As the fellow already mentioned. Handstand push-ups will blow your overhead press up. Do them against a wooden door in a pair of socks. You will get a great slide going thanks to the socks on your feet. Daft but a top tip. The overhead press wa the lift until the bench press came along. The author Brooks Kubik found the lifting journals of a YMCA gym in the Bronx from the 1930s. Every lifter had at least a bodyweight overhead press and some guys had 160% bodyweight overhead presses. It used to be contested as an Olympic lift but was removed.
@@kevinhalligan5078 Definitely worth a try, I do wonder however if it’s a chicken or the egg type of question. Was the handstand push up a preferred accessory because options for accessory lifts were more limited compared to our modern day selection ? Were the results from that gym so much higher because lifting was a more niche culture with a much bigger pressing focus? However I love to look to the past for lifting wisdom and I absolutely think you shouldn’t knock something before you try it. I’ll definitely try this and record my results 💪
Never done gym and (and mainly so) I don't know if you're talking about pressing 70kg on overhead press like lifting 70kg up or like most times I see lifters saying they, for instance, bench 40kg they actually mean more like bench 40+9+40 so almost 90kg, but my main training for shoulders were freestanding handstand pushups. Like I'm 70kg now and I can do deep handstand pushups shoulder to the bar so if we consider the arms not being fully loaded on the shoulder but on the ground/bar I'd be pressing about 60-65kg on that for about 10-15 reps a set. But possibly when you say 70kg in practicallity you refer to 150kg with the sum of all weights so I'm waaay below, and I'm not able to figure that out because of not being in the gym world and half way accross the globe. But still, everything you said was so well synthesized and I still believe, depending on the goal of the athlete, it may always be good to be multidisciplinary and try to incorporate calisthenic/gymnastic handstand pushups for gaining ease and evolving quickly on the overhead press, as it makes you very aware and coordinated throughout the movement and incentivizes the core engagement a lot, helping with balance and stability for a better execution and neuromuscular integration. Very nice job and keep up the good work!
Yes this is the whole heart of the video it’s troubleshooting why someone hasn’t reached this milestone, anyone can achieve a 70kg overhead press, but most people I’ve seen IRL struggle beyond 40kg. Just doing a press with good technique and incorporating a variation should be enough for anyone. A 70kg ohp should be thought of in the same level as a 100kg bench, quite an achievable goal but I find the common perception to be that it’s thought of as more advanced than it actually is.
it's all relative. It's pretty good for someone that gyms imo. I think a 70kg overhead press is better than 99% of people at most gyms. it's still a year or three of hard work for most people depending where they start and their bodyweight. i started at an empty bar with overhead press 6-7 years ago. and i think 97.5kg with 100kg 1/2 locked out is the best i've hit. granted i don't really train the lift that much
@@Pastapillow I will agree bodyweight does play a massive part in strength performance, a 60 kg male pressing 70kg is a different feat than a 110kg male pressing 70kg .I’ll be the first to admit that gaining weight is imperative to performance and holding back to keep impressive bodyweight ratios hampers progress.
As the fellow already mentioned. Handstand push-ups will blow your overhead press up. Do them against a wooden door in a pair of socks. You will get a great slide going thanks to the socks on your feet. Daft but a top tip. The overhead press wa the lift until the bench press came along. The author Brooks Kubik found the lifting journals of a YMCA gym in the Bronx from the 1930s. Every lifter had at least a bodyweight overhead press and some guys had 160% bodyweight overhead presses. It used to be contested as an Olympic lift but was removed.
@@kevinhalligan5078 Definitely worth a try, I do wonder however if it’s a chicken or the egg type of question. Was the handstand push up a preferred accessory because options for accessory lifts were more limited compared to our modern day selection ? Were the results from that gym so much higher because lifting was a more niche culture with a much bigger pressing focus? However I love to look to the past for lifting wisdom and I absolutely think you shouldn’t knock something before you try it. I’ll definitely try this and record my results 💪
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Never done gym and (and mainly so) I don't know if you're talking about pressing 70kg on overhead press like lifting 70kg up or like most times I see lifters saying they, for instance, bench 40kg they actually mean more like bench 40+9+40 so almost 90kg, but my main training for shoulders were freestanding handstand pushups. Like I'm 70kg now and I can do deep handstand pushups shoulder to the bar so if we consider the arms not being fully loaded on the shoulder but on the ground/bar I'd be pressing about 60-65kg on that for about 10-15 reps a set. But possibly when you say 70kg in practicallity you refer to 150kg with the sum of all weights so I'm waaay below, and I'm not able to figure that out because of not being in the gym world and half way accross the globe. But still, everything you said was so well synthesized and I still believe, depending on the goal of the athlete, it may always be good to be multidisciplinary and try to incorporate calisthenic/gymnastic handstand pushups for gaining ease and evolving quickly on the overhead press, as it makes you very aware and coordinated throughout the movement and incentivizes the core engagement a lot, helping with balance and stability for a better execution and neuromuscular integration. Very nice job and keep up the good work!
A 70kg OHP is 70kg. The bar weighs 20, a twenty plate on each end and a five plate on each end.
Thanks for your comment, as mentioned above it’s 70kg, I think a mix of weights and callisthenics is a perfect combo for overall development
A 70kg overhead press ain't that difficult to achieve
Um, yes, if those 70 kg represent 1.15 times your body weight, it's actually pretty fucking difficult.
Yes this is the whole heart of the video it’s troubleshooting why someone hasn’t reached this milestone, anyone can achieve a 70kg overhead press, but most people I’ve seen IRL struggle beyond 40kg. Just doing a press with good technique and incorporating a variation should be enough for anyone. A 70kg ohp should be thought of in the same level as a 100kg bench, quite an achievable goal but I find the common perception to be that it’s thought of as more advanced than it actually is.
it's all relative. It's pretty good for someone that gyms imo.
I think a 70kg overhead press is better than 99% of people at most gyms. it's still a year or three of hard work for most people depending where they start and their bodyweight.
i started at an empty bar with overhead press 6-7 years ago. and i think 97.5kg with 100kg 1/2 locked out is the best i've hit. granted i don't really train the lift that much
@@Pastapillow 100kg js impressive 70 is not
@@Pastapillow I will agree bodyweight does play a massive part in strength performance, a 60 kg male pressing 70kg is a different feat than a 110kg male pressing 70kg .I’ll be the first to admit that gaining weight is imperative to performance and holding back to keep impressive bodyweight ratios hampers progress.