I don't get why people were mad at "Yeah you can give money to servers but don't offer in game advantages for money." Like, I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment.
From what I remember, most of it was kids thinking it's a bad thing *because* the servers they like were *telling them* it's a bad thing and that the servers they love won't be able to continue without it. The server staff are much more directly related to the kids playing on them than Mojang, so they can get them on their side much easier.
@@TheDolphinTuna Back in 2013, I don't remember any large server where donating didn't get you _something._ It was only the egregious ones (ie PvP servers mostly) which were avoided. Most survival servers would offer things for donating like extra sethomes, some donator-only warps and use of /tpa. That kind of benefit seemed everywhere.
@@ccaagg TBH there were some servers where playtime counted back in the day, I remember going on one that gave perks that you'd usually find on donor ranks on most servers
Yeah but community servers have to make money. The server I used to play had a donor kits you could buy but they were never too op and they were manageable. Not only did advantages like this matter for people to want to donate and keep servers up but it also encouraged players to stay, since a lot of people would quit pvp before they played enough to be decent. That's all for pvp side of things but regardless in the long run from what I can tell, it was a bad thing.
@@paz1514 theres a lot of terminally online people with progressive beliefs, but theyre often more just cringe and lacking realistic nuance rather than radical and harmful like the right-wing regressive kind. i havent seen any mass shooters or insurrections espousing twitter leftism as the reason for doing what they do, while the alt-right rabbit hole and the xenophobic individualistic nationalism it encourages is responsible for a disturbing amount of them. as in, most of the ones i can think of off the top of my head. plus, theres nothing inherently terminally online about calling out someone for being into qanon. most people who have gone outside and talked to a real person in the past 6 months can tell you those beliefs sound like the insanity of a doomsday cult and its obviously just a convoluted coping strategy.
After Notch sold Minecraft he became a billionaire and had "reached the top", he was supposed to be one of the happiest people in the world, however he came to the grim realization that he wasn't. He no longer had a purpose in life to fill his days, nor could he form meaningful interpersonal relationships anymore due to the isolating effect of his vast wealth (considering the parties he threw it's hard not to draw parallels between him and Jay from The Great Gatsby). Inevitably he got depressed and spiraled further and further into mental illness. As for the political radicalization, studies have clearly shown that on average mentally ill people are drastically more susceptible to it and that political radicalization in itself can lead to the development of various mental illness. I think the main take away from Notch's story is that if you ever run into a financial windfall yourself, it's imperative that you don't let it significantly alter your lifestyle. It's probably best to continue to live fairly normally and simply use your wealth as an opportunity to enhance the existing things that bring you happiness, for example pursuing a more enjoyable career path and getting to take your hobbies to higher levels. I think it's important that we keep in mind that whilst money can't buy happiness, it can add / remove the obstacles to happiness depending on how you use it.
I wonder, if he hadn't let his passion for game design die, and continued to work on indie projects in private, if things would've wound up ending far different. I pity him. He lost his passion and fell hard
I still idolize the impact of him. His takes are bad but his impact is more than any game ever, you can’t go anywhere without seeing something of Minecraft and in turn Notch. You can’t say “I play video games” without someone asking if you played MC. You can’t have a Minecraft quiz or facts without the mention of Notch. I still call Golden Apples “Notch Apples” for god sake. I don’t think he’s right in any means but I do think the man deserves some sort of peace after going through hell and back. He went through and became the biggest influence way before any game was. He sold 33 million copies in 2013, way before the internet was as big as it is now. I’d say one man with that kind of recognition would go insane no matter the circumstance. Edit: since people are keep coming at me for my usage of words lol. I should’ve been more clear I suppose, it’s not that the internet was less popular, it’s just more widely used now. Read my other comments if you want an explanation of my thought process. It’s been fun debating, so thanks folks!
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs you can acknowledge someone's impact and influence without putting them on a pedestal. That misguided idolization is precisely what turned him into what he is now.
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs Saying ''way before the internet was as big as it is now'' is quite a hilarious statement. I do agree with other things you said though, but you know, 2013 wasn't that long ago, and nothing has changed that drastically, right? Lol.
The fact that there could be a video explaining c418 and why he doesn't make the music anymore in just as much detail as the creator of the game shows how influential Minecraft is
Notch clearly has a "terminally online" disease. One look at his tweets and you can tell that whatever he thinks, he posts. People get addicted to positive attention online and cannot stop even when reward is no longer there.
More like any attention. I do think he attracts certain people. But I’m unfortunately sure that god social starvation made him desperate for even negative attention as well.
Maybe cause of a thing called "freedom of speech". you are practising freedom of speech right now, just like notch does. just cause you disagree with someone doesnt mean they are "terminally online"
@@peanut5376 It's not a simple matter of disagreement, Notch is saying blatantly false things about trans people, spreading misconceptions that have constantly led to the creation of oppressive laws and the perpetuation of violence -- not to mention the immediate harm of people you look up to spreading outright misinformation about you. Don't believe me? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transphobia ...and on another note. Criticizing Notch for his shitty takes is just as free speech as the takes themselves. Freedom of speech doesn't suddenly make every opinion equally valuable.
@@damianthorne2532 never said I don’t want people to disagree with either me or notch. In fact I want there to be people with different opinions cause a world where everyone shares the same opinion would be a horrible one no matter what that opinion is. I’m just voicing my own opinion, you don’t have to agree with me and I know who I am as a person so I don’t really care about people calling me transphobic or whatever else the internet likes to throw at people
It's peculiar that a swedish journalist, Kent Werne, has published several books debunking conspiracy theories and exposing them in a historical context. These books have been very popular in Sweden, but Notch, despite being nerdy about that stuff, never seem to have read said books.
@@im4ft622 Not without specifically knowing which conspiracies they think they debunk. But the ones people like to go after are: chemtrails (real) United States Democrats engaged in Satanic rituals (video- and photograph- documented fact) Pizzagate (ground-level was demolished, photograph clearly shows the alleged basement sealed without investigation) 9/11 inside job (fact only disputed by people who haven't actually read up on it) CIA Heart attack gun (fact, declassified) JFK (recently declassified) Child trafficking tunnels under Washington D.C. (documented fact, child trafficking conjecture) WW2 Denial (This one is a strawman; no one denies it happened they just know the minute facts are different than what are taught)
I think there's a great deal of irony to be found in the fact that he at least _was,_ prior to his success, aside from a few points of note, an altogether unremarkable individual at his core in terms of personality; and his last name is both pronounced identically and spelled near-identically to "person", as though an indication of a certain degree of normality to him.
It just goes to show how scary otherwise unassuming guys can be. His mindset is super common, especially among gamer guys, but they only share those screwed up opinions online so you wouldn't know if you passed by them on the street. That's why I don't play multiplayer games anymore, too many horror stories I've personally experienced 😞
@Matt They didn't say all games are the same. They pointed out that online gamers tend to have toxic people in the base which absolutely isn't wrong. Look at you coming in to attack because you don't like what you're hearing about your community. I rarely play online with people with chat because of the racism, sexism and other shit that gets spewed. If that isn't "normal" why is it so prevalent in many online games? Some are chill and their base is chill. Some aren't. But theres always people out there ruining it for everyone and little is done about them.
@@bigishdave1862 lol, well put! This video is full of wanna be bot comments XP P.S. I feel bad, sent a reply thinking you were a troll that was hasslin me and so I deleted it. You prob still got it in your news feed and wanted to openly correct my mistake!
Ah the power of Isolation. One thing I've noticed about the people closest to me that start to soak up conspiracy theory shit is they tend to be people who self isolate or have other issues they don't want to or can't work on to resolve. Anxiety, depression, feeling othered. They then buy into this sense of belonging to a group of douche bags and suddenly their entire personality flips.
It seems to be how many foul groups form. Everything from MLM's to street gangs to cults, to Incels, to conspiracy theorists seem to operate on this logic of creating a sense of belonging for people who feel othered and alone. Except a lot of these have a toxic element of not just telling people things are okay, but simultaneously saying "X is the reason for your problems" as well.
Notch got his money and flipped out. We also need a video about the Minecraft content creators that we find out are scumbags preying on their fans. There are a lot of them.
Notch could have had an incredible career after Minecraft as a mentor figure, like you said. Going to cons, universities, high schools, doing TED talks, heck even writing a book! But no one is going to want him anywhere near a public forum if he’s spreading these sort of hateful rhetorics. He alienated himself from the very people that could have saved him.
this. he had all that incredible opportunity in his hands post-minecraft and utterly squandered it because he really thought being a shitty, terminally-online bigot was somehow more worth it.
This is really creepy - I was walking home from a German class and suddenly I had a thought: "Wow, TRO didn't upload something recently, hope there will be a video soon." And... just as I got home, there it was.
god, i had *no* idea the creator of minecraft fell into qanon. that conspiracy theory has ruined so many people's lives. also, wanted to point out that qanon was massive in other countries for a time. australia and canada are prime examples, so i'm not surprised that it would have infected someone from the EU.
I’ve heard some stories but never saw the tweets. People kind of downplay it a bit by saying “he just supports Trump” or “that he’s just a conservative” But damn. Those tweets are just full on bigoted.
@@rhettorical idk guy, believing that the democrats are *literally raping kids and drinking their blood on an industrialized scale* seems pretty ruinous to a social and professional life to me but sure, that's just questioning modern culture instead of being absolutely delusional
I think Notch is the prime example of someone who would live life happily and turn out okay despite sudden success... If Twitter did not exist. I firmly believe social media and the mania in it corrupted his already fragile nature.
When they originally came out that Notch sold the game for 2 billion I fully expected him to fade into obscurity, living in that giant mansion he outbid celebrities on and just coasting through life. I guess he got bored and decided to hop on Twitter. It sucks. I joined Twitter back when Elon bought it for the meme and I'm already on the edge of leaving again. It's such a depressing site.
@@sabersz I spent 3 months on FB back in 2009. That was enough to show me one thing. The human subconscious collective is evil and poisonous, and should have never been publicized.
both kinda agree and disagree, his success snowballed from tractions from online forums he frequented and if it wasn't twitter, it'd be 4chan and the like, hell it was noting all the Q bullshit. that said if his success came from outside social media and its predacessors, absolutely.
It seems very common for once hard-working people who suddenly come across massive wealth and success to just start spiraling into nonsense. I guess when you no longer have to work hard to live a lavish lifestyle your mind starts going to some weird places. Idle hands are the devil's playthings and all that.
Yeah, he truly lost his purpose on life and became a shell of a man. Now all he does is tweet all day (over 100+ tweets per day) and complain about how lonely he is, it is very depressing stuff.
That's only true if you aren't directly financially supporting that person. Like, go ahead and buy stuff based on Lovecraft, cause dude is dead and gone(thankfully), but if you buy a product from someone still alive and spreading hateful views you are directly endorsing them.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Only if the product is a direct showcase of their beliefs and opinions. Having a completely different product to the creators opinions doesn't correlate to endorsement.
@P.M. it does if you are aware of those opinions. It takes nothing to not support them, it takes an active choice to support them knowing their opinions and that active choice is a direct endorsement.
@@p.m.7156 If buying a product does _anything_ positive for a garbage person, you sure as hell _are_ endorsing them. You can't just clear your conscience by denying this.
It’s still disapointing to see how everything shifted in what he said online, but honestly the 300k bonus to all previously employed people, and protecting them from layoffs, really did still get my respect. Plenty of studios when they get bought don’t do this sort of thing, mostly since they don’t have the ability to, to be fair, but it’s still just such a good thing.
one good deed does not make someone a good person. and keep in mind, his house was twice the price of giving each employee one million. and he gave them less than that. he has billions. thats like bringing up that the racist down the street gave a homeless guy a dollar. except the dollar was more significant to the racist than .3 million was to persone
@@arcanealchemist3190 No one is a good person though. Everyone in the world will have baggage or problems, most of them just aren't public. The heart is was decides if someone is good. We can't tell the thoughts of people or the genuineness behind what they say, because we can't read minds. When people like you say "good person" or "decent person" you just mean compliant and non-controversial. Cultures always have taboo concepts and he talks about them. Racial IQ differences as a field is off limits, if you pursue it you'll end your career and lose your financial stability. Trans related stuff has a similar affect, though there is actually a counter to all of it. The entire field is pseudo-science that denies biology. Its only controversial because the people who go through with transition are essentially test subjects who have ruined their body, thus if presented with the facts are at risk of feeling terrible to put it lightly.
@@arcanealchemist3190 he gave them 300 thousand dollars, literally what more do you want. Let the man have his multimillion dollar mansion no matter how egregious. You just come off as greedy and no better than the man you claim is below most.
@@arcanealchemist3190 and guess what? he could have not thought of them at all, he couldve kept all the money and instead he gave 300k, a life changing amount, to everyone. That is something that only someone who is at least a slightly good man with good morals would do. you just feel like you have to hate the man and everything he stands for to be up on your high horse, like youre better than him in every way. come off it.
@@arcanealchemist3190 the point is it was a good thing, not a sudden "look hes a good person" moment The phrase "separate art from artist" comes to mind, acknowledge the good while reprimanding the bad. Just like with role models, media, and many things in life, everyone should learn how to take and separate the good aspects of something so that it can be improved upon and acknowledged while rejecting and criticizing the bad. Hyperbolic example but I can look at a murderer genuinely helping a old man with his groceries and say it's good deed and should happen more while also acknowledging the person themselves is awful.
I think people should just separate art from the artists, but the other way around just because an artist did something you love, it doesnt stop them from doing bad deeds, and you should put your feelings for said art aside and call them out for it
I mean, okay? But you don't know them personally and it's way healthier to do the normal version of separating art from the artist: enjoying the art without bothering yourself with the artist's character.
I mean, It's hard. I can no longer listen to certain music without feeling guilty, knowing the artist is either a rapist, neo-Nazi, created a cult where members cut their sleeves, produced illegal content involving minors, and is probably in jail right now
What did he do? Make tweets on both sides of the same coin but the only ones you saw were the viral ones? Watch the video “notch- what we all got wrong” and you will see both sides
I remember when I was in high school, long before I heard about his fall from grace, I made a brochure containing Notch as one of my inspirations. Yeah, it’s aged horribly. 😅
TRO, these aren't even essays, they're full documentaries. Thank you for all the work that you put into each one. Thanks for elevating this into bigger things to think about beyond just one person's life journey. 🙏
The end poem of Minecraft had me legitimately hysterical. Such a fantastic thing to read for anyone who feels lost or like they aren’t worth it. I’m happy to hear the original writer is happy with their decision to leave it in the game. I seriously hold it very close to my heart.
I remember when I read it for the first time, it felt so... serendipitous. It coincidentally articulated lot of ideas I had been particularly fixated on at the time, and not only spoke them back to me in the way I hadn't even known I'd been wanting someone to, but showed me that they were beautiful. Like looking at a mirror and seeing yourself smiling.
Eh, it's alright. I feel it's quite a bit pseudophilosophical and a lot of its merit comes down to people insinuating most of it. It says a lot to say very little I find, and beats around the bush to come down to a philosophical message I've seen communicated much better before.
@@littlemoth4956 I agree that its not as deep or complex for such a long piece, but the time It arrived was the time I needed it, and I heavily appreciate how it got me on the path to self worth. Its not the what, but the when and where. Most people finishing minecraft werent looking for that poem and didnt know how bad they needed to hear it, myself included. But I see your point of view judging it blatantly on its quality outside of the context it was put in.
I’m pretty sad he fell off the deep end, I used to idolize him a lot when I was younger and he seemed like a genuinely good guy. Sucks to see the pressure get to him like that
42:21 “Why do people hate me?” “Well we where a bit shocked you would just drop us all like that. It’s cool now though.” “F*ck you!” Hey Notch, my guy, I think I’ve figured it out…
They still think these things are going to happen. My poor idiot cousin fell into that hole and she STILL believes in everything saying shit like “You just watch!” To my mum seven days a week… (mum had to block her it got so bad)
@@lulub517 Don't try to reason with her, because I bet you've done that alright, right? You provided evidence, context and general logic to debunk her claims, but he kept ignoring or denying your point, correct? If I am right, you should just make fun of him, mock her, make him feel ashamed, so he at least doesn't spread his vile beliefs.
@@strangejune If all attempts to reason failed and a person keeps associating with a bad crowd, spreading hate and vile beliefs, one should try more unreasonable approaches like mockery, something these Q-tards gleefully engage in, to make that person at least too ashamed to openly spread their hate and stupidity.
Bring up JKR and Ye were great comparisons. All three show how online spaces can radicalize people who were previously a ‘normie’. I thought your point on how people look for a problem to push back against was especially poignant. I hadn’t thought of that before but it makes SO MUCH SENSE. It explains the actions of a lot of ‘anti-woke’ celebrities who were considered more progressive previously
I mean, when someone says ‘we are all human’, it is ultimately true, whether someone’s at their highest highs, or lowest lows, we all have the benefits of humanity Same for the detriments
i truly wish that instead of pushing back on social justice movements, they would push back against the bigoted establishments. leftist movements need the funding and vocal backing by respected celebrities, and yet they choose to go full nazi+transphobe instead.
idk if jkr counts as internet radicalization... the bigotry and harmful stereotypes present in her books have been there since day one, ppl just didnt notice or didn't care. and ppl way more eloquent than me have discussed how the overall message of harry potter is very much in line with her current politics
I made my first TH-cam video on Minecraft back in like 2012, creators like Syndicate inspired me to grab a microphone and start telling stories and creating narratives in game. It's sad that Notch chose to behave the way he did but it's an interesting story of how money and fame can alter your judgement and views, ultimately turning your reputation on its head. Great job, man.
I've played this in alpha when it was hardly known. It was so bare bones compared to minecraft now. Later, when the game was in its beta states, the mod community added an incredible amount of content. I loved that period.
Notch, despite all his fame, success, and popularity, speaks a great deal to the characteristics I find common about most who have gone down the conspiracy rabbit hole. They are bereft of real secure attachments with other people and desperate to find a connection - only to find the illusion of a connection in a heavily radicalized community.
This exactly. I hear a lot of griping about being lonely and not taken seriously from someone who actively hates people like me and would gladly cut off my independence and legislate all my loved ones out of existence, and the irony is so thick I can't stand it.
Please keep in mind that he is Swedish... Sweden is not the usa. So... In context... Suicide is big in Sweden, it's the solstice and the half darkness during a period of the year, being neighbor to russia doesn't help... And they are so dam awesome those vikings ❤ noch is not a viking tho.... He is just another usaer....
@@MrBell-iq3sm Not really. Your logic suggests that a very large part of making friends has to do with how much money you make, which says more about you than anyone else.
Chronically online behaviour. I'm really glad I went to uni and experienced real life. Glad I pulled myself out of this rightwing rabbithole. Notch makes me think at what I could of ended up as, out of touch with the real world.
I just want to say, I appreciate you. It takes courage to self-reflect, challenge your beliefs, and grow out of that harmful mindset, and so way too many men don't bother and stay in their super messed up echo chamber. Sadly, that same echo chamber is the reason I was forced to quit my career the game industry. I was doxxed by them during gamergate, and I had some really, *_really_* scary things happen to me. I had to walk away from a high paying career I loved for my own safety. ...And then here's Notch, who thinks I apparently deserved it, just cuz I'm a woman who liked video games. I stopped watching JonTron around this time, too. He has similar politics as Notch, and seems to have a pretty big chip on his shoulder towards women in general, too.
Any rabbithole can be pretty destructive to the people that fall into it, there isn't anything right or left about it. I've went down some wack ones before and don't look back on those times with any sort of fondness
Uni isn't "experiencing life." It's literally just being forcefed left wing BS by college professors with an agenda to push. You weren't in a "right-wing rabbit hole" you just got told you were by college professors.
I was aware of alot of this, but it's sad seeing what's happened to Notch as a person - he was a generally good person it seems before Minecraft and even during alot of his time with it. I think he went, well, bonkers due to all the issues you outlined. And Qanon offered a world view that 'explained' everything he felt was wrong. So sad that I don't think he's woken up to the bad path he took and he now is suck in a scenario where he is isolated by his previous statements, which makes it hard for people to reach him and get it through his head he was wrong. I don't know if he'll ever escape the effective loneliness. His success has weirdly messed him up.
I was a bit sad when I found out that they removed references to Notch even though I dislike him, there was just something about it that didn't feel right to me. I am glad however that I haven't had a real reason to think about him since that stuff. Also I wanted to make a side note that any individual tweeting 100+ a day definitely has a problem lol.
yeah, Its a shitty move. even if a creator is shitty, trying to scrub them out of the thing they helped create is wrong on principle. guys like walt disney or roald dahl weren't exactly saints by any standard, but we shouldn't pretend like they don't exist.
Funny you say that, I've been achievement hunting on the Xbox One Edition of Minecraft and one of the achievements is to eat a 'Notch Apple' or in other words, a Golden Apple. Noticed it earlier and it did make me think of him
Shout Out to TRO! Dude needs more credit hes one of the few bigger creators i see who always credits his editors. That's what's up! Viewers often forget theres several unknown unseen faces that help contribute to the art that we love.
It's always been sad to me, how far Notch fell. As an isolated trans kid minecraft was my safe haven for years. I was never upset when Notch stepped down, cause to me it seemed understandable to get overwhelmed and burnt out from trying to please everyone and keep your special project the way you envisioned it. It really does just sadden me that Notch didn't or couldn't keep the connections he made before minecraft became big. I feel like if he did he wouldn't have spiralled so far, and maybe he'd still have a community to come back to :/
This is possibly a niche reflection but I feel it may be interesting. There is this swedish tv-show titled The Playlist, and it's about the creation of Spotify. It is, of course, embelished to create an interesting narrative but it is based on the true story. The creator of Spotify, Daniel Ek, comes off as very similar to Notch. A solitary guy who created something that grew beyond imagination. Someone who was dedicated to their product, but seemingly were in over their head. The story of Playlist ends (Spoiler) much like the story of Notch: the creator went from being regarded as a genius to being seen as a piece of shit. Point is, if I had a nickel for every time a Swedish man created a product that became globally known and then fell from grace, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
damn. this video is so strong. it’s almost a sucker punch. i’ll always remember my old 360 worlds, even my pocket edition world from when i was like 7. Minecraft is definitely my favorite game of all time, and a lot of that definitely has to do with the time i spent playing as a kid. i love this game so much, and thanks for reminding me why i liked it so much in the first place
Honestly glad Notch sold the game, even if it was to microsoft who could do a better job. These days no one talks about him and I even forget he exists most of the time, probably for the better.
I honestly haven't thought about the guy in over a year. The last time I actually thought or even spoke about Notch was back when I still played 2b2t, because that server is literally a time capsule of early 2010 Minecraft. Even playing on the Xbox One Edition feels weird now.
@@Clown_the_Clown I think his name should (obviously) stay in the credits, but otherwise, he absolutely can just be ignored (as in, literally; no-one needs to really think about him if they don't want to) since he really isn't actively involved in Minecraft anymore.
For all the content Microsoft has added, the game is becoming more and more restricted by Microsoft. Notch never would have forced private servers to have big brother moderation like Microsoft recently has.
As a little kid, I was in that part of the community who referred to Notch as "God". We knew it was mostly a joke, but he was also the creator of our favourite game, so that's just how we viewed him. I cringe when I think back to that time, but it makes me kinda sad too. It's a shame that he created so much dissonance between himself and the fanbase
One thing I really love about TRO is the use and highlighting of different editors, it keeps the videos interesting visually and gives editors more chances of showing their work! Keep it up!
I work from home, at nights, and of course alone. I tell people Tro is my coworker so I can get off the phone quicker when I don't wanna talk. 10/10 best coworker ever.
It's almost mind-blowing how Notch over time has become such a strong personification of "die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain". It's soberingly, and somberly, fascinating to see how, for whatever reasons, a person who on the outside has everything (wealth, success, influence, respect, etc.) seemingly does everything they can to sabotage their life. Almost a race to the bottom, so they can fight their way to a new zenith. We witness it time and time again. It's somewhat saddening to see it repeatedly play out with many public figures.
Something I find interesting with the comparison to JK Rowling is the difference in control over their works. Notch has since cashed out and doesn't gain much from the continued sale of the game, while JK has since made it explicit that she will never let go, and there are many problems and red flags within the work itself. Notch's goal was to separate himself to give each person an individual experience. Rowling has tied herself to hp so deeply that it reflects her thoughts and opinions at its core. The antisemitism in minecraft is very simple to remove, but slavery, racism, and the unwillingness to change are the core of hp.
@@max3446 Yeah it's been pointed out a few times that the villagers are an antisemitic caricature, but it's pretty vague unless you look deeper into Notch's views.
@@dangerousbutterknife7988 Yeah, I figured that's what you might be referring to. Given that afaik the villagers were added before Notch went down the Qanon rabbit hole I'm inclined to think that they were not intended to be antisemitic, but I haven't looked super deep into it so I might be wrong.
Brilliant ending, speaks for itself I'd say but the problem is people in Notch's situation or falling down a pipeline need things to be a bit more on the nose. Options are optimal. Giving others the option to choose whenever that doesn't infringe on ones own basic needs is too good to pass up. Letting people identify with their pronouns is a minuscule sacrifice to make (if it can even be considered that) For all the other human rights it gives them by extension. Trans lives, Black lives, all minority lives and individuals or groups struggling with underrepresentation and systematic oppression matter. Don't lose sight of egalotarianism.
This is an interesting one. I never really keep up with Notch. I didn't think he had a fall out like this sadge. Crazy how often it seems minecraft creators burn out n stuff.
Lmao- you comparing Notch to the MC creators is pretty funny in itself. I do agree though, I never realized how bad it was. I’d say his demise was inevitable when you consider how big MC was back before the internet was as widely accessible, gaming and indie games were big.
@@KazuhiraMiller46 Ik but it wasn’t widely used due to the costs and the technology at the time. You could make the argument that Tetris is the biggest indie game as that’s literally the first ever indie game and has been successful since it’s creation. I was more referring to how Notch made an entire thing before gaming was widely known as a $ machine and before the internet was widely used as it is now.
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs you serious? The Internet was still massive in 2009 when the game came out. I think you're mixing up the time that smartphones came about, mainly with the original iPhone in 2007, and the rise of the Internet in general. Computers were already widespread, especially in developed countries, by then. It's just the smartphone segment that has quite literally exploded
The tendency of some whose chief interest is the wellbeing of others while never practicing or even being aware of what's best for them actually has an official name. It's called a savior complex, and though I'm not sure it's applicable to Notch, it is something I, regrettably, have had something of a history with.
Looking back, a game like minecraft was always inevitable. Its a simple concept with much potential. Notch alone (with his team) could have never produced what we have gotten today. I am very curious to see what you have to say about his legacy!
I like this idea. Another sort of Minecraft-esque situation that happened with VR games is Beat Saber. That game is like... Top VR game according to a lot of people. I'm happy that Notch created Minecraft, and as much as Microsoft have messed around with the game, I'm overall happy with it. The game in it's current state is such a departure from the older versions, 1.7 and below. Seriously, I booted up Xbox 360 Edition not long ago and it feels like I got transported back ten years. I mean, there's a reason people call Bedrock the Bugrock Edition.
@@sabersz i totally agree. Both Mineecraft and beat saber are to simple that they just HAD to be created at some point. I'm glad beat saber had such a great look out from the beginning and i'm also glad notch gave the responsibility to a greater in size company after it got too much too handle alone.
'Happy birthday. I love you.' Made me weirdly teary-eyed, even after all the insane and hateful tweets. Maybe it's your compassionate coverage, but this story feels more sad than anything. I've never seen a Twitter account that was so clearly a cry for help. I hope he gets it.
people are disgusting, they can support bigotry if its from someone who made something they like. I grew up with things like minecraft and harry potter too, and I can still like those things without trying to justify their horrible creators
For me, I find it difficult to enjoy Harry Potter these days. Joanne's recent slew of bigotry has prompted many people to go back and re-read her books more closely, and it turns out that there's been a heaping helping of unsavory subtext in her writings all along. Her antics on Twitter have poisoned her previous work, because it's now evident that she's been a terribly insensitive, judgmental shrew all along; it turns out that any takeaways we had as children about becoming better, more open-minded people were completely accidental.
Agreed. I hate the "separate the art from the artist" defense, because supporting their art means GIVING THEM MONEY. Sorry, but thinking women, certain races, and the LGBT community shouldn't have basic human rights is a pretty clear sign that you're a terrible person who shouldn't get rich off the backs of the same people they staunchly believe should be forced against the wall.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter I'm amazed people didn't realize it sooner. I saw the subtext from the beginning, and have you seen her other non HP books? My god, she is overt about her hatred of fat people, poor people, black people, indian people, and gay people.
The Infiniminer code was leaked, that is how Notch started the Cave Game. He wasn't inspired and then coded it from scratch, he downloaded and edited it, mapping on his own textures that are from other games he has made. This isn't to downplay anything, if you look at his previous games, he always had a game like Minecraft in his mind, but the leaked source code was the final thing he needed to put all his ideas together. Also he didn't come up with the name Minecraft, someone in one of his chats did. It's kind of like Apple, they had an idea they were trying to achieve with the personal computer, then one day they seen Xerox PARCs GUI and mouse etc, and that was what Steven Jobs needed to finally put all his ideas together and make something great. The infiniminer source code is Notches Xerox.
Your insights are really impressive. The “Resources, time, and purpose” thing was a brilliantly simple visualization. You really have a gift of breaking big concepts down into it digestible parts. Bravo sir
He talks all mellow and friendly at the end because TRO wants us to forget he has Internet Historian locked up in his basement, and a couple more. #NeverForget
The editors are always so good. The team crushed it again. Great video all around. I've never played Minecraft but it's still been a shame to see Notch go down the roads he did.
I'm glad you're not just demonising Notch for some of his beliefs, but actually try to figure out how he ended up where he is now. That's how we should engage with people like him, give them a hand and understanding but don't just dismiss their sometimes dangerous ideologies
I wholeheartedly agree I also think if you're in conversation with someone like that, asking why they feel that way about something or how they came to a conclusion, it can help understand them and maybe even help you to convey your side of things
Shuniji is one of my favourites, it somehow makes me feel like how time is dripping away, and things are... moving, whether we like it or not, and everything shifts around us. It felt fitting for Notch really, I believe too that the problem with him was indeed mostly that he was cast into a sandbox world irl without having any goal there.
fantastic video!!! as somebody who has both fallen down the alt-right internet pipeline before and has been falling back in love with minecraft lately, this video really touched me. It's tragic seeing a talented guy who seemed kind at one point descend into such intense twitter madness.
Ren & Stimpy, Earthworm Jim, Harry Potter and Minecraft: these four franchises have ascended beyond the the need from a creator who is no longer popular.
Its crazy to think how his own "fans" hated him while he was popular, and eventually it drove him to accepting the hate and using it as validation for his beliefs. Also it sucks he was actually right about the free speech thing, its genuinely no longer a thing where i live
minecraft has been the best thing that has happened to me . as a weird and autistic kid - minecraft just spelled out everything for me . i made friends i wouldnt have been able to through it , i was allowed to be weird and cringe through it . but with that , i am also trans and gay . Notch used to be my idol , he was low end and "weird" , so when i first had internet access , i found his tumblr and read through everything i could . And then 2019-2020 rolled around . obviously i just couldnt continue being fine with him as an idol or just someone i looked up to . that hurt . i often look back and wonder why he fell in the alt-right pipeline even though he isnt an american . sad to see politics and paranoia destroy someone so deeply
The Harry Potter fandom has a lot of the same struggles I hear, and your far from alone in the minecraft community on this. You made Minecraft yours, and Notch stopped caring about it a long time ago. You don't need him as an idol. But I get it, sucks to see someone you looked up to show such ugly true colours.
I use to play Minecraft quite a lot when Notch was involved but actively refused to look into this dude thanks to the crytoic stuff that happened as i guess I didn’t want to know. Thank goodness I didn’t, I use to be all about what others thought then as well and I might not have transitioned if so.
Is it weird to have my mood genuinely change when I see tro uploads? It legitimately makes my day better. Even if I don’t quite have time to watch it yet, like looking forward to getting to watch it when I get time seriously makes me happy.
1:00:56 100% notch was referring to bill C-16 in canada that conservatives stated would ‘throw you in jail for getting pronouns wrong’ but it was just legal protection of gender identity in regards to rights and such
@@coadekatits insane how you think that it isnt. It doesnt have to be word for word verbatim what he said for it to be what is possible under it. The legislation was worded so poorly that it could be used to persecute people for misgendering. Something so poorly worded should not be legislation no matter what its supposed "intent" is. Its like making a bill called the "save puppys" bill, and sneaking in wording that would allow you to put political rivals in prison, and then getting mad when people question it.
@@BranH-m6pthere's a difference between hate speech and accidentally misgendering someone. Hi Canadian here, almost everyone in my school would be in jail if what he says was true.
@@adrianthetheygo back to saying “FREE 🇵🇸” and hating Jews since it’s politically acceptable for the left to do it, while canceling Kanye for the very same thing LMFAO
Notch isn't the only person I know who lost / completed their primary purpose in life, became isolated and embroiled in online politics and conspiracy theories, alienating and pushing away friends and family. It's a vicious cycle people become engaged in because they desperately need *something* to care and fight for, and for some reason this kind of stuff seems easy to fall for for this demographic.
I don’t think I can hate Notch. He was a normal person with billions of dollars dropped into his lap and nothing to spend it on. He wasn’t making games anymore and was searching for a purpose and so he found one that suited his personality, rallying against something bigger than himself. A lack of purpose is never good for the human mind. It makes us listless and desperate and Notch made it clear that’s exactly how he felt. I hope that he finds a purpose in whatever game he was talking about making this year, it’ll be good for his mind to put himself to work again.
I think Notch cared a lot about the community his game created, and then he felt they turned against him when all the cruel comments rolled in. It wounded him and affected his faith in humanity. I've heard TH-cam content creators describe this too. When you're small, people are mostly supportive. When your channel takes off, random people show up and sling ignorant sh**. If he had hired someone to filter the feedback, it might have all turned out differently.
I do believe we need to separate the artist from the art. If not, we would not have much art left. Writers, painters, actors, directors, producers, musicians, philosophers, have often said or done bad things or held bad views. It is more the rule than the exception. I think that artists often give the best part of themselves to their art, leaving little for the people in their lives. That said, artists should not be immune from criticism for the bad things that they say and or do. It's a tricky line, especially in this age of social media. But if you really don't want to give an artist your money by paying for their work, because you don't like them, that is fair, but get it some other way. Second hand, or from a library, or whatever. But don't deprive yourself of the art itself. These are two separate things. And we all need art.
His mistake was coming to America. I'd vanish into a cabin in the mountains of Sweden with a nice view of a fjord and never come back. A billion dollars can buy you a nice gaming rig and a lifetime of fresh coffee.
I'm a post operative transgender and this video sort of struck a chord in me. Back in 2012 when I had my surgery I could hardly believe it was finally happening, the culmination of everything I had been working towards for the then 10 years of my adult life. Yet when I finally had the surgery I felt empty, like my purpose for living was gone, like I'd reached the end credits in a movie that just kept going. It took me close to 10 years to find a new purpose again as a student nurse, but it was hard to draw a line under my previous struggles and shift my attention to something new. Perhaps that's how it was for Notch.
It makes me so happy and is so inspiring to see trans people that are many years into it and are thriving, I'm 2 years FTM on HRT but no surgery there's a good amount of rough days at this stage thanks for sharing it really does help ❤
@@Shortkingharry For what it's worth it gets better. Just make sure that you have a new dream to dedicate yourself to when you've achieved your current dream. For me becoming a nurse was a way to make a positive impact on the world, feel good about my existence, and make friends. You need to decide what you want out of life, what you need to achieve it, and set your sights on that path. Your current struggle will end far sooner than you realise so look to the future! :)
Ah yeah, nothing like the TheRightOpinion uploading a new video, can’t wait to binge this video when I get home from work. I’m very interested to see how Notch fell from grace, the only thing I know about this subject is the SunnyV2 video but I’m pretty sure that video is a year old.
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"virtual rape and slavery in minecraft" is an insane article headline to just drop on someone
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imagine trying to explain this all to a victorian child
How does one virtually rape another? I’m not being sarcastic i genuinely want to know.
I don't get why people were mad at "Yeah you can give money to servers but don't offer in game advantages for money." Like, I wholeheartedly agree with this sentiment.
When I was a kid, servers in any game that gave you in-game advantages for donating was a server one avoided like the plague.
From what I remember, most of it was kids thinking it's a bad thing *because* the servers they like were *telling them* it's a bad thing and that the servers they love won't be able to continue without it. The server staff are much more directly related to the kids playing on them than Mojang, so they can get them on their side much easier.
@@TheDolphinTuna Back in 2013, I don't remember any large server where donating didn't get you _something._ It was only the egregious ones (ie PvP servers mostly) which were avoided. Most survival servers would offer things for donating like extra sethomes, some donator-only warps and use of /tpa. That kind of benefit seemed everywhere.
@@ccaagg TBH there were some servers where playtime counted back in the day, I remember going on one that gave perks that you'd usually find on donor ranks on most servers
Yeah but community servers have to make money.
The server I used to play had a donor kits you could buy but they were never too op and they were manageable. Not only did advantages like this matter for people to want to donate and keep servers up but it also encouraged players to stay, since a lot of people would quit pvp before they played enough to be decent.
That's all for pvp side of things but regardless in the long run from what I can tell, it was a bad thing.
notch is a great case study of what being chronically online can do to a persson
notch is also a great study of what being born into a right wing family does to an mfer.
"Persson", i see what you did there
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An even better case study is the lefty Twitter crowd crying about him. Just as terminally online if not moreso than him
@@paz1514 theres a lot of terminally online people with progressive beliefs, but theyre often more just cringe and lacking realistic nuance rather than radical and harmful like the right-wing regressive kind. i havent seen any mass shooters or insurrections espousing twitter leftism as the reason for doing what they do, while the alt-right rabbit hole and the xenophobic individualistic nationalism it encourages is responsible for a disturbing amount of them. as in, most of the ones i can think of off the top of my head. plus, theres nothing inherently terminally online about calling out someone for being into qanon. most people who have gone outside and talked to a real person in the past 6 months can tell you those beliefs sound like the insanity of a doomsday cult and its obviously just a convoluted coping strategy.
After Notch sold Minecraft he became a billionaire and had "reached the top", he was supposed to be one of the happiest people in the world, however he came to the grim realization that he wasn't. He no longer had a purpose in life to fill his days, nor could he form meaningful interpersonal relationships anymore due to the isolating effect of his vast wealth (considering the parties he threw it's hard not to draw parallels between him and Jay from The Great Gatsby). Inevitably he got depressed and spiraled further and further into mental illness. As for the political radicalization, studies have clearly shown that on average mentally ill people are drastically more susceptible to it and that political radicalization in itself can lead to the development of various mental illness. I think the main take away from Notch's story is that if you ever run into a financial windfall yourself, it's imperative that you don't let it significantly alter your lifestyle. It's probably best to continue to live fairly normally and simply use your wealth as an opportunity to enhance the existing things that bring you happiness, for example pursuing a more enjoyable career path and getting to take your hobbies to higher levels. I think it's important that we keep in mind that whilst money can't buy happiness, it can add / remove the obstacles to happiness depending on how you use it.
There is a reason so many successful lottery winners simply hide it.
Nice head canon bro
@AsePlayer What did I say that was false D: ?
@@Kyotosomo I think it's an excellent analysis and one that I personally agree with :)
I wonder, if he hadn't let his passion for game design die, and continued to work on indie projects in private, if things would've wound up ending far different. I pity him. He lost his passion and fell hard
It’s been so weird idolizing Notch as a kid and now constantly being saddened by the bad blood he decided to make with the public
I still idolize the impact of him. His takes are bad but his impact is more than any game ever, you can’t go anywhere without seeing something of Minecraft and in turn Notch. You can’t say “I play video games” without someone asking if you played MC. You can’t have a Minecraft quiz or facts without the mention of Notch. I still call Golden Apples “Notch Apples” for god sake.
I don’t think he’s right in any means but I do think the man deserves some sort of peace after going through hell and back.
He went through and became the biggest influence way before any game was. He sold 33 million copies in 2013, way before the internet was as big as it is now. I’d say one man with that kind of recognition would go insane no matter the circumstance.
Edit: since people are keep coming at me for my usage of words lol. I should’ve been more clear I suppose, it’s not that the internet was less popular, it’s just more widely used now. Read my other comments if you want an explanation of my thought process. It’s been fun debating, so thanks folks!
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs you can acknowledge someone's impact and influence without putting them on a pedestal. That misguided idolization is precisely what turned him into what he is now.
Death of the Author - good cultural therapy. Lindsay Ellis did a great vid on it.
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs Saying ''way before the internet was as big as it is now'' is quite a hilarious statement. I do agree with other things you said though, but you know, 2013 wasn't that long ago, and nothing has changed that drastically, right? Lol.
@@letheas6175 you think a decade “wasn’t that long ago” ?
The fact that there could be a video explaining c418 and why he doesn't make the music anymore in just as much detail as the creator of the game shows how influential Minecraft is
TRO casually coming back after 3 months with +1 hour video about Notch is a blessing, thank you for your service
I think no one cares about Notch but we all enjoy TRO videos !!
What do you mean coming back? They never left. It just takes a while to make these videos.
I mean he never really left its just his standard upload schedule lol
TRO post when they're ready, in the meantime we wait patiently
Typical internet goers attention span. If its not happening within 5 minutes, its gone forever.
Notch clearly has a "terminally online" disease. One look at his tweets and you can tell that whatever he thinks, he posts. People get addicted to positive attention online and cannot stop even when reward is no longer there.
More like any attention. I do think he attracts certain people. But I’m unfortunately sure that god social starvation made him desperate for even negative attention as well.
Maybe cause of a thing called "freedom of speech". you are practising freedom of speech right now, just like notch does. just cause you disagree with someone doesnt mean they are "terminally online"
@@peanut5376 It's not a simple matter of disagreement, Notch is saying blatantly false things about trans people, spreading misconceptions that have constantly led to the creation of oppressive laws and the perpetuation of violence -- not to mention the immediate harm of people you look up to spreading outright misinformation about you. Don't believe me? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transphobia
...and on another note. Criticizing Notch for his shitty takes is just as free speech as the takes themselves. Freedom of speech doesn't suddenly make every opinion equally valuable.
@@damianthorne2532 never said I don’t want people to disagree with either me or notch. In fact I want there to be people with different opinions cause a world where everyone shares the same opinion would be a horrible one no matter what that opinion is. I’m just voicing my own opinion, you don’t have to agree with me and I know who I am as a person so I don’t really care about people calling me transphobic or whatever else the internet likes to throw at people
@@damianthorne2532 At this point, transphobia is just being normal and accepting of reality.
It's peculiar that a swedish journalist, Kent Werne, has published several books debunking conspiracy theories and exposing them in a historical context. These books have been very popular in Sweden, but Notch, despite being nerdy about that stuff, never seem to have read said books.
That author is taking some big Ls. Almost makes me want to buy his books for the laughs
@@shadowpathfinder7723 can you elaborate
@@im4ft622That's the average QAnon nutcase for you
@@im4ft622That's the average QAnon nutcase for you
@@im4ft622 Not without specifically knowing which conspiracies they think they debunk. But the ones people like to go after are:
chemtrails (real)
United States Democrats engaged in Satanic rituals (video- and photograph- documented fact)
Pizzagate (ground-level was demolished, photograph clearly shows the alleged basement sealed without investigation)
9/11 inside job (fact only disputed by people who haven't actually read up on it)
CIA Heart attack gun (fact, declassified)
JFK (recently declassified)
Child trafficking tunnels under Washington D.C. (documented fact, child trafficking conjecture)
WW2 Denial (This one is a strawman; no one denies it happened they just know the minute facts are different than what are taught)
I think there's a great deal of irony to be found in the fact that he at least _was,_ prior to his success, aside from a few points of note, an altogether unremarkable individual at his core in terms of personality; and his last name is both pronounced identically and spelled near-identically to "person", as though an indication of a certain degree of normality to him.
It just goes to show how scary otherwise unassuming guys can be. His mindset is super common, especially among gamer guys, but they only share those screwed up opinions online so you wouldn't know if you passed by them on the street.
That's why I don't play multiplayer games anymore, too many horror stories I've personally experienced 😞
@@WobblesandBean I think you‘re delusional
@@harmony2846my dad actually worked with him lol (before he even made Minecraft) and he was just a chill dude honestly
@@WobblesandBean and you're pretty generic, immediately lumping populations in together because you can't fathom that video games aren't all the same
@Matt They didn't say all games are the same. They pointed out that online gamers tend to have toxic people in the base which absolutely isn't wrong. Look at you coming in to attack because you don't like what you're hearing about your community.
I rarely play online with people with chat because of the racism, sexism and other shit that gets spewed. If that isn't "normal" why is it so prevalent in many online games?
Some are chill and their base is chill. Some aren't. But theres always people out there ruining it for everyone and little is done about them.
It’s always good day when TheRightOpinion uploads a new video once in every few months.
@Don't Read My Profile Photo get a life.
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Your comment reads like a bot wrote it. Then again most TH-cam comments do so what else is new
@@bigishdave1862 lol, well put!
This video is full of wanna be bot comments XP
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Ah the power of Isolation. One thing I've noticed about the people closest to me that start to soak up conspiracy theory shit is they tend to be people who self isolate or have other issues they don't want to or can't work on to resolve. Anxiety, depression, feeling othered. They then buy into this sense of belonging to a group of douche bags and suddenly their entire personality flips.
It's also fact that conspiracy theories play into paranoia and the like. They target already vulnerable people specifically.
@@stan8479 yep this right here. It's cult mentality.
It seems to be how many foul groups form. Everything from MLM's to street gangs to cults, to Incels, to conspiracy theorists seem to operate on this logic of creating a sense of belonging for people who feel othered and alone. Except a lot of these have a toxic element of not just telling people things are okay, but simultaneously saying "X is the reason for your problems" as well.
Also to add from what I see its people who are religious. Specifically christian people who turned to Christianity at a time of feeling alone.
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Notch got his money and flipped out.
We also need a video about the Minecraft content creators that we find out are scumbags preying on their fans. There are a lot of them.
i recommend "the minecraft degenerates" by turkey tom for that : )
No, Notch was a openly an anti-Semite from beginning to end and now people have realised that
@@limeyell0w945 cool. I’ll check that out.
@@RedneckOgre9000 yea
Nah. He was always like that. He just let the mask slip once he had money, cuz he could afford to not care about public opinion anymore.
Notch could have had an incredible career after Minecraft as a mentor figure, like you said. Going to cons, universities, high schools, doing TED talks, heck even writing a book! But no one is going to want him anywhere near a public forum if he’s spreading these sort of hateful rhetorics. He alienated himself from the very people that could have saved him.
this. he had all that incredible opportunity in his hands post-minecraft and utterly squandered it because he really thought being a shitty, terminally-online bigot was somehow more worth it.
i agree with notch
@@Boulders911 ratio
@@MajoraWaffle keep living your 52/13 world
@@Boulders911 take a long walk off a short cliff, racist 💖 also ratio again 💖
I feel so included when he says "and all other flavors of twats." The NB respect we need
Yeah TRO has always been based
get help
@@juriwuw I got it from ur mum already 🥱
@@juriwuwu need help being more open minded
@@juriwuw :(
This is really creepy - I was walking home from a German class and suddenly I had a thought: "Wow, TRO didn't upload something recently, hope there will be a video soon."
And... just as I got home, there it was.
literally said the same thing a couple days ago
I WAS THINKING ABT HIM EARLIER TODAY TOO😭
Two days ago in a train I had literally the thought
Thank you for summoning this blessed video.
@@Somethingaweful I live to serve
god, i had *no* idea the creator of minecraft fell into qanon. that conspiracy theory has ruined so many people's lives.
also, wanted to point out that qanon was massive in other countries for a time. australia and canada are prime examples, so i'm not surprised that it would have infected someone from the EU.
Same here. Had no idea that Notch dove into that madness.
I’ve heard some stories but never saw the tweets. People kind of downplay it a bit by saying “he just supports Trump” or “that he’s just a conservative”
But damn. Those tweets are just full on bigoted.
Ah yes, the conspiracy theory that makes other insane conspiracy theories seem less stupid by its mere existence.
It didn't ruin him and he never went off the deep end. But the narrative is that he did because he dared to question the direction of modern culture.
@@rhettorical idk guy, believing that the democrats are *literally raping kids and drinking their blood on an industrialized scale* seems pretty ruinous to a social and professional life to me but sure, that's just questioning modern culture instead of being absolutely delusional
I think Notch is the prime example of someone who would live life happily and turn out okay despite sudden success...
If Twitter did not exist.
I firmly believe social media and the mania in it corrupted his already fragile nature.
When they originally came out that Notch sold the game for 2 billion I fully expected him to fade into obscurity, living in that giant mansion he outbid celebrities on and just coasting through life.
I guess he got bored and decided to hop on Twitter. It sucks. I joined Twitter back when Elon bought it for the meme and I'm already on the edge of leaving again. It's such a depressing site.
@@sabersz I spent 3 months on FB back in 2009.
That was enough to show me one thing.
The human subconscious collective is evil and poisonous, and should have never been publicized.
see also: phil fish
second case: Azealia Banks
both kinda agree and disagree, his success snowballed from tractions from online forums he frequented and if it wasn't twitter, it'd be 4chan and the like, hell it was noting all the Q bullshit.
that said if his success came from outside social media and its predacessors, absolutely.
It seems very common for once hard-working people who suddenly come across massive wealth and success to just start spiraling into nonsense. I guess when you no longer have to work hard to live a lavish lifestyle your mind starts going to some weird places. Idle hands are the devil's playthings and all that.
Definitely. Notch was just chilling in that huge ass mansion he bought and Twitter came calling.
Yeah, he truly lost his purpose on life and became a shell of a man. Now all he does is tweet all day (over 100+ tweets per day) and complain about how lonely he is, it is very depressing stuff.
he should just get off of Twitter and problm solved. His beliefs are his, so to each their own.
@@1mclv his beliefs are definitely not his own that man defended making every mob in minecraft genderless before he sold it
@@Designed1 yes genderless in a game, not irl lol
Did not expect TRO to paraphrase Camus as “something a buddy said” I fuckin love this channel 😭
"appreciating good workmanship doesn't necessarily presuppose a complete endorsement of the person behind it"
more people need to remember this fact
That's only true if you aren't directly financially supporting that person. Like, go ahead and buy stuff based on Lovecraft, cause dude is dead and gone(thankfully), but if you buy a product from someone still alive and spreading hateful views you are directly endorsing them.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 Only if the product is a direct showcase of their beliefs and opinions. Having a completely different product to the creators opinions doesn't correlate to endorsement.
@P.M. it does if you are aware of those opinions. It takes nothing to not support them, it takes an active choice to support them knowing their opinions and that active choice is a direct endorsement.
@@casteanpreswyn7528 i i’m j hiiii in juj
@@p.m.7156 If buying a product does _anything_ positive for a garbage person, you sure as hell _are_ endorsing them. You can't just clear your conscience by denying this.
TRO is one of those channels i forget about until it uploads again and i have a little moment of joy or in this case 1 hour and 40 minutes
It’s still disapointing to see how everything shifted in what he said online, but honestly the 300k bonus to all previously employed people, and protecting them from layoffs, really did still get my respect. Plenty of studios when they get bought don’t do this sort of thing, mostly since they don’t have the ability to, to be fair, but it’s still just such a good thing.
one good deed does not make someone a good person. and keep in mind, his house was twice the price of giving each employee one million. and he gave them less than that. he has billions.
thats like bringing up that the racist down the street gave a homeless guy a dollar. except the dollar was more significant to the racist than .3 million was to persone
@@arcanealchemist3190 No one is a good person though. Everyone in the world will have baggage or problems, most of them just aren't public.
The heart is was decides if someone is good. We can't tell the thoughts of people or the genuineness behind what they say, because we can't read minds.
When people like you say "good person" or "decent person" you just mean compliant and non-controversial. Cultures always have taboo concepts and he talks about them.
Racial IQ differences as a field is off limits, if you pursue it you'll end your career and lose your financial stability.
Trans related stuff has a similar affect, though there is actually a counter to all of it. The entire field is pseudo-science that denies biology. Its only controversial because the people who go through with transition are essentially test subjects who have ruined their body, thus if presented with the facts are at risk of feeling terrible to put it lightly.
@@arcanealchemist3190 he gave them 300 thousand dollars, literally what more do you want. Let the man have his multimillion dollar mansion no matter how egregious. You just come off as greedy and no better than the man you claim is below most.
@@arcanealchemist3190 and guess what? he could have not thought of them at all, he couldve kept all the money and instead he gave 300k, a life changing amount, to everyone. That is something that only someone who is at least a slightly good man with good morals would do. you just feel like you have to hate the man and everything he stands for to be up on your high horse, like youre better than him in every way. come off it.
@@arcanealchemist3190 the point is it was a good thing, not a sudden "look hes a good person" moment
The phrase "separate art from artist" comes to mind, acknowledge the good while reprimanding the bad. Just like with role models, media, and many things in life, everyone should learn how to take and separate the good aspects of something so that it can be improved upon and acknowledged while rejecting and criticizing the bad.
Hyperbolic example but I can look at a murderer genuinely helping a old man with his groceries and say it's good deed and should happen more while also acknowledging the person themselves is awful.
I think people should just separate art from the artists, but the other way around
just because an artist did something you love, it doesnt stop them from doing bad deeds, and you should put your feelings for said art aside and call them out for it
He is not an artist lol just a fat bald programmer who got lucky by copying an existing idea and creating one of the ugliest, most lame games ever
I mean, okay? But you don't know them personally and it's way healthier to do the normal version of separating art from the artist: enjoying the art without bothering yourself with the artist's character.
I mean, It's hard. I can no longer listen to certain music without feeling guilty, knowing the artist is either a rapist, neo-Nazi, created a cult where members cut their sleeves, produced illegal content involving minors, and is probably in jail right now
What did he do? Make tweets on both sides of the same coin but the only ones you saw were the viral ones? Watch the video “notch- what we all got wrong” and you will see both sides
I remember when I was in high school, long before I heard about his fall from grace, I made a brochure containing Notch as one of my inspirations. Yeah, it’s aged horribly. 😅
It may have aged horribly but Notch still inspired you and that's a good thing. So don't feel too bad, you couldn't have known how Notch turned out.
Inspirations: Abraham Lincoln, William Shakespeare, Martin Luther King Jr., Nikola Tesla, Notch from Minecraft.
TRO, these aren't even essays, they're full documentaries. Thank you for all the work that you put into each one. Thanks for elevating this into bigger things to think about beyond just one person's life journey. 🙏
Too bad he keeps selecting shitty editors who just spam visuals
The end poem of Minecraft had me legitimately hysterical. Such a fantastic thing to read for anyone who feels lost or like they aren’t worth it.
I’m happy to hear the original writer is happy with their decision to leave it in the game.
I seriously hold it very close to my heart.
I remember when I read it for the first time, it felt so... serendipitous. It coincidentally articulated lot of ideas I had been particularly fixated on at the time, and not only spoke them back to me in the way I hadn't even known I'd been wanting someone to, but showed me that they were beautiful. Like looking at a mirror and seeing yourself smiling.
Eh, it's alright. I feel it's quite a bit pseudophilosophical and a lot of its merit comes down to people insinuating most of it. It says a lot to say very little I find, and beats around the bush to come down to a philosophical message I've seen communicated much better before.
@@littlemoth4956 I agree that its not as deep or complex for such a long piece, but the time It arrived was the time I needed it, and I heavily appreciate how it got me on the path to self worth.
Its not the what, but the when and where.
Most people finishing minecraft werent looking for that poem and didnt know how bad they needed to hear it, myself included.
But I see your point of view judging it blatantly on its quality outside of the context it was put in.
Yes! I’ve been waiting for a new video and I’m so curious how notch went from being so well liked to everyone hating him - thanks for the good work
Basically decided to do "ironic bigotry" to "victim of cancel culture" journey on Twitter long before Elon got in on the game.
Well first of all he created MMO and named it "Wurm Online" LMAO that's literally the WORST name for a game I have ever heard
@@Milkgurgle nooooOoo 😂 having Wurm in the name grosses me out. It sounds like a worm simulator
@@WhitneyDahlin worm simulator ftw!!!
tl;dr - He was too based.
Was literally just complaining about having nothing to listen to while I draw, followed by TRO coming in clutch!
I’m pretty sad he fell off the deep end, I used to idolize him a lot when I was younger and he seemed like a genuinely good guy. Sucks to see the pressure get to him like that
42:21
“Why do people hate me?”
“Well we where a bit shocked you would just drop us all like that. It’s cool now though.”
“F*ck you!”
Hey Notch, my guy, I think I’ve figured it out…
Guess he really didn't like it that
funniest part about the Q conspiracy was how consistently they were wrong about all of their predictions
They still think these things are going to happen. My poor idiot cousin fell into that hole and she STILL believes in everything saying shit like “You just watch!” To my mum seven days a week… (mum had to block her it got so bad)
@@lulub517 Don't try to reason with her, because I bet you've done that alright, right?
You provided evidence, context and general logic to debunk her claims, but he kept ignoring or denying your point, correct?
If I am right, you should just make fun of him, mock her, make him feel ashamed, so he at least doesn't spread his vile beliefs.
@@MrBell-iq3smhim?
@@MrBell-iq3sm Do NOT make fun of someone with severe trust issues. You will be part of the problem at best and cause a tragedy at worst.
@@strangejune If all attempts to reason failed and a person keeps associating with a bad crowd, spreading hate and vile beliefs, one should try more unreasonable approaches like mockery, something these Q-tards gleefully engage in, to make that person at least too ashamed to openly spread their hate and stupidity.
Bring up JKR and Ye were great comparisons. All three show how online spaces can radicalize people who were previously a ‘normie’. I thought your point on how people look for a problem to push back against was especially poignant. I hadn’t thought of that before but it makes SO MUCH SENSE. It explains the actions of a lot of ‘anti-woke’ celebrities who were considered more progressive previously
I mean, when someone says ‘we are all human’, it is ultimately true, whether someone’s at their highest highs, or lowest lows, we all have the benefits of humanity
Same for the detriments
i truly wish that instead of pushing back on social justice movements, they would push back against the bigoted establishments. leftist movements need the funding and vocal backing by respected celebrities, and yet they choose to go full nazi+transphobe instead.
To be fair Kanye has always had some wild/bad takes, the South Park episodes featuring him from 2009 mock the fact that he's always been unhinged.
Radicalize? You mean actually see the jews for what they are?
idk if jkr counts as internet radicalization... the bigotry and harmful stereotypes present in her books have been there since day one, ppl just didnt notice or didn't care. and ppl way more eloquent than me have discussed how the overall message of harry potter is very much in line with her current politics
I made my first TH-cam video on Minecraft back in like 2012, creators like Syndicate inspired me to grab a microphone and start telling stories and creating narratives in game. It's sad that Notch chose to behave the way he did but it's an interesting story of how money and fame can alter your judgement and views, ultimately turning your reputation on its head. Great job, man.
I've played this in alpha when it was hardly known. It was so bare bones compared to minecraft now.
Later, when the game was in its beta states, the mod community added an incredible amount of content. I loved that period.
It's still so crazy to me that this random grody ass man was able to claim ownership over Hatsune Miku's hard work when she created Minecraft.
Its a shame miku doesn't get the credit she deserves
What source is this?
Unfunny reddit meme
losing my mind at work, and seeing a new TRO update immediately makes my mind feel found again
I love that you don't push a ton of content and put your time and effort into masterpieces! ❤
I wish there was a dick sucking emoji
Notch, despite all his fame, success, and popularity, speaks a great deal to the characteristics I find common about most who have gone down the conspiracy rabbit hole. They are bereft of real secure attachments with other people and desperate to find a connection - only to find the illusion of a connection in a heavily radicalized community.
This exactly. I hear a lot of griping about being lonely and not taken seriously from someone who actively hates people like me and would gladly cut off my independence and legislate all my loved ones out of existence, and the irony is so thick I can't stand it.
It says a lot about a person, if one is beloved for their work by millions and billionaire and still unable to find friends.
Please keep in mind that he is Swedish... Sweden is not the usa.
So... In context... Suicide is big in Sweden, it's the solstice and the half darkness during a period of the year, being neighbor to russia doesn't help... And they are so dam awesome those vikings ❤ noch is not a viking tho.... He is just another usaer....
The inverse is also just as bad.
@@MrBell-iq3sm Not really. Your logic suggests that a very large part of making friends has to do with how much money you make, which says more about you than anyone else.
Top Notch video mate. Really notched it out of the park with this one.
Im notch in the mood for puns smh
Top notch comment notch. Really notched it out of the notch with this notch
Yet another notch on TRO's club for the fallen
Notch notch notch notch. Notch notch notch notch notch notch notch notch notch notch.
i loved that part where tro said "its notchin time" and notched all over twitter
Chronically online behaviour. I'm really glad I went to uni and experienced real life. Glad I pulled myself out of this rightwing rabbithole. Notch makes me think at what I could of ended up as, out of touch with the real world.
I just want to say, I appreciate you. It takes courage to self-reflect, challenge your beliefs, and grow out of that harmful mindset, and so way too many men don't bother and stay in their super messed up echo chamber.
Sadly, that same echo chamber is the reason I was forced to quit my career the game industry. I was doxxed by them during gamergate, and I had some really, *_really_* scary things happen to me. I had to walk away from a high paying career I loved for my own safety.
...And then here's Notch, who thinks I apparently deserved it, just cuz I'm a woman who liked video games. I stopped watching JonTron around this time, too. He has similar politics as Notch, and seems to have a pretty big chip on his shoulder towards women in general, too.
@@WobblesandBean Jontron? Can you share some of it?
Any rabbithole can be pretty destructive to the people that fall into it, there isn't anything right or left about it. I've went down some wack ones before and don't look back on those times with any sort of fondness
Uni isn't "experiencing life." It's literally just being forcefed left wing BS by college professors with an agenda to push. You weren't in a "right-wing rabbit hole" you just got told you were by college professors.
@@WobblesandBean The only echochamber that really exists is on the left, lmao.
I was aware of alot of this, but it's sad seeing what's happened to Notch as a person - he was a generally good person it seems before Minecraft and even during alot of his time with it. I think he went, well, bonkers due to all the issues you outlined. And Qanon offered a world view that 'explained' everything he felt was wrong. So sad that I don't think he's woken up to the bad path he took and he now is suck in a scenario where he is isolated by his previous statements, which makes it hard for people to reach him and get it through his head he was wrong. I don't know if he'll ever escape the effective loneliness. His success has weirdly messed him up.
I was a bit sad when I found out that they removed references to Notch even though I dislike him, there was just something about it that didn't feel right to me.
I am glad however that I haven't had a real reason to think about him since that stuff.
Also I wanted to make a side note that any individual tweeting 100+ a day definitely has a problem lol.
"any individual tweeting definitely has a problem lol."
FTFY
It's not like anybody will forget who created minecraft.
yeah, Its a shitty move. even if a creator is shitty, trying to scrub them out of the thing they helped create is wrong on principle. guys like walt disney or roald dahl weren't exactly saints by any standard, but we shouldn't pretend like they don't exist.
whos notch? i only know hatsune miku
Funny you say that, I've been achievement hunting on the Xbox One Edition of Minecraft and one of the achievements is to eat a 'Notch Apple' or in other words, a Golden Apple. Noticed it earlier and it did make me think of him
Shout Out to TRO! Dude needs more credit hes one of the few bigger creators i see who always credits his editors. That's what's up!
Viewers often forget theres several unknown unseen faces that help contribute to the art that we love.
It's always been sad to me, how far Notch fell. As an isolated trans kid minecraft was my safe haven for years. I was never upset when Notch stepped down, cause to me it seemed understandable to get overwhelmed and burnt out from trying to please everyone and keep your special project the way you envisioned it. It really does just sadden me that Notch didn't or couldn't keep the connections he made before minecraft became big. I feel like if he did he wouldn't have spiralled so far, and maybe he'd still have a community to come back to :/
It's kind of sad how notch just became another cog in the machine he swore he hated.
i think the biggest irony in Markus' entire life is that he stated that Steve, the Playable Character of Minecraft is supposed to be genderless.
Steve is obviously cubesexual
This is possibly a niche reflection but I feel it may be interesting.
There is this swedish tv-show titled The Playlist, and it's about the creation of Spotify. It is, of course, embelished to create an interesting narrative but it is based on the true story. The creator of Spotify, Daniel Ek, comes off as very similar to Notch. A solitary guy who created something that grew beyond imagination. Someone who was dedicated to their product, but seemingly were in over their head. The story of Playlist ends (Spoiler) much like the story of Notch: the creator went from being regarded as a genius to being seen as a piece of shit.
Point is, if I had a nickel for every time a Swedish man created a product that became globally known and then fell from grace, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
damn. this video is so strong. it’s almost a sucker punch. i’ll always remember my old 360 worlds, even my pocket edition world from when i was like 7. Minecraft is definitely my favorite game of all time, and a lot of that definitely has to do with the time i spent playing as a kid. i love this game so much, and thanks for reminding me why i liked it so much in the first place
Honestly glad Notch sold the game, even if it was to microsoft who could do a better job. These days no one talks about him and I even forget he exists most of the time, probably for the better.
I honestly haven't thought about the guy in over a year. The last time I actually thought or even spoke about Notch was back when I still played 2b2t, because that server is literally a time capsule of early 2010 Minecraft.
Even playing on the Xbox One Edition feels weird now.
Yeah, no. He should still be included. He literally created the game, you don't just get to ignore that because you disagree with him.
@@Clown_the_Clown I think his name should (obviously) stay in the credits, but otherwise, he absolutely can just be ignored (as in, literally; no-one needs to really think about him if they don't want to) since he really isn't actively involved in Minecraft anymore.
@@That_One_Xatu Nah, they should have kept the title texts.
For all the content Microsoft has added, the game is becoming more and more restricted by Microsoft. Notch never would have forced private servers to have big brother moderation like Microsoft recently has.
I've been a fan of minecraft ever since the beginning, and it was so sad watching Notch's downward spiral, amazing video! Xanderhal sent me.
You should stop watching Xanderthal, he's a fascist.
@@durshurrikun150 who is this xan guy?
@@QTwoSix *Xanderhal* is a streamer/TH-camr. Pretty good channel and he recommended TRO's video.
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As a little kid, I was in that part of the community who referred to Notch as "God". We knew it was mostly a joke, but he was also the creator of our favourite game, so that's just how we viewed him. I cringe when I think back to that time, but it makes me kinda sad too. It's a shame that he created so much dissonance between himself and the fanbase
One thing I really love about TRO is the use and highlighting of different editors, it keeps the videos interesting visually and gives editors more chances of showing their work! Keep it up!
Hearing TRO talking about the Yogs is so surreal, wasn’t expecting my favourite long-form youtuber to talk about my longest following channel
I work from home, at nights, and of course alone. I tell people Tro is my coworker so I can get off the phone quicker when I don't wanna talk. 10/10 best coworker ever.
It's almost mind-blowing how Notch over time has become such a strong personification of "die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain". It's soberingly, and somberly, fascinating to see how, for whatever reasons, a person who on the outside has everything (wealth, success, influence, respect, etc.) seemingly does everything they can to sabotage their life. Almost a race to the bottom, so they can fight their way to a new zenith.
We witness it time and time again. It's somewhat saddening to see it repeatedly play out with many public figures.
Something I find interesting with the comparison to JK Rowling is the difference in control over their works. Notch has since cashed out and doesn't gain much from the continued sale of the game, while JK has since made it explicit that she will never let go, and there are many problems and red flags within the work itself. Notch's goal was to separate himself to give each person an individual experience. Rowling has tied herself to hp so deeply that it reflects her thoughts and opinions at its core. The antisemitism in minecraft is very simple to remove, but slavery, racism, and the unwillingness to change are the core of hp.
Antisemitism in Minecraft?
@@max3446 Yeah it's been pointed out a few times that the villagers are an antisemitic caricature, but it's pretty vague unless you look deeper into Notch's views.
@@dangerousbutterknife7988 Yeah, I figured that's what you might be referring to. Given that afaik the villagers were added before Notch went down the Qanon rabbit hole I'm inclined to think that they were not intended to be antisemitic, but I haven't looked super deep into it so I might be wrong.
@@dangerousbutterknife7988 What how?
Say sike right now!
@@dangerousbutterknife7988 nah, can't be antisemitic you are making it up!
Brilliant ending, speaks for itself I'd say but the problem is people in Notch's situation or falling down a pipeline need things to be a bit more on the nose. Options are optimal. Giving others the option to choose whenever that doesn't infringe on ones own basic needs is too good to pass up. Letting people identify with their pronouns is a minuscule sacrifice to make (if it can even be considered that) For all the other human rights it gives them by extension. Trans lives, Black lives, all minority lives and individuals or groups struggling with underrepresentation and systematic oppression matter. Don't lose sight of egalotarianism.
But not white people?
So: All lives matter!
@@blakeduckly2875cracker spotted
This is an interesting one. I never really keep up with Notch. I didn't think he had a fall out like this sadge. Crazy how often it seems minecraft creators burn out n stuff.
Lmao- you comparing Notch to the MC creators is pretty funny in itself. I do agree though, I never realized how bad it was.
I’d say his demise was inevitable when you consider how big MC was back before the internet was as widely accessible, gaming and indie games were big.
@Ice Wolf their was a joke about him being THE creator but I wasn't smart enough
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogsinternet came to the public in the 90s btw
@@KazuhiraMiller46 Ik but it wasn’t widely used due to the costs and the technology at the time. You could make the argument that Tetris is the biggest indie game as that’s literally the first ever indie game and has been successful since it’s creation. I was more referring to how Notch made an entire thing before gaming was widely known as a $ machine and before the internet was widely used as it is now.
@@D44RK_Iced_Yogs you serious? The Internet was still massive in 2009 when the game came out.
I think you're mixing up the time that smartphones came about, mainly with the original iPhone in 2007, and the rise of the Internet in general.
Computers were already widespread, especially in developed countries, by then. It's just the smartphone segment that has quite literally exploded
The tendency of some whose chief interest is the wellbeing of others while never practicing or even being aware of what's best for them actually has an official name. It's called a savior complex, and though I'm not sure it's applicable to Notch, it is something I, regrettably, have had something of a history with.
Savior Complex....with issues such as global warming and trans rights!!!
@@hansjuker8296 what about trans wrongs?
@@quaygrass6212 😳
Looking back, a game like minecraft was always inevitable. Its a simple concept with much potential. Notch alone (with his team) could have never produced what we have gotten today. I am very curious to see what you have to say about his legacy!
I like this idea. Another sort of Minecraft-esque situation that happened with VR games is Beat Saber. That game is like... Top VR game according to a lot of people.
I'm happy that Notch created Minecraft, and as much as Microsoft have messed around with the game, I'm overall happy with it. The game in it's current state is such a departure from the older versions, 1.7 and below.
Seriously, I booted up Xbox 360 Edition not long ago and it feels like I got transported back ten years.
I mean, there's a reason people call Bedrock the Bugrock Edition.
@@sabersz i totally agree. Both Mineecraft and beat saber are to simple that they just HAD to be created at some point. I'm glad beat saber had such a great look out from the beginning and i'm also glad notch gave the responsibility to a greater in size company after it got too much too handle alone.
Garry's Mod:Am I a joke to you?
Time to settle in with a sleepy toddler. These are some of my favorite videos on the platform ❤
this comment is so sweet
'Happy birthday. I love you.' Made me weirdly teary-eyed, even after all the insane and hateful tweets. Maybe it's your compassionate coverage, but this story feels more sad than anything. I've never seen a Twitter account that was so clearly a cry for help. I hope he gets it.
I don’t care that every vid takes about 3-4 months to come out these hour long vids are a treat
people are disgusting, they can support bigotry if its from someone who made something they like. I grew up with things like minecraft and harry potter too, and I can still like those things without trying to justify their horrible creators
For me, I find it difficult to enjoy Harry Potter these days. Joanne's recent slew of bigotry has prompted many people to go back and re-read her books more closely, and it turns out that there's been a heaping helping of unsavory subtext in her writings all along. Her antics on Twitter have poisoned her previous work, because it's now evident that she's been a terribly insensitive, judgmental shrew all along; it turns out that any takeaways we had as children about becoming better, more open-minded people were completely accidental.
Agreed. I hate the "separate the art from the artist" defense, because supporting their art means GIVING THEM MONEY. Sorry, but thinking women, certain races, and the LGBT community shouldn't have basic human rights is a pretty clear sign that you're a terrible person who shouldn't get rich off the backs of the same people they staunchly believe should be forced against the wall.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter I'm amazed people didn't realize it sooner. I saw the subtext from the beginning, and have you seen her other non HP books? My god, she is overt about her hatred of fat people, poor people, black people, indian people, and gay people.
@@WobblesandBean at least botch doesn’t make any money from minecraft anymore as far as I know
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter I think the fans were just better at constructing a meaningful story and theme out of jowling kowling's crappy writing 😊
The Infiniminer code was leaked, that is how Notch started the Cave Game. He wasn't inspired and then coded it from scratch, he downloaded and edited it, mapping on his own textures that are from other games he has made. This isn't to downplay anything, if you look at his previous games, he always had a game like Minecraft in his mind, but the leaked source code was the final thing he needed to put all his ideas together. Also he didn't come up with the name Minecraft, someone in one of his chats did. It's kind of like Apple, they had an idea they were trying to achieve with the personal computer, then one day they seen Xerox PARCs GUI and mouse etc, and that was what Steven Jobs needed to finally put all his ideas together and make something great. The infiniminer source code is Notches Xerox.
Always feels good to wake up to another TRO upload
4:08 My heart broke seeing Techno there again omg.
Your insights are really impressive. The “Resources, time, and purpose” thing was a brilliantly simple visualization. You really have a gift of breaking big concepts down into it digestible parts. Bravo sir
TRO back right when we needed him most. Welcome back Captain 🫡
He talks all mellow and friendly at the end because TRO wants us to forget he has Internet Historian locked up in his basement, and a couple more.
#NeverForget
You already know it's going to be a banger when it hits almost 2 hours. Love the longer content.
The editors are always so good. The team crushed it again. Great video all around. I've never played Minecraft but it's still been a shame to see Notch go down the roads he did.
I'm glad you're not just demonising Notch for some of his beliefs, but actually try to figure out how he ended up where he is now. That's how we should engage with people like him, give them a hand and understanding but don't just dismiss their sometimes dangerous ideologies
I wholeheartedly agree
I also think if you're in conversation with someone like that, asking why they feel that way about something or how they came to a conclusion, it can help understand them and maybe even help you to convey your side of things
I refuse to reason with nazis
Shuniji is one of my favourites, it somehow makes me feel like how time is dripping away, and things are... moving, whether we like it or not, and everything shifts around us. It felt fitting for Notch really, I believe too that the problem with him was indeed mostly that he was cast into a sandbox world irl without having any goal there.
fantastic video!!! as somebody who has both fallen down the alt-right internet pipeline before and has been falling back in love with minecraft lately, this video really touched me. It's tragic seeing a talented guy who seemed kind at one point descend into such intense twitter madness.
I'm very impressed with the opening sequence at 14:33! Great work by all the editors as always
Anyone here after he talked about a “Minecraft 2” wonder if this drama will resurface if it comes out
"The year is whatever it is right now, who bloody knows" - TRO 2023
Just when needed, another TRO!
Ren & Stimpy, Earthworm Jim, Harry Potter and Minecraft: these four franchises have ascended beyond the the need from a creator who is no longer popular.
I'd argue three out of those four are still very popular, just not popular with wokies.
@@numbersstationsarchive194 So you don't like them? Using DeSantis definition you are woke.
@@alexandrebelair4360 Kek what the fuck are you talking about bro
I thought it was well known that Hatsune Miku was the creator of Minecraft.
I met Notch once at an event in I think 2010 or 2011. He was really lovely, grounded and humble. It's very sad to see the person he became.
Its crazy to think how his own "fans" hated him while he was popular, and eventually it drove him to accepting the hate and using it as validation for his beliefs. Also it sucks he was actually right about the free speech thing, its genuinely no longer a thing where i live
minecraft has been the best thing that has happened to me . as a weird and autistic kid - minecraft just spelled out everything for me . i made friends i wouldnt have been able to through it , i was allowed to be weird and cringe through it .
but with that , i am also trans and gay .
Notch used to be my idol , he was low end and "weird" , so when i first had internet access , i found his tumblr and read through everything i could . And then 2019-2020 rolled around . obviously i just couldnt continue being fine with him as an idol or just someone i looked up to . that hurt .
i often look back and wonder why he fell in the alt-right pipeline even though he isnt an american . sad to see politics and paranoia destroy someone so deeply
The Harry Potter fandom has a lot of the same struggles I hear, and your far from alone in the minecraft community on this. You made Minecraft yours, and Notch stopped caring about it a long time ago. You don't need him as an idol.
But I get it, sucks to see someone you looked up to show such ugly true colours.
Found the groomer
@@numbersstationsarchive194 of course the conservative's only response is the latest buzzword they learned to parrot from corporate owned Fox.
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Ah yes call the autistic person a groomer that's definitely a nice thing to doooooo~
Not.
I use to play Minecraft quite a lot when Notch was involved but actively refused to look into this dude thanks to the crytoic stuff that happened as i guess I didn’t want to know. Thank goodness I didn’t, I use to be all about what others thought then as well and I might not have transitioned if so.
Is it weird to have my mood genuinely change when I see tro uploads? It legitimately makes my day better. Even if I don’t quite have time to watch it yet, like looking forward to getting to watch it when I get time seriously makes me happy.
This is what TRO thinks is a “short” video
1:00:56 100% notch was referring to bill C-16 in canada that conservatives stated would ‘throw you in jail for getting pronouns wrong’ but it was just legal protection of gender identity in regards to rights and such
It’s insane how Jordan Peterson built his entire political following around opposing a reasonable bill that didn’t even say what he thought it said.
@@coadekatits insane how you think that it isnt. It doesnt have to be word for word verbatim what he said for it to be what is possible under it. The legislation was worded so poorly that it could be used to persecute people for misgendering. Something so poorly worded should not be legislation no matter what its supposed "intent" is. Its like making a bill called the "save puppys" bill, and sneaking in wording that would allow you to put political rivals in prison, and then getting mad when people question it.
@@BranH-m6pthere's a difference between hate speech and accidentally misgendering someone. Hi Canadian here, almost everyone in my school would be in jail if what he says was true.
@@adrianthetheygo back to saying “FREE 🇵🇸” and hating Jews since it’s politically acceptable for the left to do it, while canceling Kanye for the very same thing LMFAO
@@BranH-m6p Literally none of that is true lol
Notch isn't the only person I know who lost / completed their primary purpose in life, became isolated and embroiled in online politics and conspiracy theories, alienating and pushing away friends and family. It's a vicious cycle people become engaged in because they desperately need *something* to care and fight for, and for some reason this kind of stuff seems easy to fall for for this demographic.
I don’t think I can hate Notch. He was a normal person with billions of dollars dropped into his lap and nothing to spend it on. He wasn’t making games anymore and was searching for a purpose and so he found one that suited his personality, rallying against something bigger than himself. A lack of purpose is never good for the human mind. It makes us listless and desperate and Notch made it clear that’s exactly how he felt.
I hope that he finds a purpose in whatever game he was talking about making this year, it’ll be good for his mind to put himself to work again.
Human rights are not political opinions.
I got a Minecraft title text that said, "Your gender is valid!!!", Which is one good way to demonstrate how Mojang doesn't agree with Notch's morals.
I think Notch cared a lot about the community his game created, and then he felt they turned against him when all the cruel comments rolled in. It wounded him and affected his faith in humanity. I've heard TH-cam content creators describe this too. When you're small, people are mostly supportive. When your channel takes off, random people show up and sling ignorant sh**. If he had hired someone to filter the feedback, it might have all turned out differently.
I do believe we need to separate the artist from the art. If not, we would not have much art left. Writers, painters, actors, directors, producers, musicians, philosophers, have often said or done bad things or held bad views. It is more the rule than the exception. I think that artists often give the best part of themselves to their art, leaving little for the people in their lives.
That said, artists should not be immune from criticism for the bad things that they say and or do.
It's a tricky line, especially in this age of social media. But if you really don't want to give an artist your money by paying for their work, because you don't like them, that is fair, but get it some other way. Second hand, or from a library, or whatever. But don't deprive yourself of the art itself. These are two separate things. And we all need art.
when the world needed him most, he returned
His mistake was coming to America. I'd vanish into a cabin in the mountains of Sweden with a nice view of a fjord and never come back. A billion dollars can buy you a nice gaming rig and a lifetime of fresh coffee.
No fjords nor mountains in Sweden😂
I'm a post operative transgender and this video sort of struck a chord in me. Back in 2012 when I had my surgery I could hardly believe it was finally happening, the culmination of everything I had been working towards for the then 10 years of my adult life. Yet when I finally had the surgery I felt empty, like my purpose for living was gone, like I'd reached the end credits in a movie that just kept going. It took me close to 10 years to find a new purpose again as a student nurse, but it was hard to draw a line under my previous struggles and shift my attention to something new. Perhaps that's how it was for Notch.
@Wyrna Thankyou
It makes me so happy and is so inspiring to see trans people that are many years into it and are thriving, I'm 2 years FTM on HRT but no surgery there's a good amount of rough days at this stage thanks for sharing it really does help ❤
@@Shortkingharry For what it's worth it gets better. Just make sure that you have a new dream to dedicate yourself to when you've achieved your current dream. For me becoming a nurse was a way to make a positive impact on the world, feel good about my existence, and make friends. You need to decide what you want out of life, what you need to achieve it, and set your sights on that path. Your current struggle will end far sooner than you realise so look to the future! :)
Ah yeah, nothing like the TheRightOpinion uploading a new video, can’t wait to binge this video when I get home from work.
I’m very interested to see how Notch fell from grace, the only thing I know about this subject is the SunnyV2 video but I’m pretty sure that video is a year old.