And another thing. If La La Land was meant to be a love letter to golden age movie musicals, I personally think “Cats Don’t Dance” was a better homage.
Unpopular opinion: I was actually glad that Mia and Sebastian ultimately broke up. They seemed to have no chemistry together, and felt that Mia was better off with her husband, who seemed to really love, support and appreciate her for herself.
That scene where Seb goes to Mia's house to take her to an audition then tells her to "Stop being a baby" because she looks upset and doesn't know what she wants to do makes my skin crawl
Honestly, the fastest way to get *me* to hate a character (that isn’t literally making them a Nazi, pedophile, and/or terrorist...and even then you can find nuance from that) is having the artiste who finds working at a job with consistent money to be the absolute definition of “selling out”. The other side of that coin is a “filmmaker” who just shoots whatever, claims it’s their “vision” and that they’re entitled to be praised for their ART! (which is why I can’t get through Rent without wanting to jump up and down on Mark’s windpipe with the heaviest pair of boots I own)
@@ThatRandomEncounterGuy Are you Lindsay Ellis's secret account? She spent a good chunk of her video essay on the movie raking Mark over the coals for that very reason (she started off calling him "the worst thing that ever happened," and only got less charitable from there.)
I agree. The ending is unambigiously happy. Both Mia and Seb got exactly what they wanted (being a famous actor and getting their jazz bar) and the only thing they don't have is a tepid relationship with each other that they were only in for a few months anyway.
Really. And having taken a course on the history of 19th century Gothic arts, I can safely say that the classical music scene would've gotten so unbearably dull if it just stuck with Baroque and never evolved to the likes of Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky.
@@LaydiNite If Wikipedia is to be believed, then his music falls under jazz fusion with Latin American music and rock and roll. His musical style technically falls under jazz music but is probably much more distinct from traditional forms of jazz, which is probably why many might not consider him to be a jazz musician. If anything, Santana's style might be more similar to Kieth's style of jazz than Seb's style.
I did love the Starkid acting company reacting to it. They were so over it from the start. paraphrasing their remarks: "Oh after SIX years of trying she's ready to give up. Darling, we've been doing this for upwards of 10 years. If you love acting, it's not about being famous at it." "If she's getting callbacks, then she's not a failing or struggling actress. Callbacks are a form of success." and "Was I supposed to feel bad? Emma Stone's character got everything she wanted. Who cares if she's not with Gosling?"
Okay no joke, if the rest of La La Land was like the opening, I would have loved it so much more and would've called it one of my favorite movies of 2017.
Yeah, I couldn't get behind the white savior of All Jazz Music Ever, and even the trailers with their pasty white Los Angeles rubbed me the wrong way. Add into that the Hollywood-writing-about-Hollywood vibe (my main problem with...well, _every_ movie & show about Hollywood) and I just could not care less about this one.
I remember after I said I didn't like this movie other people said I "didn't get it" and that "you just don't like musicals". I still have to wear glasses because of how hard I rolled my eyes.
What I don't get is why writers think characters like Sebastian make a good protagonist...well, no, I think I do, but confronting that is immensely depressing...
I find it interesting that John Legend was one of the producers of the movie, and yet he got stuck playing one of those "characters that are supposed to be wrong without actually DOING anything wrong." It's like the reverse of the Jacques Morali character (Steve Guttenberg) in Can't Stop the Music.
Yep, the director even stated in an interview that it's intended as a "Love letter to Hollywood", so it's merely an excuse to praise the glamorous end of Tinsel Town, while downplaying the more seedy aspects of the entertainment industry. 😊
To me, it feels like the "I was Born in the Wrong Generation, I'm So Special" of movies. It's pretty obvious that the strong point of this movie is its style - It knows how to present a big fantasy dance number in the style of the classic Golden Age. But the main characters taint it with this snooty attitude that the old ways were the best and that nO oNe ApPrEcIaTeS aRt AnYmOrE. Seb is the big example of that, but I really rolled my eyes when Mia's big break, after dozens of auditions for roles beneath her talent for people who don't recognise her gift, comes in the form of a movie without a script, where the filmmakers are specifically looking for a new actress to showcase and entirely build their movie around. A movie being made in PARIS, no less!
Precisely, Keith comes off as far more likable than our ACTUAL male lead Sebastian, and he makes perfect sense when he points out that Jazz, much like everything else, evolves over time, and can't stay the same forever. 🎹🎶
Art is all about evolving. Otherwise it just becomes stagnant. Nothing wrong with keeping the classics around, but they can’t be the end-all, be-all. Also, I love how the filmmakers staged it where everyone is enjoying the music except for Mia because “lol, people are sheep who can’t appreciate real art!” Did I say “love?” I meant “hate with the burning passion of a thousand suns.”
I agree, the main two were both insufferable asses and John Legend’s character was not only more likable, but also more talented and made a lot of good points. It pissed me off that the narrative made it look like he was wrong.
Apparently the Academy thought so too. "LaLa Land" lost the sound mixing Oscar to "Hacksaw Ridge", somewhat surprising since musicals tend to do well in the category.
For me, one of the lowest bar in musicals was if I could remember any song from it after watching it for the first time, even if its the least popular song or I don’t remember any song from this movie. I actually struggled remembering any number from this musical
When the leads finally broke up, all I could think of was that Lucille Bluth gif. "Good for her." Also, I find it ironic that the so-called "sellout" character is played by the best singer in the cast, & (strictly in my opinion) the best JC Superstar to date.
I’ll agree with everything except the JCS - Legend’s “Gethsemane (I Only Want to Say)” was a cringefest - he has nowhere near the vocal range for an operatic rock aria.
12:12 THANK-YOU! The greatest, most revolutionary artists (or artistic minds) of all time, were not the ones who spent all their days stuck in the past and digging in their heels, they were the ones who had one foot in the door to the past and the other in the one to the future!
Well, clearly you're not, since The Diva gave zero fucks about Ryan Gosling's looks/performance and just went straight at Sebastian's characterization.
I understand your misgivings. From my perspective, the technically impressive eye candy and clear love of the genre was enough to overwrite that, to my mind, and I'd be lying if I said this film didn't make me tear up with nostalgia a few times. That said, I totally get why people aren't into this one, for reasons beyond being someone who just doesn't enjoy musicals. It's alright with me, though. I agree that John Legend's character is totally correct though, speaking as a jazz singer myself. One of the things we do at the clubs is what Postmodern Jukebox does: rearrange modern pop songs into more retro musucal styles that feel at home in the jazz club. No one argues that we're defacing jazz, whenever we do that, in my experience. We don't have that many Seb types, where I live.
There are parts of the movie that do work--Mia's anger and despair when she's ready to give up hit hard (because been there) and "Audition" is a strong theme statement for the movie. But there's some kind of reverse synergy going on where the whole ends up less than the sum.
@@MusicalHell I can see that. I know some people who have also "been there," and I definitely get more skeptical of Mia and Seb getting together with each rewatch. But, the good parts were enough for me to still really connect, even if it almost entirely comes down to the film's aesthetic, and the quality of the music as it was written and orchestrated. It was clear that Chazelle had a massive fondness for the 50s movie musical aesthetic, as did Justin Hurwitz for the shameless cheesiness of older film scores. Seeing it so authentically captured in a modern movie was a lot of fun in and of itself, for me, despite what I can at least agree is a rather weak character dynamic and story. I will at least wholeheartedly agree that Seb can sod off with his jazz attitude portrayed in the movie, speaking as someone who's actually a part of that community. As you said in this vid, there is so much more to jazz than the kind that makes him think jazz is "dying." It would be like people saying that rock music is dying, because there's basically no new rockabilly-type songs anymore, or that orchestral music is dying, because modern composers in that field are incorporating electronic music elements to them. Just because an older genre or subgenre of music is now niche, when it wasn't at an earlier time, doesn't mean it's dying. It just means that it has now found its core audience, and that audience is all it now needs. There are still Baroque music festivals even now which sometimes include original pieces serving as throwbacks to that era, and that style "died" over two and a half centuries ago.
@@moviemaestro800 I am actually now wondering what the movie would have been like if Keith and Seb had switched places. I think Keith would have made a more compelling male lead than Sebastian and would have probably gotten along with Mia a little better as well. I personally liked this movie as well, but I did feel myself rooting more for Mia than Sebastian. I didn't care for Sebastian much.
@@winters_revolt Yeah, the more I think about it the more Seb feels tailor-made to fit the douchebag mould. That's a good trait for both a foil for Keith and a romantic false lead for Mia, which he technically *is* - but for some reason Chazelle looked at that character type and went 'hey, why don't we make him the hero and frame him as the endgame love interest until the last possible minute?' (and hey, it turns out there's a *reason* we don't do that...)
Fingers crossed that we get some Roasted Jellical Felines for the Special 100th episode. Does Diva have a Sinfully Good Champagne to celebrate the Occasion?
It's gonna be a bloodbath and I'm here for it. And I don't want to pressure her, I just want to make sure she knows "The American Mall" exists. She could have a field day roasting that thing.
@@ChantelCarter-cc7cu I only really do because "The New You" is a weapons grade earworm I find myself singing to this very day... and would likely be a Saving Grace if I were the one doing it.
Ah, what a way to say “fuck off, 2020!!”, and “2021, please be better for the love of all that is wicked” than to finally visit the Jellical Ball from last year; if so I will be there in a heartbeat and have a glass of champagne to toast off the 100th case and to a new year! (Though if she does do that movie, hopefully two of the Saving Graces are Francesca Hayward and the Skimbleshanks, The Railway Cat number since out of all the numbers that is best one; take out the visuals and just have the song and you can picture a better scene in your head)
"What is it with Pasek and Paul and aggravating leading men?" YES. Add Evan Hansen to that list, please. (Sorry DEH fans, I can't get past the faking a deep relationship with someone who died by suicide to avoid difficult conversations with grieving family members for months concept).
THANK YOU. DEH has a decent sound (though not good enough to justify all those Tonys that should’ve gone to Great Comet, which I’ll die mad about lmao), but Evan himself plays into every one of those “people with anxiety or mental illnesses are manipulative jerks” stereotypes that were already ageing poorly a decade before the musical was written, haha.
Likewise, Evan seems to be forgiven by everyone almost immediately after the whole ruse falls apart, especially by his ex girlfriend, whom he arguably lied to the most. 😒
But ... "hE wAs sUfFeriNg of MENThAL heALt IsuEss ThAiS!!!" Tap tap tap on Evan Hansen for being a terrible person who do actually terrible things for selfish reasons. And Tap tap too to the producers of DEH for justifying it under the flag of "this is a story of a misunderstood caracter who deserves empathy" instead of take a route more mature, realistic and instrospective of the mater
@@trinaq I was so mad at the ending when I saw it (like we're just going to skip the character growth altogether and jump to a year later? Excuse me?) that to this day it's the only musical where I've left before the cast bows.
Let's get this straight: 1. The story is weak. 2. The characters are annoying. 3. The songs are meh. 4. John Legend is the only cast member who can actually sing. So why was this movie such a big deal anyway?
Yeah, of all the weird contrivances in this movie, the one I had the hardest time accepting was the idea that being keyboardist in a popular jazz-fusion band is such a terrible fate. (Also, the neon electro-keyboard is awesome and Seb's a fool if he can't appreciate it. ;->)
I grew an intense hate for this movie the moment they said jazz fusion wasn't "real jazz", like fuck off, John Legend's song was one of the best tracks, if not the best track.
@@FM-cp6kc Seb really would have been so much more redeemable if his time in the fusion band had broadened his musical horizons and got him to be less of an elitist.
4:35: Idealistic dreamers can be great characters-a beacon of joy and hope in what could otherwise be a pointlessly depressing story-or they can be utter drags on the story (whether by being annoyingly chipper or annoyingly narcissistic). Are there any Idealistic characters who are just okay? I can't think of any, though almost by definition they'd be unmemorable.
I think one key way to avoid them being grating like Sebastian is to have them be very empathetic. When I think of all the idealistic dreamer characters I love, the common thing linking them all is their empathy towards others. Another thing that would've gone a long way is to have his core emotional struggle not be being the white savior of Jazz, but what do I know?
@@timothymclean The biggest problem with Sebastian is his vision of his idealism. A good idealistic dreamer would probably be like Orpheus from Hadestown, who dreams about fixing the seasons with song. People can get behind that. Sebastian’s dream is literally just “Everyone else shut the fuck up. Only I play real jazz.” I mean it’s telling that his dream is owning a Jazz club and not having a career as a Jazz musician. His goal isn’t creating jazz music that people love, it’s owning a space where he can control all of the music.
Yeah. I rolled my eyes every time someone says how miraculous or something this movie is, because to me, that's the most pretentious and useless compliment you can give
@@colleen4ever Ah! The old "make an obvious Hollywood circle jerk film to win an award" trick. Second time I fell for it this week. Eh, would you believe Best Director? Would you believe Best lighting? How about Best Best Boy Grip? Too many Get Smart references? Sorry about that Chief.
When I was in college, the film kids adored La La Land. As the creative media kid, we shared some classes. I was terrified to tell them I actually found it a bit disappointing. It’s a good film, but it missed the mark for me. Now I can say it openly 😂
LA LA Land is odd because when it came out everyone loved it and I watched it and was disappointed because I didn't think it was as good as everyone said. It starts out strong but I feel it peters out. Certainly from a music point of view. However, as time has gone on more and more people seem to dislike it and claims it's elitist and racist (not unfair criticisms) and just generally isn't very good.
Yeah, I genuinely do not understand why it was so popular. Watching it was a real "Am I on crazy pills?!?" moment. I heard people talking about how tragic the romance in LLL was, or how they loved the characters, and I just can't even comprehend that. To me, the only debate is which of the protags sucks more.
I first watched it because it was an Oscar-winning musical. Of course, my musical-loving ass is gonna watch it. But while it is ok as a movie, it sucks as a musical because the songs aren’t sung very well, and they are all forgettable as fuck.
I remember watching the tap dancing scene and just being disappointed. Perhaps it's because I did tap, but I was expecting Fred and Ginger, and it was just OK.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 your point? Sure, Disney has a certain style, but come on! The song has so much energy, so powerful in just... jaiehr gurggskrhvbb
Honestly, the biggest annoyance for the movie ending for me is the idea that Mia had to have a kid within the five year gap; I mean, she's a budding movie actress. Getting married in that time frame is one thing, but having a child that she presumably gave birth to? Hollywood is notoriously awful towards pregnant actresses, even A-List actresses often have to take time-off for lack of parts available to them. So the idea that she would have the career, the husband, AND the baby within five years is just peak Hollywood denial of reality to me.
I grew an intense hate for this movie the moment they said jazz fusion wasn't "real jazz", like fuck off, John Legend's song was one of the best tracks, if not *the* best track.
La La Land stole its plot from "New York, New York". I'm surprised this doesn't get noticed more often. The difference is LLL cast actors who couldn't carry the material as characters who had no chemistry. NYNY makes a grand tragedy out of almost the same material and is 1000x the movie, testament to the power of casting.
Alltought that film was directed by the guy who made films that ( intentional or not ) glorify/glamorazie orginazied crime and gangsters despite showing the characters as deplorable but still end up being sentimental over them. And he said superhero films aren't "cinema" ( Wich is like saying jazz isn't music ) Both Chazzele and Scorsese have a similar and inconsistent direction. Whereas Goodfellas felt overly sentimental, Casino was a lot harder. Likewise, in Chazzele's case, Whiplash was brutal while La La Land is sentimental.
Honestly, I know I’m going to be in the minority on this one, but I REALLY want it to be The Devil’s Carnival. I mean, really, can you think of a better 100th case than an actual hell-centered musical brought to us by the same people responsible for Repo! The Genetic Opera?
Nah, Brie Larson's character from Unicorn Store actually realized the world didn't revolve around her, and that she needed to grow and work on herself and find happiness outside of her whole 'ART' thing.
Sebastian is the worst kind of artiste protagonists. White, privileged dude who can just tank or quit jobs, because he has a perfectly fine life that won't be effected negatively by doing so. His only true conflict is others not understanding how great of an artist he is.
@@thecinematicmind Moulin Rouge is at least fantastical romantic nonsense. La la Land is relatively grounded. And Sebastian is like too many real life guys in LA that stumble into success and still whinge about how no one truly understands art but them.
I just realised this movie is like a reverse Rock of Ages (The stage version, not the movie version.) Instead of the main couple realising that their dreams are an idealistic fantasy, that the industry bullshit they have to go through isn't worth it and that their relationship is, this couple go through the whole expectations meet the real-world career disappointment, but then actually end up getting exactly what they always wanted and break up.
As a fan of this film, your viewpoint I completely understood. The critique was fair, your points were clear and the way you put up points with your critique was valid. I love this movie a lot but I love this review you did. And you better trash Cats a HUGE BLACK HOLE TYPE punishment for your 100th review, that would be glorious.
When you get here before the hate comments swarm in but now you can’t see how juicy they are: “The only thing about being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness”
I found myself singing City of stars after I first heard it. But it is difficult to listen to because Ryan Gosling is not a good singer. I enjoyed seeing you rip this movie a new one. I will never forget how Moonlight showed then at the Oscars. An inde movie winning against a high produced Hollywood movie that celebrate Hollywood.
It seems weird that Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling have no chemistry here. They were adorable together in "Crazy Stupid Love". It must be the writing and direction.
Glad to see a review that highlights how Start a Fire is too much of a bop and John Legend is way too talented for Sebastian's "plight" about playing pop music to be remotely empathetic
Yeah. When I first saw this movie, I thought it was really boring. I just couldn't wait until the movie ended bc there was nothing going on that made me want to continue watching it.
@@lorzl1287 To be fair, musicals have two parts: the music, and the story. You seem to like the music, but you don't like the story very much, which I understand completely, so don't worry.
I would have sinned it for the nearly half-an-hour it spends NOT being a musical, while Seb and Mia wallow in the melodrama of it all. I found the whole going-home sequence to be absolutely interminable.
You really verbalised all my issues with this film and I thank you for it! I had to study it in film studies and I felt awkward for hating it because the vocal people loved it! The ending is the worst bit - it should have ended before the 5 years later section. Would have been a more powerful ending because as you said, it wasn’t earned. It felt like it was shoehorned in.
There is a version of this movie that could work. And I know the word is abused a lot by directors today, but this movie could have worked fantastically as a subversion of the typical musical narrative. Something I considered when listening to Another Day of Sun (which I do still hold is a fantastic song in its own right) and considering the subtext is that several of the main singers talk about Hollywood as it is in movies and TV, as this place where a hardworking dropout with a dream can still become a major player in the shuffle. And there was something about that blatant devotion to that ideal (plus the subtext of the black and white colorvision logo morphing into color) that made me think the movie would twist the theme. Maybe Mia wouldn’t become a famous actor and wouldn’t have accomplished her dream, but still finds happiness in the fact that she tried despite the naysaying of her folks at home, and maybe still finds love with someone who’s not Seb. Maybe Sebastian realized John Legend was right and that his devotion to the old ways of jazz were exactly the reason people don’t connect with it, and maybe he either drops the dream or does come around to Legends way of thinking. But the fact that the movie does play everything so straight is just so infuriating. It hurts even more considering the last work of the director was Whiplash, a movie that was equally subversive and had far better characters and a lot of possible nuance to how everyone was. I guess they just wanted to shoot for Oscars though...
[Sipping my vindication juice with a smirk on my face, because I have always hated this movie.] The only thing I really think is good about it is Anti-Depressants are So Not A Big Deal existing as a result and therefore winning the Best Original Song Emmy (RIP, Adam Schlesinger). Though I do agree with the entirety of the sins you lined out, I think Mia is just as annoying as a character as Sebastian, albeit for different, more metatextual reasons. It's a role so obviously tailored to tug at the heartstrings of Academy voters and make them remember when they were the young struggling starlet with big dreams, and it WORKED. >_
This is such a mood-I was inspired to watch La La Land because of how much I love Anti-Depressants are So Not A Big Deal, and it was such a letdown! No one in the movie aside from John Legend was as good a singer as Michael Hyatt, and CxG handled its flawed protags so, so much better than La La Land handled Sebastian. Also, very much agree...Mia's honestly very shallow compared to Sebastian, and it feels almost insidious how she was tailor made to have a certain appeal, and no character outside of that.
I took my parents to watch this for their anniversary... all three of us hated it. Me, my mum and dad hated Sebastian and his white saviour bullshit. Like, there was nothing to like about him and I was just sitting therw waiting for Mia to dump his sorry behind!
I ... have an issue with musicals where the lead characters aren't really good singers. My gosh I can sing as well as she can, and I'm your bargain-basement-variety choir alto.
One quick trivia bit I was just reminded of: This film was possibly responsible for saving the historic "Angels Flight" funicular railway in L.A. A nearly identical replica of the 1901 original, which was sadly lost to development in 1969, the current version was built in 1996 using some of the original parts including both the original passenger cars. However, the ride had been shut down since an accident in 2013 and its future was in doubt. However, as it was a symbol of classic Hollywood, the ride featured prominently in one of La La Land's musical sequences, which has been credited with reminding audiences of its existence and historical prominence. Possibly as a result, the ride was restored to operation a year after the film in 2017 and today continued to transport passengers up and down Bunker Hill.
You know even just seeing a clip of that scene I am so with you on Sebastian. He’s one of those music gatekeepers that drives away people from the genre they so claim to love with their elitism and arrogance. Ugh I’m happy they didn’t get together either he’d make anyone miserable.
The suspense is killing me! Not letting us know what is the 100th episode? I'm still hoping it's a certain 2019 movie musical involving a four legged creature.
As an aside, you know what continues to grind my gears about La La Land? That its inexplicable mega-success buried the Coen Bros' "Hail Caesar!" which is a better starry-eyed tribute to classic Hollywood in just about every possible way. (Although I'm not sure why Hail Caesar was released so early in the year, which admittedly didn't help. *But still.* )
Honestly, the only song in the Soundtrack I ACTUALLY liked was A Lovely Night. Out of Context of the movie, it sounds like two character that have great chemistry. It's perfectly written for the ranges of our two singers (seems to be the only song that did that-) and it's amazing to me that a song that's so romantic and makes me want to see two people together- IS IN A MOVIE WHERE I /DONT'/ WANT THE TWO LEADS TO GET TOGETHER. What? Did they hire great writers for that ONE SONG?! Edit: Crazy excited to see what number 100 will be! Fingers crossed for the Devil's Carnival.
I felt the exact same way about this movie. I really wanted to like it, but it just fell flat for me. And I completely agree that The Fools Who Dream is the best song in La La Land.
Watching this, something dawned on me. Sebastian as a character is a younger version of Mr. Fletcher from Whiplash. That scene in the jazz club and his whole demeanor toward jazz feels like the "there are no two words more harmful than "Good Job"" speech from Whiplash. The difference is, while Whiplash recognizes the toxicity of that character and that line of thinking (even though the film ultimately subscribes to the fact that there's some merit to it), Sebastian is played up as the hero, so his worldview is never questioned or explored in any meaningful beyond it being his dream, and I feel that's where Damien Chazelle as a writer failed Sebastian. I feel like he ascribed to this character his own passion for jazz, and while he explored the toxicity of it in Whiplash, La La Land is, by design, a more shallow movie, so it can't really explore that. Still and all, I think there are worst people out there than Sebastian. I feel La La Land is ultimately about that person in your life that you were never meant to spend the rest of your life with, but who was crucial to a specific part of your journey, and while you may at times wonder what life with this person would be like if you were meant to spend the rest of your life with them, in the end, what was meant to happen happened. That's how I read the ending anyway. Sebastian is constantly pushing Mia, even when she's giving up, and that was exactly what she needed at that particular point (and yes, Sebastian wasn't always the best person while doing it, but he pushed her to write her one-woman show and then picked her up to take her to the audition). I do agree Sebastian is flawed and I definitely think the movie would have been better if it questioned his worldview more, but I've met people who are way worst. Also, Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone have amazing on-screen chemistry, even I agree these two people were ultimately wrong for each other. Watch Crazy Stupid Love for another example of just how radiant their chemistry (thenagain, these are two actors who usually have great chemistry with their co-stars). That said, I do agree the movie is never as good as Another Day of Sun (maybe the scene in the planetarium), Ryan and Emma can't sing and yes, How Far I'll Go and Audition are both way better songs than City of Stars (or maybe it's just that City of Stars never feels like a complete song).
THIS was the big musical Hollywood big wigs went bananas over? Tenacious D's film is miles better due to: A more developed relationship between the leads Better musical numbers And an ending that was truly earned. Can't wait for episode 100! Been a fan since the beginning and I hope to be for another 100!!!!!
Everything about this movie puts a bad taste in my mouth. I can't find it in me to give a shit about the characters or their struggles, the music is dull in my opinion, and there are already way too many movies about how noble and tragic show business is. (Also: City of Stars is a godawful song!)
Me: I’m guessing it’s her final episode My Fennekin: Don’t get us wrong We don’t want you to stop Diva you try very hard & succeed many times mostly all the guest star appearances My Pikachu: Look Diva we all support you but we’re all starting get worried about you My Piplup: you been on TH-cam too long My Eevee: your cool but we’re worried about we’re you’ll end after your 100 episode My pachirisu: you review almost every bad musical out there even Leadens of Oz you even scared Animat & Were wondering how you’ll turn out after that well you still be around or will it be best for you to move on from TH-cam now we’re really consider My popplio: and I’m wondering how you’ll do in hell for much longer My pikachu: you must figure out your future Me: & decided if you want to remain in hell or not My Fennekin: and we hope your future will be great My popplio: but no matter what you’ll legacy Will be remembered for a very long time
@@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002 Diva hasn't even got to the likes of South Pacific (1958), Tommy (1975), Lisztomania (1975), New York New York (1977), One From The Heart (1982), Pink Floyd The Wall (1982), Absolute Beginners (1986), Everyone Says I Love You (1996), Evita (1996), Joe's Apartment (1996), The Producers (2005) and Fame (2009). Plenty to choose from. 😃
@@stuartkenny7430 Oh, that's not all. There's an entire dumpster fire of musical media that Diva hasn't covered. Can't believe you haven't mentioned "Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure" [2012], "Star!" [1968], "Hello Dolly" [1969], "Blues Brothers 2000" [1999], "Give My Regards To Broad Street" [1984], "Duets" [2000], "Staying Alive" [1983], "Cool As Ice" [1991], "Marci X" [2003], or "Raise Your Voice [2004]", and countless others I'm sure I've forgotten about. Some of which I'm not sure I'd ever heard of in my life, like "Song One" [2014], "Roller Boogie" [1979], "Thank God It's Friday" [1978], "The Blue Bird" [1976], "Body Rock" [1984], "Bratz" [2007], The Step Up Franchise, "Standing Ovation" [2010], or even THE ENTIRE ELVIS PRESLEY MUSICAL FILM CATALOGUE!
@@jenneacubero1036 plz no! The art world cant take that much entitlement! Besides Mark would be like "I cant make my bad film with a kid!" and give him Seb to an Orphanage
THANK YOU! I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't like "La La Land". I was also looking forward to the movie when I saw the trailers. You can imagine my disappointment when the film turned out to be nothing like it was advertised. All the best scenes in the trailers came from the fantasy epilogue.
I think a big flaw of the movie is the white A-list actors... for me it trully feels forced that these beautiful well known actors seem to be struggling in Hollywood. I know they are actors and that’s their jobs, but it really throws me off every time I watch it. I think there is definitely some problems with the structure of the movie, but unknown actors of color would, in my opinion, improve the movie way more, and also be more authentic for the overall message of the movie in the process. Anyways, great video girl👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
For all the hype this movie got on release and its Oscar nominations, I was always suspicious of it for having no clear idea of what it was all about from the trailers and reviews; everybody praised the hell out of its cinematography and acting (in broad strokes), but clammed up when it came to anything specific regarding the plot. I couldn't even tell what time period it was meant to be in or the level of reality we were dealing with; best I could guess was a Chicago-style modern reality with 40's-50's Golden Age fantasy elements. As a result, as much as I'm generally a fan of movie musicals, I just could not find any interest for this one. After this review, it sounds like I dodged a bullet. Setting aside the utter lack of chemistry between the two leads, the shallow moralizing about "selling out" versus "passion for your art", which is even more shallowly executed, all of which would be fatal blows to any film in their own right, there's one aspect that especially bothers me thanks to this review: The idea of the main character being "the savior of Jazz". Um, no, he's not, because jazz doesn't need saving. Jazz as a musical genre is more alive and well now than it ever has been in its past hundred years of existing as a musical genre! While it may not be at the top of pop charts now, it is still being invoked by such big names as Mehgan Trainor, Taylor Swift, even John Legend who is in this film! Go to any city in America and you will find at least one local jazz ensemble performing live every night (in areas not shut down because of the COVID Death Plague, of course). They may not always be conventional takes on the genre, but as Diva herself points out there are so many subschools of jazz as to render any claims about what is or isn't "conventional" practically moot. Let me put it this way; Four Words: 8. Bit. Big. Band. You have a full scale orchestra ranging in size from 25 to 65 members getting together purely to perform jazz renditions of video game music! And you're trying to tell me with a straight face that capital J "Jazz" is dying and in need of saving?! Fuck off! P.S. Kieth's comment about "How are you so stuck in the past? Jazz is about the future," is just as right as it is wrong. Yes, some genres of jazz do lean more toward a progressive sound, but there are other subgenres that center around preserving and progressing the styles of the past; his synthesized postmodern take is no less valid than a classic big band swing group. Particularly as a historian with a personal penchant for music, this line rubs me the wrong way. You don't have to be stuck in the past, but you also don't have to use holding onto the past as a reason someone is in the wrong. You want an example of how past and future forms of jazz can exist together at the same time? Try some Caravan Palace or Caro Emerald for examples of a little thing called "electro-swing", and then tell me how jazz is "about the future" in such absolute tones.
Thank you - I love electro swing and big band and blues and all the other delightful little side jaunts the genre has had and so the weird plot point of "lets save and argue over Jazz" was where I started yelling at the TV. After stopped rolling my eyes at the White Savior bit. Also the scene where he forcibly drags her to a jazz club to explain to her that her experiences with jazz music is Wrong and she should feel Bad was awful. She clearly is talking about smooth jazz which IS more or less background noise compared to whatever the goddamn hell he's hung up on. How is this supposed to be a romantic lead? Mansplaining someones experience isn't sexy.
@@lissaquon607 Right?! And that's not even touching on international jazz; the German vocal quintets of the Weimar Period like the Comedian Harmonists, or modern Japanese jazz-Jpop fusion. And what about Chaphop, rap lyrics with a pseudo-Victorian bent? Jazz can even infect other musical genres, even ones as diverse as Celtic or Klezmer! So tell me again how your pompous keyboard piddling is representing all Jazz?
I remember seeing this in theaters and liking it, but feeling like something was...missing somehow? Like it was ok, but it could have been so much better. I think Diva really summed it up. If they had made the banter between Seb and Mia more flirty and teasing and less mean-spirited and confrontational made Seb more likeable and less pretentious (or at least called him out on his pretentious behavior), I would have liked it way better.
I will give this movie the saving grace that they did not give this couple a happy ending. There are too many movies that fabricate a happy ending to a couple that should never be together in the first place.
And another thing. If La La Land was meant to be a love letter to golden age movie musicals, I personally think “Cats Don’t Dance” was a better homage.
Cats Don't Dance is criminally underrated
Unpopular opinion: I was actually glad that Mia and Sebastian ultimately broke up. They seemed to have no chemistry together, and felt that Mia was better off with her husband, who seemed to really love, support and appreciate her for herself.
Oh you are not alone my friend.
That scene where Seb goes to Mia's house to take her to an audition then tells her to "Stop being a baby" because she looks upset and doesn't know what she wants to do makes my skin crawl
Honestly, the fastest way to get *me* to hate a character (that isn’t literally making them a Nazi, pedophile, and/or terrorist...and even then you can find nuance from that) is having the artiste who finds working at a job with consistent money to be the absolute definition of “selling out”. The other side of that coin is a “filmmaker” who just shoots whatever, claims it’s their “vision” and that they’re entitled to be praised for their ART! (which is why I can’t get through Rent without wanting to jump up and down on Mark’s windpipe with the heaviest pair of boots I own)
@@ThatRandomEncounterGuy Are you Lindsay Ellis's secret account? She spent a good chunk of her video essay on the movie raking Mark over the coals for that very reason (she started off calling him "the worst thing that ever happened," and only got less charitable from there.)
I agree. The ending is unambigiously happy. Both Mia and Seb got exactly what they wanted (being a famous actor and getting their jazz bar) and the only thing they don't have is a tepid relationship with each other that they were only in for a few months anyway.
Sebastian's views on Jazz are like a classical musician saying the only true music is Bach, Beethoven and Brahms and refuses to play any new works.
One of the best lines from the movie is "how can you be a revolutionary when you're so stuck in the past, jazz is about the future."
Really. And having taken a course on the history of 19th century Gothic arts, I can safely say that the classical music scene would've gotten so unbearably dull if it just stuck with Baroque and never evolved to the likes of Tchaikovsky and Stravinsky.
Do you mean to tell me her breathy, barely in tune singing got picked over the absolutely hardcore pipes on Moana’s main actress?
Yep, and Auli’i Cravalho was 14 when she voiced Moana.
The singers don't determine the Best Song Oscar. The tune and the lyrics do. Of course, the singers help.
Wait a second, are you joking? THIS BEAT HOW FAR I’LL GO!!!!!!?
@@LaineMann Yep! th-cam.com/video/lT5AHleSYKk/w-d-xo.html
This proves that hamilton wouldn't get nominated
I'll be honest, all those scenes of Sebastian and Keith reminded me of those times when some kid lectured me on my culture and religion.
@@artemisfowldragon very relatable 👍🏻
I'm guessing you're the Keith in those situations.
Sebastian: "Jazz is dying, and I'm going to save it."
Carlos Santana: Am I a joke to you?
Is Santana considered to be jazz? I've never heard someone put his music in that category.
@@LaydiNite If Wikipedia is to be believed, then his music falls under jazz fusion with Latin American music and rock and roll. His musical style technically falls under jazz music but is probably much more distinct from traditional forms of jazz, which is probably why many might not consider him to be a jazz musician. If anything, Santana's style might be more similar to Kieth's style of jazz than Seb's style.
@@patriciomejia1114 Fair enough. I always thought of it as just Latin/Rock.
I did love the Starkid acting company reacting to it. They were so over it from the start. paraphrasing their remarks: "Oh after SIX years of trying she's ready to give up. Darling, we've been doing this for upwards of 10 years. If you love acting, it's not about being famous at it." "If she's getting callbacks, then she's not a failing or struggling actress. Callbacks are a form of success." and "Was I supposed to feel bad? Emma Stone's character got everything she wanted. Who cares if she's not with Gosling?"
Wait, THEY saw this movie? Damn, they must have been experts already 😂
Okay no joke, if the rest of La La Land was like the opening, I would have loved it so much more and would've called it one of my favorite movies of 2017.
It came out in 2016. Lol
@@andreasmeelie1889 In Italy it came out January 2017
Heck, i would even call it my favorite movie musical
Yeah, I couldn't get behind the white savior of All Jazz Music Ever, and even the trailers with their pasty white Los Angeles rubbed me the wrong way. Add into that the Hollywood-writing-about-Hollywood vibe (my main problem with...well, _every_ movie & show about Hollywood) and I just could not care less about this one.
"Hollywood-writing-about-Hollywood." Exactly right. How come struggling, nobody actress Mia gets invited to so many lavish pool parties?
Yess👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
i couldn't get over john legend's casting and how chazelle made A PIANIST socially distance from pianos
I remember after I said I didn't like this movie other people said I "didn't get it" and that "you just don't like musicals". I still have to wear glasses because of how hard I rolled my eyes.
Can I steal that
@@mezzeara5993 it's a TH-cam comment dude, its not like I can sue you or anything
SNL did a whole skit about that.
@@rogue7723 So did Seinfeld, only that one was about The English Patient.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this is a tad overrated.
What I don't get is why writers think characters like Sebastian make a good protagonist...well, no, I think I do, but confronting that is immensely depressing...
White saviour complex is oh so common
Now imagine the version of this movie where Sebastian was played by Miles Teller. You're welcome for the nightmares.
I find it interesting that John Legend was one of the producers of the movie, and yet he got stuck playing one of those "characters that are supposed to be wrong without actually DOING anything wrong." It's like the reverse of the Jacques Morali character (Steve Guttenberg) in Can't Stop the Music.
I have a theory that La La Land isn't a movie about following your dreams, but really just a bunch of A-listers saying "Isn't Hollywood great?"
Yep, the director even stated in an interview that it's intended as a "Love letter to Hollywood", so it's merely an excuse to praise the glamorous end of Tinsel Town, while downplaying the more seedy aspects of the entertainment industry. 😊
Don't most Hollywood movies about Hollywood have that same self-indulgence, though?
“It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”.
To me, it feels like the "I was Born in the Wrong Generation, I'm So Special" of movies. It's pretty obvious that the strong point of this movie is its style - It knows how to present a big fantasy dance number in the style of the classic Golden Age. But the main characters taint it with this snooty attitude that the old ways were the best and that nO oNe ApPrEcIaTeS aRt AnYmOrE. Seb is the big example of that, but I really rolled my eyes when Mia's big break, after dozens of auditions for roles beneath her talent for people who don't recognise her gift, comes in the form of a movie without a script, where the filmmakers are specifically looking for a new actress to showcase and entirely build their movie around. A movie being made in PARIS, no less!
Can't something be 2 things
I saw this in theaters and since then have STOOD by the fact that John Legend's character was the only one who was valid
John Legend and his character were both done dirty
Precisely, Keith comes off as far more likable than our ACTUAL male lead Sebastian, and he makes perfect sense when he points out that Jazz, much like everything else, evolves over time, and can't stay the same forever. 🎹🎶
Art is all about evolving. Otherwise it just becomes stagnant. Nothing wrong with keeping the classics around, but they can’t be the end-all, be-all.
Also, I love how the filmmakers staged it where everyone is enjoying the music except for Mia because “lol, people are sheep who can’t appreciate real art!” Did I say “love?” I meant “hate with the burning passion of a thousand suns.”
I agree, the main two were both insufferable asses and John Legend’s character was not only more likable, but also more talented and made a lot of good points. It pissed me off that the narrative made it look like he was wrong.
The sound mixing in this movie is awful. Every song needs subtitles.
In the same vein, all of the voices sounded exactly the same. There was no personality to them, particularly in the female voices
...I saw a pirated copy and assumed the sound was shit cause of that. But your comment and the clips in this review is making me wonder.
Apparently the Academy thought so too.
"LaLa Land" lost the sound mixing Oscar to "Hacksaw Ridge", somewhat surprising since musicals tend to do well in the category.
Yes that opening scene, although its my favorite I'm like what are they singing??
For me, one of the lowest bar in musicals was if I could remember any song from it after watching it for the first time, even if its the least popular song or
I don’t remember any song from this movie. I actually struggled remembering any number from this musical
Can we just acknowledge the wonderfully colorful costume design? The colors popped onscreen!
"What is it with aggravating leading men?" Um, Diva, does that mean that "The Greatest Showman" will be a future offender?
When the leads finally broke up, all I could think of was that Lucille Bluth gif. "Good for her."
Also, I find it ironic that the so-called "sellout" character is played by the best singer in the cast, & (strictly in my opinion) the best JC Superstar to date.
I’ll agree with everything except the JCS - Legend’s “Gethsemane (I Only Want to Say)” was a cringefest - he has nowhere near the vocal range for an operatic rock aria.
@@ShowtuneSampler he was AWFUL.
I’m more of a Ben Forster woman myself, but John Legend’s voice is ten million leagues ahead of Gosling and Stone
12:12 THANK-YOU! The greatest, most revolutionary artists (or artistic minds) of all time, were not the ones who spent all their days stuck in the past and digging in their heels, they were the ones who had one foot in the door to the past and the other in the one to the future!
Am I the only female in this universe who isn’t swooning over Ryan Gosling?
No, he's handsome enough, but I admit that he's not one of my types! 😉
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Well, clearly you're not, since The Diva gave zero fucks about Ryan Gosling's looks/performance and just went straight at Sebastian's characterization.
He’s not my type either, but hey, not everyone is everyone’s cup of tea, and I appreciate that.
I liked him in Young Hercules, but yeah he definitely plays a type that I just don't vibe with.
I understand your misgivings. From my perspective, the technically impressive eye candy and clear love of the genre was enough to overwrite that, to my mind, and I'd be lying if I said this film didn't make me tear up with nostalgia a few times. That said, I totally get why people aren't into this one, for reasons beyond being someone who just doesn't enjoy musicals. It's alright with me, though. I agree that John Legend's character is totally correct though, speaking as a jazz singer myself. One of the things we do at the clubs is what Postmodern Jukebox does: rearrange modern pop songs into more retro musucal styles that feel at home in the jazz club. No one argues that we're defacing jazz, whenever we do that, in my experience. We don't have that many Seb types, where I live.
There are parts of the movie that do work--Mia's anger and despair when she's ready to give up hit hard (because been there) and "Audition" is a strong theme statement for the movie. But there's some kind of reverse synergy going on where the whole ends up less than the sum.
@@MusicalHell I can see that. I know some people who have also "been there," and I definitely get more skeptical of Mia and Seb getting together with each rewatch. But, the good parts were enough for me to still really connect, even if it almost entirely comes down to the film's aesthetic, and the quality of the music as it was written and orchestrated. It was clear that Chazelle had a massive fondness for the 50s movie musical aesthetic, as did Justin Hurwitz for the shameless cheesiness of older film scores. Seeing it so authentically captured in a modern movie was a lot of fun in and of itself, for me, despite what I can at least agree is a rather weak character dynamic and story. I will at least wholeheartedly agree that Seb can sod off with his jazz attitude portrayed in the movie, speaking as someone who's actually a part of that community. As you said in this vid, there is so much more to jazz than the kind that makes him think jazz is "dying." It would be like people saying that rock music is dying, because there's basically no new rockabilly-type songs anymore, or that orchestral music is dying, because modern composers in that field are incorporating electronic music elements to them. Just because an older genre or subgenre of music is now niche, when it wasn't at an earlier time, doesn't mean it's dying. It just means that it has now found its core audience, and that audience is all it now needs. There are still Baroque music festivals even now which sometimes include original pieces serving as throwbacks to that era, and that style "died" over two and a half centuries ago.
@@moviemaestro800 I am actually now wondering what the movie would have been like if Keith and Seb had switched places. I think Keith would have made a more compelling male lead than Sebastian and would have probably gotten along with Mia a little better as well. I personally liked this movie as well, but I did feel myself rooting more for Mia than Sebastian. I didn't care for Sebastian much.
I read Postmodern Jukebox and I come running
@@winters_revolt Yeah, the more I think about it the more Seb feels tailor-made to fit the douchebag mould. That's a good trait for both a foil for Keith and a romantic false lead for Mia, which he technically *is* - but for some reason Chazelle looked at that character type and went 'hey, why don't we make him the hero and frame him as the endgame love interest until the last possible minute?' (and hey, it turns out there's a *reason* we don't do that...)
Fingers crossed that we get some Roasted Jellical Felines for the Special 100th episode.
Does Diva have a Sinfully Good Champagne to celebrate the Occasion?
It's gonna be a bloodbath and I'm here for it.
And I don't want to pressure her, I just want to make sure she knows "The American Mall" exists. She could have a field day roasting that thing.
I can't imagine her doing anything else for her 100th.
@@ChantelCarter-cc7cu I only really do because "The New You" is a weapons grade earworm I find myself singing to this very day... and would likely be a Saving Grace if I were the one doing it.
Ah, what a way to say “fuck off, 2020!!”, and “2021, please be better for the love of all that is wicked” than to finally visit the Jellical Ball from last year; if so I will be there in a heartbeat and have a glass of champagne to toast off the 100th case and to a new year!
(Though if she does do that movie, hopefully two of the Saving Graces are Francesca Hayward and the Skimbleshanks, The Railway Cat number since out of all the numbers that is best one; take out the visuals and just have the song and you can picture a better scene in your head)
@@ChantelCarter-cc7cu TH-cam, a catchy song, and bit of a crush on Autumn Reeser.
*Gets Popcorn* when this goes public I can't WAIT to see the comments, I wish you luck dear Diva
*if
@@venomw6823 No, he's right, it's when; that is if he's talking about the upcoming 100th review.
Actually i meant this video as i made this comment when it was an unlisted video, tho i am very excited to see the 100th MH Review as well
After that teaser at the end Im pretty sure people will forget their anger
Ideas of what it’ll be:
Oogieloves
Barney’s Great Adventure: The Movie
Something she doesn’t like the most
"What is it with Pasek and Paul and aggravating leading men?" YES. Add Evan Hansen to that list, please. (Sorry DEH fans, I can't get past the faking a deep relationship with someone who died by suicide to avoid difficult conversations with grieving family members for months concept).
THANK YOU. DEH has a decent sound (though not good enough to justify all those Tonys that should’ve gone to Great Comet, which I’ll die mad about lmao), but Evan himself plays into every one of those “people with anxiety or mental illnesses are manipulative jerks” stereotypes that were already ageing poorly a decade before the musical was written, haha.
Honestly, you’re right. I love the actors that play him, as well as his songs, but as a person, Evan just isn’t a character I like.
Likewise, Evan seems to be forgiven by everyone almost immediately after the whole ruse falls apart, especially by his ex girlfriend, whom he arguably lied to the most. 😒
But ... "hE wAs sUfFeriNg of MENThAL heALt IsuEss ThAiS!!!"
Tap tap tap on Evan Hansen for being a terrible person who do actually terrible things for selfish reasons. And Tap tap too to the producers of DEH for justifying it under the flag of "this is a story of a misunderstood caracter who deserves empathy" instead of take a route more mature, realistic and instrospective of the mater
@@trinaq I was so mad at the ending when I saw it (like we're just going to skip the character growth altogether and jump to a year later? Excuse me?) that to this day it's the only musical where I've left before the cast bows.
Let's get this straight:
1. The story is weak.
2. The characters are annoying.
3. The songs are meh.
4. John Legend is the only cast member who can actually sing.
So why was this movie such a big deal anyway?
1. Visually pleasing
2. Feel Good vibe
3. The Cast is all star
4. Damian Cazzelle.
Anyone else think that “Start a Fire” (aka the concert song) is the best song in the movie?
I even added it to my setlist for future jazz club shows.
I don’t mind that “City of Stars” won, but I’m still not happy at all with “Start a Fire” not even being nominated!
Yeah, of all the weird contrivances in this movie, the one I had the hardest time accepting was the idea that being keyboardist in a popular jazz-fusion band is such a terrible fate. (Also, the neon electro-keyboard is awesome and Seb's a fool if he can't appreciate it. ;->)
I grew an intense hate for this movie the moment they said jazz fusion wasn't "real jazz", like fuck off, John Legend's song was one of the best tracks, if not the best track.
@@FM-cp6kc Seb really would have been so much more redeemable if his time in the fusion band had broadened his musical horizons and got him to be less of an elitist.
Ryan Gosling sure loves to play insufferable protagonists La La Land and The Notebook. His characters sure are something.
What was wrong with Ryan's character in the Notebook?
@@DrawciaGleam02 MsMojo did a top 10 on why Noah from the Notebook is worst.
4:35: Idealistic dreamers can be great characters-a beacon of joy and hope in what could otherwise be a pointlessly depressing story-or they can be utter drags on the story (whether by being annoyingly chipper or annoyingly narcissistic). Are there any Idealistic characters who are just okay? I can't think of any, though almost by definition they'd be unmemorable.
I think one key way to avoid them being grating like Sebastian is to have them be very empathetic. When I think of all the idealistic dreamer characters I love, the common thing linking them all is their empathy towards others. Another thing that would've gone a long way is to have his core emotional struggle not be being the white savior of Jazz, but what do I know?
@@frauleinfunf The white savior thing is a much more specific problem. But yeah, genuine empathy is a big help.
@@timothymclean The biggest problem with Sebastian is his vision of his idealism.
A good idealistic dreamer would probably be like Orpheus from Hadestown, who dreams about fixing the seasons with song. People can get behind that.
Sebastian’s dream is literally just “Everyone else shut the fuck up. Only I play real jazz.”
I mean it’s telling that his dream is owning a Jazz club and not having a career as a Jazz musician. His goal isn’t creating jazz music that people love, it’s owning a space where he can control all of the music.
I appreciate your honesty. As a musical, it's ok. Not as miraculous as what movie critics claimed it to be.
Yeah. I rolled my eyes every time someone says how miraculous or something this movie is, because to me, that's the most pretentious and useless compliment you can give
Let's be real,this movie was Oscar-bait. It has all the tropes and all the cliches.
Oh, for sure. Nostalgia is a sure fire way to get to the old biddies who make the nominations
And it almost won...missed it by thatmuch....
@@artemisfowldragon It seems like the old bags that make the nominations always choose the most bland and trope ridden movies.
@@colleen4ever That was really funny ngl
@@colleen4ever Ah! The old "make an obvious Hollywood circle jerk film to win an award" trick. Second time I fell for it this week. Eh, would you believe Best Director? Would you believe Best lighting? How about Best Best Boy Grip? Too many Get Smart references? Sorry about that Chief.
I just started chanting "Cats, Cats, CATS, CATS" at the end of this. BRING IT ON!!!
She Already Did Cats Remember From That Cats Movie From Last Year
When I was in college, the film kids adored La La Land. As the creative media kid, we shared some classes. I was terrified to tell them I actually found it a bit disappointing. It’s a good film, but it missed the mark for me. Now I can say it openly 😂
Oof I hope the film kids learned more and grew past this film 😂
So 2021 will open with Diva's 100th episode...nice, I'm glad we have SOMETHING to look forward to in the New Year! 👍💖
I mean, kicking out Trump is also coming that month.
(I hope this comment doesn't age badly...)
@@timothymclean It DID!!!!
We're gonna be getting the vaccine next year!! It;s almost ready!
(providing ol Hiden and Queen K put the pedal to the medal!)
I have everything to look forward to in the New Year. Namely, getting out of 2020.
@@timothymclean One can only hope.
LA LA Land is odd because when it came out everyone loved it and I watched it and was disappointed because I didn't think it was as good as everyone said. It starts out strong but I feel it peters out. Certainly from a music point of view. However, as time has gone on more and more people seem to dislike it and claims it's elitist and racist (not unfair criticisms) and just generally isn't very good.
Yeah, I genuinely do not understand why it was so popular. Watching it was a real "Am I on crazy pills?!?" moment. I heard people talking about how tragic the romance in LLL was, or how they loved the characters, and I just can't even comprehend that. To me, the only debate is which of the protags sucks more.
@@jasonblalock4429 Ryan Gosling sucks more. Emma Stone's trying dammit, he's the snob.
I first watched it because it was an Oscar-winning musical. Of course, my musical-loving ass is gonna watch it. But while it is ok as a movie, it sucks as a musical because the songs aren’t sung very well, and they are all forgettable as fuck.
I remember watching the tap dancing scene and just being disappointed. Perhaps it's because I did tap, but I was expecting Fred and Ginger, and it was just OK.
the fact that that pasty duet won over How Far I'll Go and LMM didn't get his PEGOT has me mad
Yeah!
At least How Far I'll Go served the story and is actually a good song.
To be honest How Far I’ll Go is too similar to other Disney songs even if I liked it.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 your point? Sure, Disney has a certain style, but come on! The song has so much energy, so powerful in just... jaiehr gurggskrhvbb
@@sarasamaletdin4574 How Far I’ll Go is an I-want song, which I’m sure every single musical has
Think My Shot from Hamilton
Honestly, the biggest annoyance for the movie ending for me is the idea that Mia had to have a kid within the five year gap; I mean, she's a budding movie actress. Getting married in that time frame is one thing, but having a child that she presumably gave birth to? Hollywood is notoriously awful towards pregnant actresses, even A-List actresses often have to take time-off for lack of parts available to them. So the idea that she would have the career, the husband, AND the baby within five years is just peak Hollywood denial of reality to me.
It could be her step-child though
Wait ... the male lead is a pretentious hipster? Already in pain 😞
When she said "bring out the big pitchfork" I almost screamed. I so hope the next movie is Cats
MEOW!
Some people: "I LOVE THIS MOVIE!"
Other people: "I HATE THIS MOVIE!"
Me: Eh, I have mixed feelings.
9:03 I wonder if I say "I don't like slow jazz," Seb would burst into flames.
8:19 Well, there's another reason to hate Seb - he's totally ripping off the Warner siblings' shtick.
that jazz fusion stuff sounds so good, idk why sebastian is whining about it
Diva... the feline elephant is still in the room.
I would call that thing a monstrosity, but then again, so is the movie itself.
@@patriciomejia1114 but what if it’s a cat the size of an elephant
Yeah, I can see why Moonlight won that year’s Oscar for best film.
I grew an intense hate for this movie the moment they said jazz fusion wasn't "real jazz", like fuck off, John Legend's song was one of the best tracks, if not *the* best track.
La La Land stole its plot from "New York, New York". I'm surprised this doesn't get noticed more often. The difference is LLL cast actors who couldn't carry the material as characters who had no chemistry. NYNY makes a grand tragedy out of almost the same material and is 1000x the movie, testament to the power of casting.
Alltought that film was directed by the guy who made films that ( intentional or not ) glorify/glamorazie orginazied crime and gangsters despite showing the characters as deplorable but still end up being sentimental over them.
And he said superhero films aren't "cinema" ( Wich is like saying jazz isn't music )
Both Chazzele and Scorsese have a similar and inconsistent direction.
Whereas Goodfellas felt overly sentimental, Casino was a lot harder.
Likewise, in Chazzele's case, Whiplash was brutal while La La Land is sentimental.
@@steamboatwill3.367 Well OK, but New York New York isn’t a violent gangster movie
underrated scorsese!!!
Thank you! Finally someone else pointed this out! I noticed this the first time I heard about "La La Land", and is why I refused to see it!
@@steamboatwill3.367 This info is barley relevant lol.
Oh, TEASE US, why don't ya?!
I still think #100 will be CATS (2019)
Yes, I'm almost CERTAIN that "Cats" will be the 100th case! 😻
I'm not sure what else it could be at this point... except maybe Descendants 3, and even that pales in comparison to... THAT.
Perhaps High School Musical?
Honestly, I know I’m going to be in the minority on this one, but I REALLY want it to be The Devil’s Carnival. I mean, really, can you think of a better 100th case than an actual hell-centered musical brought to us by the same people responsible for Repo! The Genetic Opera?
@@hailiemackay16 She already did that with DJ Soundbite
Sebastian is basically a male version of Brie Larson's character from The Unicorn Store.
@@tsarmikislav938 Sam Wright.
Nah, Brie Larson's character from Unicorn Store actually realized the world didn't revolve around her, and that she needed to grow and work on herself and find happiness outside of her whole 'ART' thing.
@@colleen4ever yeah that guy
Sebastian is the worst kind of artiste protagonists. White, privileged dude who can just tank or quit jobs, because he has a perfectly fine life that won't be effected negatively by doing so. His only true conflict is others not understanding how great of an artist he is.
The main character in Moulin Rouge is SO MUCH WORSE.
@@thecinematicmind Moulin Rouge is at least fantastical romantic nonsense. La la Land is relatively grounded. And Sebastian is like too many real life guys in LA that stumble into success and still whinge about how no one truly understands art but them.
I just realised this movie is like a reverse Rock of Ages (The stage version, not the movie version.) Instead of the main couple realising that their dreams are an idealistic fantasy, that the industry bullshit they have to go through isn't worth it and that their relationship is, this couple go through the whole expectations meet the real-world career disappointment, but then actually end up getting exactly what they always wanted and break up.
1. “Fools Who Dream” should’ve won the Oscar. It’s the entire thesis of the film
2. IS CATS NEXT??
As a fan of this film, your viewpoint I completely understood.
The critique was fair, your points were clear and the way you put up points with your critique was valid.
I love this movie a lot but I love this review you did.
And you better trash Cats a HUGE BLACK HOLE TYPE punishment for your 100th review, that would be glorious.
When you get here before the hate comments swarm in but now you can’t see how juicy they are: “The only thing about being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness”
I found myself singing City of stars after I first heard it. But it is difficult to listen to because Ryan Gosling is not a good singer.
I enjoyed seeing you rip this movie a new one. I will never forget how Moonlight showed then at the Oscars. An inde movie winning against a high produced Hollywood movie that celebrate Hollywood.
It seems weird that Emma Stone and Ryan Gosling have no chemistry here. They were adorable together in "Crazy Stupid Love". It must be the writing and direction.
*sees notification*
Count Dooku: "I've been looking forward to this."
Gotta say the same. I was excited when this popped up
Glad to see a review that highlights how Start a Fire is too much of a bop and John Legend is way too talented for Sebastian's "plight" about playing pop music to be remotely empathetic
I find this musical rather boring, but I have the piano music for it and I rather like playing it, so conflicting feelings xD
Yeah. When I first saw this movie, I thought it was really boring. I just couldn't wait until the movie ended bc there was nothing going on that made me want to continue watching it.
So, you like the music, but you don't like the musical?
@@patriciomejia1114 yeah I dont understand it either 😂
@@lorzl1287 To be fair, musicals have two parts: the music, and the story. You seem to like the music, but you don't like the story very much, which I understand completely, so don't worry.
@@patriciomejia1114 very true :)
Diva opening her review with a Saving Grace...we really ARE infringing upon dangerous territory. 😆
Edit: Only 6 total sins...not bad tbh. 😌
I would have sinned it for the nearly half-an-hour it spends NOT being a musical, while Seb and Mia wallow in the melodrama of it all. I found the whole going-home sequence to be absolutely interminable.
@@jasonblalock4429 I agree. Looking back, it's like the movie seemed to momentarily forget itself during that time.
Crazy how there's almost 100 sessions of the court of Musical Hell!
You really verbalised all my issues with this film and I thank you for it! I had to study it in film studies and I felt awkward for hating it because the vocal people loved it! The ending is the worst bit - it should have ended before the 5 years later section. Would have been a more powerful ending because as you said, it wasn’t earned. It felt like it was shoehorned in.
There is a version of this movie that could work. And I know the word is abused a lot by directors today, but this movie could have worked fantastically as a subversion of the typical musical narrative.
Something I considered when listening to Another Day of Sun (which I do still hold is a fantastic song in its own right) and considering the subtext is that several of the main singers talk about Hollywood as it is in movies and TV, as this place where a hardworking dropout with a dream can still become a major player in the shuffle. And there was something about that blatant devotion to that ideal (plus the subtext of the black and white colorvision logo morphing into color) that made me think the movie would twist the theme.
Maybe Mia wouldn’t become a famous actor and wouldn’t have accomplished her dream, but still finds happiness in the fact that she tried despite the naysaying of her folks at home, and maybe still finds love with someone who’s not Seb. Maybe Sebastian realized John Legend was right and that his devotion to the old ways of jazz were exactly the reason people don’t connect with it, and maybe he either drops the dream or does come around to Legends way of thinking.
But the fact that the movie does play everything so straight is just so infuriating. It hurts even more considering the last work of the director was Whiplash, a movie that was equally subversive and had far better characters and a lot of possible nuance to how everyone was. I guess they just wanted to shoot for Oscars though...
[Sipping my vindication juice with a smirk on my face, because I have always hated this movie.]
The only thing I really think is good about it is Anti-Depressants are So Not A Big Deal existing as a result and therefore winning the Best Original Song Emmy (RIP, Adam Schlesinger). Though I do agree with the entirety of the sins you lined out, I think Mia is just as annoying as a character as Sebastian, albeit for different, more metatextual reasons. It's a role so obviously tailored to tug at the heartstrings of Academy voters and make them remember when they were the young struggling starlet with big dreams, and it WORKED. >_
This is such a mood-I was inspired to watch La La Land because of how much I love Anti-Depressants are So Not A Big Deal, and it was such a letdown! No one in the movie aside from John Legend was as good a singer as Michael Hyatt, and CxG handled its flawed protags so, so much better than La La Land handled Sebastian.
Also, very much agree...Mia's honestly very shallow compared to Sebastian, and it feels almost insidious how she was tailor made to have a certain appeal, and no character outside of that.
13:02 - And I'm bitter that "Shiny" wasn't even in the conversation
I found that song to be annoying and pointless, sry...
OK, I can't be the only one who zipped straight to the ending to see if the "Up Next" was going to be what we all think it's going to be.
Ditto, it couldn't be ANYTHING other than "Cats" at this rate! 😹
@@trinaq Especially with the way she hinted at it.
@@Eviltwin531 Man, we have to wait a whole MONTH now to see?!?!
Sometimes I do
If she could get it done by the 18th, that would be its 1-year anniversary.
I took my parents to watch this for their anniversary... all three of us hated it. Me, my mum and dad hated Sebastian and his white saviour bullshit. Like, there was nothing to like about him and I was just sitting therw waiting for Mia to dump his sorry behind!
Finally! Someone else who doesn't like "La La Land!" I HATED this film when it came out. Still do. But it felt stiff, formulaic, and bland.
It was and always will be oscar bait. It was made purely for the award shows
I ... have an issue with musicals where the lead characters aren't really good singers. My gosh I can sing as well as she can, and I'm your bargain-basement-variety choir alto.
@@57Strudel don't worry. I can't sing either.
One quick trivia bit I was just reminded of: This film was possibly responsible for saving the historic "Angels Flight" funicular railway in L.A. A nearly identical replica of the 1901 original, which was sadly lost to development in 1969, the current version was built in 1996 using some of the original parts including both the original passenger cars. However, the ride had been shut down since an accident in 2013 and its future was in doubt. However, as it was a symbol of classic Hollywood, the ride featured prominently in one of La La Land's musical sequences, which has been credited with reminding audiences of its existence and historical prominence. Possibly as a result, the ride was restored to operation a year after the film in 2017 and today continued to transport passengers up and down Bunker Hill.
You know even just seeing a clip of that scene I am so with you on Sebastian. He’s one of those music gatekeepers that drives away people from the genre they so claim to love with their elitism and arrogance. Ugh I’m happy they didn’t get together either he’d make anyone miserable.
The suspense is killing me! Not letting us know what is the 100th episode? I'm still hoping it's a certain 2019 movie musical involving a four legged creature.
I only made it 10 minutes in. and that was enough!
MEOW!
As an aside, you know what continues to grind my gears about La La Land? That its inexplicable mega-success buried the Coen Bros' "Hail Caesar!" which is a better starry-eyed tribute to classic Hollywood in just about every possible way.
(Although I'm not sure why Hail Caesar was released so early in the year, which admittedly didn't help. *But still.* )
"Hal, it's about cats."
Honestly, the only song in the Soundtrack I ACTUALLY liked was A Lovely Night. Out of Context of the movie, it sounds like two character that have great chemistry. It's perfectly written for the ranges of our two singers (seems to be the only song that did that-) and it's amazing to me that a song that's so romantic and makes me want to see two people together- IS IN A MOVIE WHERE I /DONT'/ WANT THE TWO LEADS TO GET TOGETHER. What? Did they hire great writers for that ONE SONG?!
Edit: Crazy excited to see what number 100 will be! Fingers crossed for the Devil's Carnival.
Thank you, everyone look at me weird when I say I don't like La La Land.
I felt the exact same way about this movie. I really wanted to like it, but it just fell flat for me. And I completely agree that The Fools Who Dream is the best song in La La Land.
1:09 as someone who’s parents deal with traffic in California that this does indeed happen.....it drives most of us mad.
Maybe you guys should get out and start an improptu song and dance. It'll keep everyone entertained if nothing else.
@@colleen4ever I’m saying that what happens....sure, it’s fun the first time, but doing it again and again and again? Truly is a horror.
I think I traveled back in time to make sure Moonlight won the oscar instead of La-la land.
Watching this, something dawned on me. Sebastian as a character is a younger version of Mr. Fletcher from Whiplash. That scene in the jazz club and his whole demeanor toward jazz feels like the "there are no two words more harmful than "Good Job"" speech from Whiplash. The difference is, while Whiplash recognizes the toxicity of that character and that line of thinking (even though the film ultimately subscribes to the fact that there's some merit to it), Sebastian is played up as the hero, so his worldview is never questioned or explored in any meaningful beyond it being his dream, and I feel that's where Damien Chazelle as a writer failed Sebastian. I feel like he ascribed to this character his own passion for jazz, and while he explored the toxicity of it in Whiplash, La La Land is, by design, a more shallow movie, so it can't really explore that.
Still and all, I think there are worst people out there than Sebastian. I feel La La Land is ultimately about that person in your life that you were never meant to spend the rest of your life with, but who was crucial to a specific part of your journey, and while you may at times wonder what life with this person would be like if you were meant to spend the rest of your life with them, in the end, what was meant to happen happened. That's how I read the ending anyway. Sebastian is constantly pushing Mia, even when she's giving up, and that was exactly what she needed at that particular point (and yes, Sebastian wasn't always the best person while doing it, but he pushed her to write her one-woman show and then picked her up to take her to the audition).
I do agree Sebastian is flawed and I definitely think the movie would have been better if it questioned his worldview more, but I've met people who are way worst. Also, Ryan Gosling and Emma Stone have amazing on-screen chemistry, even I agree these two people were ultimately wrong for each other. Watch Crazy Stupid Love for another example of just how radiant their chemistry (thenagain, these are two actors who usually have great chemistry with their co-stars).
That said, I do agree the movie is never as good as Another Day of Sun (maybe the scene in the planetarium), Ryan and Emma can't sing and yes, How Far I'll Go and Audition are both way better songs than City of Stars (or maybe it's just that City of Stars never feels like a complete song).
Gotta love people already disliking this video before they even have the chance to watch it 😂
Or commenting on it. 😆
THIS was the big musical Hollywood big wigs went bananas over? Tenacious D's film is miles better due to:
A more developed relationship between the leads
Better musical numbers
And an ending that was truly earned.
Can't wait for episode 100! Been a fan since the beginning and I hope to be for another 100!!!!!
If the devil appeared in La La Land and challenged the two leads to sing the best song in the world, the movie would greatly improve.
@@chinniepie Can't disagree with that.
Everything about this movie puts a bad taste in my mouth. I can't find it in me to give a shit about the characters or their struggles, the music is dull in my opinion, and there are already way too many movies about how noble and tragic show business is. (Also: City of Stars is a godawful song!)
I think the most memorable thing about this movie was the Oscars mixup.
I'm surprised she didn;t play that clip!
To be honest I didn't enjoy La La Land for the characters, I liked it for the nice music and pretty cinematography.
If Musical Hell #100 isn't either Cats 2019 or decedents 3 I'll eat a baseball cap.
Me: I’m guessing it’s her final episode
My Fennekin: Don’t get us wrong We don’t want you to stop Diva you try very hard & succeed many times mostly all the guest star appearances
My Pikachu: Look Diva we all support you but we’re all starting get worried about you
My Piplup: you been on TH-cam too long
My Eevee: your cool but we’re worried about we’re you’ll end after your 100 episode
My pachirisu: you review almost every bad musical out there even Leadens of Oz you even scared Animat & Were wondering how you’ll turn out after that well you still be around or will it be best for you to move on from TH-cam now we’re really consider
My popplio: and I’m wondering how you’ll do in hell for much longer
My pikachu: you must figure out your future
Me: & decided if you want to remain in hell or not
My Fennekin: and we hope your future will be great
My popplio: but no matter what you’ll legacy Will be remembered for a very long time
@@Avatar.and.PokemonFan2002 Diva hasn't even got to the likes of South Pacific (1958), Tommy (1975), Lisztomania (1975), New York New York (1977), One From The Heart (1982), Pink Floyd The Wall (1982), Absolute Beginners (1986), Everyone Says I Love You (1996), Evita (1996), Joe's Apartment (1996), The Producers (2005) and Fame (2009). Plenty to choose from. 😃
@@stuartkenny7430 Oh, that's not all. There's an entire dumpster fire of musical media that Diva hasn't covered. Can't believe you haven't mentioned "Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure" [2012], "Star!" [1968], "Hello Dolly" [1969], "Blues Brothers 2000" [1999], "Give My Regards To Broad Street" [1984], "Duets" [2000], "Staying Alive" [1983], "Cool As Ice" [1991], "Marci X" [2003], or "Raise Your Voice [2004]", and countless others I'm sure I've forgotten about. Some of which I'm not sure I'd ever heard of in my life, like "Song One" [2014], "Roller Boogie" [1979], "Thank God It's Friday" [1978], "The Blue Bird" [1976], "Body Rock" [1984], "Bratz" [2007], The Step Up Franchise, "Standing Ovation" [2010], or even THE ENTIRE ELVIS PRESLEY MUSICAL FILM CATALOGUE!
Damn! Were almost at 100! You truly have came along way! :D
Hey Diva, next year you should review Babes In Toyland. It's a musical, it's considered a Christmas movie and it has plenty of sins.
So this is just Rent but with jazz
OkamiBattleBlock My theory is that Sebastian is Mark and Maureen's kid.
@@jenneacubero1036 plz no! The art world cant take that much entitlement! Besides Mark would be like "I cant make my bad film with a kid!" and give him Seb to an Orphanage
I mean, be fair, at least both characters are willing to work and pay rent.
THANK YOU! I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't like "La La Land". I was also looking forward to the movie when I saw the trailers. You can imagine my disappointment when the film turned out to be nothing like it was advertised. All the best scenes in the trailers came from the fantasy epilogue.
I think a big flaw of the movie is the white A-list actors... for me it trully feels forced that these beautiful well known actors seem to be struggling in Hollywood. I know they are actors and that’s their jobs, but it really throws me off every time I watch it. I think there is definitely some problems with the structure of the movie, but unknown actors of color would, in my opinion, improve the movie way more, and also be more authentic for the overall message of the movie in the process. Anyways, great video girl👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
For all the hype this movie got on release and its Oscar nominations, I was always suspicious of it for having no clear idea of what it was all about from the trailers and reviews; everybody praised the hell out of its cinematography and acting (in broad strokes), but clammed up when it came to anything specific regarding the plot. I couldn't even tell what time period it was meant to be in or the level of reality we were dealing with; best I could guess was a Chicago-style modern reality with 40's-50's Golden Age fantasy elements. As a result, as much as I'm generally a fan of movie musicals, I just could not find any interest for this one.
After this review, it sounds like I dodged a bullet. Setting aside the utter lack of chemistry between the two leads, the shallow moralizing about "selling out" versus "passion for your art", which is even more shallowly executed, all of which would be fatal blows to any film in their own right, there's one aspect that especially bothers me thanks to this review: The idea of the main character being "the savior of Jazz". Um, no, he's not, because jazz doesn't need saving. Jazz as a musical genre is more alive and well now than it ever has been in its past hundred years of existing as a musical genre! While it may not be at the top of pop charts now, it is still being invoked by such big names as Mehgan Trainor, Taylor Swift, even John Legend who is in this film! Go to any city in America and you will find at least one local jazz ensemble performing live every night (in areas not shut down because of the COVID Death Plague, of course). They may not always be conventional takes on the genre, but as Diva herself points out there are so many subschools of jazz as to render any claims about what is or isn't "conventional" practically moot.
Let me put it this way; Four Words: 8. Bit. Big. Band. You have a full scale orchestra ranging in size from 25 to 65 members getting together purely to perform jazz renditions of video game music! And you're trying to tell me with a straight face that capital J "Jazz" is dying and in need of saving?! Fuck off!
P.S. Kieth's comment about "How are you so stuck in the past? Jazz is about the future," is just as right as it is wrong. Yes, some genres of jazz do lean more toward a progressive sound, but there are other subgenres that center around preserving and progressing the styles of the past; his synthesized postmodern take is no less valid than a classic big band swing group. Particularly as a historian with a personal penchant for music, this line rubs me the wrong way. You don't have to be stuck in the past, but you also don't have to use holding onto the past as a reason someone is in the wrong. You want an example of how past and future forms of jazz can exist together at the same time? Try some Caravan Palace or Caro Emerald for examples of a little thing called "electro-swing", and then tell me how jazz is "about the future" in such absolute tones.
Thank you - I love electro swing and big band and blues and all the other delightful little side jaunts the genre has had and so the weird plot point of "lets save and argue over Jazz" was where I started yelling at the TV. After stopped rolling my eyes at the White Savior bit.
Also the scene where he forcibly drags her to a jazz club to explain to her that her experiences with jazz music is Wrong and she should feel Bad was awful. She clearly is talking about smooth jazz which IS more or less background noise compared to whatever the goddamn hell he's hung up on. How is this supposed to be a romantic lead? Mansplaining someones experience isn't sexy.
@@lissaquon607 Right?! And that's not even touching on international jazz; the German vocal quintets of the Weimar Period like the Comedian Harmonists, or modern Japanese jazz-Jpop fusion. And what about Chaphop, rap lyrics with a pseudo-Victorian bent? Jazz can even infect other musical genres, even ones as diverse as Celtic or Klezmer! So tell me again how your pompous keyboard piddling is representing all Jazz?
I remember seeing this in theaters and liking it, but feeling like something was...missing somehow? Like it was ok, but it could have been so much better. I think Diva really summed it up. If they had made the banter between Seb and Mia more flirty and teasing and less mean-spirited and confrontational made Seb more likeable and less pretentious (or at least called him out on his pretentious behavior), I would have liked it way better.
If the main actors could sing, I’ve would’ve at least tolerated this movie.
My birthday is in three days.
Thanks, Diva for the early present!
Happy early birthday!
@@quantummelody2959 Thanks!
Wishing you a Wonderful Birthday in advance! 🎂🎊🎁♥️
@@trinaq Thank You!
While I still adore the sountrack to this movie, watching it again really brings out the flaws I overlooked the first time I saw it
5:19 And what’s worse, they directly stole it from GLEE, so that’s how lame it is.
You know you're lame when even Glee did something first?
I’m not gonna be surprised if the next review is Cats. Congrats on 100 episodes!
I was already upset when one of the songs from this movie won the oscar over Moana. Then I actually HEARD the song, and now I'm even more pissed off.
I will give this movie the saving grace that they did not give this couple a happy ending. There are too many movies that fabricate a happy ending to a couple that should never be together in the first place.