The range of the Polestar 2 is almost the same as my Model 3 SR+. I did 590km yesterday in 6,5 hours from Germany (near Nuremberg) to Vienna with 2 stops (Hengesberg and St.Valentin) with consumption 156 Wh/km (spent 92 kWh). I had between 160-170 Wh/km at 130km/h speed. So my range is at least 300 km at highway speed in summer. After 11 months and 18.500 km is my total consumption 164 Wh/km.
Polestar 2 is advertised as 450 nedc, that is the car can do a lot less in reality. Notice how Tesla model 3 sr+ has 480km EPA? The epa range is a lot closer to reality than the nedc one
Nerium Oleander if u do the math by dividing the battery pack volume with the efficiency, polestar 2 really is the least efficient electric sedan in 2020. Of course no testing numbers can reflect the real figures 100%, but epa range is still way closer to nedc.
@@RadioactiveSaddam Guessing because of frontal area being inefficiently shaped and also inherited from a fossil car. I too am interested to see how the XC40 will perform. I have several doubts about it performing well however I am ready to be positively surprised.
I think it will be very similar to this but slightly worse due to less aerodynamic shape, taller vehicle and larger frontal area. But I still expect it to be within 5-10% of the Polestar 2 on the High speed test.
I appreciate your efforts. Thank you so much to bring all these informations to all of us. As a Volvo driver I was so exited about this car and I was looking forward to my first test drive in September. But after all the consumption videos I guess I will go for a Tesla. High consumption in combination with the "great working" German charging network definitely influences the decision towards Tesla. Even the Tesla is more noisy and the headlights are a bad joke in comparison to the Polestar 2.
Hate to say it like this but I think old school guys will understand me, Tesla cars have soul. Its different driving them. Gives you the joy of a 90s japanese sports vehicle like the R32 GTR.
@@rmkri Firstly Robert, thank you for saving the environment with an E-Vehicle, secondly that sounds pretty crap. I hope they can find out where that noise is coming from... doesn't sound healthy at all lol
To be honest the model 3 headlights , aside of the lack of cornering function and adaptive lighting, seems quite good at nightime, and as per nhtsa better but most advanced led and xenon lighting headlights.
Bjørn, many (all?) of these cars have the headlights adjusted way too high from the factory (oddly enough), so they need to have them mechanically adjusted in a garage with the correct tools. Takes only a few minutes.
@@bjornnyland In the US, good alignment is the headlight's beam staying perfectly level, in Europe, good alignment is the beam facing downwards slightly. ('Dipped beam' as we call it) - Different regulations. This is why Tesla's have their beam out of alignment in Europe from the factory. I'd like to say that's the case for Polestar, but these don't ship to the US yet do they? Regardless, the manufacturer/dealer should correct this before delivery. 😅
@@bjornnyland Hei Bjørn. Polestar har en innstilling for hovedlysene med valg av høyrekjøring eller venstrekjøring, ser ut som denne er innstilt feil som med møtende trafikk for høyre(ratt)
This auto steer deactivation if not responsive is a very good safety feature. I really disagree how other cars just disable and the car just goes anywhere.
FIGHTTHECABLE in my pre facelift Tesla, if you ignore the final warning, it sets off the hazard warning indicators, then brings the car to a standstill within the lane. That was one of the reasons I bought the car. It also requires you to bring the car to a complete stop before you can re-engage it. I think are both a good thing. I do like that the P2 starts a series of short, violent, braking to wake you up. Great idea.
It's a gorgeous car and definitely an alternative to the Model 3 for those who want it. I just am very surprised at the consumption and range. I bet the lights can be adjusted with a software update since they're digital.
The car does have Matrix, adaptive lights. 84 LEDs individually controlled. So not only auto High/Dipped beam, but the camera identifies up to 5 cars in front (going in same direction or coming towards) and uses software to blank off those vehicles from the beam. So in some ways it doesn’t matter how high the beams shine, oncoming traffic should never be blinded. But I agree, on this car they do look too high.
@@kaasman78 The 0-60 acceleration may be the same but i bet 30-70mph ( i would argue more important and more relevant ) would be in favour of the model 3 AWD.
That low beam is crazy high, even the top of big signs is way too illuminated. If you drive it on a country road the oncoming traffic would be blinded, very strange setup and hopefully a one off case where the calibration is not right.
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Pretty sure it has matrix led, so any field of vision that has oncoming cars or cars ahead of you would be dimmed down. It's quite common in newer cars. For Polestar 2, I think it's even "pixel leds", which means that it dims the exact area as well, so a full beam passes around the oncoming cars, but doesn't blind the driver. At least that's the theory. My Audi E-tron has the first stage of matrix led, and does in fact dim the areas with oncoming traffic. His findings in the video are a bit alarming.
RE: lights, at least from my understanding, then the LED matrix works when full beam is activated so you should just keep that on all the time. "High beam is on at all times and the system dims the lights for you."
Bjørn Nyland yeah, but the Polestar has Active, adaptive Matrix LEDs, so using the camera and the radar to identify where other cars are, the software should completely blank off that part of the beam that hits other cars. I don’t see why any owner would choose to drive on manual lights when there was this option; particularly if the lights were set too high.
Michael Fulton sadly not. There is such a setting, but you have to actually select it. Just selecting High Beam doesn’t activate Active. Absolutely no idea why not. Seems an obvious thing to have designed in.
Very interesting review Bjorn. I was expecting good things from the Polestar but it didn't look so good. That's a shame. Thanks for doing all the tests Bjorn.
No matter if you love or hate Tesla: it shows again how efficient and advanced the battery and drivetrain of Tesla is, especially Model 3 - a car which is on the market sind 2017!
Super cool charging teaser! Great music choice... About consumption - wow, that`s insanely inefficient car... That`s etron territory right there... 230wh - Its so bad...I estimate 200km winter range on higway...(to have 5-10% margin)
I did notice that he was driving around without one pedalled driving on at all. This ultimately reduces the range and most tests use the standard setting and Tesla tests also use it.
I thought that the Polestar had LED matrix headlights, they are supposed to switch off the segments that would be directed towards oncoming traffic. If I remember correctly it was meant to be able to cope with up to five oncoming cars, it was one of the features that impressed me in the launch video...
It does. The cars have been delivered without someone checking the lights. Early buyers have to visit the shop to get them aligned properly, for free of course.
Thanks Björn! Great video! I have the exact same P2 model and also the same noise from the steering wheel. I will claim that more easily now when you recorded it so thanks again! I have a plan to test if lighter alloy wheels will add to the range. About 5Kg per wheel probably. What would you guess that could do for the range? I heard from an etron owner that it gave 40km so I assume something similar. Let's see...
Forgot to mention.... My lowbeam is OK from factory. I've had several Volvo cars before with LED headlights and the Polestar pixel headlights are impressive and far the best I've had. Allthouh the "Auto Highbeam" is not yet working because of a bug I guess. Finally I also have problems with the charging limit not working. Even if it is set to 80% the charge proceeds to 100%. Also a bug I assume.
Lighter wheels won't do much for range. It's mostly about tire width and rim design - if the rim has a good aero design. Case in point - Model 3 18" wheels with aero wheel caps is around 2-4% more efficient than without caps. With caps they obviously are even slightly heavier.
Wheels and weight shrugs of a good portion of the range, probably, and obviously aerodynamics. I hope you do a Model 3 Long Range with aero wheels soon, would be nice to see it compared to 3P and Polestar 2.
it's the CMA architecture (the M is for modular) which does not have constraints based on drive train. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Modular_Architecture_platform Only the wheelbase and peddlebox is fixed, everything else (like drive train) is modular. But it was first used for ICE cars, so you're not completely wrong!
@@bjornnyland potential energy per tear = 0,025g * 9.8 *1.72m (I'm not that long). = 0,42 J 0,42 * 0,000000277777778 = 0,00000011666666676 kWh per tear So I need 493714285319 tears to get an extra 80% SoC for my Model3 LR AWD. That's around 12 million liters or 12000m³. Guess I have to cry me a river 😂.
Sheeeeet! My '55 ain't got nuff space for a Kaplan OR Pelton.... What if I use a usb fan in reverse for the front motor and handheld PV feeding on the ambient lighting for the rear? Ionity, shame on U, now we have to geek up all kinds of alternatives!
The first time I charged my Model 3 SR+ to 100%, it took almost an hour from 99% to 100%. I have only done it once since and the time estimate was more accurate so I guess it just had to calibrate the system.
I don't see how regen limit proves that there is no top buffer on the battery. It would make sense that if you have a top buffer you would not make use of this for regen charging either. What it proves is that the car (like most) have no power dump other than the battery.
Hi, thanks for entertaining and educating videos. I've just received my Polestar 2, and had a trip with it on a route I've done many times before with other cars. What puzzled me is that the consumption is way higher than what I expected and only approx 60% !? of the calculated range (Polestars range calculator at their web site) for the given temp and driving conditions (5C and countryside roads). What also puzzled me was just before setting of on the trip, the SOC dropped from approx 60% to around 40% during a couple of km's... and when i halfway into the drive charged the car from SOC 8% to 90%, the car only received 44,9 kWh (delivery report from energy company). Are there any known bugs/issues with the BMS on these cars, giving off completely wrong SOC?
No, it's just how some cars are set up. If you watch my other videos, you will for example see that most Teslas over-report distance by about 1 %. And I-Pace under-reports distance by as much as 2.7 %.
According to the specs the Polestar 2 , compared to the model 3 is : 8.8cm shorter ,4.9cm narrower (body), 3.6 cm higher and has a 1.1cm higher ground clearance. Overall it's very similar to a model 3 externally and internally (saves the boot and frunk that are definately bigger in the model 3). The P2 dimension can be founds here : www.polestar-forum.com/threads/polestar-2-dimensions.299/
@@Haldexify polestar 2 height 1479mm , model 3 1443mm = 36mm of difference. The Polestar 2 does indeed look much bigger because the boxy shape of polestar vs sloping roof in the model 3 and the first also looks o much higher because of the optical illusion of the side black skirting , and you do in fact sit far higher than the tesla (because of the CMA architecture) but it's not that big , in fact inside, the cabin space is more or less the same.
@@Haldexify Nothing to be sorry about, in the end the seat of the Polestar is around 6cm higher than the model 3 plus if you consider that the polestar 2 side windows are very short , to the point that its the lower margin should roughly start at half height of a model 3 windows, no wonder that, if you overtake a polestar 2 ,feels like it's a truck in comparison .
The Polestar team did a good job at dissimulating it's size making you thinking it's a bigger and higher car that what it really is with : Aggressive approach and departure angles, dark and thick side skirt , wheel arches and front splitter , and very short/narrow windows and windshield.
@@Haldexify I haven't tried the infotainment system in the Polestar 2 so far but from what i've seen I like the GUI of Android Automotive, and in the context of usage while driving so far i prefer it over model 3. Nothing wrong with the model 3 , i think it's still the best one to use when the car is parked , but when driving , the simplified GUI , with big virtual buttons with high contrast ,simplified elements of android automotive ... I think it's more immediate and safe to use over the beautiful and minimalist Tesla interface , but i repeat , never driven the polestar 2 .
So, this might be a bit late. But I'm so close getting at Polestar 2, should I go for the Performance version or the standard? From what I've read the Performance version delivers lower range than the standard version? And the updates indicates that Polestar are working on the range and charging issues.
When Volvo detects due to driver inactivity, it disengages auto steer and does not do emergency stop like Polestar 2 does. At least that's how my wife's 2019 XC90 behaves.
The contrary, using high regen in this testing will only lower the overall efficiency. This is because the round trip of cinetic energy->electricity->cinetic energy is around 64% (80% over 80%recovered) whereas if you decelerate simply "freewheeling" you'll conserve 100% of the kinetic energy (and you'll slow down slowly because friction losses) .
I switched between no regen and strongest regen. In downhill I coasted. This is probably why the efficiency on this video was better than the previous shorter test where I just regen down the hills in a different stretch.
So, at high speed, when long range is important, polestar 2 has a range a lot closer to model 3 Standard Range Plus than any model 3 with the big battery? And for long trips SuC would make model 3 SRP far better than polestar 2 in most instances.
Maybe you already tested it. But I’m very curious how the long trip planning works with multiple charging points on the route. And compare it with Tesla’s excellent multi charger long route planner.
Bjørn Nyland, with all your experience, which EV car comes closest to as good built in long route planner that can plan a long route with multiple charging pints, if anyone? (Besides Tesla)
@@connynikolaisen8106 I'm not Bjørn but i would think that, if Polestar 2 Android automotive is able to get the Abetterouteplanner android APP , it may be a serious contender to the tesla planner.
What's the weight difference between the Model 3 and this car? At one point you said it was more similar to the Model S so shouldn't it be compared to the efficiency of the Model S? Good video. Thanks.
Self leveling headlight calibration can still made manually but not in the cabin, you need to use a screwdriver on the headlights but it would be best to leave to a mechanic that usually have instruments to adjust the height at the appropriate .
Will you test the Aiways U5 any time soon? Is Aiways selling in Norway? MG ZS EV will finally be available in Germany soon, so more and more cars to choose from :)
>buggy software >rattles >headlights out of alignment "I won't buy a Tesla because it's got bad build quality, this is a Volvo so it'll be good quality!" This should be a good lesson in why stereotypes are bad. Any new car can have issues straight out of the factory, not just Tesla's. 🤔 (Good tests btw Bjørn! Great to finally see some realistic results online about the car!)
I-Pace, e-tron and other "premium" EVs are also getting weird issues, black screens, unable to drive issues and similar things you wouldn't expect from an established car manufacturer. What I've concluded is that people who run away from Tesla thinking that other brands are issue free are getting unvanted surprises.
@@bjornnyland Exactly. It's great to see other brands trying to make EVs, but it's crazy for people to assume any brand will be totally flawless. EVs and modern cars in general are extremely software heavy, the amount of work required to create a seamless experience is underestimated. :)
Usually Bjorn never performs 150km/h tests (as he's limited by road laws ) but you may check Nexmove channel, they are based in Germany and usually tests their EVs on the Autobhan and performs 90-120 and sometimes 150km/h range tests.
@@mattaut88 Each headlamp shall be adjustable. For this, a SEG is absolutely necessary for new vehicles. The 10 meter wall method is no longer up-to-date. This is also checked during general inspections. Headlamp manufacturers such as Hella have further information on their websites.
@@bjornnyland The adjustment of the headlamps should be checked by the workshop before a new car is delivered to the customer. At BMW, for example, this is explicitly requested on the handover certificate.
My God, the tire noise drumming on the pavement was driving me nuts! What were the tire pressures set to? Maybe too hard in order to try to get longer range but sacrificing ride quality and quietness. Don't know without knowing what the pressures were. Hey, Bjorn! Does the Polestar have a screen to show you tire pressures???
An off topic question: the only con for Tesla seems to be the lack of a decent fit&finnishmin combination with a poor quality control at the assembly plant. Has Elon Musk or any other Tesla executive adressed this issue? Why aren’t thing beeing improved? What are the reasons for these quality issues? Please no answers that they need to produce a lot of cars in a short period of time. The cars have been produced for quite some time now... Do you really expect this to be solved by german made cars? Just curious...
I have seen a couple of articles today indicating that the Polestar 2 "runs on fumes" for 10 miles after reaching 0 miles estimated range. Did you factor this into your range test Bjorn?
No. I never test or count on anything past 0 % on any EVs. If you have watched my channel, you would have seen that I have run out of juice several times when going too close or a little bit past 0 %. Going there is like Russian roulette.
@@TheSteinbitt Everytime someone says Tesla has "autonomous driving" I cringe so bad. Stop claiming that, idiots sleep while using it and literally kill themselves and other people. Polestar also has over the air updates.
Tesla, Leaf and some other EVs also has a buffer past 0 %. But I never test past 0 % because you can never guarantee it will have any. I have run out of juice several times. It's in my channel. I don't recommend anyone trying to go past 0 %. That's why I never test past 0 %.
@@ted_maul I mean it's not that good that is goes about as far as my model 3 that has a 409 km wltp range. This car has a 470 km wltp range and a 50 percent larger battery. It should do better. Personally with a Tesla all you really need is getting between Superchargers, the rest is just luxury
That doesn't make sense. We know the P2 isn't as efficient as the Tesla, but you bought a car with the same range as the P2 and you're happy with it. Car buyers make their decision on a number of factors.
@@ted_maul I don't think you understand. The model 3 sr+ has a 50kWh battery. The polestar 2 has a whopping 78kWh battery. Both go the same distance. Polestar thus costs more to charge, more expensive battery in case of replacement, heavier battery (tires wear out quicker), worse for environnement......
@@insevanhouts I understand perfectly well mate. As I already explained, not everyone buys cars based on the criteria of a spreadsheet. People have different priorities. For example, If I want panel gaps I can see from space and a car ranked dead last in JD Power's reliability survey I'll buy a Tesla. If not, I might choose something else, and compromise on range. "Tyres wear out quicker" - thanks for the laugh, that's great.
The range of the Polestar 2 is almost the same as my Model 3 SR+. I did 590km yesterday in 6,5 hours from Germany (near Nuremberg) to Vienna with 2 stops (Hengesberg and St.Valentin) with consumption 156 Wh/km (spent 92 kWh). I had between 160-170 Wh/km at 130km/h speed. So my range is at least 300 km at highway speed in summer. After 11 months and 18.500 km is my total consumption 164 Wh/km.
Polestar 2 is advertised as 450 nedc, that is the car can do a lot less in reality. Notice how Tesla model 3 sr+ has 480km EPA? The epa range is a lot closer to reality than the nedc one
Nerium Oleander if u do the math by dividing the battery pack volume with the efficiency, polestar 2 really is the least efficient electric sedan in 2020. Of course no testing numbers can reflect the real figures 100%, but epa range is still way closer to nedc.
@@yuhufeng5370 Model 3 SR+ has ~400 km EPA range. 480 km is the EPA rating of the Performance model.
Can't wait to see the range test-video on the upcomming electric XC40.
I think it will be very thirsty
@@elliottwadsworth4201 why?
@@RadioactiveSaddam Guessing because of frontal area being inefficiently shaped and also inherited from a fossil car. I too am interested to see how the XC40 will perform. I have several doubts about it performing well however I am ready to be positively surprised.
I think it will be very similar to this but slightly worse due to less aerodynamic shape, taller vehicle and larger frontal area. But I still expect it to be within 5-10% of the Polestar 2 on the High speed test.
It looks really pretty in thunder grey
I appreciate your efforts. Thank you so much to bring all these informations to all of us.
As a Volvo driver I was so exited about this car and I was looking forward to my first test drive in September. But after all the consumption videos I guess I will go for a Tesla. High consumption in combination with the "great working" German charging network definitely influences the decision towards Tesla. Even the Tesla is more noisy and the headlights are a bad joke in comparison to the Polestar 2.
Hate to say it like this but I think old school guys will understand me, Tesla cars have soul. Its different driving them. Gives you the joy of a 90s japanese sports vehicle like the R32 GTR.
@@MainstreetMyrnn and the build quality of a 1990s Kia. Here's how mine sounds lately. th-cam.com/video/5fyZpooS4Nk/w-d-xo.html
If you can, wait for giga Berlin produced Tesla's...
@@rmkri Firstly Robert, thank you for saving the environment with an E-Vehicle, secondly that sounds pretty crap. I hope they can find out where that noise is coming from... doesn't sound healthy at all lol
To be honest the model 3 headlights , aside of the lack of cornering function and adaptive lighting, seems quite good at nightime, and as per nhtsa better but most advanced led and xenon lighting headlights.
"but other than that, this car works great, yeeeeeeeaaaaah" That's Bill Lumbergh style! I love it :D
Bjørn, many (all?) of these cars have the headlights adjusted way too high from the factory (oddly enough), so they need to have them mechanically adjusted in a garage with the correct tools. Takes only a few minutes.
Correct, many Polestar 2 owners are having this issue.
@@bjornnyland In the US, good alignment is the headlight's beam staying perfectly level, in Europe, good alignment is the beam facing downwards slightly. ('Dipped beam' as we call it) - Different regulations.
This is why Tesla's have their beam out of alignment in Europe from the factory. I'd like to say that's the case for Polestar, but these don't ship to the US yet do they? Regardless, the manufacturer/dealer should correct this before delivery. 😅
@@bjornnyland Hei Bjørn. Polestar har en innstilling for hovedlysene med valg av høyrekjøring eller venstrekjøring, ser ut som denne er innstilt feil som med møtende trafikk for høyre(ratt)
Many thanks for your efforts. Very much appreciate it.
Ufff... This charging teaser.. I'm so excited!
testet one today and must bravo, THIS IS A GREAT CAR!
Great work Björn!
Nice that someone else sees the SAAB lines :-) Said that from the first day they displayed it in the Polestar office.
The successor of the Saab 9-3 OG, finally;-)
This auto steer deactivation if not responsive is a very good safety feature. I really disagree how other cars just disable and the car just goes anywhere.
FIGHTTHECABLE in my pre facelift Tesla, if you ignore the final warning, it sets off the hazard warning indicators, then brings the car to a standstill within the lane. That was one of the reasons I bought the car. It also requires you to bring the car to a complete stop before you can re-engage it. I think are both a good thing. I do like that the P2 starts a series of short, violent, braking to wake you up. Great idea.
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It is a good idea, though I hope it is traffic aware!
Thanks for this test. Appreciate your work.
Good one with the numberplate obviously paying homage to the classic Volvo PV 544.
I just like the looks of this car. Something elegant about it.
It's a gorgeous car and definitely an alternative to the Model 3 for those who want it. I just am very surprised at the consumption and range.
I bet the lights can be adjusted with a software update since they're digital.
The car does have Matrix, adaptive lights. 84 LEDs individually controlled. So not only auto High/Dipped beam, but the camera identifies up to 5 cars in front (going in same direction or coming towards) and uses software to blank off those vehicles from the beam. So in some ways it doesn’t matter how high the beams shine, oncoming traffic should never be blinded. But I agree, on this car they do look too high.
Brilliant - finally a decent polestar review!! Interesting to compare £ v performance for SR model 3
This car is positioned against the Model3 LR AWD. Almost same price and acceleration. But over 300kg more mass and over 20% higher consumption.
@@kaasman78 The 0-60 acceleration may be the same but i bet 30-70mph ( i would argue more important and more relevant ) would be in favour of the model 3 AWD.
That low beam is crazy high, even the top of big signs is way too illuminated. If you drive it on a country road the oncoming traffic would be blinded, very strange setup and hopefully a one off case where the calibration is not right.
Pretty sure it has matrix led, so any field of vision that has oncoming cars or cars ahead of you would be dimmed down. It's quite common in newer cars. For Polestar 2, I think it's even "pixel leds", which means that it dims the exact area as well, so a full beam passes around the oncoming cars, but doesn't blind the driver. At least that's the theory. My Audi E-tron has the first stage of matrix led, and does in fact dim the areas with oncoming traffic. His findings in the video are a bit alarming.
RE: lights, at least from my understanding, then the LED matrix works when full beam is activated so you should just keep that on all the time. "High beam is on at all times and the system dims the lights for you."
No, the issue is that low beam are adjusted too high. Common issue on Polestar 2.
Bjørn Nyland yeah, but the Polestar has Active, adaptive Matrix LEDs, so using the camera and the radar to identify where other cars are, the software should completely blank off that part of the beam that hits other cars. I don’t see why any owner would choose to drive on manual lights when there was this option; particularly if the lights were set too high.
Michael Fulton sadly not. There is such a setting, but you have to actually select it. Just selecting High Beam doesn’t activate Active. Absolutely no idea why not. Seems an obvious thing to have designed in.
Very interesting review Bjorn. I was expecting good things from the Polestar but it didn't look so good. That's a shame. Thanks for doing all the tests Bjorn.
That's great info. Thanks, Bjorn!
No matter if you love or hate Tesla: it shows again how efficient and advanced the battery and drivetrain of Tesla is, especially Model 3 - a car which is on the market sind 2017!
Super cool charging teaser! Great music choice...
About consumption - wow, that`s insanely inefficient car... That`s etron territory right there... 230wh - Its so bad...I estimate 200km winter range on higway...(to have 5-10% margin)
I did notice that he was driving around without one pedalled driving on at all. This ultimately reduces the range and most tests use the standard setting and Tesla tests also use it.
@@farfromsensibletv How does one pedal driving reduce the range if you drive constant speed ?
@@TschingisTube its doesnt
@@bollebob1991 Yes, this was my intented statement 😊
I wonder if the long time to reach 100% at 3:44, as it's going up and down is BMS doing cell balancing.
😊⚡👍 Nice test as always, Bjørn! Keep it up.
Yeah seems like they all still have the beta software. That explains a lot. Big update supposedly coming week 36.
The real ninja can even wait 131mins to get 99,999% of charge!
You guys took away the record for tallest wooden building. We had it first in Bergen. :P
I thought that the Polestar had LED matrix headlights, they are supposed to switch off the segments that would be directed towards oncoming traffic. If I remember correctly it was meant to be able to cope with up to five oncoming cars, it was one of the features that impressed me in the launch video...
It does.
The cars have been delivered without someone checking the lights. Early buyers have to visit the shop to get them aligned properly, for free of course.
Hej, Why does it show 7% when you start charging? 16:08
Because I charged to 7 %.
@@bjornnyland okej, was it that simple, i thought charger and car where giving other numbers :D. Thanks for the replay.
0:46 Well, you did say the Polestar 2 was *thirsty*.
Thanks Björn! Great video! I have the exact same P2 model and also the same noise from the steering wheel. I will claim that more easily now when you recorded it so thanks again!
I have a plan to test if lighter alloy wheels will add to the range. About 5Kg per wheel probably. What would you guess that could do for the range? I heard from an etron owner that it gave 40km so I assume something similar. Let's see...
Forgot to mention.... My lowbeam is OK from factory. I've had several Volvo cars before with LED headlights and the Polestar pixel headlights are impressive and far the best I've had. Allthouh the "Auto Highbeam" is not yet working because of a bug I guess. Finally I also have problems with the charging limit not working. Even if it is set to 80% the charge proceeds to 100%. Also a bug I assume.
Lighter wheels won't do much for range. It's mostly about tire width and rim design - if the rim has a good aero design. Case in point - Model 3 18" wheels with aero wheel caps is around 2-4% more efficient than without caps. With caps they obviously are even slightly heavier.
The Volvo XC 40 is on the same platform
Hi Bjørn, when will you do a range test on the Polestar 2?
When will you subscribe to my channel?
Bjørn Nyland Sorry, I couldn’t resist 😂. Great test by the way. Too bad the entertainment system is so buggy. I’m thinking of an P2 for my next car.
Can the colour of the ambient light be changed?
Wheels and weight shrugs of a good portion of the range, probably, and obviously aerodynamics. I hope you do a Model 3 Long Range with aero wheels soon, would be nice to see it compared to 3P and Polestar 2.
Just adjust the head lights down its manual adjustment
No it's not possible on this car
When im trying to play dab in my tm3 at underground parking or in tunnels it wont play. Do anybody knows why?
Wernt the lights suposed to switch off the leds that were pointing at another car?
Isn't Polestar 2 based on a ICE platform (XC40)? If so, does it make it a real BV?
it's the CMA architecture (the M is for modular) which does not have constraints based on drive train.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Modular_Architecture_platform
Only the wheelbase and peddlebox is fixed, everything else (like drive train) is modular.
But it was first used for ICE cars, so you're not completely wrong!
@Börn; waiting for your comment on new Maingau - Ionity pricing model
he did a day or two ago on facebook.
I cried....a bit 😉
Run your tears through a hydro turbine and you get free kWh of electricity to charge your car :D
@@bjornnyland potential energy per tear = 0,025g * 9.8 *1.72m (I'm not that long). = 0,42 J
0,42 * 0,000000277777778 = 0,00000011666666676 kWh per tear
So I need 493714285319 tears to get an extra 80% SoC for my Model3 LR AWD.
That's around 12 million liters or 12000m³.
Guess I have to cry me a river 😂.
Sheeeeet!
My '55 ain't got nuff space for a Kaplan OR Pelton....
What if I use a usb fan in reverse for the front motor and handheld PV feeding on the ambient lighting for the rear?
Ionity, shame on U, now we have to geek up all kinds of alternatives!
Bummer, if Bjørn managed to get some ODB2 diagnostics it would've been the perfect test.
EB... NeinNeinNeinNeinNein!
@@Haldexify Warum nicht?
1:55
The first time I charged my Model 3 SR+ to 100%, it took almost an hour from 99% to 100%. I have only done it once since and the time estimate was more accurate so I guess it just had to calibrate the system.
That rattling sounded like electrical arching from bsd connection. Not a good sound...
No, it's plastic rattling.
I don't see how regen limit proves that there is no top buffer on the battery. It would make sense that if you have a top buffer you would not make use of this for regen charging either. What it proves is that the car (like most) have no power dump other than the battery.
Another thing pointing towards no top buffer is that it charges very slow towards 100 %.
Hi, thanks for entertaining and educating videos. I've just received my Polestar 2, and had a trip with it on a route I've done many times before with other cars. What puzzled me is that the consumption is way higher than what I expected and only approx 60% !? of the calculated range (Polestars range calculator at their web site) for the given temp and driving conditions (5C and countryside roads). What also puzzled me was just before setting of on the trip, the SOC dropped from approx 60% to around 40% during a couple of km's... and when i halfway into the drive charged the car from SOC 8% to 90%, the car only received 44,9 kWh (delivery report from energy company). Are there any known bugs/issues with the BMS on these cars, giving off completely wrong SOC?
"It's dangling"... Because it's just done peeing LOL 😂
Regarding the boot: RTFM. One "kick" in the center will do the trick :)
WTFW: th-cam.com/video/-Mtn-OzXABA/w-d-xo.html
Bjørn Nyland You’re sweeping, not kicking! :) One kick does the trick.
"Is peeing" :D same what our toddler said few days ago while we were supercharging :D:D
Looks kinda good but nothing beats the taycan 😍
If you can afford it, for sure.
Could it have been the tirepressure or different wheels that account for the difference in kilometers calculated?
No, it's just how some cars are set up. If you watch my other videos, you will for example see that most Teslas over-report distance by about 1 %. And I-Pace under-reports distance by as much as 2.7 %.
No, a difference of that scale would be true only if you mount a wheel outside the car specs
I would love to see this car next to a Tesla Model 3, just to get an idea of the size of this Polestar (which is, accroding to specs, way higher).
According to the specs the Polestar 2 , compared to the model 3 is : 8.8cm shorter ,4.9cm narrower (body), 3.6 cm higher and has a 1.1cm higher ground clearance. Overall it's very similar to a model 3 externally and internally (saves the boot and frunk that are definately bigger in the model 3).
The P2 dimension can be founds here : www.polestar-forum.com/threads/polestar-2-dimensions.299/
@@Haldexify polestar 2 height 1479mm , model 3 1443mm = 36mm of difference. The Polestar 2 does indeed look much bigger because the boxy shape of polestar vs sloping roof in the model 3 and the first also looks o much higher because of the optical illusion of the side black skirting , and you do in fact sit far higher than the tesla (because of the CMA architecture) but it's not that big , in fact inside, the cabin space is more or less the same.
@@Haldexify Nothing to be sorry about, in the end the seat of the Polestar is around 6cm higher than the model 3 plus if you consider that the polestar 2 side windows are very short , to the point that its the lower margin should roughly start at half height of a model 3 windows, no wonder that, if you overtake a polestar 2 ,feels like it's a truck in comparison .
The Polestar team did a good job at dissimulating it's size making you thinking it's a bigger and higher car that what it really is with :
Aggressive approach and departure angles, dark and thick side skirt , wheel arches and front splitter , and very short/narrow windows and windshield.
@@Haldexify I haven't tried the infotainment system in the Polestar 2 so far but from what i've seen I like the GUI of Android Automotive, and in the context of usage while driving so far i prefer it over model 3.
Nothing wrong with the model 3 , i think it's still the best one to use when the car is parked , but when driving , the simplified GUI , with big virtual buttons with high contrast ,simplified elements of android automotive ... I think it's more immediate and safe to use over the beautiful and minimalist Tesla interface , but i repeat , never driven the polestar 2 .
Hey do you guys know anything about hawtai hev230 car? Or yema ec70?
So, this might be a bit late. But I'm so close getting at Polestar 2, should I go for the Performance version or the standard? From what I've read the Performance version delivers lower range than the standard version? And the updates indicates that Polestar are working on the range and charging issues.
Great video
When Volvo detects due to driver inactivity, it disengages auto steer and does not do emergency stop like Polestar 2 does. At least that's how my wife's 2019 XC90 behaves.
Nice Bjørn Nice.
P2 is great choice for Norge 😀
when will you post a video on the Polestar charging session ?
You should subscribe to my channel.
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@@bjornnyland I am a long time subscriber
@Björn Nyland ,
Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed you didn't use one pedal driving. Could using it improve efficiency?
Thanks for your videos!
The contrary, using high regen in this testing will only lower the overall efficiency. This is because the round trip of cinetic energy->electricity->cinetic energy is around 64% (80% over 80%recovered) whereas if you decelerate simply "freewheeling" you'll conserve 100% of the kinetic energy (and you'll slow down slowly because friction losses) .
I switched between no regen and strongest regen. In downhill I coasted. This is probably why the efficiency on this video was better than the previous shorter test where I just regen down the hills in a different stretch.
Bjørn does the car get over the air update like tesla
Yes it does
Hi, My M3 LR RWD reaches 15kw/100km at 120kmh, compared to the P2.... That's bad... Very bad
So, at high speed, when long range is important, polestar 2 has a range a lot closer to model 3 Standard Range Plus than any model 3 with the big battery? And for long trips SuC would make model 3 SRP far better than polestar 2 in most instances.
Maybe you already tested it. But I’m very curious how the long trip planning works with multiple charging points on the route. And compare it with Tesla’s excellent multi charger long route planner.
I couldn't figure out how to add waypoints.
Bjørn Nyland, with all your experience, which EV car comes closest to as good built in long route planner that can plan a long route with multiple charging pints, if anyone? (Besides Tesla)
@@connynikolaisen8106 I'm not Bjørn but i would think that, if Polestar 2 Android automotive is able to get the Abetterouteplanner android APP , it may be a serious contender to the tesla planner.
What's the weight difference between the Model 3 and this car? At one point you said it was more similar to the Model S so shouldn't it be compared to the efficiency of the Model S? Good video. Thanks.
Check video description (google docs).
TSLA at 2000$ baby
Dam, was hoping the matrix led would be better than the Volvo active beam.
They may be - if properly adjusted.
Would love to see a m3 sr+ range test
?? th-cam.com/video/Gpvg2f7HyQs/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/h3UONSFD34s/w-d-xo.html he already covered plenty of the SR+
Normally cars have a wheel to adjust the headlights I'm surprised a new car doesn't have it. Even my rubbishy 1997 Fiat Punto had it
not since halogen went away, more powerful sources mean automatic levelling etc
Self leveling headlight calibration can still made manually but not in the cabin, you need to use a screwdriver on the headlights but it would be best to leave to a mechanic that usually have instruments to adjust the height at the appropriate .
Will you test the Aiways U5 any time soon? Is Aiways selling in Norway? MG ZS EV will finally be available in Germany soon, so more and more cars to choose from :)
Can you do a range test of the Model X LR+?
? If you are referring to the Model X Long Range Raven he already did it th-cam.com/video/Wu48rQ2vJms/w-d-xo.html
>buggy software
>rattles
>headlights out of alignment
"I won't buy a Tesla because it's got bad build quality, this is a Volvo so it'll be good quality!"
This should be a good lesson in why stereotypes are bad. Any new car can have issues straight out of the factory, not just Tesla's. 🤔
(Good tests btw Bjørn! Great to finally see some realistic results online about the car!)
but... it's not a Volvo 😉 don't mess with marketing
I-Pace, e-tron and other "premium" EVs are also getting weird issues, black screens, unable to drive issues and similar things you wouldn't expect from an established car manufacturer. What I've concluded is that people who run away from Tesla thinking that other brands are issue free are getting unvanted surprises.
Ev cars are like video games, hurry to get them out, and try to fix all bugs later. But as long as they fix them resonably fast I dont mind.
@@bjornnyland Exactly. It's great to see other brands trying to make EVs, but it's crazy for people to assume any brand will be totally flawless.
EVs and modern cars in general are extremely software heavy, the amount of work required to create a seamless experience is underestimated. :)
So far Volvo has 3rd most recalls this year.
Oh SAAB, sob-sniff. I'm down to 1, a 9-5 wagon, RIP other 9-5, 9000, 900, 99. And my Father's 96 and 93. 50 years of SAABs in New York and Florida.
Only the truth, electric world needs DIN Bjorn.......no BS. Not bad car for sure. Ill stick with Tesla and Superchargers.
So when is the banana box test coming? :D
Any news on the ALL-NEW MG5 EV ?
A nice looking high spec car I was considering as my next buy ....but what a terrible range at higher speeds. It has completely put me off.
How do you not get bored waiting?!
I stay amused reading TH-cam comments from you guys.
@@bjornnyland 🤣
How long could it go at 150 km/h?
Usually Bjorn never performs 150km/h tests (as he's limited by road laws ) but you may check Nexmove channel, they are based in Germany and usually tests their EVs on the Autobhan and performs 90-120 and sometimes 150km/h range tests.
The headlights are probably set too high. Can be adjusted in any workshop.
This is a common issue on Polestar 2. Several other owners are experiencing the same problem.
You can't do that manually?
@@mattaut88 Each headlamp shall be adjustable. For this, a SEG is absolutely necessary for new vehicles. The 10 meter wall method is no longer up-to-date. This is also checked during general inspections. Headlamp manufacturers such as Hella have further information on their websites.
@@bjornnyland The adjustment of the headlamps should be checked by the workshop before a new car is delivered to the customer. At BMW, for example, this is explicitly requested on the handover certificate.
We need more evs in US
Why does the car have lower top speed then other ev
I wouldn't say 210km/h is slow. But, safety. Who needs to go faster than that...
My God, the tire noise drumming on the pavement was driving me nuts! What were the tire pressures set to? Maybe too hard in order to try to get longer range but sacrificing ride quality and quietness. Don't know without knowing what the pressures were. Hey, Bjorn! Does the Polestar have a screen to show you tire pressures???
Tire pressure was of course as recommended. Check out the noise test here:
th-cam.com/video/HHi788pzWiE/w-d-xo.html
one thumb up for proper parking. You see Bjorn can park like a man! 😆
Watch and learn: th-cam.com/video/_6ekfGd-PZs/w-d-xo.html
That's what SHE Said!
An off topic question: the only con for Tesla seems to be the lack of a decent fit&finnishmin combination with a poor quality control at the assembly plant. Has Elon Musk or any other Tesla executive adressed this issue? Why aren’t thing beeing improved? What are the reasons for these quality issues? Please no answers that they need to produce a lot of cars in a short period of time. The cars have been produced for quite some time now... Do you really expect this to be solved by german made cars? Just curious...
13:21 Marvin for te win!
I want polestar 2 charging test 😃
So...over 20% more consumption and a whopping 350ish kg heavier. It's a good looking car, but Model3 is a way better EV.
I have seen a couple of articles today indicating that the Polestar 2 "runs on fumes" for 10 miles after reaching 0 miles estimated range. Did you factor this into your range test Bjorn?
So does a tesla.
It's also shouldn't be factored in since its such a unknown.
This is a standard test he does the same way for evey car
No. I never test or count on anything past 0 % on any EVs. If you have watched my channel, you would have seen that I have run out of juice several times when going too close or a little bit past 0 %. Going there is like Russian roulette.
Nothing wrong with the charging speed. Watch the next video about it.
Design over safety for others!
Hva kostet det å lade bilen i 2 timer?
The price is per kWh, not time based.
@@bjornnyland Sucks that Maingau is changing rates from September...bye bye 34 cent/kWh 😭
1:56 EB NO NO NO NO NO in German :D
The new Saab 900. It’s a nice car nevertheless...
"Well, Model 3... charges faster... has more range... and what else"
That seems to be the only positive aspects many reviewers conclude with.
That's a few pros with Model 3 I could think of. But if you know this channel you of course now all the advantages with Model 3 vs Polestar 2.
@@bjornnyland You forgot the Superchargers network! To complete the holy trinity of Tesla
What else counts when you buy a Tesla?
Amin!
@@TheSteinbitt Everytime someone says Tesla has "autonomous driving" I cringe so bad. Stop claiming that, idiots sleep while using it and literally kill themselves and other people. Polestar also has over the air updates.
I like cars made in a modern and free society.
I don't think you should diss the US in that way.
I’ve read 0% on the polestar is not really 0%, it has a built in buffer that allows about 10miles more range.
Like, ahem, every other EVs? that can't be counted on as it's not reliable and it's mainly meant to reach a safe spot/emergency charger.
Tesla, Leaf and some other EVs also has a buffer past 0 %. But I never test past 0 % because you can never guarantee it will have any. I have run out of juice several times. It's in my channel. I don't recommend anyone trying to go past 0 %. That's why I never test past 0 %.
About the same as my model 3 sr+. Not that good...
But you bought one.
@@ted_maul I mean it's not that good that is goes about as far as my model 3 that has a 409 km wltp range. This car has a 470 km wltp range and a 50 percent larger battery. It should do better. Personally with a Tesla all you really need is getting between Superchargers, the rest is just luxury
That doesn't make sense. We know the P2 isn't as efficient as the Tesla, but you bought a car with the same range as the P2 and you're happy with it. Car buyers make their decision on a number of factors.
@@ted_maul I don't think you understand. The model 3 sr+ has a 50kWh battery. The polestar 2 has a whopping 78kWh battery. Both go the same distance. Polestar thus costs more to charge, more expensive battery in case of replacement, heavier battery (tires wear out quicker), worse for environnement......
@@insevanhouts I understand perfectly well mate. As I already explained, not everyone buys cars based on the criteria of a spreadsheet. People have different priorities. For example, If I want panel gaps I can see from space and a car ranked dead last in JD Power's reliability survey I'll buy a Tesla. If not, I might choose something else, and compromise on range.
"Tyres wear out quicker" - thanks for the laugh, that's great.