Oshkosh Departures (Bally's Bomber!) - Sunday Part 1 - EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2021
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- Various aircraft depart from runway 36 on Sunday, August 1st at the 2021 EAA AirVenture airshow in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
Look for Bally's Bomber and the Stinson Trimotor!
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I seen them every morning and occasionally they fly over my house low enough I can read the tail number
Bally's Bomber at 2:54
Tiny Flying Fortress was the most awesome thing I've seen in many years, whoever built that should be very proud of themselves.
The man who built it was, sadly he passed in 2020 and the man flying it now is the new owner.
He spent 30 years building it and only lived a few years after it was finished. And, strangely, he never flew it himself because he wasn't rated for multi-engine and it could only seat one.
@@ReptileRescue I'm glad he built the plane, though it seems a bit pointless to spend all that money over such a long time for a vehicle he couldn't fly. At least the new owner can.
Imagine all the famous ww2 bombers built like this , the lancaster, the he111 the b29, rhe pe8 , it would be amazing
@@Phaota Then, you just don't get it. 🙏
Ok, that bomber is the coolest thing ive seen in a long time. My Christmas list is now complete.
..Looks like an R/C B-17, that happens to be big enough to accommodate a pilot...
Is that b17 actually a flying airplane?
I think that is Jack Bally's B-17 he built in his garage by hand.
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Even the sound was cool.
Sounds like two stroke engines.
That little B17 is one of the coolest air craft I have seen in a while. Thanks for sharing.
Same here. Looks underpowered despite 4 engines.
Its takeoff was so scary
The Bally's Bomber miniature B-17 is one of the most wonderful man-made things I've ever seen or heard of AND looks entirely airworthy and fun to fly, but it may also be as uncomfortable or quirky as the aesthetically-pleasing but not for long trips Oscar Meyer Weiner-Mobile.
But the BEST parts of this phenomenal thing is it was built, single-handed using just flying model specifications and plans scaled UP 3 times in every way to make the whole thing work. Then modifications using off-the-shelf components, engines, systems and such were adjusted and added as necessary to make it all airworthy and legal. The whole concept is unprecedented, brilliant, masterful in so many ways - and repeatable!
I low key wanna know what it was before those mods..
Would love to know what engines that B-17 is using. Large scale RC radial engines? What fits in those cowls?
That mini-B-17! I could just imagine how people in WW2 would react to it.
make it a fighter!
Dropping grenades instead of bombs!
It would be the best way to compromise German AA flaks aim. =D
@@georgysb ... definitly. Though I´m not sure how this tiny Fortress reacts on some FW190.
@@Barrawitzkaa fighters wouldn't find it as ground observers would tell it flies 10km high while it's only 2km high.
I'm surprised to see Bally's Bomber there. The builder just died so I never thought we'd ever see it again. Not very many videos showing it flying! Thank you!
Well I guess it shouldn't surprise me that I 'run into you' at these various other channels since we obviously have some similar views, likes, etc. Stay safe!
@@johncashwell1024 algorithm
very sad to hear of his passing, at least he got to see his treasure fly.
When did he die?
Im sure it was after taking the pincher :(
That scaled down B17 blew my socks off. A genuine labor of love. 👍👍👍👍
It was upscaled from an rc design!
Yep... one guy spent 17 years building it. That's some serious effort right there...
Bally's Bomber is a work of art but it always looks like it's on the verge of a stall when flying.
Doesn't that make it even more scale -- like The Real Thing, overloaded with bombs for Adolf, and enough fuel to get it there. (And maybe even Back to England.)
@@richardjensen2769 the true b17 had plenty of power to do a graass roll over loaded....annd fly at 24000 feet at ground speed of probable 350mph....thaat experimental does look undeer powered, but the taail does not seem to get airborn very easily i would like to comapre the center of graviity between the real and the x.
The
@@JohnDoe-nd9mv B17 top speed 287mph, cruise speed 182 mph.
@@nomdeplume2117 Maximum 300 mph. at 30,000 ft.Maximum continuous263 mph. at 25,000 ft.Cruising speed170 mph.Landing74 mph.Rate of Climb37 minutes to 20,000 ft.
Finally, someone is flying in his model airplane. I waited so long for this to see. Great 👍
You and me both- Awesome!👍
That is EXACTLY what he did...he took RC model plans and blew them up...drank a lot of beer and fabricated EVERYTHING! I followed the whole project start to finish. Absolutely wonderful workmanship. There is another airplane out there with the same type of background...it's called the QED GeeBee absolutely gorgeous!
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Seeing the Bally Bomber taxi I initially thought the two inboard engines were just for show. I was thrilled to see all four engines running at takeoff!
That’s how literally most of them operated during WW2. Such a fan but didn’t do any research?
@@bigbcor Rubbish, it was SOP in both the USAAF and RAF for all multi-engined aircraft to start all of their engines prior to departing from their hardstand to ensure these were all operating. Any aircraft which had engine defects were automatically scrubbed from a mission and never permitted to enter onto a common taxiway and thereby interfere with and possibly delay other ground traffic and engines were never stopped once started as doing so unnecessarily risked these not starting again. 'Research' indeed SMH.
@@harryricochet8134 Just to reply/elaborate on all 3 comments- AFTER LANDING it was common for inboards to be shut down to allow the pilot to steer the a/c easily on #1 and #4 throttles....after all, if you're below a speed where there's decent rudder authority in a tail dragger or a trike u/c without nosewheel steering, a 4 engined heavy is a fat clumsy lummox while on the ground.
As regards takeoff- all 4 should really be warmed up equally before the a/c even moves, even on modern reliable engines.
Dwarf B17 beautiful.....but seemingly would be less of a handful with more horsepower.
@@thephilpott2194 My op didn't refer to post-landing taxiing procedures which are entirely immaterial to it as well as the comment that I replied to which itself was categorically incorrect in respect to the claims it made regarding pre-flight taxiing procedure that was mentioned within the originating post of this subthread. I don't know what the intended purpose of your comment is other than a testament to your own deficient reading comprehension skills.
Puts a new bend on model aircraft
Now I wanna build an SR-71 like that! 😎
I want a miniature YF-23 now
RC planes and jets keep getting bigger and bigger it doesn't surprise me that someone finally put a chair in the front
@@unkulwilly
Always wondered when it would happen - couldn’t have picked a much cooler plane, gotta get me one 👍
@@hidel308 if you do, got to call it Rosebud.
This is mesmerizing! When I was a Kids I used to sit & watch planes take off/ land at the Airport where my Dad kept his Bonanza...Still love it!!
The B17 is the coolest aeroplane. I am reminded of my time as a DE with EASA ratings. I often flew out of Falcon Field Az with European candidates on their commercial check ride for European certificates. The local warbirds Museum flew a beautifully restored B17 among other WW2 military types. I found it upsetting that many if the twenty year olds I tested were unaware and unimpressed when sharing the pattern with various WW2 types. Sixty or seventy years older than they were. Without those machines and the men who gave their lives flying them the lives of these youngsters could be very different than the lives they knew.
TBH, I'd expect them to pay attention to their flying when taking a pilot's test - your mere presence *should* cause them to be as "professional" as they can be - don't want to taxi into a ladder rubber-necking the p-51 after all.
@@muninrob Thank you for your comments. To my mind a key part of professionalism is about awareness and communication. Regarding a check ride as being scrutinised by an inhuman being from another planet is one sure source of additional self-imposed stress, in an already stressful situation.
@@tomarmstrong1281 Yup - raw nerves keep more pilots out of an H-60's pilot seat than technical skills
The Bally Bomber is phenomenal! Very happy to see it in the air.!
The perseverance of a man and his dream is as impressive as the creation.
The bally bomber looks even smaller in person and super cramped inside
The really cool bit on the Bally Bomber is that it was made from plans ment for a radio control model b-17
OK I have been a World War II aircraft buff for 50 years. This hands-down is one of the neatest things I have ever seen! You are awesome‘ love it love it love it! Keep up the good work. Keep the old warbirds alive❤️👌❤️👌❤️👌❤️👌👍👍👍
The mini B17 is just fantastic in every way how brilliant
Bally's bomber is so impressive and unique! RIP to Mr. Bally
Someone needs to do similar with a mini Lancaster
That would be AMAZING. Or a Mosquito. Trimotor was gorgeous.
@@richsmith7769 wasn’t it? Awesome. And yes, the mosquito has to be one of the best looking planes of WW2.
@@nickraschke4737 or something really exotic like a Beaufighter, or Gannett. I love Gannetts, guess I'm just a weird American. A lot of us over here........weird ones, I mean.
@@richsmith7769 Hahahaha 😊
What an interesting plane the Gannet was. Getting those folding wings right would be interesting!
@@nickraschke4737 and you could probably fly it standing up..........rudders would be tricky.....damn, another bad joke.......
That “B-17” was a marvel to behold!
Interesting design, that Stinson trimotor! The Bally's Bomber was fun, too!
I love the reverse canter of the windshield looks really tough, but probably doesn't help airflow much
Thanks for the comment, was wondering what that was.
Now the Shriners have strategic, precision bombing capability! ;-)
One of those little model A's as a tow/tug made up like an old military 🪖 ambulance or something like that would be very cool 😎..lol...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 🤠
Oooh, you are scary.
But I can picture it flying down main street USA during the 4th of July parade dropping sticks of sugar bombs.
@@WilliamRWarrenJr The Bally Bomber always looks like it's flying tail heavy to me. I hope the actual weight and balance works out better than it appears to be. 🧐
A great sampling of classics, and types.
I can feel my eyes burning from the aviation fuel and the smell brings me back to camping and the Coleman stove .
The Bally Bomber is so cool. What an outstanding build. So sad to hear of the builder/owner passing away. A very very talented man. Thanks for posting this unique aircraft.
Bally’s Bomber looks like it handles like a shopping cart.
Looks tail heavy
there is a video talking about its making and first flights, the builder wanted to keep everything to scale, not everything works to scale, the props are to small and it barely makes enough thrust, notice how long the take off role was and the engines were really revving hi
Overloaded and has one bad wheel
Yeah. Cute idea but looks like it handles terribly.
I appreciate the mans "True ti scale" but that beauty is way under powered! It may cost him one day!
The flying fortress is a jaw dropper..!!
I'd like to see more Bally Bomber types like the B-24, C-47, B-26, P-61, etc. Anything of a dying breed would be appreciated.
It took the builder 20 years to finish the B-17, but he died not long afterwards.
Huge amount of work went into the design and construction.
A P-61 replica would be awesome no matter what scale!
Kermit Weeks had a video a while back of a guy building a 60% i think p-47. With a Warner radial
I heard that apparently Mr Bally started off wanting to do a B-24 but wrote the idea off due to tail weight. Something to do with every time the pilot would get out it would likely have tipped back on the mains and stuck its nose in the air. Which would likely make any tricycle design hard unless you could find a way to really lighten the tail. And like ziggy said it took him 20 years. Though I don't know how hard or fast he was working at the project. I imagine if someone went full time on it they might pull it off quicker with the right gear. But, as with many things worth while they require 3 things.
time, money, and skills(or willingness to learn em).
B-36. I'm 27 so let's see if I can do it before I die
*_Bally's Bomber_* I had no idea there
was a mini B-17, is this a first? Really nice!
For the person who wants to wage war against a very small country.
@@davidedmundson8402 Liechtenstein and Andorra better amp-up their anti-aircraft batteries.
Neither did I, and then I found out that it was built less than 15 miles from me! I recently found out that someone has been rebuilding a real B-17 for over a decade not far from where I work. So cool
Yes it is a first and only, built from scaled up r/c plans every piece fabricated by hand by a fantastic craftsman named Jack Bally.
Unbelievable what a talented man built such beautiful b 17 ?? Just Incredibil small scale. Bravooo
Now that B-17 has got to be the best toy in the world anyone could have!! Awesome!
That B17 is an example of taking your 1/4 scale RC and flying from in the cockpit😂 poor thing looked like it just wants to stall.
Looks like a real, fully loaded B17 taking off.
If I remember correctly he built this from upscaling an rc version rather than down sizing an actual b-17. Very cool plane
Not sure how much washout in wing/airfoil profile, thick bulbous profile can tolerate higher angle of attack..will look as I re-watch!😁
*AOA/Climb looked ok, fat wing does make it look like more than 5-6° angle as he was @ low far from camera.. was probably @ best angle climb.. origional built as a long range bomber, not a T&Go plane for sure! ..so takeoffs & landings would be pretty darn FLAT.. LIKE A HEAVY LOAD GLIDER WITH POWER!🤣👍
It is underpowered
Baby B17 looks like the real deal. Too cool.
What the hell, that scale B-17 is one of the most awesome and amazing planes I've ever seen 👍👍
Looks like that scaled down B-17 had no flaps on takeoff. I also have to say this reminds me of the end of the movie at a drive-in, or when the ferry docks and everyone wants to be the first off.
Awesome, the tiny flying fortress actually flew,I thought it was a miniature demo model.👍
Was probably one of the most dangerous airplanes at Oshkosh to fly
About the best variety of departing aircraft witnessed here of any OSH videos. Congrats and thanks.
How cool is that! A Mini b-17! I love it!!!❤❤
The Bally's bomber is the result of building an RC model big n' wide enough to room yourself. Gaves me an excellent idea.
3:00 That Plane Sounds So Cool Taking Off And Looks Stunning In The Air.
I love all the biplanes! They have a special place in my heart. If I ever did get my pilot's license, I'd love to own and operate a biplane.
My neighbor has a Aerosport Scamp it's a experimental biplane. So no license is necessary....from Wyoming USA 🇺🇲🤠 I could send pictures, but only know how to text them.
That B17 was so cool, just Wow! Made my day! Thanks, again just Wow!
It’s basically a scale model with the controller & pilot inside. Love it.
True that! It wasn't a scaled-down version of the original; it was a scaled-up model from model plans.
A mini B17. First time I have seen it. Very cool. Pure passion!
Billy's Bomber, God please rest creator's soul. Very cool aircraft, also very nice to have a personal B 17. Who ever has the plane now, please share it with us.
Would have loved to see the take-off roll of that twin engine float flying mantis🦟
I waited and waited for the Mantis but just got a view of Pitts instead.
Where are they all headed? That mini B-17 was undoubtedly the star of the show.
Absolutely outstanding, what an amazing dedication and achievement
Does the Bally Bomber look to be quite underpowered?
Yes, I thought that. He seemed quite slow and quite high angle of attack that made me worry a it as he banked very gently. Obviously well understood and controlled by the owner. Maybe it was full of stuff from the show and fuel!
Thanks for sharing. Missed the show this year. Usually I see some formations or a few warbirds over our house 30 miles west of Oshkosh.
That mini B-17 was awesome
That Experimental B-17. Geeeeezzzz…….. was that beautiful or what???
What a Thing of Beauty . A B -1.7 (sic) as a Personal Aircraft . Only two Radios . One says " Hello " and the other plays the Top 40 .
Wow that B-17 is the coolest thing EVER. Take off is at 2:59
That twin pusher with floats at 5:34 is really, really, interesting.
A.G.R.E.E.D - I think it's an AIR-CAM Seaplane
I’m not even a plane guy but that b17 is epic!
What a brilliant design idea. To even have that thought is innovative!
Thanks guys, some of the best tower operators in the business!
That B-17 is the coolest ever!
That B17 pilot is living the dream. So nicely made. I flown in the bomber seat in sentimental journey. Best 1000$ i spent. Besides other stuff i can't say here :)
It was a pleasure to read of your good experience and values with the Flying Forts. That WAS money well-spent, an investment in quality life experience - which IS what it's ALL about. Those Forts saved our sorry butts in WW2 and that techno-miracle allowed us to HAVE most of what we enjoy(ed) in our lives - these very machines did that, from 20-year-old, slapped together panic driven design to the Flying Fortress warwinner she became - with an Air Force pilots and aircrews born(e) right along side. Well and timely said. Our head and hearts are in formation. May the fourth be with you and us.
@@jeffwalther3935 , absolutely humbling to fly in these machines in time of peace. Thinking about all these young men and women who boarded these advanced massive aircraft must have been overwhelming for a soldier who never even saw an engine running, let alone 4 enraged 1,200-horsepower Wright R-1820-97 radial engines, in time of war, loaded with a full bomb load and avgas. Over enemy territory, getting shot by fighters and flack. I was stressed out in time of peace, i can't imagine myself in their conditions in time of war. I would've been a total mess.
@@ayuse01 No Pat. Its not like that at all. If a soldier, you're entirely focused to win the war to getr any relifef youll ever enjoy. So being ". . . a total mess." is something almost EVERYBODY encounters and learns NOT to be. That's what boot camp is for - transition. If you're going into war, into the fight, you have to be almost singularly focused, unlike peaceful, civilian lifestyle you've only known and probably hardly imagine. As such, if you really anticipate going to war, you EMBRACE such training and orientation because it yields the best outcome no matter what happens. Such a reasonable attitude to the task at hand, war and combat, is just adjustment, which comes, unless there's something wrong with you.
Mini b17 looks awesome !
Wow, that's a hell of a line-up.
Cheers to the air traffic controllers in the tower , they did a marvelous job on such a busy day - :)
Some of these planes are so awesome,
I wish you would caption the models as
they depart.
You do know there’s Lepp aviation who does that.
When I was a young lad my model aircraft club had a member that flew a control line six foot wing span B-29. Only on days with no cross wind.
That bomber replica and TRI motor is very nice
My favorite aircraft were the mini B-17 Bally Bommer and the amphibious Laker Bucanier and the Erocope!
The Stinson Tri-Motor is the ultimate Gem out this Brilliant parade of Rare & Exotic Birds!!!!!
Just Beautiful.
Ugliest thing I have ever seen lol.
The Bally Bomber is a cool-looking plane.
Does anyone know the type of the Blue Seaplane at 5:30 is? , My son would definitely want to know the name of that plane.
It's an Air Cam! Thanks for watching
Now that’s a flying model airplane !
Just when I thought I'd seen everything.
That bomber is just too cool!
I always dreamed of building a B 17 like that shown here!!
NOW, it's easier than ever. Jack shows ya how to do EVERYTHING. That's the hard part. You could do it to any size, any good airframe, with any suitable resources that Jack had - as much as 30 years ago. Its gotta be much easier today, thanks to JB and the pioneering he did to create the BB. Cheers! Happy landings!
@@jeffwalther3935 do tell!! Where do I get information?
@@aztecwarrior7678 The Jack Bally B-17 Bomber information in story form is on TH-cam. But Mr. Bally's achievement is he did it himself, with his main information/instructions from a RC model B-17 and multiplied all the measurements by 3 to get an aircraft 3 times larger that could carry 1-2 persons. Then he simply installed all the controls, devices, engines, systems and gear from conventional, production, general aviation aircraft as he needed until the aircraft was safe, reliable, tested as airworthy. That's all the information Jack developed and needed. It can be done with any airworthy airframe design, really. Mr. Bally, chose a complex design to start with and, with simplified plans like that, did it ALL alone.
But he chose a model of a B-17G, the most developed of the B-17's unusually long, long, time-tested design, with tens of thousands of sorties to use for testing and evaluation of technologies to start with ingenious practical improvements ALREADY built into the B-17G that Jack took advantage of completely by just starting with the best Forts off the assembly line.
@@jeffwalther3935 i ALSO HAVE increased SIZE OF WOODEN MODELS , BUT TO THAT SIZE ! ITS AMZING. THANK YOU
@@aztecwarrior7678 It IS amazing on so many levels which we both get a big kick out of it all. Here's why, I think, Jack's experimental aircraft, idea, project and process are SO uniquely and spectacularly amazing: 1) he designed, built and figured out everything ALONE and with his own range of resources. THIS feat required a "renaissance man" skills set of theoretical and practical depth, breadth and scope of dozens of arts and sciences, e.g., aerodynamics, aviation logistical and materials, law, engines, all manner of time, materials and resources administration, . . . engineering, metallurgy, chemistry, medical physiology, military history, . . . etc. 2) he went backwards from the usual approach to such miniaturization, multiplying UP by a whole number, everywhere, consistently, instead of reducing DOWN wherever one can arbitrarily, thus building in the precise airworthiness ratios all the materials and parts relationships to each other in smaller form. THAT's the whole big key to doing it RIGHT is to preserve all those interrelationships in 1/3 the size.
Even better, his experimental aircraft became more than than the sum of it's parts due to Jack's painstaking quest. It has become as much as a flying/working masterpiece of art; an expression of unspoken love, gratitude, honor and demonstration of individual patriotic devotion and even adoration, imho, too.
What a little BEAUTY!
WOW!!! The B-17 scaled for one pilot!!! AWESOME !!!!!!! I have never seen that. I would love to watch a documentary on how it was made. 12 O'Clock High LIVES AGAIN...Go Col. Gallagher.
I thought I had seen it all! That planes a beauty!
SOMEBODY needs to use their rudder pedals more often. That was a hell of a side-slip for the scale B-17 at takeoff.
I mean that thing is super experimental, that scale model set up cant be great for visibility or proper control surface size to say nothing of multi engines and tail dragger to boot.
@@logicbomb5511 Yah. I wonder if he could even maintain control or respond fast enough with the throttles if he lost an outer engine. This aorcraft would certainly react to such a situation quicker than a full size b-17. I wish him the best of luck.
That miniature B-17 is amazing. A miniature replica that's actually convincingly to scale, complete with three-blade props. What engines does it use?
I believe he has rotax engines
Too small ones it's slightly underpowered.
Bally's Bomber looks like a crazy idea but it is tought to argue why not. It is fun for sure.
That B17 is brilliant. Think of the savings in manpower, production and fuel if they had built them this size originally.
It'd have all of a six pack of beer's worth of payload capacity...
Come to think of it, whomever owns that bird should totally try that. Strap parachutes to some beer bottles, line up his best buds in lawn chairs, and do a beer run...
@@Cal94 So you’re saying it needs a Lager payload.
That baby bomber is epic!
That little bomber is the coolest
My lord! That B17! Now that worth the money..and the time…and the license!! Incredible work ty, ty😅❤
Can't help but feel that the Bally bomber reminds me of a heavy fighter/interceptor. Like a psychological kind of thing to help throw off enemy fighters from the bomber group.
That mini B17 is major league cool.
There ya go. I keep saying, these guys building giant RC planes they could ALMOST ride in should take it a step further.
Finally, an RC you can sit in and fly...
Excellent video...no BS, video is crystal clear, many interesting aircraft. Bravo!
Ah ah. Love that tiny B17 😊❤
The crazy detail not much know about it was the builder built the scaled up version from a set of model airplane plans
I NEED that tiny B-17 in my life.
WoW!!! That is insanely cool- fine work gents.⚡️
Pilots are getting bigger and bigger these days
3:13 Cool to see Ballys Bomber fly again!
The mostwonderfull part of fling is that momentwhenthe aircraft tells you it is ready to fly
What is the scale on the little B-17? Many and I mean lot of years ago, I read an article where a half scale 17 was considered. It would have had a 2 man crew as that's all that would fit. In a tandem seating arrangement
I believe that it is a 1/3 scale. I was lucky enough to meet the man and see the beautiful craft throughout it's construction. Jack Bally was one of my grandfather's close friends and a phenomenal craftsman.
I must have read the same article, that said the 1/2 scale 17 only had enough room for 2 in tandem. Would the 24 be just as tight? The 25? Wondering mind wants to know.(to much time on my head)
Talk about busy airspace. Good lord
No fooling. That 1/3 scale B17G was the most interesting a/c seen in many years of these videos! Great job!