to back in the days, remember more RPM on the intake than the exhaust, and pay attention to the CFM of the fans you buy, and if you dont want a noisy computer, go for Noctua :)
@@LeFingal thanks for the notes. I definitely feel like I'll go AIO since I'm considering a 13th gen chip. But I was still curious where the dropoff would be or if air could compare to a 240. Or when it'd be worth getting a 360 vs 240 kinda thing
If you are going for the 13900K i would recommend buying a CPU bracket along with an AIO. The temperature difference is major. We are talking 20-30 degrees Celsius difference under heavy load and about 10-15 degrees difference at idle temps.
I have a 280mm on my 11900K thats 2x140mm on a rad, works just fine. I am going with a 360 3x120mm later, mainly because the radiator is larger, therefor heats up slower and it fits my intake better to have 120 exhausting on top than 2x140mm.
Right now i have a quite stupid settings for my setup at the same time its not that stupid.
In front i have 3x120mm
1x120 @ 1600 rpm max
2x120 @ 2200 rpm max
Now the one that cant do 2200 rpm will be cahnged to the same fan as the two that does do 2200 rpm.
the radiator mounted on top is with 2x140mm that throws 1700 rpm at max.
in the back i have a 140mm that can throw 2000 RPM.
Now this is NOT ideal tho.
The ideal would be to have 3x120 @ 2200 rpm intake front
3x120mm 360 rad on top
and keep the 140mm in the back, but also maybe not run it at a very high rpm unless you do have your GPU vertical mounted, then i like to ramp up the rpm on the backexhaust too as it will take out the hot air from the gpu quicker.
I am thinking of re arranging the location of the fans in front, just to h ave the highest RPM on top and the lowest on the bottom, but at the same time oh tho its more of a job, i kinda wanna put the AIO in front with push intake
and then leave the 3 120 fans on top as exhaust but im unsure if i got space enough, i do have a massive 4080 rog strix card in my NZXT H7 flow case :)
@@Koyote2033 but front mounting my AIO now would be pretty bad idea air pressure wise. So i'm better off having it on top, exchanging it with a 360 rad :)
I sorta dont like to block off the airflow from the intake with anything, especially not a radiator, oh tho i do that in my streamer rig, which is a H510 flow case. Have a 240 in front, 240 in top and 120 at the rare end on that, and that works great, but it only yields a 3070 card so its not as air hungry as say a 4080 for instance :)
The problem with AIO's is their lifespan. Pumps usually only last 3-5 years. My Dark Rock Pro 4 will never die lol.
I do love the aesthetics of a good AIO tho, compared to an enormous air cooler.
Chinese sellers seem to have this listed explicitly as a 255w TDP from what looks like manufacturer promotional images.
When my 240mm AIO died I ran my 10900K on the Hyper 212 Black Edition cooler while I waited for the RMA. The CPU thermal throttled constantly at stock settings. It ran well enough until the replacement AIO arrived but I couldn't run it under full load for long. With the 240mm AIO I use (Be Quiet! Pure Loop 2 FX) my 10900K, in a Be Quiet! 500FX case, runs a 5.1 ghz all core overclock with Asus multicore enhancement turned on and doesn't get above 85 C at full tilt. Thanks for your review of the 500FX by the way. It is what made me take a look at the case and ultimately choose it as my case upgrade.
I love the idea of a showdown between the Amazon coolers, I'm pretty sure that there are some gems out there
Cooler shootouts would be cool. Cheap AIO's vs expensive ones. Cheap tower coolers vs expensive ones. And maybe like cheap AIO's or towers that can be made much better by upgrading to better fans?? Could easily do a long format episode on that stuff.