If your workload requires ECC, go with an Epyc. Supposedly there are no motherboards for either other option for which you can verify it is working correctly.
People using these to say the purpose of a pc part part is so dumb you’re pretty much saying the only thing that you can do with any device is just gaming.
@@nicoherrerai ye but are we really gonna put threadripper in the same series when its like 10 times bigger and has almost 2x more cores than the best ryzen 9 cpu with the worst in the current lineup?
As someone with all 3 platforms in a number of builds. My daily system (At Home) is actually a First Gen EPYC with dual 3090s, tripple monitor and a 4th display for multimedia consumption (movies, youtube). With Zenstates, I have the epyc chip OC and performance is between a 3950x and 5950x in cinebench and cpuz or faster if i push it up 200mhz more. Gaming, work, content creation is all child's play and it isn't the most powerful build I have. the best part is the expansion and 8 channel ram. I have 16 nvme drives in 4 asus hyper m.2 all in raid0 for accelerating whatever workload and also for a few of my games. granted, even if my games are run off any of the 4 8TB HDDs, its stil feels like they run off an NVMe since i use 128GB out of my 256GB ram for primocache along with one of the 2 nvme drives connected to the motherboard itself. So Yeah. There's no way you can have this much power with regular ryzen or intel consumer gaming platforms.
thanks this helped a lot. i was going to buy EPYC, 128GB RAM,RTX 3080 to play NFS Most Wanted(2005) . So now i bought core 2 quad(refurbished), 2gb ram to play it (just kidding) Nice video
Thank you madam ❤ for information, i search 🔍 this doubt on processors related but i not get, your video 📸 is very good for understand.A lot of thanks 🙏
Its funny hearing now that threadripper is made for professional workload and ryzen only for gaming, as ryzen destroys intel in the sense that you lose a tiny bit of performance (fps), but you gain much more and there is more room for workload with the added cores. You don't even need a threadripper to edit videos on one pc now. Amd is just toying with intel.
My laptop with an AMD 4800U CPU is blowing out my older laptop with an I7 7700HQ CPU when it comes to rendering videos, photos and even the occasional 3D editing.Oh yeah, not to mention the occasional code compilation as well. Of course it's not my main workstation, and I am looking forward to get an all team red system for that (Ryzen and Radeon) with the 5000 series CPU and 6000 series GPU.
Desperate Question: I'd like to upgrade my 2011, 21.5" Imac. I bought it for $20, it works and I was thinking if I upgraded the RAM from 2 gb-10 gb, the CPU, maybe the graphics card and changed the HDD to an SSD, I could play modern games on my Imac with no problem. It wouldn't be a perfect 5 star performance, but it'd work well. Right? Or not? Is it too old? If so, couldn't I upgrade these things and make it modern?
The 2011 iMac of that size has a major issue which is its graphics card. The best variant was offered with a AMD Radeon HD 6770M with 512mb gddr5 vram, which is absolutely NOT sufficient for modern games. Even a mere GTX 1030 has over 150% better performance, and that card is one of the worst value cards you can buy new today. For 20 bucks its a fine deal if the pc works, but I would personally not dump a single coin into it beyond what it comes with stock. Especially for gaming. If you are using it exclusively as a media pc to watch youtube, stream netflix, etc, then sure it might be worth upgrading to an ssd (if you can find a cheap option), but anything beyond that is a dead end in terms of performance and relevance in modern gaming. It's not even a matter of turning down graphics quality settings, I'd be amazed if you could even start up most recent games in the first place. Most of them require +3gb of vram these days, with popular games going for +6gb for semi stable performance.
Actually, it's kind of distracting that the video show other hardware than is being talked about in the video, like Intel CPUs, motherboards with an AGP slot, etc.
I'm very new to this so I'm just trying to get some advice if I want to record gameplay on the same computer I'm playing on as well as eventually edit it will an eight-core CPU work just as well?
Hi, very nice & informative videos. Is it is good to with AMD Threadripper 3960 (Zen 2) or RYZEN 5950X (Zen 3) for heavy workloads where the tasks (Molecular Dynamics simulations, Deep Learning, etc., will run for 2 - 3 days. For the above works, I choose to use RTX 3090 considering its vRAM, CUDA cores, Tensor cores. So, I have to use it 24/7. Can you suggest me whether I have to go with Threadripper 3960 or RYZEN 5950X
I would most certianly go with Threadripper 3960x. They run the same processor node from TSMC as the 5950x, and the Threadripper is vastly better at handling fluid dynamics and other core/thread heavy workloads with its core/thread count and much higher L2 and L3 cache. It just depends on how much you value the purchase cost, as well as more expensive cooling etc due to the non-standard socket for Threadripper. That said, cooling the Threadripper will be easier to manage due to the much larger die size so managing heat dissipation is less of a struggle, this might be good for longevity under sustained workloads. Also the Threadripper's ability to engage in quad channel memory access will help on productivity a lot. My personal experience is with 3d modelling and rendering, which also has high calculation requirements and here threadripper is the go-to option if budget can sustain it.
05:39 "Cache Memory doesn't impact gaming performance in any meaningful way" This has aged like milk, looking at how the 5800X3D and the 7800X3D perform so well in games
@@sideswipe248 I beg to differ. If it's in his budget then I support going for the newer gen regardless. But if he's on a tighter one and needs a cpu asap, the first-gen Ryzen chips are still pretty good and he can always opt to upgrade later down the line.
So.. Which of these would I need for Unreal 5, for full realtime animation in 4-8k in very large scenes that are all photorealistic from megascans with absolutely no hangup, we are going to do miniseries for our characters. Lots of space and very fast paced scenes with alot of visual detail.
My criticism of this video is that whoever edited it could have matched the b-roll footage with the narration. When she's talking about Threadrippers, show a Threadripper CPU, not a Ryzen 5. When she talks about "new motherboards", show a modern motherboard and not something with AGP from 2001.
lol Ya well i don't want to have to upgrade for the next 5 to 10 years on CPU so i have a TR 3900X 64/128 and its over clocked to 4.2 stable on all cores with 256 gigs ram, with that said i wont need to upgrade my CPU for years to come. and i just need to beef up a GPU. And with the future of VR and GPU changes my cpu will be more than current fore years to come.
Gamers: worries about ingame performance and fps I.T consultants: Laughs at such trivialities... Trying to maintain an infrastructure so the whole world doesn't crash.
I do host 2 servers on minecraft aternos running on a intel i5 10th gen on a laptop even tho I don’t like intel…. so do I go for Ryzen 9 3950x or threadripper 3990x? I’m not going epyc because those are extremely expensive
I highly recommend Ryzen Threadripper CPUs because a) vanilla multithreading from 1.15 to 1.17 seems to be active only on Threadripper processors in general, b) the memory controller of a Threadripper scales very well between 32 and 256 gigabytes of RAM, c) Ryzen Threadripper processors are quite cheap (1900x about €90, 2920x and 2950x about €300) and lastly, some mods and add-ons (like Endergy) are actually hardcoded to crash on any CPU except Ryzen Threadripper CPUs (this actually generated about 200GB of pure Minecraft crash logs on my previous computer). I hope this is enough information.
@@BeatstormX Apple could performs better than android but apple products are costly. Other hand, you can get a lot in android at considerable cost. That's the point the commenter was indicating :)
game developers struggle to prog games using 6 cores, so forget it. their biggest headache now, is using M2 memory to their advantage. Still no solution now.
I mean in the end its marketing, what you use it for is your call. And all of them are processors so in reality, the actual difference is just the technical specs, which also changes with new generations. Basically: Ryzen --> Regular Consumers Threadripper --> Enthusiasts or Workstation users Epyc --> Server But of course you can also run a server with a regular ryzen CPU, or game on an epyc CPU, if you really want to.
That's a monster machine for sure, but for that kind of money, you can get an xbox, nintendo box, and a playstation box, link them all to your TV and have money to spare for more games. Not to mention the electricity bill savings from that 3080 alone...
Epyc: servers
Threadripper: Workstation
Ryzen: PC
Thanks
Thanks man
Threadripper is still Ryzen
Ryzen: consumer CPU
Threadripper: consumer version of Epyc
Epyc: not consumer version of Epyc
If your workload requires ECC, go with an Epyc. Supposedly there are no motherboards for either other option for which you can verify it is working correctly.
Epyc: making games servers
Threadripper: making games
Ryzen: playing games
Not thats big brain time
Elements o
Threadripper is still Ryzen
People using these to say the purpose of a pc part part is so dumb you’re pretty much saying the only thing that you can do with any device is just gaming.
@@nicoherrerai ye but are we really gonna put threadripper in the same series when its like 10 times bigger and has almost 2x more cores than the best ryzen 9 cpu with the worst in the current lineup?
10:34 was all I needed from this video.
I'm 100 like
Thanks
You condensed all this nonsense video to 10 seconds, thank you sir. 🙏
❤
THANK YOU!!!!
Epyc server CPUs also have to balance power consumption with performance. Fit as much power in the smallest box for the smallest energy cost.
"a Ryzen 7 is so good for gaming that it wont bottleneck even the best GPUs".......Nvidia RTX 3090 enters the chat...
rtx 3090 won't be even bottlenecked by 3600x
Just take it up to 8K
It should be nvidia rtx3090:hold my bottle neck
Bruh ryzen 7 is soo high end
same goes for the plethora of intel chips
the difference: i can afford ryzen
I literally forgot the spelling for epic
After I saw the epyc !
As someone with all 3 platforms in a number of builds. My daily system (At Home) is actually a First Gen EPYC with dual 3090s, tripple monitor and a 4th display for multimedia consumption (movies, youtube). With Zenstates, I have the epyc chip OC and performance is between a 3950x and 5950x in cinebench and cpuz or faster if i push it up 200mhz more. Gaming, work, content creation is all child's play and it isn't the most powerful build I have. the best part is the expansion and 8 channel ram. I have 16 nvme drives in 4 asus hyper m.2 all in raid0 for accelerating whatever workload and also for a few of my games. granted, even if my games are run off any of the 4 8TB HDDs, its stil feels like they run off an NVMe since i use 128GB out of my 256GB ram for primocache along with one of the 2 nvme drives connected to the motherboard itself. So Yeah. There's no way you can have this much power with regular ryzen or intel consumer gaming platforms.
0:36
4:49
Which PC case is this?
It's a cooler master masterbox q5l
Its a musetex
Looks like a corsair spec delta
What's with all these women saying they are single in the comments😂😂😂
They asking for simps
Bots
I'm single
thanks this helped a lot. i was going to buy EPYC, 128GB RAM,RTX 3080 to play NFS Most Wanted(2005) . So now i bought core 2 quad(refurbished), 2gb ram to play it (just kidding) Nice video
You might as well start a server with that CPU ahahah
Still an underrated channel. Almost to 100k subs though.
yes, thats a amazing presentation
I have Intel 64core i7 3820 processor do you wanna buy it
I am in IT for past 10 years.. This is the most sensible video I have seen in a long time.. Great Work 👍 & All d best..!! 😊
I have Intel 64core i7 3820 processor do you wanna buy it
I wonder if a game startup script can pin it to a set of cores. Over time the user or a program can determine which are optimal.
Thank you for taking the time and posting. I feel this is a great overview of the various skews of AMD CPUs.
Thank you madam ❤ for information, i search 🔍 this doubt on processors related but i not get, your video 📸 is very good for understand.A lot of thanks 🙏
time: 5:44 This is untrue. Many game engines are developed with data oriented design so they can make the best use of the CPU cache.
Ryzen: if you pay for your pc
Threadripper: if your professional workflow pays for your pc
Epyc: if your company pays for your pc
Good advice and an interesting, clear commentary. Thank you.
Its funny hearing now that threadripper is made for professional workload and ryzen only for gaming, as ryzen destroys intel in the sense that you lose a tiny bit of performance (fps), but you gain much more and there is more room for workload with the added cores. You don't even need a threadripper to edit videos on one pc now. Amd is just toying with intel.
My laptop with an AMD 4800U CPU is blowing out my older laptop with an I7 7700HQ CPU when it comes to rendering videos, photos and even the occasional 3D editing.Oh yeah, not to mention the occasional code compilation as well. Of course it's not my main workstation, and I am looking forward to get an all team red system for that (Ryzen and Radeon) with the 5000 series CPU and 6000 series GPU.
doesnt ryzen beat intel in every single way?
@@ToxicNoxic 😂 well now it does yeah
I have Intel 64core i7 3820 processor do you wanna buy it
Ryzen 3 is ENOUGH for gaming, gone are the days where ryzen 5 is necessary for gaming... See ryzen 3100 & 3300x
Sattyam epically sense the 3100 is at like 115 I still haven’t seen a 3300x for sale tho
@@HayDog322 yes In my country too
But there are some games that requires more than 12 cores Cities:Skylines for example
Intel: Core i3, i5, i7, and i9
AMD: Ryzen 3, 5, 7, and 9
*I see a pattern here...*
Nah, its i7 i5 i3 then i9
Ryzen was probably supposed to be direct competitor to Intel Core
Desperate Question: I'd like to upgrade my 2011, 21.5" Imac. I bought it for $20, it works and I was thinking if I upgraded the RAM from 2 gb-10 gb, the CPU, maybe the graphics card and changed the HDD to an SSD, I could play modern games on my Imac with no problem. It wouldn't be a perfect 5 star performance, but it'd work well. Right? Or not? Is it too old? If so, couldn't I upgrade these things and make it modern?
Try r/pcmasterrace
I think the only thing you can upgrade is RAM and storage, but apple being apple i don't even know if that's upgradable
I think it would be better if you just buy a new pc if you want to upgrade every single part anyways.
The 2011 iMac of that size has a major issue which is its graphics card. The best variant was offered with a AMD Radeon HD 6770M with 512mb gddr5 vram, which is absolutely NOT sufficient for modern games. Even a mere GTX 1030 has over 150% better performance, and that card is one of the worst value cards you can buy new today.
For 20 bucks its a fine deal if the pc works, but I would personally not dump a single coin into it beyond what it comes with stock. Especially for gaming. If you are using it exclusively as a media pc to watch youtube, stream netflix, etc, then sure it might be worth upgrading to an ssd (if you can find a cheap option), but anything beyond that is a dead end in terms of performance and relevance in modern gaming. It's not even a matter of turning down graphics quality settings, I'd be amazed if you could even start up most recent games in the first place. Most of them require +3gb of vram these days, with popular games going for +6gb for semi stable performance.
Ryzen: for regular users, gamers and light rendering.
Threadripper: For rendering and workstations.
Epyc: For servers.
Actually, it's kind of distracting that the video show other hardware than is being talked about in the video, like Intel CPUs, motherboards with an AGP slot, etc.
What exactly does "for servers" mean though?
@ammm zeee but today a xeon is better than a threadripper?
@@raphaellima2156 definately no
Just learned something good video gained a sub
I'm very new to this so I'm just trying to get some advice if I want to record gameplay on the same computer I'm playing on as well as eventually edit it will an eight-core CPU work just as well?
yea as long and its a newer cpu it'll be perfect
intel : money printer go brrr
AMD: Core printer go BRRRR
Sheesh 😂😂😂
Hi, very nice & informative videos.
Is it is good to with AMD Threadripper 3960 (Zen 2) or RYZEN 5950X (Zen 3) for heavy workloads where the tasks (Molecular Dynamics simulations, Deep Learning, etc., will run for 2 - 3 days.
For the above works, I choose to use RTX 3090 considering its vRAM, CUDA cores, Tensor cores.
So, I have to use it 24/7.
Can you suggest me whether I have to go with Threadripper 3960 or RYZEN 5950X
I would most certianly go with Threadripper 3960x. They run the same processor node from TSMC as the 5950x, and the Threadripper is vastly better at handling fluid dynamics and other core/thread heavy workloads with its core/thread count and much higher L2 and L3 cache. It just depends on how much you value the purchase cost, as well as more expensive cooling etc due to the non-standard socket for Threadripper. That said, cooling the Threadripper will be easier to manage due to the much larger die size so managing heat dissipation is less of a struggle, this might be good for longevity under sustained workloads.
Also the Threadripper's ability to engage in quad channel memory access will help on productivity a lot.
My personal experience is with 3d modelling and rendering, which also has high calculation requirements and here threadripper is the go-to option if budget can sustain it.
@@Real_MisterSir Hi, thanks for the info 😊
05:39 "Cache Memory doesn't impact gaming performance in any meaningful way" This has aged like milk, looking at how the 5800X3D and the 7800X3D perform so well in games
Should I buy the Ryzen 5 1st gen or ryzen 3 3rd gen? Or just wait for the 4th gen?
Don’t ever first gen of what ever tier, not worth it. Ex: The Ryzen 5 3600 is a lot better than Ryzen 7 1700 even tho it has a higher core count
@@sideswipe248 I beg to differ. If it's in his budget then I support going for the newer gen regardless. But if he's on a tighter one and needs a cpu asap, the first-gen Ryzen chips are still pretty good and he can always opt to upgrade later down the line.
r5 3600 is the best all rounder for its price...if you have the money go for the 4th gen
R3 3th gen
Zen 2 Ryzen 3 would be good
Maybe I'm wrong but aren't they all Ryzen?
Ryzen
Ryzen Threadripper
Ryzen Epyc
Nah its just Epyc, but it is Ryzen Treadripper
They are all made by amd tho so idk why they refer to them as different brands and not just cpu types
gaming on threadrippers on Epyc is bad cuz they have low clock speed and many games use only 1 core and ryzen has good clock speeds
Damn.
Thanks to summarise, Ryzen 7 rocks, fuck everything else, unless you live in a server room xD!
Where is Athlon? 😂
hiding in the basement
So.. Which of these would I need for Unreal 5, for full realtime animation in 4-8k in very large scenes that are all photorealistic from megascans with absolutely no hangup, we are going to do miniseries for our characters. Lots of space and very fast paced scenes with alot of visual detail.
Threadripper 3990x
I thought treadripper was for servers too
It is
My criticism of this video is that whoever edited it could have matched the b-roll footage with the narration. When she's talking about Threadrippers, show a Threadripper CPU, not a Ryzen 5. When she talks about "new motherboards", show a modern motherboard and not something with AGP from 2001.
Will you please make a video on bottlenecking 😊🙏
I believe they already made one: th-cam.com/video/wwINCSdIYyA/w-d-xo.html
@@forhadrh oo okok man thank you I really not noticed that
Despite threadripper is for work station. The name itself sounds very cool 😎 👌
THREADRIPPER
lol Ya well i don't want to have to upgrade for the next 5 to 10 years on CPU so i have a TR 3900X 64/128 and its over clocked to 4.2 stable on all cores with 256 gigs ram, with that said i wont need to upgrade my CPU for years to come. and i just need to beef up a GPU. And with the future of VR and GPU changes my cpu will be more than current fore years to come.
3900X is a 12 cores cpu
Epic and Threadripper will be Xeon's successors. Thanks to Aliexpress 😄
Gamers: worries about ingame performance and fps
I.T consultants: Laughs at such trivialities... Trying to maintain an infrastructure so the whole world doesn't crash.
Ryzen: Boy
Eypyc: Men
Threadripper: God
Eypyc is better in fps and also the newest
@@mrsimple3636 so epic can be used to game as well! It’s not just specifically for “servers”
Love Threadripper, but it's only the demiGod. Epyc is the GOD.
I do host 2 servers on minecraft aternos running on a intel i5 10th gen on a laptop even tho I don’t like intel…. so do I go for Ryzen 9 3950x or threadripper 3990x? I’m not going epyc because those are extremely expensive
I highly recommend Ryzen Threadripper CPUs because a) vanilla multithreading from 1.15 to 1.17 seems to be active only on Threadripper processors in general, b) the memory controller of a Threadripper scales very well between 32 and 256 gigabytes of RAM, c) Ryzen Threadripper processors are quite cheap (1900x about €90, 2920x and 2950x about €300) and lastly, some mods and add-ons (like Endergy) are actually hardcoded to crash on any CPU except Ryzen Threadripper CPUs (this actually generated about 200GB of pure Minecraft crash logs on my previous computer). I hope this is enough information.
Outdated yes but what about the anthlon and. The fx ? Anthlon is super good for budget users right ?
FX is dead as heck, and athlon is only good if you lack money for cpu and plan to update later or just basic browsing stuff
Thanks
You forgot about the Fx and athlon 😢
So I have the lowest cost CPU nice. Even though I spent 700 dollars on my laptop. Double nice.
4:37 I saw that.
Intel vs Amd is like apple vs android
Apple (intel) looks cool but is kind of trash compared to samsung (amd)
My pc is AMD but My phone is Iphone what side i am?
@@runne778 you are balanced AS ALL THINGS SHOULD BE
@@runne778 LOL 😂🤣
Apple performs bettet than android, never had an apple right ?
@@BeatstormX Apple could performs better than android but apple products are costly. Other hand, you can get a lot in android at considerable cost. That's the point the commenter was indicating :)
what about amd threadripper you talked about ryzen threadrippper the weaker brother
Failed to explain why Epycs are better for servers than Threadrippers.
4:37 damn what is bro playing 💀😭
Wow. Quite a few things in this video did not age well at all.
Cole Curve
Jerald Trail
Gaming PC for computer chess engines needs as much CPU and RAM that you can give it. It will consume it all.
Charlie Plain
For total war games ryzen 9 often has a performance benefit.
Micah Shores
game developers struggle to prog games using 6 cores, so forget it.
their biggest headache now, is using M2 memory to their advantage.
Still no solution now.
Boyle Haven
Jaclyn Station
Angelo Keys
Lauriane Mills
Tnx
EVERY AMD CPU SERIES EVER
ATHLON
OPTERON
EPYC
RYZEN
PHENOM
THREADRIPPER
What IS the difference?! A lack of clarity in their product description is bad for AMD.
I mean in the end its marketing, what you use it for is your call. And all of them are processors so in reality, the actual difference is just the technical specs, which also changes with new generations.
Basically:
Ryzen --> Regular Consumers
Threadripper --> Enthusiasts or Workstation users
Epyc --> Server
But of course you can also run a server with a regular ryzen CPU, or game on an epyc CPU, if you really want to.
Antonietta Ridges
Kenneth Trail
I'm getting a Ryzen 9 3900xt because I can and also I'm putting a 3080 in my computer
That's a monster machine for sure, but for that kind of money, you can get an xbox, nintendo box, and a playstation box, link them all to your TV and have money to spare for more games.
Not to mention the electricity bill savings from that 3080 alone...
@@brianbatie6650 well he can afford why will he buy what u suggest? He don need to worry bout bills if he can afford that gpu horsepower.
Kendrick Centers
Rhoda Motorway
Corkery Summit
Casper Pines
Gorczany Bridge
Sylvia Road
Threadripper all the way!
Grimes Heights
Heller Fords
Alisa Crescent
Conner Mountains
„[Cache Memory] doesn’t impact gaming performance in any meaningful way.“ This aged poorly (see the x3D line of CPUs)
Harold Divide
Kutch Hollow
im greedy so i want the best build for gaming regardless.
Wait. Made in China?? Made in Taiwan? Made in Malaysia? All made in different places?
Imagining the psycho who games on an Epyc
Funk Trace
Stiedemann Isle
Damaris Causeway
This is pretty epyc 😏
Kacey Passage
Lebsack Roads
Juliana Underpass
Flatley Ramp
Meanwhile the rich brat :- I'm gonna go with threadripper
And I game on my Threadripper dont really care.