You know Brooks powers include the chills of the underworld…. We’re in a place called the underworld that’s covered in snow IM JUST SAYING THATS AN AWFUL BIG COINCIDENCE!!!
Loki almost feels like a doflamingo type of character and I luv it. Robin getting her OG hairstyle was a nice surprise and i'm looking forward to her reunion with Saul, hope he's OK. Overall great chapter, loved how immediately luffy went snakeman when loki insulted shanks and I'm dying to see his DF ability. He's gotta be Hella powerful if he's THAT chained up.
lol I'm not taking any credit for that, if I ever hear a single line of dialogue that could hint at the underworld (in any series) I'm going to jump on it :)
Thank you for bringing up the people claiming Luffy's reaction to Loki insulting Shanks is inconsistent character writing. It's been driving me mad seeing people misremember the principle and then use it to bash the writing.
Luffy did briefly get mad at Garp for insulting Shanks during their reunion in Water 7. Then he remembered who he was talking back to and what he is capable of.
I think Loki has ate the Mythical Leshy Zoan - a Leshy is a mythic giant from Slavic folklore that is part plant with a booming voice and is able to tame animals & in art of this mythical creature often wears a deer skull.
A Painter is a type of rope, used to suspend things, usually in dinghies. It's probably a thing you attach to something and it raises things from the Underworld to the middle level where people live.
makes sense, I should have recognized painter as a rope I'm from a fishing community so everyone got a dinghy/dory lol it was the use of sunstones not working when its snowing that was throwing me off
What if Loki ends up being freed by Kid who wants him to take down the Red Hair pirates?? Maybe Loki becomes an ally of Blackbeard, which could also potentially lead to him getting the final road poneglyph too, if it is indeed on Elbaf, like we suspect.
These two were without spoilers were pure torture but Oda's back with the peak once again Damn Loki bounty is crazy it's bigger than Zoro and Sanji combined. (He was imprisoned 6 years ago, Shanks became a Yonkou 6 years ago as well is there any correlation there 👀👀 or maybe Shanks was the person who helped them subdue Loki) Robin with the bangs back is a big W We already got a fake out death with Saul before how much torture does Robin need
Ok I concede that you may have been right that we got an "Underworld", but given what it's currently implying is that this area (theoretically the Base of the tree) would be considered "The Underworld" or "The First World" depending on translation. Imo we had a more mythical/hellish Underworld setting in Impel Down. Not just that, but if the more canonical mythology version of the Underworld is to exist here, which Brook's story of going there and returning seems true, it isn't somewhere that anyone besides theoretically the Revived Human can return from. If anyone on the crew goes there it might be in a sacrificial capacity which I'm reluctant to think any would need to take it that far unless we're already in the final fight. It's more likely that this "Underworld" is going to be Elbaph's version of a punishment akin to hell, same as Impel Down, same as Udon, same as "Insert any place where they say oooooo this place is like HELL!". Also we learned from Vegapunk that the Gum Gum fruit doesn't exist. It was a made up fruit to cover up the Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika. I love impassioned theory crafting as long as it makes narrative sense and doesn't need a bunch of one time special circumstances just to make the narrative happen. 11:40 you admit to ignoring the logic because of XYZ but in order for XYZ to happen, then the whole premise of Brook's fruit is kinda moot, null, and void while also salving a ton of the pain attached to death. I think you might just need a Viking anime lol
Would be funny if Loki ate a devil fruit everyone thought was the Nika fruit only to be a real Gomu Gomu fruit, so thats why he thinks he's the Sun God now.
Loki is shaping up to be more of a rival and less of an antagonist/friend imo. He's not able to pull Luffy into his own pace but also not letting himself dragged into Luffy's pace either, it's a fun dynamic. 8:48 One thing that I feel doesn't get talked about enough is that YES Luffy is fine with people trashing on him while he always fights to protect his friends, but in the Bellamy scene he asked Zoro to take the trashing alongside him. What this tells me is that even back then Luffy saw Zoro as an extension of himself instead of a friend he needed to protect, and thus trusted and expected Zoro to behave as Luffy himself would, which of course Zoro has no problem doing. People mostly talk about Luffy and Shanks' principles in that scene, but I always thought Zoro's loyalty and Luffy's trust in each other was such an underrated aspect, that also led naturally to the Thriller Bark scene where Zoro LITERALLY took on Luffy's pain as his own. Anyways I'm calling it now the jewel tree Adam is gonna be at least partially chopped down by the end of this arc. I don't know how it's going to happen but I can feel it in my bones
Stansen the giant with Hajrudin is the slave from Sabaody who was talking with Rayleigh. What if the special bounty is because Loki put the money up himself and paid the WG to put a big bounty on him, or raised it way up, so he could feel like he is a big deal. 😂
Well in a way Saul was really believed to be dead and now Robin is getting to see him, probably for the very last time. So there is you metaphorical underworld reunion.
I think Prince Loki got a special bounty assigned to him because he evaded capture at the God Valley Tournament and was one of those rare rabbits for the hunt
i wonder if in some way or extent Loki agreed/chose to be chained, or even if Loki is not fully chained. when Loki asked Luffy what Luffy made of the situation Luffy answered without making judgements, only describing the appearance, that Loki is chained up. Then Loki says no man chooses to be chained, providing the idea that Loki was forcibly chained. Luffy doesnt respond to this idea, just the length of time Loki’s been chained, and at least is hesitant after Loki’s deal is presented. Likely Luffy says hmm to Loki’s offer of wiping our another pirate crew, but also Luffy has encountered situations where someone consented to being being chained up (like Zoro for example, in Romance Dawn), and so partly may be reacting to Loki’s implication that Loki was chained forcibly. its also possible that Luffy’s matter of fact statement of the appearance of the situation, and Loki’s follow up, could be Oda playing the reverse game Oda played at the beginning of the arc when the crew on Elbaf thought they were free but were actually imprisoned.
Here's a little tinfoil/cope theory for the next chapter: You know how Robin cut her hair to match her style like it was when she and Saul first met? Well, if you look at chapter 392, Saul's introduction, you'd see that in Robin's first encounter with Saul he had just washed up on the shore, face first on the ground, full of bandages and looking very dead. Do you see what I'm hinting at? Saul could've laid down to recreate that first meeting, and to try to scare Robin, something he failed to do despite screaming right in her face. This would symbolize that Robin now has reasons to ve scared of things, something she lacked as a child from her sad backstory.
Hajrudin is interesting me on what his part is to play in this story. Robin og hair looks, but im questioning the community cause all of a sudden they just started shiting on the ts robin like its the worse thing in the world, and oda was wrong to do it. The ageda piece and nostalgia have rotted the community
Norse mythology has a god of the dead, Hel. She resides over an underworld-like realm. Google says In some accounts it was the last of nine worlds… I don’t really care because I’ve been says since pre-long ring long land (not sure when I started) that I want them to go to the underworld. And when elbaf started I said I’d need them to combine Norse and Greek mythology so I can get them sailing the river Styx It’s mostly a running joke at this point but I still want them to go to the underworld :)
You know Brooks powers include the chills of the underworld…. We’re in a place called the underworld that’s covered in snow
IM JUST SAYING THATS AN AWFUL BIG COINCIDENCE!!!
Loki almost feels like a doflamingo type of character and I luv it. Robin getting her OG hairstyle was a nice surprise and i'm looking forward to her reunion with Saul, hope he's OK. Overall great chapter, loved how immediately luffy went snakeman when loki insulted shanks and I'm dying to see his DF ability. He's gotta be Hella powerful if he's THAT chained up.
lmaoo this chapter was made for you reading the title i immediately thought how happy that would make you 😹😹💗
I was jumping up and down in the break room at work! I was so happy :)
The fact that you somewhat predicted this underworld shit months ago is INSANE!
lol I'm not taking any credit for that, if I ever hear a single line of dialogue that could hint at the underworld (in any series) I'm going to jump on it :)
Thank you for bringing up the people claiming Luffy's reaction to Loki insulting Shanks is inconsistent character writing. It's been driving me mad seeing people misremember the principle and then use it to bash the writing.
Luffy did briefly get mad at Garp for insulting Shanks during their reunion in Water 7. Then he remembered who he was talking back to and what he is capable of.
I think Loki has ate the Mythical Leshy Zoan - a Leshy is a mythic giant from Slavic folklore that is part plant with a booming voice and is able to tame animals & in art of this mythical creature often wears a deer skull.
One of the best chapter ever also one piece manga wont be back until December 1st because oda had an emergency regarding his health
I hope he’s okay and just needs a break
A Painter is a type of rope, used to suspend things, usually in dinghies.
It's probably a thing you attach to something and it raises things from the Underworld to the middle level where people live.
makes sense, I should have recognized painter as a rope I'm from a fishing community so everyone got a dinghy/dory lol
it was the use of sunstones not working when its snowing that was throwing me off
@@booksandtropessunstone may also refer to a compass that was used by the vikings
What if Loki ends up being freed by Kid who wants him to take down the Red Hair pirates??
Maybe Loki becomes an ally of Blackbeard, which could also potentially lead to him getting the final road poneglyph too, if it is indeed on Elbaf, like we suspect.
Great video! Love the energy and appreciate the lore reminder of what was happening 6 years ago. Take this sub! (And that’s not the sandwich lol)
These two were without spoilers were pure torture but Oda's back with the peak once again
Damn Loki bounty is crazy it's bigger than Zoro and Sanji combined. (He was imprisoned 6 years ago, Shanks became a Yonkou 6 years ago as well is there any correlation there 👀👀 or maybe Shanks was the person who helped them subdue Loki)
Robin with the bangs back is a big W
We already got a fake out death with Saul before how much torture does Robin need
its female tekking101 and I love it.
Ok I concede that you may have been right that we got an "Underworld", but given what it's currently implying is that this area (theoretically the Base of the tree) would be considered "The Underworld" or "The First World" depending on translation. Imo we had a more mythical/hellish Underworld setting in Impel Down. Not just that, but if the more canonical mythology version of the Underworld is to exist here, which Brook's story of going there and returning seems true, it isn't somewhere that anyone besides theoretically the Revived Human can return from. If anyone on the crew goes there it might be in a sacrificial capacity which I'm reluctant to think any would need to take it that far unless we're already in the final fight. It's more likely that this "Underworld" is going to be Elbaph's version of a punishment akin to hell, same as Impel Down, same as Udon, same as "Insert any place where they say oooooo this place is like HELL!".
Also we learned from Vegapunk that the Gum Gum fruit doesn't exist. It was a made up fruit to cover up the Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika. I love impassioned theory crafting as long as it makes narrative sense and doesn't need a bunch of one time special circumstances just to make the narrative happen. 11:40 you admit to ignoring the logic because of XYZ but in order for XYZ to happen, then the whole premise of Brook's fruit is kinda moot, null, and void while also salving a ton of the pain attached to death. I think you might just need a Viking anime lol
FINALLY I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!
Would be funny if Loki ate a devil fruit everyone thought was the Nika fruit only to be a real Gomu Gomu fruit, so thats why he thinks he's the Sun God now.
It be fantastic! And I want it :)
Loki is shaping up to be more of a rival and less of an antagonist/friend imo.
He's not able to pull Luffy into his own pace but also not letting himself dragged into Luffy's pace either, it's a fun dynamic.
8:48 One thing that I feel doesn't get talked about enough is that YES Luffy is fine with people trashing on him while he always fights to protect his friends, but in the Bellamy scene he asked Zoro to take the trashing alongside him. What this tells me is that even back then Luffy saw Zoro as an extension of himself instead of a friend he needed to protect, and thus trusted and expected Zoro to behave as Luffy himself would, which of course Zoro has no problem doing. People mostly talk about Luffy and Shanks' principles in that scene, but I always thought Zoro's loyalty and Luffy's trust in each other was such an underrated aspect, that also led naturally to the Thriller Bark scene where Zoro LITERALLY took on Luffy's pain as his own.
Anyways I'm calling it now the jewel tree Adam is gonna be at least partially chopped down by the end of this arc. I don't know how it's going to happen but I can feel it in my bones
He’s like ussop I think
Stansen the giant with Hajrudin is the slave from Sabaody who was talking with Rayleigh.
What if the special bounty is because Loki put the money up himself and paid the WG to put a big bounty on him, or raised it way up, so he could feel like he is a big deal. 😂
Well in a way Saul was really believed to be dead and now Robin is getting to see him, probably for the very last time. So there is you metaphorical underworld reunion.
i knew youd be Happy
You gotta get bangs to match Robin now. Fun video of cutting your bangs😂😂.
I think Prince Loki got a special bounty assigned to him because he evaded capture at the God Valley Tournament and was one of those rare rabbits for the hunt
oh I'm all for tying things back to God Valley :)
i wonder if in some way or extent Loki agreed/chose to be chained, or even if Loki is not fully chained. when Loki asked Luffy what Luffy made of the situation Luffy answered without making judgements, only describing the appearance, that Loki is chained up. Then Loki says no man chooses to be chained, providing the idea that Loki was forcibly chained. Luffy doesnt respond to this idea, just the length of time Loki’s been chained, and at least is hesitant after Loki’s deal is presented. Likely Luffy says hmm to Loki’s offer of wiping our another pirate crew, but also Luffy has encountered situations where someone consented to being being chained up (like Zoro for example, in Romance Dawn), and so partly may be reacting to Loki’s implication that Loki was chained forcibly.
its also possible that Luffy’s matter of fact statement of the appearance of the situation, and Loki’s follow up, could be Oda playing the reverse game Oda played at the beginning of the arc when the crew on Elbaf thought they were free but were actually imprisoned.
Funfact the animals are probably reused designs from the strong world film.
I seen people talking about that… I’m actually hoping it’s a hint shiki might be on elbaf :)
Here's a little tinfoil/cope theory for the next chapter:
You know how Robin cut her hair to match her style like it was when she and Saul first met? Well, if you look at chapter 392, Saul's introduction, you'd see that in Robin's first encounter with Saul he had just washed up on the shore, face first on the ground, full of bandages and looking very dead. Do you see what I'm hinting at?
Saul could've laid down to recreate that first meeting, and to try to scare Robin, something he failed to do despite screaming right in her face.
This would symbolize that Robin now has reasons to ve scared of things, something she lacked as a child from her sad backstory.
Oda's Monkey paw... He gave you the underworld... just not that underworld
I’ll take what I can get lol :)
we have early spoilers... rather news - another 2 week break, so next chapter only on the 1st of december
and after such a great chapter :/
loki probably has surtur (mythical zoan fruit) (fire gaint with horns from norse mythology)....they probably think fire power equal to sun god?
I have a theory Surtur would be used for a Lava Homie Big Mom created from the large pocket of lava underneath Wano when she comes to Elbaf
1:58 Legends and Tales not Religion i believe. their Culture? ITS WAR!
Hajrudin is interesting me on what his part is to play in this story. Robin og hair looks, but im questioning the community cause all of a sudden they just started shiting on the ts robin like its the worse thing in the world, and oda was wrong to do it. The ageda piece and nostalgia have rotted the community
another 2 week break 😭😭😭
Noooooo!!!
I mean yes Oda needs rest and I can totally be patient (I’m not a patient person)
You’re really cute
Norse mythology doesnt have an "Underworld".
Norse mythology has a god of the dead, Hel. She resides over an underworld-like realm. Google says In some accounts it was the last of nine worlds…
I don’t really care because I’ve been says since pre-long ring long land (not sure when I started) that I want them to go to the underworld. And when elbaf started I said I’d need them to combine Norse and Greek mythology so I can get them sailing the river Styx
It’s mostly a running joke at this point but I still want them to go to the underworld :)