The Tea Spilling Saga - How Jeffree Star Became More Important Than Jake Paul | TRO
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- The Right Opionion: The Tea Spilling Saga - How Jeffree Star Became More Important Than Jake Paul | TRO
Intro:
Careers were launched, reputations were established, and people were, once again, falling head over heels for drama that seemed so inconsequential in many of our lives.
Summer 18 was around the corner, many were anticipating the shenanigans that all of these characters would be caught up in. Or at least we thought they were.
Because, as the holidays dawned, there was a distinct lack of interest.
In fact, fellow TH-camr Nerd City released a video in which he documented all of Jake Paul’s antics over the summer, antics that were arguably much worse than anything originally documented in 2017, and yet, if it hadn’t been for some very ruthless marketing, in spite of its excellency, it probably wouldn’t have even reached its current view count. 700,000, not bad, but hardly the peaks of the drama over the previous year.
So where had all the views gone?
I think it’s time for a story.
I think we’ve had enough of those sorts of storytimes.
Anyhow, I have a Twitter, and like most people with a Twitter, I follow people. When people follow me I typically check out their account to see what sort of individuals I’m appealing to, and in some instances they may be TH-camrs, for whom I’ll check out their channel and see if their Twitter’s worth keeping up with, and at some point over the summer a person by the name of TeaSpill followed me. I checked out their channel, around fifteen thousand subscribers, not a bad amount going on. So I thought, “You know what, I’ll follow them back, see what happens with their channel”.
They also had their subscriptions public and because I have a bit of a vanity project going on, I often check my most popular subscribers, see whose attention I have, and I noticed they were subscribed to me but fairly low down in the pecking order. However, with every passing week I noticed them climbing, gradually and then rapidly ascending, and I thought to myself “What on earth is going on”, this channel was going from 15k, to 30k, to 60k, to 150k.
So this is when I found about all these people, Laura Lee, Manny Mua, Jeffree Star, NikkieTutorials, so many more, and if we were going by their thumbnails and titles, this was a non stop festival just pure drama, and to be honest, they looked like people who loved a bit of spice. So what of this new rise to the top for such individuals?
Well they’re members of what is known as the “Beauty Community”, now when you’re as good looking as me, you don’t really need any makeup to stay beautiful, however, as implied, these are a set of creators who are focused on the testing of commercial beauty projects. But this isn’t any old beauty community, we’re not talking about Zoella here, as interesting as that is. No, we’re talking about the community that has birthed the tea spilling phrase, and embodied a culture like no other. And you’ll soon see what I mean.
This sort of content seems to have been performing fairly successfully for a while, the most prominent creator in this community is Jeffree Star, who has a fairly hefty ten million subscribers. The content has definitely diversified in the last few months, but I think that’s okay for someone like Star, whose definitely playing off his somewhat buoyant personality.
With the rise of channels like TeaSpill and other content creators reporting on what’s going on, it seems there must be a lot to discuss.
As said, there are a load of other prominent figures in this community, and really the question that I want to answer at the end of all this is why? Why did people start caring about the drama of a community that had been functioning fairly competently for years prior, and why should people care, or should people care?
These are all questions that many of us here will seek to decipher today, because honestly, I’m just as confused as the rest of you.
CREDITS BELOW:
- J Aubrey: th-cam.com/channels/YvEb6iLPxLPZTe6NcUUUeA.html
Still running behind schedule, I know Shane Dawson’s documentary series on Jake Paul will definitely make him more popular in the moment but definitely look at this from a retrospective point of view. Shane Dawson will have his time soon(ish).
- TeaSpill: th-cam.com/channels/j-qit6AuiqQnHUnY3qLc3g.html
CHECK OUT THE EDITORS:
- Ziosity: th-cam.com/channels/EDnzwVAE3lreHrN3GIWlJg.html
- Blunderly: th-cam.com/channels/vGNl_iR19qLadAEIOouFAw.html
- Lanooski: th-cam.com/channels/xfVbuWXJAPQ26tL6_BeLng.html
References Part 1 - Ziosity
Nerd City Video: th-cam.com/video/ywcY8TvES6c/w-d-xo.html
My Twitter: twitter.com/TheRightOpinion
TeaSpill TH-cam: th-cam.com/channels/j-qit6AuiqQnHUnY3qLc3g.html
TeaSpill Twitter: twitter.com/TeaSpillYT
“These guys”:
th-cam.com/users/NikkieTutorials
th-cam.com/users/jeffreestar
th-cam.com/users/MannyMua733
th-cam.com/users/laura88lee
th-cam.com/users/theepatrickstarrr
Laura Lee’s Apology: th-cam.com/video/PrWxrtBq15w/w-d-xo.html
Good video clip from Nerd City’s video: th-cam.com/video/ywcY8TvES6c/w-d-xo.html
Part 3 References - Blunderly
Shane Dawson Series on Jeffree Star: th-cam.com/play/PLaGL4End-91BhoJF0jwE4D8-1D4M7bl9L.html&disable_polymer=1
Jeffree Star Old Drama: th-cam.com/video/laa83nsU_mc/w-d-xo.html
Jeffree Star TMZ:
th-cam.com/video/5clO2KlINfA/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/4KmkVdKEIiY/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/rEx2MiTRh8I/w-d-xo.html
Beauty Channels:
th-cam.com/users/NikkieTutorials
th-cam.com/users/jeffreestar
th-cam.com/users/MannyMua733
th-cam.com/users/laura88lee
th-cam.com/users/theepatrickstarrr
th-cam.com/channels/ucot-Zp428OwkyRm2I7v2Q.html
People commentating on Logan Paul:
th-cam.com/video/nFmSepfF48o/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/PyihHuINXC4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/iBWiaFknYYc/w-d-xo.html
People moving to timeless topics:
th-cam.com/video/P-Wms1cB6uI/w-d-xo.html
People moving to reaction commentary:
th-cam.com/video/U98b5HJ0IrE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/zM1mbCcgehs/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/15BvTEu_9lk/w-d-xo.html
Deeper Videos:
th-cam.com/video/j0pjHZddQW0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Su6FeI7lHVg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/AuT6WuCYttk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/-0W7yjJ1hhE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/19la6vx_KUg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/KVR3GQ5VSqE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/qU5AcdmGHH0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/PTzIocqKJBg/w-d-xo.html
Part 4 References - Lanooski
Channel date:
th-cam.com/channels/j-qit6AuiqQnHUnY3qLc3g.html/about?disable_polymer=1
th-cam.com/channels/ZF8rswpPhDhLDIFacEelHw.htmlabout?disable_polymer=1
th-cam.com/channels/FmQrMVmCyaUrKGYSJxfKkQ.htmlabout?disable_polymer=1
th-cam.com/channels/7tRIdXRbGO6OKUKpZAjjug.htmlabout?disable_polymer=1
Tea Spill and Here For The Tea Synchronised Trailers: th-cam.com/video/wfs2zXBqc9I/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/b6kgBdpzDTU/w-d-xo.html
Deeper Videos:
th-cam.com/video/j0pjHZddQW0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Su6FeI7lHVg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/AuT6WuCYttk/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/-0W7yjJ1hhE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/19la6vx_KUg/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/KVR3GQ5VSqE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/qU5AcdmGHH0/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/PTzIocqKJBg/w-d-xo.html
Tana Mongeau/Dawson Collabs:
th-cam.com/video/UejAbjG0B4U/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/K6TGRxSHm3c/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/VlS5LGUTgLI/w-d-xo.html
Good article on the situation with evidence and so on: www.vox.com/2018/8/28/17769996/laura-lee-jeffree-star-racism-subscriber-count
More articles:
www.polygon.com/2018/8/20/17758972/jeffree-star-laura-lee-gabriel-zamora-nikita-dragun-youtube-beauty-vlogger
www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/a22814166/beauty-bloggers-laura-lee-jeffree-star-manny-nikita-racist-tweets/
www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/7063647/laura-lee-youtube-racist-tweets-jeffree-star-gabriel-zamora/
“Sincere apology video”:
th-cam.com/video/s86Ja0LyNFI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/PrWxrtBq15w/w-d-xo.html
Why isn't this channel called 'The most agreeable opinion'?
@@themcguinnessexperiment617 the most british opinion
@@robertjackson8950 fair enough you do have a point
Brace yourself, MauLer and rags will be responding to your ihe video on his next stream. Looks like that response video that you and Quinton Reviews feared to do is on the horizon.
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To be honest, there's nothing more entertaining than meaningless, catty TH-cam drama. It's spectacular popcorn viewing content.
I hate myself for liking it lol
I'm a good boy Same here
This is why reality TV was made
A big part of the fun is in judging from a distance mhm 🧐🍵
I agree, except for when TH-camrs I actually like are involved, then it's just stressful
might have to screenshot 2:24 to print out and put on my wall
Omg hi queen I love u
i saw u and squealed a lil!!
Lol i came here to see if anyone notice Eleanor 😅
Okay. I get that you can recognize the hypocrisy of the makeup youtubers, but you didnt even explain why the makeup drama was more important than the jake paul. You say that it occurs, and that it is because the views are down, but why are the views down? What spurs an audience to lose interest? I'm sad that you didnt even really say anything unique or exciting in this video. It felt like I just sat through 25 minutes of fluff that amounted to nothing.
There is certainly a shift happening on TH-cam.
Never forget Jeffree Star’s part in Turn off the lights by Hollywood Undead and Freaky Now by Deuce
Congrats on 100k!
You speak exactly how I wish my essays were written.
lol when I write my essays I read them in his voice. So if it feels like something he'd say i know it's good.
Me I do the same thing! Haha 😅
@@me9109 I've got to try that
@Me that’s a really good idea
@The Right Opinion drop your paypal I want to hire you as my ghost writer
Should have called my channel Tea City. I knew it.
Hey bro! Love you videos *but yeah, change to Tea Central and maybe I’ll shell out cash on you*
Nah, your content is fucking top tier amazing, and sometimes I'll rewatch your old videos because nothing compares to your unique channel. Just rewatched the Try Hards series the other day. The impeccable work that goes into Nerd City does not go unappreciated.
lmao yall are so late! see im a make up loving woman, so i got the tea when it was hot!
if England was your city you would've done it
more like gay city XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Thanks for including me ☕️😇
Love you and Here for the Tea 💖💖
You're exposed!
Love you guys!
You're exposed, sir! I'm gonna expose you! OMG EXPOSE YOU! :D
Your channel is like TMZ in the way you wouldent exist if people weren't total fuck ups that you can expose and make money off of
Hey i'm in this video
No you're not lol
Hi jaubrey
Its jaubrey lol
What up jawbrey
j aubrey i left before he said who you where and came back and thought your voice was atozy
Subbed though.
the beauty community drama is amazing. i dont even wear make up but all the fake bs and shady shit these influencers do is just so entertaining.
big mood
I don’t got that coin to buy the makeup they shove down my throat
Girl I only watch the drama! It’s so funny to me
It’s reality tv practically for free
I barely spend more $15 on any kind of makeup
I don't wear makeup either because I grew up with my mom thinking she had to wear it every where including the pools otherwise she thought she was ugly.
The fact that TRO might have looked at my Twitter account truly terrifies me, you have my sympathies Righty.
Same bro
Aren’t you the guy on the Alex Drinks Water videos? You always argue with him.
I feel like before I ever follow him on Twitter I gotta get my content on point first lmao like cleaning up your room before a guest visits
Never thought I'd see you talking about Tea Spill, an odd crossover!
i have been watching Jeffrey star sence 2004 on myspace. that guy has had fame for almost as long some of the people watching this video has been alive. i remember is like 2015 he was all over the news for his surgery's and the controversy around that. so you are right about him having fame for a long time before this. i think ther fact that his fame came from a platform that is now dead worked out in his favor as far as keeping old drama under raps.
Hollywood Undead mentioned him on multiple songs.
this platforms dead?! hmmmm. ok . no.
KC the KPop Legend pretty sure they’re talking about MySpace being dead
@@persepheon exactly ^^
Before my space he was poor. Do you not know how horrible his back story is? He didn't always have fame.
The fact that TRO casually ignored j aubreys comment about his own name and then proceeds calling him jaubrey, made my day.
5% of comments: nice video
95% of comments: thephrase'spillingthetea'comesfromthelgbtcommunityspecificallyfromthesouth
So Lo Realistically, it doesn’t matter where the phrase came from. Just because it came from the LGBT community, doesn’t mean that they own it.
So Lo Apparently, there is a new sub-section of comments; Religious bullshit that has no relation to the video.
@@cymothoa.exigua Oh I don't mind who 'owns' it or whatever, I just found it amusing to see so many people saying the same thing lol and yeah I wish people would stick to the video topic
So Lo I got that, just kinda wanted to get what I said out there without starting a fight.
@@cymothoa.exigua too late
The beauty community is such a mess right now. Racist comments, people doing paid negative reviews and not disclosing, not disclosing sponsored videos, putting out crappy products and constant lying. Not all are like that but it's quite a few. Hopefully it'll get better.
"Beatiful people" youtubers get to have everything easy and mostly end up being full of themselves. Then when something goes wrong and they have to face their own dishonesty "it's a tough situation", marked by an apology, a blanket statement of somekind and a request to us, the viewers, that we should somehow "relate" to their situation and "feel bad for them". They are the products of their own industry, not the ones shaping it.
@@tokenfinnishguy8714 That seems about right! I think it would be exhausting being that deceitful and dishonest. It would cause me major stress to live my life that way.
@A. Person Ugh.. do I have to.. haha. I don't have screenshots or anything. Most drama channels have done 1000 videos with all the tweets and everything.
your english is the only mess here love you so mach
junior it’s not even that bad lol.
We never truly leave high school do we?
Nope. The school just gets bigger.
@@selestielwolf7949 😔 I hated high school, I also stay away from the drama , not my cup of tea 😉
Whats high school?
@@ilikeyourfunnywordsmagicma8328 it's mager bs all children have to go through teaching them how to learn and immediately forget right after the test
@@willardjr6257 ...what?
i think a lot of the drama has to do with the fact that they're trying to sell makeup to their audiences. Makeup isn't cheap, especially when it's one of their collaborations with a brand. Many youtubers avoid disclosing sponsorships and try to sell their audience something that's shit, and people will get mad when their money is wasted because of a lie. Their personalities play a huge part in the drama, but them shoving products down their audience's throat is just as big, if not bigger in my opinion
I know they've got me before! When I first started watching youtube a lot I thought I needed to go to ULTA and buy 30 things to do my everyday makeup lol
Them trying to shove 130+ skincare products down your throat is the worst, i noticed they suddenly needed to use all the skincare in the world around the exact same time they started receiving a lot of pr packages, like go and take a bath can you be anymore obvious? Have some respect for your consumers money.
They aren't shoving anything down anyone's throat. That are only reviewing the products to see if it's worth the money. Also, a lot of makeup they review isn't even that much money.
the thing is they're not always going to be honest about their reviews, sometimes they just want that paycheck and don't care about their subscribers wasting $40 on an eyeshadow palette or a shit ton of money on anything else. and especially if what they're showing is a collab that they did, they don't want people to know that it's actually poor quality.
@@kathleen662 You're talking about the same community Jeffree Stars and James Charles is in, 2 people which drag bad beauty products that are A) Not pigmented, B) Doesn't have a wide shade range, C) Has a lot of fall out and D) Is too expensive and not even worth the cost.
now do an 8 part series for this
I have some tea on the right opinion
He makes good content with the help of talented editors
At least present something new, everyone already knows that!
IHE and TRO on the same day? Very nice, my fellow Brits uploading some good content.
There's a starman waiting in the sky he’d like to come and meet us but he thinks he’d blow our mind.
I am subscribed to both too :'D
Fun fact: tea comes from the lgbt community, specifically drag queens especially in the south.
Yeah and have been use in other Fandoms since long ago, the kinda new one they copy from them is wig
jenlolo yep! Exactly. Tea, wig, shade, snatched all come from queer terminology. I think it’s been further popularized by rupauls drag race and the internet just ROLLED w it. It’s pretty cool
Tea bag
@@acetate909 her name is "here for the Tea." Put some respect on her name. :) :)
T J. Uhhh..I understand the misconception but it originated in lgbt circles years before she was even born. It was originally t, standing for truth. And it was like a metaphor?? Idk what’s the right word rn to call it “tea”.
The phrase "tea," like many pop culture references, originated in the gay community. Popularized currently by "Rupaul's Drag Race."
judasofficial and Real Housewives of Atlanta!
@@jg1740 tea is a hot drink made from dried leaves that originated in china
After looking at Jeffrey star I totally believe that
Thats cool, thanks for the fact
Tea came from black women
Video: Biggest Subscriber drop in youtube history....
James Charles: Hold my beer.
Video: "Damage Control can only do so much to help"
James Charles: Hold my beer
@loveutill theendoftimes bruh what
More like hold my tea hahaha
To be fair I wouldn’t really call it damage control because he legitimately didn’t do what he was being accused of (still a funny comment though)
Oh shit that TRO with makeup caught me off guard lmao
Very interesting topic btw, nice vid as always
Jones Kirkland he’s a pretty boy
He be a fabulous boy.
Is a clip that shows in the video?
Is it*
I have noticed lately that all communities have drama. I used to think that most of the drama was on the commentary community (well, their Twitter accounts included) but then I started watching that people that I thought wouldn't cause any drama were the ones with the most of it (not that it's a bad thing necessary but beauty guru's drama is kinda stupid). In the end commentary community is kinda more open to drama and they don't hide it that much until everyone finds out.
Funny... the right opinion = Tro = which translates (from Dansih) to Believe
I believe in: The right opinion
Could be cool if you think of it that way❤️
AmenHonestly I tro in
Tro in deez nuts.
Haven't watched but from the title alone, deservingly so. Even if you're not into his videos and the drama, at least jeffree has an actual business beside youtube that he self made.
Edit: actually watching this, it feels like a throwback documentary how it snowballed since I actually follow these people lmao
Today, oct 5th, is my 18th birthday. What a gift. Bless.
So who tryna fuck
Happy Birthday!
The Right Opinion thank you!
and it's my 14th birthday..this is awesome
Zelda Is My Bias hope you have a wonderful day!
Not sure why, but this wasn't in my subfeed at all. I checked, refreshed and nope not in there. Had to go to your channel to see this.
TH-cam back at other again..
So hype to see you here and watching TRO! Love both of your channels
This is rather old drama but I'd highly suggest looking into what happened to Spoctor Theory (now known as Spoctor Tech) a while ago, because what some fellow creators did to this kid was horrible, I just find it was such an interesting look into this animation community, it just stayed so contained in it's bubble despite everything (If you're interested Pkrussel and PonderSprocket did VERY in depth videos on this at the time of the drama that rly saved the day)
Brady McLoughlin i second this. it was recommended to me for some reason (probably because i do watch a n y drama videos (jake paul or jeffree star) so youtube was like HERE THIS IS DRAMA or maybe bc my account used to contain MEPS) im not even in the animation community and i watched so many vids on it and it was so interesting but also so sad
Yeah I'd love to see his take on that shitstorm
While I wonder what TRO thinks of that drama, Ponder’s defense of Spocter practically doubles as a documentary so there’s really no point in TRO documenting it himself.
In my opinion, it would be more interesting to cover false accusations and the effects they have on their respective communities. So the Spoctor drama would be included of course, but not just his.
You know what's more important ?
Jojo part 5
Can’t wait for some Muda Muda Muda! Well, I don’t suppose Jotaro is in this part is he. Oh Well.
blonde ponytail 12 year old, or girl who used to sing when we were 12?
I'm a little weird...i watch tana, idubbbz, h3h3, jeffree star, tati, nerd city, Cody ko.... a little bit of everything, and it's always interesting to hear someone who doesn't watch the beauty community talk about it. I think this video was great.
I watch all those people too! Weirdos unite! lol.
literally same!!
Agreed about anything entertains me. Commentary, Movie reviewers, some bloggers, animal channels etc.....
Off topic but I bet you found that Idubbbz vs tana drama entertaining or ridiculous since you watch both of them lol. Or something else idk
Same! not tana though cause ew
not your average girl 🤪 call me quirky but i don’t watch content from just one community ☕️ 👩🏻🦲
I think your audience is likely to be at least familiar with the beauty drama on a surface level. It was so pervasive that even those who don't give a shit about Beauty TH-cam couldn't really avoid it entirely. I knew who a couple of those people were in name only and others I had never even heard of; Jeffree is the only one I was at all familiar with as a person but I'm old, I used to follow him on MySpace back in the day. By the time the drama peaked, I knew who all of them were despite having never sought out any of the "tea" myself. This is actually the first video on the topic I've watched, and it's only because I enjoy YOUR content. That being said, I did quite like this video as it presented a more objective perspective; oddly a video about drama that itself doesn't stir up more. That's not easy to pull off. I see you're planning to speak about Shane Dawson at some point, and as I'm a longtime fan of his I am definitely stoked for that one even if your opinion of him isn't as favorable as mine. Your views seem to run quite parallel to my own, but not always. I don't consider that a negative.
OhHelloSugar Wasn’t he friends with that Deauce guy that was kicked from hollywood undead?
+Dirty Dan I know Jeffree used to run with that whole Scene crowd back in the 2000s, but I don't remember anymore who all he associated with and he seems to have left all that in the past anyhow. Nobody really had friends back then, just fashionable people to be seen on the internet with. It was an incredibly shallow time.
OhHelloSugar It’s about more of the same even now.
@@klobknocker6512 yeah dude he made like 2 or 3 songs with HU and was closer to deuce than the rest I think since he did more collabs with just deuce after he was kicked from HU. The songs are pretty funny to listen to now because its the same ol jeffree as always lol.
@@klobknocker6512 something like that hahah
Sees title
Wig SNATCHED
Jeffree Star has been popular since the 2000s, he has gotten himself into loads of drama in his time but always manages to save himself for the most part. I think you'd be stupid to shade jeffree star at this point because of what has come of the people who have attempted it. Laura Lee and Manny Mua are some of the most hated people in the Beauty Community because of the situation with Jeffree, especially because it was around the time Shane's documentary was popular and everyone was on Jeffrees side
Tea actually comes from the LGBTQ+ community, most of them are part or close to it so it connects that way, it was already popular on Twitter and Instagram and the before mentioned connected places before the beautiful community popularized it in that community, cuz commentary community also used the word... Not that important but just something extra
@I'm full of foods he's gay but that doesn't mean he's like involved in everything gay. Not every gay person talks about spilling tea and eating ass
Interesting! Appreciate the info :), I wasn't suggesting it came from the beauty community as source, which is why I say I'm not sure exactly where it was sourced, but they were definitely using it long before us.
And yeah, even as an LGBTQ+ member myself, I'm not heavily indoctrinated in the culture, as interesting as I do find it, unfortunately where I came from was rather isolated and we didn't have much of anything relating to LGBTQ+.
Woah, had no idea you were a fellow member of the lgbt community. I love finding lgbt creators whose content isn't at all focused on their identity. It's always a pleasant little surprise to me
The three note repeating background track for the middle section of the video is very distracting.
Jeffree Star looks like an anime villain.
He basically is
0:10 forgive me for being unenlightened to Jake Paul's content, but is that a pool of fruit loops?
Also commenting on these expensive city properties with tiny swimming pools...what's the point? I remember visiting a Las Vegas house with a similar pool and was kinda underwhelmed. I am very blessed and thankful to live in the Midwest where having a 20ftx40ft pool and hot tub is relatively affordable
Honestly this make up drama is almost as bad as the vloggers. Massive “exposing” material is racist jokes from 8 years ago
A big reason why Beauty community drama is bigger than youtube drama like the Pauls is that where the Pauls are purely on youtube in a video format. We don't interact with anything related to them directly and are not directly affected by their drama. Also the only thing really getting affected is their own brand and the audience who chose to watch them. Beauty community goes beyond just youtube as most of the biggest beauty youtubers own their own makeup brands or work with big makeup bands. They are directly influencing the products we as makeup consumers use every day in both good and bad. They are held to a much higher standard because they have more power and responsibility towards their audience and the makeup business. We buy makeup based on their reviews or we buy products made by them so there is a much bigger sense of trust that a certain product is worth our money because makeup is expensive and some can even do harm on the consumers. The pauls are just content that you watch where beauty youtubers actually directly affect their viewers every day lives.
Only one week after I find and subscribe to your channel and you make a video about MY community! A very well thought out and executed video too. Most people who talk about or make videos about the beauty-drama community (of which I consider myself more a part of than just the “beauty community”) talk about how the drama channels are “bullies” and “stir the pot just to get views” yada yada yada. But it’s more than that. It’s, like you said, holding these so called “gurus” accountable for the shady shit they do. It mainly started with the drama channels finding out that A LOT of these gurus were doing sponsored content and not disclosing it. And that was a BIG DEAL. And then it just pretty much went on from there. BUT I just want to add, you would be HARD PRESSED to find a beauty channel that doesn’t disclose a sponsorship anymore and that is BECAUSE of the beauty-drama community. Otherwise, they’d still be out there ILLEGALLY making their commercials w/o disclosing and the young kids watching wouldn’t be the wiser. So some good has come out of it. Great video 👍🏼
but you are conveniently leaving out that drama channels have an agenda too. Thye put down gurus and people they personally don't like. I mean, John Kuckian was busted fabricating receipts. They do blow stuff out of proportions or push conspiracies that have been proved false. Now all drama, channels are Jeffree Star personal propaganda channels because they are biased to favor him. Yes, some drama channels are bullies and hypocrites. You can't trust drama channels to be fully accurate because they are not fucking detectives or lawyers, they are just people with Google. What thye say must be taken with a grain of salt.
missymani John Kuckian is a whole other level of crazy and most of the “drama community” has shunned him. Everyone (almost everyone, it seems he still has a little cult that continues to believe his crap) knows what a vile, disgusting, sociopath he is. When I say “drama community” I mean the channels I watch. Ones that always have proof of what they say and yes, there ARE some that aren’t as ethical or are down right malicious, but I think most of us in the drama community know who they are and avoid them at all costs.
LMAO why when he said "the tea is flowing through my veins" it sound like a true gay talking
I follow many genres of youtubers and see a lot of drama, so while none of this is new to me, this was an excellent video.
What I find interesting and why I think youtubers themselves should purposefully keep abreast of the drama from other genres (even if they have nothing initially in common) is how similar the dramas are. Almost cyclically it seems one genre will be hit by one type of drama, and then later another will be effected by something similar. Now, if you were a smart youtuber, you could use the examples made by members of one genre as a way to better safeguard yourself in a different genre from inevitably being hit by the same kind of drama, but it seems like none of them do. One of the biggest types of drama in the beauty community revolves around the ethics of paid reviews, sponsorships, discount codes and referral commissions and the disclosure of such things. A beauty community commentator will never run out of tea.
Ayy
Tea Time and Here for the Tea had identical trailers because it was a collab between both channels that had to be cancelled after the first episode.
I appreciate all the effort you put on this and I have never seen anyone have such an intelligent analysis based on so much incorrect information and conclusions.
My favorite is when he said jeffree rose to fame thanks to the shane documentary series LMAO I spat out all this cold ass tea right then and there
Hi there. Yes, I'm aware it was a collab between Here For The Tea, and TeaSpill (not Tea Time), that's why I was talking about synchronisation in their narratives, next time I'll be clearer it was a collab, but I never stated otherwise, I had TeaSpill read the script and watch the video herself pre-release to make sure the core information was accurate.
(Edit: Nevermind, I literally said "Jaclyn Hill collab", I don't know what more you'd want)
I equally never said that Jeffree Star "rose to fame", I said he experienced a "spike in fame/stardom", two very different phrases (spike in fame incurs you can be relatively famous before), which he has, statistics speak. Swallow the tea, honey.
The Right Opinion Just ignore the Metaporphosis dude's comments, he is always bitching and complaining about something.
+Metamorphosis Rox Hi 👋🏼... um quick question, what “incorrect information and conclusions” do you speak of?
TRO is the only thing that got me through 2020
This is set to be an interesting saga
"Tea" is from the Drag Community
This video holds more weight now after the James Charles drama.
When you said tea spilling, I thought you meant the Boston Tea Party of 1773 where American colonists spilled the British tea into the Boston Harbor to protest taxes. I never really understood the new meaning of tea.
"The boxing match wasn't really a profitable trending topic for most" really? I don't believe that for a second. The level of click bait around it was crazy
I wonder how Jake reacted to the suicide forest incident. 🤔
Cymbionic Tiger
Lowkey celebrated
How do you have few subscribers? Seriously your videos are genuinely great. I mean you have a lot, but I feel like you should have at least 10 times as many as you have.
Here in 2020 and oooooh girl. The drama in this video was small potatoes compared to the past two years.
The Music In This Video
Ahwlee - 86. (1991)
Blazo - Essential Violet - 2011
Blazo - Fragile Gold - 2011
Jinsang - Summer's Day [Version 2]
Kondor - The Wide World - 2011
TiredEyes - Now - 2011 (2)
Thanks
New to this channel (now subbed), and new to this kind of analysis of the mechanics of TH-cam drama. Very fascinating, insightful video. I think you're right up my alley. It's interesting to think about the various dramas that surround TH-camrs who rise and fall - sometimes they do things that should see them fall into oblivion and we see the opposite effect, and vice versa. A good analysis of what occurs behind the scenes. I like to see how and why people relate to each other, and that includes TH-camrs, who are kind of the new celebrities of the Western world (and hey, if it slows paparazzi from stalking film actors to any extent, that's probably a good thing. Who knows.) Thanks for this, love your work.
Gabriel Zamora's singular tweet is much more innocent and judging it so harshly is "being too PC".
But Laura Lee's are... Oof. Not even edgy humor, just plain racist from a malicious position.
It’s probably just me (and I accept that) but I don’t feel like Jake Paul was ever important. Just a loud, egotistical person who did crazy things for views and social media “hype”. 🤷♂️
Ok i give up, i tried really hard not to love this mindless crap. I'm an atheist/skeptic community subscriber. But i fucking love this crap! Its my guilty pleasure. Ive subscribed. Thank you for putting this all together. I can't afford the brain cells to watch these people myself.
OMG you straight people are hilarious!! The terms "Tea" and "Tea Spill" and "Spill the tea" are all slang from gay culture (esp. Drag Queens). Some in the beauty community are part of the gay community, thusly they use the slang. All gays use it. Catch up straight people. Lol
The makeup industry is huge! As far as watching them, it's not my cup of tea, but I do enjoy watching Jeffrey Star from time to time, but not for his beautiful face (that looks good without any of the glitz and glam), but for his personality and his tattoos! Still, to each his or her own. When it comes down to what each individual likes, I guess it's there own preference. I happen to like people who have convictions and own up to their own mistakes without faking the tears. We do know the difference.
Dang all my favorite TH-camrs are posting today
Firstly I’m curious, who do you consider your audience? Is the “right” meant to be correct or right-wing? Because honestly I don’t get a sway from you either way and that’s a good thing. I’m a leftist and any difference in opinion I’ve had with a thought of yours is just that. I still watch!
Also I was hooked into the drama by the tea channels you mentioned! I don’t even care about this stuff and actually stopped midway thru the story because of the long-winded nature of them. It was definitely a good check on moral standards though.
Honestly in the beauty community, I love Bailey Sarian because she is amazing, talented and funny without all the drama! Plus she does murder mystery make up Mondays 🥰❤️ love true crime and she is so talented with her make up!!! Same with Stephanie Harwlore 💕 love her content and they definitely need more love!
Damn, "thank to" COVID am binge watching your vids and each and every single time am like "who TF are these people anyway?" x)
Sometimes I’ll fall into a rabbit hole of drama and then afterwards I’ll hate myself and fall into an existential crisis. It’s so repetitive and stupid...
I'm not really a Drama person, but man I do love listening to ppl analyzing Drama, is that werid? That's probobly werid lol
The beauty community isn't even known for the make up, it is all about the tea and drama. I don't even watch the channels of the 'beauty gurus' I don't even use make up 😂😂 it is all about Tea spill, Richlux, beef, shook, and many more
Laura Leech is so dead inside in her new videos and I can't say she doesn't deserve it. Her "apology" video was the 49th most disliked video on youtube before she deleted it... we can say it was a shit shit shit video.
Was that Mr Blue Sky at around 7:30?
Yeah, i think it's the instrumental version.
Ah, Thanks:)
You're welcome. ^^
Omg how did I not notice that it's one of my favorite songs xD shame that it came with drama tweets in the video, it's such a happy song
This is so surreal to watch after everything that went down between Tati and Charles
When you showed cuts from previous dramas on black and white and the chill bgm I couldn't avoid feeling a little bit... Proud?
Like... "Awww look at all those beatiful moments I've got to witness here on youtube! Such good memories...." 😂😂😂
P r i s c a it is a bizarre feeling to get “nostalgic” for stuff like Daddy Derrick and H3vLeafy. Definitely an experience unique to this platform, if slightly comparable to sports feuds or rap beefs lmao
This video aged like fine wine
Only Jesus can give true happiness. Everyone including yourself can fail. We're all human beings not perfect. Its not what you did. But what Jesus done for you on the cross. Paid with his own blood its a permanent forgiveness of sins.. He even numbers the very hairs on your head. That's how much he loves you.
RunnerHelperHD *excuse me what the fuck*
Lovely video! I had no idea these channels existed before watching it, but you and JoJo Aubrey (definitely what the J stands for) did an amazing job explaining the situation
Who else hadn't even heard of these people until the Shane Dawson documentary?
Twitter is for angry goblins
I got to 9:39 before realizing this was, in fact, not about James Charles. I have no idea why my brain mixes them up.
I have never seen a beauty community post without a cuss word..
The music in the background at 9:15 sampled Pusha T - Untouchable! Thank you TRO, very cool!
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For the record, "Spilling the tea" comes from the drag community in bars and clubs for a really long time like a decade or more, not originating from the beauty community that just brought it to the mainstream. The true way of spelling it is "Spilling the T" as in "Spilling the TRUTH" and the use is kinda self explaining.
here for the tea and tea spill are sellout ...
Oh spilling the tea is older, from the drag community.
The term “tea” originated in the LGBT+ and drag community. It’s been around for a long time but recently found mainstream popularity due in part to the popularity of Rupaul’s Drag Race. I’m only 9 min in so if you address this later in the vid, my bad!
KIiiinddda; its a term black women came up with; the LGBTQ+ community has a history of borrowing and popularizing things black women originate
@@bloodydove5718 if we're gonna very picky, it was first Black LGBT+ people, mainly women. This was in Ballroom culture primarily, then this quickly extended to black women. The only group really that weren't LGBT but involved in Ballroom culture. And eventually when White Gays stopped being so racist and appreciated some of ballroom culture, it spread throughout the Gay community. this was partly due to Madonna the White Gay Goddess making the cultuo masterpiece "vogue". This was the same time New School Vogueing started to be popularised, and drag started to be viewed within exclusive binaries where as before drag was far more of a gender fuck.
The term "tea" is from OOOOOLLLLDDDD age, where you know all the elder women got together for afternoon tea at the day, to gossip? They were actually "spilling tea"
Nerd City could have 20 mil subs and they would still be undersubscribed.
And while on the topic, you are undersubscribed as well.
Hello ladies & gentlemen & welcome to The Right Opinion: the home of the twat with too much tea time. 🍵
Oh man, a dude in a top hat talking about tea spilling! I never knew I needed this!
Am I the only one who's freaked out by Jeffree Star? He looks so evil, that's what Mister Burns would look as a drag queen :'(
😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣🤣LMAO!!!!
I really like the satyrical choice in music during the twitter monteage. Had a little chuckle over that one. Props to whoever did that! lol.
Tea has been around since drag race or even earlier than that, I personally started using it when I heard Jasmine Masters saying “no tea, no shade, no pink lemonade”.
Wow, they all viewed this video! TRO you made it! That dream house you wanted so badly is right around the corner, and I for one, can't wait until you finally move in!!
Just a suggestion, think you can do a vid on Behind The Meme?
;)
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Chris Bartek are you referring to Emplemon vs Behind The Meme because Emplemon had a big role relating to the downfall of Behind The Meme
His rise and fall, including EmpLemon vs. BTM
Chris Bartek that’s the one I’m talking about. I hope the Right Opinion talks about this topic cause it’s an interesting TH-cam drama that’s never been talked about that much and also the fact that Emplemon is my favorite TH-camr
People started using "tea" on Tumblr because of the Kermit drinking tea meme. Believe me, I was there, I saw it all.
Cri Fri tea cake from drag queens in the lgbt community not kermit
Justoon that's just what I've personally seen on Tumblr
And there's videos of queer people saying "spilling tea" decades ago. 🤗
I saw a picture of a cat on tumblr, so tumblr invented cats
i cant be the only one asking what the fuck is tea
I guess people really love to watch dudes putting on make up
Ive been binge watching your videos. You are brillant