This is by far the most valuable calisthenics channel ever.... With my 40 years of experience of resistance training/calisthenics, I can easily tell all calisthenics community, you are on the right place....
Unfortunately, it's not the most valuable channel. As you said, you have 40 years of experience, and like the content creator, you are probably too advanced to remember how to teach a beginner. Content that is too advanced is useless for 80% of viewers. Fundamentals are important, yet this channel always overlooks the most basic things. There are new channels where they show the complete progression, alternative exercises, activated muscles, from complete beginner to master level. This channel is only useful once you are already on your way to a very advanced level, and you want to refine your technique / check what perfect form looks like, etc.
In your program, complete calisthenics, there are almost all classic calisthenics skills, and I love it. Because other people just sell different programs for each skills. In complete calistenics you have: handstand, hspu, skin the cat, frontlever, backlever, L-sit, planche, v-sit, and many more, in both dinamic and static versions... it's super complete But my question is, why there is not there included the Muscle Up? It gets my angry (joking, not really angry) because the muscle up it is: 1. the most iconic calisthenics skills, the most classical, the most famous, the one that comes to mind when you said calisthenics (IMO) 2. not so difficult, so if it were in the program, I would have already achieved Anyways, I was just saying. I love you guys, love your programs You're the absolute best Love all your content Always waiting for your news updates! Why not a complete calisthenics 2.0 where you add to the previus: -muscle up -dragon pistol squat -sissy squat -nordic curl -reverse nordic curl Or just the muscle up! Salutations, love and peace! :)
Muscle Ups are very specififc and have nearly no carry over effect for other exercises. Including the Muscle Ups into one comprehensive program is hard without sacrifising any other skills. Most of the skills of the program are build on each other: You got progressions for bent arm & straight as strength and progressions for bilateral and unilateral movements. The muscle up is a bit unique because it's a "one trick pony". It's all about that explosive pull and the right movement curve. So you can't really include it wothout replacing some other (essential skills) of the program...(doing too many different skills at once slows down your progress). Here is my tip: If you wanna learn the muscle up and you're at least level 3 or above, just pratice it right after the warm up and replace the bent arm pull exercises for it. It's not optimal for leanring the harder pull up skills like Archer & One Arm Pull Ups but you can do it like that until you learn it. You can check our muscle up tutorial right here: th-cam.com/video/89v8LYbgg5M/w-d-xo.html
@@calimove and as always, you're the best guys! It's very useful and practical advice to how to incorporated to my worktouts I really appreciated! Love u!
headbangers explanation 10/10 i thought it was impossible to give a better content but this content is even better that the previous. clutch, rally nice and accurate. Headbanger... as you said, triceps and lattissimus, why? because the gravity (which is the force you are fighting against) is vertical, and the main force we doing in that position is the shoulder extension, which is made by lattissimus and triceps mainly, when we flex and extended the elbow we are not going against gravity, we are just making shorter the leverage, so the only thing we do when flexing the elbow is relief a bit our triceps cause the leverage is way shorter, and when we extend the elbow, we make the triceps and latissimus work harder cause the leverage is longer. Thanks for pointing this out. most ppl who think they are pros in calisthenics, they arent
For many reasons. These guys are not big in any way and with a t-shirt on they look like any other guy. So if you are insecure about looking normal, then you can be tempted. Also some dont care to train for several years and have a perfect diet in order to look like this, when it can be done in less then 6mo on gear and where you can eat ANYTHING you like. There are people who wants shortcut everywhere in life and dont care about the consequences unfortunately.
Bro, you're convincing me to buy your program, even I live in Brazil and it's not gonna be cheap to convert the price of it into our currency; but I'm more and more assured that it will be the one and only program I'll need from now on.
You can do many advance skills of calisthenics like planche , front lever back lever , you should upload an video on them , like how to front lever , back lever , planche , etc , so that people can learn them easily
I honestly didn’t know the names for ice cream maker and head banger , although I recently did them, but it’s good to know that there are better options available, thanks big bro in calisthenics. 👊
I'm Saving up to buy your program guys !! But it's going to be a long run because I'm still a student from Egypt, and the financials are not that great but really lookng forward to purchase it 😅❤.
i bought there calisthencis course from level 1-5 and the mobility training. i complete one level of the calisthencis programm and one level of the mobility programm ^^
the last part im not with your speech, since I train front lever touch (bent arms) my front lever power increased like a rocket... I mean, I was during a lot of month only training front lever focusing on iso holds with extended elbow, and doing front lever shoulder extension, and adv tuck front pull ups, and of course I noticed that my front lever got better but lastly I am only focusing on iso hold front touch and adv tuck front pull ups, and I think I have never been that strong in front lever position. The first part of video was perfect the second one.... could had been done so much better, but still ty for the video. Edit... well not that bad, cause you were talking about only the planche and only about to improve your planche iso hold, listening that I'm still agree... so much smart to train holds and shoulder flexion
Yeah but Frontlever Touch is different than Ice Cream Makers, In the Ice Cream Maker you just switch between a Pull Up Hold and a Frontlever Hold. When you do the Frontlever Touch you're still doing a isometric hold in the Frontlever Position (only with bent arms).
I hurt my shoulder doing bar dips and then realized that I wasn't strong enough to do them. Then I figured I could only try an exercise if I felt like being able to complete it with the proper effort
It is funny that i used to do all these exercises mentioned in video a long time ago, I realized how ineffective and i switched to the foundation moves
I am following from 2018 it worked for me, i reduced my wait 40kg now my perfect weight is 63kg, thanks to calisthenics every teachers, ❤ I am from india
I like the video i love weights and calisthenics but for me isnt necessary learn muscle ups headbanger chin ups or clean and jerk snatches ... i mean i do basics calisthenics and weights 5x5 ...i love after one month break comeback to workout do burpees untill be ready to lift again weights
4:28 I would think calisthenics folks care more about planche pushup performance than static planche performance and really only train static to facilitate the planche pushups. After all, we're not gymnasts. 😅
Love the programs but perhaps my phone is just poor but using the sit on the phone is near impossible. Hands down App integration.. I'd pay extra for that..
@@uznaz1783 wts why a man wants to have that if we have progressions to do at least victorian cross that is better than waste your time holding other hand that probably doesn't have calluses and no idea of how to do 2 pull ups in a row. -memes
Bro i really need your help tell an intense workout plan for 1 month or 2 month for different type of skinny fat guys who have fat legs and but. Fat stomach and little fat chest and skinny hands and really week from home and yeah preventing that extra skin problem you know what im saying lot of guys do intemse workout they loose fat but they see they have that extra ugly skin where they didn't loose they have to fix with surgery i don't want that .
Similar as with the Planche Push Ups....They are good for getting better as Frontlever Pull Ups but not optimal for improving the Straight Arm Frontlever Hold.
Planche push up is overrated? Damn, i just learn this some days ago lol. Oke i will stop learn planche push up, and stay to tuck planch hold i think is better
For combat sport you need to have a complete body of muscles thats being worked out. So ALL calisthenics are needed. Then you go do the actual combat to get good at combat. Its two different things that compliment each other. But you just might want to aim for MUCH higher reps in order to build endurance, rather then focusing on getting as big muscles as possible. And then aim to do EVERY rep explosively.
Youre utterly wrong about the planche pushup! I went from not been able to hold a tucked planche for more than 1 second to being able to hold advanced tucked planche comfortably without even doing holds nor planche leans. I achieved this with pushups only. Specifically started with normal pushups, then decline, then dips, then tucked dips, then tucked planche pushups, then I was able to hold adv tucked planche.
Ok let me get this straight: You only did tucked planche push ups etc. but not focused straight arm training to compare both with each other? So how did you know that one works better or not if you only tried one of them? Look we've never said that planche push ups are bad and useless. The only point we made is: straight arm training > bent arm training (when leaning the planche as quick as possible). So yes, you will make planche progress with planche push ups, but not as effective as when you focus on straight arm movements for most of the time.
Are you sure that keeping your arms in front of your body during pull-ups targets the biceps more effectively than regular underhand grip pull-ups? It looks here as if the normal pull-up allowed you to close your elbow more, i. e. moves your biceps through a wider range of motion. And is it not so that when keeping the elbows in front of the body you assume a hunched over position when pulling yourself up, which compromises the structural integrity of your shoulder and thus creates a much more technical demand for the pull-up than just loading the biceps more?
You have a point, but from what I know, putting the arms infront of you more, puts work away from the back and into the forearms and biceps. Yes, technically pulling your elbows back leads to "more range of motion", for your biceps, but that comes at the cost of your biceps losing tension the more you come to the full top of the movement (Chin over bar, chest over bar). In that top, the main contributor of force now becomes the back. Thus, putting your elbows more infront of you, and performing a lesser range of motion, as long as the biceps are sufficiently stretched and under tension enough to trigger growth, it will grow. You can further exacerbate this by performing the movement with a supinated grip. Imagine the standard curl, there is massive tension in the middle of the movement but at the top, the working muscle (bicep) is relaxed. It's the same with chin-ups and pullups. Overall, as far as I know with biomechanics, and as a calisthenics enthusiast, i do agree with the video that putting your arms infront and doing a "half-rep" motion does contribute to better bicep growth, not to say that full range of motion is bad nooo sir. But it just comes down to where it starts, where it goes, and where it ends, and if it's done in a controlled manner or not. If you ask me, I'd stick to a normal chinup and some ring curls. Because, doing a movement such as the pull up with arms in front feels unnatural for me. Thank you for listening.
@@karlneard8088 Well, it's probably not a big difference either way (though, then they shouldn't need to recommend one over the other). And sure, range of motion alone is not the whole story; it has to be controlled motion, range of tension. However, I don't think using one muscle necessarily takes away from others. Your body moves using chains of muscles and tension spreads throughout such a chain: tensing part of it really hard actually makes it _easier_ to create more tension other parts. Think about it: a crucial component to produce more force (or any at all) is stability, and this is provided by the muscles around the one with which you want to produce more force. Hunching over during a pull-up makes it a lot harder to maintain stability in your shoulders, and while it's conceivable that your biceps may work almost on its own, pulling up your body like a wet sack, I doubt this is recommendable - even if it did work the biceps a bit more than normal underhand pull-ups.
@@xCorvus7xI get where you're coming from. Stability is a crucial factor for an exercise to be effective. And assuming a hunch back position can lead to the decrease of that critical component. However, stability can be reinforced by other muscles of the body. Like you said, the body doesn't move individual parts around, it works as an entire unit to get something done. When something from a part of the chain gets tensed up, the rest of the chain tenses up as well. And your body is aware when an exercise calls for more demand on your stabilizer muscles (shoulders). So it calls upon other more capable stabilizer muscles, like the abdominals and even the chest to some degree (i think) as it is also part of the larger chain (anterior-wise) . And, not to say that your shoulders become obsolete as the stabilizers, it really depends on an individual's strength level. Protracting the shoulders puts it in a disadvantageous position, but depressing it can help keep it firm and even protect it. Like i said, it comes down to how conditioned your shoulders are to resisting something isometrically. If a person wants a good all-rounder but biases the biceps a little bit more, yes, the arms in front variation is not recommended. Just stick to chin ups or pull ups. As they are still effective bicep workers. But, if a person wants to specifically drastically one up the bicep above all the others, then the arms in front variation suddenly looks like a good option for that purpose. However, if they wish to choose that exercise, they have to account for the increased demand for stabilization of that exercise. And if their shoulders are lacking a little bit, there will be a good chance of nasty DOMS or worse, injury.
@@karlneard8088 You have a point about conditioning and being able to create stability with more different muscles overall, allowing you to be stable in more different positions (in particular positions where other people may struggle to stabilise their joints). This is a worthwhile pursuit but I don't just mean that tension from the stabilising muscles flows over into the biceps: rather, this is true for all muscles involved a given movement. In our example, tension throughout the whole pull chain will allow more muscle tension in any given link and thus more force production both in every link as well as overall. Tension in the latissimus will allow you to tense your biceps more. This isn't limited to the lats but applies to all muscles up or down the chain of any given muscle involved in a given movement (skeletal muscles _are_ more of a web around the body, not disjoint chains; only in that web certain chains of muscles may be discerned that work during certain movements). Though, if you want to work the biceps in a way that uses other muscles than the lats, you'd have to do some thing else than pull-ups. On the other hand, if you're doing pull-ups, it may be counterproductive for your biceps development to neglect the tension in your lats (which actively works against keeping your arms in front of you).
Obviously the individual who named those ice cream makers has never worked at a scoop shop for Ben & Jerry's in the factory in Waterbury when it was first built in the spiral hardener sent bulk 2 1/2 gallon or bigger containers at 5° - Celsius. Basically a fast track into carpal tunnel
This is by far the most valuable calisthenics channel ever.... With my 40 years of experience of resistance training/calisthenics, I can easily tell all calisthenics community, you are on the right place....
I usually combine CaliMove + Athlean-X for 2 perspectives. (+ a few others that speak in my native language)
@@Ricardo__Milos and fitness faq
Nah mate. At @fitnessfaqs clear.
PS This channel is great as well but that guy is simply the best.
Unfortunately, it's not the most valuable channel. As you said, you have 40 years of experience, and like the content creator, you are probably too advanced to remember how to teach a beginner.
Content that is too advanced is useless for 80% of viewers. Fundamentals are important, yet this channel always overlooks the most basic things.
There are new channels where they show the complete progression, alternative exercises, activated muscles, from complete beginner to master level.
This channel is only useful once you are already on your way to a very advanced level, and you want to refine your technique / check what perfect form looks like, etc.
@@lilhaxxor CaliMove is perfectly suited for beginners.
5:07 that girl messing with alex's rings in the bg lmao😭😭 so relatable as i also trained near kids' playground
😂😂
Lol
Seeing Alex without the iconic blue shorts was a glitch in the software
Why this bald guy always wear blue shorts and why he doesn't grow hair muscle in his head by doing calisthenics 😂😂
I love when Calisthenicmovement comes out with a video that’s not a short
2:17 nah, just crazy, this is your best video, no jokes, the most accurate technically talking. thanks saitama
In your program, complete calisthenics, there are almost all classic calisthenics skills, and I love it. Because other people just sell different programs for each skills.
In complete calistenics you have: handstand, hspu, skin the cat, frontlever, backlever, L-sit, planche, v-sit, and many more, in both dinamic and static versions... it's super complete
But my question is, why there is not there included the Muscle Up?
It gets my angry (joking, not really angry) because the muscle up it is:
1. the most iconic calisthenics skills, the most classical, the most famous, the one that comes to mind when you said calisthenics (IMO)
2. not so difficult, so if it were in the program, I would have already achieved
Anyways, I was just saying.
I love you guys, love your programs
You're the absolute best
Love all your content
Always waiting for your news updates!
Why not a complete calisthenics 2.0 where you add to the previus:
-muscle up
-dragon pistol squat
-sissy squat
-nordic curl
-reverse nordic curl
Or just the muscle up!
Salutations, love and peace! :)
Muscle Ups are very specififc and have nearly no carry over effect for other exercises. Including the Muscle Ups into one comprehensive program is hard without sacrifising any other skills.
Most of the skills of the program are build on each other: You got progressions for bent arm & straight as strength and progressions for bilateral and unilateral movements. The muscle up is a bit unique because it's a "one trick pony". It's all about that explosive pull and the right movement curve. So you can't really include it wothout replacing some other (essential skills) of the program...(doing too many different skills at once slows down your progress).
Here is my tip: If you wanna learn the muscle up and you're at least level 3 or above, just pratice it right after the warm up and replace the bent arm pull exercises for it. It's not optimal for leanring the harder pull up skills like Archer & One Arm Pull Ups but you can do it like that until you learn it.
You can check our muscle up tutorial right here: th-cam.com/video/89v8LYbgg5M/w-d-xo.html
@@calimove and as always, you're the best guys!
It's very useful and practical advice to how to incorporated to my worktouts
I really appreciated!
Love u!
headbangers explanation 10/10 i thought it was impossible to give a better content but this content is even better that the previous. clutch, rally nice and accurate.
Headbanger... as you said, triceps and lattissimus, why?
because the gravity (which is the force you are fighting against) is vertical, and the main force we doing in that position is the shoulder extension, which is made by lattissimus and triceps mainly, when we flex and extended the elbow we are not going against gravity, we are just making shorter the leverage, so the only thing we do when flexing the elbow is relief a bit our triceps cause the leverage is way shorter, and when we extend the elbow, we make the triceps and latissimus work harder cause the leverage is longer.
Thanks for pointing this out. most ppl who think they are pros in calisthenics, they arent
Seeing this physique, I can not understand why people choose to use steroids...
Maybe they use, just not the enough to get big, but to gain massive strength.
@@valdeirrodrigues5666those muscles are easily attainable within 5 years of training. If you do it correctly
Fitness community standards are insane these days.
For many reasons.
These guys are not big in any way and with a t-shirt on they look like any other guy. So if you are insecure about looking normal, then you can be tempted.
Also some dont care to train for several years and have a perfect diet in order to look like this, when it can be done in less then 6mo on gear and where you can eat ANYTHING you like.
There are people who wants shortcut everywhere in life and dont care about the consequences unfortunately.
Great physiques but not comparable to the sheer size possible on gear. I agree, these physiques are incredible
Bro, you're convincing me to buy your program, even I live in Brazil and it's not gonna be cheap to convert the price of it into our currency; but I'm more and more assured that it will be the one and only program I'll need from now on.
Thank GOD!!! a pro finally said the truth about neg muscle ups. Starting with that convinced me this video was gonna be fire 🔥
You can do many advance skills of calisthenics like planche , front lever back lever , you should upload an video on them , like how to front lever , back lever , planche , etc , so that people can learn them easily
Yes , you are right
Great video and great informationen. Maybe you can do a video about the false grip and how to train it?
this video should be shared to all calisthenics trainer... tired of trainers that have no clue. thanks for this video
Thanks for the info! You guys rock. 👍
PLease do another video like this one please, there are many more exercises you can cover I am sure, and the explanations are unbelievable well done
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Don't forget to wear blue shorts 🩳
Suggest Alex to grow some hair by doing calisthenics 😂😂
I honestly didn’t know the names for ice cream maker and head banger , although I recently did them, but it’s good to know that there are better options available, thanks big bro in calisthenics. 👊
Good to see Sven back
I do compound only instead trying to isolate them. If I want to isolated then better grab a dumbell because it’s more efficient.
I'm Saving up to buy your program guys !!
But it's going to be a long run because I'm still a student from Egypt, and the financials are not that great but really lookng forward to purchase it 😅❤.
Calisthenics is cool 🔥
Que bravazoo!!...👍👍👍👍
i bought there calisthencis course from level 1-5 and the mobility training.
i complete one level of the calisthencis programm and one level of the mobility programm ^^
thank you❤❤
Bro got a beard now thats crazy 🔥
What do you mean he always had a beard
@@hisanuswat4359 he was mostly clean now he changed his style
the last part im not with your speech, since I train front lever touch (bent arms) my front lever power increased like a rocket...
I mean, I was during a lot of month only training front lever focusing on iso holds with extended elbow, and doing front lever shoulder extension, and adv tuck front pull ups, and of course I noticed that my front lever got better but lastly I am only focusing on iso hold front touch and adv tuck front pull ups, and I think I have never been that strong in front lever position.
The first part of video was perfect the second one.... could had been done so much better, but still ty for the video.
Edit... well not that bad, cause you were talking about only the planche and only about to improve your planche iso hold, listening that I'm still agree... so much smart to train holds and shoulder flexion
Yeah but Frontlever Touch is different than Ice Cream Makers, In the Ice Cream Maker you just switch between a Pull Up Hold and a Frontlever Hold. When you do the Frontlever Touch you're still doing a isometric hold in the Frontlever Position (only with bent arms).
I hurt my shoulder doing bar dips and then realized that I wasn't strong enough to do them. Then I figured I could only try an exercise if I felt like being able to complete it with the proper effort
Could you do a video on hip and leg mobility?
It is funny that i used to do all these exercises mentioned in video a long time ago, I realized how ineffective and i switched to the foundation moves
Good tips thanks
Make A Video On One Leg squats ❤🎉
i think he already have in this channel, look for it, not 100% sure, but worth to give a try
Díky.
negative muscle up explanation 10/10
I am following from 2018 it worked for me, i reduced my wait 40kg now my perfect weight is 63kg, thanks to calisthenics every teachers, ❤ I am from india
4:25 4:51 5:07
I like the video i love weights and calisthenics but for me isnt necessary learn muscle ups headbanger chin ups or clean and jerk snatches ... i mean i do basics calisthenics and weights 5x5 ...i love after one month break comeback to workout do burpees untill be ready to lift again weights
Unrelated but I know you have some advice… any tips for learning the bullet flip 😉🤘
5:08 😂
4:20 Chris Heria 😂😂
That is not Heria
bro's leg looks like sticks
4:28 I would think calisthenics folks care more about planche pushup performance than static planche performance and really only train static to facilitate the planche pushups.
After all, we're not gymnasts. 😅
I can't do any of these cali moves so I won't talk shit. 😅
Headbanger chin ups looks so goofy I want to learn it
most overrated and useless: negative muscle up
most underrated and useful: dragon flag
You’re valuable
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Love the programs but perhaps my phone is just poor but using the sit on the phone is near impossible. Hands down App integration.. I'd pay extra for that..
We are working on an App, stay tuned!
@@calimove sign me up!
Who is that guy that looks like Alex but wears dark blue shorts? 😂
Soo proud to see my boyfriend at 4:20 🥰🔥
Tell him to hold the top position.
@@Rhythmicons he also commented on the video saying its him
what means boyfriend? is a progression to reverse planche?
@@Mario4445Dboyfriend means they have relationships
@@uznaz1783 wts why a man wants to have that if we have progressions to do at least victorian cross that is better than waste your time holding other hand that probably doesn't have calluses and no idea of how to do 2 pull ups in a row.
-memes
Terimakasih
Regular dips are op.
Bro i really need your help tell an intense workout plan for 1 month or 2 month for different type of skinny fat guys who have fat legs and but. Fat stomach and little fat chest and skinny hands and really week from home and yeah preventing that extra skin problem you know what im saying lot of guys do intemse workout they loose fat but they see they have that extra ugly skin where they didn't loose they have to fix with surgery i don't want that .
Il n'y a pas de secret le poids du corps joue un rôle important dans tout ce travail...😢
What about high pullups(waist to bar) as a preliminary for muscle ups?
If you can do bar to waist then you already can do muscle-up.
Idk man, some of these are just good for training coordination, body awareness, full body control etc. imo
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How about front lever pull ups/ front lever rows?
Similar as with the Planche Push Ups....They are good for getting better as Frontlever Pull Ups but not optimal for improving the Straight Arm Frontlever Hold.
What do you do to improve stamina?
ton of reps
I am surprised you didn't say sit-ups!
They are overrated too :D
4.20 It's me😂
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Same voice as OE Fitness channel?
Can you give me poco c65 phone😢
Ha?
@@MrVox-wm5wethank you when
Hii @@MrVox-wm5we
Planche push up is overrated? Damn, i just learn this some days ago lol. Oke i will stop learn planche push up, and stay to tuck planch hold i think is better
it's bad if u want to train for planche hold but good if u want to learn the planche push ups
@@Marlow998 I can do planche hold right now, only 10-15 second, but never feel right with push up
@@hafidzmohmar5620 legend
headbangers are just for show off, especially the pronated grip.
Can u make a list of some of the best exercices for combat sports like kickboxing , boxing etc
Youre better of going to kickboxing and boxing specific channels for exercises to help with combat sports.
For combat sport you need to have a complete body of muscles thats being worked out. So ALL calisthenics are needed.
Then you go do the actual combat to get good at combat.
Its two different things that compliment each other.
But you just might want to aim for MUCH higher reps in order to build endurance, rather then focusing on getting as big muscles as possible.
And then aim to do EVERY rep explosively.
Youre utterly wrong about the planche pushup! I went from not been able to hold a tucked planche for more than 1 second to being able to hold advanced tucked planche comfortably without even doing holds nor planche leans. I achieved this with pushups only. Specifically started with normal pushups, then decline, then dips, then tucked dips, then tucked planche pushups, then I was able to hold adv tucked planche.
Ok let me get this straight: You only did tucked planche push ups etc. but not focused straight arm training to compare both with each other? So how did you know that one works better or not if you only tried one of them?
Look we've never said that planche push ups are bad and useless. The only point we made is: straight arm training > bent arm training (when leaning the planche as quick as possible).
So yes, you will make planche progress with planche push ups, but not as effective as when you focus on straight arm movements for most of the time.
No.6 deadlift
Nah
Yeah
Why? It's a good exercise.
Yeah, if you can even come close to finding a replacement for it.
Are you sure that keeping your arms in front of your body during pull-ups targets the biceps more effectively than regular underhand grip pull-ups?
It looks here as if the normal pull-up allowed you to close your elbow more, i. e. moves your biceps through a wider range of motion.
And is it not so that when keeping the elbows in front of the body you assume a hunched over position when pulling yourself up, which compromises the structural integrity of your shoulder and thus creates a much more technical demand for the pull-up than just loading the biceps more?
You have a point, but from what I know, putting the arms infront of you more, puts work away from the back and into the forearms and biceps. Yes, technically pulling your elbows back leads to "more range of motion", for your biceps, but that comes at the cost of your biceps losing tension the more you come to the full top of the movement (Chin over bar, chest over bar). In that top, the main contributor of force now becomes the back.
Thus, putting your elbows more infront of you, and performing a lesser range of motion, as long as the biceps are sufficiently stretched and under tension enough to trigger growth, it will grow. You can further exacerbate this by performing the movement with a supinated grip. Imagine the standard curl, there is massive tension in the middle of the movement but at the top, the working muscle (bicep) is relaxed. It's the same with chin-ups and pullups.
Overall, as far as I know with biomechanics, and as a calisthenics enthusiast, i do agree with the video that putting your arms infront and doing a "half-rep" motion does contribute to better bicep growth, not to say that full range of motion is bad nooo sir. But it just comes down to where it starts, where it goes, and where it ends, and if it's done in a controlled manner or not.
If you ask me, I'd stick to a normal chinup and some ring curls. Because, doing a movement such as the pull up with arms in front feels unnatural for me. Thank you for listening.
@@karlneard8088 Well, it's probably not a big difference either way (though, then they shouldn't need to recommend one over the other).
And sure, range of motion alone is not the whole story; it has to be controlled motion, range of tension.
However, I don't think using one muscle necessarily takes away from others.
Your body moves using chains of muscles and tension spreads throughout such a chain: tensing part of it really hard actually makes it _easier_ to create more tension other parts.
Think about it: a crucial component to produce more force (or any at all) is stability, and this is provided by the muscles around the one with which you want to produce more force.
Hunching over during a pull-up makes it a lot harder to maintain stability in your shoulders, and while it's conceivable that your biceps may work almost on its own, pulling up your body like a wet sack, I doubt this is recommendable - even if it did work the biceps a bit more than normal underhand pull-ups.
@@xCorvus7xI get where you're coming from. Stability is a crucial factor for an exercise to be effective. And assuming a hunch back position can lead to the decrease of that critical component. However, stability can be reinforced by other muscles of the body. Like you said, the body doesn't move individual parts around, it works as an entire unit to get something done. When something from a part of the chain gets tensed up, the rest of the chain tenses up as well.
And your body is aware when an exercise calls for more demand on your stabilizer muscles (shoulders). So it calls upon other more capable stabilizer muscles, like the abdominals and even the chest to some degree (i think) as it is also part of the larger chain (anterior-wise) . And, not to say that your shoulders become obsolete as the stabilizers, it really depends on an individual's strength level. Protracting the shoulders puts it in a disadvantageous position, but depressing it can help keep it firm and even protect it. Like i said, it comes down to how conditioned your shoulders are to resisting something isometrically.
If a person wants a good all-rounder but biases the biceps a little bit more, yes, the arms in front variation is not recommended. Just stick to chin ups or pull ups. As they are still effective bicep workers.
But, if a person wants to specifically drastically one up the bicep above all the others, then the arms in front variation suddenly looks like a good option for that purpose. However, if they wish to choose that exercise, they have to account for the increased demand for stabilization of that exercise. And if their shoulders are lacking a little bit, there will be a good chance of nasty DOMS or worse, injury.
@@karlneard8088 You have a point about conditioning and being able to create stability with more different muscles overall, allowing you to be stable in more different positions (in particular positions where other people may struggle to stabilise their joints).
This is a worthwhile pursuit but I don't just mean that tension from the stabilising muscles flows over into the biceps: rather, this is true for all muscles involved a given movement.
In our example, tension throughout the whole pull chain will allow more muscle tension in any given link and thus more force production both in every link as well as overall. Tension in the latissimus will allow you to tense your biceps more.
This isn't limited to the lats but applies to all muscles up or down the chain of any given muscle involved in a given movement (skeletal muscles _are_ more of a web around the body, not disjoint chains; only in that web certain chains of muscles may be discerned that work during certain movements).
Though, if you want to work the biceps in a way that uses other muscles than the lats, you'd have to do some thing else than pull-ups.
On the other hand, if you're doing pull-ups, it may be counterproductive for your biceps development to neglect the tension in your lats (which actively works against keeping your arms in front of you).
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I don't even do those exercises how can I replace them 🥲.