Yeah i saw the post earlier today, with the plastic on the side chipped it was obviously (in my opinion) not installed correctly, probably rotated when installed and forced in.
Before watching this video, it's already been confirmed as user error. People just don't want to admit their mistakes, pushing the blame on manufacturers.
He never blamed MSI or AMD. Throughout the thread he's saying he could have made the mistake and people are acting like he's not saying that. So weird.
Shit happens. Phone rings and your 10mil from the socket and dropped onto 1300-1700 fingers. 😂😂❤❤. I’ve only ever broke one cpu knock knock. I hate that socket but we all live with it. I do know at the end of the line at the manufacture one person drops a cpu gpu ram and bench test 10-12 boards every 20 mins. That socket like jay said may have been damaged before or it’s a Newegg return 😂❤
I mean that socket was pretty fucked up. He has to have forced it pretty hard. But I said the whole time that the pins were shorter somehow but then someone pointed out the damage the plastic on the socket and I knew it was user error.
@@b44dsss You could level the same accusation at the feet of every Creator on this platform, yet here you are all the same. You just don't like him. Stop confusing your emotional BS with fact and reason.
That's ridiculous. One of my first builds was an athlon XP 3200 and I bent the pins on the CPU, and then snapped said pins trying to bend back in place. Based on your logic, I should never have touched computers again. Fast-forward to today, I run a build and repair shop for PCs and other electronics.
@@mick977 Then you should know that I am right. I service vintage audio gear for a living. I have serviced audio gear for 47 years, and I assure you, there are some folks who should never touch a screwdriver. I have actually refused to repair gear that some individuals have tried to repair before me. Perhaps the person who pooched this cpu and motherboard is not one of those folks. The question is will he or she learn from that mistake. Some never learn, and they are the ones I'm talking about.
@@iiisaac1312 if you have worked in retail or in tech you'd know it's very common. I think the easiest way to explain it is that lots of normal people don't know or care about how delicate some components are. ZIF Zero Insertion Force sockets and connectors are very commonly damaged. They don't put enough warnings in things but then people won't read them.
Unless you don't learn from your mistakes, then go ahead and become a builder... Most human development has been paved by errors... And death.. And stupidity...
There lies the problem, too many PC gamers, especially Amd cpu users act entitled and don't take responsibility for their own actions. Everyone needs to man up. I busted pins on a mobo because I left the cpu out and didn't protect the pins. On the positive side I can look in to fixing the pins and resuscitating it. That is what the DIY PC community is all about, we have to be willing to learn and experiment, we don't have AI robots yet to fix pins on a mobo. Get Rekt Fooz!
They said in the thread it could have been their fault and that it took more than one attempt to get it seated.... This is all being blown out or proportion by everyone BUT the OP on reddit
@@RepublicofODLUM Had no idea. Then props to them for being honest about it. And agreed, it's stupid this can get this much attention from one incident.
messed up the pins on my 5950x and just sent it in for a rma but the way i see it, over the years most of us have spent so much money on this stuff they can afford to give us a rma every now and then
don't try to be a concert violinist and then blame on the instrument maker :D pay for service, or home insurance can cover that "accident", just pay the excess
I looked it up that is his actual handle. Maybe he was building it while watching the election results and he put in the cpu right when they called PA for Trump.
I stopped the video there, and not because of political affiliation, it could be anyone's name there and I'm still not going to take you seriously. Or believe you can build a PC without blowing it up.
That was "User Error". There actually were 2 people with the problem. But, it should not be able to happen like this... normally. It is very unusual, but yeah.... he has just blown up 850 Bucks of course he is angry :D (550 CPU and 300 MainBoard)
@@Demon09-_-yeah i bet they wish they could bow out of the offer now knowing it's obviously just a guy doing something wrong and nothing to make a video for.
I do not need Click bait titles to click on Jays videos. I am 1:13 into the video and I say user error and the user KNOWS it. He fucked up and wants to get a replacement CPU and motherboard.
User error, Hyper-Kid buys PC parts with his moms money, brags on the internet about how fast his computer will be, gets the parts, handles them like play-dough before he puts his first system together, screws it all up, fries the CPU, then rants on the internet.
One failure does not make a problem. Even if this was a legitimate manufacturer defect, there is an "expectable" failure rate for any manufactured item. It's when it goes out of the "expectable" failure rate that it becomes a real issue to look into. This instance could very well be a user error from what it looks like in the pictures. At this point this doesn't really mean anything.
Reddit, one user, user error. All of These statements are massive red flags. Guy was upset he can't build a PC, and tries the old Intel Uno Reverso Card to say his 9800X3D is burning up. Nah... This was always a nothing burger. And should get ZERO attention outside of his "I'm and idiot" Reddit Thread.
Yeah Jayz just getting more and more clickbaity with these titles. I didn't even watch it after he said one person on reddit. That is just as bad as every Major News Cite starting to source one random tweet as a problem occuring.
@@_dark168 OK, so that's 2 out of how many hundreds of thousands?? More of an issue with the socket or the MoBo than an AMD issue, which is how this is being presented, as if it parallels the Intel issues with voltage a year ago. It's just not the same, and it's more of a bad build procedure problem with user error, than AMD making a sub standard product.
@_dark168 if I had to make an educated guess, I would say it is related to bad batch of sockets with something dimensionally out of spec. MSi needs to investigate and assess the issue internally, and offer replacements if there is indeed a supply issue to be identified. The problem is, 1: this is MSi we are talking about here. And we know how much they like to admit fault. 2: even if it wasn't MSi, it would still likely be blamed on user error during installation. That they should have ensured that the socket lock was engaged properly before continuing with cooler installation. And even then, they still might blame an aftermarket cooler that has a higher than AMD clamping force. So it's not looking promising from a logic standpoint. Even if it is, largely, a clickbait nothing burger of fake outrage to attempt to make AMD look bad. Its like Intel hired the same PR firm that helped NVidia spread the AMD Driver Bug myth.
IMHO User error. Excessive force applied and the user doesn't want to admit they made a mistake with an expensive part. Instead getting 12:28 minutes of fame.
I used to work on an SMT assembly line. A socket that badly damaged would've been caught at least three times by machine inspection, and twice by visual inspection even on our shortest line, and I'm willing to bet the motherboard manufacturer has better equipment than our backwater factory. There's no way it left the line in that state unless by gross human negligence.
having looked at the comments, i believe the user reported some bent pins on the board. poor contact on power pins would mean high resistance and thus high tems on the pins, or sparking. so yea could be boardd damage, assuming its real and the user isnt lying at all.
@@goldenhate6649 are you actually joking mate this have nothing to do with overlocking. the socket is damaged meaning the cpu was not seated correctly.... CAN YOU NOT SEE THE BIG PLASTIC PIECE BROKEN? honestly where do you guys crawl out of? As someone who does extreme overclocking you dont understand how wrong you are
100% user error the plastic alignment notch is damaged as well .. he either didn't have the CPU in the socket all the way .. or he had the CPU the wrong way and then closed the hold down bracket ..somehow in that process he damaged the pins... then put the CPU in correctly and powered it up .. the bent pins shorted out and burned the CPU .
Not of party and drinking age yet? Nothing beats stumbling drunk as the night outta a club at 6 am into the next Mc Donalds to get 10 cheeseburgers. 5 for the way home and 5 to place besides your bed to grab when you wake up without having to move through the alcohol fog.
Don't we already have that with the arrow in the corner? I mean, cmon, read the directions if its that hard. I'm sure the motherboard and cpu both have a set of instructions on proper cpu installation. Tired of this apple-esque need to baby everything down just so you can reach the lowest common denominator and sell more product.
And that is why you must wiggle CPU in socket before closing the bracket, obviously CPU sat on that plastic edge and key and totally crushed it preventing contacts from developing enough pressure causing high resistance and then damage from heat, i am willing to bet that if he cleaned those contacts on CPU and put it in another motherboard it would work just fine.
Personally, I would never wiggle a CPU in a LGA socket especially. Maybe ever so slightly if it hasn't seated. I really truly feel like the wiggle thing is for am4 so that way it seats into the socket with those pins. You do you but just be careful
That was part of Jay's takeaway at the end.... I think he did this to try and prevent Steve from making a mistake lol. Steve getting scammed on this one.
There are 2, but they are both user error. The OP on reddit is mad at Jayz2Centz because he called him out for playing the victim. He then continues to argue the CPU was oriented correctly but wasn't sure if it was seated correctly. We all saw the picture bro, it wasn't seated and he continues to play the victim. We will see what they find, blah blah blah. You already know it was you bro... Gamer's Nexus just paid someone, that claims he built 12 PCs prior, for misaligning the CPU and forcing it into failure.
A singular case of this happening when all the 9800x3d cpus have been purchased and are currently OOS, I see this as user error currently but am open to being proven wrong. I worked at microcenter for a few years as a service tech, and I cannot tell you how many times I had to work on personal builds under diagnostics only to find that the CPU was installed wrong, bending the pcb of the cpu itself. Also seen people that put the cpu sticker that comes with it on the actual IHS under the thermal paste… I had to tell someone that had his “engineering friend” build it for him, that he had to replace the 5820k because it was installed upside down, they didn’t pay attention to the notches in the pcb of the cpu and the socket of the mobo. Super expensive mistake.
Whenever I hear of user error as a software engineer, I remember this quote 'Software engineering is the act of attempting to create idiot proof software while the universe creates bigger idiots, so far the universe is winning '
"Aim gun away away from face" - "Do not eat desiccant/laundry detergent pack" - "Do not eat contents of crayon box" - these are all legitimate statements. That was lost on this user.
Amazing video and really do enjoy these breakdown videos. I hope you are feeling better! Keep up these amazing break down videos and as a builder of pcs I do find your videos an amazing resource for information!
@@EarthSouthside tbf amd had their SoC drama not long ago too, just got overshadowed with intels problems which appeared couple of months later. in the end both companies got their massive F's for failing to talk with manufacturers & fail on their end not having any safeguards.
@@Vss077 The SoC drama was 1 year before the Intel shitshow hit the fans. And the SoC drama lasted about 2 weeks before it was fixed. And every wrong was done right. So no, it was not overshadowed by the Intel problems.
With a name like that, I'm surprised he collected enough donation/unemployment/homelessness money to get a PC Build together in the first place... 45-47 took its karmic revenge REAL quick.
@@thelespauldude3283 no, they don't. You can jam all sorts of things in countless creative ways and fry your parts. This is literally just Intel fan or Intel marketing coping, creating FUD out of nothing
When I saw the title of this video my heart sank because I just spent 5k on a brand new build. I was like what in the mad truckery is going on??!! I was like "Do I have to go back to Micro Center and take the Mobo, Chip and Memory back or downgrade to an older AMD CPU??" I am on the fence about Jays video. He could have made this video a different title like "How to seat a CPU properly both AMD and Intel" And then he could have shown examples from past releases of genuine manufacturer errors versus user errors. I am on the fence if this video needed to be made or not. There are people here that would have loved to have seen a new crazy build video or something along those lines. I for one would have been happier with a build video. For the record I am extremely happy with the 9800X3D and the temps and performance I am getting. This is coming from an Intel fanboy since the 1980s and building my first 386 in 1988.
There was a 2nd post later comparing images. You can clearly see he did not seat it all the way in as the notch was not aligned correctly, meaning it was pushed to the side. Mostlikely due to the broken frame pushing it away
Reddit user name.. Yeah, that's a rtd, not a hardware defect. Dude was probably too overly excited he's gonna be playing veilguard and accidentally messed up..
I upgraded recently from Intel to AMD. It took me 6 hours of a sunday afternoon to finish swapping the parts, because I was extremely diligent. After the first hour of taking it apart, the next 30 minutes was me just reading the manual and very carefully handling the CPU, mobo and cooler to make sure I dont F it up. I cant imagine how someone can buy such an expensive piece of tech and then handle it like a rock on the beach, and then complain on the internet that its not their fault.
If the reddit name does not convince you already........ Not everyone should build a computer. It's very clear what happened here and if your fail to see that your CPU isn't laying flat in the socket when closing the lid, you should not be building a pc (at least not while doing drugs). If the socket would have been damaged during manufacturing you would 100% sure be able to notice it's not flat in the socket.
great timing on this video, picked up a 9800x3d from MicroCenter on launch day but my mobo just arrived and i was thinking i'll watch jay's new video while i seat my CPU. glad that you pointed out that there should be the slightest wiggle on the cpu when its installed correctly because i was just wondering if i had done something wrong. :D
It's AMD's first LGA, which is why I avoided the first generation. Bent pins are definitely due to user error-they put it in the wrong way and bent the pins. PGA AM4 still has its advantages.
You can see damage on one of the keys (pause and compare the left one in the video at the 6:00 mark ) you can see it was messed up a little. Indicating to me that the cpu was installed improperly.
Sounds like a case of "I was told not to touch the hot stove and then go mad at the stove for getting burned." Maybe that alignment triangle was just a suggestion at this point.
@@Audiosan79 I'm assuming Steve paid more than the list price. They guy likely got _at least_ the full price of the CPU and mobo. Steve will get far more in ad money from the video
@@NJ-wb1cz a smart guy once said, assumptions is the mother of all f@@kups. Steve are paying what the CPU cost, so that the guy can get a new one. Thats it.
There are additional photos in the reddit thread showing the metal socket cover been bent at corners where you apply pressure to latch it. So excessive force was used to socket the CPU in place, resulting in damage CPU/Motherboard Socket, and Socket Cover as it was installed incorrectly. Bending that metal socket cover is indicative of user error, because it requires use of excessive force to lock it in place.
I think you are spot on this spot! It's also possible, tthe Reddit user recieved a damaged MB that had been returned, passed QC, then put back for sale. In defense of the sales RMA Dept, this damage would be easily missed.
Ah shi- here we go again. Jokes aside, If there are not more people having very similar issues than it's probably the persons own fault. Edit: Or the manufacturers misstake, like Jay mentioned in the video, allthough It's unlikely.
Click bait titles truly do suck I almost didn't click this video because I thought it was going to be a rant about a recall of CPU's on the way Instead, I got a detailed and thorough analysis of a alleged case of hardware failure that likely wasn't You're videos are awesome
Users when Zen 4 cpus were burning up chips n motherboards last year: 😐 Users when Intel Chips did the same thing this year: 😠 Users when AMD chips burn up again this year: 😐
I was just coming down here to say the exact same thing - User Error. To add is: Depending on which side of the socket was damaged, could determine the directional "Tilt" the CPU had. So based on the scorch marks being mostly inside on the right segment, it wouldn't appear that the CPU was slightly lifted on it's west side of the socket, or the North side, if that makes sense, as the angle from the tilt would mean the most point of resistance would be on the outermost sides of the CPU as it would be the region with least contact, and least resistance.
25 years ago, a friend was bench testing his new computer in his basement, with my help. Much like this, he kinda jammed the new AGP card in the best he could, powered it up, and it burnt up both the very pricey motherboard and the very pricey videocard.
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User error confirmed. The 9800X3D shifted slightly during installation. It took at least two attempts to push the LGA lever down into place.
Yeah i saw the post earlier today, with the plastic on the side chipped it was obviously (in my opinion) not installed correctly, probably rotated when installed and forced in.
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Good to know.
Not to mention the plastic on the socket was cracked by said user error.
Of course uts user error
Old saying: Nothing can be made foolproof because the ingenuity of fools is limitless.
“Ingenuity”
@@B1u35ky Good one!
Or the slightly altered version I heard growing up: "nothing is fool-proof to a talented fool"
@@tomferguson9250 ROFL
Honestly he's a Kamala supporter. What do you expect...
Before watching this video, it's already been confirmed as user error. People just don't want to admit their mistakes, pushing the blame on manufacturers.
He never blamed MSI or AMD. Throughout the thread he's saying he could have made the mistake and people are acting like he's not saying that. So weird.
Shit happens. Phone rings and your 10mil from the socket and dropped onto 1300-1700 fingers. 😂😂❤❤. I’ve only ever broke one cpu knock knock. I hate that socket but we all live with it. I do know at the end of the line at the manufacture one person drops a cpu gpu ram and bench test 10-12 boards every 20 mins. That socket like jay said may have been damaged before or it’s a Newegg return 😂❤
I mean that socket was pretty fucked up. He has to have forced it pretty hard. But I said the whole time that the pins were shorter somehow but then someone pointed out the damage the plastic on the socket and I knew it was user error.
@@rootsmagoots yeah people just want to expect the worse or most dramatic conclusion.
Well it worked out for him since Steve bought the hardware, so better keep doing that when you make a mistake. :)
a defect may exist between the keyboard and chair
oof
Pebcak
That hurt even me.
layer 8 problem
A ghost stories reference? At this time of year?
User error... Yea it looks like whoever installed that was just mashing down on the CPU pins until it kind of fit.
Pins? In a 9800x3d? Are you sure?
@@LordRalh3 i'd imagine he means the board.
Exactly. Computers are still not idiot proof.
@@LordRalh3 There are pins in the motherboard you know.
CPU pins in LGA CPU..........
This is definitely user error. Imagine spending $500 on a CPU and being this careless with it.
More like parents bought it and tried to be a spoiled brat about it.
Meow
What happend? What did he do wrong
You can even see the damage to the socket in his picture....
😢
Just bought a 9800x3d and this video title nearly gave me a heart attack... Don't do that to me Jay!
he is only on youtube to generate clicks and money. integrity is not one of jays things.
@@b44dsss You could level the same accusation at the feet of every Creator on this platform, yet here you are all the same. You just don't like him. Stop confusing your emotional BS with fact and reason.
@@b44dsssTotally not a hater, huh 😂
@@b44dsss The title is not clickbait. The video genuinely seeks to answer the question in the title.
@@myriadtechrepair1191 i mean it is... he literally says so in the video
There are some folks who should never, EVER touch tools.
That's ridiculous. One of my first builds was an athlon XP 3200 and I bent the pins on the CPU, and then snapped said pins trying to bend back in place. Based on your logic, I should never have touched computers again. Fast-forward to today, I run a build and repair shop for PCs and other electronics.
@@mick977 Then you should know that I am right. I service vintage audio gear for a living. I have serviced audio gear for 47 years, and I assure you, there are some folks who should never touch a screwdriver. I have actually refused to repair gear that some individuals have tried to repair before me.
Perhaps the person who pooched this cpu and motherboard is not one of those folks. The question is will he or she learn from that mistake. Some never learn, and they are the ones I'm talking about.
GRUG SMASH MAGIC ROCK INTO METAL BOX!
@@mick977 we all start somewhere just wait until the day you got a technician that can't not screw up though lmao.
@@iiisaac1312 if you have worked in retail or in tech you'd know it's very common. I think the easiest way to explain it is that lots of normal people don't know or care about how delicate some components are. ZIF Zero Insertion Force sockets and connectors are very commonly damaged. They don't put enough warnings in things but then people won't read them.
User error, best not take a job as a computer builder...
thats never stopped anybody afaik
Unless you don't learn from your mistakes, then go ahead and become a builder... Most human development has been paved by errors... And death.. And stupidity...
not much of a loss for a minimum wage job lol
or any job for that matter
So passive aggressive
He'll never admit he inserted it the wrong way, he wants warranty to pay for his parts.
There lies the problem, too many PC gamers, especially Amd cpu users act entitled and don't take responsibility for their own actions. Everyone needs to man up. I busted pins on a mobo because I left the cpu out and didn't protect the pins. On the positive side I can look in to fixing the pins and resuscitating it. That is what the DIY PC community is all about, we have to be willing to learn and experiment, we don't have AI robots yet to fix pins on a mobo. Get Rekt Fooz!
They said in the thread it could have been their fault and that it took more than one attempt to get it seated.... This is all being blown out or proportion by everyone BUT the OP on reddit
@@RepublicofODLUM Had no idea. Then props to them for being honest about it. And agreed, it's stupid this can get this much attention from one incident.
messed up the pins on my 5950x and just sent it in for a rma but the way i see it, over the years most of us have spent so much money on this stuff they can afford to give us a rma every now and then
don't try to be a concert violinist and then blame on the instrument maker :D pay for service, or home insurance can cover that "accident", just pay the excess
With the name TrumpPooPoosPants I don’t know if I’m going to trust him at face value lol 😂
I looked it up that is his actual handle. Maybe he was building it while watching the election results and he put in the cpu right when they called PA for Trump.
@@hectorrondon8675 Something tells me the pants in question didn't belong to Trump...
@@hectorrondon8675 it's a completely regular username for reddit. In fact, the traditional ones are way way worse.
LoL, right, who wouldn't out their complete trust in someone calling himself TrumpPooPoosPants?
I stopped the video there, and not because of political affiliation, it could be anyone's name there and I'm still not going to take you seriously. Or believe you can build a PC without blowing it up.
That was "User Error". There actually were 2 people with the problem. But, it should not be able to happen like this... normally. It is very unusual, but yeah.... he has just blown up 850 Bucks of course he is angry :D (550 CPU and 300 MainBoard)
He got lucky as I believe gamers Nexus offered to buy it from him at msrp
Mine 9800x3d idle at 30c and gaming around 45-50c. Coldest cpu i have ever had
CPU is less than 550..
@@Demon09-_-yeah i bet they wish they could bow out of the offer now knowing it's obviously just a guy doing something wrong and nothing to make a video for.
@@Arcadiezwhat cooler though
I do not need Click bait titles to click on Jays videos. I am 1:13 into the video and I say user error and the user KNOWS it. He fucked up and wants to get a replacement CPU and motherboard.
One redditor? OH MY FUCKING GOD THE WORLD IS ENDING!
User error, Hyper-Kid buys PC parts with his moms money, brags on the internet about how fast his computer will be, gets the parts, handles them like play-dough before he puts his first system together, screws it all up, fries the CPU, then rants on the internet.
All pc building video people always mention Look for triangle and match the triangle.
0:11 yep that's all I needed to know. A "Reddit user" 😅
Some random Reddit user = unreliable source
Being a redditor in current year is like being black pre civil rights
One failure does not make a problem. Even if this was a legitimate manufacturer defect, there is an "expectable" failure rate for any manufactured item. It's when it goes out of the "expectable" failure rate that it becomes a real issue to look into. This instance could very well be a user error from what it looks like in the pictures. At this point this doesn't really mean anything.
Reddit, one user, user error. All of These statements are massive red flags.
Guy was upset he can't build a PC, and tries the old Intel Uno Reverso Card to say his 9800X3D is burning up.
Nah... This was always a nothing burger. And should get ZERO attention outside of his "I'm and idiot" Reddit Thread.
There's another one in Korea, same report same motherboard.
Yeah Jayz just getting more and more clickbaity with these titles. I didn't even watch it after he said one person on reddit. That is just as bad as every Major News Cite starting to source one random tweet as a problem occuring.
@@_dark168 OK, so that's 2 out of how many hundreds of thousands?? More of an issue with the socket or the MoBo than an AMD issue, which is how this is being presented, as if it parallels the Intel issues with voltage a year ago. It's just not the same, and it's more of a bad build procedure problem with user error, than AMD making a sub standard product.
@@bigbuckoramma It's either user error or a bad batch of MSI boards i know that. I got a 9800x3d no issues here
@_dark168 if I had to make an educated guess, I would say it is related to bad batch of sockets with something dimensionally out of spec. MSi needs to investigate and assess the issue internally, and offer replacements if there is indeed a supply issue to be identified.
The problem is, 1: this is MSi we are talking about here. And we know how much they like to admit fault. 2: even if it wasn't MSi, it would still likely be blamed on user error during installation. That they should have ensured that the socket lock was engaged properly before continuing with cooler installation. And even then, they still might blame an aftermarket cooler that has a higher than AMD clamping force.
So it's not looking promising from a logic standpoint. Even if it is, largely, a clickbait nothing burger of fake outrage to attempt to make AMD look bad.
Its like Intel hired the same PR firm that helped NVidia spread the AMD Driver Bug myth.
IMHO User error. Excessive force applied and the user doesn't want to admit they made a mistake with an expensive part. Instead getting 12:28 minutes of fame.
And getting it paid for by Steve.
looks like it's been verified that it WAS user error
*shame
probably a lifelong Intel fanboy trying to let AMD fans down, but HW enthusiasts will figure out the real reason anyway
I used to work on an SMT assembly line. A socket that badly damaged would've been caught at least three times by machine inspection, and twice by visual inspection even on our shortest line, and I'm willing to bet the motherboard manufacturer has better equipment than our backwater factory. There's no way it left the line in that state unless by gross human negligence.
Clearly Looks user created , or that MB came broken that socket has clear damage on it
Given the temps everyone has been reporting, 100% this was someone trying to overclock.
having looked at the comments, i believe the user reported some bent pins on the board.
poor contact on power pins would mean high resistance and thus high tems on the pins, or sparking. so yea could be boardd damage, assuming its real and the user isnt lying at all.
Pins probably partially melted so they appear "damaged".
@@goldenhate6649 are you actually joking mate this have nothing to do with overlocking. the socket is damaged meaning the cpu was not seated correctly.... CAN YOU NOT SEE THE BIG PLASTIC PIECE BROKEN? honestly where do you guys crawl out of? As someone who does extreme overclocking you dont understand how wrong you are
@@goldenhate6649 why does this comment have upvotes lmao this community is doomed
Until I hear a perfectly reasonable explanation why those edges were torn like that, it’s user error.
100% user error the plastic alignment notch is damaged as well .. he either didn't have the CPU in the socket all the way .. or he had the CPU the wrong way and then closed the hold down bracket ..somehow in that process he damaged the pins... then put the CPU in correctly and powered it up .. the bent pins shorted out and burned the CPU .
/thread
Wait you can have a burger for breakfast?!?!
That's the real news here!
You can ice cream for breakfast if you want. Not highly recommended, but you can.
I used to go to Carl Jr's for breakfast when I worked down the street from one back in Cali.
You can't?!
Not of party and drinking age yet? Nothing beats stumbling drunk as the night outta a club at 6 am into the next Mc Donalds to get 10 cheeseburgers. 5 for the way home and 5 to place besides your bed to grab when you wake up without having to move through the alcohol fog.
personaly i limit it to CheeseBurgers, but yes you totally can
One user and the issue is more likely user error than anything else. I wouldn't be worried about it, mine is running right now with no issues.
Next-gen CPU feature: Massive "This Way Up" with a Big Arrow
they are not supoused to be installed by brainless people
"do not install this 2.5" sata drive in the CPU socket"
Don't we already have that with the arrow in the corner?
I mean, cmon, read the directions if its that hard. I'm sure the motherboard and cpu both have a set of instructions on proper cpu installation. Tired of this apple-esque need to baby everything down just so you can reach the lowest common denominator and sell more product.
ID10T error?
User name of the redditor checkout.
Must've been the UserBenchmark owner...
"SEE, AMD has problems too...oh, the hydraulic press in the background ? Ignore that !"
True!
haha.
Userbenchmark is Uselsee anyway... not having a DX12 Test anyway XD
User error for sure !!!!!!!!!
Able to be overclocked. People immediately start destroying them. Sounds about right.
It's intel double agent
This Guy 😂 😂 😂 @@disconductorder
with a user name like that i dont even have to hear any more to know it was user error
And that is why you must wiggle CPU in socket before closing the bracket, obviously CPU sat on that plastic edge and key and totally crushed it preventing contacts from developing
enough pressure causing high resistance and then damage from heat, i am willing to bet that if he cleaned those contacts on CPU and put it in another motherboard it would work just fine.
Personally, I would never wiggle a CPU in a LGA socket especially. Maybe ever so slightly if it hasn't seated. I really truly feel like the wiggle thing is for am4 so that way it seats into the socket with those pins. You do you but just be careful
That user also thinks the economy is good
No way the person admits this anyway. That just means they can't get another
You could put "Don't click here" and I'd still probably watch to see what trouble you guys are causing lol.
when I first saw this I was like "oh great these motherboard brands didn't learn their lesson from the 7800X3D issue"
Exactly bro
Haha. Thanks for @10:25 😂 Stupid hating...
1 user does not a "story" make
it seems 1 user can make a viral story then a few hours later the story if false will be debuked and whoever the user is shamed.
That was part of Jay's takeaway at the end.... I think he did this to try and prevent Steve from making a mistake lol. Steve getting scammed on this one.
Thanks Yoda.
There are 2, but they are both user error.
The OP on reddit is mad at Jayz2Centz because he called him out for playing the victim. He then continues to argue the CPU was oriented correctly but wasn't sure if it was seated correctly. We all saw the picture bro, it wasn't seated and he continues to play the victim. We will see what they find, blah blah blah. You already know it was you bro...
Gamer's Nexus just paid someone, that claims he built 12 PCs prior, for misaligning the CPU and forcing it into failure.
A singular case of this happening when all the 9800x3d cpus have been purchased and are currently OOS, I see this as user error currently but am open to being proven wrong.
I worked at microcenter for a few years as a service tech, and I cannot tell you how many times I had to work on personal builds under diagnostics only to find that the CPU was installed wrong, bending the pcb of the cpu itself. Also seen people that put the cpu sticker that comes with it on the actual IHS under the thermal paste…
I had to tell someone that had his “engineering friend” build it for him, that he had to replace the 5820k because it was installed upside down, they didn’t pay attention to the notches in the pcb of the cpu and the socket of the mobo. Super expensive mistake.
That cpu was installed wrong, and turned on, and blew up. 100% user error!
One failure doesn’t indicate a problem to me
hahah fanboy
@@quequeissominhagenteCope harder Inteloven 'tistic soy🤡
But a Reddit user said so. Checkmate. 😛
But a clickbait title gives more money. Greed always wins.
Esp. coming from Reddit, hahaha. So obviously user fault. Glad Jay made that clear.
Whenever I hear of user error as a software engineer, I remember this quote
'Software engineering is the act of attempting to create idiot proof software while the universe creates bigger idiots, so far the universe is winning '
"Aim gun away away from face" - "Do not eat desiccant/laundry detergent pack" - "Do not eat contents of crayon box" - these are all legitimate statements. That was lost on this user.
"Do not make stupid user names on the internet"
Amazing video and really do enjoy these breakdown videos. I hope you are feeling better! Keep up these amazing break down videos and as a builder of pcs I do find your videos an amazing resource for information!
So many outlets talking about a smoking gun \ user error..... stop the drama, user fudged his install.
100 percent. Intel fans tryin to blame amd because they are holding onto intels massive F 😂❤. Long live Red Amd.
@@EarthSouthside tbf amd had their SoC drama not long ago too, just got overshadowed with intels problems which appeared couple of months later. in the end both companies got their massive F's for failing to talk with manufacturers & fail on their end not having any safeguards.
@@Vss077 The SoC drama was 1 year before the Intel shitshow hit the fans. And the SoC drama lasted about 2 weeks before it was fixed. And every wrong was done right. So no, it was not overshadowed by the Intel problems.
With a name like that, I'm surprised he collected enough donation/unemployment/homelessness money to get a PC Build together in the first place... 45-47 took its karmic revenge REAL quick.
The same Redditors who can't figure out 12vHP connectors?
I watched a youtuber blaming a store for selling the wrong ram. In fact, he couldn't read ram label correctly and made an apology video.
Figures that a redditor with TDS wouldn't know the sockets orientation. "It's fluid" 😂😂😂
It took 2 seconds to figure out he fooked it up himself, why is this getting so much attention?
Because people still need to be aware of it
Content
Makes good clickbait
@@thelespauldude3283 no, they don't. You can jam all sorts of things in countless creative ways and fry your parts.
This is literally just Intel fan or Intel marketing coping, creating FUD out of nothing
Good fable to teach people to be extra cautious when installing a cpu though - needs coverage of like "this is what happens if you force your cpu in"
Honestly your videos could have the title "New vid watch yo!" And I would still watch it
Whos' the guy on Reddit?
Stefan from The Verge?
oooof
What is he doing these days?
@@N0N0111 I hope not building PCs 🤣
@@Awaken2067833758 i know LTT had him on after the verge video and got him to build a pc with guidance.
I have a feeling that the guy named "TrumpPooPoosPants" probably isn't the most trustworthy source
The left key seems to also be damaged.
You mean the one we literally circled in the video?
@@JayztwocentsYou can’t expect that commenters watch the full video, come on.
When I saw the title of this video my heart sank because I just spent 5k on a brand new build. I was like what in the mad truckery is going on??!! I was like "Do I have to go back to Micro Center and take the Mobo, Chip and Memory back or downgrade to an older AMD CPU??" I am on the fence about Jays video. He could have made this video a different title like "How to seat a CPU properly both AMD and Intel" And then he could have shown examples from past releases of genuine manufacturer errors versus user errors. I am on the fence if this video needed to be made or not. There are people here that would have loved to have seen a new crazy build video or something along those lines. I for one would have been happier with a build video. For the record I am extremely happy with the 9800X3D and the temps and performance I am getting. This is coming from an Intel fanboy since the 1980s and building my first 386 in 1988.
He repeatedly said that it could be his fault so why are you saying he's playing the victim?
Ok so why make the post then ?! If he fu©ked up why be surprised it burnt up ?
Brah, he needs to justify the clickbait title.
There was a 2nd post later comparing images. You can clearly see he did not seat it all the way in as the notch was not aligned correctly, meaning it was pushed to the side. Mostlikely due to the broken frame pushing it away
I don't need clickbait to watch a JTC video! Thanks again!!!!
Reddit user name.. Yeah, that's a rtd, not a hardware defect.
Dude was probably too overly excited he's gonna be playing veilguard and accidentally messed up..
How did you say “we need the redditor to be honest” with a straight face? 😂
You couldn't install a slot CPU the wrong way round, maybe we need to go back 25 years
I upgraded recently from Intel to AMD. It took me 6 hours of a sunday afternoon to finish swapping the parts, because I was extremely diligent. After the first hour of taking it apart, the next 30 minutes was me just reading the manual and very carefully handling the CPU, mobo and cooler to make sure I dont F it up.
I cant imagine how someone can buy such an expensive piece of tech and then handle it like a rock on the beach, and then complain on the internet that its not their fault.
UH OH Clickbait title is clickbait! BOOOOOOO !!! Stop it Jay, you are better than that.
If the reddit name does not convince you already........ Not everyone should build a computer. It's very clear what happened here and if your fail to see that your CPU isn't laying flat in the socket when closing the lid, you should not be building a pc (at least not while doing drugs).
If the socket would have been damaged during manufacturing you would 100% sure be able to notice it's not flat in the socket.
Well, if Reddit says so..
great timing on this video, picked up a 9800x3d from MicroCenter on launch day but my mobo just arrived and i was thinking i'll watch jay's new video while i seat my CPU. glad that you pointed out that there should be the slightest wiggle on the cpu when its installed correctly because i was just wondering if i had done something wrong. :D
It's AMD's first LGA, which is why I avoided the first generation. Bent pins are definitely due to user error-they put it in the wrong way and bent the pins. PGA AM4 still has its advantages.
Technically their second LGA release/refresh. Overall it's user error.
You can see damage on one of the keys (pause and compare the left one in the video at the 6:00 mark ) you can see it was messed up a little. Indicating to me that the cpu was installed improperly.
That guy should've bought a console.
And put power cord intro ethernet
I bet it's user error. Just look at his name. Someone who makes politics his identity is usually not the brightest candle on the cake.
Damn still love AMD tho.
Thank you Jay!!! I appreciate you and your teams work.
Sounds like a case of "I was told not to touch the hot stove and then go mad at the stove for getting burned." Maybe that alignment triangle was just a suggestion at this point.
its like Geneva suggestion. too small to notice.
2 minutes in I can see that he damaged the pins during installation lol
It an expensive mistake, he's probably not going to admit it.
Bingo. And the plan worked if Steve buys this CPU off of him
@@NJ-wb1cz Steve will humilate him. Good. xD
@@NJ-wb1cz He still need a new motherbord tho.
@@Audiosan79 I'm assuming Steve paid more than the list price. They guy likely got _at least_ the full price of the CPU and mobo. Steve will get far more in ad money from the video
@@NJ-wb1cz a smart guy once said, assumptions is the mother of all f@@kups. Steve are paying what the CPU cost, so that the guy can get a new one. Thats it.
*The real question is:* _"If "One Redditor" makes a sound... does their mom hear it?"_
"one reddit user says yes" 🤣
There are additional photos in the reddit thread showing the metal socket cover been bent at corners where you apply pressure to latch it. So excessive force was used to socket the CPU in place, resulting in damage CPU/Motherboard Socket, and Socket Cover as it was installed incorrectly. Bending that metal socket cover is indicative of user error, because it requires use of excessive force to lock it in place.
One jealous intel fanboy did it
I think you are spot on this spot! It's also possible, tthe Reddit user recieved a damaged MB that had been returned, passed QC, then put back for sale. In defense of the sales RMA Dept, this damage would be easily missed.
User error. One out of how many hundreds of thousands of CPUs out there.
Maybe this THE guy behind UserBenchmark 😂😂😂
10:28 intel femboys lol
Yep! The broken plastic of the socket was the very first thing my eyes and senses zoomed into in those pictures at the start of the video.
Clickbait sensational titles arent your fault?
They absolutely are. You always have a choice.
"I had a burger for breakfast" Oh yeah, he knows what's up.
Also the key nubs were damaged.
Would be hilarious if it's the userbenchmarks guy.
I watch your content because it’s fun and impartial not because you have clickbait in the titles. Please stay away from that nonsense in the future.
There are more images of this, and 1 image shows the retention bracket has a buckle/bend. (Where AMD Ryzen is laser etched)
Jay said "1 reddit user says so" and I already knew this was a non issue.
it was an ID-10T error...i wish i was the one who came up with that.
Ah shi- here we go again.
Jokes aside, If there are not more people having very similar issues than it's probably the persons own fault.
Edit: Or the manufacturers misstake, like Jay mentioned in the video, allthough It's unlikely.
looked at the pic for 2 seconds and I thought the same thing. he fucked up and then cooked his CPU
1000% said idiot put CPU in the wrong way and proceeded to crush the plastic of the socket after forcing the ILM closed ontop of the CPU.
0:04 "Redditor user?" Is that someone who uses redditors? 😂😂
Dumb video. It's a user error.
Click bait titles truly do suck
I almost didn't click this video because I thought it was going to be a rant about a recall of CPU's on the way
Instead, I got a detailed and thorough analysis of a alleged case of hardware failure that likely wasn't
You're videos are awesome
Users when Zen 4 cpus were burning up chips n motherboards last year: 😐 Users when Intel Chips did the same thing this year: 😠 Users when AMD chips burn up again this year: 😐
Did you watch the video?
On top of what you said, if you watch the image, that board also has a bunch of bent pins on the left side, which also fits with user error.
That kids mom is probably pissed the warranty is voided.
I was just coming down here to say the exact same thing - User Error. To add is: Depending on which side of the socket was damaged, could determine the directional "Tilt" the CPU had. So based on the scorch marks being mostly inside on the right segment, it wouldn't appear that the CPU was slightly lifted on it's west side of the socket, or the North side, if that makes sense, as the angle from the tilt would mean the most point of resistance would be on the outermost sides of the CPU as it would be the region with least contact, and least resistance.
Pins on CPUs, how I miss you. No bending CPUs, no burned sockets, no damaged sockets.
RIP
25 years ago, a friend was bench testing his new computer in his basement, with my help. Much like this, he kinda jammed the new AGP card in the best he could, powered it up, and it burnt up both the very pricey motherboard and the very pricey videocard.