The Great Debate: Hilton VS Hyatt Hotels
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2023
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Hilton Vs Hyatt, The Great Debate rages on, for years people have touted that Hilton’s large footprint, fifth night free awards, customer service and even the ease of earning and redeeming points puts Hilton to number 1… BUT the there’s the new school touting Hyatt Hotels, while having a smaller hotel footprint, can deliver on an OUTSIZED consumer experience from their very unique and all encompassing hotels, to their generous Cent Per Point valuations and even their exclusivity with Hyatt Globalist Status when compared to Hilton Diamond Status.
So today, Cesar Joel & JP Knowledge will (sort of) debate this topic to see who really comes out on top! 🏆
Which side are you on? Hilton or Hyatt?
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Whoever has the best deal when booking
Sometimes the simplest answer, is the one that makes the most sense, and the correct one. Whoever has the best deal, completely agreed, Andrea!
Hyatt is the best by far, I stopped looking at other options and actually structure my vacations around the Hyatt locations. My wife works at an airline and we're blessed with the perk of free flights. Stayed in Amsterdam for 5 nights and only used 37,000 points!
Wow! So you’ve taken the approach that some get upset over? You will schedule your vacations around wherever the best Hyatt property is, I find that I do that as well, as long as it is within a reasonable distance of the destination.
Good point Turtle!
Love the debate here!! I definitely think Hilton beats Hyatt overall in most cases, when you consider how easy it is to accumulate Hilton Points, how valuable Hilton status can be, etc. Hyatt definitely has the best point value, but Hilton wins in my eyes. Great video Anthony!
I knew for sure you would totally be on Hiltons side for this haha, jury is still out for me, but at least so far, more life-changing experiences with Hiltons!
Thanks Matt!
I have never had a bad experience at Hyatt… In fact I was a Hilton loyalist and started having bad experiences with quick overnights at garden inns and and Hampton. I switched to Hyatt and it’s been amazing.
Yes i hear you, I’ve have good experiences at both, but I’ve exhausted Hilton points and now want to take over Hyatt ha.
Thanks Back Country!
It was great to hear both perspectives. I'm learning more about Hilton and Hyatt and I think both could be good, but it's way too early for me to pick a favorite
For sure Jacob, that’s why I think these videos could be good, highlight both sides from people way more experienced than myself haha.
Fell like this video is missing a special someone🤔, CHAD and his Marriott perspective. Great video Anthony would be amazing to have these two go at it head to head in a live.
Hmmm, GOOD IDEA Abdullahi. Maybe we’ll have to make this happen. 🤔
At the Hyatt Centric in Atlanta, my breakfast waiver was $144. Yes you read that right. I spent all of it just to do it lmao, and also combined it with the Amex Hyatt offer for $100 off $300 room rate and charges.
$144!?!?? Damn!! Wow you got some incredible value there, I’m about to go there!
Thanks Sam, that’s wild!
Hyatt Globalist is pretty good. And you can link it into Amex FHR and sometimes they will upgrade you. I booked Park Hyatt Bangkok for $350 for a night. I emailed my concierge and she emailed me back and said she called them to let them know I was coming but they weren’t obligated to upgrade me. Because I booked thru Amex FHR. I was upgraded to the Park Executive Suite. The cash price for that room was $1225 that night.
So I had $200 off for the FHR annual credit, $100 credit for dining . So it cost me $50 out of pocket for a $1225 room. Now that’s not gonna happen all the time. But it was very nice. Add in free breakfast for two of us and late checkout and I was definitely in the positive for that stay.
Also used a Suite Uograde Award for 7 nights at Andaz Pattaya Jomtien. Booked it for about $900 worth of points. The cash price would’ve been $5100 for the suite we got. Hyatt is very valuable , you just have to know how to use it for maximum value
That’s an amazing experience! I had a similar one with a Hyatt with FHR, got upgraded to $650 for $90 out of pocket, was amazing!
So yes I hear you for sure, that SUA probably came in so handy wow, I love to hear this!
Thanks Quinn!
Great mashup Tony! Was great to hear from both sides, but ... what about Marriott? No love for them? 🤣
Marriott is a close 2nd😂
That’s where you come in Stan. 😎 May have to get you on here to clean the floor with everyone else’s brand hahaha.
I'm more team Marriott, but if I had to pick between Hyatt or Hilton, I prefer Hilton properties. Great vid as always my guy💥
Thank you as always Mike man!! I need to get me to some Marriotts nowadays!
I will be watching this in my Canadian Hilton room later tonight.
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Ohhh let me know how that is!!
Points and free nights stays are nice and all, but which brand has the most hotels that are haunted?
Hmm, good point. I actually think more Hiltons are older, and therefore more haunted maybe. Hmmmm. But then again, the Westin in Greenville is a Marriott hmmm.
I can’t say anything negative about Hilton as I am not familiar with their program. However, as a Hyatt Globalist the best benefit that doesn’t get as much PR is the Points Advance Booking benefit. Using this feature I have already confirmed 43 nights in Spain, France, Italy. Greece, Turkey and Germany next summer without needing to have the Hyatt points in my account. I don’t know if Hilton offers this benefit, but having the power to make reservations “on credit” is fantastic. Plus there is the benefit that not only can I earn Hyatt points with my WOH card but also through Chase cards as well.
This was a VERY interesting thing to hear. I sent this over Mr. Hyatt - JP and he concurred it was powerful.
Thanks for bringing this up, I had no idea this existed and it’s POWERFUL!
First of all, I’m FIRST. Anthony in foreign territory showing the interior of an inconspicuous hallway 😮😮.
I don’t think Hyatt deserves to be called trash though. I’ve gotten really good value, however, I was unable to use points to book the Bellagio in Vegas. Those dates were blacked out 😢. I definitely agree with JP though. Good explanation about the globalist status.
😁😁😁 Inconspicuous Hallway.
Same haha, I’ve had good experiences so far at Hyatt. And ohhh, I’m glad you couldn’t, Conrad BEATS ALL!
Thanks CJ!
IMO Marriott for domestic US stays and their dynamic pricing really sucks.
The Surpass card is great. Great multipliers. The free night is easy and even the spend to Diamond status, if you use the card in your top 2 cards isn’t too tough. Also like the no restrictions on use of points. Never a problem.
Very good point about the Surpass, I do think still a good amount of people discredit it.
Thanks LJberkow!
This was great! Cesar makes really good points about Hilton and his issues with Hyatt. I don't dislike Hilton but Hyatt as a program and a point currency is better. I will say Hilton has significantly better cards. And although you can earn more points with hilton, they are worth way less than hyatt points.
The best plan in the points and miles game is to earn points that are transferable then transfer to partners. The only hotel worth it with Chase or Amex is hyatt. Otherwise just use your points for flights because the transfer rate isnt worth it for the other hotels.
Agree 💯! I do hope to have better luck 🍀 with Hyatt in the future.
Good stuff fellas 🫡
Agreed as well JP, I think you both laid out your opinions very well, and neither side will be perfect for everyone.
Then again, JP was at a disadvantage since it was Hyatt focused and not a “Vs” podcast like Cesar’s Hahhaha.
I'm over here, as a free-agent hotel "stayer," eating my popcorn and thinking "why not both?" 🤔😀🍿
They both make good points!
I know right haha. Eventually people switch sides when they run out of points or cards to sign up for, so loyalty lasts about as long as the points they acquire haha.
Thanks Dugroz! Maybe we’ll talk about that tomorrow!
@@AnthonyVenture looking forward to it!!!! 😎
Hilton is 👑 Even JP had issues booking a Hyatt during the Vegas meet up!😂 Fun video! Love JP’s videos and been a huge fan of his content for a long time!🫵
Haah! The Hyatt king was turned away!!
😂😂😂
This is true, my main gripe with Hyatt.
@@LukesPointsandMiles JP wasn’t able to book his stay using Hyatt points 😂 I had the same experience 3 times for 3 different stays, unable to book with points 😂
That's because Hyatt works on an award chart. All the best programs have award charts. You can book anytime with Hilton, but if the standard rooms are gone it will cost you 300,000 points a night. Be my guest to pay that crazy amount
Team Hilton 💪 Booking stays with Hyatt using points can be challenging more often than not.
I hear you for sure Lilliam! So far, I haven’t had an issue with either brands, but maybe I just haven’t tried to stay at enough Hyatts yet.
I've been a sheltered Hyatt fanboy for a few years now, mainly because of the chase transfer portal and point redemption value. The biggest gripe that I have with Hyatt is that there aren't many options in the boondocks. I have family that lives western Kansas, and it pains me to pay for hotel stays when I have all these Hyatt points sitting. I have admittedly not even considered Hilton due to my own ignorance until just recently finding some videos like this one that break it down better. I do think it is beneficial to use both, but I am excited to get the Aspire card and start my Hilton earning!
Absolutely Tyler! I’m the opposite, always was with Hilton and love them, but Hyatt has stolen my heard a bit 😂
One recommendation would be to get the $0 annual fee Hilton first, then the Surpass, then Aspire unless you really need the Aspire.
Since they may add family language down the line, and would hate to see you lock yourself out of other welcome offers etc.
Thanks Tyler for being here!
I teeter between Hyatt and Hilton but I lean towards a Hilton loyalist. I had better experience with Hilton than Hyatt.
Yeah and that’s the thing, there are so many brands and locations, you can have so many experiences at totally different places for the same brand.
I’ve had great stays at both, more upscale so far at Hyatts but we’ll see.
Thanks Rafael!
Congrats on the move. I'm sure living in your car all this time was tough.
🤣🤣🤣 - 🏆 Comment of the Year Paul!
13:10 Cesar over here dissing us for saving money eating at Mcdonald's
Unreal, has he not seen the spend $4 for a McCrispy and get a free ANY SIZE fries for FREE. Those are some powerful calories for the value.
Whichever one has been renovated/built recently.
That’s a good point, not sure who’s opened the most new locations actually. 🤔
Thanks Andrew!
I am not one of these travel points “players”, 90% of my hotel stays are non billable work related, Hampton Inn’s have been my go to for clean and decent places that aren’t budget killers. I recently started also using Marriott properties. I couldn’t tell you where the nearest Hyatt property is. I also have used 400,000 Hilton points this year because of two family members became ill/passed away. Several Hilton properties back home have kept me sane.
When I get a chance to travel for pleasure I will first look at price but if a Hilton property is close to another brand cost wise , I will go Hilton.
I’m really sorry to hear that Mike, sincerest condolences, and I’m glad the Hilton stays made it just a bit easier to manage everything for sure, I can understand how that feels.
Both have good points here. I am going to try to throw IHG into the ring haha. I just wish I had a good experience at Hiltons, though the Conrad Midtown was okay.
I would love to learn more about IHG honestly JP! And damn, the Conrad in Midtown was only okay??
Any reason that it wasn’t better?
@@AnthonyVenture I think it is mainly my bias, but I would say that the prices for the mini bar are ridiculous. I had a similar Minibar at a Andaz that was complimentary. I think if I actually paid the cash price, some items would be complimentary.
That plus the hotel food wasn't worth the cost even with the credits, though that wasn't as big of an issue since NYC has great food.
These are nitpicky, but just my take haha.
Ahh I see, makes sense all around. Good to hear these experiences for sure though!
I could imagine those prices were insane though ha.
I’d be curious of a video that compares brands without any cards or loyalty programs involved. Some people are under constant scrutiny with their credit profile and cannot endlessly open 15 cards per year. (Ex. house shoppers) Which hotel would you choose without points? That’d get some interesting answers… 😂
That’s a very good point Shaun! Without that, I think a lot of people would end up with Marriott, or Hilton I guess too in some cases.
Good idea haha.
I have only used Hyatt and have never had issues finding a place to stay. Granted, I always try to pay the least points I can for trips which means a lot of lower category hotels.
Same for me honestly, I think a lot of people end up trying to vacation to a lot of places that just so happen to not have Hyatt, probably happenstance just based on where you live, I’ve not had an issue so far finding them.
Thanks Soundcast!
I don’t use credit cards, but so far they both seem to be decent. However I feel the Hyatt has better service and cleaner rooms. I think part of it is because they have less locations than Hilton and Marriott and so because of that they can better overshadow their properties better. So far I’ve had good experience at Hyatt Place and the Hyatt Regency with clean room and nice people.
Yes for sure I can see that in a lot of cases, Hyatt has an equal footprint on more higher end properties like these other brands, Hilton has way more places but also more lower end place as well.
Thanks again for being here!!
No problem
Never had any issues with Hyatt. Very interesting to hear his stance on this.
For sure! Always good to hear others experiences since we really can’t stay at all properties, and they really do vary by region I’ve found.
I’ve had great experiences at both so far.
Thanks RJ!
@@AnthonyVenture I do agree with the fact the card itself is garbage when it comes to obtaining points.
Yeahh it’s a bit ehh. Especially since the FNC comes AFTER the first year 💀
I really think Hyatt is a bit overhyped. I agree with Cesar Joel's point. If you just focus on CPP and feel good JUST BECAUSE you get maximum value, then you overlook the fact that you might not even like the property. Instead, focus on the property that you are ACUTALLY interested in, maybe it has a tennis court, a lounge, or a nice looking gym with equipments that other hotels dont have that you really like.
So my hotel strategy is still the same: Preview the hotels that you REALLY like, then see if you can get at least equal to the hotel chain's CPP, then go for it. Don't focus too much on the higher CPP you get, the better. For example, say, a Hilton hotel that I previewed and REALLY like, and it cost 30,000 points a night while cash price is $140. Then I'll go for it. $140 maybe a bit lower than Hilton's point valuation at around 0.5 CPP, don't forget the taxes. Hilton waive taxes and resort fees on award stay. So this stay would have been at least breakeven. So you get fair CPP but you will actually ENJOY the property, then it's a win in my book.
I also do not rave about Hilton free night certificate. Sure it's very powerful since you can stay at top end hotel like Waldorf Astoria for amazing CPP, keep in mind your travel habit may not be the same as others. For me, I like to enjoy the hotel's amenities and food. Even with $50 food credit per night ($25 x 2), the food and amenities at top luxury hotels like Waldorf Astoria WILL definitely much higher prices than say, Doubletree. So you might end up spending more if you're my style of traveling. I 'don't redeem my free night certificate for the sole purpose of getting maximum CPP and might end up paying way more than needed. Some doubletree, Embassy Suites can be very nice hotels at great locations with dining credit and/or free made to order breakfast with restaurants that have much more reasonble prices than Walfdorf Astoria or Conrad.
You have a solid hotel strategy and a great way to really get value based on your travel needs. As you mentioned with several examples CPP can’t be the only thing taken in consideration. I agree with you 💯
Very very good and thorough response to this Titiung! In the grand scheme of things, totally agreed with your mindset. You’re going to want to stay in a place that you’ll enjoy a lot better, and that feeling will greatly outweigh any cpp valuations you would ever get.
Good thoughts all around!
Two years with Amex platinum never used hotel credit. Thinking about my life choices. 😪😪🙁🤣.
Hilton does sounds good.
Oh lawd Muhammad! You have to use $200 hotel credit!! Go stay at some nice places, book some trips and a hotel near $200, go to the Ballantyne in Charlotte, you won’t regret it!
Hilton has the overall best program
Hyatt has the most powerful points
Marriott has the best properties
Thank you! I agree, my mind is at ease now.
I think you just completely settled the debate Pit hahaha.
@@AnthonyVenture yes, make this comment public somehow lol. I’ll screenshot it.
I got it haha, It’ll go up as a post in the morning to see if anyone disagrees haha.
Lets just face it, most content creator choose hilton because of the Aspire card 😂.
If we are comparing apple to apple, then should compare purely the hotel loyalty programs without taking the credit card into consideration.
Therefore imo the best hotel loyalty program is Marriott.
Hmm, interesting point. So for Marriott then, what’s the main reason you’d put them above everyone else?
I have Explorist Status and I was able to get early check in at Hyatt Madrid (at 8:00am). They also gave me 2 pieces of cake and bottle of wine for my Birthday 2 weeks ago. The bald guy is full of shit. Once you transfer your Chase UR points to Hyatt, that's where you get your value. Hyatt hotels have better service and the rooms are always clean. A lot of Hilton hotels are just not maintained well and not as clean. Hilton's Conrad and WA are great hotels and service is amazing but the rest, I feel more often than not, I'm underwhelmed by the service and cleanliness.. More than once I've encountered rude people at the check in desk at Hilton. Just my thoughts... IHG suck completely though.... The bald guy nicked his brain when he shaved his head.
That’s the great thing about these debates is we get to gather data points between all different hotel programs.
Me personally, I’ve stayed at both, about 3-5 each this year so far if I remember correctly and have had great experiences at both, at least domestically thus far.
That’s pretty wild that they gave you cake and wine for your birthday! Did they have that ready, or you told them when you got there and they made it?
He was upset because he would do last minute bookings to high demand properties. I usually have been able to book Hyatt Place / House easy because they usually aren’t in high demand except Universal Orlando, the Hyatt Houses I have been to have been mostly remodeled in 2023 so it seems like a better point value, even tho they’re no resort.
I DO agree it is annoying to have a limited selection and availability but the point value is beyond worth. If I go with (I’ll compare the unmentioned) Marriotts .8 CPP I’m sure some destinations give 1CPP but for Hyatts Big Sur damm near 10CPP, plus I’ve noticed it’s not common during any time of the year to get 2+CPP in NYC, but Orlando Universal getting 3+CPP isn’t much difficult. When he said you gotta really do your HW, it’s not like you look at each day of a destination but more about what the avg point value is in that area you’re interested in. Pretty simple. & to compare a 2x .8CPP avg vs a 2x 2CPP avg, both paired with a CFU I’m using CFU for 24 months outta 24 months with Marriotts catch all vs using Hyatt for 6months of catch all before using 18 months of CFU 🤷🏽♂️
I wasn’t aware of basically evening checkout he was given, which in a few scenarios I can see value, but NOT double point value. I’d get an extra night😂
IDK but it’s not a bad idea to try to understand why people see value in other hotels, but I do understand that Marriott’s portfolio is top tier, maybe I’d get a sock drawer card for the free nights if I see a value opportunity🤷🏽♂️
Great Video Tony... I need to steal that clip from Cesar! "Hyatt is 🗑️" hahaha. Both guys made great points. I'm not loyal to any business but Hilton wins this one for me.
I'm like JP, I'll take a short trip in a heartbeat.
You'll never hear me talk about CPP because I'll never put that much effort into booking at hotel room 🫠. Im more about the experience and convenience. And since Hilton has way more locations, it's more convenient for me 🫡
It was a fun video for sure brother!😂 You don’t see many videos calling Hyatt 🗑️ we need more😂 I agree 💯 with your point of view in regards to CPP, the experience and convenience are more important!🫡🫵
Go for it hahaha! Sound byte.
See I’m not as crazy, I like to plan longer stays every few months, we never really did any 1 day trips unless the drive was like 2 hours or less.
Maybe I should change that hmm.
Agreed Cesar, we need more contention in the credit card world hahaha.
@@AnthonyVenture we will fly somewhere on a Friday and come back Sunday morning sometimes but it's usually not planned until a day or so before we do it hahahaha and it's most likely my idea
Hmm I see. Makes sense. I like that, I need to be ok with flying more too. How far do you go for trips like that?
@@AnthonyVenture usually somewhere with no layover so it's a quick trip. I try to get a 6am flight there and a late flight back.
I have ran into times where I still had to have a layover but as long as I get an early flight, it's all good
Hilton is hands down the best. Hyatt is a close third after Marriott.
Hmm, I need to stay at more Marriott soon, I’ve just a little experience with them before the points and miles game, have to check them out with fresh eyes.
Thanks Gemini!
Well, im gonna try a curio hilton hotel in Rome, as cesar said, no availability, but got great value at hyatt in Milan in a very central area where the property has free sauna for globalists. So for me, i am still team hyatt, but if this curio hotel wows me, i dunno….
Hmmm, I can see that point. I also think you’ll probably be wowed by the Curio, most likely. I’ve been to life changing ones, and one that ruined the trip so kind of hit or miss. They are usually older properties so with that, you get some old problems as well.
Thanks Mike!
@@AnthonyVenture lol the hilton by jfk was meh…. The redemption for the curio wasnt great but i am expecting to be wowed….
@@jw0ng23And were you fully wowed? 😂
@@AnthonyVenture i was impressed, but it would take some work to find value for better than 0.5 cpp
Oh absolutely, not the greatest but on par I guess for CPP.
JP the type of guy that would rent a car to use his globalist perks to free valet on reward nights at hyatt 7:57
This was funny hahaha. I can picture it ha.
Hahaha! This is hilarious 😂
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Neither... Wyndham hands down is #1! More options, cheaper, better results and can get a exchange with rci!!! Exclusiveness in quanity with extravagant quality. From then ill distribute to marriot, hilton, hyatt!
Heyyy very nice Charlie!! But one question, what is RCI?
That’s interesting to hear that you say extravagant quality, do you mean with Vacasa or just any Wyndham’s on average?
Thank you for being here Charlie!!
Hyatt is overrated. Hilton and Marriott are 💪
Biggest reason for Marriott you’d say you think?
Thanks Gonzalez!
Not even close, Hilton is the better option.
What would you say is the biggest reason Gran?
Hyatt is not as good as hilton.
For a lot of people for sure, why do you say it however?
Bro lowkey Hyatt is trash.. its never where I wanna stay when I wanna stay
I hear you, I’ve heard this from a ton of people so far. Hasn’t happened to me yet, but can imagine it’ll hit at some point ha.
Thanks Jake!