Chris Harris First Look - Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance | 680hp Hybrid AMG!
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- The all-new Mercedes-AMG C63 S E Performance is here. Chris Harris takes a walk-around to discuss the car and go over some of its features.
The new car features a hybrid powertrain with only four-cylinders for its ICE component, which still required an elongation of its engine bay over the base chassis.
Weighing well over two tonnes and with a smaller boot thanks to the hybrid powertrain, the German car still produces 680hp!
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Mr Harris please don't ever stop reviewing cars.. You aren't boring anyone with that technical talk it's why we choose to watch your videos.
I second this. He’s the best
True that for 10 years .. 😍🔥❤️
I'd go as far as saying Chris talks more sense than Clarkson..
The latter would rarely lift the bonnet to show the internals..
Chris is a legend..
@@stuartd9741 very True .. many Non car guys won't get it..
Yeah its boring reading out the stats, if I want that I would read an autocar review of the C63 I hoped he would drive the car
Most people don’t buy an AMG to be the fastest car on the street. It’s to hear the glorious noise of the V8. You can rarely use all that power that the old car had, much less this new one. Thus “more performance” is not a substitute for removing the V8.
haha, glorious and V8
you an have a more balanced engine with less cylinders and arguably best sounding.
Also battery 1/4 what you have in base model. This makes CO2 still very high and weight heavy.
The best part of the 63 AMG cars is the start up noise, and low rpm burble, remove that and you haven't got the same vibe at all. The top performance metrics are irrelevant to actual enthusiasts.
@@nicholasilsley-jones3095 yep, all to do with sales. Hence why land rover have made nothing but crap for the last 10-15 years.
@@3UZFE completely agree, but enthusiasts don't make the sales the other sectors do.
Chris is like the cool Grandpa that learns all the new lingo and knows how to work their phone, but still sticks to their old school ways. Great man Chris is.
grandpa? maybe an uncle.
@@romulus_ ...a naughty uncle!!!
Grampa??! He's probably not even 40
That Grandpa comment got me too… I instantly felt old. I always thought of Chris as a peer, and neither of us aged in my mind😂
Grandpa?…oof, he’s 47.
I own a c63 507 edition and let me tell you, there is no better feeling then having the knowledge that under my right foot I have the command of 500 stallions that stand to attention at the mere extension of my right foot. Listening to that deep rumble with an undertone of " push me too hard and I'll kill you" at 8am before work on a winters morning !
Is old techinqe….
I know a better thing....one of my two E63S (wagons) in the same situation. ;-)
@@systemsbroken hell no, that does not compete with the old c63, its a completely different category of car, the c63 was a sports car, the e63s has less soul with the turbos and its a massive heavweight hippo limo that is a luxury family car that tries to be sporty
Your comment is petrol head poetry.
So true
It's just so fiendishly complex, there's no way you'd want to own one after the 3 year warranty! The servicing, running and repair costs will be astronomical.
Old cars are the best cars, before they got too complex.
Heavier than W221 S class S63 from 10 years ago, must be fun to drive!
Behave
After all CH can drift anything you throw at him
@@boneszy what a daft fucking comment mate
Mercedes was able to make the heavy gt63s 4door to be a GREAT track car so im sure they can engineer this thing to do the same. Idk how they do it but they're the masters of suspension, comfort and control
@@boneszy du--ck off anG/Lo
Yes, a heavier car can perform almost as good as a lighter model by engineering larger tires, brakes, engine.. But you'll replace them much more often and/or it'll be much more expensive without even considering fuel consumption.. You can solve the weight problem with a lot of engineering and money or you can solve it at its roots.. Light is right!
That is exactly right. Besides that, the performance is only when there is grip available from the road. When there isn’t, for example on snow, you will be unceremoniously thrown into the scenery with your six figure two tonnes amg
True, but since this beast is a hybrid with a four cylinder engine, I would expect reasonable fuel economy during sedate driving. That is, if anyone ever drives it sedately!
For real man. This is probably the first time I disagree with Chris to be honest. Sure, you might be able to 'cheat' with improved technology - but you'd get even more amazing performance if you applied that technology to a lighter car in the first place!!
When the coefficient friction or grip changes, weight is a huge penalty. Light is always right my brother
More important than the cost of consumables, a heavy car cannot help but feel ponderous in corners because all that mass has to change direction, fighting inertia all the way. This is why a sports car’s low weight is more important than its engine power for driving in the twisties.
My 2019 c63s with decats and tune making over 540whp is the best feeling knowing it can be quiet and a cruiser or a loud barky machine 😊
Perverse! long live AMG - Brabus etc. At 50yrs old I feel lucky enough to remember the crazy 80's - 90's cars all the tuners made. Love it!
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3:40 The C55 AMG front wasnt extra build, it is the CLK 209 front.
Thanks Chris. Struggling not to say that the best thing about the old C63 was the sound track from that glorious 6.2L V8. One of the few cars I will always drop a window to listen to as it goes past. I know it has been a 4.0L TT V8 for a while and that sounded good enough. But this? I suppose for most of us the glory of a machine like this is the experience of the non-driver as that is how those of us who can't afford or justify one with man-maths experience it. From that perspective this feels like a loss. But then we're not the ones keeping Benz in business.
yeah, just like saying this gen will feel lighter on the road because of all those systems, laughable...
Remember being in my mates 6.2 c63 coupe years ago, warm late summer evening with the windows and sunroof open and that amazing soundtrack, it did have a aftermarket exhaust but can’t remember the brand.
The sound Is definitely one of the best parts of having a c63.
Just bought a 507… i prefer Chris’s videos of those old 6.3s haha
The same thing happened in the 80s-90s with JDM cars. The majority of performance cars of that era and before (60s-80s) had big displacement engines and once small displacement, high revving engines such as the 4G63, RB26, 2JZ..etc. entered the market, the majority were skeptical. Now a lot of us consider those engines as some of the best sounding ever. Its all relative on what our idea of performance sounds like. Maybe in 10 years we will think these sound great?
This was a cutting edge opinion.....ten years ago.
Drove my mint 2010 C63 P31 yesterday. The chuckle and chills it's start up sound gives me every single time will never be matched by this thing. Ever.
If I want 700hp, I bolt a supercharger kit on it. But honestly, the dynoed 494hp it puts down stock are entertaining enough for me.
The interior sure looks impressive, but also a bit overwhelming.
Couldn't agree more. W204 C63 can be used, & used, & used. Eventually, I suppose they'll all need a top end rebuild but after that you can continue to use it as long as parts & fuel are available.
This thing showcased in this video is found in the crusher no later than 50k miles. Brilliant on paper, a joke made in poor taste in real life imo. The only way a dealership is servicing these things is by video calls made to Stuttgart.
But you've not the money for a supercharge kit so this 4 cylinder electric lawn mowers gonna smoke your old nail
@@keithpritchard5791 exactly!!! These guys are funny with their reasoning for hating this car.
@@keithpritchard5791 I couldn't care less about extreme speed. A V8 C63 is still a ****ing rocket so you won't ever feel slow. And you will have the pleasure of enjoy that beautiful 8 cylinder orchestra every time you start it up.
@@keithpritchard5791 that's 6 year old logic. "This one is faster, so it's better". Or, even more immature logic, "you can't afford this, so you're not better". Most of us outgrow such ways of thinking.
That new thing will also be faster in reaching the junkyard where it will spend the majority of its life. That, or the parking lot of the dealership once the entire hybrid system fails the week after warranty expires. Those last few sentiments are how adults think.
What will happen once that car gets to five years old or even ten years old. Will it become a classic like the 6.3 V8 W204? I'm thinking batteries getting old, the four cylinder engine getting tired because it is such a high stressed motor? Somehow I just cant see the W206 C63 being a good long term proposition. I may be wrong.
All the screens will break, all the sensors for the myriad driving assists will break. This will all be Mercedes specific parts that can only be fixed by them and need coding with their software. You may as well light your money on fire.
@@ImBarryScottCSS One thing is for sure, I'm keeping my C63 Edition 507. That will be a classic someday.
Will be outdated in 4 years. The 6.3 isn't. You can't outdate that noise and it's Plenty fast enough. I said in a previous comment, if you can afford this car, why wouldn't you buy a real c63 and an EV?
@@_TheElMan yep, an ev for the tedious town work and a nice v8 amg for the odd commute and weekends. This mix of heavy batteries and boring (but powerful) 4 cylinder lumps just doesn’t make sense.
These things are going to be on Craigslist for $10 000.
I hated the hybrid C63 when it was a rumour, I hate it even more in the flesh
yeah, just ditch the combustion engine.
RIP V8
4cyl AMG - it’s like the party guy who goes tea total . . .
With an Aston Martin suv as your profile , ye well your opinion doesn’t matter anymore
The douch bag soccer moms don’t mind.
Always love the way Chris can be so candid on the podcast and these videos
Except he isn't.
As ever Mr Harris delivering like only "THE BEST" in business can.
Thank you.
By the way, the wagon looks amazing and indeed should be an all year around weapon.
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Chris Harris not uproarious over this new C63 in regards to the 4 cylinder and weight? I’m very surprised
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He was paid good money to present it positively. No true car enthusiast would accept this change.
That’s madness to think that it’s got MacLaren F1 power levels ! That seemed crazy back in 95 & now we have estate cars with that power 😮
Maclaren make strollers and McLaren F1s are light!
@@paul--b the strollers are much lighter than the cars.
The F1 is around 950kgs lighter...
So if we extrapolate from this comment.
In 27 years from now.
An equivalent AMG 63 station wagon is gonna be all electric an have at least 1200 HP....
@@Trappygit It's one whole na miata lighter, WTF
Sweet ride, Chris is very honest in his delivery. Thank you 👍👍👍👍
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Great vid Chris, looking forward to the drive test, really looks to be a subtle weapon indeed!
Yes, Chris, I have totally enjoyed you trying to be interesting talking around a stationary car.
And you make good points.
The amount of performance plug-in-hybrids can provide from such small engines is just great.
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Whenever Harris pops up in my feed i know its gonna be good. Another great video, can't wait till he drives it.
I could watch Chris all day talk about cars. Just keep doing what you do best, being yourself and your expressive love for cars.
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Got to be said…Chris is always interesting talking about cars and this video is no exception!
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Mr Harris, I don't think I'll ever get to drive C62 AMG of any generation, yet it makes me sad to see the V8 go away. The sound , and presence it brought to the car, I can not Iamagine a 4banger with the battery can deliver. Please make a follow up video once you drive it and be completely honest.
Thank you♥
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Indeed.
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Chris Harris is the man. Been watching your vids for probably 12 years now, roughly since you reviewed the P1
Id rather have -100 bhp Less than the old v8 @400 bhp but keep the v8
Brilliant
4 cylinder but heavier 👏
Sure thats really going to save the polar bears not.
Weight will come from the battery packs and AWD
Climate change is a hoax
Brilliant and enthusiastic explanation as always. 👍
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You are the best Chris and i love your videos ✊🏼 pls do some more and more frequently 😎 best of luck
Channelling your inner Chris Goffey there mate. So much old skool references there for us OG's, love it.
I'm a simple man. I see Chris Harris and a nice car in a video thumbnail, I watch the video. This has served me well.
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Have to say I hadn’t looked at any reviews of this cos it didn’t interest me with I4/EV but you’ve explained it really well, especially it’s a performance EV stance rather than just for economy. Truth is even being a bit portly makes little difference in the real world of day to day driving. They’ll be eye wateringly expensive here in Aus. I think 680hp on the public road is getting a bit silly now though…
they had to rack it up, because even with 680hp it's still slower than m340i or m3 touring starting from the red lights... poor engineering on Mercedes side in my view, with the lump, poor handling and acceleration (for the amount of hp and money). Reminds me of various big American 'muscle' cars that have amazing specs on paper but can't corner or even transfer the full power in a straight line
@@lechprotean Lots of performance assumptions for a car that hasn´t done a single mile on road or track in hands of any car journo. There is not a thing to be said about this car before there is some data out in the real world. It´s sad they´ve gone the downsizing/hybrid route. But I think this is a car that might be an absolute shocker in terms of real world performance. It might just be able to smoke every competing car there is, with all wheel drive and over 1000NM system output... Hard beating that with an M340i...
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Hi Chris thanks for the awesome videos you make you're, without any doubt,for me, the best youtuber car presenter. That video of gr yaris one of the best I'ever seen I've watched it 555 times. Thanks for everything and keep the good work.
People were very negative about the weight of the R35 GT-R when it appeared, too. They mostly shut up pretty quickly
Wish they brought this sort of content into top gear.. You're great at what you do Chris.
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I don't know how he knew it, but he pulled me back in exactly when I was drifting off. Like he knew how long he'd have my attention for. Media legend.
That was the best "talking around a stationary car" review I've seen so far 😄
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*I THINK…*
We need to start moving past HP figures, as electric almost gives any number you require.
And we start focusing on weight, dynamics and driving pleasure.
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and sound, the engines true sound is very important.
I don't think I'd be as annoyed if they'd managed to get a 6 under there. Maybe it's just me, but I don't want a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder in my sport saloon. It's the reason why I bought my 1 series over a Golf GTi, and everything I've had before that. I'd definitely still rather have an M3, even with that ghastly front end, I think I like the RS4 more than this too.
I just thing the weight is silly too. If everything we drive is over 2 tonnes our roads don't stand a chance of staying in one piece.
I get it though, it's not for me. Shame, because my favourite car I've ever owned was my E46 330i estate, and I've always wanted a 6.2 C/E63.
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Get one then or a c55 estate :)
Great job Chris, and yes you had my attention all the way through. Always interesting to listen to someone smarter than me.
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C63 2040:
14000 lbs
5100 bhp
0-60 in 1.5 seconds
*requires train tracks and to be plugged into a 240v socket, 2 mile long cable included
Well, that was interesting…
I’d happily watch Chris chatting in a stationary car all day. Great car. Too complicated? Probably. Amazing what can be done though. A real pinnacle of achievement for Mercedes.
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Simply waiting for the road test. I think it looks awful but the whole class does now.
A comparison test alongside the new M3 Wagon will be fascinating
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Chris, you're not boring anyone. We would've stayed and watch a 1h review if need be.
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Possibly the best review of the new C63 I have seen to date!
Cheers for the video, i personally loved the techy data stuff - please don't stop "boring" us! Not enough people dare (or care) to do the informative bits these days..
Can't wait to see how these new machines will hold up throughout the years!
I would love to drive one despite being very conservative in regards to driving emotion, though it's probably lovely in its own right.
BUT if I had the money I would rather buy an old E55, a Citroen XM V6, and a BMW E39 528i Touring to do all the things that this car does (except the frugality of the powertrain of course)
The future is inevitable though but luckily it doesn't look too boring, although a bit quiet/synthetic..
Oh well, I'll enjoy the old cars while still possible and make use of the advancements in tire technology.
And if anyone has read this far, thank you and have a lovely day and weekend!❤️
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Screw that, I'll stick with the 6.2 and the 4.0 before any 4 banger, no matter how fast it is.
yeaaaa yeaa we get it BigGeR eNginE go VrOOM smh
@@philb707 it’s not just about the bigger engine. It’s about the overall driving experience… the fun factor.. smdh
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Wagon drivers are a special breed (especially those without kids). One of my good buddies is into them and he would absolutely love this thing
I enjoyed watching the Video. Definitely one of the best Hybrid Performance Estate Cars 😊
Amazing car. But I can imagine the servicing (and any repair) cost will be insane.
No point worrying it'll be included in the £xxxx a month a lease deal of the prospective buyers
Maybe. A 4 pot would be cheaper to run less spark plugs one air filter less engine oil etc etc..
And that electric motor giving the initial shove would take some stress out of the motor dragging all that weight around..
Might be surprisingly agile....
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Not bad for stationary car.
Great, as always, Chris!!!
Torque Fill - That's a new thing, MercedesISM 😜🤣
LOVING these new videos lads, very good indeed... Thanks heaps for geeky information along with the odd skid here and there ..... 👍👍👍
Impressive indeed
W204 C63 was the peak
I thought Chris Harris would have been the only honest journalist about the new C63AMG but obviously even he can't say what he really thinks about that car. That's realy sad! It just feels like another Mercedes commercial!
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Chris, you’ve made a boring video about a stationary car fun and interesting. Best video I e watched in a while.
Great video, really interesting watch and a great looking weapon, look forward to the next one :-)
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This car deserves a different name to stamp its own identity. The C63 will always and forever be tied to that roaring sound and aura of hooligan. Lazy marketing or whatever, this ain't no C63 AMG, imo
Wow - if the wagon came to the US I'd be very excited!
Wow, I think you alone liked it.
Don’t worry, it’s sedan only for the USA because SUV’s. 😂
My favorite little brown man and car youtuber, no homo. I don't care how powerful it is, these cars have been more powerful than most of us normals can safely use, for a long time. The greatest appeal of these AMGs has been their amazing sound track from those V8s. I'll never busy one of these and will keep my V8 for ever, even if I have to replace everything, owning an AMG is about that guttural V8 experience for the ICE engine generations. This is a great car for a hairdresser or a Hollywood corn holer.
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I was very worried about a turbo 4 in a C63, but OMG I'm so keen to try one of these, especially in a shagging wagon, Rj in Oz
I am very disappointed to learn that Chris Harris, who I personally consider as a strong petrolhead and an honest person having criticized ferrari in the past, appraises a 4 cylinder engine in an amg car. Comparing its 10 second power output (when the battery is charged and when the appropriate mode is selected) with the m4 6 cylinder engine, sounds to me like a comparison other type of reviewers would make. Additionally it is not mentioned that by ditching the V8 c63 loses the one major advantage all these years had: the biggest engine among the other german performance cars in its class that produced the best soundtrack. Nowadays it packs the smallest engine with a sound vw golfs naturally produce. I personally believe that there is no point for anyone having the previous c63 downgrading to that year’s model, after all driving a sports car is an emotional experience.
He's getting with the times, which clearly people like you are not.
Nobody cares about your M4 and your disappointment. This is a Mercedes not a BMW.
Go watch an M4 video with your tissue paper.
Hey Mercedes, remember when reliability and Mercedes went together. Remember bragging how your cars would go 300,000 easily? Remember the grill medallions you would send owners for crossing mileage milestones? I do.
For quite a while I expected you to drift it like a hooligan! Very nice car, great report!
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I did find it interesting Chris, good effort. You might have a future in this presenting game you know. 👍🏼
I wanted to doubt this car. But Mercedes really seem to be pulling out all the stops. The C63 uses the same Tenneco CVSA2 suspension system as the AMG GT Black. The GT Black's extra 200kg over the GT2RS didn't seem to hurt it too much. With that suspension, the battery pack at the rear and over 50% of the weight at the rear the new C63 should be pretty interesting dynamically. (50/50 is NOT ideal despite what bmw says) AMG has to be benchmarking the G80 M3 internally. Because if this car comes out and with all its E Performance tech it looses to a ICE only G80 it will be completely useless. I'm kind of suspicious why the press drive only had journalists ride along with engineers and not driving impressions from the journalists.
If I remember correctly this car despite extra power is no faster than current M3, because it's so damn heavy, so I really don't see the point. And Merc have said that emissionwise they could have made it V8. Which they should have. I'd take the Alfa.
@@maggotpudding Yeah good point I remember that. They said they could have done a V8 what a shame. Do you know if the 2020+ Alfa's have improvements over the early ones. A friend owned a 2018 gulia qv and it was absolutely an Alfa. He road tripped it down from Washington to California picking me up along the way. Driving through California back roads all three of us fell in love with the car. Incredible ride refinement and rev happy engine on the highway, amazing light but sharp steering, chassis with incredeble dynamics that flows with the road, and the most exciting lovely short gears in the corners. I was convinced I was going to buy one. Untill we got to Angeles crest and the thing went into limp mode with 4000 miles on the clock. We bought a code scanner and it kept happening. We realized it needs the tank well over half full or else it can't be driven hard. The harder we drove it the weirder the brake pedal felt. When the rest of the car is so fucking perfect even a small inconsistency in the brake is noticeable. Plus the rear diff doesn't lockup at low speeds leaving it spinning one wheel many times. I realized as good as the car was I couldn't own one with all these issues. In 4 days I fell in love with the car only for it to break my heart. It's a true Alfa in every sense.
British designed electric motor
@@maggotpuddingI’ll see on on the hard shoulder of the M6 in that alfa then 😂
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If they did like they did in the new C43 AMG, a 48 volts mild hybrid, that would be cool!
A45s engine + electric assisted turbo + 20hp/200nm electric motor to help at low rpm and totally eliminate turbo lag. Combined a total of 500hp and at least 650nm of torque. A 8 or 9 speed DCT, RWD only, making it lightweight with carbon panels and so on, no rear steering because it feels awkward, focus on the driving experience, exhaust note, feedback from the controls, dynamics etc... I believe it would be a sucess. Because having a lightweight 4 cylinder over the front has its advantages, however it has to sound good otherwise the experience is lost. Overall with the carbon parts it would be a lighter car than the M3, it would be more agile and more precise, probably even more fun if they did it right.
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Stunning ! Looks like that's going to the number 3 spots on my dream list behind the GTS and the GTC4Lusso.
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well explained about the techy stuff. The car should be epic. Hope see one at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in 2023.
It looks amazing on the outside but people forget how important the engine sound is to the experience of driving. But things like air con controls all on the screen is a nightmare to use. That alone is enough for me to say no.
If this is the future, I’ll be reaching for old keys
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I'd say the next E63S will be a ~3.0L V6 or I6 + sparks, around 800-850hp
Quality review as always mate
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Well done 👏
That is a painful intriguing car. AMGs are all cool, but the wagons have always been the coolest. #1
Brilliant work as always, Chris and Sam!
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Another golden review from Chris but I just hate the whole electric dribble. It’s not clean it’s not green but at the same time I am in awe of how much power it adds
Very good content Chris Rocks!
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Can no longer watch top gear because it's purely an entertainment show and less about car's. This I like because it satisfies the thing people hated about me and car's. My nerd 🤓 I love the detail's just as much as I love side way's smoke bellowing madness. Great vid proper car stuff 👏🙂
This is amazing. More performance and enjoyment without an increase in emissions. I'm constantly amazed at how smart engineers are. Bravo Mercedes and AMG.
Nice too see you Chris ! Actually I would love to see you driving and share your expertise.
From my perspective what’s the point of having 2.1tons 680hp in a car that it’s not an extension of you ? (I’m assuming that a lot of the feel that you once experienced it’s not there, or is just to easy to drive)
Comfort + speed. Not involvement
Since most of the extra weight in this car is added solely to enhance dynamics, this car will feel light-footed. It will be far more nimble and wieldy than AMG sedans of the past. Does more capability mean more engagement? Set it to drift mode, then decide for yourself.
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Can't wait for you to drive it! I want to see the cognizant differences between figures and real world.
I have to say, I love how this looks. I know they won't sell it in the US as an estate, but man does it look good.
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Wow that's a complicated machine, I'd hate to think what repair costs would be out of warranty.
Yah this will depreciate quick outside of warranty period forsure.
Much of the componentry and tech is closely related to other models. It will likely have standard running costs for a super-sports wagon/sedan.
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You do a very good jobs of choosing cars to make videos, been wondering about this car 👍
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Some devils advocate thoughts for those hating on this car because it's not a V8 twin-turbo / 6.2 V8 or whatever else.....Mercedes already made those cars.... they're not going anywhere..... you can go out and find a nice previous gen TT 4.0 V8.... it's a wonderful car I used to have one prior to 5.5 E63s.... and good news! they're cheaper now than they were when they were new :) but I think it's really interesting that 'this' car is now going to exist.... Variety is the spice of life and regardless of whether the new C63 with the 2.0 4 banger turbo hybrid electric system is any good or not, it's an additional entry in the book of interesting cars that we're all so interested in. So stop being so ruddy negative and when you get a chance, drive one, knowing that if you don't like it, the gently worn bolsters and shiny steering wheel of a 4.0 bi turbo will be waiting for you on @collectingcars or where ever you live out your fantasies. For what it's worth, I have a 2014 E63 wagon / estate and it's great. The 5.5 V8 sounds awesome but I barely hear it because I'm not revving the thing out with while pottering to the shops and back - that's what my other weekend cars are for and I'd rather drive 'them' on the weekend. I'd be genuinley curious about checking one of these out because the instant torque, wagon / estate form factor, great looks and not for one second would I be put off because of the sound it 'doesn't' make. Anyone leasing / buying one of these can have something else interesting (with a stick) hiding in the shed ready to test their lug holes.
I get the whole 'cheating physics' point, but just imagine all of that same tech applied to a car that actually was light. Imagine say an M3 that had all of the chassis and tire advancements of the last 25 years but weighed 3,200 lbs (the weight of an E36 M3) instead of the 3,900 lbs it weighs today.
I get where the weight comes from (the whole turbo system on an M3 probably weighs 100+ lbs, the stronger stiffer shell certainly adds weight, the beefier drivetrain components to handle the additional power all add weight as well) but the question is are the things that are adding all of this weight the same things that are actually making the cars better or are they just the things that are making them pointlessly faster?
I am a good driver, I have the lap times to prove it, M3s have been too fast for me to use at their limit in the real world since the E92. Hell my stage 1 Mk7 Golf R is pretty close to the limit of what I can push on anything reasonably tight. I enjoy the thrust of a powerful car on the straights as much as the next guy, but performance I can't use is wasted, and when it comes at the expense of the pleasure of driving that I can enjoy at real world speeds then it becomes less than useless.
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It does not feel expensive - it just is
By far the best car reviewer Ever. Thanks chris.
I have the c43 v6. Can't let it go. Just going to tune it and keep driving it. Only 37k miles. 2017
The trouble with this car is they've gone all in to give it all the things I don't want.
Such power look very much - No thanks C63 was already more than powerful enough.
Electric parts zap zap very quiet - I'll take the rolling away quietly but not at the cost of a load of added electric gubbins that can and do go wrong at great expense. Again, I don't need the power.
Technology though surely blip bloop many screens push push yes - Fuck no, screens belong on a table or in your pocket. 99.9% of owners will use 1% of the tech in this car. It goes brum and moves me about, I don't need to know what the weather is two weeks from now, I don't need to talk to a nice German lady to activate this month's heated steering wheel subscription, just please fuck off.
It looks nice but in all the ways that are meaningful to me it's worse than the old car. The V8 was already comfortably twice as fast as you would ever ever need in the UK, has more space inside, less technology to go wrong and - yes I'm going to say it - sounds like a fucking V8, this sounds like a Hoover on nitrous.
Also about the weight, yes tire tech has come a long way, yes designers do a great job as masking the weight - but that all applies at 1700kg too, if 2.3 ton cars can drive like an old 1.8 ton car then imagine how well they would do at 2.0 ton. You can't just say it's OK because it drives better than a 30 year old car.
I think one of the issues here is the current E63 can be easily tuned to well over a 1000bhp. Can this pull those numbers? Probably not. The E63s dominate top end figures on the track, will this be able to do the same thing? I’d guess not. And lastly, I can picture a certain Gordon Murray hearing you say 2100kg isn’t that bad in a road car and having an immediate case of diarrhoea.
how many buyers want to tune their very expensive car and void the warranty? this is extremely impressive for an off the shelf car, which is how 99% of owners will keep it. most won't see anything close to a track. car guys need to come back down to earth for a second. you know, reality.
Yeah, that's the issue for sure. The very few people that tune their Mercedes wagon, not the 99% of people that cruise around in comfort... definite issue
@@romulus_ Americans and people obsessed with being faster than their mates. C63 owners for example.
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The engine plaque - Handcrafted by Burak Acar. Cok guzel German craftsmanship.
Loved this video regardless
This is goign to be a huge flop and they wont understand why
Please God make this hybrid electric crap end.
I had an E63s estate with 612 bhp. This looks next level 👍
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