Plane Crashes, Suicide, and Vaccines

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  • One thing my channel is about, the other two it is not, yet here I am talking about it. Covers the 2021 crash in Oregon of a Cessna 560, along with the F-16 supersonic intercept of a Citation in June. Some crazy conspiracy theories have developed, but the truth is rooted in reality.

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  • @johnmac9055
    @johnmac9055 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yours is a fine example of Bayesian reasoning. You will never be able to satisfy all the crackpot conspiracy theory advocates that populate the web. Perhaps they will move on to other TH-cam channels. I for one appreciate your logical analysis and approach in portraying these accidents. Thanks.

  • @alk672
    @alk672 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Suicides are kinda difficult to prove unless there's a note. By the time we have to consider suicide I'm afraid we've run out of meaningful facts and entered an area of speculation.

    • @Vmaxfodder
      @Vmaxfodder ปีที่แล้ว

      Insurance does not pay out suicides.

  • @CAROLUSPRIMA
    @CAROLUSPRIMA ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thank you for an adult conversation. I swear, any time a possible pilot incapacitation occurs Dan Gryder and that crowd go straight to “the jab” and they are convinced beyond risk of contrary persuasion. So it’s never a helpful or meaningful discussion.

    • @mebeingU2
      @mebeingU2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @carolu, that’s why I stopped watching his vids…well, it’s one of the reasons.

    • @CAROLUSPRIMA
      @CAROLUSPRIMA ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mebeingU2 Yes, there are other reasons.
      There’s some sort of cult of personality going on over there because they brook nothing that could even slightly be construed as criticism of Gryder. And he’s the most thin-skinned of the bunch.
      I try to be civil and I’m not in the habit of badmouthing people. But I’ll make an exception for one who researches and doxes anyone with anything that might remotely be construed as disagreement and seems to enjoy belittling some poor pilot mere hours after the person has been burned and/or mangled to death due to an error that I’m not even certain he made.
      And there are other reasons . . .

    • @bobirving6052
      @bobirving6052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I’ll check Dan’s channel. Sounds like me Gryner knows what he talking about.

    • @zappatx
      @zappatx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bobirving6052 I don't understand the complaints. Dan is like most of us. Those complaining have the thin skin.. The jabs are GMO and cause serious inflammation. As time ascends we are confirming more of this..

  • @tommynikon2283
    @tommynikon2283 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Re: @1:00+ I knew, worked w/ the pilot....Rick Boehlke. We worked together at Crossings Aviation/Tacoma-Narrows FBO. Long story short, Rick had some business sleight-of-hand history; not everything was on the up and up. Money for operations was a shell game. He lived (very) large; owned (5) a/c, including a Lear 25 and T-28. At the same time; his private hangar was called "Rick's Toybox". He failed his Lear check...twice. He wasn't a great pilot....often shirted some safety protocols. All that said....I could see this going either way; a suicide or health issues. A suicide because of mounting financial pressures- and possibly to whom he owed money, and health wise because- he wasn't a health advocate, doing nothing when I knew him. Exercise wasn't a part of his lifestyle. Lastly, I had heard a rumor that he wasn't even legal to fly what he buried in the dirt. THAT wouldn't surprise me at all.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was not typed in the Citation. That’s official and in the NTSB report. I hadn’t heard about the Lear checkrides.

  • @griam7641
    @griam7641 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Good and well thought out analysis. My personal opinion is this was not a suicide, but when it comes to suicide, I don’t think there is a “norm”. Also, when it comes to airplanes, I’ve seen people spend ungodly amounts of money they don’t have.

  • @gnarthdarkanen7464
    @gnarthdarkanen7464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just gonna say, if it's suicide you wanna argue, look to Germanwings 9525. The kind of thing someone does to deliberately end their life usually has very deliberate signatures to their activities and the respondent activity of their airplane. The Germanwings incident is a bit more obvious as we've had bigger collections of evidence and armies of experts to pick everything apart, but if we just take that step back and LOOK at the "flight profile" of the respective planes in comparison, there really is no resemblance. In the end, AND with plenty of fuel to get anywhere to land safely, the Germanwings plane simply and deliberately nosed down and accelerated into the side of a mountain in easily VFR conditions... There's no question what it was... and flight recorders be damned.
    In THIS incident, the plane is pretty clearly uncontrolled and entering into the "infamous death spiral" of deteriorating power while it runs out of fuel with nobody willing or capable of engaging inputs to do anything about it. Are the passengers suffering their own medical events, too? Is it hypoxia from a decompression? Did the few who might've been awake and aware have any knowledge of flying or were they just too scared sh*tless to move???
    We don't know. What we CAN bet "smart money" on is that the plane likely ran out of fuel and slowed to its eventual stall and crash speed, the same as many others have through the years. ;o)

  • @jamesm3471
    @jamesm3471 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Helios 522 crashed in 2005, memorable because it occurred after 9/11, so you had Athens and the Hellenic Air-force even more freaked out by the non responsive 737.

  • @Vmaxfodder
    @Vmaxfodder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude , I wished you were my instructor

  • @mattanders7617
    @mattanders7617 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great vid, look forward to the next one

  • @jacobrcow5233
    @jacobrcow5233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta be one of the best aviation youtube channels, keep it up.

  • @dvpro1
    @dvpro1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Appreciate the video. For some reason, the way you speak, the choice of vocabulary, the subtleties in the adjectives you choose just stick. I sincerely wish you'd make a flight training program. I'm done with ppl checkride prep, waiting on the DPE to get me on his books.... All the while my written score of a 73 - 22 years ago still grants me a viable student pilots license. I can't seem to score higher then an 88 on practice tests...my intention is clear, my results are not. Life is a bit fickle, ain't it?
    While I take a break from tee-storm stages, light gun signals and a seemingly unending amount of knowledge I still need to earn, I bought your book. Amazon charged me 8 bucks, I hope you get most of it. I won't read it until my written is done, it's a discipline I casted upon myself, and I'm not too happy about that. Back to trying to figure out why steady precipitation precedes a front😂😔

  • @Ryan-mq2mi
    @Ryan-mq2mi 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lol title. What a channel. Super smart, aviation content, based & God-pilled creator
    How did I find this...

  • @andyquinn1125
    @andyquinn1125 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done, lad! As an Internet vet since early 80s: You will waste your time in disputation. Don't. Not saying you shouldn't. But don't

  • @RyJones
    @RyJones ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the thoughtful video. I appreciate your tone and methods. I never got beyond a student license but if I owned a plane I’d be getting $100 hamburgers every day I could! Jaunting to Boise is as good an excuse as any.

  • @Vmaxfodder
    @Vmaxfodder ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent breakdown if I ever seen

  • @iansmith5174
    @iansmith5174 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you put a Citation jet in a steep dive at high altitude at cruise power, the jet will overspeed near the mach and break up in flight because of the overstressing of the airframe.

  • @donparnell309
    @donparnell309 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    People who commit suicide often do not use rational thought process. Sometimes people who commit suicide kill their family because they don't the family struggling to make it after they are gone. So you could argue a suicidal pilot would want to take his dog with him because he doesn't know how it will be taken care off after he is gone. Also a con man who has several bankruptcies probably would not be concerned about another one. Why should they? They have had bankruptcies before and managed to recover from them in the past.

  • @kevinfraser573
    @kevinfraser573 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just found your channel. You are doing a great job. We can have different opinions. I like your style and content. Keep it up. When I get a chance, I will buy your aviation books as well.

  • @19537644
    @19537644 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, Sir, for this video and indeed, thank you for all of your videos. I have learned and relearned a lot of valuable information. Retraining practices and information keep them fresh and in the forefront. To my point, 31 years ago, a good friend was depressed. Some days upbeat, some days down. He had just completed the requirements for his PPL and often rented a plane from the local provider. The last few days he was at work, he was at first very down, then he did a quick shift as though everything was suddenly great in his life. The next day, he just told his wife, "I'll see ya" and rented a plane. He crashed in what the NTSB stated was a "deliberate maneuver and manner". He is missed still by many who called him their friend, including me.

  • @kevinfraser573
    @kevinfraser573 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you want to commit insurance fraud by ending your life you have to make it look real. Otherwise the insurance company isn't going to pay out. I'm of the opinion that the Oregon pilot did himself in. The other pilot , had an medical emergency. I agree, it is speculative and subjective, no different than MH 370. I could be wrong, just my opinion.

  • @Vmaxfodder
    @Vmaxfodder ปีที่แล้ว

    Strokes can reduce your mental capacity to a 3 year old

  • @N1611n
    @N1611n ปีที่แล้ว

    We will never know, so far speculation.

  • @markbowen3638
    @markbowen3638 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, informative and logically reasoned conclusions. Way to much speculation as to the cause of such accidents. It's what makes your channel so refreshing! Keep up the good work. Best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @viperdriver82
    @viperdriver82 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow man ....u do a comprehensive deep dive on these videos....u earned my Sub

  • @georgeallensmo
    @georgeallensmo ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video

  • @malcolmmarzo2461
    @malcolmmarzo2461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is much too early to dismiss the role of the covid shot in accidents. A growing body of evidence and what many dissenting scientists have been saying about neurological damage has to be taken into account. Heck, a number of over-the-counter drugs are known hazards - let alone a substance that has bypassed the usual safety trials.

  • @Commander-McBragg
    @Commander-McBragg ปีที่แล้ว

    Check out the Rockwell commander crash in mesa at the Superstition Mountains… if ever there was a coverup.

  • @rjobrien7805
    @rjobrien7805 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I respect that you've put a considerable amount of time into your videos and your technical opinion as pro pilot carries significant clout That being said, your hypothesis that the lawyers would be filing lawsuits left right and center regarding the jabs is misguided. Big pharma has been exempt from liability since 1986 for fully tested vaccines never mind experimental therapeutics administered under emergency use authorization.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      To quote: “The VICP is designed to encourage vaccination by providing a streamlined system for compensation in rare instances where an injury results from vaccination. Over the past 35 years, the VICP has succeeded in providing a less adversarial, less expensive, and less time-consuming system of recovery than the traditional tort system that governs medical malpractice, personal injury, and product liability cases. Almost 9,500 people have been paid in excess of $4.5 billion since the Program’s 1988 inception.”
      There is no exemption for deaths caused by vaccines…

    • @rjobrien7805
      @rjobrien7805 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@flyingformoney777 Read the 1986 bill, deaths are exempt from liability and therefore included in the VICP. I pasted the relevant text but of course pootube removed it and it's not opinion, it's fact. Read the bill.

  • @rustyheckler8766
    @rustyheckler8766 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My understanding is that the Big Parma companies that produced the jab were given immunity to lawsuits, not sure if that immunity could be overcome in court or if there would need to be an act of congress to remove the immunity. The lawyer thing isn't a good metric, since there is a massive legal hill they would have to summit in order to even begin a class action.
    Personally, I do not think the "Jab" was a factor, just wanted to point out the intellectual inconsistency in the rational given.

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There is an exemption for “willful misconduct.” If there was a coverup of vaccine related deaths that would 100% be “willful misconduct.” Lawyers would be clamoring…

    • @professionalantivaxxer4065
      @professionalantivaxxer4065 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@flyingformoney777That type of argument is often referred to as an "assumptive argument."

    • @danielhalvorsen542
      @danielhalvorsen542 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠A conspiracy fabulist calling out assumptive reasoning. That’s rich. 😂

  • @stevenkovler5133
    @stevenkovler5133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have to tell you, I have been going through a lot of stuff ,including finances that are killing me. I believe that besides my finances and a tough marriage , the Covid Vaccine also has caused me to develop anxiety!

    • @flyingformoney777
      @flyingformoney777  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry for that. Keep your chin up. Sounds like some tough issues…