I love it when you do this crazy stuff , it just proves to me how silly it is. With my 7900xtx MBA under a waterblock I can get 16100 gpu score whilst using under 400w. To gain 10% performance for a 50% increase in power is madness and not something I will ever be aspiring too. LtMatt is on the leaderboard so many times because each entry is with a different card. He had the Merc , Red Devil and Nitro+ and kept the Sapphire card.
Actually, the only entry on there is with the Nitro. I also never had the Red Devil. Tried the Nitro, Merc, TUF and Aorus. Nitro was the best overall. TUF would be one of the best but the power limit is lower sadly.
@@TheMattB81 The Nitro I have looks limited to 463W with two 8pin and one daisy chain. Is that the power limit with three single 8pin? I'm not assuming the gpu can tell. Managed to squeeze out 10043 on 8k superposition with the stock air cooler.
@@MasterSoda360 Yes, 467W is the max power limit, however it's typically shown as 463W by most software and on overlays. Not sure if you ever watched my videos on YT, but on my overlays you'll see it hitting the 463W frequently at 4K.
Loving the 7900 XTX content. Your high hotspot temps might be limiting your boost clocks. My air cooled XFX Merc 310 managed 17300 score on 450-475 watts. If you can get the hotspot to below 90°C you might be able to get a much higher score.
The ridges on that backplate are no joke. It’s also so damn long it has good pass through on the heatsink despite the large pcb that nvidia ditched with ampere and Lovelace for better cooling. It also has good thermal interface material for the backplate.
Hi chosen one. I am about to water cool my merc 310 on air I get 2850mhz with 55% fan speed. What is your stable oc? Cause if i push my fans at 100% i can get 3000mhz +. Hope i can get same with water cooling at a normal noise levels.
@@aurelAli1919 You'll easily get whatever you can achieve with your fans at 100% if you have a properly-mounted cooler and a good radiator setup. Now, is it necessarily worth it to sit at 3100 MHz instead of say 2900-2950? You'll have to do some benchmarks to find out.
I've had 3 XTX Tai-Chi's come through the shop and each one could hold 3200MHz GPU clock with just a +15% power bump. Really liking these XTX cards. Finally 3GHz GPU's.
Are you talking about a bump to the voltage? I'm new to overclocking. My xfx comed at 1150 stock but when I turn it down to 1050 it goes from 2800mhz to 3050.
This shows the potential of this card and reveals their plan to release an updated version mid cycle. I think we might see something more impressive than the typical Ti or -50 model.
I don't think we'll ever see a 4090 competitor this generation--AMD has been all about efficiency and they would have to push this architecture way into the inefficient end of the curve to achieve that sort of performance. But maybe we'll see some sort of update with at least a decent bump. Here's hoping!
@@thicclink There are few leaks about 7950xtx and 7990xtx (which will be the 1st gpu with 3d cache). Also a few leaks about gaming performance beating the 4090, but these are fakes probably
Liquid metal on the die (correct precautions taken if course) should help tame those Hotspot temps. Did an OC run on Vega 64 a few days ago. Hit 500w power draw. Under chilled water GPU temp hit 37c and hotspot was only 50c. A good LM application will help bring down the Delta between HS and GPU temp.
It is sad that the ability to use MPT was taken away with this gen. It was nice to be able to just click a few times and be running at a solid 350W on a 6900XT, with the ability to still turn it up 15% with the OEM tuning software.
with MPT i pulled 615watt from my RX 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate with waterblok. Got to set a few nice records on ambient with that setup. When I found out that MPT was not possible this gen, it actually stopped me from getting a 7900 XTX.
At 3200 MHZ, the 7900 XTX should be able to outperform and match the 4090 in lots of games. I am wondering if these clocks will be possible in the future with just driver updates because with the 6000 series, power consumption was significantly dropped with just driver updates.
@@counterassy yes yes good job, but are your frametimes better than with a good undervolt in your games. Get off the benchmark. I only notice about 2-5 fps increase from big OC, Your OC is much larger than what iǘe tested but still it seems that you can achieve more with a different method on 5nm TSMC. Good of you to say the 4090 still wins tho
In my 7900xtx nitro plus at 465w I have an average of 15% more fps than stock model in cyberpunk native 4k clock is around 2900mhz. Gaming clock at 3350mhz is crazy. I would like to see a test on the amd platform with SAM on. Certainly the results would make a greater impression than those in 3d mark.
@@quintrapnell3605 Depending on the game you have a different game clock. In modern warfare 2 you can have a stable clock at 3200mhz. For MW2 I have set 3300mhz@1081v this gives in-game clocks of 3100-3250mhz. But to achieve such clocks in cyberpunk is already a challenge.
I was able to reach 3.3gh peak clocks with a really good reference card, but it was both power and cooling limited on it, so it would hit those clocks in games then actually drop clockspeed by a lot so it would ultimately result in less performance. My current Tiachi will comfortably sit around 3.1ghz without issues while sucking down 465ish watts
I just can’t be bothered to tune for every game when it involves sitting through crashes that might take an hour to appear then reloading everything and doing it again. Maybe if I only played one game.
Couple days ago I had to "repaste" my Asrock Aqua xtx, I used a kryosheet that I cut to size. Hotspot only hits 60s @ max draw, which is either 525w or 545w with Asrocks newest BIOS.
Thank you for a great video. I am looking in to push my 2070S further, and this i s a good inspi. I have a PNY 2070 Super "mini", it have been amazing to push, running up 2230@700 with a msi bios flash. Pushing 251 watt, but I know I got temp and power to push to 300W. But too bad you didnt try do make a run on a bit greater cpu. Could have been a nice touch with a top 3;)
A few gaming benchmarks weren't possible? Would be interested to see the scaling of performance up there. I wouldn't have expected much, but oh well, still a great video and nice mod. Very interesting, thanks
Wait. So you "accidentally" proved here, that 3 8 Pin pcie are enough for 600w+. I mean it was already clear beforehand, since the 12vEPS 8 Pin and the 8 Pin pcie are basically the same, with pcie having one more ground pin and one less 12v. So the pcie 8 pin can carry 300w (EPS12v) * 3/4 = 225w each. making the safe powerinput through 3 pcie 8 pin 675w. So 450w 4090s could get away with 2 PCIe 8 pins (and like 50w through the slot just to be safe) and higher end Models with 3.
Seeing that you have an Corsair Power supply i would check the Amp current those can deliver on the 12V rails especially on the GPU Rails i have that Problem before and had to find out that Corsair PSUs can't deliver much in terms of Amp (only ~50A as far as i remember) i then switched to a Seasonic 1600W PSU with 75A for 20ms on those rails and my Problem was "mostly" gone. Disclosure: i had damaged my Vega FE and had burned out a Computing Core under Air, and now, if the driver decide to use that Core (Core 0), cause a short with an Amp spike of something around 60A, The seasonic PSU can "mostly" power through but sometimes it is too long and triggers the protection. having re fit this damaged Card to water makes at least sure nothing else burned out. Many PSU are kind of Weak on this specific Rail and i had to search specifically for a High Amp PCIe Rail PSU to overcome the Problem. 600Watts are definitely something a Corsair PCIe Rail struggle with Ampere wise.
I'm actually curious about the flipside of at least one of the comments to this video... A lot of people just pick up whatever video card they want, put it in their system and run with it - especially not even watercooling it unless it comes that way. I'm curious how far you can push a card under those circumstances. Nowhere near as much, for sure, but I'm definitely curious!
Does the load get evenly distributed between the PCIe power connectors? I guess ideally it should, but i'm not sure how the controller on the GPU side works.
Good to see that AMD still can take the same juice as nvidia 650+watts it needs to kick some gaming performance up. I guess the hotspots making it inefficient, some transistors maybe at that point start to conflict and corrupt the image with artifacts. Good video German boy
Wow, I guess this is why my Sapphire Nitro+ melted one of my PSU pcie cables then. I have since set the sapphire to silent mode so it doesnt boost so much. What I think was happening is me using an exploit on son of the forest, logging off and back on again so I could loot the ammo boxes again and again, it was in single player, im not that lame :D But each time I logged in again would require more juice from the card and was overloading the pcie cables
Im kinda new to overclocking, can someone explain what happened? My stock xtx runs at 1150 mv, he had his running at around 1040mv right? Mine likes to run around 1060mv and I can generay hit 3050mhz. I only have an xtx on air though.
Hey derbauer i have a pavillion gaming laptop and it has ryzen 3550H its TDP is 35watts so i noticed something after a bios update , BEFORE BIOS UPDATE(REVISION F.14) : so the cpu used to draw around 10-15 watts when gaming and while running geekbench and cpu temps were 85-90 AFTER THE BIOS UPDATE(F.16): now the cpu draws 50 watts while running geek bench and while gaming it averages at 25-30 watts at 85c So my question is ,is it normal for a 35watt cpu to draw around 50watts
try a gpu with an ASIC under 25%. My Taichi does this on stock bios on stock cooler with just thermal pads and liquid metal. I bought a ch341a, but haven't found a reason to flash the aqua bios to the card as it's already insane lol
Miss the old AMD. They allowed to increase the power limit by 50% and they didn't limit memory clock. They still allow more overclocking than Nvidia but it's nothing like the old days
GPU advice please: my plan was to get the "very best RTX4090" which money can buy, (which I heard is the Asus Rog Strix OC version) & put a EK dual active custom waterblock on it. But if the board itself barely varies between companies, & I'm planning on stripping away the fans & heatsink it comes with anyway, would who assembles the GPU even matter anymore? And if not, could you please tell us which is the best pre-custom-waterblocked (NOT AOI but to be added to a custom waterloop) RTX4090 GPU available, please? P.s. any rumours about a RTX4090 super or any other variation of the RTX4090 that comes with a display port 2.1? There are displays being released for which the existing display 1.4a would be a bottleneck, so I find that outdated display port tech off-putting, when even lower spec AMD GPUs use display port 2.1 now.
Wait, cats don't usually just stare at you like you're an idiot when you use those toys with them? Mine just looks at me like I'm a complete idiot and does nothing!
My 6900xt is pushed to 385 watts but i dont push it that high. I just did the mod for higher amperage which allows my card to clock to 2700mhz at 315 watts of power draw on air.
@Tomasz Kaczor your right. Unfortunately i cant really oc my memory due to thermal issues. Most i can get is 2100mhz on memory but it makes the biggest difference in fps when ocd giving double digit improvements on olmos every game.
what is the difference between the extreme and regular time spy? because i ran the 3dmark demo time spy just now and got 22,881 total score and the gpu score was 27,274 and cpu was 11,963...this is with a 5900x @ all core 4.5ghz and a zotac 4080...
On the cat, cat prefer to play with the toy acting more like prey that a annoying fly. That is, it go into and out of sight, some what far away and with burst of movement. Regardless, your cats look like they are doing pretty well.
My 4090 kill IT on 450 Watts Limit. Even i do UV to 330 Watts with 0.950V. AMD did a great Job with 6900xt my son now had. But the 7000 cards are Shit.
can i use the Elmore EVC2 on teh PowerColor Fighter RX 7900 GRE so i can give the GRE More power foa better OC ?? and Ram OC... i already modded my 7900 GRE 16GB with Faster GDDR6 that i bought online. . and i saw 3 & 4GB chips... (though teh 3-4GB chips are slighty slower.. but i also got 2GB chips @ 20Gbps and 24Gbps or 22Gbps... and have rework station ( i want to try todouble the GDDR from 16 to 24 or even 32GB (if posible and if these 4GB GDDR6 chips are real and they are 18 to 21Gbps speed... 3Gbps ones are 22 and 2GB ones are 24Gbps.. i have teh 2GB 24Gbps on pcb now. and work with no vbios moding (same vendor samsung)... 4GB ones are the 2x stacked ones.... and were not cheap... they better be real
Have you tried watercooling and then overclocking your cats? Maybe you could achieve 1.3x jump height and 1.75x peak running speed boost if my calculations are accurate. Worth a try maybe
@@elonwong Potentially yes, but various breeds of cats react differently to watercooling so precise testing would be neat to use as a baseline for future comparison!
@@Real_MisterSir I think roman's Cats under the product line "Norwegian Forest" and "Maine Coon", are both susceptible to performance gains under watercooled conditions 😋
increasing voltage applied to a cat is a key. But, you must be extremely cautios, its internal structure is not adapted to prolonged overload and can suddenly fail. Also, your own interface can be severely damaged in process of applying and especially after detaching voltage
AMD: ‘we could make a card as fast as the 4090 but we wanted power to be reasonable’ Roman: ‘hold my beer’ To be fair the xtx doesn’t have a fully enabled die but… still.
Dk if this could be further improved by going sub zero, but if possible I would love to see this in a video. Same with the 4090 to see how hard we can maximally push them 😂
@@Kriss_gaming_hole This is false. Plenty of GPUs have been benched using liquid nitrogen with no such issues, for years now. On this channel, as well as Gamer's Nexus, and JayzTwoCents. All of the top GPU scores on 3dMark are using sub zero cooling, and these guys aren't killing their GPUs from it.
Re-calibrating the vrm controller still works on the 7000 -series! Nice! (sad that they took away mpt power and voltage increasing though) Imagine how fast that would be with direct die heat transfer to bring down those 100c temps. Once the temp gets above 80c or so the voltage / frequency just scales horribly bad. Could be really fast!
Really fun seeing this kind of stuff. Also, the 3DMark leaderboards are an absolute mess because they list *all* of your results, not just your best with a given configuration. I swear half of the 4090 HOF is literally 2 dudes that did dozens of runs each.
You can switch it to "Leaderboard" at the top left and it shows only the best score from each user. Been using 3D Mark for years now, only just learned this a few months ago lol.
Eh the 4090 will pull 660w overclocked. This isn’t that crazy. Power density is no longer dropping so we should expect power to continue to rise. AMD said they expect 750w gpus in the next few years. Which sucks but that’s where we are with silicon.
![AMD RX 7900 XTX Reference Vs Sapphire RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ [Overclocking | Power | Thermals]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-yUp-vl9cFE/mqdefault.jpg)
Even German kitties appreciate keeping to a well planned schedule.
German cats are very efficiently just like Tiger and Panther and Leopard tank
@@stepbruv8780 I wouldn't compare them to your average nerds house cat.
Kinda weird having the cat in every video is he a zoofile?
I bet kitties also like the heat from the GPU. :)
@@chrisbullock6477 BRUH THOSE AIN'T YOUR AVERAGE NERDS HOUSE CAT. THOSE ARE REAL GIGACAT THAT CAN BLASTED YOUR ASS AND YA HOUSE.
I love it when you do this crazy stuff , it just proves to me how silly it is. With my 7900xtx MBA under a waterblock I can get 16100 gpu score whilst using under 400w. To gain 10% performance for a 50% increase in power is madness and not something I will ever be aspiring too.
LtMatt is on the leaderboard so many times because each entry is with a different card. He had the Merc , Red Devil and Nitro+ and kept the Sapphire card.
Actually, the only entry on there is with the Nitro. I also never had the Red Devil. Tried the Nitro, Merc, TUF and Aorus. Nitro was the best overall. TUF would be one of the best but the power limit is lower sadly.
@@TheMattB81 I just ordered a nitro too replace my pulse for the higher power target.
Even if you use identical hardware, it will still show individual runs on the leaderboard.
@@TheMattB81 The Nitro I have looks limited to 463W with two 8pin and one daisy chain. Is that the power limit with three single 8pin? I'm not assuming the gpu can tell. Managed to squeeze out 10043 on 8k superposition with the stock air cooler.
@@MasterSoda360 Yes, 467W is the max power limit, however it's typically shown as 463W by most software and on overlays. Not sure if you ever watched my videos on YT, but on my overlays you'll see it hitting the 463W frequently at 4K.
Loving the 7900 XTX content. Your high hotspot temps might be limiting your boost clocks. My air cooled XFX Merc 310 managed 17300 score on 450-475 watts. If you can get the hotspot to below 90°C you might be able to get a much higher score.
The ridges on that backplate are no joke. It’s also so damn long it has good pass through on the heatsink despite the large pcb that nvidia ditched with ampere and Lovelace for better cooling. It also has good thermal interface material for the backplate.
Hi chosen one. I am about to water cool my merc 310 on air I get 2850mhz with 55% fan speed. What is your stable oc? Cause if i push my fans at 100% i can get 3000mhz +. Hope i can get same with water cooling at a normal noise levels.
@@aurelAli1919 You'll easily get whatever you can achieve with your fans at 100% if you have a properly-mounted cooler and a good radiator setup. Now, is it necessarily worth it to sit at 3100 MHz instead of say 2900-2950? You'll have to do some benchmarks to find out.
@@quintrapnell3605 Yeah, the backplate on the Merc 310 seems to be really good and contributes a good amount to the cooling.
Yeah I just got my XFX 2 days ago and the headroom is insane. Still playing around with it but am througouhly impressed with what they did.
I've had 3 XTX Tai-Chi's come through the shop and each one could hold 3200MHz GPU clock with just a +15% power bump. Really liking these XTX cards. Finally 3GHz GPU's.
Are you talking about a bump to the voltage? I'm new to overclocking. My xfx comed at 1150 stock but when I turn it down to 1050 it goes from 2800mhz to 3050.
@beeman4266 no, most likely talking about wattage, so a stock XTX consumes a max of 355W, so 15%+ power would be roughly 410W
This shows the potential of this card and reveals their plan to release an updated version mid cycle. I think we might see something more impressive than the typical Ti or -50 model.
I don't think we'll ever see a 4090 competitor this generation--AMD has been all about efficiency and they would have to push this architecture way into the inefficient end of the curve to achieve that sort of performance. But maybe we'll see some sort of update with at least a decent bump. Here's hoping!
Soon it'll be 800 watts to play 4k games hahaha
@@thicclink There are few leaks about 7950xtx and 7990xtx (which will be the 1st gpu with 3d cache).
Also a few leaks about gaming performance beating the 4090, but these are fakes probably
@@karserasl now 3d vcache could really bump up the efficiency and make a big difference. I'll be excited to see that!
@__karsl__ my 4090 is clocked at 3000mhz and never gets over 230 watts..
Liquid metal on the die (correct precautions taken if course) should help tame those Hotspot temps. Did an OC run on Vega 64 a few days ago. Hit 500w power draw. Under chilled water GPU temp hit 37c and hotspot was only 50c. A good LM application will help bring down the Delta between HS and GPU temp.
Yeah, someone should tell Der8auer about this liquid metal stuff. I'm surprised he's never heard of it.
@@hellraserfleshlight 🤣🤣 Nice come back.
@@hellraserfleshlight He should use Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut LM. I hope he gets some. 🤣
It's not worth bricking a very expensive gpu for a 2 or 3 degree temperature difference.
@@luminatrixfanfiction 90 -> 50 is not 3 degrees lol
It is sad that the ability to use MPT was taken away with this gen. It was nice to be able to just click a few times and be running at a solid 350W on a 6900XT, with the ability to still turn it up 15% with the OEM tuning software.
with MPT i pulled 615watt from my RX 6900 XT Red Devil Ultimate with waterblok. Got to set a few nice records on ambient with that setup. When I found out that MPT was not possible this gen, it actually stopped me from getting a 7900 XTX.
Damn didn't know that, no wander people aren't using these with ln2. Not too mention 6000bseries was killing themselves at idle on ln2.
AMD as always proves that they are just a red Nvidia
Cat in the opening shot. This man knows how to hook a viewer.
The best of two worlds, cats and gpus ❤ you're the best Roman!
At 3200 MHZ, the 7900 XTX should be able to outperform and match the 4090 in lots of games. I am wondering if these clocks will be possible in the future with just driver updates because with the 6000 series, power consumption was significantly dropped with just driver updates.
No. To get to 3GHz a refresh or a new revision of the silicon will be required.
Not even at 4K raytracing it would still lose by significant amounts by the 4090.
@@PowellCat745 uhm hate to break it to you but my 7900 XTX does around 3350-3450MHz
(spoiler it doesn't beat the 4090 in TSe but it comes close)
@@counterassy yes yes good job, but are your frametimes better than with a good undervolt in your games. Get off the benchmark. I only notice about 2-5 fps increase from big OC, Your OC is much larger than what iǘe tested but still it seems that you can achieve more with a different method on 5nm TSMC. Good of you to say the 4090 still wins tho
Cats in the frame - +100% success rate of the video! =)
What a beast of a card! Its a shame its so rare, even more here in Brazil. Amazing work Mr. der8auer!
In my 7900xtx nitro plus at 465w I have an average of 15% more fps than stock model in cyberpunk native 4k clock is around 2900mhz. Gaming clock at 3350mhz is crazy. I would like to see a test on the amd platform with SAM on. Certainly the results would make a greater impression than those in 3d mark.
I got the same card. It can hit 3200 in games but it will crash. Stable enough to progress but pita too
@@quintrapnell3605 Depending on the game you have a different game clock. In modern warfare 2 you can have a stable clock at 3200mhz. For MW2 I have set 3300mhz@1081v this gives in-game clocks of 3100-3250mhz. But to achieve such clocks in cyberpunk is already a challenge.
I was able to reach 3.3gh peak clocks with a really good reference card, but it was both power and cooling limited on it, so it would hit those clocks in games then actually drop clockspeed by a lot so it would ultimately result in less performance. My current Tiachi will comfortably sit around 3.1ghz without issues while sucking down 465ish watts
I just can’t be bothered to tune for every game when it involves sitting through crashes that might take an hour to appear then reloading everything and doing it again. Maybe if I only played one game.
@@quintrapnell3605 Overclocking RDNA3 is not easy, if you don't have the patience and you have errors, then play with factory settings.
Where to get that Power Meter?!
Couple days ago I had to "repaste" my Asrock Aqua xtx, I used a kryosheet that I cut to size. Hotspot only hits 60s @ max draw, which is either 525w or 545w with Asrocks newest BIOS.
Holy cow! Nice! I know it's not efficient but pushing the limits is so fun!
Are we now measuring Videocards in numbers of Cats or Cats in numbers of video cards?
This makes me wish there were an equivalent to 3090 K|NGP|N cards for AMD. The closest to that was the 6900XT sapphire toxic. RIP EVGA 😢
Thank you for a great video. I am looking in to push my 2070S further, and this i s a good inspi.
I have a PNY 2070 Super "mini", it have been amazing to push, running up 2230@700 with a msi bios flash.
Pushing 251 watt, but I know I got temp and power to push to 300W.
But too bad you didnt try do make a run on a bit greater cpu. Could have been a nice touch with a top 3;)
thats crazy! thanks for showing us what this can do. Any chance you can share the BIOS for my red devil 7900xtx to try this pleaseeee
WOW!!! Can't wait to see cards hit a base of 4ghz and higher in the future. 3ghz was already impressive, hitting 3.4ghz is... just unbelievable!
Now the red LED light makes it look like some metallic part glowing
A few gaming benchmarks weren't possible? Would be interested to see the scaling of performance up there. I wouldn't have expected much, but oh well, still a great video and nice mod. Very interesting, thanks
Wait. So you "accidentally" proved here, that 3 8 Pin pcie are enough for 600w+. I mean it was already clear beforehand, since the 12vEPS 8 Pin and the 8 Pin pcie are basically the same, with pcie having one more ground pin and one less 12v. So the pcie 8 pin can carry 300w (EPS12v) * 3/4 = 225w each. making the safe powerinput through 3 pcie 8 pin 675w. So 450w 4090s could get away with 2 PCIe 8 pins (and like 50w through the slot just to be safe) and higher end Models with 3.
Now we need LN2
I don't even care about GPUs anymore, I'm here just for Makita and shiek
Those temps are nutz at that power.
Me with my air cooled 7900XT 60c at 300w 😭
Seeing that you have an Corsair Power supply i would check the Amp current those can deliver on the 12V rails especially on the GPU Rails i have that Problem before and had to find out that Corsair PSUs can't deliver much in terms of Amp (only ~50A as far as i remember) i then switched to a Seasonic 1600W PSU with 75A for 20ms on those rails and my Problem was "mostly" gone.
Disclosure: i had damaged my Vega FE and had burned out a Computing Core under Air, and now, if the driver decide to use that Core (Core 0), cause a short with an Amp spike of something around 60A, The seasonic PSU can "mostly" power through but sometimes it is too long and triggers the protection. having re fit this damaged Card to water makes at least sure nothing else burned out.
Many PSU are kind of Weak on this specific Rail and i had to search specifically for a High Amp PCIe Rail PSU to overcome the Problem. 600Watts are definitely something a Corsair PCIe Rail struggle with Ampere wise.
hahaha there's a satan head on my video card ... totally rolling on my soft carpeted floor laughing !
1:09, dude that cable orientation makes me feel like I'm being choked.
I'm actually curious about the flipside of at least one of the comments to this video...
A lot of people just pick up whatever video card they want, put it in their system and run with it - especially not even watercooling it unless it comes that way. I'm curious how far you can push a card under those circumstances. Nowhere near as much, for sure, but I'm definitely curious!
Nice work, looks like LN2 is needed to control the temps.
So 600W, without a 12VHPWR connector, just pure 8 pins? Hmm.
That power read is a cool gadget, did you buy it or make it?
Cool content, keep it up man !
It is amazing how far you can push the card without an OC until you hit a voltage wall.
Does the load get evenly distributed between the PCIe power connectors? I guess ideally it should, but i'm not sure how the controller on the GPU side works.
Good to see that AMD still can take the same juice as nvidia 650+watts it needs to kick some gaming performance up. I guess the hotspots making it inefficient, some transistors maybe at that point start to conflict and corrupt the image with artifacts. Good video German boy
Wow, I guess this is why my Sapphire Nitro+ melted one of my PSU pcie cables then.
I have since set the sapphire to silent mode so it doesnt boost so much. What I think was happening is me using an exploit on son of the forest, logging off and back on again so I could loot the ammo boxes again and again, it was in single player, im not that lame :D But each time I logged in again would require more juice from the card and was overloading the pcie cables
ESD safe cat? :)
Soldering 12v wires on plate! :)
Im kinda new to overclocking, can someone explain what happened? My stock xtx runs at 1150 mv, he had his running at around 1040mv right? Mine likes to run around 1060mv and I can generay hit 3050mhz. I only have an xtx on air though.
Hey derbauer i have a pavillion gaming laptop and it has ryzen 3550H its TDP is 35watts so i noticed something after a bios update ,
BEFORE BIOS UPDATE(REVISION F.14) : so the cpu used to draw around 10-15 watts when gaming and while running geekbench and cpu temps were 85-90
AFTER THE BIOS UPDATE(F.16): now the cpu draws 50 watts while running geek bench and while gaming it averages at 25-30 watts at 85c
So my question is ,is it normal for a 35watt cpu to draw around 50watts
Dang, your cat looks massive! How big is he (she)?
Which power meter is that? I'm intrigued
try a gpu with an ASIC under 25%. My Taichi does this on stock bios on stock cooler with just thermal pads and liquid metal. I bought a ch341a, but haven't found a reason to flash the aqua bios to the card as it's already insane lol
You make great, good quality videos but i wish they were in an ultrawide aspect ratio. 16:9 doesn't look too great on my mobile devices
99% of users are 16.9 makes no logical sense to change that for the 1%
Miss the old AMD. They allowed to increase the power limit by 50% and they didn't limit memory clock. They still allow more overclocking than Nvidia but it's nothing like the old days
Hello, A 7900 XTX @ stock + i9 9900K @ stock + 32 GB ddr4 ram. With a Seasonic 650 W titanium power supply, Can this work? ty :)
Have you tried anything with an Asus TUF 4070ti OC 12GB?
GPU advice please: my plan was to get the "very best RTX4090" which money can buy, (which I heard is the Asus Rog Strix OC version) & put a EK dual active custom waterblock on it. But if the board itself barely varies between companies, & I'm planning on stripping away the fans & heatsink it comes with anyway, would who assembles the GPU even matter anymore? And if not, could you please tell us which is the best pre-custom-waterblocked (NOT AOI but to be added to a custom waterloop) RTX4090 GPU available, please?
P.s. any rumours about a RTX4090 super or any other variation of the RTX4090 that comes with a display port 2.1? There are displays being released for which the existing display 1.4a would be a bottleneck, so I find that outdated display port tech off-putting, when even lower spec AMD GPUs use display port 2.1 now.
Is it possible just edit bios to fully unlock power limit and such? Is it harder than soldering some ugly wires?
No
Wait, cats don't usually just stare at you like you're an idiot when you use those toys with them? Mine just looks at me like I'm a complete idiot and does nothing!
love the kitty!
Need to try some better cooling
My 6900xt is pushed to 385 watts but i dont push it that high. I just did the mod for higher amperage which allows my card to clock to 2700mhz at 315 watts of power draw on air.
the problem with rdna2 is too slow memory. 7900xtx does not have this problem so the results after OC are much higher.
@Tomasz Kaczor your right. Unfortunately i cant really oc my memory due to thermal issues. Most i can get is 2100mhz on memory but it makes the biggest difference in fps when ocd giving double digit improvements on olmos every game.
100C junction at 630W makes me feem better about my 85C at 450W. I was a little worried that my card may need to be RMA'd
"Should be 6 or 7 ohms..." - famous last words before you were bent to her will :p
We need some gaming benchmarks.
what is the difference between the extreme and regular time spy? because i ran the 3dmark demo time spy just now and got 22,881
total score and the gpu score was 27,274 and cpu was 11,963...this is with a 5900x @ all core 4.5ghz and a zotac 4080...
1080p vs 4k
What would be the highest acceptable "core" temperature for this GPU?
Es gibt nur wenige Dinge, die besser sind, als Videos mit Gadse - zum Beispiel Videos mit obszönen GPU-Taktraten + Gadse :D
Makita? Should have named it to Milwaukee so batteries would last longer between play times.
Very cool!
I have a Asus RTX 4080 is it possible for you to Unlock it and show what it would do?
When are you going to start selling those meters? I want one
only 650w?
What's the CUDA performance? Oh wait..
Ahh so technically it was the cat who boosted the GPUs power with its cute meows hmmmm interesting.
My 7900 xtx pulls 450w steady and up to 555w spikes.
Do a 7900xt next
Makes you wonder how I and others are able to pull 500+ watts from the 2080 ti with xoc bios on 2x 8pin
Super cool.
The impressive thing is that it's on WATER
Would this beat an undervolted 4090? 🤔
I need to watch the whole video before commenting, homie answered my question lol
the normal xtx beats it in battlefield 5 warzone far cry 6 etc so i think it would or very very close
your cat is 100% RTX
On the cat, cat prefer to play with the toy acting more like prey that a annoying fly.
That is, it go into and out of sight, some what far away and with burst of movement.
Regardless, your cats look like they are doing pretty well.
time for some liquid metal and see what this card can really do :)
My 4090 kill IT on 450 Watts Limit. Even i do UV to 330 Watts with 0.950V. AMD did a great Job with 6900xt my son now had. But the 7000 cards are Shit.
can i use the Elmore EVC2 on teh PowerColor Fighter RX 7900 GRE so i can give the GRE More power foa better OC ?? and Ram OC... i already modded my 7900 GRE 16GB with Faster GDDR6 that i bought online. . and i saw 3 & 4GB chips... (though teh 3-4GB chips are slighty slower.. but i also got 2GB chips @ 20Gbps and 24Gbps or 22Gbps... and have rework station ( i want to try todouble the GDDR from 16 to 24 or even 32GB (if posible and if these 4GB GDDR6 chips are real and they are 18 to 21Gbps speed... 3Gbps ones are 22 and 2GB ones are 24Gbps.. i have teh 2GB 24Gbps on pcb now. and work with no vbios moding (same vendor samsung)... 4GB ones are the 2x stacked ones.... and were not cheap... they better be real
Have you tried watercooling and then overclocking your cats? Maybe you could achieve 1.3x jump height and 1.75x peak running speed boost if my calculations are accurate. Worth a try maybe
water cooling alone would probably enable her to achieve such level of performances ☺️
@@elonwong Potentially yes, but various breeds of cats react differently to watercooling so precise testing would be neat to use as a baseline for future comparison!
He wouldn't want to delid the cat.
@@Real_MisterSir I think roman's Cats under the product line "Norwegian Forest" and "Maine Coon", are both susceptible to performance gains under watercooled conditions 😋
increasing voltage applied to a cat is a key. But, you must be extremely cautios, its internal structure is not adapted to prolonged overload and can suddenly fail. Also, your own interface can be severely damaged in process of applying and especially after detaching voltage
came for the card stayed for the kitty
so cute
You have multiple scores from same people because you have the search mode set to score explorer not leaderboard (drop down in the top left)
haha nice thanks!
AMD: ‘we could make a card as fast as the 4090 but we wanted power to be reasonable’
Roman: ‘hold my beer’
To be fair the xtx doesn’t have a fully enabled die but… still.
Kinda crazy
I’m not surprised AMD has always been the power hungry one.
@@ZackSNetwork RDNA 2 isn't more power hungry than than Ampere. Did you not mean that literally?
@@ZackSNetwork since when?
What do you mean about XTX not being fully enabled?
Dk if this could be further improved by going sub zero, but if possible I would love to see this in a video. Same with the 4090 to see how hard we can maximally push them 😂
not a good idea as gpus dont have an ihs like a cpu and the die could (more like would) crack going subzero
@@Kriss_gaming_hole This is false. Plenty of GPUs have been benched using liquid nitrogen with no such issues, for years now. On this channel, as well as Gamer's Nexus, and JayzTwoCents. All of the top GPU scores on 3dMark are using sub zero cooling, and these guys aren't killing their GPUs from it.
@@neurokinetik well color me surprised then
Re-calibrating the vrm controller still works on the 7000 -series! Nice! (sad that they took away mpt power and voltage increasing though)
Imagine how fast that would be with direct die heat transfer to bring down those 100c temps. Once the temp gets above 80c or so the voltage / frequency just scales horribly bad. Could be really fast!
like for the kitty.
As for the 3dmark scores, you can select to view all scores or by leaderboard, which only shows the high score from each user.
Best cat tech channel out there
I like how the "organized" ATX connector wires on the hetzner server completely block the airflow for the cpu cooler.
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Since this is a server, the fan likely more than compensate for this obstruction to airflow.
Data centres cool from front to back or back to front using delta fans it won't matter at all
They wouldn’t use CableMod cables in a server anyway. It’s just a demo unit. In reality it’s ketchup and mustard from a server power supply.
This is wild. I bought this card because of your praise. Cant wait to finish the build and try it out!
Fuck Efficiency We want Power
So, the RTX4090 is the fastest GPU on the market with good efficency for the perfomance.
Really fun seeing this kind of stuff.
Also, the 3DMark leaderboards are an absolute mess because they list *all* of your results, not just your best with a given configuration. I swear half of the 4090 HOF is literally 2 dudes that did dozens of runs each.
You can choose to only show your best result and hide all the other runs. They just don't bother.
@@madb132 It should really default to that tbh.
You can switch it to "Leaderboard" at the top left and it shows only the best score from each user. Been using 3D Mark for years now, only just learned this a few months ago lol.
wow kitty 😍
So... that 3x8 pin 180 adapter with power measurement .... where can we get our hands on it?
Shame fusion power is still 30:years away
I dunno, a lot of the internet seems to be harnassing shame power these days :)
Eh the 4090 will pull 660w overclocked. This isn’t that crazy. Power density is no longer dropping so we should expect power to continue to rise. AMD said they expect 750w gpus in the next few years. Which sucks but that’s where we are with silicon.
@@jolness1 700w is insane
My kettle barely uses that
@@Tautolonaut power shaming. I like it :)
I would worry more about getting the heat out of the case and out of the room first before the electricity bill.
beautiful cats
Dual rx w6800 were more efficient than this. What mess AMD have done this gen.
BTW, great overclock👍🏻
Just attach the meter probes to the cat paws and dangle the video card. Boom doing two things at once 😂