God put the movie in the hands of the devil because the movie was blasphemy XD P.S. I love Dogma its my favorite Kevin Smith film and def my favorite Religion-themed movie.
@@preposterousrhinocerous9951 it's so awesome how even the cameos take potshots at expectations. In the initial scene, where Loki convinces a nun to become an atheist, that nun was played by Betty Aberlin, who to my generation was "Lady Aberlin" on Mr Rogers :D (she did small roles in a few of Kevin's later films as well)
@@preposterousrhinocerous9951 My mom who is an ex-Catholic and ex-Christian didn't know what the movie was about exactly and didn't want to see it. I made her watch it, and she loved it!
@@riverplate0101 one of the biggest problems with sexual assault is that the victims feel like it's their fault and don't tell anyone until it's too late to prove, its much more likely than not that he didn't hear anything worse than what he said
he's honest to a point. he's not gonna blow his meal ticket. but yeah, he was pretty honest at first. in fact, I used to say Clerks was one of the most honest movies I ever saw. anybody who worked minimum wage would relate. But he's not gonna blaspheme the studio gods.
“I’m not the f-g story.” The joy of Kevin Smith is that he has humility and a rightheaded outlook, Combined with an unusual willingness to frankly examine his own emotions. He’s an American treasure, and shit like that.
they all had to have known about Harvey. Smitty's just downplaying it. pleading ignorance. just like how nobody "knew" Phillip Seymour Hoffman and, I'm shocked to hear, Owen Wilson liked playing with needles. the whole Frat Pack had to have known. for all I know they share needles. They don't care as long as they're making oodles of cash. Harvey was all those guys meal ticket. Didn't Uma Thurman tell QT about Harvs and he blew it off? suddenly everybody's shocked. acting...
I can't imagine a "Dogma" sequel without Alan Rickman... everyone in the cast was great, but Rickman just made it for me. "Sweet JESUS!! Did you have to use the whole can?!?!?"
I absolutely love and respect Kevin Smiths self awareness. One of the only directors who just make movies for fun, doesn’t care if he profits from them or if they are critically acclaimed, he’s just out there with his camera, fucking around.
nah. when his movies flop he takes it pretty hard. he really doesn't understand why his movies suck now. I think it's the Weed. I don't think he's reached that level where he can function stoned.
"My movie about angels is owned by the f*&king devil." That crushes me. "Dogma" was my gateway to Smith and to hear that Weinstein owns it makes me sick.
Honestly a dogma sequel, set in the world but nothing else, about the movie industry it called Faust about a movie maker signing a deal with the devil to get famous and then it works
@@Eyecyou64 yeah, it would be neat; use the angels as supporting plot elements and ultimately the betrayal of weinstein. Did weinstein appear to Kevin as a benevolent God of Hollywood ,a genie, or was he so desperate for his big break he signed in blood with the devil from the start?
People that hate on Kevin make me sick. This dude was such a major influence on my cinema experience. Right at an age where I started realizing there were movies outside of the major Hollywood blockbuster bullshit. Love this man and everything he’s made. Yes including Jersey Girl, Tusk, AND Yoga Hosers
I love Kevin simply because he tells the truth about life,he does not lie about HW .most people lie about HW because the do not want to be know that he was a friend
@@itheuserfirst3186 Ofc not but lots of Hollywood "elite" fawned and lick Weinsteins ass when he was on top and when #metoo hit they acted like they never heard of him. Smith doesn't try to whitewash that he did movies with Weinstein.
I highly doubt "Harmful Harvey" will live much longer. Hopefully when the 'ol dinosaur croaks the rights wll be easier to acquire from (whoever takes over) his estate & Kevin has time to do something for the 25th anniversary . . .
@@akkual Pope Francis would probably find it funny. The Catholic Church never had an issue with it. Just Phil Donahue and his "Catholic League" group, which is quite seriously just like 20 (mostly elderly) karens. They also admitted that none of them ever saw the movie, even though they were protesting it. They didn't even know what was in the movie.
Kevin might be the best public speaker of all time. So quick and off the cuff while reading and commanding a room. People who do that would be wise to study his style.
Maybe when the rights get worked out we can get a Dogma Criterion release. View Askew has always released great special editions and the Dogma special edition is already pretty great, I just think Kevin deserves more than one movie in the Criterion collection, and this or Clerks would definitely be a worthy addition!
This is possibly a bit contrary to what Smith said in the past. I recall on one of his podcasts a while back when he and Scott Mosier were talking about a potential Clerks 3, they mentioned that they were doing an independent audit of the Weinstien company over Clerks 2 royalties. Smith stated that he spoke with Bob because he refused to talk to Harvey anymore. Now, this could be due to an argument they had in 2011 during the Red State screening but Kevin said he heard some, if I recall right, horrible things about Harvey and he wouldn't deal directly with him anymore. I think this was around 2012. Back then it sounded like Smith had heard rumors. I can't seem to find any old podcasts available since they're all behind a paywall now, this is all just from memory so IDK.
I met him while hitchhiking through LA and I can honestly say for someone at 830 in the morning walking his dog, to take time out his day and talk to me, a fan, was absolutely beautiful. I got to geek out with my favorite director about spiderman, my favorite super hero, before he bought me an uber to the edge of LA city. Honestly best day of my life
I gotta be honest, he kept saying who knew? Everyone knew, it was an open secret, but since everyone wanted something from him everyone turned a blind eye.
I feel like most people probably knew but there are also people who live in a bubble and don't take note of things not directly related to themselves. It's hard for emphatic people to comprehend this but there are many people walking around who don't know and don't care about what other people are doing.
I'm sure a lot of people who knew would have also been risking their own careers and livelihoods by stepping to him. This man had a LOT of power. It's easy to say in hindsight (and for future reference) that that's no excuse, and it's not, but I'm sure it's not as simple as "people knew and they didn't say anything."
Knowing is one thing. Having suspicions is another. Either way, proving anything is the hard part. People could have spoken up, but they would likely have been crushed and their careers ruined if they couldn't provide any evidence.
I feel he had to have heard more. I remember watching that Jon Favreau show Dinner for 5 & the chick from Chasing Amy said something about Harvey. Where's her career today?
@@themagictheatre2965 It's possible they knew, but it's also possible that they had heard rumors and dismissed them and it only became a clear picture when it all came out, that "I should have realised" moment.
@@daved2352 Joey Lauren Adams was one of the leads of one of Smith's movies. Do you really think that she would feel comfortable saying something on a television show like Dinner For Five but not to her director? If you think that, you don't understand the film industry. The director is the first one to know when stuff like that happens. There is nobody the actors trust more than their directors. That's how we know Tarantino knew, because he confronted Weinstein about it, but failed to go public because he is a despicable coward.
Even at award shows people talked bad about Harvey, but more like he was an asshole. Everyone seemed to know he was an ass and a philanderer - I seriously doubt he advertised that he was a rapist. Just not sure where that would come up in conversation.
@@TitoTimTravels "I seriously doubt he advertised that he was a rapist." His victims did though. Many of them told people. And the ones that chose to tell people had their careers ended by Weinstein and his goon squad. And fuckers like Smith and Tarantno did nothing. Joey Lauren Adams and Mira Sorvino were both promising young actors with bright futures who disappeared into obscurity because they were preyed upon by Harvey and had the sheer nerve to tell people about it. And there are dozens more just like them. And all of their directors knww. Because when you are an actor and you get raped and tell people, one of those people is going to be the director.
Makes since about Dogma, I worked at video thrift stores on and off for 4 years and I’ve only seen three copies of that movie; people won’t let those dvds go. I have customers still asking for a copy of it.
he owns jay and bob and the characters were in a way public domain (Jesus, Satan etc) he can just create a new alagoric plot add some new angels with new cast members. Call something else and everyone will know what it is
Rufus is the big problem for that. Plus Alan Rickman is dead now. No Rufus, no Rickman........ you gotta have those 2 guys. No go. Clerks 3 is right there for the taking. Kidnap Jeff Anderson, if you have to.
@@charleebrown7188 not necessarily, Kevin Smith took Medatron from DC's Sandman, just have two new Angeles like method man and Redman make it about the devil cast Patrick Stewart etc do a preacher like story. It's Christan theology lots more characters to choose.
@@charleebrown7188 clerks 3 is dead cause of Disney owning the rights to Dante and Randal. You could still do it just name everything different and hope when Jay and Bob show up, that Disney doesn't sue Kevin Smith for ripping off Kevin Smith.
I love Kevin Smith's films. At least he's transparent about why there's not movie or sequel. How much does it cost to get the rights to the movie? That would be interesting to know.
Im not happy with WHY there isnt a Dogma Sequel but I am kinda glad there isnt, that movie is so freaking good I love that its this self contained thing.
In all my years listening to Smith's podcasts you can really tell that Kevin is a sweet and genuine person, however with all due respect to Kevin he really didn't come across as the worlds most perceptive person to put it lightly. If anyone involved with Weinstein was truly unaware of who he really was it would most likely be Kevin.
@@Eric-uy7ee This is my impression as well. Kevin was easily dazzled by people (to the point of being kind of naive), and plus, he was never a part of the "inner circle" that people like Tarantino, Affleck, and Damon were (despite the fact that they were all acquaintences of Smith). He was always on the outside, looking in. I'm not sure he ever had a conversation with Weinstein that lasted more than ten minutes, given how many of Smith's stories about him pretty much consist of brief interactions.
Kevin definitely has my sympathies along with pretty much everyone else that Harvey wronged over the years which every time I hear his name becomes an even longer list. I hope at some point Kevin gets the ownership of his old movies back so he can decide whether to rerelease them so people can enjoy them or keep them to himself so that people don't have to think about Harvey anymore.
Technically, Dogma is the third part in the ADGTH franchise. Or at least it is in my imagination :P (ngl, I wanna see a version of Dogma where Charlie and Itchy are Bartleby and Loki)
He should do a movie called "Amgod" and it should be about a quest to get a Dogma sequel going, against a powerful movie producer who thinks "I am god".
I would love to see Kevin get the rights to Dogma back somehow and release it digitally, who knows maybe when the Weinstin Brothers are gone from this earth in a weird twist Kevin is able to buy the rights to his movie back
Well this explains so much. Now... How am I gonna explain Dogma to my sister ? I wanted to do like a marathon to then watch the new movie. But without Dogma, I don't think she is gonna enjoy it as much :(
I was going to do that too, the marathon then the new movie. Just look for Dogma on YT, a quick search turned this up, maybe it's real: th-cam.com/video/I5UjfvF917k/w-d-xo.html
@@dianem8544 even that one (with good audio) is missing like half of the image because they did a close up to be able to upload it. Each and every one of them has been distorted somehow.
@@Norimarisu Oh no, that sucks. But better a distorted version than you sitting someone down and trying to explain? You're right, it would be HARD to do that with Dogma!
People are people. Every single one of us is a monster. It's the damn truth. Even if you met an extremely successful person who just seemed to be the greatest person in the world, would probably tell you about all the bad and illegal things they'd done in their lives, but the difference between them and the guy in prison, was getting caught. That's it. That's all that really separates us. Some things people have done may be worse than others, but we're all gray.
Cool...what's interesting is this was suggested after another video of Smith making comments about Weinstein...except, he tells a story where they interacted at the premiere of Red State. So his timeline is wrong or he's just making things up to sound cool. I suspect the latter as his story about Prince turned out to be completely untrue.
Although I love Kevin, I think he's being a bit disingenuous here - the rumours within Hollywood went far beyond that of him being a 'philanderer' at the time. It was an open secret he'd been assaulting and taking advantage of people and Kevin would have known of this.
You'd be amazed at how easily that stuff is covered up unless you just happen to know the right ppl. I wouldn't necessarily absolve Kevin Smith here, but I wouldn't necessarily assume automatically that he knew. That being said, philanderers with money and power like that seem to ignore the need for consent so it wasn't really a leap from one to the other and that shouldn't have been as "shocking" as Smith says here.
There must be a way to get dogma back though, there's gotta be some kind of legal trickery you can throw around and get the rights thrown back. And if not, if Kevin Smith made a film starred Jay and silent Bob about religion and told us all its Definitely not a sequel to Dogma, we'd know. Like how he confirmed that Justin long in Jay and Bob reboot is playing the same character from Zack and Miri.
Several people in hollywood have said that EVERYONE in hollywood knew about weinstein. So I find it quiet incredible that somehow it missed Kevin's ears.
He told you in the video. The point was that he was testing out who knew what, and who had talked to the press. He knew that Kevin likely wouldn't have talked to him if he knew, or would have at least told him off. Smith and Weinstein did not part ways very amicably, and Weinstein likely thought Kevin had heard something after their public falling out.
Dude has done a complete 180 in his life. Eats ridiculously healthy (I think he's even a vegan now?), exercises, and is super conscientious about everything he puts in his body.
It’s amazing that Kevin didn’t realize instantly that Harvey was manipulating him when the article broke. He’s really still such a naive person after all these years in Hollywood.
He’s not someone who likes to think the worst about people. He has also admitted that his relationship with Harvey is complicated - he had issues with him even before the scandal broke, for personal and business reasons, but he also acknowledges that Harvey put him on and changed his life.
I haven't watched Dogma in years, but I wonder if I could even enjoy it now, especially the parts with Salma Hayek. It's awful what he put her through. Even though she so beautiful and has such sex appeal, I can't help but think Weinstein really just wanted her in those roles for his own amusement, just to see her as a stripper. It would just be one more power play over her. Also I can't help but think of what she wrote about feeling Stockholm Syndrome and wanting to impress him, and how Kevin Smith has expressed similar feelings about him, like being a 40-year-old man and still seeking his approval. There's this guy that seems like God and has all this power and opens all these doors, and everyone plays down all the stories and accusations, and he seems to be genuinely interested in looking out for you and helping your career. And then you find out it was all mind games and power plays.
Forgive me but you're kind of forgetting the part where Kevin is the one who wrote the script, including that character, including that scene. What she was doing there went right to the heart of who she was as character at that point in her existence, her relationship to mortal men. I'm not trying to say like oh so it's Kevin's fault and he was being gross, just that that's how the sequence would've been played no matter who the actress was they cast. And while obviously I can't speak for Hayek, but I don't think there was anything necessarily there that would've made her as an actress feel overly degraded, part of the point is how much and easily she plays the men for fools.
Is Harvey broke yet? Can we crowd source buying Dogma yet? Or make it a movie. Jay and Silent Bob kidnap Harvey for revenge for his victims but also getting dogma. This could work. I can see Jay trying to waterboard H but fumbling it and its a mild inconvenience. Lol
While making that movie would be in poor taste for a variety of reasons, that was really creative. I'm genuinely kind of impressed. As for your question, I doubt Weinstein is anywhere near broke. He was probably one of the richer people in Hollywood when he was arrested. I'm pretty sure he's lost more than half of his wealth since all this happened (mostly due to his divorce), but he likely still has over 50 million. I would say wait for the inevitable civil suits to bankrupt him, so that Dogma has to be sold off to pay his debt, but Weinstein is likely to die in prison before this happens. The guy was physically falling apart before he was sentenced, and now it's even worse.
"My movie about angels is owned by the devil".
He can even make art out of artistic disappointments. A true poet.
Beautiful Sadness
God put the movie in the hands of the devil because the movie was blasphemy XD
P.S. I love Dogma its my favorite Kevin Smith film and def my favorite Religion-themed movie.
@@preposterousrhinocerous9951 You had me in the first half, not gonna lie. XD
@@preposterousrhinocerous9951 it's so awesome how even the cameos take potshots at expectations. In the initial scene, where Loki convinces a nun to become an atheist, that nun was played by Betty Aberlin, who to my generation was "Lady Aberlin" on Mr Rogers :D (she did small roles in a few of Kevin's later films as well)
@@preposterousrhinocerous9951 My mom who is an ex-Catholic and ex-Christian didn't know what the movie was about exactly and didn't want to see it. I made her watch it, and she loved it!
I like how he doesn’t hide anything. A true person, you can just tell he’s honest.
I really like this dude.
@@MrJimShorts He's hit or miss but definitely more hit than miss.
He's brutally honest person. That's why I like him.
Or maybe, he is trying to make himself look good. No crime there. Ya. Like he never heard of anything. Ya right.
@@riverplate0101 one of the biggest problems with sexual assault is that the victims feel like it's their fault and don't tell anyone until it's too late to prove, its much more likely than not that he didn't hear anything worse than what he said
he's honest to a point. he's not gonna blow his meal ticket. but yeah, he was pretty honest at first. in fact, I used to say Clerks was one of the most honest movies I ever saw. anybody who worked minimum wage would relate. But he's not gonna blaspheme the studio gods.
“I’m not the f-g story.” The joy of Kevin Smith is that he has humility and a rightheaded outlook, Combined with an unusual willingness to frankly examine his own emotions. He’s an American treasure, and shit like that.
they all had to have known about Harvey. Smitty's just downplaying it. pleading ignorance. just like how nobody "knew" Phillip Seymour Hoffman and, I'm shocked to hear, Owen Wilson liked playing with needles. the whole Frat Pack had to have known. for all I know they share needles. They don't care as long as they're making oodles of cash. Harvey was all those guys meal ticket. Didn't Uma Thurman tell QT about Harvs and he blew it off? suddenly everybody's shocked. acting...
@@robzilla730 I agree with everything you said except the Phillip Seymour Hoffman part. Even those very close to him had no idea he had relapsed
@@boscopappas234 I have no respect for anybody who plays with needles...
@@robzilla730 You mean like phlebotomists?
@@boscopappas234 I used to be one. Lol
I can't imagine a "Dogma" sequel without Alan Rickman... everyone in the cast was great, but Rickman just made it for me. "Sweet JESUS!! Did you have to use the whole can?!?!?"
Just the part where he tries to clean his shirt is the best
Rickman was a phone book actor, and what I mean by that is he was so good I would watch him read the phone book.
Ah man I forgot he passed away :( such a shame he was so good
*spots blood on shirt*
"It never ends!"
No Carlin either & I don't think Linda acts any longer. Fun fact: her sister was married to Gary Oldham. 2 sons together.
People who own Dogma on physical media: you now have a moral obligation to rip and upload it.
pretty sure it's been available online since it came out tbh
It's on TH-cam
Its been on TH-cam for a while
I absolutely love and respect Kevin Smiths self awareness. One of the only directors who just make movies for fun, doesn’t care if he profits from them or if they are critically acclaimed, he’s just out there with his camera, fucking around.
nah. when his movies flop he takes it pretty hard. he really doesn't understand why his movies suck now. I think it's the Weed. I don't think he's reached that level where he can function stoned.
"My movie about angels is owned by the f*&king devil." That crushes me. "Dogma" was my gateway to Smith and to hear that Weinstein owns it makes me sick.
I think Kevin should do a story about Faust and how he makes a deal with the devil to find power. Since it happened in his life.
Honestly a dogma sequel, set in the world but nothing else, about the movie industry it called Faust about a movie maker signing a deal with the devil to get famous and then it works
@@Eyecyou64 a Faust allegory for Dogma 2 would be brilliant and fitting especially since the devil himself owns the original film.
@@te9591 Exactly!
@@te9591 The movie would really be about Kevin Smith's relationship with Weinstein but just switching out the characters and I'm sure tweaked a lil
@@Eyecyou64 yeah, it would be neat; use the angels as supporting plot elements and ultimately the betrayal of weinstein. Did weinstein appear to Kevin as a benevolent God of Hollywood ,a genie, or was he so desperate for his big break he signed in blood with the devil from the start?
I think Kevin Smith is hands down one of the greatest story tellers that has ever lived.
I really appreciate him for speaking on Harvey. Kevin's always keeping it real.
“my movie about angels is owned by the devil” is such a great freaking line
I always wondered why we never got a sequel to Dogma... to me that was always the best in the view-askew universe!
I guess that's why I can't find Dogma on blu ray for a decent price...
Can't find it on Blu-ray for any price lol
@@ElliottTrout You can, but I am not paying 100€ for a single Blu-ray, especially if I can't be sure if it is original or a bootleg.
@@andreasvogler1875 it's not real because it's never been released in HD. You're wasting your money if you buy it.
@@ElliottTrout Actually it was, but since the license ran out years ago, it's sold out everywere.
@@andreasvogler1875 nah man, the Blu Ray never existed, only DVD and that's not HD. Best you'll find is 480p
People that hate on Kevin make me sick. This dude was such a major influence on my cinema experience. Right at an age where I started realizing there were movies outside of the major Hollywood blockbuster bullshit. Love this man and everything he’s made. Yes including Jersey Girl, Tusk, AND Yoga Hosers
Red state put him on A whole other level too
Why do people hate on him?
I love Kevin simply because he tells the truth about life,he does not lie about HW .most people lie about HW because the do not want to be know that he was a friend
People are not responsible for other people's dark secrets.
First, you are so right. Could not have said it better.
Lmao
@@itheuserfirst3186 Ofc not but lots of Hollywood "elite" fawned and lick Weinsteins ass when he was on top and when #metoo hit they acted like they never heard of him. Smith doesn't try to whitewash that he did movies with Weinstein.
Ahem, Jennifer Lawrence and Meryl Streep for example....
Kevin Smith really knows how to tell a good story well. Builds up interest, saves the best part until the end...like he's pitching a movie.
Lmao backwards hat, suit jacket, denim shorts and slip ons. Kevin Smith's style is wild.
And he bought all of that recently, because the stuff from the 90s sure doesn't fit anymore!
And it looks like he wears it in every public appearance, lol.
I highly doubt "Harmful Harvey" will live much longer. Hopefully when the 'ol dinosaur croaks the rights wll be easier to acquire from (whoever takes over) his estate & Kevin has time to do something for the 25th anniversary . . .
He will be sued in civil court by his accusers/victims and it’ll be sold to pay that debt
@@ace448 ...and I hope Kevin can buy it. Not sure how much it would be, though.
Pope will buy it and make sure it will be never ever again shown anywhere. Glad that I have the DVD.
@@akkual Pope Francis would probably find it funny. The Catholic Church never had an issue with it. Just Phil Donahue and his "Catholic League" group, which is quite seriously just like 20 (mostly elderly) karens. They also admitted that none of them ever saw the movie, even though they were protesting it. They didn't even know what was in the movie.
"who knew?" Everybody knew, that's the point; if they had the courage 20 years ago, a lot of people would have been saved a lot of pain.
I feel that most of the people who worked with him turned a blind eye.
The Ronan Farrow podcast goes into his power he hired former Mussad.
Man, I'm glad I bought the 2-disc edition back in the day and still have it.
I've got it, too.
Dogma is on TH-cam
@@ThirteenAmp , if you look for it all you find bad quality flipped versions of Dogma composed of 200 clips.
I am not sure if I have it. Maybe.
I know I’ve got JaSBSB. Hm.
Same here! That thick plastic double dvd case!
Kevin might be the best public speaker of all time. So quick and off the cuff while reading and commanding a room. People who do that would be wise to study his style.
I'll give him that. he's a raconteur. he could out-talk Mark Twain at a campfire. just wish he could translate that into better movies 🎬 🎞 🎥
@@robzilla730
If you don't enjoy J and Silent Bob reboot, I'm suspicious about your character.
@@PlayNiceFolks didn't see it. Lost interest by then. At their ages still doing that shtick is just sad. Like Dane cook.
People can still enjoy his storytelling while acknowledging that his recent output has been extremely hit or miss.
Maybe when the rights get worked out we can get a Dogma Criterion release. View Askew has always released great special editions and the Dogma special edition is already pretty great, I just think Kevin deserves more than one movie in the Criterion collection, and this or Clerks would definitely be a worthy addition!
We need a remaster of CHASING AMY first. We're still waiting for new DVD & Blu-rays of that first.
This is possibly a bit contrary to what Smith said in the past. I recall on one of his podcasts a while back when he and Scott Mosier were talking about a potential Clerks 3, they mentioned that they were doing an independent audit of the Weinstien company over Clerks 2 royalties. Smith stated that he spoke with Bob because he refused to talk to Harvey anymore. Now, this could be due to an argument they had in 2011 during the Red State screening but Kevin said he heard some, if I recall right, horrible things about Harvey and he wouldn't deal directly with him anymore.
I think this was around 2012. Back then it sounded like Smith had heard rumors. I can't seem to find any old podcasts available since they're all behind a paywall now, this is all just from memory so IDK.
Kevin Smith is such a genuine, cool dude.
I met him while hitchhiking through LA and I can honestly say for someone at 830 in the morning walking his dog, to take time out his day and talk to me, a fan, was absolutely beautiful. I got to geek out with my favorite director about spiderman, my favorite super hero, before he bought me an uber to the edge of LA city. Honestly best day of my life
Kevin Smith is so fucking awesome. I could listen to him tell stories all day long.
I always assumed some of Ben Affleck's characters in Kevin Smith's movies (in Mallrats in particular) were based on Harvey Weinstein.
I gotta be honest, he kept saying who knew? Everyone knew, it was an open secret, but since everyone wanted something from him everyone turned a blind eye.
I agrre
Sorry, I'm drunk. I agree.
I feel like most people probably knew but there are also people who live in a bubble and don't take note of things not directly related to themselves. It's hard for emphatic people to comprehend this but there are many people walking around who don't know and don't care about what other people are doing.
I'm sure a lot of people who knew would have also been risking their own careers and livelihoods by stepping to him. This man had a LOT of power. It's easy to say in hindsight (and for future reference) that that's no excuse, and it's not, but I'm sure it's not as simple as "people knew and they didn't say anything."
Knowing is one thing. Having suspicions is another. Either way, proving anything is the hard part. People could have spoken up, but they would likely have been crushed and their careers ruined if they couldn't provide any evidence.
Dogma is usually posted on you tube with Spanish subtitles. It's not grade A quality, but you can watch the movie.
It's easily torrented as well.
Wow, I had no idea that my collectors copy of Dogma in dvd is that much of a collectors item.
is he ever going to buy clothes that fit him now that he's thin?
Seriously, he looks like David Byrne in that thing.
Thats his gimmick
Evan O Quigley still wearing the fat clothes 😂🤣
When you lose a lot of weight you have a lot of loose skin, he probably doesnt want to wear anything too fitting yet.
The _real_ question is how he could find clothes that were too big for him when he was fat.
This makes me even happier I still have my Dogma 2 📀 Special Edition still.
I feel he had to have heard more. I remember watching that Jon Favreau show Dinner for 5 & the chick from Chasing Amy said something about Harvey. Where's her career today?
Yeah, they all knew. They are all liars.
@@themagictheatre2965 It's possible they knew, but it's also possible that they had heard rumors and dismissed them and it only became a clear picture when it all came out, that "I should have realised" moment.
@@daved2352 Joey Lauren Adams was one of the leads of one of Smith's movies. Do you really think that she would feel comfortable saying something on a television show like Dinner For Five but not to her director? If you think that, you don't understand the film industry. The director is the first one to know when stuff like that happens. There is nobody the actors trust more than their directors. That's how we know Tarantino knew, because he confronted Weinstein about it, but failed to go public because he is a despicable coward.
Even at award shows people talked bad about Harvey, but more like he was an asshole. Everyone seemed to know he was an ass and a philanderer - I seriously doubt he advertised that he was a rapist. Just not sure where that would come up in conversation.
@@TitoTimTravels "I seriously doubt he advertised that he was a rapist." His victims did though. Many of them told people. And the ones that chose to tell people had their careers ended by Weinstein and his goon squad. And fuckers like Smith and Tarantno did nothing. Joey Lauren Adams and Mira Sorvino were both promising young actors with bright futures who disappeared into obscurity because they were preyed upon by Harvey and had the sheer nerve to tell people about it. And there are dozens more just like them. And all of their directors knww. Because when you are an actor and you get raped and tell people, one of those people is going to be the director.
Makes since about Dogma, I worked at video thrift stores on and off for 4 years and I’ve only seen three copies of that movie; people won’t let those dvds go. I have customers still asking for a copy of it.
It's lucky the full version of Dogma is here on TH-cam lol and i can't see Weinstein getting on the Internet anytime soon to complain 😂
Can they not just like 'steal it back somehow'?
Like is the guy not basically bankrupt and with enough legal troubles already?
Found a Dogma DVD on ebay for $10 cant complain..
It's not that they never made any, they've just been out of print since that initial pressing . . .
I have a sealed DVD that I bought for 1€ from a flea market.
It's on TH-cam, its available, for free
Guys, upload that shit.
Same, It came and it was in Korean lol
I have never heard of this guy until today but I love him!
you never heard about Harvey?
he owns jay and bob and the characters were in a way public domain (Jesus, Satan etc) he can just create a new alagoric plot add some new angels with new cast members. Call something else and everyone will know what it is
Totally, call it Dogmatic. Kevin Smith presents Dogmatic, starring x, y, z...done deal.
Rufus is the big problem for that. Plus Alan Rickman is dead now. No Rufus, no Rickman........ you gotta have those 2 guys. No go. Clerks 3 is right there for the taking. Kidnap Jeff Anderson, if you have to.
@@charleebrown7188 not necessarily, Kevin Smith took Medatron from DC's Sandman, just have two new Angeles like method man and Redman make it about the devil cast Patrick Stewart etc do a preacher like story. It's Christan theology lots more characters to choose.
@@charleebrown7188 clerks 3 is dead cause of Disney owning the rights to Dante and Randal. You could still do it just name everything different and hope when Jay and Bob show up, that Disney doesn't sue Kevin Smith for ripping off Kevin Smith.
@@charleebrown7188 Did something change since late last year when Kevin announced they're doing Clerks 3?
Dogma is one of my favorite movies and I would love a sequel.
Why does every recommended Kevin Smith video on TH-cam have atrocious audio quality?
I’m glad I still have the collectors edition of dogma
Dogma is still hands down my favorite KS movie.
Kevin Smith...keeping the Demin shorts industry alive and well......
I love Kevin Smith's films. At least he's transparent about why there's not movie or sequel. How much does it cost to get the rights to the movie? That would be interesting to know.
I listened to an old podcast of Behind the Bastards last week.. and youtube starts recommending Kevin Smith monologues..
how are those two things related
Im not happy with WHY there isnt a Dogma Sequel but I am kinda glad there isnt, that movie is so freaking good I love that its this self contained thing.
Sequel would suck
I feel so old. I was in high school when dogma came out
Why not make a movie thats a Standalone but when you seen Dogma you know that it is the sequel. Word about it would be out in no time.
This Harvey Weinstein sounds like a real jerk.
The hypocrisy is the worst
@@Jahu-qs2us 😀 the raping is the worst
@@leswhynin913
let's be honest here...what is all that power worth if you can't
sexually harass people?
@@trufantom21 why would you want the power to sexually assault people?
Lmao classic norm mcdonald
Love Kevin! Dude's legit.
Love Kevin smith even more now.
I love you, Kevin Smith... ALWAYS had, forevermore will.
3:03 I dont work in hollywood, but it appeared that every FEMALE knew. PS: Great final statement for the vid.
So glad I got to see dogma on TV 3 times...wonder if I can track down a DVD or whatever
He looks healthy, I hope he stays that way.
0:47 Twilight reference haha
That rug really ties the stage together, does it not?
I bet Harvey would sell it at this point
I hope he has some more good films left in him, I miss a good Kevin Smith film.
Oh Kev, who knew? A lot of people know. A lot of people, it was an open secret at that point.
In all my years listening to Smith's podcasts you can really tell that Kevin is a sweet and genuine person, however with all due respect to Kevin he really didn't come across as the worlds most perceptive person to put it lightly. If anyone involved with Weinstein was truly unaware of who he really was it would most likely be Kevin.
@@Eric-uy7ee This is my impression as well. Kevin was easily dazzled by people (to the point of being kind of naive), and plus, he was never a part of the "inner circle" that people like Tarantino, Affleck, and Damon were (despite the fact that they were all acquaintences of Smith). He was always on the outside, looking in. I'm not sure he ever had a conversation with Weinstein that lasted more than ten minutes, given how many of Smith's stories about him pretty much consist of brief interactions.
Kevin definitely has my sympathies along with pretty much everyone else that Harvey wronged over the years which every time I hear his name becomes an even longer list. I hope at some point Kevin gets the ownership of his old movies back so he can decide whether to rerelease them so people can enjoy them or keep them to himself so that people don't have to think about Harvey anymore.
DOGMA 2 All Dogs go To Heaven
Technically, Dogma is the third part in the ADGTH franchise.
Or at least it is in my imagination :P
(ngl, I wanna see a version of Dogma where Charlie and Itchy are Bartleby and Loki)
Well, sort of a blessing, as Alan Rickman and George Carlin are dead and dogma 2 would feel very very empty without them
I'm so glad that I got _Dogma_ on DVD when I did.
Wonder if they can get it back?
Who let him leave the house dressed like that??
He did. He’s his own man with his own style
Smith never completely left the New Jersey shore, or the early 90s.
Wonder if Kevin will ever get it back,you know like paul McCartney getting his songs back after MJ passing. I hope he does
He should do a movie called "Amgod" and it should be about a quest to get a Dogma sequel going, against a powerful movie producer who thinks "I am god".
I would love to see Kevin get the rights to Dogma back somehow and release it digitally, who knows maybe when the Weinstin Brothers are gone from this earth in a weird twist Kevin is able to buy the rights to his movie back
Well this explains so much.
Now... How am I gonna explain Dogma to my sister ?
I wanted to do like a marathon to then watch the new movie. But without Dogma, I don't think she is gonna enjoy it as much :(
I was going to do that too, the marathon then the new movie. Just look for Dogma on YT, a quick search turned this up, maybe it's real:
th-cam.com/video/I5UjfvF917k/w-d-xo.html
@@dianem8544 even that one (with good audio) is missing like half of the image because they did a close up to be able to upload it.
Each and every one of them has been distorted somehow.
@@Norimarisu Oh no, that sucks. But better a distorted version than you sitting someone down and trying to explain? You're right, it would be HARD to do that with Dogma!
The ensemble ain't doing it Kev. Shorts and sport coat?
Ah duality..."my flick about angels is owned by the devil" ain't it a bitch
123movies people..
People are people. Every single one of us is a monster. It's the damn truth. Even if you met an extremely successful person who just seemed to be the greatest person in the world, would probably tell you about all the bad and illegal things they'd done in their lives, but the difference between them and the guy in prison, was getting caught. That's it. That's all that really separates us. Some things people have done may be worse than others, but we're all gray.
whoa that's really deep
Cool...what's interesting is this was suggested after another video of Smith making comments about Weinstein...except, he tells a story where they interacted at the premiere of Red State. So his timeline is wrong or he's just making things up to sound cool. I suspect the latter as his story about Prince turned out to be completely untrue.
I love this man.
I actually have an autographed Dogma DVD.
Although I love Kevin, I think he's being a bit disingenuous here - the rumours within Hollywood went far beyond that of him being a 'philanderer' at the time. It was an open secret he'd been assaulting and taking advantage of people and Kevin would have known of this.
You'd be amazed at how easily that stuff is covered up unless you just happen to know the right ppl. I wouldn't necessarily absolve Kevin Smith here, but I wouldn't necessarily assume automatically that he knew. That being said, philanderers with money and power like that seem to ignore the need for consent so it wasn't really a leap from one to the other and that shouldn't have been as "shocking" as Smith says here.
But why can't I get a stream of the greatest horror film ever, Red State
There must be a way to get dogma back though, there's gotta be some kind of legal trickery you can throw around and get the rights thrown back. And if not, if Kevin Smith made a film starred Jay and silent Bob about religion and told us all its Definitely not a sequel to Dogma, we'd know. Like how he confirmed that Justin long in Jay and Bob reboot is playing the same character from Zack and Miri.
Several people in hollywood have said that EVERYONE in hollywood knew about weinstein. So I find it quiet incredible that somehow it missed Kevin's ears.
Find it hard to believe Kevin didnt know
whow is the guy with the jabba the hut costum?
This guy knew more than he is letting on. Think about it ,why did Harvey call?
He told you in the video. The point was that he was testing out who knew what, and who had talked to the press. He knew that Kevin likely wouldn't have talked to him if he knew, or would have at least told him off. Smith and Weinstein did not part ways very amicably, and Weinstein likely thought Kevin had heard something after their public falling out.
The dogma sequel died with Alan Rickman
This guy looks great, he’s lost tons of weight
He was in bad shape. Like very bad...
He is still the same, real Kevin Smith and I love it.
Dude has done a complete 180 in his life. Eats ridiculously healthy (I think he's even a vegan now?), exercises, and is super conscientious about everything he puts in his body.
It’s amazing that Kevin didn’t realize instantly that Harvey was manipulating him when the article broke. He’s really still such a naive person after all these years in Hollywood.
He’s not someone who likes to think the worst about people. He has also admitted that his relationship with Harvey is complicated - he had issues with him even before the scandal broke, for personal and business reasons, but he also acknowledges that Harvey put him on and changed his life.
Now Smith owns it fully now
Dogma is the only Kevin Smith movie ive ever liked.
God I love you Kevin
Just call it "Amgod" or "Dogmatic".
Dogma day afternoon.
Groundogma Day
Good to know, I will never pay for Dogma again.
I haven't watched Dogma in years, but I wonder if I could even enjoy it now, especially the parts with Salma Hayek. It's awful what he put her through. Even though she so beautiful and has such sex appeal, I can't help but think Weinstein really just wanted her in those roles for his own amusement, just to see her as a stripper. It would just be one more power play over her. Also I can't help but think of what she wrote about feeling Stockholm Syndrome and wanting to impress him, and how Kevin Smith has expressed similar feelings about him, like being a 40-year-old man and still seeking his approval. There's this guy that seems like God and has all this power and opens all these doors, and everyone plays down all the stories and accusations, and he seems to be genuinely interested in looking out for you and helping your career. And then you find out it was all mind games and power plays.
Forgive me but you're kind of forgetting the part where Kevin is the one who wrote the script, including that character, including that scene. What she was doing there went right to the heart of who she was as character at that point in her existence, her relationship to mortal men. I'm not trying to say like oh so it's Kevin's fault and he was being gross, just that that's how the sequence would've been played no matter who the actress was they cast. And while obviously I can't speak for Hayek, but I don't think there was anything necessarily there that would've made her as an actress feel overly degraded, part of the point is how much and easily she plays the men for fools.
I love watching these amoral creepy Hollywood types try and pretend they didn't know what Harvey was doing this whole time. It's pathetic.
Just watched the movie on TH-cam and honestly it's gutting that the movie is tied to all this shit
good dude
So how many "noble compassionate" celebrity's knew about Harvey for years and did nothing?
Is Harvey broke yet? Can we crowd source buying Dogma yet?
Or make it a movie. Jay and Silent Bob kidnap Harvey for revenge for his victims but also getting dogma. This could work. I can see Jay trying to waterboard H but fumbling it and its a mild inconvenience. Lol
While making that movie would be in poor taste for a variety of reasons, that was really creative. I'm genuinely kind of impressed. As for your question, I doubt Weinstein is anywhere near broke. He was probably one of the richer people in Hollywood when he was arrested. I'm pretty sure he's lost more than half of his wealth since all this happened (mostly due to his divorce), but he likely still has over 50 million.
I would say wait for the inevitable civil suits to bankrupt him, so that Dogma has to be sold off to pay his debt, but Weinstein is likely to die in prison before this happens. The guy was physically falling apart before he was sentenced, and now it's even worse.
He fucking knew in 2001 what was going on. Chris rock in jasbsb was a parody of Weinstein.
just make Dogma 2 and call it something else
DAMN IT.
DAMN IT.
DAMN IT.