Addendum: Yes, I noticed that "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" is taking place while the sun is still out. I didn't make an issue of it for two reasons: 1.) The shadows in this scene and the one following indicate it is late in the day, approaching sunset. Since the lyrics also mention "evening" and "twilight" it's not unreasonable timing. (A more liminal dusk-like feel would have been more ideal, though.) 2.) The "Be Our Guest" thing pissed me off more, and I had to pick my battles.
In my experience, I remember a lot of much older adults when I was younger (teachers, mostly) refer to anything past the afternoon as night. Like 4- 5 PM. Even in the summer months, when the sun doesn't set until 8 or 9 depending, 4-5 PM have somehow been considered "night."
Well, regarding the ‘Be Our Guest’ thing, the Broadway version did have a moment similar, where the film version would have that moment of Zazu singing “It’s a Small World” to annoy Scar, and the Broadway version would mix it up and have him singing various different up-beat Disney songs (some examples being “Be Our Guest” and "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"), as it’s own way of getting meta. But I don’t think it felt nearly as labored, and it was a more appropriate moment.
love your channel i was wondering if you will do a review on la la land, rather it's know your score or more so a musical hell review, i know a lot of people who love musical movies hate that film
Sorry, no. Simba poking his father’s corpse looks like my cat poking me when he wants food and I’m trying to sleep and not even Zimmer’s score can make this moment more for me.
I agree completely. It was the expression on Simba's face that did it for me in that scene in the original. Which this version whiffed entirely, just like almost everything else.
@@CallieRoseMartinsyde it does just kinda look like a kitten poking its dead father, which is more viscerally uncomfortable and I can't get in the movie headspace enough to GET sad
I agree. The original scene where Simba finds his father is one of the most heartbreaking Disney death scenes period. Its not like Bambi where we find out his Mom dies and then the next seen is overly cheerful, horny birds trying to make you forget that scene. It LINGERS on the death of Mufasa and we feel the emotions. You can HEAR the heartbreak in Simba's voice, as well as in the expression as he realizes his father is dead....made WORSE by dear old Uncle Scar telling Simba its HIS fault. But something I've always been bothered by......Mufasa dies and Simba runs away and then Scar returns to Pride Rock and tells Queen Sarabi and the rest of the Pride that BOTH have died and he is now the king by default. In both versions, we see Queen Sarabi as a wise and noble queen.....so WHY didn't she demand SOME kind of proof that her husband and son were dead. It would have been all too easy for Scar to show her Mufasa's body.....but WE know (even though Scar does not) that Simba ISN'T dead. So why isn't Sarabi saying "where is my son?" Overall though, this version is, in my humble opinion one of the WORST Disney remakes.....and it insults the original which is, ironically, one of the crown jewels in Disney animation. There is a reason why it took 20 years for a movie to best it financially.
Right? While the traditionally animated movie exegerated animal expressions and mixed them in clever ways with how we expect animated expressions to be (based on human expressions, but ALSO often exegerated), they studied how lions move and emote... And the "live-action" movie does not even try to at least give the animals the emotive faces of actual animals. - Like, I get more of that by watching a nature docunnentry.
I hate to say this but the effect of the animals in The One and Only Ivan and Dolittle had more emotion and facial features than the 2019 Lion King movie.
For me, the animal movie tragedy here is that if the Lion King remake and The Call Of The Wild had swapped CGI styles, both would have been improved by it.
@ There was a (mostly) live action Call Of The Wild movie recently. Starred Harrison Ford. Unfortunately, the filmmakers decided to make all the animals CGI *and* give them extremely expressive, cartoony faces - which sent them straight into the uncanny valley when juxtaposed against real sets and real humans.
So basically. Timon And Pumba in this film are the animal equivilent of Doomers- i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/186/Screen_Shot_2018-09-19_at_1.22.44_PM.jpg (Just minus The Cigarettes, Baggy Eyes, And Winter Caps) And the whole song is basically getting a Doomer Music Video Make Over- th-cam.com/video/GNFAJLOotK4/w-d-xo.html (Just minus slowing it down and the cracks/scratches in the audio). Feel free to either agree or disagree with me on that statement.
The worst part about the animals not having expressions is they have clearly not interacted with real animals cause piss off your house cat or play with your dog they will show expressions
What's weirder is, considering Jon Favreau has played talking animals and directed The Jungle Book, the man clearly loves animals so I have no idea why he thought they didn't have expressions.
Which is ironic when you put into the fact that when making the original movie, they actually went to zoos and brought the animals to the studio to get the movements and facial expressions of the animals.
My dogs show more emotion when I just eat in front of them, even after they've just eaten. You know the look; the sad, big-eyed, "why don't you love me?" look.
That’s because the visionary style and stylization of Julie Taylor’s direction is perfect for translating an animated feature into a stage musical. Check out some of her other stagings of classic plays on TH-cam, they’re really stunning.
I kind of disagree that Scar's flamboyance has aged poorly. I never saw him as a gay villain, personally, I always saw his flamboyance more as him being a snobby rich guy who looks down on everyone else as brutish and simple, which fits well with his idea of his own superiority and intellect.
If we can put aside if this is canon, the kiddie show "The Lion Guard" addresses this. Scar apparently fathered three children with a Lioness who Simba later banished to the hyena lands.
@@JonathanMCook Um, those three children you mention originated in the Lion King II: Simba's Pride, and it's specifically stated there that Scar did not father Kovu at least, just chose him to become his heir because otherwise Kovu and Kiara would be first cousins once removed.
@@yoboibeerus1387 Well yeah, that's a common way to show that the villain is a bad guy, compare them to Nazis. Because despite the rise of the so-called "alt-right" and other such scumbags, most people know Nazi = Bad Hence for example why the soldiers in Star Wars were called Stormtroopers and the Sith used the colors of Nazi Germany.
@ fair but she kinda of did or could've talked about some of those and honestly I would want it to be a musical hell vid because they're usually a lot funnier
This movie is just a glorified exercise to show off their shiny hyperrealistic CGI technology. We all would've been better off if they'd just reanimated the opening sequence/a few key scenes with the original audio, and just uploaded it to youtube with the title "The Lion King With Real Animals"
I pointed out to my friend that this tech could be used really well for stuff like Walking With Dinosaurs or Watership Down...but instead we get this shit
I'm pretty sure Disney is more interested in money than showing off technology. And say what you will, but the live-action Disney remakes have been consistently profitable.
So why not just an adaptation of the stage musical? Frame it as an African storyteller telling the story or something and the actors bring it to life? You could even have the all star cast.
Disney's also already tried it with "The Festival Of The Lion King " In Hong King Disneyland, they retell the story with Rafi Ki and two monkeys [as comedic translators as the show itself is in English] . It always manages to be good so it's not like they don't know that framing a retelling as a local legend being told doesn't do well, they also had the genie telling the story in Aladdin and Usnavi telling the story of Washington heights to kids.
@@mikeykitty1235 I don't think that's a strong argument. It's a story based on the old idea of good and worthy monarchies -- it's just not realistic, but it's not fascistic.
@@mikeykitty1235 I think that's a viable interpretation but obviously not the intention that Disney meant to go with. They weren't thinking that deeply about how you'd relate a fairly black and white story to real life like that.
Aside from the butcher of Be Prepared, Scar was a boring ass villian in the remake. Jeremy Irons hammed it up. He was snarky, and clearly dangerously coniving. He looked like someone that could convince people to follow him. That made him more intimidating. Didn't matter if he was a bit flamboyant, he was right up there with Gaston when showing just how low he could stoop to."
The weirdest thing about this movie is that it drags and adds enough scenes to make it half an hour longer, but all the genuinely meaningful scenes feel rushed here. When Nala found Simba in the original they actually took time with that moment. Nala didn't recognise him at first, but then she realised and it became a joyous reunion, and we really get to take this feeling in before Nala even mentions Simba being king. In this one she immediately knows it's him (especially frustrating since unlike the original there's nothing visually distinct about either of them) and she pretty much immediately tells him to go and be king. Then Can You Feel The Love Tonight and the "argument" come and go just as quickly. And if they had enough time to give half-baked subplots to Nala and Sarabi, as well as prolonged sequences revolving around a mouse and an actual piece of excrement, why didn't they have room for Rafiki's "the past can hurt" line which literally sums up the entire message of the story?! The writer/director/editor really needed to have their priorities in order here!
That’s the main problem for me with this movie. The pacing. Why make it longer and not even add anything meaningful? People complain about the new Aladdin (which I personally enjoyed), but at least it added new things instead of just dragging everything out for as long as possible. I do wish that the acting in this movie was been better, and that they hadn’t ruined Be Prepared. But my main issue is definitely how they made the movie so long and boring.
Thank you for mentioning the “past can hurt”sequence. That deserved a sin all its own. I know Diva mentioned the lack of character from Rafiki, but this is more about the lack of message from the movie.
One extremely common idea I hear for the remake is that they went out of their way to add an out of place Nala song (essentially just to provide Oscar Bait singing from Beyonce), when a lot of viewers thought they should have incorporated "He Lives in You" for the Rafiki sequence as they did in the Broadway musical. They clearly understand the song's popularity and significance considering they went out of their way to record a version for the credits, so I find it bizarre that it appears nowhere in the film despite the increased running time.
I work with kids and when this movie came out, I overheard a conversation between kindergardeners that went. kid 1: I saw the Lion King kid 2: was it good? kid 1: eh, it was the same as the old one. You ain't fooling anyone, Disney.
Honestly, this film was a dull and uncreative ride to go through. I have an unburning hatred for the Live Action Beauty and the Beast, but they at least made some changes to the film (even if the changes weren't all good.). This is shot-by-shot remake, and not a good one. As Cellspex told me long ago in her Live Action Beauty and the Beauty review, "If we wanted to watch the original movie, we can watch the original movie".
The minor thing that really bugged me is this 6:46. In the 1994 version, Simba is more innocent and even if he brags a little bit about how he's about to rule the kingdom it's still a minor thing. In the 2019 remake he's literally rubbing it on Scar's face. Seeing that in theatres really made me empathize so much with Scar and screaming in my head "Just push him off the cliff for God's sake!"
Sorry.. I did have to laugh at the "Every time that I farted... you're not gone stop me?" line and the interruption of the "Lion Sleeps Tonight" by having Nala come out of nowhere to get them. xD Haven't seen this version of the movie (probably never will) but those instances made me laugh. Also had to laugh at that cirnge-worthy "Nooooooo!" young Simba gave. xD Freaking HILARIOUS. I know it's supposed to be a dramatic moment but having a squeaky-voiced kid yell that (versus what we hear in the original) does not do that moment any favors!!!
The thing that actually surprised me about this movie and Aladdin kinda expected you to already be fans of the original, leading to oddly meta references about the musical numbers. Aladdin's being when the Genie sings his big musical number, he starts off with a weak, emotionless version and then says "I know what you all want to see" or something to that extent before belting out his version. I did prefer the Timon and Pumbaa line over that, though.
I feel what may have saved that joke was if Seth Rogen had any kind of singing chops so could linger at least a little bit on the starting note as if he wanted to be stopped. The comedic timing for me was just super off
I get the feeling that Seth and Billy were vamping off each other in the recording booths and that line just naturally came out of an improv session that they decided to leave in. I loved that joke, but for a strange reason. If there's one thing that oddly dates the original, and hear me out, it's the "Pumbaa, not in front of the kids" censorship of the word fart. It doesn't work in a post-Shrek world where fart jokes were an all too common occurrence in kid's movies, to the point they elicit anger in anyone over the age of 3. Now, I LOVE the original line, and I especially love the "Not in front of Regis and Kathy Lee" variant Nathan and Ernie performed live on that show. It's just incredibly quaint now. There was, of course, more effort in the Aladdin "Friend like Me" lead up joke, as that one was scripted, had to be acted through, and then CGI Abu Monkey Animated. Plus, it did give us a long build up of anticipation. So it works better, but the jokes are essentially the same. Subversion of expectation.
One thing I hate about this movie that wasn’t mentioned was how much they _botched_ Nala. In the original, she started off as a spunky, adventurous cub (like Simba) and in this one she’s a stick in the mud. And in the original as an adult, Nala was _ecstatic_ upon reuniting with Simba because she thought he was dead and that part of her life was gone forever and it’s like she’s been given a second chance. In this one she barely says two words to him before telling him The Pridelands are suffering.
@@Joshua_Quinzel_Isley I'll give some of the remakes this, they had some good things in them: Elle Fanning's performance as Aurora, Neel Seth's performance as Mowgli, Eva Green as Colette in Dumbo.
I think it helped that he just had to take pages of a score he already wrote, and slightly modify them. Not the first time he's done that, one could argue, considering the "It's a Pirate" piece noticeably lifts passages from "The Battle" from Gladiator.
In the months before the release of the movie, Jeremy Irons said he was interested in reprising his role as Scar, but Disney never contacted him....let that further the rage!
There's something about that sequence that I swear they never seem to get quite right on even a typical level in adaptions. One thing I always found so sinister was how Scar was so quiet delivering the moment, almost implicitly bragging that he's won to Mufasa before sending him to his death. In both this and the Broadway show, they have Scar shout the line and do a very exaggerated motion. I get the idea of trying to highlight the sense of triumph, but it goes against the scheming nature of the plan to me, and I feel unintentionally risks giving Simba something to question if he were to see Mufasa fall from the top of the cliff rather than only as he's falling, for example. It comes across as "over-acted" in a sense.
I *laugh* every time I see that shot of live-action Simba's big noooooooooo. And it's even funnier in slo-mo. It's as forced and cheesy as whenever Star Wars does it - which is bad in a movie that isn't trying to be campy.
@@papershadow Exaggerating it for the Broadway version makes more sense. You gotta make it so people in the back row can see it. In film you can be a lot more subtle about it, & it's what made it so effective in the original.
I understand why it was done, just that knowing what motivated the change is different from the change serving the moment better as part of the narrative. I would still cite it as a weaker version, just one by adaptational necessity for Broadway as opposed to unnecessary and weaker decisions for the CGI Film.
“The new version of ‘The Lion King’ was a huge disappointment to me, because I believe they messed the music up. Music was so much a part of the original and the music in the current film didn’t have the same impact. The magic and joy were lost.” -Sir Elton John, the composer of the original animated film's music who returned to work on the remake
No, they learned their lesson. _Psycho (1998)_ made back just over half its budget, for a $23 million loss; _Lion King (2019)_ made six times its budget, for a $1.4 _billion_ profit. That's the goal under capitalism. Not to make something profound, memorable, or even good, but to make money.
Also, when Mufasa let out the furious “SIMBA!!” in the original, I was almost wetting my pants. Everyone sounds kinda bored in the remake, so I was just thinking, “Oh...Mufasa’s kinda upset.”
Serasia Not to mention he barely even looks Simba in the face during their heart-to-heart here. It really takes away the impact, in addition to the lack of facial expressions.
And when animated Mufasa goes on with “Simba I am very disappointed in you...” speech oh boi was that great. From deadly serious to worried to affectionate when they come to an understanding that whole sequence is great 😄
Fun fact : Jeremy Irons didn’t sing all of Be Prepared. Apparently he couldn’t hit the high notes nearer the end of the song, so part of it was sang by Jim Cummings
When will Disney notice animation is it’s strongest tool? It can create memorable designs, movement and color palettes. Live action is of course closer to what we see every day and is not as powerful.
Wait. Jon Favereau directed this? The guy who's helming the successful and actually good "The Mandalorian"? Guess we've learned where his strengths lie, and it's not in remakes of disney classics (I'm sure a big issue is executives' expectations/demands/whatever, but still).
Wait, I thought this was by request. That's how I'd heard it at least. Disney: Great job Jon. The Jungle Book is a success, and we're looking to do more of the re- Jon Favereau: I wanna do The Lion King!
I've mentioned that to her before myself actually! I'd love for her to tackle Princess & the Pauper especially, but Island Princess & Diamond Castle would be great picks too.
It's like many of the real-live actors on-screen. Now, I'm not saying the live actors are bad at all. What I mean is that they mostly don't give any facial expressions and fluid body movements like I do with myself and how they should. Doing those said things can make their acting more superb and lively like an animated cartoon. I mean, come on fellas you're losing your heads.
I'm finding I have the same issue with a lot of these Disney Live-Action/Photorealistic Remakes: They just look so bland to me. Disney, for all their other faults, know how to animate, and especially the 90s movies had some of the most beautifully lush and vibrant color palettes around (I don't argue that Mulan, Pocahontas, Hercules and even Lion King have problems in storytelling, but their animation is beautiful.) Most of the remakes just seem to be flat shadows or a lot of beige dust and sand.
I really appreciate the intelligent way she breaks down the problems with the remake without resorting to massive hyperbole though I do agree with the punishment of having the Disney execs watch Gus Van Sant's Psycho. I was wondering if she'd reference it. Good job, Diva!
@@jeremyusreevu237 it’s okay. The problem with it is it slows down the pacing. They took a scene in the original that lasted about thirty seconds to a minute and extended it to three to four pun-riddled minutes that doesn’t add to the story.
Walt Disney Animation Studios film remakes: Us... Josie and the Pussycats: Allow me to introduce myself. Thundercats Roar: I called my haters “poop mouth with poop opinions” so don’t forget about me when it comes to remakes of cartoons that are ALSO cartoons! Sonic Genesis: And now... video games will be brought into this because I’m perhaps the worst video game remake since Pac-Man World 1 & 2 for the GBA (like how their original versions are the most underrated video games out there, especially PMW2)!
I saw the Lion King musical just literally days before covid shut down the world, and they cut out the Morning Report song, which I was kinda glad they did.
I’ve always wondered if the Nazi imagery in “Be Prepared” meant anything besides “Scar is evil” Although I’ve heard that darker-colored lions in real life have higher testosterone, so...maybe Scar considered himself genetically superior to Mufasa?
In the one of the original concepts of Lion King there was going to be a legitmate lion concentration camp run by Scar. Nala was also going to have a brother who would have gotten killed by Scar so he could be the only male. This was all scrapped for being far too dark.
@@Theravingranter I'm assuming Disney hoped we wouldn't notice the incest(with only Mufasa and Scar as the only adult males(err, before the end I mean), theres only one place Nala could come from.... Yeah. Think about it.
@@phousefilms No there is NO incest in Lion King what so ever. In Lion King 2 the creators went out of their way to make sure the couple weren't cousins and that was for a direct to video sequel. The creators have said they didn't think showing Nalas father was imperative because it did nothing for the story and just would have been another person for Scar to have to kill to assert dominance. Her father was most likely a rogue lion or died. It's very possible Serafina, Nala'a mother, came to the pride rock already pregnant and was Sarabis best friend which is why Nala was deemed good enough for Simba because her mother was on good terms with the queen. It is a common joke around the Lion King creators that the man who created Nalas character is her father. They even drew him as a lion lol
For me, "Be Prepared" is basically a microcosm of how all reactionary fascist regimes exploit the underclass - the Nazi imagery just makes the parallel clear. And that's why I find it really tragic that they chopped it. The whole point of the song is at the end, when Scar is singing about how awesome he is, while the Hyenas are chanting "We'll have food! Lots of food! There'll be meat! Endless meat!" That's basically most popular uprisings in a nutshell. I have to wonder if Disney cut that specifically to de-politicize the movie, or maybe realized belatedly that they'd gone too far in negatively coding the hyenas as POCs. (HOCs?) Can't go openly saying the movie is about a race war, can we?
That moment when you realize that they used multi-million dollar animation in order to animate a literal ball of sh*t. No seriously. Think about that for a moment: Someone actually had to sit down and spend countless hours using multi-million dollar equipment to animate a BALL OF SH*T!
To be fair the original implied zebras were about to poop on Zazu and TLK 1 1/2 had a lengthy montage of Timon taking Simba to use the bathroom so it’s not like this franchise was ever above showing or talking about poo poo, even if it was never quite this blatant about it.
@@MrAspiringactor Toilet humor is one thing. But the point I'm trying to make is that someone literally had to sit on a computer for countless hours animating excrement just so Disney could pad out the runtime.
They could have filmed a real dung beetle, but somehow that would cost more. Also, they did it because it was part of the... tuft of fur's... journey, which is gross and unnecessary. If they must have a dung beetle, they could have put it in the background to add more realism to the environment.
As they say it's a shot for shot remake of The Lion King. THIS is not an exact shot for shot remake of an animated classic. And the wooden acting, lifeless expressions and more just ruins everything. Try reviewing the 2019 remake of Aladdin BTW Diva.
You know what would've made this better if, in the end, Simba decides to make peace with the Hyenas despite everything because he could see that they were just desperate for survival like every other creature in the Circle of Life and allows them to live in peace in the Pride Lands after they denounced Scar which would not only make this different from the original but also help show Simba remembers his father's advice that the makings of a true king is to show what he can give not what he can take.
The original Lion King aged just fine. I saw none of the things in the movie you mentioned and still don't as an adult. In the remake, James Earl Jones sounded tired af and they should have just used the old recordings of his lines instead. But every scene you mentioned, all I could of was how it originally looked.
Agreed 100%. I saw it as an evil brother who wanted power and killed the king, as well as bringing in a competitive species. Literally saw nothing racist or homophobic or anything.
The worst part is Favreau's 'naturalism' isn't naturalism at all. Lions have facial expressions, body language, etc. They're not always analogous to human expressions, but their expressions exist. They aren't lifeless cardboard cutouts from beginning to end.
OMFG..when you laughed at Mufasa's death i felt vindicated.. I was in the theater with my BF at the time..and I was bitching and complaining the entire time..until thay death scene..and I laughed... And during the flashback...I laughed louder.
Yeah I lost faith in this project as soon as they announced James Earl Jones as Mufasa. I try to avoid the "remakes are lazy" argument (low-hanging fruit, and I feel there are better critiques/ arguments to make), but yeah... I get it, it's James Earl Jones, but not even bothering to re-cast the part just reeked of laziness
This movie is so dull that all of the (valid) complaints about it have, in the span of one year, become circularly tired as the film itself is. Congratulations, Lion King. *slow claps* Also, La La Land is...fine. It's...alright. I didn't hate it, and Emma Stone's adorable.
Like, don't you think they made quite far more than enough money with not just these remakes but other smash-hit films like Avengers:Endgame and so on?
I love James Earl Jones’s performance in this. Why? Because it’s such a great way of sticking it to the anti-recasting crowd who thinks iconic characters have to be monopolized by a single actor and no other actor could possibly do that character justice. James Earl Jones was too old to play Mufasa, he’s a mortal being like all of us, he sucked in this precisely because he’s so OLD, deal with it, fanboys XD
The scene when Timon and Pumba first appear on the horizon and the opening to the Live Action Mulan are making me start think that Disney really likes that Monty Python scene.
When i first watched the movie, i had this weird disorientation of lack of "emotion". Having lived around cats my entire life, watching their bland, unemotive faces, bodies, ears, and tails, it felt like watching someone with a deadpan face saying emotional things.
She's not the worst singer whose tried their hand at voice acting. Rihanna's performance in Home makes her performance in this look Oscar Worthy by comparison.
@@gracekim25 Another example would be Lady Gaga in The Simpsons. As a live action actress, Germatta/Gaga has proven to be better than Beyonce at acting in just one movie. But say what you will about Beyonce, and she was miscast and mostly flat, there were at least times (like the argument scene or the Scar takes over the pridelands scene) where she tried to emote a little bit. If you watched Lady Gaga's Simpsons episode, though, she was flat and wooden throughout that whole thing, no matter what was happening. And she was literally voicing herself!
Beyoncé: But just you wait... until I play Tendai Stewart in The Goldinum! Then I’ll stun the world with how much lessons I took in order to become a great actor with several shots of me being fully naked with my thick muscly thighs, vajayjay and even bigger ass than ever before being kept in the picture! Just like those other chicks in teen sitcoms like iCarly and KC Undercover (Zendaya Coleman and Miranda Cosgrove)! 😃
Exactly what I’m saying! Forest Whitaker’s cjaracter is such a Rafiki analog that I remember when a photo of T’Challa in the spirit realm was released prior to the film’s release, I joked with one of my friends that “this must be the scene when Forest Whitaker shows up and sings ‘He Lives In You’”
The only thing i respect about this movie is that they accurately protrayed a Hyena matriarchy, which is disappointing that THAT is the only thing I liked about the movie
I thought with the focus on realism, simba wouldn't come back to live with his family and marry his half-sib. Correct me if i'm wrong, but simba should basically be related to everyone in the pride
literally the one thing i remember about this movie is the montage of simba's fur (instead of going on the wind directly to rafiki like in the animated film) ending up in a piece of giraffe shit. i'm pretty sure it was the last movie i saw in theaters before the pandemic hit, and i was alternately hysterically laughing and shielding my eyes from the screen because i couldn't believe what i was seeing. in hindsight, it's actually a pretty apt metaphor for this movie.
Just wanna get this off my chest: am I the only one that has NEVER seen Scar as a gay stereotype? Like, ever? I was so confused when she brought it up like it was obvious. Maybe that's just me?
I just see it as a guy being extra. Claiming he's "queer-coded" because he acts in an over-the-top manner, kinda reinforces the stereotype that all gay people are over-the-top and extra.
I saw this with one of my friends in theaters because we were morbidly curious about how much it sucked. People were clapping at the end when they played circle of life again and it cut to the credits and we were both like no. God, revisiting this movie pisses me off so much.
My parents recently admitted that they never really cared about the original movie for whatever reason and liked the other early Renaissance movies better. They said that they were impressed to “hear Mr. Bean talk normally” and that was about it. But I bet that if I showed them this movie they would appreciate the original more.
Addendum: Yes, I noticed that "Can You Feel the Love Tonight" is taking place while the sun is still out. I didn't make an issue of it for two reasons:
1.) The shadows in this scene and the one following indicate it is late in the day, approaching sunset. Since the lyrics also mention "evening" and "twilight" it's not unreasonable timing. (A more liminal dusk-like feel would have been more ideal, though.)
2.) The "Be Our Guest" thing pissed me off more, and I had to pick my battles.
Fair
In my experience, I remember a lot of much older adults when I was younger (teachers, mostly) refer to anything past the afternoon as night. Like 4- 5 PM. Even in the summer months, when the sun doesn't set until 8 or 9 depending, 4-5 PM have somehow been considered "night."
Well, regarding the ‘Be Our Guest’ thing, the Broadway version did have a moment similar, where the film version would have that moment of Zazu singing “It’s a Small World” to annoy Scar, and the Broadway version would mix it up and have him singing various different up-beat Disney songs (some examples being “Be Our Guest” and "Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"), as it’s own way of getting meta. But I don’t think it felt nearly as labored, and it was a more appropriate moment.
love your channel i was wondering if you will do a review on la la land, rather it's know your score or more so a musical hell review, i know a lot of people who love musical movies hate that film
Childhood ruined forever.
Mufasa: *calmly falls to his doom*
Followed by Simba's high-pitched "NYOOOOHHH."
@@DJtheBlack-RibbonedRose and hissing like he no like banana
Nelson Muntz: Ha ha
It's like the natural mirrored opposite of "DID YOU PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIYAH?!"
Hahahahaha
Sorry, no. Simba poking his father’s corpse looks like my cat poking me when he wants food and I’m trying to sleep and not even Zimmer’s score can make this moment more for me.
EXACTLY! i was still laughing from the previous scene for a second i wondered if Diva was being sarcastic
Maybe she is listening to the music and imagining it set to the animated film?
I agree completely. It was the expression on Simba's face that did it for me in that scene in the original. Which this version whiffed entirely, just like almost everything else.
@@CallieRoseMartinsyde it does just kinda look like a kitten poking its dead father, which is more viscerally uncomfortable and I can't get in the movie headspace enough to GET sad
I agree. The original scene where Simba finds his father is one of the most heartbreaking Disney death scenes period. Its not like Bambi where we find out his Mom dies and then the next seen is overly cheerful, horny birds trying to make you forget that scene. It LINGERS on the death of Mufasa and we feel the emotions. You can HEAR the heartbreak in Simba's voice, as well as in the expression as he realizes his father is dead....made WORSE by dear old Uncle Scar telling Simba its HIS fault. But something I've always been bothered by......Mufasa dies and Simba runs away and then Scar returns to Pride Rock and tells Queen Sarabi and the rest of the Pride that BOTH have died and he is now the king by default. In both versions, we see Queen Sarabi as a wise and noble queen.....so WHY didn't she demand SOME kind of proof that her husband and son were dead. It would have been all too easy for Scar to show her Mufasa's body.....but WE know (even though Scar does not) that Simba ISN'T dead. So why isn't Sarabi saying "where is my son?" Overall though, this version is, in my humble opinion one of the WORST Disney remakes.....and it insults the original which is, ironically, one of the crown jewels in Disney animation. There is a reason why it took 20 years for a movie to best it financially.
The weirdest part about this is that real life animals are more animated with emotions and facial features than the cgi models in this movie
Right? While the traditionally animated movie exegerated animal expressions and mixed them in clever ways with how we expect animated expressions to be (based on human expressions, but ALSO often exegerated), they studied how lions move and emote... And the "live-action" movie does not even try to at least give the animals the emotive faces of actual animals. - Like, I get more of that by watching a nature docunnentry.
@ which is weird because he didn't have these problems in the jungle book
I hate to say this but the effect of the animals in The One and Only Ivan and Dolittle had more emotion and facial features than the 2019 Lion King movie.
For me, the animal movie tragedy here is that if the Lion King remake and The Call Of The Wild had swapped CGI styles, both would have been improved by it.
@ There was a (mostly) live action Call Of The Wild movie recently. Starred Harrison Ford. Unfortunately, the filmmakers decided to make all the animals CGI *and* give them extremely expressive, cartoony faces - which sent them straight into the uncanny valley when juxtaposed against real sets and real humans.
Gotta admire how Hakuna Matata went from "Don't worry, be happy" to "Life has no meaning, so why even do anything? Just consume bro"
So basically. Timon And Pumba in this film are the animal equivilent of Doomers- i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/186/Screen_Shot_2018-09-19_at_1.22.44_PM.jpg (Just minus The Cigarettes, Baggy Eyes, And Winter Caps)
And the whole song is basically getting a Doomer Music Video Make Over- th-cam.com/video/GNFAJLOotK4/w-d-xo.html (Just minus slowing it down and the cracks/scratches in the audio).
Feel free to either agree or disagree with me on that statement.
The worst part about the animals not having expressions is they have clearly not interacted with real animals cause piss off your house cat or play with your dog they will show expressions
What's weirder is, considering Jon Favreau has played talking animals and directed The Jungle Book, the man clearly loves animals so I have no idea why he thought they didn't have expressions.
Which is ironic when you put into the fact that when making the original movie, they actually went to zoos and brought the animals to the studio to get the movements and facial expressions of the animals.
@@asalways1504 The original Lion King or Jungle Book?
My dogs show more emotion when I just eat in front of them, even after they've just eaten. You know the look; the sad, big-eyed, "why don't you love me?" look.
@@roselaughs8455 Lion king
The Broadway version did it much better than the remake.
Oh boy ikr
Yes! The Broadway show is so good!
@@isabellp.5730 Heather Headley was so great as Nala in the Original Broadway recording.
That’s because the visionary style and stylization of Julie Taylor’s direction is perfect for translating an animated feature into a stage musical. Check out some of her other stagings of classic plays on TH-cam, they’re really stunning.
Omg leagues above and beyond!!!
I kind of disagree that Scar's flamboyance has aged poorly. I never saw him as a gay villain, personally, I always saw his flamboyance more as him being a snobby rich guy who looks down on everyone else as brutish and simple, which fits well with his idea of his own superiority and intellect.
It’s not just the flamboyance, but also the fact that Scar doesn’t have a harem of lionesses.
@@beethovensfidelio welp i bet no one wanted to be his partner anyway
@@beethovensfidelio Well in the orginal version he tried to assault Nala.
If we can put aside if this is canon, the kiddie show "The Lion Guard" addresses this. Scar apparently fathered three children with a Lioness who Simba later banished to the hyena lands.
@@JonathanMCook Um, those three children you mention originated in the Lion King II: Simba's Pride, and it's specifically stated there that Scar did not father Kovu at least, just chose him to become his heir because otherwise Kovu and Kiara would be first cousins once removed.
This movie produced some of the ugliest Funko Pops I’ve ever seen. Which is saying a lot
They are quite odd-looking. I don’t think even the Funko Pop collectors wanted them. They’re always on clearance in every store that I see them in.
I had to look these up and WOW they are hideous. Simba looks like a demon with those eyes!
i had to look it up and they are really creepy looking💀😭
_Google Image Search_
"Huh? No, most of these look fine, as far as Funko Pops go. ...wait."
_adds 2019 to the search box_
"Oh. Yikes."
I still think the remake Mrs. Potts one is the worst.
Scar didn't even get to sing "Be Prepared", one of the BEST villain songs in Disney history! 😭
He just jumped on rocks and that was it. We never got the song we were waiting for
Its because he was Nazi.
@@yoboibeerus1387 Oh no, we can't
have a villain acting like a villain! Stuff and nonsense!
I was so angry and devastated!!! I was hoping for new material as well, like a Zira cameo!!!
@@yoboibeerus1387
Well yeah, that's a common way to show that the villain is a bad guy, compare them to Nazis. Because despite the rise of the so-called "alt-right" and other such scumbags, most people know Nazi = Bad
Hence for example why the soldiers in Star Wars were called Stormtroopers and the Sith used the colors of Nazi Germany.
Sees lion king: wait
Sees 2019: wait
Sees musical hell: yes
Sees review: START THE HALLELUJAH MUSIC
Yes, if it had been the Classic 1994 version, than I may have had some bones to pick with Diva! 😉
@@trinaqI do agree but I meant as in hoping it wasn't a know the score vid
@ fair but she kinda of did or could've talked about some of those and honestly I would want it to be a musical hell vid because they're usually a lot funnier
@ videos take time
@@gracekim25 but she could've dive deeper Into it! Why didn't this happened?
This movie is just a glorified exercise to show off their shiny hyperrealistic CGI technology. We all would've been better off if they'd just reanimated the opening sequence/a few key scenes with the original audio, and just uploaded it to youtube with the title "The Lion King With Real Animals"
TH-cam videos don't make $1.6 billion in worldwide ticket sales. (*sigh*)
I pointed out to my friend that this tech could be used really well for stuff like Walking With Dinosaurs or Watership Down...but instead we get this shit
I'm pretty sure Disney is more interested in money than showing off technology. And say what you will, but the live-action Disney remakes have been consistently profitable.
@Simple Weirdo 2020 is the exception to just about everything. Like the Mongols, except less epic and more terrifying.
Jon Faverou "Our characters are better than ever, now that we've perfected digital eyelash rendering."
So why not just an adaptation of the stage musical? Frame it as an African storyteller telling the story or something and the actors bring it to life? You could even have the all star cast.
That would've been amazing
I’d love that
Disney's also already tried it with "The Festival Of The Lion King " In Hong King Disneyland, they retell the story with Rafi Ki and two monkeys [as comedic translators as the show itself is in English] . It always manages to be good so it's not like they don't know that framing a retelling as a local legend being told doesn't do well, they also had the genie telling the story in Aladdin and Usnavi telling the story of Washington heights to kids.
I will defend the original Lion King until the day I die but this "remake" is something that I can't defend.
How about people saying the original Lion King supports fascism?
@@mikeykitty1235 It doesn't considering Scar is defeated.
@@mikeykitty1235 I don't think that's a strong argument. It's a story based on the old idea of good and worthy monarchies -- it's just not realistic, but it's not fascistic.
@@mastermarkus5307 A friend of mine states the hyenas in Lion King represent the lower class.
@@mikeykitty1235
I think that's a viable interpretation but obviously not the intention that Disney meant to go with. They weren't thinking that deeply about how you'd relate a fairly black and white story to real life like that.
Aside from the butcher of Be Prepared, Scar was a boring ass villian in the remake. Jeremy Irons hammed it up. He was snarky, and clearly dangerously coniving. He looked like someone that could convince people to follow him. That made him more intimidating. Didn't matter if he was a bit flamboyant, he was right up there with Gaston when showing just how low he could stoop to."
Don't forget about Jeremy Irons character from Dungeons & Dragons.
@@jeremyusreevu237 I could USE eveRY OUNCE of your RAaaAAAAAAGEEEE!!!!!
God I love that movie. So bad, but so good.
@@jasonblalock4429 "LET THEIR BLOOOOD RAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIINNNNN FROOOOMMM THE SKYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
@@jeremyusreevu237 _Yatatatatata~_
@@Dreigonix "NOT SO TALENTED, EH MR RIDLEY?!!!"
The weirdest thing about this movie is that it drags and adds enough scenes to make it half an hour longer, but all the genuinely meaningful scenes feel rushed here.
When Nala found Simba in the original they actually took time with that moment. Nala didn't recognise him at first, but then she realised and it became a joyous reunion, and we really get to take this feeling in before Nala even mentions Simba being king. In this one she immediately knows it's him (especially frustrating since unlike the original there's nothing visually distinct about either of them) and she pretty much immediately tells him to go and be king. Then Can You Feel The Love Tonight and the "argument" come and go just as quickly.
And if they had enough time to give half-baked subplots to Nala and Sarabi, as well as prolonged sequences revolving around a mouse and an actual piece of excrement, why didn't they have room for Rafiki's "the past can hurt" line which literally sums up the entire message of the story?! The writer/director/editor really needed to have their priorities in order here!
couldn't have said it better
That’s the main problem for me with this movie. The pacing.
Why make it longer and not even add anything meaningful?
People complain about the new Aladdin (which I personally enjoyed), but at least it added new things instead of just dragging everything out for as long as possible.
I do wish that the acting in this movie was been better, and that they hadn’t ruined Be Prepared. But my main issue is definitely how they made the movie so long and boring.
"But...but my hair in the dung ball..."
Thank you for mentioning the “past can hurt”sequence. That deserved a sin all its own. I know Diva mentioned the lack of character from Rafiki, but this is more about the lack of message from the movie.
One extremely common idea I hear for the remake is that they went out of their way to add an out of place Nala song (essentially just to provide Oscar Bait singing from Beyonce), when a lot of viewers thought they should have incorporated "He Lives in You" for the Rafiki sequence as they did in the Broadway musical. They clearly understand the song's popularity and significance considering they went out of their way to record a version for the credits, so I find it bizarre that it appears nowhere in the film despite the increased running time.
I work with kids and when this movie came out, I overheard a conversation between kindergardeners that went.
kid 1: I saw the Lion King
kid 2: was it good?
kid 1: eh, it was the same as the old one.
You ain't fooling anyone, Disney.
Children are Smart. I hope the world remembers this
Honestly, this film was a dull and uncreative ride to go through. I have an unburning hatred for the Live Action Beauty and the Beast, but they at least made some changes to the film (even if the changes weren't all good.). This is shot-by-shot remake, and not a good one. As Cellspex told me long ago in her Live Action Beauty and the Beauty review, "If we wanted to watch the original movie, we can watch the original movie".
Doesn't help that they had a beautiful stage show that could have been brought to life, like you know a REAL live action movie.
The minor thing that really bugged me is this 6:46. In the 1994 version, Simba is more innocent and even if he brags a little bit about how he's about to rule the kingdom it's still a minor thing. In the 2019 remake he's literally rubbing it on Scar's face. Seeing that in theatres really made me empathize so much with Scar and screaming in my head "Just push him off the cliff for God's sake!"
Sorry.. I did have to laugh at the "Every time that I farted... you're not gone stop me?" line and the interruption of the "Lion Sleeps Tonight" by having Nala come out of nowhere to get them. xD Haven't seen this version of the movie (probably never will) but those instances made me laugh.
Also had to laugh at that cirnge-worthy "Nooooooo!" young Simba gave. xD Freaking HILARIOUS. I know it's supposed to be a dramatic moment but having a squeaky-voiced kid yell that (versus what we hear in the original) does not do that moment any favors!!!
The thing that actually surprised me about this movie and Aladdin kinda expected you to already be fans of the original, leading to oddly meta references about the musical numbers. Aladdin's being when the Genie sings his big musical number, he starts off with a weak, emotionless version and then says "I know what you all want to see" or something to that extent before belting out his version. I did prefer the Timon and Pumbaa line over that, though.
I feel what may have saved that joke was if Seth Rogen had any kind of singing chops so could linger at least a little bit on the starting note as if he wanted to be stopped. The comedic timing for me was just super off
I get the feeling that Seth and Billy were vamping off each other in the recording booths and that line just naturally came out of an improv session that they decided to leave in. I loved that joke, but for a strange reason. If there's one thing that oddly dates the original, and hear me out, it's the "Pumbaa, not in front of the kids" censorship of the word fart. It doesn't work in a post-Shrek world where fart jokes were an all too common occurrence in kid's movies, to the point they elicit anger in anyone over the age of 3. Now, I LOVE the original line, and I especially love the "Not in front of Regis and Kathy Lee" variant Nathan and Ernie performed live on that show. It's just incredibly quaint now. There was, of course, more effort in the Aladdin "Friend like Me" lead up joke, as that one was scripted, had to be acted through, and then CGI Abu Monkey Animated. Plus, it did give us a long build up of anticipation. So it works better, but the jokes are essentially the same. Subversion of expectation.
Same they were the only time I heard the other audience around me laughing
Those two instances were the only times I laughed in the whole movie.
One thing I hate about this movie that wasn’t mentioned was how much they _botched_ Nala. In the original, she started off as a spunky, adventurous cub (like Simba) and in this one she’s a stick in the mud. And in the original as an adult, Nala was _ecstatic_ upon reuniting with Simba because she thought he was dead and that part of her life was gone forever and it’s like she’s been given a second chance. In this one she barely says two words to him before telling him The Pridelands are suffering.
Honestly the "dress in drag and do the hula" is still one of the best lines ever.
"Hamlet for Furries", omfg, my soul left my body.
The original is one of the best animated films ever made.
The remake is one of the most lifeless things I have ever seen.
I know, this should be a warning why you shouldn't try to remake a beloved Disney classic, almost word for word, and shot for shot! 😤
I mean, what were they thinking with the "live-action remakes"?
@@Joshua_Quinzel_Isley I'll give some of the remakes this, they had some good things in them: Elle Fanning's performance as Aurora, Neel Seth's performance as Mowgli, Eva Green as Colette in Dumbo.
@@Joshua_Quinzel_Isley 💰
@monica Aboites Lifless, wooden girl aside, I thought Dumbo was more watchable than this.
I hope Hans Zimmer has a good physiotherapist cause his back must hurt from carrying the entire film
I think it helped that he just had to take pages of a score he already wrote, and slightly modify them. Not the first time he's done that, one could argue, considering the "It's a Pirate" piece noticeably lifts passages from "The Battle" from Gladiator.
In the months before the release of the movie, Jeremy Irons said he was interested in reprising his role as Scar, but Disney never contacted him....let that further the rage!
My favorite unintentionally funny moment:
“Long live the king!” (Death by Cat-Slap)
Followed by Simba’s surprised cat face LOL!
There's something about that sequence that I swear they never seem to get quite right on even a typical level in adaptions. One thing I always found so sinister was how Scar was so quiet delivering the moment, almost implicitly bragging that he's won to Mufasa before sending him to his death.
In both this and the Broadway show, they have Scar shout the line and do a very exaggerated motion. I get the idea of trying to highlight the sense of triumph, but it goes against the scheming nature of the plan to me, and I feel unintentionally risks giving Simba something to question if he were to see Mufasa fall from the top of the cliff rather than only as he's falling, for example. It comes across as "over-acted" in a sense.
I *laugh* every time I see that shot of live-action Simba's big noooooooooo. And it's even funnier in slo-mo. It's as forced and cheesy as whenever Star Wars does it - which is bad in a movie that isn't trying to be campy.
@@papershadow Exaggerating it for the Broadway version makes more sense. You gotta make it so people in the back row can see it. In film you can be a lot more subtle about it, & it's what made it so effective in the original.
I understand why it was done, just that knowing what motivated the change is different from the change serving the moment better as part of the narrative. I would still cite it as a weaker version, just one by adaptational necessity for Broadway as opposed to unnecessary and weaker decisions for the CGI Film.
Next case: La La Land
This is the start of something controversial and brave.
I know, I actually gasped when I read next month's case. I figured that it was almost universally acclaimed, but evidently not! 😉😁
Thank you!
oh
I actually like that movie. Curious to see her take on it.
LA LA LAND?! But....but...that almost won Best Picture!
Dear Modern Disney, STOP SCREWING OVER "BE OUR GUEST"!!
Or these animated films.
“The new version of ‘The Lion King’ was a huge disappointment to me, because I believe they messed the music up. Music was so much a part of the original and the music in the current film didn’t have the same impact. The magic and joy were lost.”
-Sir Elton John, the composer of the original animated film's music who returned to work on the remake
Me: Please do the Monty Python thing
You: does the Monty Python thing
Me: Brava! *applause
I was appalled at what they did to "Be Prepared" and the ghost-in-the-clouds scene.
Those were the worst parts for me too. They took (arguably) the most iconic scenes in the original and completely butchered them.
Apparently no one has learned their lesson from the remake of Psycho. And these live action remakes will be just as forgotten as that.
The changes made for that remake was like out of an atrocious TV movie.
No, they learned their lesson. _Psycho (1998)_ made back just over half its budget, for a $23 million loss; _Lion King (2019)_ made six times its budget, for a $1.4 _billion_ profit.
That's the goal under capitalism. Not to make something profound, memorable, or even good, but to make money.
Oh, you mean the one with Vince Vaughn? Nope, I don't know what you're talking about
There was a remake of Psycho?
@@HlootooThunderhammer Yes, and much like this remake, it proves you can’t make lightning strike twice.
Also, when Mufasa let out the furious “SIMBA!!” in the original, I was almost wetting my pants. Everyone sounds kinda bored in the remake, so I was just thinking, “Oh...Mufasa’s kinda upset.”
Just remember the guy’s like 90 now😔
Serasia Not to mention he barely even looks Simba in the face during their heart-to-heart here. It really takes away the impact, in addition to the lack of facial expressions.
And when animated Mufasa goes on with “Simba I am very disappointed in you...” speech oh boi was that great. From deadly serious to worried to affectionate when they come to an understanding that whole sequence is great 😄
Fun fact : Jeremy Irons didn’t sing all of Be Prepared. Apparently he couldn’t hit the high notes nearer the end of the song, so part of it was sang by Jim Cummings
Iirc it was because he’d gone so hard before that point
So Darkwing Duck sang for Scar. Huh.
winnie the pooh as scar!
@@swedishhousemfia I now have the mental image of winnie the pooh singing it stuck in my head 🤣
@@amandalynn4979 I'd say more likely it was Negaduck. Darkwing would've changed the title from "Be Prepared" to "Let's Get Dangerous."
Hey, at least this is not the worst movie of 2019 involving CGI Cats (Wink, Wink)!
Yes please!!!!!!!
@@morinomajou That aged like fine wine. 🍷
When will Disney notice animation is it’s strongest tool? It can create memorable designs, movement and color palettes. Live action is of course closer to what we see every day and is not as powerful.
Wait. Jon Favereau directed this? The guy who's helming the successful and actually good "The Mandalorian"? Guess we've learned where his strengths lie, and it's not in remakes of disney classics (I'm sure a big issue is executives' expectations/demands/whatever, but still).
Yeah it feels weird knowing that too😅
I just hope he got paid well so there can be even more Mandalorian
@Cas van der Wal True that. I mean, Rian Johnson was Kathleen Kennedy's bitch regarding The Last Jedi
Wait, I thought this was by request.
That's how I'd heard it at least.
Disney: Great job Jon. The Jungle Book is a success, and we're looking to do more of the re-
Jon Favereau: I wanna do The Lion King!
Let’s just call this a CGI remake, alright?
Yep
CG-make?
Yes, because calling it “live-action” would be a such a big stretch.
*IT’S THE CIRCLE OF LIEEEESSSS*
6:34 The "Last Week Tonight" reference was a hilarious touch! 😂
You have no idea how long I've been waiting to make that joke.
Yeeeesssss. XD
@ oh I completely misread your comment. Sorry
Hi Diva. Have you ever considered talking about Barbie movies? There are some really good entries, especially the musicals.
I've mentioned that to her before myself actually! I'd love for her to tackle Princess & the Pauper especially, but Island Princess & Diamond Castle would be great picks too.
Yes! Those movies are my whole childhood
I'M JUST LIKE, YOU
YOU'RE JUST LIKE ME
@ Very true, because unlike P&P and IP, the whole plot of Diamond Castle is centered around the power and possession of music! 💖🎵
YES YES YES!
Peacocks: the drag queens of the animal kingdom.
They will forever be known as such by me.
I hate how the characters don’t have expressive faces
It's like many of the real-live actors on-screen.
Now, I'm not saying the live actors are bad at all.
What I mean is that they mostly don't give any facial expressions and fluid body movements like I do with myself and how they should.
Doing those said things can make their acting more superb and lively like an animated cartoon. I mean, come on fellas you're losing your heads.
real lions are more expressive than this
Simba learning his father's dead: 😐
And the fact that Naria did it better and that was the noughties!!!!
Simba screaming as his father falls to his death looks like my family's cat yelling for treats
I'm finding I have the same issue with a lot of these Disney Live-Action/Photorealistic Remakes:
They just look so bland to me.
Disney, for all their other faults, know how to animate, and especially the 90s movies had some of the most beautifully lush and vibrant color palettes around (I don't argue that Mulan, Pocahontas, Hercules and even Lion King have problems in storytelling, but their animation is beautiful.)
Most of the remakes just seem to be flat shadows or a lot of beige dust and sand.
First thought: The Lion King?! How COULD you?!
Second thought: Oh, THAT Lion King. Sass away.
I really appreciate the intelligent way she breaks down the problems with the remake without resorting to massive hyperbole though I do agree with the punishment of having the Disney execs watch Gus Van Sant's Psycho. I was wondering if she'd reference it. Good job, Diva!
On the one hand, I’m glad we didn’t get the morning report or chow down. On the other hand:
Shadowland
Endless Night
He Lives In You.
Am I the only one who doesn't hate the Morning Report song?
@@jeremyusreevu237 it’s okay. The problem with it is it slows down the pacing. They took a scene in the original that lasted about thirty seconds to a minute and extended it to three to four pun-riddled minutes that doesn’t add to the story.
Hell I don’t hate MOST of the songs in this movie except Be Prepared In fact I actually like this version of Hakuna Matata BETTER.
And the Award for the most pointless remake goes to .....
*Literally all Disney remakes past 10 years*
@@wormswithteeth Except for Pete’s Dragon
@@thecinematicmind And The Jungle Book
Walt Disney Animation Studios film remakes: Us...
Josie and the Pussycats: Allow me to introduce myself.
Thundercats Roar: I called my haters “poop mouth with poop opinions” so don’t forget about me when it comes to remakes of cartoons that are ALSO cartoons!
Sonic Genesis: And now... video games will be brought into this because I’m perhaps the worst video game remake since Pac-Man World 1 & 2 for the GBA (like how their original versions are the most underrated video games out there, especially PMW2)!
Thing is, they already had a retelling so to speak, there's a show in Kong Kong Disneyland called festival of the lion King and it's wonderful.
I saw the Lion King musical just literally days before covid shut down the world, and they cut out the Morning Report song, which I was kinda glad they did.
What makes the " be prepared " song even more frustrating here is the fact that the actor voicing Scar is a pretty decent singer
He is?
@@gracekim25 yes
He sung in Kinky Boots didn't he?
@@eamonndeane587 yup
I’ve always wondered if the Nazi imagery in “Be Prepared” meant anything besides “Scar is evil”
Although I’ve heard that darker-colored lions in real life have higher testosterone, so...maybe Scar considered himself genetically superior to Mufasa?
In the one of the original concepts of Lion King there was going to be a legitmate lion concentration camp run by Scar. Nala was also going to have a brother who would have gotten killed by Scar so he could be the only male. This was all scrapped for being far too dark.
@@Theravingranter we need an "adult" version of Lion King with all the dark scrapped ideas, that be 100 times better than this remake
@@Theravingranter I'm assuming Disney hoped we wouldn't notice the incest(with only Mufasa and Scar as the only adult males(err, before the end I mean), theres only one place Nala could come from....
Yeah. Think about it.
@@phousefilms No there is NO incest in Lion King what so ever. In Lion King 2 the creators went out of their way to make sure the couple weren't cousins and that was for a direct to video sequel. The creators have said they didn't think showing Nalas father was imperative because it did nothing for the story and just would have been another person for Scar to have to kill to assert dominance. Her father was most likely a rogue lion or died. It's very possible Serafina, Nala'a mother, came to the pride rock already pregnant and was Sarabis best friend which is why Nala was deemed good enough for Simba because her mother was on good terms with the queen. It is a common joke around the Lion King creators that the man who created Nalas character is her father. They even drew him as a lion lol
For me, "Be Prepared" is basically a microcosm of how all reactionary fascist regimes exploit the underclass - the Nazi imagery just makes the parallel clear. And that's why I find it really tragic that they chopped it. The whole point of the song is at the end, when Scar is singing about how awesome he is, while the Hyenas are chanting "We'll have food! Lots of food! There'll be meat! Endless meat!" That's basically most popular uprisings in a nutshell.
I have to wonder if Disney cut that specifically to de-politicize the movie, or maybe realized belatedly that they'd gone too far in negatively coding the hyenas as POCs. (HOCs?) Can't go openly saying the movie is about a race war, can we?
"It's like the Trump twitter of villain songs" That's wrong. I actually want to listen to Be Prepared.
True dat.
Right? I'd side with scar anyday over that rotting elephant carcass.
She was talking about the remake version.
That moment when you realize that they used multi-million dollar animation in order to animate a literal ball of sh*t. No seriously. Think about that for a moment: Someone actually had to sit down and spend countless hours using multi-million dollar equipment to animate a BALL OF SH*T!
To be fair the original implied zebras were about to poop on Zazu and TLK 1 1/2 had a lengthy montage of Timon taking Simba to use the bathroom so it’s not like this franchise was ever above showing or talking about poo poo, even if it was never quite this blatant about it.
@@MrAspiringactor Toilet humor is one thing. But the point I'm trying to make is that someone literally had to sit on a computer for countless hours animating excrement just so Disney could pad out the runtime.
They could have filmed a real dung beetle, but somehow that would cost more. Also, they did it because it was part of the... tuft of fur's... journey, which is gross and unnecessary. If they must have a dung beetle, they could have put it in the background to add more realism to the environment.
fun fact: the only real live shot in the movie if the opening shot. The rest is completely CG, even the backgrounds
And what they did in real life was in California...becouse its not like Africa has beautiful landscapes or anything.
As they say it's a shot for shot remake of The Lion King.
THIS is not an exact shot for shot remake of an animated classic.
And the wooden acting, lifeless expressions and more just ruins everything.
Try reviewing the 2019 remake of Aladdin BTW Diva.
Specially The song Be prepared
Aladdin was a masterpiece compared to this.
Aladdin was no masterpiece but at least there was some stuff in it that stood on its own and make it worth watching.
“Can you feel the love tonight”
They sing while surrounded by blazing daylight.
can you feel the love this nooooon
I guess they couldn't do it in the nightime, because everything would have been so dark and bland
You know what would've made this better if, in the end, Simba decides to make peace with the Hyenas despite everything because he could see that they were just desperate for survival like every other creature in the Circle of Life and allows them to live in peace in the Pride Lands after they denounced Scar which would not only make this different from the original but also help show Simba remembers his father's advice that the makings of a true king is to show what he can give not what he can take.
Everyone: Can you feel the love ? It's DAYLIGHT ! ! !
Me: Timon, do NOT pull that " Be Our Guest " crap here !
Glad to see you also enjoy Narnia, this shows that Disney had the ability to do such a thing, but... Didn’t.
That would take effort. Something Disney seems to be allergic to lately.
The original Lion King aged just fine. I saw none of the things in the movie you mentioned and still don't as an adult.
In the remake, James Earl Jones sounded tired af and they should have just used the old recordings of his lines instead. But every scene you mentioned, all I could of was how it originally looked.
Yeah. Felt like that was a FAR reach.
Agreed 100%. I saw it as an evil brother who wanted power and killed the king, as well as bringing in a competitive species. Literally saw nothing racist or homophobic or anything.
"NO! Bad movie! Bad! You go sit in the corner and think about what you've done!"
I honestly thought that Simba's scream was a distortion to make a joke when I watched Nostalgia Critic's review. Now I can't stop laughing!
I'd rate the movie... "a colossal waste of time".
should we ignore how Mufasa sounds like he just woke up?
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if that were actually the case.
The worst part is Favreau's 'naturalism' isn't naturalism at all. Lions have facial expressions, body language, etc. They're not always analogous to human expressions, but their expressions exist. They aren't lifeless cardboard cutouts from beginning to end.
OMFG..when you laughed at Mufasa's death i felt vindicated.. I was in the theater with my BF at the time..and I was bitching and complaining the entire time..until thay death scene..and I laughed...
And during the flashback...I laughed louder.
Yeah I lost faith in this project as soon as they announced James Earl Jones as Mufasa.
I try to avoid the "remakes are lazy" argument (low-hanging fruit, and I feel there are better critiques/ arguments to make), but yeah... I get it, it's James Earl Jones, but not even bothering to re-cast the part just reeked of laziness
And it makes us wonder why they didn't try the same maneuver with Jeremy Irons as Scar in that case, given that his performance was just as iconic.
I felt the same way but with Beyoncé as Nala. Beyoncé should have been sarabi but nope
Nobody could replace James Earl Jones as Mufasa.
Especially since he's almost 90. He sounds so old and tired here. Let the poor man retire already.
@@billybarnett9518 What about Keith David?
12:28 Wait why does this look familiar
12:41 (Queue scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail)
AH NOW I REMEMBER
This movie is so dull that all of the (valid) complaints about it have, in the span of one year, become circularly tired as the film itself is.
Congratulations, Lion King. *slow claps*
Also, La La Land is...fine. It's...alright. I didn't hate it, and Emma Stone's adorable.
getting sick of disney selling out with these remakes?
DISNEY: WE CREATE DREAMS...... and we destroy them.
Like, don't you think they made quite far more than enough money with not just these remakes but other smash-hit films like Avengers:Endgame and so on?
@@chasehedges6775 and increase ©
@@Joshua_Quinzel_Isley Don’t give your money to them.
Because they’ll keep making them as long as you keep buying your tickets to see them.
@@Joshua_Quinzel_Isley you can never make too much money 😆
Peacocks: the drag queens of the animal kingdom. I am going to remember that one.
Ah, Disney's "Animated less beautifully" remake.
I love James Earl Jones’s performance in this. Why? Because it’s such a great way of sticking it to the anti-recasting crowd who thinks iconic characters have to be monopolized by a single actor and no other actor could possibly do that character justice. James Earl Jones was too old to play Mufasa, he’s a mortal being like all of us, he sucked in this precisely because he’s so OLD, deal with it, fanboys XD
The scene when Timon and Pumba first appear on the horizon and the opening to the Live Action Mulan are making me start think that Disney really likes that Monty Python scene.
12:43 - I was thinking exactly "Favreau thinks he's doing 'Lawrence of Arabia' but it's more like that scene in 'Monty Python and the Holy Grail'."
When i first watched the movie, i had this weird disorientation of lack of "emotion". Having lived around cats my entire life, watching their bland, unemotive faces, bodies, ears, and tails, it felt like watching someone with a deadpan face saying emotional things.
Basically the lesson:
I don't enjoy looking at dead eyed animals for 2 hours
I’m getting more and more excited to see what review #100 will be!
missed sin: BEYONCE IS NOT A VOICE ACTOR!
She's not the worst singer whose tried their hand at voice acting. Rihanna's performance in Home makes her performance in this look Oscar Worthy by comparison.
True she’s not
@@gracekim25 Another example would be Lady Gaga in The Simpsons. As a live action actress, Germatta/Gaga has proven to be better than Beyonce at acting in just one movie. But say what you will about Beyonce, and she was miscast and mostly flat, there were at least times (like the argument scene or the Scar takes over the pridelands scene) where she tried to emote a little bit. If you watched Lady Gaga's Simpsons episode, though, she was flat and wooden throughout that whole thing, no matter what was happening. And she was literally voicing herself!
Beyoncé: But just you wait... until I play Tendai Stewart in The Goldinum! Then I’ll stun the world with how much lessons I took in order to become a great actor with several shots of me being fully naked with my thick muscly thighs, vajayjay and even bigger ass than ever before being kept in the picture! Just like those other chicks in teen sitcoms like iCarly and KC Undercover (Zendaya Coleman and Miranda Cosgrove)! 😃
@@kieranstark7213 I’m sorry, what?
God I was so upset that we didn't hear Beyoncé sing "Shadowland". Even if it was just on the soundtrack; that would've been enough.
The best "Live Action" Lion King will always be the Broadway Musical.
Me: "Sweet, I'm early!"
Comments: *3 days ago*
Patreon gets it early
@@laorille Ah okay thanks for the clear-up. 👍
I'm just going to come right out and say it.
Black Panther was a better live-action remake of The Lion King than the actual live-action remake was.
Exactly what I’m saying! Forest Whitaker’s cjaracter is such a Rafiki analog that I remember when a photo of T’Challa in the spirit realm was released prior to the film’s release, I joked with one of my friends that “this must be the scene when Forest Whitaker shows up and sings ‘He Lives In You’”
"it's like the trump twitter account of villain songs" i never thought a trump joke would still be able to make me laugh but you pulled it off!
It's probably because it was actually clever and not just another Orange/Russia/Gay joke.
The only thing i respect about this movie is that they accurately protrayed a Hyena matriarchy, which is disappointing that THAT is the only thing I liked about the movie
I thought with the focus on realism, simba wouldn't come back to live with his family and marry his half-sib. Correct me if i'm wrong, but simba should basically be related to everyone in the pride
Mufasa dies in 1994: *Crying like a Baby*
Mufasa dies in 2019: * Laughing Hysterically*
11:05 The worst part for me was that they had Chiwetel Ejiofor and he isn't actually singing. I'd love to hear his version of Be Prepared.
Really excited to see whatever review 100 is!
Man this is lifeless. I can only admire the animation for so long before being bored to tears at how poorly it’s being used.
literally the one thing i remember about this movie is the montage of simba's fur (instead of going on the wind directly to rafiki like in the animated film) ending up in a piece of giraffe shit. i'm pretty sure it was the last movie i saw in theaters before the pandemic hit, and i was alternately hysterically laughing and shielding my eyes from the screen because i couldn't believe what i was seeing. in hindsight, it's actually a pretty apt metaphor for this movie.
I find it funny how the live stage version of Lion King has more life in it than the "live action" version.
Just wanna get this off my chest: am I the only one that has NEVER seen Scar as a gay stereotype? Like, ever? I was so confused when she brought it up like it was obvious. Maybe that's just me?
I just see it as a guy being extra. Claiming he's "queer-coded" because he acts in an over-the-top manner, kinda reinforces the stereotype that all gay people are over-the-top and extra.
I saw this with one of my friends in theaters because we were morbidly curious about how much it sucked. People were clapping at the end when they played circle of life again and it cut to the credits and we were both like no. God, revisiting this movie pisses me off so much.
My parents recently admitted that they never really cared about the original movie for whatever reason and liked the other early Renaissance movies better. They said that they were impressed to “hear Mr. Bean talk normally” and that was about it. But I bet that if I showed them this movie they would appreciate the original more.
Show them this or disown them xx
Only props for this movie so far: There's an aardvaark in it.
THANK YOU DIVA. THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED.
These Musical Hell reviews are great. Spot on and entertaining!
Diva has gotten quick and efficient in her punishments.
“Be prepared” from the original was perfect