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No don't try to pronounce the brazilian name, to complicatec for the average Muricun .

Thanks for speaking the truth. Some youtube channels from Brazil are simply avoiding to speak the truth

Man, so much trash talk in these comments! This video was good info. Every time I took off in a twin Cessna, I visualized flying it to an off airport landing after losing an engine. You have to be okay with that outcome if you fly light twins. If you *happen* to have enough airspeed / altitude to make it back, then great! The moment an engine fails, the insurance company owns it. Airspeed and keeping the ball centered is 1000x more important than anything else.

Poor decision making skills.

Have you ever been scared $hitless? I have. He didn't have enough time to figure it out. He was battling the butterfly flight path. He wasn't experienced enough. He might have froze up. Not judging him in any way. Different culture of high performance motorcycles verus HP aircraft. But one night I was driving on Silverado Trail in Napa Valley. Just wanting to get home after a long shift at the hospital. I had a Suzuki Hayabusa...crotch rocket on Steroids. I was carrying way too much speed. All of a sudden I realized I was way over the speed to take this corner at 60 mph. If you know bikes you know that you don't steer a bike to carve a corner....you lean the bike harder to carve the corner. If I had panicked and hit the front brakes hard it would have stood the bike up and off the road to certain death or severe injuries. If I had hit the rear brake it would have stood the bike up and put me into a skid and loss of control in a tight corner. I literally had no time to think of correct actions. I was flying the bike by instinct and race training at Infineon track days. I just let my training and instinct kick in. I leaned the bike deeper and carved the corner. Pragmatically speaking an unexperienced rider would have hit the brakes and killed himself. My point? It takes training and practice to survive unexpected developments. Make bad decisions at the wrong time and you catch the Grim Reaper with his arm around your shoulder escorting you into another realm.

Established 1903? What does that mean? Are you criticizing the NTSB for issuing reports are unemotional? Silly comment.

Just imagine getring out of the clouds and seeing the city below

Colgan Air and this one both were stalls in icing conditions. Capt Magnar on previous video pointed they started descending without telling ATC about it, then ATC told them to stay at 17k feet for now. Then one of the pilots pulled up very hard and the airplane stalled. So both were like PANIC PULLS by one of the pilots went they went upset. Panic Pulls happen a lot by pilots weak for that. A lot on USA GA too. My 1997 EFATO CFI alerted me not to do that or he will have to shoot me. No BS.

Nossa verdade

well this is depressing commentary lol

Ok we are not the blame no one, is obligation to any pilots training ice conditions , they did not anything , despite many signs.

Excellent, someone must to tell the truth, no to find someone guilty, but to avoid same problems in the future.

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At 1:15 Why describe a stall as flying too slow instead of failing to maintain the proper angle of attack?

I heard from a friend who worked at this company that if any a pilot makes a call for emergency for example he would ended up fired.

Has been released the final report for this terrible accident? No... so dont blame the pilots.. there are many pieces that are missing there, despite the facts until now points to that their acctions contributed to the result its not only their fault! other facts contributed to this, like company pressure to save fuel, time etc, etc etc that might be happened...

How is it legal to fly with one pack defective? Wouldn't it be extremely dangerous if the second pack broke during flight resulting in no fresh air in the cabin?

You did an excelent analysis! 👏👏👏

As a Brazilian, I think it's too precipitated and quite mean to assume that it was the pilot's fault, considering that the inquiry is still to be completed. The preliminary investigations show the plane had deicing malfunctions, the plane had gone through maintenance several times before the crash, so to me, it seems more of a company negligence, rather than a human error alone. No aviation accident happens because of a single reason. As @pedromelicias6124 said, "I wouldn't make such a strong allegation with only a preliminary report in hand"

Brazilian 737 driver here. Very well content and video. It is very unfortunate, but truth what you have said and shown. And i have to thank you for having the guts to do it and show it. Thank you. You got a new sub.

Making a proper point and possibly saving lives is worth the time you put in to make the videos! Ive made a couple Re-creations myself I specified I do not want any tips for those videos. Usually in my videos I leave tip links but those videos I do not. Great job 👏

This is the most solid overview I've seen yet. Still terrible to watch. I used to be a mechanic on ATR72s before I was an airline pilot. Jumpseat on them a few times throughout Alaska.

VMC is the speed you see just before you crash. To begin with most light twins are a disaster on one engine. Any emphasis on VMC being some kind of safe speed will kill you. Multi engine training has always been unrealistic.

So much mimimimi here...

There are many people who chose flying instead of farming.

You said "god bless the pilots who screwed it up" you should delete this vídeo, you are a such asshole.

The moral is Don't F*uck with ICE!!!

Twin engine safety, huh?

It seems to me that these pilots were used to flying in icing conditions and treated the checklist as merely advisory.

As the name says, this is a preliminary report. Also, you can see on the report that the request to descend was a "top of descent", not a request because of icing. But most important, even if the final report points several contributing factors about the pilots, you should remember that they also lost their lives. Their families and friends have to deal with the grief and also see the faces of their loved ones being used in thumbnails like the one in this video. You can talk about the facts and be respectful at the same time. Look at the channel "Aviões e Músicas". It is from Brazil. The guy is respected in his field, has millions of subscribers, makes a lot of money, and you'll never see him pointing his finger in cases like this.

I like your videos! Very descriptive and to the point! ..you have the voice of a lawyer 😅 great job!

Something we will never know is how used to this kind of warnings they were. Sometimes people go through warning so often and nothing serious happen that they start to ignore it and think it normal. "oh it's fine, don't overreact just because this ice warning or low speed, happens all the time" It's like when you do some shit on the road and it works and u start to feel confident enough to do it always. I have no idea if this is the case, but I wonder if it can help to explain their lack of matter for all these signs

The deicing system repeatedly turning on and off was likely due to a malfunction, with the pilots making several attempts to keep it running (possibly because the system never fully activated). Repeating the process might eventually cause it to stay on.

You pronounced CENIPA very well.

This is what im afraid i guess alot of pilots are not well trained

Being certified to fly in icing conditions doesn't mean the airplane is ice proof. The result of an ATR flying into severe icing condition with some malfunctions spoke for itself, and it was not the first, second or third time. This type of airplane has a history of many similar incidents and crashes. This crew believed they were doing the best they could, but unfortunately it was not enough If I had a relative who was as a passenger in that crash, I would be deeply in pain. If I were the father / son of any of the involved pilots, I would be even more in pain, specially after watching a video and comments full of overly unnecessary remarks.

I’m from Brazil. Great content! Rip to everyone involved

Hinton a name of person?

what method

The aircraft ATR 72 is certificate for flight in know Icing Conditions, but the difference in this case is they flew in SEVERE ICING CONDITIONS. In this condition is not certificate any Commercial Aircraft.

Definitely an unprofessional canal.

It eventually could have been caused by pilot's negligence, but let's be honest: this aircraft design sucks.

You did almost NO research. NTSB did not release ANY portion of the black box's tape, at all! Your video is based on rumors, literally.

I'm Brazilian, I have 3 pilots friends whom can't say in public what you said, but it's clear what happened. I agree with you and somebody has to blow the whistle.

🇧🇷here good video Well explained, here in Brazil the situation is not very good with the Twitter ban, I practically don't know any news, I'm just going through life blindly and find out about updates through your very well explained video

Of course you used the pilot’s picture. And yes, it should be depersonalized, you are not right. It just shows you have no basic understanding of what a crash means as a whole. An aviation accident is all about how did we get here. What was lacking in the training process, in the assesment, in the evaluation. Does the airplane have any vulnerability? Does the standard procedure have a vulnerability? If you personalize this and point the finger to an individual, you shift the focus and remove the responsability to change things. Companies (like ATR) loves that, we should’t encourage such social behaviour. This is why I just cannot watch this video. You are off to a very bad start and the rest is irelevant to me, I’ll watch a professional.

🇧🇷here good video Well explained, here in Brazil the situation is not very good with the Twitter ban, I practically don't know any news, I'm just going through life blindly and find out about updates through your very well explained video

This is what happens when people have more money than sense. I would never fly in one of those GA planes if the weather is going to be cloudy.

ATR is a horrible designed aircraft.I would never step foot on one.

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