I am very happy to announce that there is no degredation or pump out effect using the PTM 7950 thermal pad. Its been a little over a month since ive used it and the temps have actually gotten better overtime. Im seeing an average of 66-70c on the hotspot with a full 462 watts of power and 3ghz overclock! I would NOT use any standard paste for any up-to-date gpu. I say up to date because gpus are only getting faster which in theory means more heat and for my findings standard pastes just cant keep up anymore for these GPU's. Dont waste your time, use liquid metal if you know what youre doing or just use the PTM7950 and be happy and done with it.
what size and thickness did you use for PTM 7950? I have a gigabyte aorus 7900 xtx that i repasted and seeing temps slowly rise again. Interested in using a pad.
Make sure to run the card and warm it up. It will make detaching the GPU easier from the heatsink. This is extra important if you're using thermal Grizzly paste as it tends to stick after use.
Thank you for posting this, thinking about trying this on an ASRock PG 7900 XTX Update: I did it, temps are so much better! Delta went from a max of 41°C down to 24°C, typically 17°C! PTM 7950 works super well
Okay so I have moved from mx-6 to PTM 7950. I gotta say, huge improvement 8-10 degrees difference after 1 day of using. I feel like the PTM 7950 is using the most out of this cooler design to it's max potential that you will never see in any thermal paste! I highly recommend it. But applying it is a bit of a pain though. Good luck!
You should try using phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer and performs in my experience works better than traditional pastes, and instead of thermal pads give thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro. It is also good to do undervolting.
I'll look into that once thermals go south again. It was surprisingly simple to get the gpu open so I have no problems doing this again. Thanks for your comment.
Old thread now, but I second this. I was skeptical at first when thermals "gurus" around the internet were recommending the stuff. But I figured I'd try it on my 6950 XT, and it does make a real difference. It seems that "pump-out" occurs with paste over few heat cycles, at least with recent AMD cards, so having a semi-solid pad keeps things in place much better. And it doesn't negatively impact the main GPU die temp reading like I thought it might; even that is a couple degrees lower now. Highly recommend!
I use the same stuff. PTM 7950, Laird TPCM 7000 and U6 pro for VGA/laptop repairs. Kryonaut is for desktop cpu's with heat spreader and degrades vert fast on direct-core chips.
Appreciate the video, very helpful! Had runaway hotspot temps on the same card, used the PTM7950 thermal pad and the hotspot is in control and my fans are finally quiet again!
Thank you for this vid. My GPU’s temp is around 53-70C. The hotspot however, is hitting up to 110C. No wonder the cooling fans were sounding like a jet engine and gaming stability was terrible. Watching this vid is going to help me out a lot. 24:09
Was worried about having to do this, video was very nice, happy to see the whole process. Fortunately after messing with some settings in Adrenaline i was able to lower my hotspot temperature to about 15c less than what it was before (95c - 100c now down to 75c - 80c) by turning down the maximum frequency to the recommended boost clock listed on XFX website. this has also drastically decreased my fan speed and noise with no noticeable (as of yet) performance decrease in my typical gaming sessions. TLDR; I recommend checking the Max frequency setting in adrenaline and making sure that its not set too high before deciding if you need a re-paste. (i would imagine doing both would also lower temps dramatically)
Have the same card and noticed my hotspot temps getting higher and higher within the first month. All reviews talked about how great the cooling was and showed great temps under load. Just ordered some PTM 7950 to re paste mine.
Dude it’s ridiculous how accepting people have become of shit quality control. I was having average hotspot temps of 100c+ and I posted about it on a few tech forums/Reddit and everyone was saying that’s normal/acceptable. That is way too hot for comfort
Thanks for this video dude. I haven't repasted a GPU before so really wanted some assistance on opening it up so this really helped. I did make one change, i didn't remove the fan cable. You can get away with that by opening it up like a book, there is enough cable to separate the heatsink and lay them side by side. For anyone curious running stock settings on the cyberpunk benchmark my GPU would hit 59 with a hotspot of 92. Repasted with MX-6. Now running the built in Overclock through Adrenaline its 60 with a hotspot of 82. With my undervolt settings of 2700mhz, 1.2v, 2676mhz vram, 0% power limit, zero RPM fans on i hit the same minimum FPS with a 1 FPS average loss and fans only hitting 1800rpm my hotspot hit 80. Some interesting things I've noticed. My GPU temps have gone up on average 1-3 degrees but my hotspot now 10-12 degrees lower. I'm guessing this is just from better heat spread. Also the factory paste looked absolutely fine. I had no missing spots on it and the paste was still moist(this card is only 2 weeks old so that would make sense). I'm guessing there must just be an issue with the paste they used? It looked like there was enough of it.
That's true, I'm coming from the reference model and for that model you definitely have to removed that cable as its way too short. so that's what i did here not knowing what to expect. Rather be safe than sorry. That's weird the factory paste was fine but temps were still an issue. my GPU is reaching its year of lifespan (about 8 months) so the stock paste wasn't in great condition.
Ya for sure I feel ya, I was just tossing that out there for the next person 😊. Anyway I've done a ton of gaming in the last day and temps are just fabulous. Thanks again!
I'm about to do my 7900 XT Pulse with PTM 7950. I was rewatching some videos to see if people really bothered changing the pads for the memory, and it doesn't seem like it. Those temps are usually far lower than the die/core, and that's the only thing I'm concerned about. Planning to do this for my 7800X3D, too, not that it really gets hot with my AIO. Even in Summer heat, with a very quiet fan curve, it stays around 63ºC while gaming, and I can just amp it up if it gets hotter. The only time it pushes temps is during video rendering (83-87ºC) maxing out the entire chip. I bought plenty to do my brother's 7700X, since he's on fan cooling atm.
The thermal pads should still have life left in them. if it breaks up upon opening it should piece back together when you assemble the card again. I still havent seen 80c on the hotspot using PTM7950 even on hot days... I assume the PTM 7950 will do well on CPU's too. If your cooler is good the 7950 wont be the bottleneck sort of speak, so it will keep up with cooling things down as it should.
I repasted mine using the arctic mx-6 (not mx-4). It's been working flawlessly. I think that's because due to it's high viscosity it's a lot more resistant to pump out effect. I did also notice it is performing better as time goes by. I am getting, 13-16 delta on load and 8 delta on idle. I would say that or PTM7950 works great.
@@allenrachal It's only been a week for my repaste and about 6 months for the stock. The paste that you used had a viscosity of 1700 poise at best while mx-6 has about 45000 poise, which makes it very very good for gpus. But honestly, my stock paste wasn't really bad, but I noticed some degredation in thermal performance. After repasting, I have like 1-3 degrees Celsius improvement in both hotspot and average core temps. Also, didn't need to replace the stock thermal pads and putty. The temps been the same within 76-80, never goes beyond 80 on memory junction.
@@IdolaKeiki The stock application wasnt too bad for my card as well but I didnt like the delta and I'm OCD about the longevity of the card. I think using actual paste is harder to get right than cutting a pad to size. I've repasted with thermal grizzly kryonaut 2 times and both times it pumped out within a month, hotspot reaching over 95c. PTM has been good ever since the making of this video. I've also kept stock pads as memory temps were the same as yours lbs.
@@allenrachal I am sure the type of paste matters a lot if you don't want it to pump out. I have the same card as yours. at max load 406 watts hot spot is at 77 and fan speed is at 35%. That is typically inaudible and cool. I will get back at you again in probably a month and see if it pumps out though.
Hello there, I hope, you will see my comment: I am going to de-assemble the cooler of my XFX Merc310 7900XTX and apply some honeywell PTM7950. In case the thermal pads are already dried out, damaged or will get damages during the de-assembly process, what kind of thickness do these have? Did you measure it?
I've been debating doing the same for my MSI 7900 xtx since I get hotspot temps up to 95c with a 30+ delta. Wouldn't you want to replace the thermal pads as well though? I was about to give you a hard time about not cleaning the heatsink but you got it!
my XFX RX 6650xt have same problem Gpu temp is 60-65 but hotspot temp is 90-103. Should i do same thing or send back to customer service it has 5 months warranty left.
Of course. With these cards anything under 1100mv are unstable for gaming anyway unless you under clock the card a lot. Mine can only do 1120mv without crashing so you won't be taking off much heat...
I have the same card and am thinking of checking mine in the future, so far temps are good. But your paste seemed really dry on initial opening. Great video!
Ive opened many cards and the paste is usually always dry and brittle looking and usually doesnt cover the entire die on its first open. this is why i always say the manufacturers paste is always low quality because on high end cards it usually is...
Hi, thank you for this tutorial for an easier teardown. Mine has its hotspot between 90 and 110 since the beggining. But GPU between 60/70. I've just replaced thermal pad and thermal past... and still the same.
Wait, I'm confused. I watched this whole video and never saw the PTM 7950 thermal pad being installed on the gpu die. Only the thermal grizzly paste did you in up replacing the thermal paste with a PTM 7950 pad afterward? If so, what was the thickness of the pad for the gpu die? Oh, and I noticed you put the little silver plate with the 3m Adhesive on wrong. It is the graphics card first then the little silver plate in the 3rd and 4th pcie slot hole then the Z bracket over the 4 pcie slot holes. Great video tho I just bought myself the same XFX rx 7900 xt but the ultra version not the black edition one for $700 new on Amazon which it great deal not the original msrp $899.99
They ripped but should be back in the same position when I put it back together. I have monitored the memory temps and it never went above 80c even overclocked to 2700+ mhz. So for now, theyre fine.
I'll do the same to mine with Thermalright's TFX paste, tho I wonder what's making mine run 62c instead of 51c like you. The delta goes up to 27c at max load. I've had it for two months now on a Corsair 4000D. This is even with the AC on
My fan speed is always around 2500 rpm while gaming at full load so that could explain it, pair that with a lian li 011 dynamic evo with every fan inside too.
Have you checked the memory temps? I repasted my 7900xt xfx with PTM7950 and so far the Hotspot is doing great not going over 76°C at 40% fans but I didn't change the pads like you did and the memory temps get around 90-92°C at load. Was wondering what were yours.
Under full load HWinfo64 shows that it never went over 80c with using stress testing applications. In gaming it's usually in the 70's so I didn't have a problem.
Good video guide, im a bit sceptic to buy a amd card after watching this, not because its cost much to fix it but i have never done it before, do this happen on all the cards and how long could it go from buying a new xfx 7900xt until it reach 100c hostpot?
AMD cards aren't the only ones experiencing hotspot issues. You could do a quick Google search of Nvidia cards hotspot and see the same issues after a year or so of ownership. It seems like more of an issue on AMD because AMD base their fan speeds on the hotspot which is kind of dumb considering the hotspot is just the hottest spot on the entire die. Mine never reached 100c it was more like 85c but I'm an overclocker so I like to have the best cooling if possible.
Sorry for the complete ignorant question, I am just looking to help out with hotspots reaching like 102 while gaming. Many of the comments are talking about PTM 7950 thermal pads, but there wasnt anything done with pads in this video right? All you did was repaste? Where do the pads come in to play with this fix? Will repasting like this video shows be an adequate fix for my issue? I have never taken a GPU apart, this is actually my first PC build ever and most of what I find is going way over my head. Thanks in advance!
PTM is a phase changing thermal compound. its a pad when its hard and changes to liquid when it gets hot enough. it needs to be cut roughly to the same size of the die shown in the video, then placed on top of the die. its tedious for sure because it comes with plastic that needs to be peeled on both sides 😅
@@NoSkillsBromx2 is very old,not a good choice for an xtx. My card is still chill, not as much as OP's,the XFX model has much better cooling I guess. My junction temps rarely exceed 78°c,core temps are around 57-64. Depends what fan speed I'm running. It's been almost a year since the repaste and the temps haven't gone up one bit,just like on my laptop. Zero pumpout.
if you play it only in 2K or HD resolution, then you will have low temperatures, it was also seen here, where it had 88 degrees in the menu, but in the game where there was probably a different resolution, it still had a min degree. Because of course it is.
I've heard in america its against the law to have those stickers void warranty if removed. also its kind of silly to RMA a brand new card that you just bought because of a repaste job and 9 times out of 10 they will send you a used/refurbished card that you dont know what abuse its been in, that will also need a repaste in the near future.
Your hot spots were 85 with the rest of the GPU being 55... Geez, I've had my ASRock Phantom Gaming 7900XTX for six months and it's creeping up to 110c hot spot with 75 base. Ordering the pads now to do the repaste.
@@panchopitufo01 actually the correct fit is 0.75mm vram and 1.75mm others as I tested all variants from 0.5mm to 3mm with new coil screws and arctic mx-4 and mx-6. Eepasted my gpu over 30 times in the last 4 months and the best Temps by far are for the sizes I mentioned above.
Should be much better after replacement. I wouldnt use paste tho I would use ptm 7950 for $20 just so it doesnt pump out and have you repasting every month lol
Thanks for this video but this is not the plug and play experience I want :( I’m ordering mine tmrw and I don’t wanna go through the hassle of disassembling my new gpu and spending more for a thermal pad :(
Say fam , I know by the time replay I’ll already be in action im goin to try this on my reference card xtx I did order pads , but I’m gonna try this in the mean time have so top tier paste. Appreciate the motivation
no problem but you need to apply with PTM 7950 to finalize it. paste will only band-aid the problem. my hotspots were an issue again after a month due to pumpout with 3 different pastes including thermal grizzly
Man, I think you are confusing GPU temps with Hot Spot temps, at 19:03 you hover you mouse pointer over GPU temps and not hot spot temps. I believe that your GPU temps shows 52-53 C while hotspot shows 72 C which is next temp on your screen. First of all, hotspot can't be lower temps than GPU. Hotspot is temp in SOC inside the hottest core while GPU temp is more on the surface of your GPU die therefore, is always lower than the hotspot. However you problem wasn't the thermal paste, you dropped roughly 9 C from 80 c to 71c for the hotspot and about 2 C for GPU by changing the paste . Look at the difference between GPU and hotspot temps, is about 20 C. That indicates clearly, bad thermal pads. Was bad from the start prolly. Bad thermal pads will not transfer heat fast enough to rad so your hot spot and mem temps will first to be high. Hotspot doesn't need fixing but always watch the mem, those are frying, not the GPU. My card have a difference between GPU and hotspot 13-14C but, was made in 2017 and nobody changed the pads, maybe manufacturers spent 5 cents more on thermal pads, don't know, but I should change'em soon. Just my 5 cents hope it helps.
Used google translate to understand but this issue youre talking about was a reference model issue to where the vapor chamber didnt have enough liquid to cool the gpu on full loads. This card is just fine after applying the PTM7950 phase change thermal pad.
85 is a joke, mine goes to 105, i really messed up when i removed the thermal pads, i changed between 3mm to 0.5mm and found the best to be 1.75mm for the Voltage & 0.75mm for the DDR. currently hotspot reaches 95 but will give it a last go today sometimes hits 97 without an overclock i actually opened the gpu at least 30 time in 6 months trying fo find a solution or break it lol
@@allenrachal alright I fixed it with cunductonout and hotspots dosent go over 72c while it’s at 52c gpu temp still not the best delta but it’s better than 115 hotspots fyi mine is taichi 7900xtx
@@merkedgg6322 Awesome! Keep in mind if you increase power limit the delta will always be 15-20 degrees apart. The only time I've seen delta in the single digits if it was on water. Also the regular thermal paste will pump out on these cards I've replaced it 3 times with regular paste, you will need thermal grizzlies thermal pad or ptm7950 to finalize the job.
This is idiotic to do. They already use excellent thermal paste and he probably put lower quality paste on lol. Also he ruined the memory chip thermal pads. Now his memory temps are way too hot . Those are ONE time use thermal pads that mold to the memory chips. You cant reuse them. Really stupid idea.
How is replacing factory thermal paste thats known to be very low quality a bad thing? The paste being used here is thermal grizzley kryaonaut how can anything else be better quality unless its a thermal pad? you really have no idea what youre even talking about do you? and for the memory chips its fine, I've checked the temps on hwinfo64 and only seen a max temp of 74c at 100% max load. I mean unless you like seeing a delta of 30c and above then by all means don't change the paste.
@@allenrachal Ya'll are delusional. If you think any manufacture uses low quality thermal paste on a $900 video card just to save 5 cents then you have lost your mind. Top of the line thermal paste costs nearly nothing. You people pay $10 for a tiny tube of it because ya'll have no idea that it costs nearly nothing to make. It has been known to NEVER change the stock thermal paste on video cards for over 15 years now due to the thermal pads needing to be replaced if you take the cooler off and the fact that the stock thermal paste is ALREADY of very high quality. You will not gain ANY thermal improvement when you change the stock paste and you will only introduce thermal problems with the memory.
@@EvoPortal so explain why I had a 30c+ delta from the gpu temp to the hotspot temp? is that normal? at full power im sitting at around 18-20c delta now since the paste change, the hotspot temp rarely ever goes above 70c. Im in many online groups that have this exact card and experienced the same exact problem as me and everyone recommends to change the paste if youre comfortable enough. If not you still have the Manufacturers warranty.
@@EvoPortalEh i see reports of ppl reapplying their thermal paste and getting way better temps every single day. I think you are correct about most of the stuff you say, but some cards are simply „unlucky“ and need a reapply so generally saying ‚never do that‘ is wrong imo
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I am very happy to announce that there is no degredation or pump out effect using the PTM 7950 thermal pad. Its been a little over a month since ive used it and the temps have actually gotten better overtime. Im seeing an average of 66-70c on the hotspot with a full 462 watts of power and 3ghz overclock!
I would NOT use any standard paste for any up-to-date gpu. I say up to date because gpus are only getting faster which in theory means more heat and for my findings standard pastes just cant keep up anymore for these GPU's. Dont waste your time, use liquid metal if you know what youre doing or just use the PTM7950 and be happy and done with it.
what size and thickness did you use for PTM 7950? I have a gigabyte aorus 7900 xtx that i repasted and seeing temps slowly rise again. Interested in using a pad.
@@bryanrucker5713 I used this www.amazon.com/PTM7950-40x80x0-2mm-JOYJOM-Conductive-Silicone/dp/B0BRJB8JNX
Cheers
70c hotspot with 460watts?! Damn that's really impressive. What is your non-hotspot temps? Are they close to hotspot?
@@Hellomister855 It was high 40's at the time. But now that it's getting hotter where I am I'm seeing 55c max on the normal edge temp.
You are a brave soul. I'm scared to even look at my 7900xtx the wrong way, let alone take it apart.
Tried this and somehow broke my card ):
Make sure to run the card and warm it up. It will make detaching the GPU easier from the heatsink. This is extra important if you're using thermal Grizzly paste as it tends to stick after use.
Thank you Judge Judy
Thank you for posting this, thinking about trying this on an ASRock PG 7900 XTX
Update: I did it, temps are so much better! Delta went from a max of 41°C down to 24°C, typically 17°C! PTM 7950 works super well
Awesome!
I have the same card, and was thinking about trying myself. Any tips or tricks to know?
@@mattwilson9293 Watch the video and get familiar with how to open the card. I'd say be careful and take your time with it.
Hello, I have the same card. Was it hard to do it ? After some time do you still have good temps ?
@@mattwilson9293 See my other reply, sorry I didn’t realize you might have been asking me
This is the first Video about this I have seen for this card, thank you!
No problem!
Okay so I have moved from mx-6 to PTM 7950. I gotta say, huge improvement 8-10 degrees difference after 1 day of using. I feel like the PTM 7950 is using the most out of this cooler design to it's max potential that you will never see in any thermal paste! I highly recommend it. But applying it is a bit of a pain though. Good luck!
Thank you for the tear down video finally!! I was hesitant to do it by my self I thought it would be much harder 😅
The reference XTX was actually much harder and tedious. This card was a breeze I'm confident enough to open this a million times now lol
You should try using phase-change material Honeywell PTM7950. It comes in as a sheet, lasts longer and performs in my experience works better than traditional pastes, and instead of thermal pads give thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro.
It is also good to do undervolting.
I'll look into that once thermals go south again. It was surprisingly simple to get the gpu open so I have no problems doing this again. Thanks for your comment.
Why is it good for undervolting? I ordered TFX but I might get this too
Old thread now, but I second this. I was skeptical at first when thermals "gurus" around the internet were recommending the stuff. But I figured I'd try it on my 6950 XT, and it does make a real difference. It seems that "pump-out" occurs with paste over few heat cycles, at least with recent AMD cards, so having a semi-solid pad keeps things in place much better. And it doesn't negatively impact the main GPU die temp reading like I thought it might; even that is a couple degrees lower now. Highly recommend!
I use the same stuff.
PTM 7950, Laird TPCM 7000 and U6 pro for VGA/laptop repairs. Kryonaut is for desktop cpu's with heat spreader and degrades vert fast on direct-core chips.
Is it mainly sold on aliexpress? Beucase that's what it shows up when i search it up.
Appreciate the video, very helpful! Had runaway hotspot temps on the same card, used the PTM7950 thermal pad and the hotspot is in control and my fans are finally quiet again!
Amazing stuff huh.
@@allenrachal It really is haha
Thank you for this vid. My GPU’s temp is around 53-70C. The hotspot however, is hitting up to 110C. No wonder the cooling fans were sounding like a jet engine and gaming stability was terrible. Watching this vid is going to help me out a lot. 24:09
Was worried about having to do this, video was very nice, happy to see the whole process.
Fortunately after messing with some settings in Adrenaline i was able to lower my hotspot temperature to about 15c less than what it was before (95c - 100c now down to 75c - 80c) by turning down the maximum frequency to the recommended boost clock listed on XFX website. this has also drastically decreased my fan speed and noise with no noticeable (as of yet) performance decrease in my typical gaming sessions.
TLDR; I recommend checking the Max frequency setting in adrenaline and making sure that its not set too high before deciding if you need a re-paste. (i would imagine doing both would also lower temps dramatically)
I had to repaste my 7900 xt merc310 black literally right after I got it. XFX needs to do better with their paste application.
Have the same card and noticed my hotspot temps getting higher and higher within the first month. All reviews talked about how great the cooling was and showed great temps under load. Just ordered some PTM 7950 to re paste mine.
@sleazydzx Yeah their paste quality control isn't very good. Good thing repasting doesn't void warranty so you're good.
Paste is pre-applied/printed on the heatsinks, the heatsink manufacturer controls that aspect.
Dude it’s ridiculous how accepting people have become of shit quality control. I was having average hotspot temps of 100c+ and I posted about it on a few tech forums/Reddit and everyone was saying that’s normal/acceptable. That is way too hot for comfort
@@steamedauroraborealis8208 Same with mine, they said 100 is normal but it is NOT.
Thanks for this video dude. I haven't repasted a GPU before so really wanted some assistance on opening it up so this really helped.
I did make one change, i didn't remove the fan cable. You can get away with that by opening it up like a book, there is enough cable to separate the heatsink and lay them side by side.
For anyone curious running stock settings on the cyberpunk benchmark my GPU would hit 59 with a hotspot of 92.
Repasted with MX-6.
Now running the built in Overclock through Adrenaline its 60 with a hotspot of 82.
With my undervolt settings of 2700mhz, 1.2v, 2676mhz vram, 0% power limit, zero RPM fans on i hit the same minimum FPS with a 1 FPS average loss and fans only hitting 1800rpm my hotspot hit 80.
Some interesting things I've noticed. My GPU temps have gone up on average 1-3 degrees but my hotspot now 10-12 degrees lower. I'm guessing this is just from better heat spread.
Also the factory paste looked absolutely fine. I had no missing spots on it and the paste was still moist(this card is only 2 weeks old so that would make sense). I'm guessing there must just be an issue with the paste they used? It looked like there was enough of it.
That's true, I'm coming from the reference model and for that model you definitely have to removed that cable as its way too short. so that's what i did here not knowing what to expect. Rather be safe than sorry.
That's weird the factory paste was fine but temps were still an issue. my GPU is reaching its year of lifespan (about 8 months) so the stock paste wasn't in great condition.
Ya for sure I feel ya, I was just tossing that out there for the next person 😊. Anyway I've done a ton of gaming in the last day and temps are just fabulous. Thanks again!
@@robertyoung8615 Not a problem! Glad I could help!
difference in temps 100% load before after?@@allenrachal
Str8 success fam , again 🙏🏾 went frm being 20-30 c apart now I’m 10 -15 apart
I'm about to do my 7900 XT Pulse with PTM 7950. I was rewatching some videos to see if people really bothered changing the pads for the memory, and it doesn't seem like it. Those temps are usually far lower than the die/core, and that's the only thing I'm concerned about.
Planning to do this for my 7800X3D, too, not that it really gets hot with my AIO. Even in Summer heat, with a very quiet fan curve, it stays around 63ºC while gaming, and I can just amp it up if it gets hotter. The only time it pushes temps is during video rendering (83-87ºC) maxing out the entire chip. I bought plenty to do my brother's 7700X, since he's on fan cooling atm.
The thermal pads should still have life left in them. if it breaks up upon opening it should piece back together when you assemble the card again. I still havent seen 80c on the hotspot using PTM7950 even on hot days...
I assume the PTM 7950 will do well on CPU's too. If your cooler is good the 7950 wont be the bottleneck sort of speak, so it will keep up with cooling things down as it should.
I repasted mine using the arctic mx-6 (not mx-4). It's been working flawlessly. I think that's because due to it's high viscosity it's a lot more resistant to pump out effect. I did also notice it is performing better as time goes by. I am getting, 13-16 delta on load and 8 delta on idle. I would say that or PTM7950 works great.
How long has it been since you repasted?
@@allenrachal It's only been a week for my repaste and about 6 months for the stock. The paste that you used had a viscosity of 1700 poise at best while mx-6 has about 45000 poise, which makes it very very good for gpus. But honestly, my stock paste wasn't really bad, but I noticed some degredation in thermal performance. After repasting, I have like 1-3 degrees Celsius improvement in both hotspot and average core temps. Also, didn't need to replace the stock thermal pads and putty. The temps been the same within 76-80, never goes beyond 80 on memory junction.
@@IdolaKeiki The stock application wasnt too bad for my card as well but I didnt like the delta and I'm OCD about the longevity of the card. I think using actual paste is harder to get right than cutting a pad to size. I've repasted with thermal grizzly kryonaut 2 times and both times it pumped out within a month, hotspot reaching over 95c. PTM has been good ever since the making of this video.
I've also kept stock pads as memory temps were the same as yours lbs.
@@allenrachal I am sure the type of paste matters a lot if you don't want it to pump out. I have the same card as yours. at max load 406 watts hot spot is at 77 and fan speed is at 35%. That is typically inaudible and cool. I will get back at you again in probably a month and see if it pumps out though.
Hello there,
I hope, you will see my comment:
I am going to de-assemble the cooler of my XFX Merc310 7900XTX and apply some honeywell PTM7950. In case the thermal pads are already dried out, damaged or will get damages during the de-assembly process, what kind of thickness do these have? Did you measure it?
Looks like I'm doing the thermal pads when I do the paste.
Did you measure thermal pad thickness?
taking mine apart to install the eiswolf so i appreciate you taking the dive into this card lol
Same issue with my 7900xtx asrock taichi. Gonna change to kryosheet.
Nice video. Trying to determine whether or not to re-paste my reference card.
Thank you for this video going to do this when mine comes in to prevent it from happening in future also gives me a chance go order new thermal Pads.
Hi Allen, any chance you know the thermal pad thicknesses? Great video :)
I've been debating doing the same for my MSI 7900 xtx since I get hotspot temps up to 95c with a 30+ delta. Wouldn't you want to replace the thermal pads as well though? I was about to give you a hard time about not cleaning the heatsink but you got it!
@@mattyb584 it's recommended to buy new pads but the stock ones worked just fine for me. It never went over 80c for memory temps.
my XFX RX 6650xt have same problem Gpu temp is 60-65 but hotspot temp is 90-103. Should i do same thing or send back to customer service it has 5 months warranty left.
did you try first to undervolt your card before opening it ?
better perf , less heat, less consumption
Of course. With these cards anything under 1100mv are unstable for gaming anyway unless you under clock the card a lot. Mine can only do 1120mv without crashing so you won't be taking off much heat...
Yeah my 7900xt goes to like 97 degrees hotspot with under 60 average temps. I've had it since launch but i just can't deal with the noise anymore
Hey I had a question. How hard is it to get the backplate off? Will I have to reapply the paste if I do?
I have the same card and am thinking of checking mine in the future, so far temps are good. But your paste seemed really dry on initial opening. Great video!
Ive opened many cards and the paste is usually always dry and brittle looking and usually doesnt cover the entire die on its first open. this is why i always say the manufacturers paste is always low quality because on high end cards it usually is...
you are using 70% alcohol? Isnt it better to use 99.9%?
Hi, thank you for this tutorial for an easier teardown.
Mine has its hotspot between 90 and 110 since the beggining. But GPU between 60/70.
I've just replaced thermal pad and thermal past... and still the same.
Wait, I'm confused. I watched this whole video and never saw the PTM 7950 thermal pad being installed on the gpu die. Only the thermal grizzly paste did you in up replacing the thermal paste with a PTM 7950 pad afterward? If so, what was the thickness of the pad for the gpu die? Oh, and I noticed you put the little silver plate with the 3m Adhesive on wrong. It is the graphics card first then the little silver plate in the 3rd and 4th pcie slot hole then the Z bracket over the 4 pcie slot holes. Great video tho I just bought myself the same XFX rx 7900 xt but the ultra version not the black edition one for $700 new on Amazon which it great deal not the original msrp $899.99
i dont see you put on the pads, in this video you are only put new paste on the gpu, and that wont fix your hotspot
Are your memory junction temps still the same? Your thermal pads ripped when you pulled off the cooler.
They ripped but should be back in the same position when I put it back together. I have monitored the memory temps and it never went above 80c even overclocked to 2700+ mhz. So for now, theyre fine.
que medida son los termal pads ??
I'll do the same to mine with Thermalright's TFX paste, tho I wonder what's making mine run 62c instead of 51c like you. The delta goes up to 27c at max load. I've had it for two months now on a Corsair 4000D. This is even with the AC on
My fan speed is always around 2500 rpm while gaming at full load so that could explain it, pair that with a lian li 011 dynamic evo with every fan inside too.
Have you checked the memory temps? I repasted my 7900xt xfx with PTM7950 and so far the Hotspot is doing great not going over 76°C at 40% fans but I didn't change the pads like you did and the memory temps get around 90-92°C at load. Was wondering what were yours.
Under full load HWinfo64 shows that it never went over 80c with using stress testing applications. In gaming it's usually in the 70's so I didn't have a problem.
Good video guide, im a bit sceptic to buy a amd card after watching this, not because its cost much to fix it but i have never done it before, do this happen on all the cards and how long could it go from buying a new xfx 7900xt until it reach 100c hostpot?
AMD cards aren't the only ones experiencing hotspot issues. You could do a quick Google search of Nvidia cards hotspot and see the same issues after a year or so of ownership. It seems like more of an issue on AMD because AMD base their fan speeds on the hotspot which is kind of dumb considering the hotspot is just the hottest spot on the entire die. Mine never reached 100c it was more like 85c but I'm an overclocker so I like to have the best cooling if possible.
Sorry for the complete ignorant question, I am just looking to help out with hotspots reaching like 102 while gaming. Many of the comments are talking about PTM 7950 thermal pads, but there wasnt anything done with pads in this video right? All you did was repaste? Where do the pads come in to play with this fix? Will repasting like this video shows be an adequate fix for my issue? I have never taken a GPU apart, this is actually my first PC build ever and most of what I find is going way over my head. Thanks in advance!
PTM is a phase changing thermal compound. its a pad when its hard and changes to liquid when it gets hot enough. it needs to be cut roughly to the same size of the die shown in the video, then placed on top of the die. its tedious for sure because it comes with plastic that needs to be peeled on both sides 😅
I repasted my hellhound xtx with ptm 7950. I repasted over 4 gpus with this thing lmao.
@@NoSkillsBromx2 is very old,not a good choice for an xtx.
My card is still chill, not as much as OP's,the XFX model has much better cooling I guess.
My junction temps rarely exceed 78°c,core temps are around 57-64. Depends what fan speed I'm running. It's been almost a year since the repaste and the temps haven't gone up one bit,just like on my laptop. Zero pumpout.
if you play it only in 2K or HD resolution, then you will have low temperatures, it was also seen here, where it had 88 degrees in the menu, but in the game where there was probably a different resolution, it still had a min degree. Because of course it is.
I repasted my 7900xtx and my temps went down 18 degree. I can recommend doing that.
which thermal paste used?
I just did the same to mine and what a difference.
difference how much?
Thanks Allen. I have a xfx merc 6950xt and i would like to do a repaste with the corsair xtm70. Do you think doing this is worth risking the warrenty?
I've heard in america its against the law to have those stickers void warranty if removed. also its kind of silly to RMA a brand new card that you just bought because of a repaste job and 9 times out of 10 they will send you a used/refurbished card that you dont know what abuse its been in, that will also need a repaste in the near future.
Do I have to disassemble everything to replace fans or just the top shroud?
Your hot spots were 85 with the rest of the GPU being 55... Geez, I've had my ASRock Phantom Gaming 7900XTX for six months and it's creeping up to 110c hot spot with 75 base. Ordering the pads now to do the repaste.
hi, any info in thickness thermal pads for vram and power phases?
same here cant find any info
@@PSYCHOPATHiO 1mm vram and 2mm power phases (info fron xfx support) use tpm 7950 i have a hotspot of 80°c at 2050 rpm at 405w in warzone
@@panchopitufo01 actually the correct fit is 0.75mm vram and 1.75mm others as I tested all variants from 0.5mm to 3mm with new coil screws and arctic mx-4 and mx-6. Eepasted my gpu over 30 times in the last 4 months and the best Temps by far are for the sizes I mentioned above.
i got a xfx 7900 xt and am gona try ur fix, cause when i play mhw or starship troopers anything like that its almost 110°
Should be much better after replacement. I wouldnt use paste tho I would use ptm 7950 for $20 just so it doesnt pump out and have you repasting every month lol
rly? i got a thermal pad artic 1 mm, would that work?
@@allenrachal
@@allenrachal i got a thermal pad artic, will that work?
Never had any problems whit xfx amd cards all of the once i had ran perfect and cool around 64 core and 72-74 hot spot
At stock settings sure. But once you increase power levels it will become a problem at full load.
what products are you using?
I changed the thermal paste but I have the same problem after 4 months, do you think the thermalgrizly pad works better??
try ptm7950 thermal paste doesn’t do it anymore for gpus
@@switchblad333 no more thermal paste!!! I put this Thermal Grizly KryoSheet, no stress anymore!!
is there a way to turn off the glowiung xfx logo?
Hey dude i just want to know how to go about removing the shroud and if its easy to do. I love this card but i want to repaint it white
easy as hell. remove six screws behind the fans, half above and the rest below. just remember remove the fan wire at first and be steady!
Thanks for this video but this is not the plug and play experience I want :( I’m ordering mine tmrw and I don’t wanna go through the hassle of disassembling my new gpu and spending more for a thermal pad :(
Say fam , I know by the time replay I’ll already be in action im goin to try this on my reference card xtx I did order pads , but I’m gonna try this in the mean time have so top tier paste. Appreciate the motivation
no problem but you need to apply with PTM 7950 to finalize it. paste will only band-aid the problem. my hotspots were an issue again after a month due to pumpout with 3 different pastes including thermal grizzly
@@allenrachal I’ve ordered some gelid pads 80x40x1.0mm
Man, I think you are confusing GPU temps with Hot Spot temps, at 19:03 you hover you mouse pointer over GPU temps and not hot spot temps. I believe that your GPU temps shows 52-53 C while hotspot shows 72 C which is next temp on your screen. First of all, hotspot can't be lower temps than GPU. Hotspot is temp in SOC inside the hottest core while GPU temp is more on the surface of your GPU die therefore, is always lower than the hotspot.
However you problem wasn't the thermal paste, you dropped roughly 9 C from 80 c to 71c for the hotspot and about 2 C for GPU by changing the paste . Look at the difference between GPU and hotspot temps, is about 20 C. That indicates clearly, bad thermal pads. Was bad from the start prolly. Bad thermal pads will not transfer heat fast enough to rad so your hot spot and mem temps will first to be high. Hotspot doesn't need fixing but always watch the mem, those are frying, not the GPU.
My card have a difference between GPU and hotspot 13-14C but, was made in 2017 and nobody changed the pads, maybe manufacturers spent 5 cents more on thermal pads, don't know, but I should change'em soon.
Just my 5 cents hope it helps.
I feel bad for those torn thermal pads.
这个显卡前几个月出现了大规模散热模组质量问题，如果热点温度过高最好返厂售后不要自己更换硅脂，因为不会有什么改善。问题出现在VC均热板制造时候烧结的问题。如果已经自己更换了规制并且已经把防拆标签弄坏，最好从淘宝或者其他中国购物平台的渠道购买防拆标签从新贴上，防止被拒保。
Used google translate to understand but this issue youre talking about was a reference model issue to where the vapor chamber didnt have enough liquid to cool the gpu on full loads. This card is just fine after applying the PTM7950 phase change thermal pad.
@@allenrachal 你的显卡如果可以通过更换霍尼韦尔的相变贴让温度降低，并且热点温度没有超过100都的情况下，证明你的显卡散热器不存在批次问题。我描述的问题在中国有很多案例。在youtube的中国视频比较少，如果是bilibili这个视频网站搜索xfx这款显卡会发现相当多温度过高的问题反馈视频。并且当出现这种问题以后将显卡返回给工厂售后，将收到新的显卡散热器，并且显卡温度明显下降。关于你说的VC均热板冷却液问题，据我个人通过中文网站了解到的信息，可能是散热器生产加工工程中出现了问题，导致某个时间段的一批散热器出现了温度过高的问题。
首先我是中国人，其次你知道，几乎所有的显卡都是中国制造，所以在显卡出现批量性问题的时候，查看中文媒体反而是了解事情真实情况最快的途径。如果是cpu，那么英文媒体将是首选。关于为什么我是用中文回复，是因为很多中文词与用英文翻译完成后在翻译回中文意思就变了，所以我直接用中文可能会好一些。
85 is a joke, mine goes to 105, i really messed up when i removed the thermal pads, i changed between 3mm to 0.5mm and found the best to be 1.75mm for the Voltage & 0.75mm for the DDR. currently hotspot reaches 95 but will give it a last go today sometimes hits 97 without an overclock
i actually opened the gpu at least 30 time in 6 months trying fo find a solution or break it lol
to everyone watching: no need to scratch up ur gpu die with a dry paper towel, the alcohol was enough
I think you kill it because you are supposed to change the thermal pads.
My memory junction temps dont exceed 80c when gaming. theyre fine, Ive checked every temp on my card.
Bruh mine is 56c while hotspot is 111c 😂
Fix that bro 😂
@@allenrachal fuck ama Liquid Metal and I’m going to use the tg shield also to give me at least some assurance I’ll report back temps after I’m done
@@allenrachal alright I fixed it with cunductonout and hotspots dosent go over 72c while it’s at 52c gpu temp still not the best delta but it’s better than 115 hotspots fyi mine is taichi 7900xtx
@@allenrachal also all the screws were Philips head so it was very easy just be extra careful with the rentension bracket becuse it goes flying
@@merkedgg6322 Awesome! Keep in mind if you increase power limit the delta will always be 15-20 degrees apart. The only time I've seen delta in the single digits if it was on water. Also the regular thermal paste will pump out on these cards I've replaced it 3 times with regular paste, you will need thermal grizzlies thermal pad or ptm7950 to finalize the job.
Thank i returned my 7900xtx and bought a 4090.
actually i sold my launch 4090 for a 7900XTX because i hated the idea that the power connector might melt and render the 4090 useless
Thermal pads good for one use time boddy if you change Thermal paste you need remplace Thermal pad i same time 👎👎🤦🤦♀️🤦♂️ noob job
except my memory junction temp doesn't go above 80c😴 stays comfortably in the 70's.
This is idiotic to do. They already use excellent thermal paste and he probably put lower quality paste on lol. Also he ruined the memory chip thermal pads. Now his memory temps are way too hot . Those are ONE time use thermal pads that mold to the memory chips. You cant reuse them. Really stupid idea.
How is replacing factory thermal paste thats known to be very low quality a bad thing? The paste being used here is thermal grizzley kryaonaut how can anything else be better quality unless its a thermal pad? you really have no idea what youre even talking about do you? and for the memory chips its fine, I've checked the temps on hwinfo64 and only seen a max temp of 74c at 100% max load. I mean unless you like seeing a delta of 30c and above then by all means don't change the paste.
@@allenrachal Ya'll are delusional. If you think any manufacture uses low quality thermal paste on a $900 video card just to save 5 cents then you have lost your mind. Top of the line thermal paste costs nearly nothing. You people pay $10 for a tiny tube of it because ya'll have no idea that it costs nearly nothing to make. It has been known to NEVER change the stock thermal paste on video cards for over 15 years now due to the thermal pads needing to be replaced if you take the cooler off and the fact that the stock thermal paste is ALREADY of very high quality. You will not gain ANY thermal improvement when you change the stock paste and you will only introduce thermal problems with the memory.
@@EvoPortal so explain why I had a 30c+ delta from the gpu temp to the hotspot temp? is that normal? at full power im sitting at around 18-20c delta now since the paste change, the hotspot temp rarely ever goes above 70c. Im in many online groups that have this exact card and experienced the same exact problem as me and everyone recommends to change the paste if youre comfortable enough. If not you still have the Manufacturers warranty.
@@EvoPortalEh i see reports of ppl reapplying their thermal paste and getting way better temps every single day. I think you are correct about most of the stuff you say, but some cards are simply „unlucky“ and need a reapply so generally saying ‚never do that‘ is wrong imo
They use cheap ass pads and paste.