@@donjuan6646 - At that price, it should also come with an AI assistant and a years worth of Omaha steaks. Six 12-volt 100AH LiFePO4 batteries provide almost 7% more capacity and can be purchased for less than $900 ($150 each).
I built my own 560ah battery same sells cost me around 1000 Australian dollars and has been working perfectly for 4 years it’s also running a 3000w inverter every day
Cool,. where did you get all your gear, buying something like this from O/S would be crazy! I would prefer to do a local build for my caravan for something like this. Live in Wodonga.
Thumbs up to Li Time they are looking professional. And with the testing that has been completed we can see that all is going smoothly. Thanks again for your post.
the noise I just made seeing the delivery guy just let that box drop from the back of his truck...ho...leee...sheet. I don't really want to criticize him too much b/c he should never have been put in that sort of situation; one person should never be tasked with that sort of weight for a non-freight delivery, but man, this is just un-sat all around. I'm surprised it survived the way it did. Great review as always!
I work for FedEx Ground. We have a 150 lb. weight limit. He should have asked for help if anyone was home. If not, most drivers have a dolly and the side door is much lower to the ground and should have used that.
Great comment and video on this shipping! I've had problems with this myself with furniture, some of the items ended up completely distorted, replacements were shipped freight. Just because a shipper says they'll ship a certain size and weight doesn't mean it's a good way to ship. With that video the maker may also be able to employ a packing specialist to design packing that would protect the item. Oh, and thanks for the battery review!
Nice review as usual. However, I just realized that I haven't seen a Lithium Solar video for several months. I just checked and I am still subscribed. I guess YT is screwing around, yet again with the viewer metrics.
Yeah show that video to LiTime. They will change delivery companies! Or show that to the delivery company. See how long he will be working for them. I have the LiTime 200ah batteries. I have had them for four years, and exercise them often. Like everyday, except when we are in RV parks, flushing tanks, and getting ready to get back out, and away from the RV parks. We love them. I will be upgrading in about 10 years. Then I will purchase the bigger batteries. Bigger the battery, the less balancing that has to be done.
It's nice to see a company using the standard 280Ah-size batteries for these prebuilts. This is the kind of battery I'd expect to last the 20-30+ years LFP is capable of.
Hi, I'm new to your channel. Started watching about 4 months ago. Just getting into learning about lithium and building battery banks ,have a long way to go with learning about electricity, much more of a wrench monkey, then a sparky😅, Thank you Helpin me learn more
Wow looks like he must have worked for ups or wait forgot they like to loose there packages all the time sorry hate ups been waiting over a month for some car parts that they keep loosing and its not the first time just cant aford better shipping. Nice video definitely a good looking battery!!!!!
Great tip for the delivery, now I gotta watch the tracking like a hawk and ensure I'm ready to run out and help the delivery guy get my batteries off the truck 😅
I have two of these in my RV with 1200W on the roof, a MP2 and all the rest of the Victron goodies. Bought them right when they were released this summer. I suppose I rolled the dice a bit, but they've been great thus far. We've boondocked a few times and wanted for nothing. Only bummers for me are: no Bluetooth for BMS/cell telemetry (but I knew that going in) and I wish I knew more about how their BMS works; e.g. balancing details, etc. Thanks for reviewing this battery. Yours is the first I've seen for this specific model. Oh and LOL on the FedEx driver! HA! Luckily mine were pristine (FedEx from CA as well).
😂 I was thinking the same thing! Every thumbs down is a UPS or FedEx driver! I don’t blame them either. They’d probably kick it too if it wouldn’t break their foot in the process.
@@maurice7413 he didn't even try to help it to the ground, he rolls it out and just let go for the hardest fall possible. That driver shouldn't be a driver.
@@yelims20 I can see you've never handled multiple heavy packages in one day. " 70 lbs for FedEx Express U.S. shipments. It’s important to check the weight limits for your specific service and destination to avoid any issues."
you are correct. Last night I had my batteries at 52.9 volts and 90%, this morning still 52.9 but at 80%. glad I bought bluetooth. 12 12 volt 100 ah and adding 4 more.
The extra wiring to plum 5-6 batteries together will create imbalances between the batteries no matter how careful one is in making the cables for them..This would be a good study to see the difference between the big battery & the group of batteries. I am weight limited in my RV so I want to keep the batter size to around 100 lbs max since I also have to consider the 3KW inverter & BIS components.
The internal construction of the battery looks good, but it's slightly expensive. I'm currently using the Vatrer 12V 460Ah, and they seem to be positioned differently. This big guy seems more suitable for energy storage, while Vatrer is marketed for RV use.
Weight is kinda crazy. I cant really think of an application where that would make sense. The 60lb 280ah batteries are hard enough to move around, and two of those is actually cheaper than one of these.
Thanks for this helpful Video. Great work! I plan to use this same battery as a cheaper and for more capacity alternative to an Extra Ecoflow Delta 2 max Smart battery. I did get an Ecoflow Alternator charger and I plan on using that to charge this battery as storage and send that power to my power station to supplement, and reverse charge all using the EF Alternator Charger when the LiTime needs to be charged. I hope it works as I theorized it would.
Being so heavy is another reason to by cells and build you own battery. In a perfect world, all handers use lifts and two wheelers, you would be more likely to not have drops and such.
@stevecarlisle3323 It maybe about the same weight, but will be in many boxes. Like the battery cell are usually sent in four per box and four boxes for the 16 total.
I'd like to see someone show this type of battery along with an inverter capable of producing 220-230V AC output at least 15A. I checked the litime website and they don't have one. I want to power a 220V single phase tablesaw no matter where I am.
Hello sir , well it is what it is the shipper is to maker every package with weight and the driver is able to see how much the package weights ! I have the same problem with the same company while ups have hand truck or they’ll make me pick a nearest location if I was you I’ll put in a complain maybe it was sent to for review but you need a complete one to a make sure it’s delivered defects??
Is it possible to have a solar oanel array thats too small to charge this thing.. better yet whats the minimum amount of solar this thing can work on?😊
It's a nice battery but it seems like the price per KWh is kinda high compared to their other batteries. I appreciate the review though. Your vids were instrumental in my designing an entire solar/Lipo4 system for my RV. Thanks!
@LithiumSolar, during capacity test there's a tablet displaying values, a power supply and some hardware (I see a shunt and some other board). What are those parts and where do you buy them?
It's amazing how much prices have dropped in the last few years. When I started with the solar/battery hobby, LFP was unaffordable for the average DIYer and we were scrounging for recycled batteries to build with.
That driver is a straight up man child. I’m surprised your battery wasn’t damaged. a battery that large I’d recommend picking up yourself. Delivery on a pallet will cost you a bit.
WT is similar to a 5k gas generator. Not too bad, i'm surprised it doesn't come with wheels and a handle. But i guess you can just use a handtruck to move it to its home. But this isn't really a shipping friendly weight.
Would this battery be compatible with my stock 50 AMP WFCO WF-9855 converter and Xantrek 1200? I would like to purchase a battery to get me through and use when upgrading the system later.
Question how would 2 of theses Batteries work on my 18 wheeler being it's case is made of metal do they have a option with case made out of some type of None metallic material and also does this charge off of a good alternator plus shore power and handle extreme heat and cold.? Thank U
In some other batteries that claimed 15k cycles it was for 60% DoD, 6k for 80% and 4k cycles for 100%. I think 20 years (more than 7000 cycles) would be killer, since who will be around then? Probably most killed or in technocracy. and then if that is not the case, much newer and cheaper technology will come. For batteries to match solar panels life is crazy. Good of course
@@tomwilliam5118QR codes are used to store data. That can be a web address but it doesn't have to be. It can data in a proprietary format that only has meaning to a particular software application
Cool, did you ever setup the batrium with the eg4 6000xp? Just got started setting them up in lead acid mode for now. Wasn't sure if you had done it with your old battery setup.
For the asking price, I'd expect a lot more features, and they couldn't add enough features for me to contemplate a purchase at anywhere near their asking price as is. There's plenty of space in the case for heaters and a simple W1209 thermostat or the likes. Bluetooth isn't a feature I prefer, but that doesn't take much space either. Is this called planned evolution, me thinks so.
I wouldn't exactly call that a controlled drop. It should not have been dropped at all. That should not be tolerated by any shipper. Signature Solar sends their batteries out strapped to a pallet, but their shipping costs way more. I gladly paid it tho to ensure something like that never happened.
I assembled 7kWh battery myself for approx $800 (8*EVE 280k + JKBMS + case), buying locally in Ukraine. Had I ordered from China, it could have been $600. $1500 seems really overpriced, especially as it does not have any nice features like automatic self-heating.
Questionable grade of cells, no matter what the qr code says. This battery would need at least a 2amp balancer to keep cells in line. At this price point I'd bet the cells aren't grade a. To finish this review you would need to take milliamp readings from each cell which would entail further disassembly then at least 10 full cycles and check the balancing. I also wonder if those welds will hold when the cells expand. I'm not a fan of the bms's that use multiple wires. I use single terminal with 2awg cable with crimped terminals, no sodder.
Thank you for the review. I can't find any UL certifications in the specs, do you know if this battery has those? Without a UL 1973 and UL9540, I just don't see how I can buy this battery and pass Inspections for a Solar System in the USA. Also could you explain the price per kWh?
@@LithiumSolar Ok. I wish they would get those UL certs. They are clearly focusing their marketing materials on those markets, with Amzn headlines like "Perfect for Solar System, RV, Off Grid, Home Energy Storage"... Which is odd since they don't have the certifications? They simply don't meet NEC standards without those certifications where they do inspections for code compliance in most states.
Why should it be higher? It's a 12V battery. If you don't need a 12V battery then don't buy one? I don't understand the question. It's a 12V battery for 12V power systems.
@@LithiumSolar its high a capacity battery. Most will not even consider to build such system with so low 12v system. You must add in your thinking the complete system not just the battery.
@@pearlrival3124 If you already have the larger gauge wire and can make use of it, it makes zero difference, IMO. (most of my setups are 24V and I'm still adding 24V gear) Except for the BMS on the 12V which limits to 3000W output...
The delivery guy definitely caused that dent on the cell. If you are not strong, careful or able to use common sense, you should be doing that kind of work. I’m a delivery driver and deal with heavier items than that, sometime by hand and a dolly. I’m always extra careful in handling the items and using common sense.
To be fair, that is a lot for one driver to handle - that's why I think it should be going freight instead of ground w/ trolly. BUT FedEx also accepts up to 150lbs for ground service, so.... he should have the proper equipment for delivery regardless. Just my thoughts.
Mick Australia 🇦🇺.? Question. Is this a one of...... they sent to you. Please buy or get from a store. To see if the same. For me alot of thinking went into the build. No complaints 8.00 time in. God bless mate
I'm not familiar with the properties of lead batteries. I didn't think you needed a BMS with lead. They do make balancers I know though, which will probably help extend the life of the battery - Victron has one.
LiTime 560Ah... www.litime.com/products/12v-560ah-low-temp-protection-lifepo4-battery/?ref=lithiumsolar
LiTime 280Ah... www.litime.com/products/12v-280ah-plus-lifepo4-battery/?ref=lithiumsolar
LiTime 560Ah... amzn.to/3MQhNHW (Amazon)
LiTime 280Ah... amzn.to/3Zv1WFz (Amazon)
(affiliate links)
They will soon come out with Bluetooth version .
oh look, an affiliate link 😉
Hi. Can you Please tell me what App you use on your tablet for battery tests. I really want to use that same app
Thank You.
@@donjuan6646 - At that price, it should also come with an AI assistant and a years worth of Omaha steaks. Six 12-volt 100AH LiFePO4 batteries provide almost 7% more capacity and can be purchased for less than $900 ($150 each).
I built my own 560ah battery same sells cost me around 1000 Australian dollars and has been working perfectly for 4 years it’s also running a 3000w inverter every day
Cool,. where did you get all your gear, buying something like this from O/S would be crazy! I would prefer to do a local build for my caravan for something like this. Live in Wodonga.
1000 dollarydoos! Oh crikey!
What's the name of the battery you use
Even grade B cells 4 years ago were more than that. Today I can buy a 300ah 12v for $500 already built.
I have a 1200 ah setup here in my van I live in
Holy cow that is just huge!!! 🤯
Be sure to lift with your back, not your knees 👍
Oh darn, that bent cell looks awful :(
Oh you recorded in 4K! niceee
Look at the clip in the summary chapter where the delivery dude rolled it off the back of the truck... I'm pretty sure that's why it's dented.
It's at 12:18
Excellent review!
Controlled drop by fed comment was very generous! I am surprised he didn’t leave it where it landed!
You're absolutely the best reviewer of this kind on the internet! THANKS!!
He is good but aint no Will Prowse, lol.
This battery is well buit, it survived the Fedex drop test.
Thumbs up to Li Time they are looking professional. And with the testing that has been completed we can see that all is going smoothly. Thanks again for your post.
is a great company
the noise I just made seeing the delivery guy just let that box drop from the back of his truck...ho...leee...sheet. I don't really want to criticize him too much b/c he should never have been put in that sort of situation; one person should never be tasked with that sort of weight for a non-freight delivery, but man, this is just un-sat all around. I'm surprised it survived the way it did. Great review as always!
I work for FedEx Ground. We have a 150 lb. weight limit. He should have asked for help if anyone was home. If not, most drivers have a dolly and the side door is much lower to the ground and should have used that.
Great comment and video on this shipping! I've had problems with this myself with furniture, some of the items ended up completely distorted, replacements were shipped freight. Just because a shipper says they'll ship a certain size and weight doesn't mean it's a good way to ship. With that video the maker may also be able to employ a packing specialist to design packing that would protect the item. Oh, and thanks for the battery review!
4 in series makes for quite a big battery, more than twice the capacity of a Tesla powerwall II at way less than half the price!
Nice review as usual. However, I just realized that I haven't seen a Lithium Solar video for several months. I just checked and I am still subscribed. I guess YT is screwing around, yet again with the viewer metrics.
I haven't published as many as I used to. Maybe they don't like that...?
Excellent review ! How rare to hear such refined work. Jim
Great build, well done Litime
Some kind of cushion under that drop would have substantially helped mitigate damage.
Yeah show that video to LiTime. They will change delivery companies! Or show that to the delivery company. See how long he will be working for them. I have the LiTime 200ah batteries. I have had them for four years, and exercise them often. Like everyday, except when we are in RV parks, flushing tanks, and getting ready to get back out, and away from the RV parks. We love them. I will be upgrading in about 10 years. Then I will purchase the bigger batteries. Bigger the battery, the less balancing that has to be done.
It's nice to see a company using the standard 280Ah-size batteries for these prebuilts. This is the kind of battery I'd expect to last the 20-30+ years LFP is capable of.
30 years? I think that's REALLY stretching it but would be awesome for sure!
Great review! Thanks for the low temp charging shut off test! Wish they had an option for adding heating pads and Bluetooth. Cheers!
Great looking battery. Weight is what holding back larger batteries.
shouldnt have to freight this. he should have used his dolly. this was unexcusable in the logistics industry.
What options do you have if they don't use a freight company 🤔
As someone who works for ups, this weight is ridiculous for handling by delivery!
Agreed. Vacuum packed mattresses are shipped every day at over 200lbs. This is a piece of cake compared to those beasts. Lazy or incompetent driver.
@@vladimus9749 FedEx max delivery for Ground is 150 lbs.
They should supply the drivers with Steriods if they are expected to lift boxes over 100lbs all day.
Hi, I'm new to your channel. Started watching about 4 months ago. Just getting into learning about lithium and building battery banks ,have a long way to go with learning about electricity, much more of a wrench monkey, then a sparky😅, Thank you Helpin me learn more
big battery, big globs of solder. good video
Wow looks like he must have worked for ups or wait forgot they like to loose there packages all the time sorry hate ups been waiting over a month for some car parts that they keep loosing and its not the first time just cant aford better shipping. Nice video definitely a good looking battery!!!!!
Can the battery be placed on its side, terminals facing up?
Great tip for the delivery, now I gotta watch the tracking like a hawk and ensure I'm ready to run out and help the delivery guy get my batteries off the truck 😅
Great video, you are a library of good information.
I have two of these in my RV with 1200W on the roof, a MP2 and all the rest of the Victron goodies. Bought them right when they were released this summer. I suppose I rolled the dice a bit, but they've been great thus far. We've boondocked a few times and wanted for nothing. Only bummers for me are: no Bluetooth for BMS/cell telemetry (but I knew that going in) and I wish I knew more about how their BMS works; e.g. balancing details, etc. Thanks for reviewing this battery. Yours is the first I've seen for this specific model. Oh and LOL on the FedEx driver! HA! Luckily mine were pristine (FedEx from CA as well).
You must be Rich
@@coreybabcock2025 Well, he WAS rich. 😅
delivery driver gets a thumbs down
pretty sure the dent cause by drop off just like that to the ground
😂 I was thinking the same thing! Every thumbs down is a UPS or FedEx driver! I don’t blame them either. They’d probably kick it too if it wouldn’t break their foot in the process.
No driver should have to lift 133 pounds. I blame the shipper. They should have specified "Lift Truck Needed."
@@maurice7413 he didn't even try to help it to the ground, he rolls it out and just let go for the hardest fall possible. That driver shouldn't be a driver.
@@yelims20 I can see you've never handled multiple heavy packages in one day.
" 70 lbs for FedEx Express U.S. shipments. It’s important to check the weight limits for your specific service and destination to avoid any issues."
The absolute main feature I’m personally looking for is a Bluetooth BMS. Without one, it’s kinda blind knowing what’s going on - current draw & SOC
you are correct. Last night I had my batteries at 52.9 volts and 90%, this morning still 52.9 but at 80%. glad I bought bluetooth. 12 12 volt 100 ah and adding 4 more.
Just get a battery monitor
what is the use case for this though? It is currently priced at 3x the cost of simply running 5 100ah batteries for the same storage capacity.
The extra wiring to plum 5-6 batteries together will create imbalances between the batteries no matter how careful one is in making the cables for them..This would be a good study to see the difference between the big battery & the group of batteries. I am weight limited in my RV so I want to keep the batter size to around 100 lbs max since I also have to consider the 3KW inverter & BIS components.
The internal construction of the battery looks good, but it's slightly expensive. I'm currently using the Vatrer 12V 460Ah, and they seem to be positioned differently. This big guy seems more suitable for energy storage, while Vatrer is marketed for RV use.
I want 2 of these for my off grid home stead lol
LiTime is the new budget friendly winner.
Weight is kinda crazy. I cant really think of an application where that would make sense. The 60lb 280ah batteries are hard enough to move around, and two of those is actually cheaper than one of these.
Agreed!
Thanks for this helpful Video. Great work! I plan to use this same battery as a cheaper and for more capacity alternative to an Extra Ecoflow Delta 2 max Smart battery. I did get an Ecoflow Alternator charger and I plan on using that to charge this battery as storage and send that power to my power station to supplement, and reverse charge all using the EF Alternator Charger when the LiTime needs to be charged. I hope it works as I theorized it would.
I could be comfortably off grid with two of these.
could get two 12.8v 300ah batteries for about $800 half the price, but takes up double the space.
Agree 💯 people just like to spend to much money
Just looked at their website. The UK site only has 4 batteries available, 1x200ah, 2x100ah and a 50ah. The US site has dozens!
Being so heavy is another reason to by cells and build you own battery. In a perfect world, all handers use lifts and two wheelers, you would be more likely to not have drops and such.
Can you build you own battery using the same components, that will be lighter, and by how much 🤔
@stevecarlisle3323 It maybe about the same weight, but will be in many boxes. Like the battery cell are usually sent in four per box and four boxes for the 16 total.
Just ordered 4 of these. Thanks so much for making this
You must be Rich
@ it’s an investment to knock out the monthly power bill so I’m richer in the long run
I'd like to see someone show this type of battery along with an inverter capable of producing 220-230V AC output at least 15A. I checked the litime website and they don't have one. I want to power a 220V single phase tablesaw no matter where I am.
Checkout inverters from EDECOA.
They do what you are looking for, a 3500 Watt inverter.
Hello sir , well it is what it is the shipper is to maker every package with weight and the driver is able to see how much the package weights ! I have the same problem with the same company while ups have hand truck or they’ll make me pick a nearest location if I was you I’ll put in a complain maybe it was sent to for review but you need a complete one to a make sure it’s delivered defects??
Would be nice to have metric as well as imperial...
Been looking for a review on the 24 volt 280 amp version. You should do a review on that. It looks similar to this one.
Can you share what are the use cases for this battery? I am not a knowledgeable person when it comes to the use cases
Is it possible to have a solar oanel array thats too small to charge this thing.. better yet whats the minimum amount of solar this thing can work on?😊
There is no minimum amount of solar to charge this battery. It's just a matter of time. The smaller the solar array, the longer it will take.
@LithiumSolar thanks alot
Thanks ...would be nice if you put Metric measurements on the screen
Why I have to convert all the metric measurements on YT.
Now I wonder if the TV I ordered was "controlled dropped" off the truck and that's how the screen got cracked right out of the box.
X2 LiTime 300ah “ about $1200.00. Would that be a better deal?
Sounds like it
It's a nice battery but it seems like the price per KWh is kinda high compared to their other batteries.
I appreciate the review though. Your vids were instrumental in my designing an entire solar/Lipo4 system for my RV. Thanks!
I wonder if it's because of the bigger BMS.
@@mpetty9947 Could be!
@LithiumSolar, during capacity test there's a tablet displaying values, a power supply and some hardware (I see a shunt and some other board). What are those parts and where do you buy them?
That is covered here th-cam.com/video/wKTXJidnfl4/w-d-xo.html
Is the battery quality that the manufacturer send you the same quality that is sold to the consumer??
Love the battery case(housing) I wish they sold it separately.
I would like to get the case like that I have the batteries already. Do they sell the case independently?
Oh yeah, I'm getting one or two of these!! 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾👏🏾
Cant imagine what that battery wouldve cost just 4 years ago
It's amazing how much prices have dropped in the last few years. When I started with the solar/battery hobby, LFP was unaffordable for the average DIYer and we were scrounging for recycled batteries to build with.
Easily a $5k battery just 2 years ago
Safe to run two in series...? 14kWh...
Yes, you can run two in series for a 24V configuration
That driver is a straight up man child. I’m surprised your battery wasn’t damaged. a battery that large I’d recommend picking up yourself. Delivery on a pallet will cost you a bit.
WT is similar to a 5k gas generator. Not too bad, i'm surprised it doesn't come with wheels and a handle. But i guess you can just use a handtruck to move it to its home. But this isn't really a shipping friendly weight.
I think the idea is to install it somewhere and not move it for 10+ years until it's reached the end of it's useful life.
Shouldn't be soldered too needs to be Ring terminal and bolts on the BMS negative cables
Hello good evening my brother who am i get this battery i need it please let me now
Wow, that good design battery box.
You can test 1000A for 1 second?
Dear.... Does it have a pre capacitor? Tq
Yes it does, at least on paper.
Would this battery be compatible with my stock 50 AMP WFCO WF-9855 converter and Xantrek 1200? I would like to purchase a battery to get me through and use when upgrading the system later.
great video
can i have the battery now you done the testing as want to use electric motor on my 24ft project boat in portsmouth in england ? will pay for shipping
Question how would 2 of theses Batteries work on my 18 wheeler being it's case is made of metal do they have a option with case made out of some type of None metallic material and also does this charge off of a good alternator plus shore power and handle extreme heat and cold.? Thank U
Up to 15,000 cycles on the Litime website, probably not 0-100% charge/discharge.
Definitely not 100% DoD and probably just a few amps - doubt it's anywhere near 1C or even 0.5C.
In some other batteries that claimed 15k cycles it was for 60% DoD, 6k for 80% and 4k cycles for 100%. I think 20 years (more than 7000 cycles) would be killer, since who will be around then? Probably most killed or in technocracy. and then if that is not the case, much newer and cheaper technology will come. For batteries to match solar panels life is crazy. Good of course
Could you scan the QR code and see what comes up?
Scanning it yields the same numbers that are engraved next to the code.
@@LithiumSolar interesting you would think you would take it to some sort of a webpage that’s odd
@@tomwilliam5118QR codes are used to store data. That can be a web address but it doesn't have to be.
It can data in a proprietary format that only has meaning to a particular software application
i need a new battery for my ford ranger, this should do fine.
Cool, did you ever setup the batrium with the eg4 6000xp? Just got started setting them up in lead acid mode for now. Wasn't sure if you had done it with your old battery setup.
No, but I do need to get that done before winter here. I need that low-temp control.
any video on how is LiTime BMS App ?
Thank you for this video.
For the asking price, I'd expect a lot more features, and they couldn't add enough features for me to contemplate a purchase at anywhere near their asking price as is.
There's plenty of space in the case for heaters and a simple W1209 thermostat or the likes. Bluetooth isn't a feature I prefer, but that doesn't take much space either. Is this called planned evolution, me thinks so.
How can you reassure me that this lithium battery won’t eventually explode or catch fire? Not trying to be difficult but have concerns.
That's not something I can tell you. I would have to refer you to the manufacturer for information on the safety tests they have conducted.
Going by that drop from the FedEx guy, I think we know where the damage came from.
12:17 In my country they use manual forklifts.
I wouldn't exactly call that a controlled drop. It should not have been dropped at all. That should not be tolerated by any shipper. Signature Solar sends their batteries out strapped to a pallet, but their shipping costs way more. I gladly paid it tho to ensure something like that never happened.
The battery cables to use that much amperage is going to be massive and expensive. There is a reason why larger solar systems are 48V based.
BMS is limiting to 100a I'll bet
@@paulmccarter908 Nope. 250A BMS and max continuous of 3200W.
And I thought my Litime 460 was big. Seeing this I should have waited, maybe
IMO the delivery driver caused the dent in your battery. That was poor service on the part of Fed Ex.
I assembled 7kWh battery myself for approx $800 (8*EVE 280k + JKBMS + case), buying locally in Ukraine. Had I ordered from China, it could have been $600. $1500 seems really overpriced, especially as it does not have any nice features like automatic self-heating.
Kind of odd for it to be 12.8V. I'd think something that big would be 51.2V?
51.2V doesn't make much sense if you need a 12V battery...
Can you run 2 in parallel?
Yes
Questionable grade of cells, no matter what the qr code says. This battery would need at least a 2amp balancer to keep cells in line. At this price point I'd bet the cells aren't grade a. To finish this review you would need to take milliamp readings from each cell which would entail further disassembly then at least 10 full cycles and check the balancing. I also wonder if those welds will hold when the cells expand. I'm not a fan of the bms's that use multiple wires. I use single terminal with 2awg cable with crimped terminals, no sodder.
There are new 560 prismatic cells out right now... no need for 4s2p
Oh, maybe they should put 8 of those in then and make a 1120Ah battery??
Thank you for the review. I can't find any UL certifications in the specs, do you know if this battery has those? Without a UL 1973 and UL9540, I just don't see how I can buy this battery and pass Inspections for a Solar System in the USA. Also could you explain the price per kWh?
0.22 cents a Kilo from what I Learned
It does not have an UL certifications. If that is required for your application, then I suggest you don't buy it.
@@LithiumSolar Thank you.
@@LithiumSolar Ok. I wish they would get those UL certs. They are clearly focusing their marketing materials on those markets, with Amzn headlines like "Perfect for Solar System, RV, Off Grid, Home Energy Storage"... Which is odd since they don't have the certifications? They simply don't meet NEC standards without those certifications where they do inspections for code compliance in most states.
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Needs casters on that case.
Why 12v tho? should be higher voltage to be able to be used stand alone on more modern systems
Why should it be higher? It's a 12V battery. If you don't need a 12V battery then don't buy one? I don't understand the question. It's a 12V battery for 12V power systems.
@@LithiumSolar its high a capacity battery. Most will not even consider to build such system with so low 12v system. You must add in your thinking the complete system not just the battery.
We're all trying to leave 12V for the much better 48V batteries, but this one is cool!
why are they better? im happy to use thicker wire. most of my appliances run on 12v.
@@pearlrival3124 If you already have the larger gauge wire and can make use of it, it makes zero difference, IMO. (most of my setups are 24V and I'm still adding 24V gear) Except for the BMS on the 12V which limits to 3000W output...
You can easily wire up 12V batteries to get whatever voltage you need. All batteries are made up of the same voltage cells.😊
@@pearlrival3124 48V easier to charge with solar.
Silicon wires ? copper or aluminium
Silicone-insulated, come on dude...
@@LithiumSolar i thought it may have been a new type of wire like fiber optic
The delivery guy definitely caused that dent on the cell. If you are not strong, careful or able to use common sense, you should be doing that kind of work. I’m a delivery driver and deal with heavier items than that, sometime by hand and a dolly. I’m always extra careful in handling the items and using common sense.
FedEx too cheap to provide a trolly? Or driver too lazy to use one?
To be fair, that is a lot for one driver to handle - that's why I think it should be going freight instead of ground w/ trolly. BUT FedEx also accepts up to 150lbs for ground service, so.... he should have the proper equipment for delivery regardless. Just my thoughts.
@@LithiumSolar it was not ok to just let gravity unload it.
Mick Australia 🇦🇺.? Question. Is this a one of...... they sent to you. Please buy or get from a store. To see if the same.
For me alot of thinking went into the build.
No complaints 8.00 time in. God bless mate
The battery was sponsored (ie sent to me for free). If you would like me to buy one, I can send you payment info for the cost.
You can buy battery’s 280ah and bake a bigger battery and bms and wires to. At $1600.00+
This is not a do-it-yourself battery. Your comparison is invalid.
Holy cow!! Great test. Thanks.
Pricing?
Pricing.
excellent but expensive :D question: if 4x12V = 48V AGM pack, what bms or balancer would u use? (did not use one for half a year but well X-D)
I'm not familiar with the properties of lead batteries. I didn't think you needed a BMS with lead. They do make balancers I know though, which will probably help extend the life of the battery - Victron has one.
@@LithiumSolar yes but u would need 3x of em to balance 48V