@@kethughes8266 that is besides the point. A key promise was that Scotland by being part of UK would be part of the largest free market area in the world, this was debated publicly
@@Gerzzo plenty corruption going on in the SNP these days. Court cases aside, 6 members have resigned ( one of them being the finance minister) because they were not being given the information required to do their job. £600,000 of SNP supporters money cannot be accounted for, is any wonder case numbers are rising in Scotland, because the Track and Protect system is failing to contact those who tested positive in the 24 to 48 hour timescale. Would it be because the system is understaffed after the Scottish Government gave £10 million to the company running Track and Protect, only for the company to put staff on furlough ? Sio where has a percentage of that £10 million gone ? Corruption in the UK gov ? Pot kettle- kettle pot seems appropriate.
@@susannamarker2582 Well isnt it possible that an Independent Scotland can continue with the Queen (or king if she’ll be alive to that day) as the head of state as Australia, Canada ect. also did ;))?
Most of Scotland is pissed on drink, not because we are in the UK... Most people don't care about indy up here, I hardly hear about it. I'm getting on with my life perfectly fine as it is, SNP
@@susannamarker2582 Hardly a fight, madam. A vote is all it takes. And it's quite relevant for Scots to know what the opinion of a potential Scottish independence means in Europe - especially since the indyref was predicated on the UK remaining in the EU.
A Scottish friend of mine told me they don't like the British. I asked why. The British call the Scots sheep herders........ hopefully it will be a free scotland ....get rid of the colonizers.. scotland belongs to the scottish......long live freedom
Why would it matter if the Scots or the English like Boris? He is prime minister because he has shown he will stand up for the UK, not because we like him.
It's what the people want ..the scots want to be part of UK and so do the northern Irish ...what the world wants is irrelevant yr stupid opinion has been noted ....
Why is England scared of it's independence? Scotland according to Westminster figure's costs England more than the EU did. You'd think England would want to vote on it's independence.
Militaraly it's questionable. It puts trident in trouble and also breaks the long standing relationship of Scots serving in the armed forces. It also further weakens Britian's soft power, which has already taken a massive hit cause brexit.
Scotland makes alot of money for England thats why they don't want Scotland to go and if Scotland goes it doesn't need to pay for any of the debt the uk is in with tory and Labour bad management of the uk.
If Scotland leaves the so called Union this de facto means the abolition of the United Kingdom. Since UK is supposedly gone so are the equivalent powers of the monarch who may also lose her status as the Queen (or king) of Canada, N. Zealand and Australia since these countries have as head of state the monarch of UK not the monarch of England.
@@emilyscloset2648 Trident is a submarine it can be moved, and Scots don’t actually make up decent % of the military anymore. It’s too do with water, as in fishing territories and drinking water. We hold the most valuable fishing territories and hold the large majority of fresh drinking water.
I'll shortly turn 66, and was a long time Labour voter in Scotland. I voted against independence in 2014. Since the Brexit referendum, I've voted SNP, as both Tories and Labour were disasters. The English Tories are like a millstone around our necks, Bojo the Clown is the second worst prime minister in my memory, after that witch Thatcher. So long as English voters are hellbent on imposing their Tories upon us, I see independence as the only way to get out from under that yoke.
Then enjoy being one of the poorest countries in Europe because we want nothing to do with traitors - No trade, hard borders everything British removed from Scotland which is the best of Scotland. Piss off then
@@Anglo-Brit I'll be delighted to piss off and leave the English stewing in their own juices. I've no sympathy at all for Tories, and even less for the dullards who vote for them..
@@Anglo-Brit " Its about loyalty to the soil of this Island and its people." Blood and Soil British Nationalism is what we are walking away from, for it has NO place in the Scotland most folk here desire. And those future predictions....lol, hurting much?
So these Tories think Alsace has a struggling economy being on the German Border. Reality is that Alsace has the third highest per capita GDP of any French region. After Paris the next four most productive French regions are border regions. Saarland is the only German border state small enough to compare; it's GDP per capita puts it on a par with Surrey and E&W Sussex region of England. So the Tory argument is : 'All border regions are poor; Therefore the Scottish borders are poor; Therefore we must preserve the Union.' Only one problem, it's bollox.
@@KelticStingray Yes, but much smaller. In a UK outside the EU, Scotland now has the right institutions to contribute to the UK. Scotland should be helping to run the UK, not leaving it.
@PatchesRips The issue before the Scots is not their human nature. Or whether geographers consider Scotland part of Europe. The issue is whether or not Scotland ought to be a separate nation, as it was 314 years ago. If Scotland became a separate nation, Scots would no longer be British as defined in the Act of Union 1707. Scots would continie to be humans. And geographers would still recognise Scotland as part of Europe. But that has nothing to do with the threatened unlawful referendum.
@@jamesmiller9363 englands control? , yet your CULT want to be controlled by the corrupt EU , just as they are trying to do with HUNGARY and force they to accept laws they dont want
If anyone should understand why the Scottish people should be given the right to "take back control" it is the Brexit government in Westminster. It is their logic entirely and they should not stand in the way of its application to Scotland.
@@eliasstenman3710 - Easy. That argument does not work because Britain was and is a unified state. Europe never was, nor is today. British is a nationality. European is not. Maybe in the future.
@@alanrobertson9790 well they can be given the choice whether to suck it up and stay in Scotland or just move down to England with their dictators it's quite simple really
The fact that Scotland needs to “seek permission”, from Westminister is in itself a reason for indyref2. Imagine asking the EU for permission to hold the Brexit ref.
Scottish independence is more likely than ever - partly thanks to the SNP being popular in their leadership and the Tories being unpopular in theirs. Sturgeon’s sensible, clear policies on lockdowns looks positively surgical compared to England’s open-shut-open chaos. But really, it’s about Westminster essentially being dominated by English issues and priorities, and other territories diverging massively in culture and opinion from them. It’s a generational, cultural problem. Even if a referendum is delayed, it’s basically inevitable given the way the winds are blowing.
Nope, recent polls suggest otherwise, with 47% against the movement People like the SNP sure, but literally due to their other unarguably good policies and a shared dislike for the tories (even then southern Scotland and Aberdeen still prefer the conservatives) Also the whole movement is balanced on rejoining the EU, which if previous applications tell us anything will take too long for a Scotland with a weaker economy and few trading partners
@@spoonkus5893 In a democracy the winner gets to implement their manifesto they were voted in on by the people, as Boris implemented Brexit with only 51% of the vote. The rest of your rant is so outdated, I won't be entertaining it.
I've always thought since the 2016 Brexit that Scotland is basically the abused wife with Stockholm syndrome from the village who is locked in the basement of the house by her husband England who brings up the "Union" between them and being together every time she has a doubt of wanting to leave or get a divorce then he makes her remember that she's just a village girl and would never survive, could never get a meaningful job and be a slave to someone instead so it's better to stay in that relationship. While the "Scots" who support the union are probably the ones whose ancestors helped the English with the Highland clearances and formation of Nova Scotia and the animal husbandry in Australia.
The very Pro Union Scots are people who don't have a lot of stake in anything important, so they put their whole personality into a certain football team, red White blue and orange colours and putting union jack's everywhere. Its a shame really
@@paulneedham9885 it acts as an English parliament having the interest for the English not the scottish that why we call it the English parliament England is foreign to Scotland scotland is foreign to England no one wants to be ruled by the dictator ruling class blowbag jhonson
Mr Mundell doesn't know that there are businesses created in the Borders with EU funds and by EU members. That shows how much he represents the Borders, a waste of a seat.
He is utterly useless, but at least the borders are relatively sparsely populated; the vast majority in Scotland live within the - strongly pro independence - Central Belt;)) 🇪🇺🏴🇪🇺
@@bettybiscuit9585 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Scottish_independence_referendum_results.svg/800px-Scottish_independence_referendum_results.svg.png Strange how only 3 constituencies voted yes in that strongly in favour of independence central belt. But aye the opinions of the people majority of voters in the borders are irrelevant. They must be forced into the fairytale of an independent Scotland Why not just declare independence for the 3 central belt constituencies that want it ? Yes it will harm everyone in the country but independence is a normal thing. Why not go back to the old kingdoms of Scotland: Strathclyde Dalriada Alba And so on clancarrutherssociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/iu-2-1.png It’s just a normal thing for people to strive for division is it not?
In ten years oil will be worthless no petrol or diesel cars to be made so the demand drops .a bill will soon be passed that all new house hold boilers to be electric not gas I can't see the future but it's defo not to good for oil and gas .and it's cheaper to buy from Saudi Arabia ship it half way round the world than get it from the north sea but good luck on independence
People who voted brexit because they wanted independence cannot stop Scots from having the same freedom to vote for independence from UK. It does not matter if we agree with them or not. It does not matter if it does not make sense to us. Scotland is a nation and the Union is voluntary. Denying them a vote is hypocrisy, pure and simple. And I’m English !
Indeed, I'm happy to hear neighbours down south have common sense 🙂 I've read the history of Scotland book, then at the moment of the act of union 1707 Scots didn't want an union cause they didn't want English settlers, but English didn't want it either cause they didn't want Scottish immigrants as well! This union has always been about how the elite of the British Isles maintain their power over the land. Nothing else.
Same here, from England, i voted remain, if England can drag the UK out of the EU, it has no right to tell Scotland to stay in the UK, the hypocrisy is ridiculous.
Agreed. The logic of Brexit has to be applied to Scotland. The truth is that the United Kingdom was an imperial project of England's. Empire is over, although clearly many Brexiteers believe it is still alive and well.
@@richardcory5024 BS. Brexit has nothing to do with independence. The Scottish referendum was held in 2014. England was in the EU. If Scotland had voted for independance. They would have been out of the EU regardless. So the SNP are willing to lie and ruin Scotland. Let them get on with it.
@@lasttango7522 so what about the whole argument about unless we vote no we'll lose our place in the EU it happened anyway so brexit has definitely put the UK on a timer unless things change scotland and Northern Ireland are gone.
@@lasttango7522 This is an assumtion. Scotland had no reason toleave the Union as the UK was part on the EU. Until some UKIP fascists a year later ruined all this with an unconstitutional referendum.
Scotland must be sorely tempted to create its own national Courts since it already has its own legal system. Hear all cases before declared sovereign Scottish courts of law. Leave British appointed Magistrates to sit in silence in empty, pointless courtrooms. England can withstand most things, just not ridicule.
@Arthur G. Dream on... The UK just lost £2,300,000,000,000 (£2.3 Trillion) LAST MONTH because we don't have a financial services deal with the EU ... Nevermind how much we lost in trade, fish or livestock... The UK will either need to print more money or declare bankruptcy ... Scotland needs to RUN LIKE HELL!!!!
There not. They did vote. Wasted millions of pounds of public money doing it too. The majority of the people who voted are still the same people alive. They had the vote. They chose already.
@@lhomha8245 - Me too, I think it will happen buy not for the best of reasons. It will be the populist Farage style arguments that will push them over the edge. Not the reasons people should be voting for.
Gabe Gotti ... Here are a few more reasons:- England is overpopulated with relatively little agriculture or resources to support itself. Scotland is two thirds the size of England with one tenth the population of England. Subsequently Scotland produces excesses in agriculture which are exported to England. England produces only 70% of its electricity and is dependent on Scotland and France which both produce more electricity than they consume. Scotland produces an excess of wind power and when the tidal power generators are complete we will have a much greater excess of electricity generating capacity. Most of the forestry commission land is in Scotland, so England depends on our timber production. The vast majority of fishing grounds belong to Scotland. All of the oil fields and more than 90% of the gas fields lie in Scotland's sectors of the Continental Shelf. This is already delineated through various Geneva Conventions and The Continental Shelf Agreement signed and sealed by successive British Governments. The British have even claimed Rockall as part of Inverness shire on our behalf. The whisky revenues have been a massive source of income for centuries to the British exchequer. With Scotland's resources, Scotland will do very well without England's drain on its economy.
We form the international voices. The East Asia, South East Asia, South Asia are concerned with the ongoing freedom suppression in Europe, especially UK.
Wouldn't it be right we all looking after each others.... Please don't push us aside... 🙄😞 we all alike UK was so concerned about HK, India Caste and South East Asia.... Right 😂
@@MrAbklee i;m glad to see the independence cause is reaching around the world. thats the last thing the tories and WM want because internationa recognition is important for scottish independence and the more otehrs round the world understand this the better chance of recognition scotland has when it votes for indy
Common sense would suggest that the British Government should be asking themselves why 65 countries have removed themselves from the British Empire, their inability to do that really emphasises why Scotland should become the 66th!
As a proud English man I would love to see an independent Scotland, independent Wales and Ireland. Although I have respect for these countries, I hate having a British identity! I had to move to France to gain my English nationaliy. FREE ENGLAND, FREE SCOTLAND, FREE WALES, and REUNITE Ireland.
@@brrob8108 but France is 200 years backward on this point... the constitutive nations aren't even recognized... they are all worse than cornwalls there ;-)
A Scottish friend of mine told me they don't like the British. I asked why. The British call the Scots sheep herders........ hopefully it will be a free scotland ....get rid of the colonizers.. scotland belongs to the scottish......long live freedom
@@vizibilibende5194 Idiot , Scotland 🏴 is one of 4 countries that make up Great Britain 🇬🇧 hence the blue in the flag , now we had a vote 2014 and the Scots voted to remain part of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧, if they vote to leave in any future referendum then so be it … that’s democracy , they will probably get another chance after the pandemic 😷 is over .
I personally like the shared identity we share as a nation, under one flag - the union flag. However, the fact of the matter is that we as a nation have little control over our own affairs and all the decisions we would like to make - which are specifically tailored with Scotland in mind - are routinely taken from us by England. We didn’t want to leave the EU, doesn’t matter, England did. We didn’t want Borris Johnson, doesn’t matter, England did. Two examples which are droplets in a pool of examples where the English overreach into our affairs. Yes we have devolved powers, but it’s not enough. I would like for the United Kingdom to remain united, but the only way I can see this happening is if Westminster hand over full power to us and we stay together merely as a symbolic and cultural state. So many of those opposed to Scottish independence are so vehemently anti-Scottish that it’s a wonder they even want us in the first place. They view us as the conjoined twin in a womb of union, desperately wanting to devour us and take the spotlight. Well in that case, let us leave if we are such a burden - or, hand over control to us, and we can retain the considerable friendship that still exists between our nations as well as a national identity.
The issue I see with the UK as an outsider, is that it's kinda sorta but not really like a federal state, yet there's no such thing as a federal only government. Westminster is both the government of England and the government of the whole kingdom and when push comes to shove, it ends up looking at England for decisions because it's where most of its MPs come from. Democratically it's hard to argue that they shouldn't do that either, exactly because of their odd position.
The UNION FLAG Is about colonies and conquest, enabling helping yourselves to another countries resources! The dominant St Georges Cross on top is the real answer!!
The European Union will not accept Scotland first because there are many countries that will refuse to do so, especially Spain, which will use its veto in order to prevent Scotland from joining the European Union so that Catalonia does not secede from Spain and rejoin the European Union. Secondly, the EU will not be approved. Accession as long as the referendum is illegal means that the UK government did not agree to it. If the solution is for Scotland to remain in the United Kingdom, the European Union is not a paradise. If it were, Switzerland would have joined the European Union
@@nicolastubborn9033 Entitled Boris is a failed two bit journalist that received his degree courtesy of his parents bribes. Sturgeon is from a working class background and has a first class legal degree. Night and day.
Scotland govern Scotland, they make their own decisions, their legal system and Education system are diffrent to the rest of the UK, and elected Scottish MPs sit in the UK Parliament were as no English MPs sit in the Scottish parliament.
@@alisonsmith4801 why are the English so against Scotlands Independence? An Independent Scotland would gain greater Autonomy, in addition to having the opportunity to rejoin the EU again. I believe leaving the EU was a big mistake by the UK, with most Scott's preferring to stay in the EU clearly indicating both England and Scotland have different wants and needs which is leading to the inevitable split.
@@Themanyfacesofego The UK is no nation. The parts of the Union have their own government, own flag and play as an independent country in sports. Tell me what's the nation then and where is the constitution?
Terrified?. Possibly. However as ever it is an economic reason. Scotland has some great assets and The Govt (tories) do not want us to leave because they wont have access to the economic assets in Scotland. Simple
Boris was only ever popular in England, which in of itself speaks volumes for the English. No one else likes him. The rest of Europe is still in disbelief at the fact that he’s actually been elected PM.
@@heucatiaNot just Europe, the world looks on Britian as they did with Trump USA. The image they put out has been crashed and burnt. The see English people who vote Tory, like Trump supporters.
@@grahamshepherd9305 Stop lying to people Nicola Sturgeon (SNP): 72% Keir Starmer (Lab): 44% Willie Rennie (LDem): 29% Douglas Ross (Con): 22% Boris Johnson (Con): 19% Richard Leonard (Lab): 18% via @ipsoMori Poll
@OpiniumResearch Opinium Research poll for - The Observer: Nicola Sturgeon best performing leader in UK 57% (+24%) people in Scotland approve 97% SNP voters approve 61% Lab, 52% Lib & 30% Tory voters approve 63% of Scots think Boris Johnson should resign
@@erikk276 Westminster is seeking to disrupt our devolved government and dictate to Scotland, especially with Johnson’s ‘Internal Markets Bill.’ In my view we need independence for Scotland sooner rather than later, so that the Tories in Westminster cannot sell off our extensive natural resources and Scottish NHS.
@@Dunsapie Yea, some think Aberdeen is 30 mins away for Edinburgh. We find alot of people running around Scotland are pretty clueless about the actual country.
Its all about fear of the backbone of the British state being broken. The media bosses depend on it staying unbroken, people fear change, they feed on each other but the future of UK with no change from the incumbent regime is hellish from any angle. Those who write different just do it for the pay they get, paid to keep the status quo under any circumstance.
what will happen is the tadgers in WM will suffer from little man syndrome and will have to finally witness the end of the empire. WM clings to the coat tails of the US trying to prove it still has relevance and a major player in the world when it isn't. its a has been empire well past its sell by date which has gone off and rotten to the core
Corrupt elites will fight hard to stop the dismantling of the looting machines from which they draw their vast wealth States that get all their revenues from selling their oil, gas and minerals could easily turn into kleptocracies where the majority stay poor. Westminster doesn't want Scotland, just its resources.
I don't hear the Province of Newfoundland wanting to secede from Canada or Tasmania wanting to secede from Australia. Or Arizona wanting to secede from the US. Or ...etc, etc. The Scots are simply deluded by a woman who would be Queen.
Scotland has enough people, resources and political will to make ourselves better for all and not waste more time money and political will on a UK which keeps making mistakes and abusing it's own role in the union
@@andyc7917 Absolutely, good luck to any country that decides it's own future via a democratic referendum. I believe Scotland had the democratic opportunity to leave the Union but chose no to. However, comparing Scotland's demographics to that of Portugal, is a little fanciful thinking it's the answer to Scotland's social problems.
@@jasonkingshott2971 i used portugal as an example of an independently governed country which can choose its own policies regarding illegal drugs. Not fanciful in the slightest. I mean scotland could carry on with the never ending pointless war on drugs with the rest of UK if it ever leaves, then just keep losing the 'war on drugs' for many more decades to come. Scotlands illegal drug problem needs sorting out, what would your solution be? EDIT: if there were to be a hard border it could possibly benefit the problems of illegal drugs in scotland as i assume they probably come through england. But then again there are always ways to smuggle things into any country no matter what. These are only assumptions as to where the illegal drug trade comes into scotland they could come from air or sea also but my guess is that the majority come through england
Why would they want this ?...none of my relatives wanted independence ...my father didn't care if he was called British Scottish or English ...it's only the brainless wee krankies who harp on about it ...
Do we want to recover our old Scotland or do we want to recover a new, better Scotland. Independence and economic recovery aren't two questions but are a mixture that could lead to a strong republic of Scotland. Independence is the thing we need to jump start a new economy.
maybe , but wee krankie ,bawbag blackford and the SNP cult aint the people to take scotland forward , division and hatred would be what its all about , they couldnt run a bath
No wonder the views have changed. One of the most important messages during the last referendum was that the only way to stay in the EU was to stay in the UK. That aged well, didn't it? Now that Scotland realizes how devastating Brexit is for Scotland - as well as for the rest of the UK - rejoining the EU as an independent country is a great way to get out of this mess.
@@sebdcord Devastating for little England, yes. Don't take my word for it, listen to people like Mark Blyth e.g. here on TH-cam in "An economic case for Scottish independence".
Go look up The Good Friday agreement. Can't happen unless the Republic of Ireland also votes for it. Both Ireland and North Ireland must vote the same for Irish Reunification. Heard much about that happening? No me neither.
@@bradavon Polling shows that the people of the Republic of Ireland are overwhelmingly in favour of reuinification. Wouldn't take much to set up their own referendum, methinks.
It’s not just Scotland but also Wales and Northern Ireland that are looking to leave the UK currently. We are 4 separate countries and we are not in an equal Union. Independence is normal and there are many nations that show countries the size of Scotland or even Wales could easily survive and possible flourish on their own.
Your probably talking to people who have never left the country, can't see how other EU countries work just fine, their near neighbour doing just fine. Some are just frogs sitting as the water as it starts to boil and too stupid to jump out of the water.
I like nationalism but nationalism within one island and a 90 km border separating two countries with a population lower than that of fricking Los Angeles is just ridiculous
@@inigobantok1579 What is ridiculous is how it’s four different ethnic groups, four different but related cultures and four different languages and how they still haven’t killed each other:
In 1707 Scotland gave up its monarchy to form a union under the Kingdom of Great Britain. Prior to this it was the Kingdom of Scotland and Kingdom of England. In 2014 Scotland voted to remain in The UK. Not once but twice The Scots have chosen to be in The UK. We don't know what the Scots think now because the only people we're hearing from never accepted either decision by The Scottish people anyway. Twice Scotland has chosen to remain. Neither were through conflict, war but a political decision.
"He's a lovely man" *Seconds later - accuses him of being nothing more than a career politician not at all dedicated to his party's cause. This is how snakes talk. Even if it's the pot calling the kettle black, just don't take anything these people say without a pinch of salt. They are putrid.
It’s interesting to me when he was talking to the unionist How England has not treated Scotland well. The English/Westminster doesn’t care about Scotland, Ireland or Wales it’s apparent in their policies
Just moved to Scotland from England. Completely on the fence. I have so, so many questions that nobody objective appears to have come close to answering - fundamental things like border controls and passports, the future of the economy , generation of tax revenues, plans for public services.
@@casperwallace9685 that's not exactly true is it ? Are people just deliberately forgetting that the majority of Scotland voted to stay as part of the union??
Any come backs mate ? 1707 when the union was formed, was it forced or did the Scottish government at that time bankrupt the entire country leaving us with very little option? Asking for a mate.
I voted No in 2014, and it had nothing to do with Cameron promising we would stay in the EU. The SNP are not offering real independence. They want to be a member of the EU.
Scotland is a proper country not like a corporation in London running England is. Scotland has a caring government wanting the best for its people. England is a small insulated group of super rich feeding off the mass of the British poor. Scotland has wealth when free that now it is getting the crumbs left over from the feeding frenzy in Westminster. Scotland is a European nation held hostage by a union that was forced on it. Alba is a loved sister nation to Eire. Time to be a nation again!
one of the biggest arguments for the Scots voted in favor of staying in the uk in 2014 was the affiliation ofif Boris denies a referendum, people will start to realize that this marriage is not so voluntary.
I think your old pal summed Unionists up quite nicely "...and for goodness sake - don't give the Scottish parliament any more powers!" It's exactly this sort of contempt for the will of the Scottish people that is driving support for Independence up and up and up. It's 2021, the 'know your place' argument quite simply won't wash any more.
DESPOT BORIS JOHNSON and his DICTATORSHIP, DESTROY SCOTLAND! RENDER IT POWERLESS TO DEFEND ITSELF! PLUNDER ALL RESOURCES, ABUSE TAXATION, PERSONAL ENRICHMENT FOR LONDON PARTIES, NO UNDERSTANDING OF CULTURE, NO RESPECT, DIRTY MONEY! BRIBERY!! SECRECY!
Why did we join ??? Who did it suit??? Why are we out of E.U. who did it suit?? Havens saved who does it suit?? Paying money direct to COUNCILS and by passing parliament, a backward step into the dark ages of mis-used funding, the Scottish Government owed BILLIONS for PFI school building, not forgetting junkets to see if it snows in Russia(for example) Poor quality food, empty shelves is Westminster,s idea of looking after people!"!
Foukes was the funniest. SNP are making huge changes and managing so much better in Scotland Q) Is that not a good thing? But they are doing it on purpose. (0) (0)
Please ask the English if they would like Scotland to remain in the Union. I suspect the majority would be OK with Scotland becoming independent and "not having to pay for them". It would be an interesting referendum!
Polls have been done several times including recently. England has always been a significant majority for wanting Scotland to stay, however, they have been pro another independence vote, so there's that.
I'm not Scottish, and I believe in most cases separatists are wrong. Yet, here the only real solution is Scottish independence. It was the only choice for all the other nations the British used and abused.
@@darthlazurus4382 Sure! Scottish independence will come, be it in a few or ten 10 years. As well as Irish reunification. The the UK will lose 48% of its land area and even more in waters. Perfect!
Economy? if Scotland will be part of the EU, at this moment is a gigantic Rebuild fund after the pandemic. Hundreds of billions Euro to share in EU. Scotland never gets so big funds from the UK I guess.
All or most funds flow to England, from 92% OIL! 60% Gas, Whisky the lot! All that travels through England claimed as ENGLISH EXPORT. We get to pay HS.2 .Trident, London Sewerage, The Houses of Parliament Repairs ,and a lot more London Vanity Projects
Interestingly, one of the main arguments that swayed old unionists in the early stages of ref. 1 campaign was the fact that this isn't true. At least, in practice, Scotland's vote almost never sways it. Ironically, it was Scotland that returned a surprisingly significant Tory vote in 2019. If England wants tory, it gets tory. If it wants Labour, it gets Labour. More or less. With PR this would be an unquestionably accurate statement. Given the gerrymandering that goes on, Tories have 'luck' or 'support' on their side. But yeah, the point is we almost never made a difference. Most of Britain was tory for decades. The red walls popped up, if I remember, some time around mid last century. When the English Red walls fall, ours means nothing. There are like 5.5 million people in Scotland. 🤷♀️
But yet if that was the case why keep us around we moan because a lot of Scottish people don't like Westminster and how they handle anything look at brexit and covid they keep showing us they don't care about ordinary people.
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I remember government stated Scotland should vote No in order to remain in the EU. lol
If Scotland had voted yes they would have been out of the EU and it did not bother the SNP then.
@@kethughes8266 that is besides the point. A key promise was that Scotland by being part of UK would be part of the largest free market area in the world, this was debated publicly
who exactly misses being in the corrupt EU . we have left and they are now showing how corrupt they really are
@@nicolastubborn9033 Dwarfed by the corruption at the heart of Westminster!
@@Gerzzo plenty corruption going on in the SNP these days. Court cases aside, 6 members have resigned ( one of them being the finance minister) because they were not being given the information required to do their job.
£600,000 of SNP supporters money cannot be accounted for, is any wonder case numbers are rising in Scotland, because the Track and Protect system is failing to contact those who tested positive in the 24 to 48 hour timescale. Would it be because the system is understaffed after the Scottish Government gave £10 million to the company running Track and Protect, only for the company to put staff on furlough ? Sio where has a percentage of that £10 million gone ? Corruption in the UK gov ? Pot kettle- kettle pot seems appropriate.
Since 1939 sixty-two countries have got independence from Westminster and not one wanted to go back.
Yep, so true, who wants to be opposed. Cheers from down under
Hong Kong would like the british back.
@@susannamarker2582 that is understandable given the new order China is trying to establish 🤡. However HK is they only exception.
@@camelemoji2918 Scotland voted to stay in the UK in 2014. In 1997, Australia voted to stay with Queen Elizabeth.
@@susannamarker2582 Well isnt it possible that an Independent Scotland can continue with the Queen (or king if she’ll be alive to that day) as the head of state as Australia, Canada ect. also did ;))?
The UK isn't just England but it appears to be like that in many aspects, if I was Scottish or Northern Irish I would be so pissed.
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On lemonade ?
About what ?
Most of Scotland is pissed on drink, not because we are in the UK... Most people don't care about indy up here, I hardly hear about it. I'm getting on with my life perfectly fine as it is, SNP
Ye canny speak right ...
UK: We're stronger together. Don't leave, Scotland.
* *UK Leaves the EU* *
Without Scotland, there will be no UK. The EU will be stronger with Scotland aboard.
So, what's the problem ?
@@finnchristiansen6625 It's not your fight.
@@susannamarker2582 Hardly a fight, madam. A vote is all it takes.
And it's quite relevant for Scots to know what the opinion of a potential Scottish independence means in Europe - especially since the indyref was predicated on the UK remaining in the EU.
A Scottish friend of mine told me they don't like the British. I asked why. The British call the Scots sheep herders........
hopefully it will be a free scotland ....get rid of the colonizers..
scotland belongs to the scottish......long live freedom
is gove deluded enough to think scots actually like Boris? wtf
They would if he wore a kilt !
Why would it matter if the Scots or the English like Boris? He is prime minister because he has shown he will stand up for the UK, not because we like him.
English people don't like him much either.
At least not in the North East.
@@aligedbrick Sadly still too many in England vote Tory.......weird
And Gove is Scottish
The world stands for independent Scotland and a united Ireland.
It's what the people want ..the scots want to be part of UK and so do the northern Irish ...what the world wants is irrelevant yr stupid opinion has been noted ....
Lets have another vote then !!! Scotland isn't just Glasgow .... honestly
Go Scotland, gain your independence, cheers from 🇦🇺
@@villakaty2206 Ignorance is bliss eh !!
@@villakaty2206 nice to see the union jack in yr flag lol !!
Why is England scared of it's independence? Scotland according to Westminster figure's costs England more than the EU did. You'd think England would want to vote on it's independence.
Militaraly it's questionable. It puts trident in trouble and also breaks the long standing relationship of Scots serving in the armed forces.
It also further weakens Britian's soft power, which has already taken a massive hit cause brexit.
Scotland makes alot of money for England thats why they don't want Scotland to go and if Scotland goes it doesn't need to pay for any of the debt the uk is in with tory and Labour bad management of the uk.
@@DoubleAAce there will be no problem when Scotland is independent .
If Scotland leaves the so called Union this de facto means the abolition of the United Kingdom. Since UK is supposedly gone so are the equivalent powers of the monarch who may also lose her status as the Queen (or king) of Canada, N. Zealand and Australia since these countries have as head of state the monarch of UK not the monarch of England.
@@emilyscloset2648 Trident is a submarine it can be moved, and Scots don’t actually make up decent % of the military anymore.
It’s too do with water, as in fishing territories and drinking water. We hold the most valuable fishing territories and hold the large majority of fresh drinking water.
I'll shortly turn 66, and was a long time Labour voter in Scotland. I voted against independence in 2014. Since the Brexit referendum, I've voted SNP, as both Tories and Labour were disasters. The English Tories are like a millstone around our necks, Bojo the Clown is the second worst prime minister in my memory, after that witch Thatcher. So long as English voters are hellbent on imposing their Tories upon us, I see independence as the only way to get out from under that yoke.
Then enjoy being one of the poorest countries in Europe because we want nothing to do with traitors - No trade, hard borders everything British removed from Scotland which is the best of Scotland. Piss off then
@@Anglo-Brit I'll be delighted to piss off and leave the English stewing in their own juices. I've no sympathy at all for Tories, and even less for the dullards who vote for them..
@@Leszek.Rzepecki This is beyond parties.. Its about loyalty to the soil of this Island and its people.
@@Anglo-Brit " Its about loyalty to the soil of this Island and its people." Blood and Soil British Nationalism is what we are walking away from, for it has NO place in the Scotland most folk here desire. And those future predictions....lol, hurting much?
Then piss off. Scotland is kept above water financially by the UK
I will always support both Scottish independence and Scottish nationalism.
And so will your friends in the IRA.
@@philcooper279 okay? epic!!!
@@philcooper279 really???...
@@philcooper279 Absolutely nothing to do with it.
Hear Hear
I find it funny that if they do finally let us get independence, we will have independence day like America
And Scotland will be bankrupt.....thankfully it won't happen ....too few thick wee jeemies there ....
@@delcamelot Like America? The population of Scotland is half that of Los Angeles County. Just a pissant corner of the UK.
@@delcamelot Wrong, your ignorance and abuse is not surprising.
@@fwcolb What would England be without the Scots thinking for them ......George Bernard Shaw.
Now we see, now the world see's.
@@casperwallace9685 Not a problem. Thinking Scots will move to England soon after independence.
Kind of missed the bit about EU referendum which weighed into the Indy Ref
So these Tories think Alsace has a struggling economy being on the German Border. Reality is that Alsace has the third highest per capita GDP of any French region. After Paris the next four most productive French regions are border regions.
Saarland is the only German border state small enough to compare; it's GDP per capita puts it on a par with Surrey and E&W Sussex region of England.
So the Tory argument is :
'All border regions are poor;
Therefore the Scottish borders are poor;
Therefore we must preserve the Union.'
Only one problem, it's bollox.
Tory speaking bullochs?
Waaaaaat?!?!
The EU wants Alsace and sw Germany to join together. Mad superstate antics. No thanks.
@@susannamarker2582 the UK by definition is a superstate?
@@KelticStingray Yes, but much smaller. In a UK outside the EU, Scotland now has the right institutions to contribute to the UK. Scotland should be helping to run the UK, not leaving it.
@@susannamarker2582 blatant hypocrisy.
I'm certain the only Union most Scottish people care about is the European Union.
In varietate concordia.
Yr opinion had been noted
It's not your fight.
In variety, harmony. Spot on. I am not Scottish, Irish or Welsh or English. I am British.
@PatchesRips The issue before the Scots is not their human nature. Or whether geographers consider Scotland part of Europe. The issue is whether or not Scotland ought to be a separate nation, as it was 314 years ago. If Scotland became a separate nation, Scots would no longer be British as defined in the Act of Union 1707. Scots would continie to be humans. And geographers would still recognise Scotland as part of Europe. But that has nothing to do with the threatened unlawful referendum.
62% vote proved that......The UK union is over.
Scotland should take back control
i agree get rid of wee krankie
@@nicolastubborn9033 get rid ae Englands control is a good start.
@@jamesmiller9363 englands control? , yet your CULT want to be controlled by the corrupt EU , just as they are trying to do with HUNGARY and force they to accept laws they dont want
@@nicolastubborn9033 bruh
@@nicolastubborn9033 laws like what? basic human rights? yea hungary doesnt want them bcs china said so and hungary does as china commands.
If anyone should understand why the Scottish people should be given the right to "take back control" it is the Brexit government in Westminster. It is their logic entirely and they should not stand in the way of its application to Scotland.
What about the rights of people with a British identity which has existed for the last 300 years?
@@alanrobertson9790 What about those with a European identity?
@@eliasstenman3710 - Easy. That argument does not work because Britain was and is a unified state. Europe never was, nor is today. British is a nationality. European is not. Maybe in the future.
@@alanrobertson9790 well they can be given the choice whether to suck it up and stay in Scotland or just move down to England with their dictators it's quite simple really
@@jamesmiller9363 Well said James Saor Alba 🏴 🇪🇺
I am French I support the independence of Scotland, and that it stay with Europe. Europe is strong.
N'importe quoi....et les basques ..indépendance pour eux aussi .?...c'est pas tes oignons.....te mêle pas !!
Normandy should be part of England.
Europe is strong 😅😅 tu parles !!
I support Arab boycott of France as well!!!
@@delcamelot There is no true comparison to be drawn between the Basque region and the ancient _country_ of Scotland!
Ta gueule.
The fact that Scotland needs to “seek permission”, from Westminister is in itself a reason for indyref2. Imagine asking the EU for permission to hold the Brexit ref.
But Scotland would at least not take 5 years to leave, other than the UK
Remind everyone of the 2014 Scottish independence referendum.
Scottish independence is more likely than ever - partly thanks to the SNP being popular in their leadership and the Tories being unpopular in theirs. Sturgeon’s sensible, clear policies on lockdowns looks positively surgical compared to England’s open-shut-open chaos.
But really, it’s about Westminster essentially being dominated by English issues and priorities, and other territories diverging massively in culture and opinion from them. It’s a generational, cultural problem. Even if a referendum is delayed, it’s basically inevitable given the way the winds are blowing.
What would England be without the Scots thinking for them ..…
.George Bernard Shaw.
Now we see it in real time.
No. Not inevitable. Westminster could just repeal the Scotland Act.
@@fwcolb Then it goes to court and Scotland removes its signature off the Act of Union 1707.
Nope, recent polls suggest otherwise, with 47% against the movement
People like the SNP sure, but literally due to their other unarguably good policies and a shared dislike for the tories (even then southern Scotland and Aberdeen still prefer the conservatives)
Also the whole movement is balanced on rejoining the EU, which if previous applications tell us anything will take too long for a Scotland with a weaker economy and few trading partners
@@spoonkus5893 In a democracy the winner gets to implement their manifesto they were voted in on by the people, as Boris implemented Brexit with only 51% of the vote.
The rest of your rant is so outdated, I won't be entertaining it.
Why is England so afraid of a new referendum?
Because they know they will lose .
The English voted in that compulsive liar , that will seal the deal for Scottish independence .
There is no deal for Scottish independence. No more than there is a deal for repealing the Scotland Act. But of the two, I would support the second.
I've always thought since the 2016 Brexit that Scotland is basically the abused wife with Stockholm syndrome from the village who is locked in the basement of the house by her husband England who brings up the "Union" between them and being together every time she has a doubt of wanting to leave or get a divorce then he makes her remember that she's just a village girl and would never survive, could never get a meaningful job and be a slave to someone instead so it's better to stay in that relationship. While the "Scots" who support the union are probably the ones whose ancestors helped the English with the Highland clearances and formation of Nova Scotia and the animal husbandry in Australia.
What a pile of crap
Perfectly put.
@@kethughes8266 yup - the union is just that.
The very Pro Union Scots are people who don't have a lot of stake in anything important, so they put their whole personality into a certain football team, red White blue and orange colours and putting union jack's everywhere. Its a shame really
Only someone from the 3rd world could make such a ridiculous observation.
There is no union, There hasn't been in a long time, Just English parliment holding on to Scotland. Scotland will stand on its own feet
there is no English parliament, There is a scottish one and a UK one but NO English parliament
@@paulneedham9885 it acts as an English parliament having the interest for the English not the scottish that why we call it the English parliament England is foreign to Scotland scotland is foreign to England no one wants to be ruled by the dictator ruling class blowbag jhonson
@@paulneedham9885 it's an English parliament disguised as a "British" one. Wake up darling.
Mr Mundell doesn't know that there are businesses created in the Borders with EU funds and by EU members. That shows how much he represents the Borders, a waste of a seat.
He is utterly useless, but at least the borders are relatively sparsely populated; the vast majority in Scotland live within the - strongly pro independence - Central Belt;)) 🇪🇺🏴🇪🇺
@@bettybiscuit9585 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Scottish_independence_referendum_results.svg/800px-Scottish_independence_referendum_results.svg.png
Strange how only 3 constituencies voted yes in that strongly in favour of independence central belt.
But aye the opinions of the people majority of voters in the borders are irrelevant.
They must be forced into the fairytale of an independent Scotland
Why not just declare independence for the 3 central belt constituencies that want it ?
Yes it will harm everyone in the country but independence is a normal thing.
Why not go back to the old kingdoms of Scotland:
Strathclyde
Dalriada
Alba
And so on
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It’s just a normal thing for people to strive for division is it not?
The Mundells are LONDON TORIES, Big money goes a long way!!
He is a weasel of a man, never to be trusted
@@robertgalloway3771 Bought and sold for English Gold. Burns was right all along.
Dear God please let the Uk end and my country of Scotland can finally be free from England and it's oil/gas stealing hands...
check out the most recent polls, support for indy is at its lowest point in over 2 years ahahahahahahahahahahaha
They haven't stolen anything. The UK was, is, and still will be a thing. The Oscar goes to....someone else.
In ten years oil will be worthless no petrol or diesel cars to be made so the demand drops .a bill will soon be passed that all new house hold boilers to be electric not gas I can't see the future but it's defo not to good for oil and gas .and it's cheaper to buy from Saudi Arabia ship it half way round the world than get it from the north sea but good luck on independence
@@dontalkt2meboutheros *was
@@dazza2350 *Was in the past, still is and still will be. 🙄
People who voted brexit because they wanted independence cannot stop Scots from having the same freedom to vote for independence from UK. It does not matter if we agree with them or not. It does not matter if it does not make sense to us. Scotland is a nation and the Union is voluntary. Denying them a vote is hypocrisy, pure and simple. And I’m English !
Indeed, I'm happy to hear neighbours down south have common sense 🙂
I've read the history of Scotland book, then at the moment of the act of union 1707 Scots didn't want an union cause they didn't want English settlers, but English didn't want it either cause they didn't want Scottish immigrants as well!
This union has always been about how the elite of the British Isles maintain their power over the land. Nothing else.
Same I am also english. I belive Scotland should have a 2nd referendum.
Same here, from England, i voted remain, if England can drag the UK out of the EU, it has no right to tell Scotland to stay in the UK, the hypocrisy is ridiculous.
Brexit made the breakup of the Union inevitable.
Agreed. The logic of Brexit has to be applied to Scotland. The truth is that the United Kingdom was an imperial project of England's. Empire is over, although clearly many Brexiteers believe it is still alive and well.
@@richardcory5024 BS. Brexit has nothing to do with independence. The Scottish referendum was held in 2014. England was in the EU. If Scotland had voted for independance. They would have been out of the EU regardless.
So the SNP are willing to lie and ruin Scotland. Let them get on with it.
@@lasttango7522 so what about the whole argument about unless we vote no we'll lose our place in the EU it happened anyway so brexit has definitely put the UK on a timer unless things change scotland and Northern Ireland are gone.
@@lasttango7522 This is an assumtion. Scotland had no reason toleave the Union as the UK was part on the EU. Until some UKIP fascists a year later ruined all this with an unconstitutional referendum.
Cope, we will vote against independence like we did last time.
Scotland doesn't need permission from Westminster. England doesn't get a say in what the people of scotland want.
Uh it does?
@@duckbio6608 uh it doesn't. That's what declaration of arbroath
@@jamesmiller9363 ok
@@duckbio6608 indeed.
Scotland must be sorely tempted to create its own national Courts since it already has its own legal system. Hear all cases before declared sovereign Scottish courts of law.
Leave British appointed Magistrates to sit in silence in empty, pointless courtrooms.
England can withstand most things, just not ridicule.
Scotland needs to leave the "SINKING SHIP" ... ASAP!!!!!!! ... #brexit
@Arthur G. Dream on... The UK just lost £2,300,000,000,000 (£2.3 Trillion) LAST MONTH because we don't have a financial services deal with the EU ... Nevermind how much we lost in trade, fish or livestock... The UK will either need to print more money or declare bankruptcy ... Scotland needs to RUN LIKE HELL!!!!
@@quax4560 where did u get this £2.3 trillion statistic from because the whole of the uks gdp is £2.8 trillion.
Correct
Free Scotland 🏴🏴🏴🏴
I don’t understand why they’re so scared to let Scotland vote
There not. They did vote. Wasted millions of pounds of public money doing it too. The majority of the people who voted are still the same people alive. They had the vote. They chose already.
@@matthewyabsley before the UK broke their promise...
@@matthewyabsley am 100% sure that this time they would vote to leave. England left EU against their wish
@@lhomha8245 - Me too, I think it will happen buy not for the best of reasons. It will be the populist Farage style arguments that will push them over the edge. Not the reasons people should be voting for.
Gabe Gotti ... Here are a few more reasons:-
England is overpopulated with relatively little agriculture or resources to support itself.
Scotland is two thirds the size of England with one tenth the population of England. Subsequently Scotland produces excesses in agriculture which are exported to England.
England produces only 70% of its electricity and is dependent on Scotland and France which both produce more electricity than they consume. Scotland produces an excess of wind power and when the tidal power generators are complete we will have a much greater excess of electricity generating capacity.
Most of the forestry commission land is in Scotland, so England depends on our timber production.
The vast majority of fishing grounds belong to Scotland.
All of the oil fields and more than 90% of the gas fields lie in Scotland's sectors of the Continental Shelf. This is already delineated through various Geneva Conventions and The Continental Shelf Agreement signed and sealed by successive British Governments. The British have even claimed Rockall as part of Inverness shire on our behalf.
The whisky revenues have been a massive source of income for centuries to the British exchequer.
With Scotland's resources, Scotland will do very well without England's drain on its economy.
Please respect the international voices and give freedom and independence to Scotland
Mind ur own business. It’s not your country.
We form the international voices. The East Asia, South East Asia, South Asia are concerned with the ongoing freedom suppression in Europe, especially UK.
Wouldn't it be right we all looking after each others.... Please don't push us aside... 🙄😞 we all alike UK was so concerned about HK, India Caste and South East Asia.... Right 😂
@@Emmawdrw23 Man kunne fristes til at tro, at det heller ikke er dit...
@@MrAbklee i;m glad to see the independence cause is reaching around the world. thats the last thing the tories and WM want because internationa recognition is important for scottish independence and the more otehrs round the world understand this the better chance of recognition scotland has when it votes for indy
Common sense would suggest that the British Government should be asking themselves why 65 countries have removed themselves from the British Empire, their inability to do that really emphasises why Scotland should become the 66th!
Scotland isn’t part of the British empire though is it?
Scotland deserve independence
As a proud English man I would love to see an independent Scotland, independent Wales and Ireland. Although I have respect for these countries, I hate having a British identity! I had to move to France to gain my English nationaliy. FREE ENGLAND, FREE SCOTLAND, FREE WALES, and REUNITE Ireland.
I move to France for the same reason!
@@brrob8108 but France is 200 years backward on this point... the constitutive nations aren't even recognized... they are all worse than cornwalls there ;-)
@@glegof999 Both France and Britain have to act soon before they both become Islamic States
Yes
Wales?
C’mon, Scots! Take back control of your destiny, and declare independence!!!! 🏴❤️🏴💪
The land of the movie, Brave Heart.
The telegraph used to be a decent paper . Now it's just the Sun for rich people.
It has been called The Torygraph for as long as I can remember, i.e. the last half century.
Agree used to be
Hahaha. Excellent, well put.
Totally agree, and it is the wealthy who deperately want to hold on to the union and minimise any possibility of them losing their pennies.
All media is controlled by the rich,they feed us bullshite and we swallow it.
FREE SCOTLAND 🏴
Freedom for Scotland
I say we fight tooth and nail to keep Boris and his motley crew in power. Scotland loves him. the guy is a god send for our independence movement.
Let the clown walk through the Center of Glasgow on a busy Saturday
Thankfully !! Scotland 🏴 isn’t only Glasgow .
A Scottish friend of mine told me they don't like the British. I asked why. The British call the Scots sheep herders........
hopefully it will be a free scotland ....get rid of the colonizers..
scotland belongs to the scottish......long live freedom
@@vizibilibende5194 Idiot , Scotland 🏴 is one of 4 countries that make up Great Britain 🇬🇧 hence the blue in the flag , now we had a vote 2014 and the Scots voted to remain part of the United Kingdom 🇬🇧, if they vote to leave in any future referendum then so be it … that’s democracy , they will probably get another chance after the pandemic 😷 is over .
@@waynesmith4589 The Scots will hold a referendum again, and 57% will say independence. long live free scotland and united ireland🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪👍🏻😎
No one should walk through Glasgow on a Saturday night especially white females.
I personally like the shared identity we share as a nation, under one flag - the union flag. However, the fact of the matter is that we as a nation have little control over our own affairs and all the decisions we would like to make - which are specifically tailored with Scotland in mind - are routinely taken from us by England. We didn’t want to leave the EU, doesn’t matter, England did. We didn’t want Borris Johnson, doesn’t matter, England did. Two examples which are droplets in a pool of examples where the English overreach into our affairs. Yes we have devolved powers, but it’s not enough. I would like for the United Kingdom to remain united, but the only way I can see this happening is if Westminster hand over full power to us and we stay together merely as a symbolic and cultural state. So many of those opposed to Scottish independence are so vehemently anti-Scottish that it’s a wonder they even want us in the first place. They view us as the conjoined twin in a womb of union, desperately wanting to devour us and take the spotlight. Well in that case, let us leave if we are such a burden - or, hand over control to us, and we can retain the considerable friendship that still exists between our nations as well as a national identity.
The issue I see with the UK as an outsider, is that it's kinda sorta but not really like a federal state, yet there's no such thing as a federal only government. Westminster is both the government of England and the government of the whole kingdom and when push comes to shove, it ends up looking at England for decisions because it's where most of its MPs come from. Democratically it's hard to argue that they shouldn't do that either, exactly because of their odd position.
The UNION FLAG Is about colonies and conquest, enabling helping yourselves to another countries resources! The dominant St Georges Cross on top is the real answer!!
i am sorry but i hear an awful lot of anti english sentiment coming from the scots or scotland.
The European Union will not accept Scotland first because there are many countries that will refuse to do so, especially Spain, which will use its veto in order to prevent Scotland from joining the European Union so that Catalonia does not secede from Spain and rejoin the European Union. Secondly, the EU will not be approved. Accession as long as the referendum is illegal means that the UK government did not agree to it. If the solution is for Scotland to remain in the United Kingdom, the European Union is not a paradise. If it were, Switzerland would have joined the European Union
They don't want us - they want our resources.
BONKERS BORIS: Scotland's best argument for independence.
fishlips sturgeon , scotland best argument for remaining in the UK
What about Brexit?
@@nicolastubborn9033
Entitled Boris is a failed two bit journalist that received his degree courtesy of his parents bribes.
Sturgeon is from a working class background and has a first class legal degree.
Night and day.
@@nicolastubborn9033 blojo hid in a fridge nicola has higher approval ratings over the world than blojo
@@markdonnelly1397 wheres the money gone , bet wee krankie canae remember , teflon knickers will do doubt slip out of another enquiry
I support Scottish independence!!
Why would anyone want to be Governed by another Nation? Scotland should be a Sovereign and Independent country.
EU vs UK? No brainer, EU wins
Scotland is part of this nation, and sends MPs to Westminster.
Scotland govern Scotland, they make their own decisions, their legal system and Education system are diffrent to the rest of the UK, and elected Scottish MPs sit in the UK Parliament were as no English MPs sit in the Scottish parliament.
@@alisonsmith4801 Good points. They have the best of both worlds, a dual British/Scottish identity, and influence over the rest of the country.
@@alisonsmith4801 why are the English so against Scotlands Independence? An Independent Scotland would gain greater Autonomy, in addition to having the opportunity to rejoin the EU again. I believe leaving the EU was a big mistake by the UK, with most Scott's preferring to stay in the EU clearly indicating both England and Scotland have different wants and needs which is leading to the inevitable split.
@@Themanyfacesofego The UK is no nation. The parts of the Union have their own government, own flag and play as an independent country in sports. Tell me what's the nation then and where is the constitution?
I have only one question to ask, why is England the only nation in the world that is terrified of its own independence?
Terrified?. Possibly. However as ever it is an economic reason. Scotland has some great assets and The Govt (tories) do not want us to leave because they wont have access to the economic assets in Scotland. Simple
Trust me. Boris Johnson is not a popular figure in Scotland. Even Scottish unionists have issue with him being PM
Boris was only ever popular in England, which in of itself speaks volumes for the English. No one else likes him. The rest of Europe is still in disbelief at the fact that he’s actually been elected PM.
Trust me. Nicola Sturgeon is not a popular figure in England, dosn't alter anything.
@@heucatiaNot just Europe, the world looks on Britian as they did with Trump USA. The image they put out has been crashed and burnt. The see English people who vote Tory, like Trump supporters.
@@grahamshepherd9305 Stop lying to people
Nicola Sturgeon (SNP): 72%
Keir Starmer (Lab): 44%
Willie Rennie (LDem): 29%
Douglas Ross (Con): 22%
Boris Johnson (Con): 19%
Richard Leonard (Lab): 18%
via
@ipsoMori Poll
@@grahamshepherd9305
11/01/2021
@OpiniumResearch
Opinium Research poll for - The Observer:
Nicola Sturgeon best performing leader in UK
57% (+24%) people in Scotland approve
97% SNP voters approve
61% Lab, 52% Lib & 30% Tory voters approve
63% of Scots think Boris Johnson should resign
In my personal opinion it is about time for the Scottish independence. Unfortunately Boris will not let the golden sheep go.
So actually the UK is rules by a dictator? One man decides that?
@@erikk276 Westminster is seeking to disrupt our devolved government and dictate to Scotland, especially with Johnson’s ‘Internal Markets Bill.’ In my view we need independence for Scotland sooner rather than later, so that the Tories in Westminster cannot sell off our extensive natural resources and Scottish NHS.
@@bettybiscuit9585 If I were Scottish I would oppose this with everyting I had. Incredible.
@@erikk276 yeah, he is an 80 year old Australian.
@@beegnutz So silly it must be true. Only someone who is senile can act like him.
just a note here: Scotland looks really beautiful, specially Glasgow.
Scotland got voted the most beautiful country in the world.
When the students in Glasgow were being interviewed the city scenes were a mixture of Glasgow and Edinburgh, for instance, 6.18 is Edinburgh.
@@Dunsapie Yea, some think Aberdeen is 30 mins away for Edinburgh. We find alot of people running around Scotland are pretty clueless about the actual country.
I disagree, Woodside in Aberdeen is one of the more scenic and beautiful places in Scotland.
@@jasonkingshott2971 I'd say it's a close call atween Woodside and Tilly
Its all about fear of the backbone of the British state being broken. The media bosses depend on it staying unbroken, people fear change, they feed on each other but the future of UK with no change from the incumbent regime is hellish from any angle. Those who write different just do it for the pay they get, paid to keep the status quo under any circumstance.
what will happen is the tadgers in WM will suffer from little man syndrome and will have to finally witness the end of the empire. WM clings to the coat tails of the US trying to prove it still has relevance and a major player in the world when it isn't. its a has been empire well past its sell by date which has gone off and rotten to the core
Corrupt elites will fight hard to stop the dismantling of the looting machines from which they draw their vast wealth
States that get all their revenues from selling their oil, gas and minerals could easily turn into kleptocracies where the majority stay poor.
Westminster doesn't want Scotland, just its resources.
Glory to Independent Scotland 🏴
What kind of union is it where 1 partner denies the other their freedom. Time to end this unequal, undemocratic dictatorship. Saor Alba 🏴
I don't hear the Province of Newfoundland wanting to secede from Canada or Tasmania wanting to secede from Australia. Or Arizona wanting to secede from the US. Or ...etc, etc.
The Scots are simply deluded by a woman who would be Queen.
@@fwcolb Scotland is a country, not a region
Tis a strange thing to see an *ACTIVE*
*COMMENT* Section in the Telegraph.
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@Arthur G. nein
Scotland has enough people, resources and political will to make ourselves better for all and not waste more time money and political will on a UK which keeps making mistakes and abusing it's own role in the union
Sorting out Scotland's drug abuse?
@@jasonkingshott2971 that could happen once scotland can make its own drug policies as an independently governed country. Look at portugal for example
@@andyc7917 Absolutely, good luck to any country that decides it's own future via a democratic referendum. I believe Scotland had the democratic opportunity to leave the Union but chose no to.
However, comparing Scotland's demographics to that of Portugal, is a little fanciful thinking it's the answer to Scotland's social problems.
@@jasonkingshott2971 i used portugal as an example of an independently governed country which can choose its own policies regarding illegal drugs. Not fanciful in the slightest. I mean scotland could carry on with the never ending pointless war on drugs with the rest of UK if it ever leaves, then just keep losing the 'war on drugs' for many more decades to come. Scotlands illegal drug problem needs sorting out, what would your solution be?
EDIT: if there were to be a hard border it could possibly benefit the problems of illegal drugs in scotland as i assume they probably come through england. But then again there are always ways to smuggle things into any country no matter what. These are only assumptions as to where the illegal drug trade comes into scotland they could come from air or sea also but my guess is that the majority come through england
My grandad was Scottish and I can totally understand why Scotland would want this. I feel a bit Scottish and would love for this to happen
Why would they want this ?...none of my relatives wanted independence ...my father didn't care if he was called British Scottish or English ...it's only the brainless wee krankies who harp on about it ...
it won't happen , the Scots are lots of things but they ain't stupid .
@@joerenwick5018 People in the south are saying they only care about the North since London votes Labour
@@kethughes8266 like people in London care about any other places then london
@@joerenwick5018 Most people in London come from other places like Scotland.I never noticed people in Scotland were any different when I lived there.
Do we want to recover our old Scotland or do we want to recover a new, better Scotland. Independence and economic recovery aren't two questions but are a mixture that could lead to a strong republic of Scotland. Independence is the thing we need to jump start a new economy.
maybe , but wee krankie ,bawbag blackford and the SNP cult aint the people to take scotland forward , division and hatred would be what its all about , they couldnt run a bath
@@nicolastubborn9033 ermm.. If they couldn’t run a bath then.. Who’s been running Scotland through these hard times?
@@thegreatestgeek2598 nicola is just a witless yoon gammon gobshite. nicola polls better internationally than blojo ever will
Focus on working together, it would be a folly to separate right now
Leaves EU during height of covid
...ok
No wonder the views have changed. One of the most important messages during the last referendum was that the only way to stay in the EU was to stay in the UK. That aged well, didn't it? Now that Scotland realizes how devastating Brexit is for Scotland - as well as for the rest of the UK - rejoining the EU as an independent country is a great way to get out of this mess.
Oil price is rocketing at the moment also. Good timing.
@@johnbinnie5697 Oil prices are not rocketing Brent crude is currently $75 a barrel the SNP based all it's figures in Indyref on it being $120
@@sebdcord Devastating for little England, yes. Don't take my word for it, listen to people like Mark Blyth e.g. here on TH-cam in "An economic case for Scottish independence".
The Scottish unionists are accidentally making a great case for Irish Reunification lol.
Go look up The Good Friday agreement. Can't happen unless the Republic of Ireland also votes for it. Both Ireland and North Ireland must vote the same for Irish Reunification. Heard much about that happening? No me neither.
@@bradavon Polling shows that the people of the Republic of Ireland are overwhelmingly in favour of reuinification. Wouldn't take much to set up their own referendum, methinks.
It’s not just Scotland but also Wales and Northern Ireland that are looking to leave the UK currently. We are 4 separate countries and we are not in an equal Union. Independence is normal and there are many nations that show countries the size of Scotland or even Wales could easily survive and possible flourish on their own.
Your probably talking to people who have never left the country, can't see how other EU countries work just fine, their near neighbour doing just fine.
Some are just frogs sitting as the water as it starts to boil and too stupid to jump out of the water.
I like nationalism but nationalism within one island and a 90 km border separating two countries with a population lower than that of fricking Los Angeles is just ridiculous
@@inigobantok1579 What is ridiculous is how it’s four different ethnic groups, four different but related cultures and four different languages and how they still haven’t killed each other:
@@Artur-hg1qg What a collection of stupid comments!
Wales? Lol okay that would kinda be funny.
Gordon brown where did the pension money go ???? and stole Scottish seas 😡😡😡
Free in ‘23 🏴❤️🏴
William Wallace said FREEDOM...but Scotland is still under English control!
Please fight to get Scotland free!🏴🇮🇪🇪🇺
If they split may the queen go to Scotland on vacation?
Go Scotland! Free yourself .
Cheers from Italy 🇮🇹🏴
In 1707 Scotland gave up its monarchy to form a union under the Kingdom of Great Britain. Prior to this it was the Kingdom of Scotland and Kingdom of England. In 2014 Scotland voted to remain in The UK. Not once but twice The Scots have chosen to be in The UK. We don't know what the Scots think now because the only people we're hearing from never accepted either decision by The Scottish people anyway. Twice Scotland has chosen to remain. Neither were through conflict, war but a political decision.
All the problems are caused by the English dominant attitude..... I live in Wales...Even Welsh people want independence from UK.....🇬🇧🏴
14:45 it just comes to show Labour are just Tories here in Scotland. SNP and Green on coalition have won the parliament thankfully.
"He's a lovely man"
*Seconds later
- accuses him of being nothing more than a career politician not at all dedicated to his party's cause.
This is how snakes talk. Even if it's the pot calling the kettle black, just don't take anything these people say without a pinch of salt. They are putrid.
The Union was an Anschluss for Ireland 🇮🇪.
No one knows that no one voted for it, because under the Penal Laws, no Catholic could.
It’s interesting to me when he was talking to the unionist How England has not treated Scotland well. The English/Westminster doesn’t care about Scotland, Ireland or Wales it’s apparent in their policies
We support the dismembered of the UK 🇬🇧
Viva scotland
Latest Independence poll (1/12/21) 55% want Independence.
It's not if Scotland leaves the UK it's when and the Torys cant stop it and they know it.
Just moved to Scotland from England. Completely on the fence. I have so, so many questions that nobody objective appears to have come close to answering - fundamental things like border controls and passports, the future of the economy , generation of tax revenues, plans for public services.
It's fair a new referendum ..
It would appear that the union has had its day and is only a matter of time before it's finished
It was a forced Union which Scotland never wanted and still now in 2021 doesn't want it.
@@casperwallace9685 that's not exactly true is it ? Are people just deliberately forgetting that the majority of Scotland voted to stay as part of the union??
Any come backs mate ? 1707 when the union was formed, was it forced or did the Scottish government at that time bankrupt the entire country leaving us with very little option? Asking for a mate.
@@matts2496 A Scottish King in 1707 and the Scottish people in 2014. Unionists like to ignore those sorry facts.
Indepenadant Scotland lea ving England behind will become rich like Ireland and Danmark !
Why I am so worried about this I live in Brazil
Wrong, wrong. The Scottish parliament wasn't created in 1999, it was reinstated.
I voted No in 2014, and it had nothing to do with Cameron promising we would stay in the EU. The SNP are not offering real independence. They want to be a member of the EU.
EU is a peace project
Ah, that's obviously why they let Spain deny Catalonia the right to be independent....
The EU are war mongers
@@dredd1981 Nope, they said they would allow it if it was legal.
@@dredd1981 It's not the same story.
@@sofialadune9351 Vous avez raison.🇪🇺🏴🇪🇺
An union where only England decide everything,Scotland dont decide nothing ,only tory
"One man should be able to help: Gordon brown"
LOL
Who Gordon (the vow) Brown LOL
I love that they only show half of his face.
I will function as the 'I rolled my eyes' button.
The auld fool - Scotlands Toom Tabard.
The Tories useful idiot
Scotland is a proper country not like a corporation in London running England is. Scotland has a caring government wanting the best for its people. England is a small insulated group of super rich feeding off the mass of the British poor. Scotland has wealth when free that now it is getting the crumbs left over from the feeding frenzy in Westminster. Scotland is a European nation held hostage by a union that was forced on it. Alba is a loved sister nation to Eire. Time to be a nation again!
one of the biggest arguments for the Scots voted in favor of staying in the uk in 2014 was the affiliation ofif Boris denies a referendum, people will start to realize that this marriage is not so voluntary.
I think your old pal summed Unionists up quite nicely "...and for goodness sake - don't give the Scottish parliament any more powers!" It's exactly this sort of contempt for the will of the Scottish people that is driving support for Independence up and up and up. It's 2021, the 'know your place' argument quite simply won't wash any more.
DESPOT BORIS JOHNSON and his DICTATORSHIP, DESTROY SCOTLAND! RENDER IT POWERLESS TO DEFEND ITSELF! PLUNDER ALL RESOURCES, ABUSE TAXATION, PERSONAL ENRICHMENT FOR LONDON PARTIES, NO UNDERSTANDING OF CULTURE, NO RESPECT, DIRTY MONEY! BRIBERY!! SECRECY!
Why did we join ??? Who did it suit??? Why are we out of E.U. who did it suit?? Havens saved who does it suit?? Paying money direct to COUNCILS and by passing parliament, a backward step into the dark ages of mis-used funding, the Scottish Government owed BILLIONS for PFI school building, not forgetting junkets to see if it snows in Russia(for example) Poor quality food, empty shelves is Westminster,s idea of looking after people!"!
Foukes was the funniest.
SNP are making huge changes and managing so much better in Scotland
Q) Is that not a good thing?
But they are doing it on purpose. (0) (0)
@@robertgalloway3771 That would have been more of an impact, not shouted at everyone.
@@robertgalloway3771 PFI was Labours contribution to Scotland
They are tone deaf victorious and then building up Boris Johnson who is a buffoon
Should give the independence to Scotland and do not suppress their freedom.
Thanks to the policies of the Tories, supported by the Telegraph.
Yes, ‘well done’, Torygraph🤦🏼♀️
Tories have always been like this. Seems some English people are just waking up to them.
Which sounds better? Scottish Republic or Republic of Scotland?
Independent Republic of Scotland.
Please ask the English if they would like Scotland to remain in the Union. I suspect the majority would be OK with Scotland becoming independent and "not having to pay for them". It would be an interesting referendum!
Polls have been done several times including recently. England has always been a significant majority for wanting Scotland to stay, however, they have been pro another independence vote, so there's that.
@@C45-n2y it's quite democratic ;-) not that bad. Have a look in Spain or France... The situation is so worse there (in a democratic point of view)
@@glegof999 No doubt, I'd rather be an advocate here than there. Be nice if the beacons of democracy in the west actually stood by their faux-ideals
Just ask the English if they want England to be independent... the British won't allow that tho .
@@scotinternationalist1373 Who are the British in this case?
I'm not Scottish, and I believe in most cases separatists are wrong. Yet, here the only real solution is Scottish independence. It was the only choice for all the other nations the British used and abused.
Gove talks utter nonsense ... as usual ...
Can he speak anything else?
This is as far his little bag of arrogant lines gets him..
@@darthlazurus4382 Sure! Scottish independence will come, be it in a few or ten 10 years. As well as Irish reunification. The the UK will lose 48% of its land area and even more in waters. Perfect!
Boris does not like Unions he has got out of one but wants to stay in another.
It depends on the union it seems!
yeah why doesn't england want independence??
Brexit .
Economy? if Scotland will be part of the EU, at this moment is a gigantic Rebuild fund after the pandemic. Hundreds of billions Euro to share in EU. Scotland never gets so big funds from the UK I guess.
.....and end up like Greece, at the bottom of the pile?
All or most funds flow to England, from 92% OIL! 60% Gas, Whisky the lot! All that travels through England claimed as ENGLISH EXPORT. We get to pay HS.2 .Trident, London Sewerage, The Houses of Parliament Repairs ,and a lot more London Vanity Projects
Just matter of time .
I can't wait and see the Scottish independent
What a patethic report.
Why the mellow background music when Gove starts singing Boris's praises (from 18:45)?
Scottish independence 💯
The tories should let them leave. It would be virtually impossible for the labor party to win an election without Scotland
Interestingly, one of the main arguments that swayed old unionists in the early stages of ref. 1 campaign was the fact that this isn't true. At least, in practice, Scotland's vote almost never sways it. Ironically, it was Scotland that returned a surprisingly significant Tory vote in 2019.
If England wants tory, it gets tory. If it wants Labour, it gets Labour. More or less. With PR this would be an unquestionably accurate statement. Given the gerrymandering that goes on, Tories have 'luck' or 'support' on their side.
But yeah, the point is we almost never made a difference. Most of Britain was tory for decades. The red walls popped up, if I remember, some time around mid last century. When the English Red walls fall, ours means nothing. There are like 5.5 million people in Scotland. 🤷♀️
Your PM is gone it s a good thing! no more "clown" for UK🤣
England will be far better off without us, all we do is moan and blame them for everything that goes wrong.
But yet if that was the case why keep us around we moan because a lot of Scottish people don't like Westminster and how they handle anything look at brexit and covid they keep showing us they don't care about ordinary people.
Aye, right😉🇪🇺🏴🇪🇺
@@AlbaHistory Ordinary people don't care if Scotland gets independence