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As far as inspections, I moved to a temporary apartment near where my house was being built. I would stop by after work at least once a week. I introduced myself to the project manager. I would walk in with a level and a square and verify things were OK. At first the project manager rolled his eyes. I found that a corner of the foundation was not square. It was off a lot. I nicely brought it up to the project manager and he said they would have caught it but the fact I found it early probably saved us all a bunch of time. After they installed all the cabinets and plumbing fixtures, I found almost every one of them was leaking. I ran home and got a bunch of containers to catch the water and called the project manager. He thanked me, because I saved them at least a month because by the time he would have seen the problem, all the sink cabinets would have been ruined and it would need to be re-ordered. Lesson learned, be polite and not a pain. I also had an inspector to do the final inspection. He was surprised by how few issues he found.
Mark, builders usually want to have in their contracts that the buyer and buyer's representative have no access to the property during construction except during specific designated times and always under supervision of the builder. I think buyers should never agree to that, and insist on any time provided such access does not unreasonably interfere with the due course of construction or create a safety hazard for the project or builder. One thing builders really loathe is a pesky buyer snooping around the job site at random intervals checking on an in-progress project. They will always scream, it's a safety issue -- DANGER- STAY AWAY. Their attitude is what the buyer doesn't know, they can't complain about (at least until it's too late). OK, so let's agree that buyers will have their own steel toe safety shoes, reflective vests, safety glasses, and hard hats when they do show up. (That's rich with irony because about 90% of construction crews I see on residential projects don't ever wear the required PPE (personal protective equip) unless they suspect the OSHA inspector is in the area.)
Thanks for sharing your horror stories. I am sure you are saving people like my wife and I a lot of anguish. We are planning to relocate from Kissimmee, FL in a few months.
Hello! I’m really appreciate your videos since you are the only one promoting NC well! I want to move hopefully next year and I would love from you to share new homes walking in. I might give you a call when I’m ready.
Chris, What sort of clause(s) gives a builder the unilateral right to cancel a duly signed and partially performed construction / sale contract? I can understand if there was something no one contemplated or anticipated which completely frustrates completion, but just to do it because the builder can get more money by selling it to someone else for a higher price reeks of fraud, bad faith, and an intentional default. I n those cases you're aware of, what did the buyers' attorneys have to say about that?
This is why I didn’t want to get a new construction home during this market! Home builders are trying to build as many houses as possible for as cheap as possible, just to charge these insane prices. I just closed on a house built in 2018 so I’m hoping they weren’t as “rushed” to get houses out then
Chris, I did the exact same thing as your client. When I told them of my agent I told them that the deal was only going to get done if my agent was aloud to be with me during this process or I would wslk. They changed their views on the buyers agent very quickly.
Is there any sort of timeframe or statute of limitations on this representation issue? For example my parents went to a few places in the WF/Youngsville area in Oct 2020 just to look. They ended up not doing anything and are still in their home in Wilmington. When they were here visiting in WF in 2020 they met with the builder's rep at two of the places, and maybe spent an hour with each of them. Is an hour long enough to trigger this situation? If they wanted to revisit one of these places in 2022 would the builder be able to hold them to that stipulation on representation? Thanks!
It depends entirely on the builder. I would think enough time would have passed that if they went in with a realtor the previous visits in 2020 would be forgotten, especially considering how much everything has changed in terms of homes available and price points. Hope that helps.
Yes some if these happened to me. Eastwood Homes cancelled my contract. I was under contract for about 2 months which caused my husband and I to be almost priced out the market. They offered us the same spec home for atleast $40k more. They weren't trying to negotiate or anything. They even made the news because they did the same thing to other buyers in Durham smh. They have beautiful homes but that's not good business.
@@LivinginRaleighTV You're welcome. Thank you for informing people on what's going on and allowing us to share our experiences. It should be a crime to do this to people.
Hi Chris - we are building a house in Pittsboro and so far so good. Quick question, can a builder be issued a COO if the built in appliances like stove, oven and dishwasher have not arrived and can they make you close without said appliances been installed by the closing date? I know Covid has thrown things out of whack but we have bought houses in NJ and FL but there, built in appliances have to be installed in order to get the COO and of course cannot close without it. Again, with Covid and all we understand but moving into a house without a stove is not ideal especially when they might not have an estimated delivery/installation date. Our builder said that the county (Chatham) is issuing COOs and waiving appliances been installed. Do you know if this is true? They made it clear that the appliances were ordered back in Oct. 2021 and they don’t think it will be a problem but wanted us to be aware of the possibility. Thanks!
@@LivinginRaleighTV First,, they did what you said and didn’t ask if we had a realtor when we innocently stopped by to see their remaining new builds that were being advertised online. Then when we offered to buy one of the last houses they had for sale, we were strung along for a long time and ultimately told they were choosing not to sell the house after all and keep it to sell as a spec house. Well, several months and an 80,000 price increase later, we bought the spec house (from out of state). We were shocked when we were finally able to walkthrough the house. There were A LOT of poorly installed and missing finishes - things that were clearly listed on the spec sheet. We were even lied to by one of the construction managers about things like why closet doors were swinging the wrong way, why the kitchen tile wasn’t finished, and that the bathtubs were draining just fine (even after someone pulled a wad of paper out of the drain right in front of him!). I read a review on Guild Quality from someone else who bought a spec home from McNeill Burbank as well. They felt they were given all the “scraps”. It’s absolutely true. A couple of other examples we encountered were the warped shutters that FELL OFF after the first rain and dirt they piled up on the side of our porch so according to code they wouldn’t have to put in a porch railing (the dirt has already sunk several inches in just a few of months). There are many, many more issues in addition to these things but we’re hopeful they will fix them under the year warranty. If they do then I’ll let you know. The house we paid top dollar for certainly doesn’t look like it was produced by a “luxury home builder” as they like to refer to themselves.
Is it that they are not giving out and going over the agency disclosure form, or they are just "slipping" it in and getting people to sign them without knowing what they are signing? I suspect the latter, since the buyer would have recourse if that agent did have one of those on file with the buyer's signature on it.
Almost bought a townhome in CA and the builder basically did everything on the list my biggest issue was that they didn’t allow an inspection and there was no recourse, the “warranty” was total bs. It was comical the shower drain was sticking up out of the shower floor by like half an inch super weird and when I pointed it out they said it would be good to redo the bathroom and upgrade it anyway.. it’s a shame I loved the house.
When buyers walk into the Model home 🏡 if the onsite agent is licensed he or she obligated to disclose who they are working for. The problem is when that agent isn't licensed. Customers don't understand it. We as Realtors who represent our clients need to let them know about this.
Exactly. That’s why we provide this valuable information since not all realtors will and because a lot of people go exploring before they even have an agent.
When they write certain things into the contract that desperate buyers sign without knowing what it really means, it can be a very difficult situation.
Bro. Krispy Kreme off of peace street. 🤤🤤🤤 There’s also a good donut shop off of capital near 540. In the same mini mall section of Arby’s and Burger King
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This is why I love Chris’s videos. Always informative and full of value. I’m partnering with Chris when I buy in NC
Thank you! Really appreciate the comment
As far as inspections, I moved to a temporary apartment near where my house was being built. I would stop by after work at least once a week. I introduced myself to the project manager. I would walk in with a level and a square and verify things were OK. At first the project manager rolled his eyes. I found that a corner of the foundation was not square. It was off a lot. I nicely brought it up to the project manager and he said they would have caught it but the fact I found it early probably saved us all a bunch of time. After they installed all the cabinets and plumbing fixtures, I found almost every one of them was leaking. I ran home and got a bunch of containers to catch the water and called the project manager. He thanked me, because I saved them at least a month because by the time he would have seen the problem, all the sink cabinets would have been ruined and it would need to be re-ordered. Lesson learned, be polite and not a pain. I also had an inspector to do the final inspection. He was surprised by how few issues he found.
Mark, builders usually want to have in their contracts that the buyer and buyer's representative have no access to the property during construction except during specific designated times and always under supervision of the builder. I think buyers should never agree to that, and insist on any time provided such access does not unreasonably interfere with the due course of construction or create a safety hazard for the project or builder. One thing builders really loathe is a pesky buyer snooping around the job site at random intervals checking on an in-progress project. They will always scream, it's a safety issue -- DANGER- STAY AWAY. Their attitude is what the buyer doesn't know, they can't complain about (at least until it's too late). OK, so let's agree that buyers will have their own steel toe safety shoes, reflective vests, safety glasses, and hard hats when they do show up. (That's rich with irony because about 90% of construction crews I see on residential projects don't ever wear the required PPE (personal protective equip) unless they suspect the OSHA inspector is in the area.)
Waw ! First realtor ever to give this much clarity on new construction 👍 Especially useful if you are a first time home buyer !
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This video is full of great information that most people wouldn’t know without experience! Thanks for sharing all of this! Super helpful!
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Thanks for sharing your horror stories. I am sure you are saving people like my wife and I a lot of anguish. We are planning to relocate from Kissimmee, FL in a few months.
Hello! I’m really appreciate your videos since you are the only one promoting NC well! I want to move hopefully next year and I would love from you to share new homes walking in. I might give you a call when I’m ready.
Chris, What sort of clause(s) gives a builder the unilateral right to cancel a duly signed and partially performed construction / sale contract? I can understand if there was something no one contemplated or anticipated which completely frustrates completion, but just to do it because the builder can get more money by selling it to someone else for a higher price reeks of fraud, bad faith, and an intentional default. I n those cases you're aware of, what did the buyers' attorneys have to say about that?
thankyou for the warning.
This is why I didn’t want to get a new construction home during this market! Home builders are trying to build as many houses as possible for as cheap as possible, just to charge these insane prices. I just closed on a house built in 2018 so I’m hoping they weren’t as “rushed” to get houses out then
Yes we are definitely seeing a lot of cut corners, but there are some great builders not doing that fortunately.
I went with Dan Ryan wasn't perfect but my realtor noticed issues and they fixed it immediately before closing
Glad it worked out for you! Have heard a lot of people having bad experiences.
Chris, I did the exact same thing as your client. When I told them of my agent I told them that the deal was only going to get done if my agent was aloud to be with me during this process or I would wslk. They changed their views on the buyers agent very quickly.
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
Lol “a pregnancy test after baby is born”Lolol That is friggin’ hilarious!
Lol
Is there any sort of timeframe or statute of limitations on this representation issue? For example my parents went to a few places in the WF/Youngsville area in Oct 2020 just to look. They ended up not doing anything and are still in their home in Wilmington. When they were here visiting in WF in 2020 they met with the builder's rep at two of the places, and maybe spent an hour with each of them. Is an hour long enough to trigger this situation? If they wanted to revisit one of these places in 2022 would the builder be able to hold them to that stipulation on representation? Thanks!
It depends entirely on the builder. I would think enough time would have passed that if they went in with a realtor the previous visits in 2020 would be forgotten, especially considering how much everything has changed in terms of homes available and price points. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the video! Could you disclose which builders are these? Thanks
We don’t publicly disclose, however feel free to email us
Yes some if these happened to me. Eastwood Homes cancelled my contract. I was under contract for about 2 months which caused my husband and I to be almost priced out the market. They offered us the same spec home for atleast $40k more. They weren't trying to negotiate or anything. They even made the news because they did the same thing to other buyers in Durham smh. They have beautiful homes but that's not good business.
That is horrible. So sorry that happened to you. Thanks for sharing.
@@LivinginRaleighTV You're welcome. Thank you for informing people on what's going on and allowing us to share our experiences. It should be a crime to do this to people.
Continue to keep our community in your prayers the victims also our country
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Great video Chris, we have lived some or all of these scenarios.
Hi Chris - we are building a house in Pittsboro and so far so good. Quick question, can a builder be issued a COO if the built in appliances like stove, oven and dishwasher have not arrived and can they make you close without said appliances been installed by the closing date? I know Covid has thrown things out of whack but we have bought houses in NJ and FL but there, built in appliances have to be installed in order to get the COO and of course cannot close without it. Again, with Covid and all we understand but moving into a house without a stove is not ideal especially when they might not have an estimated delivery/installation date. Our builder said that the county (Chatham) is issuing COOs and waiving appliances been installed. Do you know if this is true? They made it clear that the appliances were ordered back in Oct. 2021 and they don’t think it will be a problem but wanted us to be aware of the possibility. Thanks!
“These naughty, naughty buyer’s agents . . . ‘🤣. Btw, this video is spot on. Also, beware of spec homes built by McNeill Burbank/Saussy Burbank.
Lol thank you!
What happened with that builder? Curious because we’ve actually never heard of anyone having a bad experience with them.
@@LivinginRaleighTV First,, they did what you said and didn’t ask if we had a realtor when we innocently stopped by to see their remaining new builds that were being advertised online. Then when we offered to buy one of the last houses they had for sale, we were strung along for a long time and ultimately told they were choosing not to sell the house after all and keep it to sell as a spec house. Well, several months and an 80,000 price increase later, we bought the spec house (from out of state). We were shocked when we were finally able to walkthrough the house. There were A LOT of poorly installed and missing finishes - things that were clearly listed on the spec sheet. We were even lied to by one of the construction managers about things like why closet doors were swinging the wrong way, why the kitchen tile wasn’t finished, and that the bathtubs were draining just fine (even after someone pulled a wad of paper out of the drain right in front of him!). I read a review on Guild Quality from someone else who bought a spec home from McNeill Burbank as well. They felt they were given all the “scraps”. It’s absolutely true. A couple of other examples we encountered were the warped shutters that FELL OFF after the first rain and dirt they piled up on the side of our porch so according to code they wouldn’t have to put in a porch railing (the dirt has already sunk several inches in just a few of months). There are many, many more issues in addition to these things but we’re hopeful they will fix them under the year warranty. If they do then I’ll let you know. The house we paid top dollar for certainly doesn’t look like it was produced by a “luxury home builder” as they like to refer to themselves.
Nikitl fuller nice to meet you it's a pleasure
Just love the fact my ceiling dry wall was put in with nails....
Is it that they are not giving out and going over the agency disclosure form, or they are just "slipping" it in and getting people to sign them without knowing what they are signing? I suspect the latter, since the buyer would have recourse if that agent did have one of those on file with the buyer's signature on it.
Most informative video that I have watched all year.
Thank you!
Almost bought a townhome in CA and the builder basically did everything on the list my biggest issue was that they didn’t allow an inspection and there was no recourse, the “warranty” was total bs. It was comical the shower drain was sticking up out of the shower floor by like half an inch super weird and when I pointed it out they said it would be good to redo the bathroom and upgrade it anyway.. it’s a shame I loved the house.
So sorry to hear. It's disappointing to see greed take over with some builders.
Where were you about to buy a townhome in CA? Been looking all over the state, but can't find any good options of where to buy.
Thank you so much for the info, I would take this advices when I buy a house, probably I’ll go to you!
Thank you and feel free to email us when you’re ready
When buyers walk into the Model home 🏡 if the onsite agent is licensed he or she obligated to disclose who they are working for. The problem is when that agent isn't licensed. Customers don't understand it. We as Realtors who represent our clients need to let them know about this.
Exactly. That’s why we provide this valuable information since not all realtors will and because a lot of people go exploring before they even have an agent.
Reaching out in your area
Chris it seems like there is no recourse or repercussions for bad behavior!?
When they write certain things into the contract that desperate buyers sign without knowing what it really means, it can be a very difficult situation.
I recently became a victim of such builder fraud. CAN SHARE MY STORY if you would like to cover it. #livinginraleigh
Wow sorry. What happened and which builder?
Avoid M/I Homes at all cost.
Thanks for sharing
What happened?
Sorry to hear
Tears of joy celebrate
You have to watch them builders and know what to look for
Exactly
Hi with all do respect can y'all do the best dounts in raleigh
Lol definitely… as soon as we get off our diet
@@LivinginRaleighTV Lol and alright
Bro. Krispy Kreme off of peace street. 🤤🤤🤤
There’s also a good donut shop off of capital near 540. In the same mini mall section of Arby’s and Burger King
Duck donuts ( cary location ) best ever ever ever
They are really good!
BEWARE OF RED DOOR HOMES!!
Did you have an experience with them?
Jesus these builders on the last two sound awful af, literal greed.
Yep! Exactly
Isn’t this what you wanted Rei? Congrats on your infrastructure bill. Lol.
@@ironfist458 what infrastructure bill I can’t vote?!
Hebrews 11vs 1 now faith is the substance of things hope for the evidence of things not seen
Big huggs
AVOID RALEIGH AT ALL COSTS FOLKS!!! BRICK HOMES OR NO HOME!!!
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How about burbs?