I used to not like the Strix lineup aswell, thought it was "too much". I went to the store and found one to try and the "touch&feel" is amazing. It is plastic but it feels damn great, also the touchpad and the keyboard are extremely precise. First hand experience differs immensely from what you see on a screen.
I'm pretty much the same. The Amazon page makes it look so ugly and garish, but I decided to pick it due to the very high CPU power (normal Strix, not Scar version). I was pleasantly surprised by how it actually feels and looks. When you turn off all the LEDs, the only part that really screams "gamer" is the ROG slash on the keyboard deck
I own Legion 9i and it has an amazing screen. I spent a lot of time to choose a laptop at the beginning of the year, choosing between razor and legion 9i and went with lenovo...
@@NotebookcheckReviews more comfortable power connection (on the back), better lighting, better cooling (more space inside + water pump), better keyboard (numpad) for coding, LAN port, back port's lighting
Asus Strix performance seems amazing but the build quality doesnt look premium at all. Lenovo's pro 7 with 4080 must be the most balanced choice. Awesome comparison my friend, thank you so much!
You are more than welcome! And yes, the Legion pro 7 is almost a "no-brainer" when looking for a high-end performance laptop, but that MiniLED in the Scar :O
@@NotebookcheckReviews man, exactly, the mini led makes me want the scar but i dont like it's chassi at all, that eye logo on the lid, the led stripe on the back, looks too gaming for me. As you said, it's time for a zephyrus pro or something like it.
@@areta-r Once you go mini-led, you can't go back. I have the 4080 legion pro 7 as well as Scar 16/18, and hands-down the mini-led is just ridiculous. The chassis on Scar looks cheap but it's well built and I've had no issues with it. It's so hard to use my legion pro 7i as a laptop now, so I hooked it up as my 2nd desktop machine to my alienware 34" oled. Seriously, once you go mini-led or a good oled, you can't go back. I can't wait until they start making tandem oleds more common in gaming laptops because that would solve the brightness issue (I think HP has one out this year but its not really a great gaming laptop). My 11" iPad with the tandem oled brightness is just amazing.
Bruh. Not including Zephyrus g16 in this comparison is straight up criminal. That thing is absolutely incredible, I've just purchased the 4080 version and it might be the most perfect 16 inch laptop I've ever known.
I gave my reasoning for it; it would have been completely destroyed in this comparison. The G16 has a different focus and target audience, in my opinion. But it is a beautiful laptop, and if you are happy with it, even better! :)
@@NotebookcheckReviews Agreed. The G16 just compromises too much performance (very low TGP for their 4080/4090 variants) if that is a key factor in your purchasing decision. It is a GREAT laptop, just not in the performance department. However for travel which I do quite a bit, I did buy this year's G14 as its super portable and light weight at just 3.3lbs and I was ok giving up some performance for that portability but overall GREAT package laptop (OLED is wonderful, the audio on the G14 is amazing, and for gaming, gotta have gsync which this is one of the ONLY oled laptops that supports it and it works wondefully).
@@matthoppa1840 I agree that G16 compromises performance, and this is exactly why I would want it to be included in the review: to see how much performance is compromised to get how much more portability and battery life.
@@aras_aras_aras_aras The way I see it is that the point of gaming laptops is to get the best performance with a sacrifice in weight, size, and battery life. The G16 doesn't really sit up here with the rest because it's not fully focused on performance. In other words, if you think high-end gaming laptop, your number one factor will be having the high-end performance which the G16 doesn't have. Don't get me wrong even a 100 W 4090 will destroy most laptops, but it still is a significant margin behind the ones in this video.
You mentioned that you like SCARs Balanced mode fan noise but according to review on your site Balanced mode on this laptop is one of the noisiest (simply in terms of Decibels) - or am I missing something? Which notebook has in your opinion best tuned balanced mode (i.e. good performance vs fan noise)? From sound samples it seems like Legion Pro 7… Thank you
Silent on Scar is compareable to other Balance modes performance wise. Performance/Balance is like Turbo. It can max out at around 53 db, but is mostly hovering at around 50 or a bit below on Performance.
To be honest, it was flying a little under my radar. We only tested the Neo 16, which maxes out with a 4070. I will look into it. Maybe it makes sense to test the "proper" Helios 16 as well! Thanks for mentioning it!
will intell or amd launch powerhouse cpu like 14900hx. not just the power efficient like the lunar lake which is only made for normal use.. or they have stopped making powerfull cpus anymore?
I absolutely love my 16 Legion Slim 7i 13th Gen i9-13900H upgraded to 32GB ram and second NVME drive. It does everything I need and is a little lighter and smaller to carry
Tough choice, probably with the scar, to be honest. It doesn't look as good, but it is the more well-rounded package. Especially the 4080 model is also on sale quite often.
Question regarding the Scar 16. Let's say with HDR OFF you set your screen brightness to something low like 20, now when you turn HDR ON, is there a bug where it suddenly sets your screen brightness to something high around 65 (check in system tray)? Please let me know.
@@NotebookcheckReviews If you set "Optimus mode" in Nvidia control panel, and then set brightness to 20, then switch to "Nvidia GPU only", does it also set the screen brightness to 65? Try this after a reboot, because it only happens the first time after each reboot. On the second time onwards, it remembers the brightness.
Only in very, very CPU-bound titles, and your mileage may very here. Might as well be that the ROG with the 4080 is able to move a few watts over to the CPU in such scenarios.
Yep, it sometimes does wonky stuff. For the Alienware, it's better to just leave it on balanced and be done with it. Just keep in mind that it is just one game, and wattages will vary greatly depending on the use case.
@@NotebookcheckReviews 1k dollars is the budget line for most. Maybe you could even use older laptops or particularly strong office laptops with good igpus there. 1500 dollars is the midrange. For both I would keep current deals on 2023 models in mind because they have the same chips anyway
Why would they waste so many Watts on 13/14 gen HX chips vs way lower wattage and better performing 7800x3D...? Doesn't make any sense. These are gaming laptops, not content creator or rendering laptops.
I would argue that these are not "only" gaming Laptops. And there is only the 7945HX3D for laptops, and you can only kind of get it in a single laptop ...
Correct, every reviewer should be criticizing these companies for not releasing more AMD options since until has not been relevant in the market for a handful of years for mobile use. Thankfully that changed this year with their actually efficient core Ultra series 2, but I'm not sure those are going to be top of the line for gaming.
@@stevenswall I think it was confirmed that Intel won't use these in gaming laptops and is planning to launch another architecture for gaming laptops specifically. Also people in the industry say that and is not a very cooperative company, which is why only Asus has made stuff with it and Lenovo a bit
I am not sure if the laptop OEMs are at fault here. I think there are a lot more factors at play than you might imagine. AMD might be unable to deliver these chips in the quantities needed for manufacturers to bet on complete line-ups. It might also be that AMD laptops simply do not sell as well ...
I’m torn between the G16 with a 4090 and the ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 17 X3D also with a 4090 right now they are the exact same price. I could also get the G 14 2023 with a RTX 4080 and a mini LED display for $300 less. Any thoughts?
@@oriontechtips1980 depends. The strix 17 is massive, if you don't move the laptop around much it will demolish both of the others. Big screen should make it more comfortable as well. Has a numpad The g14 is the smallest and has the smallest screen. If you really want to move it around and then are planning on using an external monitor, maybe a keyboard when home it is best. G16 if you want to carry it around somewhat, don't want an external monitor and are okay with it's memory config (only one with no sodium slots). The g16 also seems to have the best speakers and. Stuff like that if you are used to MacBooks. Overall a hard choice. Really depends on what your plans are.
@@Havanu81 I disagree. Every person has their own weight and size requirements and can give up different things to get there. The g16 is very thin, to achieve that they had to solder the ram (I don't like that) and heavily limit the power of the 4080 and 4090 versions. All of the internal space of a 16 inch monitor is used for a 2nd m.2 slot and big speakers. As a headphone user and someone who wants an Ethernet port and like to keep tech running for as long as possible this is a combination of poor choices. There can never be a perfect laptop. Large screens, big battery, high powered quiet cooling, big speakers, big ports-all of them come at a cost of the size and weight of a laptop. Some people want all of these features and only transport the laptop from desk to desk or by car. Others want something absolutely tiny they can balance on one hand for minutes at a time and do not care about gaming or other comforts. This makes the laptop market exiting, but also means that your ideal laptop might be a very expensive model or one that does not even exist. I was personally looking for an egpu laptop with upgradable ram, zen5 CPU with lots of power, a glass trackpad for longevity and a fast port to connect the GPU, ideally in a small 14 inch size. I don't think that laptop exists. I may have to buy arrow lake, get by with the igpu and build a PC later or buy another laptop with a newer GPU.
@@davitdavid7165 wow thank you for your response. This was very informative. I am a student so I do take my laptop around if I go with the scar 17 I could put it in a backpack with wheels to lighten the load, but there’s no denying it is the heaviest out of the three laptops in terms of your comment about the G 14. I do have an external monitor keyboard and mouse that I use at home, however I am still using my laptop often in class, at the library, in the coffee shop, the train, at hotels, and at friends houses, etc. where I don’t have access to those peripherals. I do think the G 16 would be a good sweet spot but the fact that it only comes with 32 GB of non-upgradable ram stings a little bit if they offered a 64 GB model I would feel a lot more comfortable buying it because I want my laptop to last for a long time.
I still love the G14 for its super sleek size and performance package, and that display is simply amazing. It does get quite hot and loud in its higher performance modes, though. So that is definitely a compromise, but it should fit your desired use case quite well!
That really depends. Do you need a laptop now? Then I would say it's a great time to buy one right now since there will most likely be a lot of sales in the next weeks/months. Can you wait for February/March 2025 and want the latest and greatest, and are you willing to pay a premium for new hardware? Well, then, you might want to wait!
@@NotebookcheckReviews thanks for the reply but will rtx 50 series laptop GPU worth the wait and worth the pay I mean to say that will there be a massive change that is worth the wait from my side of country that is India prices of laptop like zephyrus or legion 7i will not change much even though there is sale they will sell at their mrp only
Hi if you want't to know the factory design CPU and GPU performance, just run Prime95 and Furmark as single load, and run both the app together, and you can find out the design power consumption target on CPU and GPU and Concurrency, oh and make sure your enviorement temperature is below 28C.
I have a lenovo 9i and can recommend it highly; i also think lenovo in general are high quality nb BUT why would you buy a gaming laptop now when the rtx 5000 releases early next year AND also wait for wifi 7 included in your nb's!
@@nemesis7884 wifi 7 cards cost 15 bucks and are easy to install. This is only a big issue if you are too scared to open your laptop or it's soldered, neither applies to this class of laptop and it's typical user
I'm not sure about his testing, but in my daily use case I easily achieve 5-6 hours of web surfing and 7-8 hours of video play back on my x16 r2 with exact same specs only difference being the storage. No sure how he tested it but I even get at least 1 hour 10 min battery while running forza Horizon 5 on max settings too while getting a solid 50fps. with the next ultra CPU, it also runs super cool and quiet too and fans are mostly off from what I have noticed while doing basic task such as web surfing, I have made a review video on the laptop on my channel aswell. What settings did you use while doing a battery test on the Alienware?
@NotebookcheckReviews half screen brightness, and just left it on a youtube video with no Windows power saver, and for web browsing, I just did actual work on google chrome and got those numbers.
Why are all of them, except the Alienware, black? Aside of the fact that some people prefer a different color, the black is also - in the vast majority of cases - so finger-printy that I'm sure CSI teams love it.
At the end of the video you mentioned that you would like a zephyrus pro but don't we already have that with the p16? If I recall correctly the only issue with the p16 is its low rephresh rate but I'm wondering if its such a big deal breaker (the only high refresh rate screen I experienced is 120hz on my phone)? Besides I would argue that the g16 already looks stealthy enough. Anyways if I would be able to buy a laptop I would choose the zephyrus g16.
Thanks for watching. I did our noise sample both in performance mode and turbo. I personally would not go beyond performance to be honest, since it already gets around 155W to the GPU ...
I bought Scar 16 2023 model without mini led which is good enough with RTX 4080 and i9 which have big promotion from Asus. Worth it. Only thing is you need to repaste it almost 90% of 2023 models are bad paste and liquid metal are not on the chip but all over the places.
@@NotebookcheckReviews CPU is 95'C almost every time when playing fortnite and valorent but GPU sit arround 85'C. Cinebench R23 score is around 27500 on turbo mode even with Bios -80 undervolt. No issue playing games but a bit hot and minor lag. After repaste with same thermal grizzly conductonaut extreme, CPU sit around 89-91'C and GPU is 75'C while gaming with balance mode. Cinebench score is up to 31800 on turbo with 10mins test. That's a big diff huh. After that -110 undervolt + cooling pad even go up to 34000 CB score.
Ivs got the legion 7i pro with the 4080 and 14900hx . I've thrown everything at it and runs it all but thank god for Dlss and FG . Only issue I would say is the CPU gets hella hot other than that absolutely love it. Great vid mate 🔥
@@wozzielfc401 copy the performance profile and then adjust the fan curve to be more extreme, also lower the cpu long term power limit to 100 instead of 125
Might dabble a little with those custom profiles and might make a new balanced profile with higher TGP for the GPU. I was thinking 120/140W while keeping the CPU a bit more restrained.
Great video! I was surprised by how badly the Ultra 9 CPU handicapped the x16, and also in battery life?? Must be some really unoptimised drivers and power profiles. A MiniLED panel is definitely going to make me look at the Legion 9 over the Pro 7. Althuogh I'm biased having a MiniLED panel myself on my Yoga Pro 9i 16. Great look at the high end, unattainable Porsche class laptops.
Those MiniLEDs are so good. I am torn between the Legion 7i and Yoga Pro 9i myself. Same price but the Legion has more CPU and GPU power. The Yoga has that MiniLED touchscreen I really want. So confusing
@@_shreyash_anand The Legion is more powerful and you can hook it up to an expensive monitor if needed. The Yoga has an insane screen and crazy good speakers and is really thin and premium. But, if you're buying it primarily as a gaming device I would go Legion.
Yes, seeing the numbers actually surprised me as well. I am daily driving the Pro 7 right now, and while I think it is an amazing performance machine I sure miss a MiniLED or OLED.
I'm not sure about his testing, but in my daily use case I easily achieve 5-6 hours of web surfing and 7-8 hours of video play back on my x16 r2 with exact same specs only difference being the storage. No sure how he tested it but I even get at least 1 hour 10 min battery while running forza Horizon 5 on max settings too while getting a solid 50fps. with the next ultra CPU, it also runs super cool and quiet too and fans are mostly off from what I have noticed while doing basic task such as web surfing, I have made a review video on the laptop on my channel aswell.
@@revenantwolzart if a pc is just not mobile enough I can see these being useful, especially if you have a lot of money to spare. I do think that making laptops more upgradable would make these much more viable as well
You'd be crazy to buy a gaming laptop costing this much less than 3 months away from the new 50xx GPU equipped models being unveiled at CES 2025 in January...IMO (unless they get too good to miss sale discounts) ..And seriously, Alienware, you can't be putting such 3rd rate screens on your premium offerings, its an instant no sale for me as long as you keep doing it.
Maybe, but consider that you will find a lot of these on sale in the weeks/months to come and that even if new stuff is announced at CES, who knows when it will hit the market. Agreed, on the display situation with the X16, that said not everyone needs the brightest screen, and apart from that, its not a bad screen per se. And you can usually find it for a lot less than the other options, so I guess it is the good old pick your poison!
@@Dr.D00p Being unveiled at CES is not the same as being available for purchase. In my country and presumably many others, laptops with new GPUs ain't releasing till March or April next year. Ain't nobody got the patience to wait that long lol.
The laptops right now are on sale (to clear out the inventory for the new stuff coming Q1 next year). If you NEED a laptop its a great time to buy as most of the modern performant (gaming/creator) laptops will easily handle all your daily tasks. Sure the new stuff will be faster (how much we don't know as we won't know how badly Nvidia handicaps their 50 series mobile gpus until they get benched) but you can't go wrong with a modern 40 series laptop for nearly everything people use them for today.
Going from last time, it took around 6 months+ for laptop GPUs to be available, its likely that 2025 machines at CES will still have 40-series GPUs since NVIDIA has made no moves to release 50-series yet (the 4090 was already announced in 22’ for over a month at this point + also out for a week+) It looks like the top end 50-series GPUs will come out at CES perhaps.
This basically. Fastest for us that CES announced laptop would availabd for purchase would be 3 months after. Already bought a 2023 Strix G16 as i am not comfortable throwing more than 3000 usd 😢@@anujpartihar
Good, but Ryzen wipes the floor with all these, and removing Windows 11 gains even more performance ;) Forget Intel now. New laptop, best to remove whole drive, then insert your type, install OS of choice :) Don't even turn the thing on before doing so, keep that safe somewhere, in case MS 'allows' you to upgrade to Windows 13, by which, they may have seen sense by then?
Is is just me or every laptop uses intel?? I literally cannot buy a non intel laptop. Already bought a Stric G16 but part of me i wish there was atleast a Ryzen competition
I have the Strix G16 (i7 13650HX + 4060) and it is such a joy to use. Personally I would've preferred a 1440p panel but the 1080p is workable. Also would've preferred a numpad too with per key rgb but 4 zone is the next best thing. AND I CAN RUN CYBERPUNK ON RT OVERDRIVE tho with a bit of frame dips, how cool is that! I imagine the larger screen on your G18 must be a joy to use, feels like 18" gives you the proper desktop vibe, and with the numpad too.
My gamining laptop choise are lenovo yoga pro 9i, core ultra 9 and rtx 4060(was aiming for 4070) but could not find in my country), beutifull mini led display, overall build and footprint are great, and its fan noise exelent for powerfull laptop. Loosing probably like 20% FPS compared to similar piced gaming laptopts, but hell its. Worth it
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 mine is 16inch, was considering G16 , but i had only 2options in my country 4060 with 16gb of ram and lower tier cpu for almost 2.3k(sorry but who the hell specs laptops for that prices with soldered 16gb ram) or one with 4080 for 3.5k which just too expensive for me. And G16 even louder coz form factor slightly lighter ans 1mm thinner, Mine Yoga cost 2k which is alot, like i could get other "gaming" laptops with 4070 for that price or even a bit cheaper
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 well it have gaming Gpu with 100W power which is basical max for 4060, it have great Cpu and it have fast refresh screen, It only miss three thing: RGB, cheap plastic smell and aircraft noises :D
@@NotebookcheckReviews i feel like its more efficient in term of battery usage overall and tends to last longer in term of overall daily use and also for long term use like maybe 5 years and above... i mean it even shows in benchmark that intel is lagging behind apples processer and amd right....also i agree that zephyrus isnt able to fully utilise the gpu sinces its cap at 90w even if its 4080/4090 hence why i went with the 4050 90w version instead with 32gb to maximise the cost ratio when i purchase it
@@lov.2.g Not when you're talking about high-end laptops, Intel actually has better battery life. But for the lower end H-series AMD is the easy choice.
Unfortunately, it is not as black and white as you might think. We had many Intel laptops offering better battery life than AMD-powered ones once. It is not only a question of the CPU. As was said, there are simply no new laptops with AMD HX CPUs, and the one that did come out in 2023 had terrible battery life!
Unfortunately many of those have just 8 GB VRAM even at higher price points. This is a rip off and should not be endorsed. 8 GB is already tight even at 1440p and decent settings, some titles get fps drops over time even at 1080p. This will be even worse in the future. Do NOT buy 8 GB VRAM laptops especially because you can't upgrade it. Also sucks for AI workloads.
That's actually not true, I was only talking about 4080 and 4090 configs in this video ... So maybe you should have watched it before writing your comments.
Nice review, I was expecting to see the acer predator 16 inch laptop with a 4080 in this comparison. But that's fine. Please make sure to include the Predator 18 inch with the 4090 in the next 18 inch gaming laptop comparison. I look forward to know if its worth buying the same. Thanks.
Yeah, somebody else already mentioned it. Truth to be told, it was completely flying under my radar. But we have a review unit coming! ;) Noted, about the Helios 18. If you can not wait, we already reviewed it on the website: www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Predator-Helios-18-2024-laptop-review-New-hardware-for-the-18-inch-gamer.808564.0.html
If i have to take one to college for hardcore development and some nice games, which one would you recommend the blade 16 or new g16. I really value build quality as i wanted a mac but i realised i need some gaming during 5 years. Btw yes its going to be my only device aka desktop replacement
The Blade 16 has the edge in terms of build quality (much stronger hinges) and performance, but it is also thicker and heavier. So you would have to decide how much you value portability!
@@Vedanth_Kumar_453 honestly you could probably go with something with a touchscreen and a good igpu. A sa collage student I will tell you that matters more than performance for note taking and such. The blade has upgradable ram while the g16 does not. If you can't find one with 32 gigs you like (or maybe want even more) I would go with the blade. You did omit the legion 7. Also full aluminum build, doesn't look as macbooky though. Does also have upgradable ram. It is thicker, but not much heavier. I would also consider a 14 inch of some kind, maybe one from the compact video they made. You can use an external monitor for really hardcore gaming and productivity
@NotebookcheckReviews I'm fine the loss in portability but tell me, is the loss in battery life in the blade that much of a difference or do u think if u were in my situation u wouldn't mind too much. Considering I have a bag big enough to carry 16 and my school bag is generally much heavier
Having had the Blade 16 24’ & Zephyrus G16 (Intel) the battery life is pretty bad with the Razer, the Intel G16 leaves it for dust and the AMD variant is probably 2x-3x+ the battery life of the Blade 16 (at least doing basic tasks, all of them on battery whilst gaming will net you the same. The problem with Razer though is their woeful support and now dropping RazerCare in Europe means you will be left to 24hr+ waits for replies for support tickets which i think is unacceptable for a top of the line laptop.
@MartinGod3992 do you ever had support issues with Razer? @Vedanth_kumar_453 we tested allmost all SKUs of the G16 next to the Blade 16, if you want to read into them: www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G16-2024-review-The-gaming-laptop-now-with-G-Sync-OLED-and-Intel-Meteor-Lake.800175.0.html www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G16-laptop-review-A-slim-gamer-with-an-RTX-4090-and-unfulfilled-potential.862201.0.html www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G16-2024-review-The-slim-gaming-laptop-now-with-AMD-Zen-5.877382.0.html
@@NotebookcheckReviews My Intel 10th generation Razer 15 Advanced has now slowed to a crawl and should be replaced SOON; is it 'safe' to buy one of the Intel models you reviewed herein? Please compare the list of Intel processors which have had degradation issues to the Intel processors contained in these just reviewed laptops. Nomenclature of Intel CPU names still has me confused as to which to avoid. Thank you.
Love this comparisson! I own a legion pro 7 and I can take it anywhere without it screaming "gamer", but I like the lenovo legion 9 better. I am very excited about the upcoming laptops for 2025 and the new generation of Nvidia graphics cards. I hope they aim to play 4k with decent/high refresh rates
@@NotebookcheckReviews yes but i cant wait... and bought it today... with 4090 maxed out, i think its not such big deal, mostly i concerned more about PWM of panels... there are some really bad OLEDs on market, same as cheap miniLEDs
Hands down the best laptop reviews on TH-cam.
Super comprehensive.
And you don't have an annoying voice like some/most other reviewers...
Agree I can't stand how that Jarrod guy sounds
Thanks @HuwRees! But there are a lot of great reviewers out there.
That Jarrod guy does some pretty in-depth videos as well! ;)
@@JarrodsTech for real, Jarrod gets on my nerves with his helpful tips and buying guides. How dare he be so helpful
@@JarrodsTech😂
I used to not like the Strix lineup aswell, thought it was "too much".
I went to the store and found one to try and the "touch&feel" is amazing. It is plastic but it feels damn great, also the touchpad and the keyboard are extremely precise. First hand experience differs immensely from what you see on a screen.
Definitely, its appearance does not tell the whole story since the user experience is on point!
I'm pretty much the same. The Amazon page makes it look so ugly and garish, but I decided to pick it due to the very high CPU power (normal Strix, not Scar version). I was pleasantly surprised by how it actually feels and looks. When you turn off all the LEDs, the only part that really screams "gamer" is the ROG slash on the keyboard deck
I own Legion 9i and it has an amazing screen. I spent a lot of time to choose a laptop at the beginning of the year, choosing between razor and legion 9i and went with lenovo...
What made you go for the Legion instead of the Razer?
@@NotebookcheckReviews more comfortable power connection (on the back), better lighting, better cooling (more space inside + water pump), better keyboard (numpad) for coding, LAN port, back port's lighting
After havinh had 14, 15 and 17 inch laptops I do think 16 inch is the absolute sweetspot between desktop replacement and portability
Same screen ratio? Did you know that a 16:10 (eg) 15" screen is bigger than a 15" 16:9 screen?
I thought so too, but I am currently in love with the Strix scar 18. It's a monster but I think it's still acceptable to take around
True, and I also love 18" to be honest!
Suggestion: It would be great if you could put up a graphic stating the name of the game when it appears on screen.
Good idea. Will see if I can incorporate it into future videos!
Hey, there is a Yoga Pro 7i but it seems only available in Europe. It has all the specs same as Yoga Pro 9i but just 14" Can you check it ?
I'm so happy with my Aorus 17H that I bought in March 2023. i7 13700H, RTX 4080 and a 360Hz screen for $1400. Amazing deal I got
wow that’s a crazy deal, mind sharing the store deets to keep a look out for such deals in future?
A 4080 for $1400? :O Wow!
WHATT??? those crazy specs and only $1400? insane
The problem with that is its screen if full hd not qhd so you’ll have to buy another screen to connect it so you can enjoy 4080 full potentiol
@@jokerblahblah 1400 for that price full hd it is hahahha
Asus scar 18 seems to be the best imo just it never goes on sale while the legion has some really good sales at times.
Asus Strix performance seems amazing but the build quality doesnt look premium at all. Lenovo's pro 7 with 4080 must be the most balanced choice. Awesome comparison my friend, thank you so much!
You are more than welcome! And yes, the Legion pro 7 is almost a "no-brainer" when looking for a high-end performance laptop, but that MiniLED in the Scar :O
@@NotebookcheckReviews man, exactly, the mini led makes me want the scar but i dont like it's chassi at all, that eye logo on the lid, the led stripe on the back, looks too gaming for me. As you said, it's time for a zephyrus pro or something like it.
@@areta-r Once you go mini-led, you can't go back. I have the 4080 legion pro 7 as well as Scar 16/18, and hands-down the mini-led is just ridiculous. The chassis on Scar looks cheap but it's well built and I've had no issues with it.
It's so hard to use my legion pro 7i as a laptop now, so I hooked it up as my 2nd desktop machine to my alienware 34" oled. Seriously, once you go mini-led or a good oled, you can't go back. I can't wait until they start making tandem oleds more common in gaming laptops because that would solve the brightness issue (I think HP has one out this year but its not really a great gaming laptop). My 11" iPad with the tandem oled brightness is just amazing.
Hallo meine Frage ist welchen Laptop würde sie empfehlen? Welche Grösse ist am besten?
while a good lenovo laptop is hands down high quality, their quality control even on their premium line leaves more to be desired
What about the msi titan18 hx
I wanted to focus on 16" for this video. I might make a similar for the 18 Inchers soon!
You missed msi raider 4k mini led 4090
I wanted to focus on 16" for this video!
@@NotebookcheckReviews Ok my bad
Bruh. Not including Zephyrus g16 in this comparison is straight up criminal. That thing is absolutely incredible, I've just purchased the 4080 version and it might be the most perfect 16 inch laptop I've ever known.
I gave my reasoning for it; it would have been completely destroyed in this comparison.
The G16 has a different focus and target audience, in my opinion.
But it is a beautiful laptop, and if you are happy with it, even better! :)
@@NotebookcheckReviews Agreed. The G16 just compromises too much performance (very low TGP for their 4080/4090 variants) if that is a key factor in your purchasing decision. It is a GREAT laptop, just not in the performance department. However for travel which I do quite a bit, I did buy this year's G14 as its super portable and light weight at just 3.3lbs and I was ok giving up some performance for that portability but overall GREAT package laptop (OLED is wonderful, the audio on the G14 is amazing, and for gaming, gotta have gsync which this is one of the ONLY oled laptops that supports it and it works wondefully).
@@matthoppa1840 I agree that G16 compromises performance, and this is exactly why I would want it to be included in the review:
to see how much performance is compromised to get how much more portability and battery life.
@@aras_aras_aras_aras The way I see it is that the point of gaming laptops is to get the best performance with a sacrifice in weight, size, and battery life. The G16 doesn't really sit up here with the rest because it's not fully focused on performance. In other words, if you think high-end gaming laptop, your number one factor will be having the high-end performance which the G16 doesn't have. Don't get me wrong even a 100 W 4090 will destroy most laptops, but it still is a significant margin behind the ones in this video.
Lower powered 4080/4090. That thing would've gotten murdered in this list
You mentioned that you like SCARs Balanced mode fan noise but according to review on your site Balanced mode on this laptop is one of the noisiest (simply in terms of Decibels) - or am I missing something? Which notebook has in your opinion best tuned balanced mode (i.e. good performance vs fan noise)? From sound samples it seems like Legion Pro 7… Thank you
Silent on Scar is compareable to other Balance modes performance wise. Performance/Balance is like Turbo. It can max out at around 53 db, but is mostly hovering at around 50 or a bit below on Performance.
I know I sacrifice a small amount of performance (not so different on liquid metal).. but Razer Blades have always been my favorite.
They are quite unique for sure!
Best looking laptop by far. so minimalist
Can I know your reasons why you do not include Acer Predator Helios 16?
To be honest, it was flying a little under my radar. We only tested the Neo 16, which maxes out with a 4070. I will look into it. Maybe it makes sense to test the "proper" Helios 16 as well! Thanks for mentioning it!
I think the M3 max should get an honorable mention because using crossover, Cxpatcher and steam you can play many modern titles.
will intell or amd launch powerhouse cpu like 14900hx. not just the power efficient like the lunar lake which is only made for normal use.. or they have stopped making powerfull cpus anymore?
Probably around CES next year!
I absolutely love my 16 Legion Slim 7i 13th Gen i9-13900H upgraded to 32GB ram and second NVME drive. It does everything I need and is a little lighter and smaller to carry
Been a big fan of the 7is last year, and the 7 also did great this year!
Great review, honestly am questioning myself whether to go for the Legion 9i or the Asus scar 16..
What would you recommend?
Tough choice, probably with the scar, to be honest. It doesn't look as good, but it is the more well-rounded package. Especially the 4080 model is also on sale quite often.
Question regarding the Scar 16. Let's say with HDR OFF you set your screen brightness to something low like 20, now when you turn HDR ON, is there a bug where it suddenly sets your screen brightness to something high around 65 (check in system tray)? Please let me know.
Yepp, same behavior. You would have to reset brightness. Seems like 65% is just the default setting for HDR ...
@@NotebookcheckReviews If you set "Optimus mode" in Nvidia control panel, and then set brightness to 20, then switch to "Nvidia GPU only", does it also set the screen brightness to 65? Try this after a reboot, because it only happens the first time after each reboot. On the second time onwards, it remembers the brightness.
Why did you not include zephyrus duo16?🙂
2023 model! :)
Will you be working on the best 18-inch gaming laptop?
Still debating! ;)
how is it possible that the Scar 4080 have better FPS than the Scar 4090?
Only in very, very CPU-bound titles, and your mileage may very here. Might as well be that the ROG with the 4080 is able to move a few watts over to the CPU in such scenarios.
14:50, Alienware X16 (balanced mode): 50W+150W; 15:13, Alienware X16 (Performance mode): 45W+150W? Sorry what?
Yep, it sometimes does wonky stuff. For the Alienware, it's better to just leave it on balanced and be done with it.
Just keep in mind that it is just one game, and wattages will vary greatly depending on the use case.
@@NotebookcheckReviews balance is design as 45W CPU+150W GPU, performance 35w cpu +160w GPU, but in lot's of case GPU can't push that far.
What about 18 inch? I have 3k usd for one.
Coming soon! :)
Im sticking to my watercooled clevo with 10870h ( unlocked ) and 3060 115W
Sweet, loving the Oasis on the XMG!
@@NotebookcheckReviews I just custom made watercooling from msi aio 360 :) Oasis is good idea but still lacks in many ways.
Idk bout y'all, but my Omen 16 does one heck of a job
Awesome, we just found it a bit lacking compared to the laptops in this videos, which does not mean it is a bad notebook!
Neo 16. It is just absurdly powerful and doesn't even have a tiny trackpad like the legion or something
Maybe some cheaper options next?
I have no idea how they actually did it, to put that much performance in a still somewhat portable package. What would you consider "cheaper"?
@@NotebookcheckReviews 1k dollars is the budget line for most. Maybe you could even use older laptops or particularly strong office laptops with good igpus there.
1500 dollars is the midrange.
For both I would keep current deals on 2023 models in mind because they have the same chips anyway
Got ya, I will see if we can find the time! :)
Why would they waste so many Watts on 13/14 gen HX chips vs way lower wattage and better performing 7800x3D...? Doesn't make any sense. These are gaming laptops, not content creator or rendering laptops.
I would argue that these are not "only" gaming Laptops. And there is only the 7945HX3D for laptops, and you can only kind of get it in a single laptop ...
@@djayjp amd should have made more x3d laptops, I agree. For high performance on laptops the hx is kinda your only option, sadly
Correct, every reviewer should be criticizing these companies for not releasing more AMD options since until has not been relevant in the market for a handful of years for mobile use.
Thankfully that changed this year with their actually efficient core Ultra series 2, but I'm not sure those are going to be top of the line for gaming.
@@stevenswall I think it was confirmed that Intel won't use these in gaming laptops and is planning to launch another architecture for gaming laptops specifically.
Also people in the industry say that and is not a very cooperative company, which is why only Asus has made stuff with it and Lenovo a bit
I am not sure if the laptop OEMs are at fault here. I think there are a lot more factors at play than you might imagine.
AMD might be unable to deliver these chips in the quantities needed for manufacturers to bet on complete line-ups.
It might also be that AMD laptops simply do not sell as well ...
Could you pls do a review on the MSI Stealth 18 Mercedes Gaming Laptop?
Been trying to get a sample since forever!
I’m torn between the G16 with a 4090 and the ASUS ROG Strix SCAR 17 X3D also with a 4090 right now they are the exact same price. I could also get the G 14 2023 with a RTX 4080 and a mini LED display for $300 less. Any thoughts?
@@oriontechtips1980 depends. The strix 17 is massive, if you don't move the laptop around much it will demolish both of the others. Big screen should make it more comfortable as well. Has a numpad
The g14 is the smallest and has the smallest screen. If you really want to move it around and then are planning on using an external monitor, maybe a keyboard when home it is best.
G16 if you want to carry it around somewhat, don't want an external monitor and are okay with it's memory config (only one with no sodium slots). The g16 also seems to have the best speakers and. Stuff like that if you are used to MacBooks.
Overall a hard choice. Really depends on what your plans are.
@@davitdavid7165 G16 is the perfect compromise between power and portability. The other two are on opposite sides of the scale.
@@Havanu81 I disagree.
Every person has their own weight and size requirements and can give up different things to get there.
The g16 is very thin, to achieve that they had to solder the ram (I don't like that) and heavily limit the power of the 4080 and 4090 versions. All of the internal space of a 16 inch monitor is used for a 2nd m.2 slot and big speakers. As a headphone user and someone who wants an Ethernet port and like to keep tech running for as long as possible this is a combination of poor choices.
There can never be a perfect laptop. Large screens, big battery, high powered quiet cooling, big speakers, big ports-all of them come at a cost of the size and weight of a laptop.
Some people want all of these features and only transport the laptop from desk to desk or by car. Others want something absolutely tiny they can balance on one hand for minutes at a time and do not care about gaming or other comforts. This makes the laptop market exiting, but also means that your ideal laptop might be a very expensive model or one that does not even exist. I was personally looking for an egpu laptop with upgradable ram, zen5 CPU with lots of power, a glass trackpad for longevity and a fast port to connect the GPU, ideally in a small 14 inch size. I don't think that laptop exists. I may have to buy arrow lake, get by with the igpu and build a PC later or buy another laptop with a newer GPU.
@@davitdavid7165 wow thank you for your response. This was very informative. I am a student so I do take my laptop around if I go with the scar 17 I could put it in a backpack with wheels to lighten the load, but there’s no denying it is the heaviest out of the three laptops in terms of your comment about the G 14. I do have an external monitor keyboard and mouse that I use at home, however I am still using my laptop often in class, at the library, in the coffee shop, the train, at hotels, and at friends houses, etc. where I don’t have access to those peripherals. I do think the G 16 would be a good sweet spot but the fact that it only comes with 32 GB of non-upgradable ram stings a little bit if they offered a 64 GB model I would feel a lot more comfortable buying it because I want my laptop to last for a long time.
I still love the G14 for its super sleek size and performance package, and that display is simply amazing. It does get quite hot and loud in its higher performance modes, though. So that is definitely a compromise, but it should fit your desired use case quite well!
And I am willing to spend around 2000 dollars should get laptop right now or wait for the new rtx 50 series laptop gpus please do reply
That really depends. Do you need a laptop now? Then I would say it's a great time to buy one right now since there will most likely be a lot of sales in the next weeks/months.
Can you wait for February/March 2025 and want the latest and greatest, and are you willing to pay a premium for new hardware?
Well, then, you might want to wait!
@@NotebookcheckReviewsif I wanted to buy one now, what would you buy under 2500???
@@NotebookcheckReviews thanks for the reply but will rtx 50 series laptop GPU worth the wait and worth the pay I mean to say that will there be a massive change that is worth the wait from my side of country that is India prices of laptop like zephyrus or legion 7i will not change much even though there is sale they will sell at their mrp only
The Legion Pro 7 this year really has my heart. But I'll wait until next year.
What are you hoping for next year? Just new core components or anything in particular?
@@NotebookcheckReviews I hope for new core components.
Hey just loved your work but is it possible to get your side of view regarding the current situation of g16 zephyrus please
What would you like to know? We did this video recently:
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@@NotebookcheckReviews mostly the fan noise in rtx 4060 variant and heating issues of intel version
Hi if you want't to know the factory design CPU and GPU performance, just run Prime95 and Furmark as single load, and run both the app together, and you can find out the design power consumption target on CPU and GPU and Concurrency, oh and make sure your enviorement temperature is below 28C.
IMO, something "high-end" should be able to reach high-end specs, like 64GB RAM and more
Dell Outlet currently has a 10% off coupon for all Alienware laptops so you could grab the X16 R2 with RTX 4090 for as low as about $2200.
Yikes, you guys have some crazy over there!
I have a lenovo 9i and can recommend it highly; i also think lenovo in general are high quality nb BUT why would you buy a gaming laptop now when the rtx 5000 releases early next year AND also wait for wifi 7 included in your nb's!
@@nemesis7884 wifi 7 cards cost 15 bucks and are easy to install. This is only a big issue if you are too scared to open your laptop or it's soldered, neither applies to this class of laptop and it's typical user
Might not make sense for everyone to wait, and keep in mind not everyone owns a suitable router ....
Will there be a 18 inch comparison? I found that my eyes prefer larger screens after receiving my PhD degree this October.😂
It seems there is quite some interest in it, so yeah!
I'm not sure about his testing, but in my daily use case I easily achieve 5-6 hours of web surfing and 7-8 hours of video play back on my x16 r2 with exact same specs only difference being the storage. No sure how he tested it but I even get at least 1 hour 10 min battery while running forza Horizon 5 on max settings too while getting a solid 50fps. with the next ultra CPU, it also runs super cool and quiet too and fans are mostly off from what I have noticed while doing basic task such as web surfing, I have made a review video on the laptop on my channel aswell. What settings did you use while doing a battery test on the Alienware?
Interesting, we are using a custom script to simulate surfing the web and limit the display's brightness to 150 Nits.
How did you test it?
@NotebookcheckReviews half screen brightness, and just left it on a youtube video with no Windows power saver, and for web browsing, I just did actual work on google chrome and got those numbers.
I prepare legion 9 cuz their keyboard are amazing. I’m a gamer and a coder
Great video brother , question for you. If you had to go pick between Lenovo 9i or Razer 16 for gaming/editing, which one would you pick?
Where is MSI Titan 18 HX? 🤔
I was focusing on 16" laptops here.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Sorry. MSI Stealth 16? 😅
No chance on getting the 4080 or 4090 SKUs over here. And they are also kept at 100W for the GPUs ...
@@NotebookcheckReviews sure? My Stealth 18 have 140w 4070.
Ah well, you asked for the 16" tho ;)
Been trying to get my hands on a Stealth 18 since CES 2024 :D
Should've added MSI Raider GE68 HX to the comparison too
Hm, fair point. Unfortunately we did not test them in 2024.
Why are all of them, except the Alienware, black? Aside of the fact that some people prefer a different color, the black is also - in the vast majority of cases - so finger-printy that I'm sure CSI teams love it.
I am pretty sure that some sales data suggest that black and grey laptops sell better! :D
That said, the Blade is available in silver as well ...
At the end of the video you mentioned that you would like a zephyrus pro but don't we already have that with the p16? If I recall correctly the only issue with the p16 is its low rephresh rate but I'm wondering if its such a big deal breaker (the only high refresh rate screen I experienced is 120hz on my phone)? Besides I would argue that the g16 already looks stealthy enough. Anyways if I would be able to buy a laptop I would choose the zephyrus g16.
Yeah, you are kind of right. But the G16/P16's thin chassis cannot accommodate higher-wattage GPUs.
I have the strix 1600p 4090 version and it's absolutely amazing
Nice video! By the way, the Strix is much quieter in Performance mode, with almost the same performance!
Thanks for watching. I did our noise sample both in performance mode and turbo.
I personally would not go beyond performance to be honest, since it already gets around 155W to the GPU ...
I bought Scar 16 2023 model without mini led which is good enough with RTX 4080 and i9 which have big promotion from Asus. Worth it. Only thing is you need to repaste it almost 90% of 2023 models are bad paste and liquid metal are not on the chip but all over the places.
Did you have bad thermals?
@@NotebookcheckReviews CPU is 95'C almost every time when playing fortnite and valorent but GPU sit arround 85'C. Cinebench R23 score is around 27500 on turbo mode even with Bios -80 undervolt. No issue playing games but a bit hot and minor lag. After repaste with same thermal grizzly conductonaut extreme, CPU sit around 89-91'C and GPU is 75'C while gaming with balance mode. Cinebench score is up to 31800 on turbo with 10mins test. That's a big diff huh. After that -110 undervolt + cooling pad even go up to 34000 CB score.
Great review
Thanks for watching!
Ivs got the legion 7i pro with the 4080 and 14900hx . I've thrown everything at it and runs it all but thank god for Dlss and FG . Only issue I would say is the CPU gets hella hot other than that absolutely love it. Great vid mate 🔥
yeah i got mine with a 4090 and the same cpu, i run it in custom mode to keep the temps low
@shocknaw you got a good profile ? Or somewhere to find a good setting.
@@wozzielfc401 copy the performance profile and then adjust the fan curve to be more extreme, also lower the cpu long term power limit to 100 instead of 125
Might dabble a little with those custom profiles and might make a new balanced profile with higher TGP for the GPU. I was thinking 120/140W while keeping the CPU a bit more restrained.
@@NotebookcheckReviews make the GPU 150 with 15 watts of dynamic boost, keep the CPU at 80-100 instead of performance modes 125
Great video! I was surprised by how badly the Ultra 9 CPU handicapped the x16, and also in battery life?? Must be some really unoptimised drivers and power profiles. A MiniLED panel is definitely going to make me look at the Legion 9 over the Pro 7. Althuogh I'm biased having a MiniLED panel myself on my Yoga Pro 9i 16. Great look at the high end, unattainable Porsche class laptops.
Those MiniLEDs are so good. I am torn between the Legion 7i and Yoga Pro 9i myself. Same price but the Legion has more CPU and GPU power. The Yoga has that MiniLED touchscreen I really want. So confusing
@@_shreyash_anand The Legion is more powerful and you can hook it up to an expensive monitor if needed. The Yoga has an insane screen and crazy good speakers and is really thin and premium. But, if you're buying it primarily as a gaming device I would go Legion.
Yes, seeing the numbers actually surprised me as well.
I am daily driving the Pro 7 right now, and while I think it is an amazing performance machine I sure miss a MiniLED or OLED.
I'm not sure about his testing, but in my daily use case I easily achieve 5-6 hours of web surfing and 7-8 hours of video play back on my x16 r2 with exact same specs only difference being the storage. No sure how he tested it but I even get at least 1 hour 10 min battery while running forza Horizon 5 on max settings too while getting a solid 50fps. with the next ultra CPU, it also runs super cool and quiet too and fans are mostly off from what I have noticed while doing basic task such as web surfing, I have made a review video on the laptop on my channel aswell.
wait 5090 coming out in a few months and new cpus also
Yes, "in a few months" :D
Not everyone wants to wait, and launch prices might also be crazy!
Oh yeah, the thor hammer that I definetly need to drive a toothpick in cake!
Wait, what? :D
@@NotebookcheckReviews I mean these all are overkill, pocket bleeding laptops
@@revenantwolzart if a pc is just not mobile enough I can see these being useful, especially if you have a lot of money to spare. I do think that making laptops more upgradable would make these much more viable as well
Oh definitly, they do not really represent the "sensible" choice ;)
Should've covered 18" laptops.
Kind of already working on it!
XMG (Eluktronics) liquid cooled is the best
Вот бы ещё показывали температуры gpu hotspot и vram
There is only so much we can put in a single video! :)
For me blade no questions ask
My dear brethren would anyone be so kind and tell me what game my guy here 3:14 is playing, please.
That would be Final Fantasy 16!
Envying😂 Is there any chance I can “work” for you by using the laptop for you and providing feedbacks😂
Haha, do not underestimate how much goes into testing these laptops ;)
You'd be crazy to buy a gaming laptop costing this much less than 3 months away from the new 50xx GPU equipped models being unveiled at CES 2025 in January...IMO (unless they get too good to miss sale discounts)
..And seriously, Alienware, you can't be putting such 3rd rate screens on your premium offerings, its an instant no sale for me as long as you keep doing it.
Maybe, but consider that you will find a lot of these on sale in the weeks/months to come and that even if new stuff is announced at CES, who knows when it will hit the market.
Agreed, on the display situation with the X16, that said not everyone needs the brightest screen, and apart from that, its not a bad screen per se.
And you can usually find it for a lot less than the other options, so I guess it is the good old pick your poison!
@@Dr.D00p Being unveiled at CES is not the same as being available for purchase. In my country and presumably many others, laptops with new GPUs ain't releasing till March or April next year. Ain't nobody got the patience to wait that long lol.
The laptops right now are on sale (to clear out the inventory for the new stuff coming Q1 next year). If you NEED a laptop its a great time to buy as most of the modern performant (gaming/creator) laptops will easily handle all your daily tasks. Sure the new stuff will be faster (how much we don't know as we won't know how badly Nvidia handicaps their 50 series mobile gpus until they get benched) but you can't go wrong with a modern 40 series laptop for nearly everything people use them for today.
Going from last time, it took around 6 months+ for laptop GPUs to be available, its likely that 2025 machines at CES will still have 40-series GPUs since NVIDIA has made no moves to release 50-series yet (the 4090 was already announced in 22’ for over a month at this point + also out for a week+) It looks like the top end 50-series GPUs will come out at CES perhaps.
This basically.
Fastest for us that CES announced laptop would availabd for purchase would be 3 months after. Already bought a 2023 Strix G16 as i am not comfortable throwing more than 3000 usd 😢@@anujpartihar
Was ist das best was ich mit 1000€ kaufen kann
I FUCKING LOVE MY PRO 7I
:D language! ;)
But I can understand your enthusiasm! ;)
@@NotebookcheckReviews it’s such a good machine, best purchase I ever made. 4090 absolutely SHREDS
@@NotebookcheckReviews oh yeah, another funny thing. i got it for free cuz lenovo broke my old 7i gen 6 at the repair depot
Lenovo prices- keep in mimd they have constantly flash sales on their website
Yepp, indeed!
Good, but Ryzen wipes the floor with all these, and removing Windows 11 gains even more performance ;) Forget Intel now. New laptop, best to remove whole drive, then insert your type, install OS of choice :) Don't even turn the thing on before doing so, keep that safe somewhere, in case MS 'allows' you to upgrade to Windows 13, by which, they may have seen sense by then?
Which high-end Ryzen are you talking about for 2024? Other it, there was none ... so your statement is not really valid here, I would say ...
Is is just me or every laptop uses intel??
I literally cannot buy a non intel laptop. Already bought a Stric G16 but part of me i wish there was atleast a Ryzen competition
Well, there are no new high-end AMD chips ...
I got the asus strix g18 with 4060 even, i didnt have high expectation, but it more than shattered my expectation and then some.
I have the Strix G16 (i7 13650HX + 4060) and it is such a joy to use. Personally I would've preferred a 1440p panel but the 1080p is workable. Also would've preferred a numpad too with per key rgb but 4 zone is the next best thing. AND I CAN RUN CYBERPUNK ON RT OVERDRIVE tho with a bit of frame dips, how cool is that! I imagine the larger screen on your G18 must be a joy to use, feels like 18" gives you the proper desktop vibe, and with the numpad too.
I used the Scar 18 for quite a while, and really fell in love with the screen size.
Bought review. Moving along.
Seems like you know something we don't ;)
Why is it bought?
My gamining laptop choise are lenovo yoga pro 9i, core ultra 9 and rtx 4060(was aiming for 4070) but could not find in my country), beutifull mini led display, overall build and footprint are great, and its fan noise exelent for powerfull laptop. Loosing probably like 20% FPS compared to similar piced gaming laptopts, but hell its. Worth it
That's very true. The Yoga might not look like it, but it is actually a very solid gaming laptop.
its not a gaming laptop
the G14 is better
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 mine is 16inch, was considering G16 , but i had only 2options in my country 4060 with 16gb of ram and lower tier cpu for almost 2.3k(sorry but who the hell specs laptops for that prices with soldered 16gb ram) or one with 4080 for 3.5k which just too expensive for me. And G16 even louder coz form factor slightly lighter ans 1mm thinner, Mine Yoga cost 2k which is alot, like i could get other "gaming" laptops with 4070 for that price or even a bit cheaper
@@ronaldmcdonald6067 well it have gaming Gpu with 100W power which is basical max for 4060, it have great Cpu and it have fast refresh screen, It only miss three thing: RGB, cheap plastic smell and aircraft noises
:D
I still think going AMD processor is much better then intel...also i feel like spending money on g14 now feels worth it
Why? And which CPU in particular?
@@NotebookcheckReviews i feel like its more efficient in term of battery usage overall and tends to last longer in term of overall daily use and also for long term use like maybe 5 years and above... i mean it even shows in benchmark that intel is lagging behind apples processer and amd right....also i agree that zephyrus isnt able to fully utilise the gpu sinces its cap at 90w even if its 4080/4090 hence why i went with the 4050 90w version instead with 32gb to maximise the cost ratio when i purchase it
@@lov.2.g Not when you're talking about high-end laptops, Intel actually has better battery life. But for the lower end H-series AMD is the easy choice.
@@nocommentarygaming2644 hmm...yea im not so sure about the high end...so far the best laptop i ever own though is still zephyrus g14
Unfortunately, it is not as black and white as you might think.
We had many Intel laptops offering better battery life than AMD-powered ones once. It is not only a question of the CPU.
As was said, there are simply no new laptops with AMD HX CPUs, and the one that did come out in 2023 had terrible battery life!
I did go with pro 7
Sweet, what config?
got the 4090 for 2600£, quite good overall
That is a very sweet deal indeed!
@@NotebookcheckReviews yes!
@@NotebookcheckReviews I wanna ask, do u think anyone should worry about intel CPU drama for laptops?
I don't think any laptops with 14900hx is still worth buying
Why is that?
@@NotebookcheckReviewswell, 14900hx draw too much power, and the raptor lake voltage issue 😢
yup knew it blade 16 is the best lol
Unfortunately many of those have just 8 GB VRAM even at higher price points. This is a rip off and should not be endorsed. 8 GB is already tight even at 1440p and decent settings, some titles get fps drops over time even at 1080p. This will be even worse in the future. Do NOT buy 8 GB VRAM laptops especially because you can't upgrade it. Also sucks for AI workloads.
That's actually not true, I was only talking about 4080 and 4090 configs in this video ... So maybe you should have watched it before writing your comments.
Any laptop that claims to be made for creators but is TKL is a joke 😂
Not sure if I agree here. I am a creator and a numpad would never influence my buying decision. It is a very personal thing, I would say.
Nice review, I was expecting to see the acer predator 16 inch laptop with a 4080 in this comparison. But that's fine. Please make sure to include the Predator 18 inch with the 4090 in the next 18 inch gaming laptop comparison. I look forward to know if its worth buying the same. Thanks.
Yeah, somebody else already mentioned it. Truth to be told, it was completely flying under my radar. But we have a review unit coming! ;)
Noted, about the Helios 18. If you can not wait, we already reviewed it on the website:
www.notebookcheck.net/Acer-Predator-Helios-18-2024-laptop-review-New-hardware-for-the-18-inch-gamer.808564.0.html
If i have to take one to college for hardcore development and some nice games, which one would you recommend the blade 16 or new g16. I really value build quality as i wanted a mac but i realised i need some gaming during 5 years. Btw yes its going to be my only device aka desktop replacement
The Blade 16 has the edge in terms of build quality (much stronger hinges) and performance, but it is also thicker and heavier. So you would have to decide how much you value portability!
@@Vedanth_Kumar_453 honestly you could probably go with something with a touchscreen and a good igpu. A sa collage student I will tell you that matters more than performance for note taking and such.
The blade has upgradable ram while the g16 does not. If you can't find one with 32 gigs you like (or maybe want even more) I would go with the blade.
You did omit the legion 7. Also full aluminum build, doesn't look as macbooky though. Does also have upgradable ram. It is thicker, but not much heavier.
I would also consider a 14 inch of some kind, maybe one from the compact video they made. You can use an external monitor for really hardcore gaming and productivity
@NotebookcheckReviews I'm fine the loss in portability but tell me, is the loss in battery life in the blade that much of a difference or do u think if u were in my situation u wouldn't mind too much. Considering I have a bag big enough to carry 16 and my school bag is generally much heavier
Having had the Blade 16 24’ & Zephyrus G16 (Intel) the battery life is pretty bad with the Razer, the Intel G16 leaves it for dust and the AMD variant is probably 2x-3x+ the battery life of the Blade 16 (at least doing basic tasks, all of them on battery whilst gaming will net you the same. The problem with Razer though is their woeful support and now dropping RazerCare in Europe means you will be left to 24hr+ waits for replies for support tickets which i think is unacceptable for a top of the line laptop.
@MartinGod3992 do you ever had support issues with Razer?
@Vedanth_kumar_453 we tested allmost all SKUs of the G16 next to the Blade 16, if you want to read into them:
www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G16-2024-review-The-gaming-laptop-now-with-G-Sync-OLED-and-Intel-Meteor-Lake.800175.0.html
www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G16-laptop-review-A-slim-gamer-with-an-RTX-4090-and-unfulfilled-potential.862201.0.html
www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-ROG-Zephyrus-G16-2024-review-The-slim-gaming-laptop-now-with-AMD-Zen-5.877382.0.html
Can i have óne ?
Aren’t these intel chips still degrading and still becoming unstable? 😂
We heard nothing of the sort!
@@NotebookcheckReviews My Intel 10th generation Razer 15 Advanced has now slowed to a crawl and should be replaced SOON; is it 'safe' to buy one of the Intel models you reviewed herein? Please compare the list of Intel processors which have had degradation issues to the Intel processors contained in these just reviewed laptops. Nomenclature of Intel CPU names still has me confused as to which to avoid. Thank you.
best video
Bro gift me the legion 9😌.
Unfortunately, it is not mine to give. It's also already on its way to Lenovo already!
Donate me 1 of them,what you do with all of them?
They are, of course, not ours to keep, but go back to the manufacturers!
Love this comparisson! I own a legion pro 7 and I can take it anywhere without it screaming "gamer", but I like the lenovo legion 9 better. I am very excited about the upcoming laptops for 2025 and the new generation of Nvidia graphics cards. I hope they aim to play 4k with decent/high refresh rates
Thanks for watching! I wish they would be a MiniLED/OLED option for the Pro7. That would make it even better.
@@NotebookcheckReviews yes but i cant wait... and bought it today... with 4090 maxed out, i think its not such big deal, mostly i concerned more about PWM of panels... there are some really bad OLEDs on market, same as cheap miniLEDs
In german pls 🫶
Already working on it! Should be up next week! :)
i got the legion 7 pro. at BNH with a huge discount.
How much did you end up paying?