Steadycam vs Gimbal - What is the BEST dslr stabilizer? - REAL world review
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- In this video I test I put a Glidecam vs Gimbal vs in camera stabilization and find out which one really does give the best results. These are REAL world tests of me tuning as fast as I can across a desert. Maybe I should have tried a normal walk too, this may have been a fairer test between these DSLR stabilizers. Lean what the best image stabilizers in 2017. The glidecam and gimbal are types of steadicam (although this is a brand too) but traditionally a steady cam is a weighted stem for balance and a gimbal is a motorized system.
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In this image stabilization videos I test the Glidecam HD 2000 and the DJI Ronin M. As a base line I use a Canon G7x with its in camera stabilization.
In this 3 axis gimbal review I found that the DJI Ronin M review gave the best and smoothest results. Although none of these DSLR stabilizer types deliver Z-axis image stabilization the DJI Ronin was able to deliver almost perfect results.
A gimbal stabilizer uses brushes motors and batteries to stabilize an image. A Glidecam is a weighted stabilizer that uses the center of gravity to stabilize and in camera stabilization does all the work digitally. Watching this should show you what gimbal to buy 2017.
I used wide angle lenses in all instances as this should enhance any 'wobble' towards the end of the frames. I have only reviewed these 3 image stabilizers so please leave a comment letting me know what you think us the best dslr stabilizer 2017.
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I see where you’re going with this and I think it has value. As many have pointed out, a balance-based stabiliser, like a steadicam, takes practice. For example, you need to hold the post at the gimbal, not down the post. Of course, there are valid ways to use them however you see fit.
I’ve got a steadicam and with an arm and vest it’s a remarkable tool that takes practice to learn. That said, the shots you’re doing here aren’t well suited to steadicam at all. A pro operator would refuse to do them because they’re simply too dangerous.
Would love to see you try a full Steadicam at some point. The courses are expensive but you might really enjoy learning how to balance and operate - and the new electronic gimbal steadicam is remarkable.
the Steadicam is a gimbal
Steadicam, Glidecam, etc. == counterweighed gimbal
Movi, Ronin, Crane, etc. = motorized gimbal
Happy to see that you finally realized that the Glidecam requires 2-handed operation - so we can discount the "wind blew it around" problem.
That drone sounds like a helicopter
hahaha. I know I added the sound In post for dramatic effect. can you imagine if a drone sounded like that.
I own a glidecam. It does take some practice ( a lot )... but I love the end result for real estate photography. It gives that 'flying through the room' sensation. Love your channel. Thanks for all the valuable info... especially the lightroom tutorials. You are my professor. :-)
Thanks for this. I'm definitely on the fence about which way I should go on a small budget. I thought some of your insight of the cons towards the end of the video were just as valuable as the testing you did.
I think this was a great way to test these! I'll definitely be saving for a ronin now. Amazing results! You should definitely do more of these kinds of videos! Super helpful.
But with a Glidecam you can get better results by practicing a lot with it.
A Ronin can be used by everyone and immediately but it will be dead if you ever fall with it...
Personally I will always prefer a Glidecam, just because it can't run out of power, it's very very hard to break and it will last for years.. It's a tool you can always rely on!
With that, you can get the up and down axis stabilized by using a vest and spring arm! :D
he definitely didn't had any practice with glide cam :P
many people believe you can get good resutls with a 3 axis stabiliser without any training but his is wrong,with a training i get better results than using a glidecam, without training i cannot get good footage with any kind of stabiliser, power never was a problem since i am using 3 axis gimbals, but i understand , before i ever used electronic gimbals i had exactly your thoughts
Also, you compared a 1,299 dollar ronin to a 94 dollar steadycam, hmmmmm....
Love the helicopter sound effect :)
I thought he chartered heli for the first 5 sec
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So fake
You guys were having way too much fun! LOL Great look at the stabilizers. I'd love to have a Ronin, but I've already put several of DJI's kids through college.... Maybe someday.... Great footage (can it be called 'footage' any more?) from the Mavic, too - I love mine!
I know right. we had such a great day. If you have the magic you can actually just fold in the wings and use it in your hand and you actually have a pretty awesome image stabilizer. I have done this..... But the quality of footage from the DJI Ronin is pretty amazing huh. Happy you enjoyed the video.
Yeah, the Mavic small and light, and doesn't attract as much attention as running down the street with my Inspire! LOL People look at you funny when you do that... :-D
I would like to see a review of a steadycam with the vest and arm. That would take care of the up and down movement. Also, practice would make a huge difference as you stated in the review.
That Ronin M is eight hundred and ninety nine dollars, my guy. Like, fam....I give up. I swear these career paths are designed for rich people. Who has less than a thousand dollars just lying around to cop such a device? I don't, I got bills and stuff.
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the Ronin and David Gram Glidecam are just about the same price tho...
Chris Wellz save $10,000 for camera equipment ... simple
Used to be like $1,500 when it was released lol
@GABI ROQUE So true! You have to save and invest in your future.
I started with a GoPro and iPhone and now I have a Nikon camera, steadycam editing software etc.. it’s all about patience and taking the best decisions and specially never give up
You got a spectacular presentation dude
Could you review a budget version of this?
Thats a great idea. In my next camera stabilizer video i will try ones at different price points for sure. great idea.
Noah Turtle great idea! I'm not in any kind of position to spend hundreds for a stabilizer but would love an option to get better footage
Could you check out the Zhiyun-Tech Smooth Q Smartphone Gimbal I saw it on b and h and it would be more on the reasonable side
if your looking for budget stabilizer check out the YELANGU S60T, and zhiyun crane v2
legendp2011 this guy knows what he's talking about
I can completely agree I have a glide cam that I did a lot of mountaineering with and it still works!! but massive massive learning curve lol
When it comes to running and stabilization, I'll use my Mavic Pro 2. Much better, and a WHOLE LOT easier. With that being said, nice review.
Next time out, straighten the goose neck on the Canon and grip the assembly loosely between the thumb and forefinger just below the base of the camera. You'll get much better results and have much more control. You'll also find that you can use the lower fingers on the hand to create a nice vertical tilt when needed so you don't have settle for feet and nothing more at the top of the frame, you can actually follow the runner up the hill and keep them full frame.
Once you've done this and have figured out why it works so well you'll come to the realization that your high dollar steady cam can easily be replaced with a $15 monopod. While you are probably doubting me on this point take a step back and think about how you are using your steady cam. In order to make it usable you have to defeat the gimbal and if you're just going to defeat the gimbal, why do you even need one? Most of your shots were two handed which did little more than turn a high dollar stabilizer into a two-fisted monopod. Pick up one of the 67" monopods off Amazon, mount the larger camera to it, and grip lightly around the monopod just below the camera at the top of the foam rubber grip. Depending on the weight of the camera you may need to extend the monopod a slight bit but if it balances fully collapsed, leave it that way. Once you work out just how to grip it and how to keep proper tension in your arm you'll wonder why you ever paid big bucks for a steady cam. And while you'll lose that quick front to back spin feature, you'll gain tilt control which in the grander scheme of things you may find far more useful.
You was fantastic in that test. Perfect. Congratulations! I bought some Steadycams, and I didnt like them... Now, I know what to buy...
A good review, I own a Steadicam with the arm and vest. I've also used the 3 axis gimbal and I got bored in 10 minutes. They are ideal for quick fun shots but for me im not in control of the camera, the electronics are, which is why I cant stand using them. I also cant see any potential creative shots. In this case the electronics will never go beyond the steadicam. For your next test, go in a non windy location.
This is an excellent comparison, especially for a beginner.
Great comparison, I thought your testing methodology was pretty good actually. You chose a good variety of shots that are chalengeing to any system and soothing particularly for each. Also very good that you included a “baseline”
My only bit of criticism, if you can call it that, is the vast difference in budget level between the the systems. It is interesting to see how a low priced glidecam fairs against the ronin, but the ronin is not really a budget gimbal and as a really rather professional piece of equipment you would expect it might have the edge. I would have liked to have seen an actual steadicam branded system with arm and vest. It’s been a long time since I’ve used a glidecam, but the older systems had a big gap in performance, not to mention the issues with panning would most likely be better addressed with the arm and vest as the weight is carried in you hips, leaving your arms to focus on framing your composition and making movements. Also a closer match of price vs pertformance in two very different systems would be great to see in a future video.
Thanks for the test, very informative.
please do one for zhiyun crane and the new steadicam thats on kickstarter! nice work on the helicopter sound on drone shots, for a moment, I thought "ooh helicopter shot, this video must have cost a fortune", 😂😂
Great Idea. In the update I will definitely add the Zhiyun Crane. I will try to add a number of there camera stabilizers at different price points too. Happy you enjoyed the video.
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laing p4s also seems like a good material i think
Very interesting video! It might not be very scientific as you said, but the way you tried to replicate the same scene three times with different stabilizers under windy conditions gave some really appreciable results. Thank you for this video!
I think the glidecam would be an amazing piece of equipment to start with when entering the world of camera stabilization.
yea not very scientific but then again I have no idea why you would want a scientific test. these are stabilizers to be used on actual shoots. Real world testing is the only relevant way of doing this in my opinion. I think you are right about the glidecam image stabilizer. It takes a little training but in the long run this will just make you a far better camera operator. Great thoughts. thanks.
I agree with you 100%. Thanks for sharing and caring to reply! :)
Thanks for the great review and terrific overheads of seeing you do your stuff. It looks pretty obvious here that the Ronin was way superior. I'd very much like to see your assessment of the Zhiyun Crane V2 which, although originally targeted towards mirrorless cameras, now with upgraded software, can handle heavier DSLRs like the Canon 5D Mark iv. At $650, it's a mainstream price and, in some YT videos appears quite good as a 3-axis gimbal. I'd like to see your take on it. Maybe it's as good as good as the Ronin, but at a way lower price. Size-wise, there's less bulk to it too. Thanks. Great channel and terrific reporting. 👍
I will indeed add the Zhiyun Crane V2 to my next review of camera stabilizers. I am definitely interested to see the results from a smaller one handed stabilizer. Thanks for the thoughts and i look forward to getting my hands on one of these.
Great. And it would be especially relevant for me if it was paired with a full size DSLR like a canon 5D rather than a mirrorless camera, especially since some of the mirrorless cameras already have enhanced image stabilization built into the camera body. Thanks again. Hal
I've got a steadycam that I use that produces some dope content!! You just have to know what to expect when you're getting one. They're IS a learning curve, but with a little bit of practice you can certainly get great footage comparable, or in some cases *better than a gimble. Still would definitely recommend it though...I've got a budget one from Neewer and have produced some nice footage with it
The way to describe the stabilisation is to say it has 3 axis of rotation it does not do 3 axis of translation. ie it doesn't move inside the axis it moves around the axis.
Great video! Although not scientific, as you said, it covers some real shooting situations I haven't seen in other comparisons. Definitely helped a lot. I'll have to agree that the chopper sfx was distracting me from the actual content, but of course it's just a minor thing.
It seems obvious the Ronin is going to offer the best results but it is really expensive and not something a lot of people can afford and as an amateur videographer I use a budget glidecam, put a wide range lens (10-18mm) then use the warp stabilisation tool within adobe premier.
Sorry for this question, but have you ever even held a glidecam in your hands before? I don’t wanna sound rude - but you are giving a wrong representation of the glidecam as a stabilizing system
you are correct that I have had limited experience with a glide cam. I do say this in the video. but the discovery is still relevant I think. thanks for your constructive cynicism and no offense was taken.
He seems to be surprised that you use two hands on it - but that’s how you operate it?!
@@Ross_Garden You basically just use one hand and the other one just for slide rotations. And he is holding the glidecam with both hands extremely hard.
Great Vid, Loved the shop you do this in. The light under the door just make it all look authentic. But I would try to take some of that shine off your face, but it was not a deal breaker.
I was having a tough time making a decision..and your video was absolutely awesome. Thank you for the detailed tests! I've made my choice. Ronin.
Please do a full tutorial on the Ronin M... settings, tricks... the whole deal... clearly it is your favorite .
Nice one Ed :) you always make me chuckle when there is a drone involved!
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High action moves ill take the ronin, for the rest I'll take the glidcam and also I'll add weight to get smother and don't have problem with the wind
Awesome video, was wondering where was this shot? Looks so beautiful
Love this video, quite informative; had to adjust the volume though between the vocals and background music, just an FYI to ear/headphone users who have sensitive hearing. But video was awesome info-wise (even if old, some of these products are in the second-hand market).
Great review and comparison.
If u haven't already, do a part 2 and when using the Glidecam place your turning hand just below the bearings so you don't compromise the counterweight effect. Use two fingers very sightly. And lose the helicopter noise lol
How about the DJI Osmo with the Z-Axis attachment? The Z-Axis should smooth out the up and down movements. The only problem is that low shots can't be done with the Z-Axis.
Oh, there's also the poor man's glide cam which is to mount the camera onto a collapsed aluminum monopod and find the balance point on the grip. Hold it relatively gingerly there and run around.
Perfect video I was looking for
ya u have to make a next upgradable video on this ... n u had flue the drone at the first n gave a sound of a chopper ... that was nic. n looks real .. n then when I realized that it was drone I was laughing. 😂😂😂😂😂 nic video man . n made really a hard work .....
I will for sure make a new video on this but what would you like to see me test and are there different tests I should do? I will also test some different stabilizers too.
ya go with all the stabilizers n u test it in person. n tell us the best of which u like us to use .... n do the unboxing of it n explain the working or the construction of it . do video on many more gadgets on camera .. pple like unboxing so try do it n explain in the same video
Yeah n. U n.u. but when the n. Realize! 😂😂😂
Photos In Color you might put the G7x on the stabilisers.
Really cool video man! I use a steady cam, it took me time to Learn to use it but I get cool shots, and if you use post production stabilization it's a good result for the money, but I'd really like to buy the ronin it's beautiful, smooth, and professional! Love your video ed! Keep working like that!
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awesome review man :D I love how you tested it out!
Good review Ed.
Awesome video mate!
I can't express how thankful I am to have found your channel. Hands down the best photography/videography channel I'm subscribed to and I'm subscribed to a lot. Keep up the great work man! Thanks for spreading your knowledge!
What amazing video. You've have out these stabilizers to the ultimate test. Im wondering how ill they'd do in an urban environment?
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I just think if you use more practical shots for the comparisons it would make the tests a lot better. Just my opinion, good video.
Hi. Very helpful. How about trying to get reasonably close to some of those shots - not the near ground ones! - with a selection of drones? Is there anything that can follow the talent without crashing into them? I know some have a 'tripod' mode - does that work in these sorts of situations? Bob.
Nice Video. thank you. Can you maybe do a lens comparison for every day lenses?
This is something i will definitely be doing the future. Thanks for the idea and happy you enjoyed my steady cam vs gimbal video. We had fun.
Hi Zed. Great little video, for the next one it might be worth trying to find any of your contacts or getting someone who is experienced with Glidecam to test it against an experienced Ronin operator, and then see the difference with all due respect, as you say yourself, you haven't used the glidecam much which automatically leads the video to show better Ronin footage. you should maybe also check out the Ziyhun Crane which is quite popular at the moment I believe.
But i liked the video.
Amazing video! In the future could you compare cheaper stabilizers like the roxan pro and such It would be really interesting
Thats a great idea. i will definitely take a look at getting a number of different stabilizers for lots of different prices and really do a comparison and test. Happy you enjoyed this video though.
Your review was very good and the video was excellent.
Great video! Super-helpful!
Awesome video!is that 14-24 on ronin?what focal length did u used?
Thanks for your hard working & Well Done. Really appreciated.
Do u have a video on stabilization test on different type of shots? Example, dolly shot, push in, push out, tilt reveal, pan reveal..
so... yes in the real world, if you were running in rugged terrain and moving the glidecam would suck, but on normal flat even terrain, it probably works just as well.
Love it!
Just the information I needed!
awesome effort. appreciate the study
excellent video. thanks very much
Ronin and the ZHJIUN CRANE
would be really interesting!
Steadycam's are impractical but if you can learn how to use it correctly which 90%of the time I can't the results are amazing. The gilmbals are good but they don't give the smooth energy motion Behind them like the steady cam and look sometimes robotic
amazing video! Plz asking you about the big lights on ur set? and are they very good sir? cuz i need some good lights.
Another Great video Ed, however I would love to see how the Ronin compare with the lot more discreet and cheaper Zhiyun Crane Gimbal. I am thinking of getting the Zhiyun to go with my A7Sii.
Wow! Ronin m seems to be great.
ok but devin-super-tramp uses the glide cam and he gets super smooth shots
You are completely correct and I think I said it that it takes some practice. I wish I could have practiced more with the glidecam as I think you can get mazing results from it. The wind was the challenge though. thanks for you thoughts.
I'd like to see you do tests while wearing a vest, at least for the Glidecam.
He has been working with the glide cam for many years, you can simply say that he has mastered it.
And yet...
Yeah, takes a lot of practice to make a shot perfect, but not that hard to make it smooth, in 5-10 tries you'll get one for sure. Kick in camera or lens IS, then in post smooth it out just a tiny bit with warp stabilizer, and there you go. If you slow down the motion a bit, it's gonna be buttery smooth. Ronin is for serious production for what it's worth, and for me it looks more like robot POV.
Fantastic video!
Could you review some cheaper stabilisers? Like the roxant pro one on eBay/Amazon (or anything similar!) this would be very helpful for beginner photographers/videographers like me.
Also wanted to say how inspiring you are and how amazing your videos are. You really have helped me in photography and editing! I even watch your photoshop videos too even though I don't use photoshop 😂 keep up the amazing work as you'll go really far, and thank you!
Helicopter sound effect was unnecessary.
+Jackie Godinez sometimes we just like to have fun. If that was unnecessary than I would say that most things on this video are also unnecessary. Hope you were still able to learn something about dslr stabilizers.
That was just something that I felt cheapened the video. That being said, the video was great. Well put together and very informative. Just my opinion.
Jesus it was just a joke chill
Someone call the fun police on Jackie!
i thought it was real lol whoops
Excellent video.
Could you tell me approximately where you shot these tests? It is so beautiful there, I need to visit!!
premiere elements can stabilise, it does so by cropping. For a vlogger, it's probably good enough.
Great video. Thanks. Just wondering which Drone you used for this video? It looks awesome.
Anybody out there to answer this for me please?
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Hey Ed... I really love your tutorials and find them very useful... But I got a question...In lightroom I want to see the edits I have done to a pic but I can't do that because it is already in the catelog... and I can't open it in the develop section....Plzz
So good! salutes From Colombia!
don't we all just wish there was a drone to carry all our film equipment whilst we hiked to the location
Keep in mind there are huge price differences between these solutions. Glidecam will be the cheapest good quality option and the Ronin of course is more than double the cost but clearly is quite impressive albeit awkward to use. Don't think the Glidecam 2000 is even available. I guess next time I am in a desert I know which one to use.
Dji ronin S is cheaper
Or you colud go for dji osmo
nice one Ed, happy business is going extremely well to afford your own helicopter now ;)
yea i actually have a flee of 16 helicopters. it just makes life easy, although parking is pretty tough. :)
can you test these for portrait with low shutter speed with Non vibration control.
Bro your videos are really awesome....... But I want u to take some lessons on light room used in android
Good information
Well done.
Not fair. You used two hands on the glidecam and your extra hand cause extra instability. I'd like to see it with one hand. I know you said it was blowing but still.
Iy would wobble like crazy if not and also thats the way you control it
Hi, could you tell me if it is possible to put a smartphone on a steadicam that is for devices up to 8 pounds?
Glidecam has a learning curve and once you achieve that then you will love Glidecam more than the Ronin.
Mujeeb ur Rehman no it will never be the ronin
Not a fair comparison. There are stabilizers under $100 nearly as good as the $580 Glidecam HD-2000.
thanks amazing review
happy you enjoyed it. Which one did you like best?
How do you keep your camera in focus while you run with it.
Why was the helicopter effect needed?
So would the glidecam be a good choice for real estate photography since there's no wind inside?
the ronin is a thousand dollars. it better be the best
How can you see your frame on these, in several cases you totally lost the frame on the top of the hill?
DJI Ronin, Zhiyun Crane, Feiyu Tech MG... Can you test these gimbals? Thanks. Nice video. And this drone... Is a DJI Mavic Pro?
Should test a real steadicam against the Ronin. That would be interesting.
This is interesting, but I wouldn't really frame it as a real world review - not many people are gonna be running around in the desert filming stuff.
but is the steadycam hd 200 also for gopros?