Thanks for featuring my suggestion guys! I really liked Kyle's point about holding this card for the magical Christmas land situation. That highlights the piloting challenge of this card. Holding out for the perfect value play could mean you lose out on more impactful plays that don't feel as flashy. Great discussion!
1 I tried it in Orvar. I really wanted it to work because it feels like it would be cool, but it never really amounts to much and just rots away in my hand.
Its funny you mentioned comedian bc he has had lists that run this and delayed blast fireball. You can get fireballs alternative mode off of Pako exiling it and casting it using Haldan
What about Mirri’s Guile? I don’t think it sees any play, one green for top deck manipulation at your upkeep seems decent. Is the Top better enough than Guile to void any consideration?
In my experience offer is the best 1 mana counterspell. Better than force of negation, better than Mindbreak trap, better than swansong, especially when you play turbo.
I really only think it's good for tevesh blue decks. I think it reliably builds a floor for this card enough. But the ceiling in tev kraum is getting a tev +2 on a dockside 🎉🥳 🎉
Saw It Coming and Ravenform are 2 other Foretell cards i run in my Bruvac build, as well as Mystic Reflection. One of foretell's strengths is having more than one spell to foretell, especially once your playgroup knows one of them is a counterspell. Raises the tension a bit!
See that’s my fear with foretell in a format where we don’t see it often. It’s so tough to know when to foretell or when not to foretell, especially in a competitive format like ours. It also breaks parity when one opponent may know what you’re playing, and another may not.
Yeah Teveshs’ ability really makes this card pop off. Two mana double dockside or two mana two hullbreaker horrors sounds crazy. I’d love to see if there are any other decks out there in CEDH that creature multiple creatures at once that could benefit from this card like Tevesh can.
Thanks for featuring my suggestion guys! I really liked Kyle's point about holding this card for the magical Christmas land situation. That highlights the piloting challenge of this card. Holding out for the perfect value play could mean you lose out on more impactful plays that don't feel as flashy. Great discussion!
Thanks for the suggestion! See you at our top 4 final table :)
1 I tried it in Orvar. I really wanted it to work because it feels like it would be cool, but it never really amounts to much and just rots away in my hand.
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Its funny you mentioned comedian bc he has had lists that run this and delayed blast fireball. You can get fireballs alternative mode off of Pako exiling it and casting it using Haldan
That's a good card? is back! So hyped!
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It's a little more on the casual side, but I think using this as well as biovisionary and master of waves might be onto something
This must be Do’s burner account
I did the thing that I often tell myself not to do and send a suggestion before actually watching the video, I literally just got to that part LOL
Love the show guys, keep it up
@@couchcommander5280 the fact that you hadn’t heard us talk about biovisionary yet makes this comment 100X funnier lol
This was in comedians tevesh kraum
What about Mirri’s Guile? I don’t think it sees any play, one green for top deck manipulation at your upkeep seems decent. Is the Top better enough than Guile to void any consideration?
Dockside count is probably what holds this card back!
1. Forsure the grixis Sauron loves this card
I think we've all bought and tried to make mystic ref work at least once.... or twice
Ok, three times.
I've used this to turn atraxa and etali into tokens that are trapped in play so they can't be recast.
It’s unique removal in that way! Can’t simply put your important piece back in the command zone.
great to see Xyris getting the love it deserves!
Snakes bow to their leviathan overloard 🐍
In my experience offer is the best 1 mana counterspell. Better than force of negation, better than Mindbreak trap, better than swansong, especially when you play turbo.
incredibly hot take!!! I love the spice
I really only think it's good for tevesh blue decks. I think it reliably builds a floor for this card enough. But the ceiling in tev kraum is getting a tev +2 on a dockside 🎉🥳 🎉
Or orcish bowmaster etb trigger, cast Mystic reflections targeting bowmaster, boom two bowmaster! Broken!
I didn’t even think of this!! That’s BUSTED HAHA
I always foretell this card
Saw It Coming and Ravenform are 2 other Foretell cards i run in my Bruvac build, as well as Mystic Reflection. One of foretell's strengths is having more than one spell to foretell, especially once your playgroup knows one of them is a counterspell. Raises the tension a bit!
See that’s my fear with foretell in a format where we don’t see it often. It’s so tough to know when to foretell or when not to foretell, especially in a competitive format like ours. It also breaks parity when one opponent may know what you’re playing, and another may not.
1 I’ve heard of this because I’m pretty sure it’s a tev kraum staple. Comedian has it in his tev kraum list 😂
Yeah Teveshs’ ability really makes this card pop off. Two mana double dockside or two mana two hullbreaker horrors sounds crazy. I’d love to see if there are any other decks out there in CEDH that creature multiple creatures at once that could benefit from this card like Tevesh can.
@@ThatsAGoodCard What I'm hearing is that I'm basically as good a brewer as Comedian.