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Wiring A Newer Outboard Controller To A Older Engine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
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I'm actually using this video to reverse engineer the correct wiring for an engine that belongs to this remote - a 1998 Evinrude 115hp (intruder / spitfire). SOOO much more helpful than anything else I've run across in several days of searching!
When I grow up… I wanna be just like you.
Thank You! I have a 1983 Johnson with a BRP controller that was added before I bought the boat. I am having some issues with the outboard starting and I think the answer lies in this connection you demonstrated. I think something there is corroded or broken. Even if it is not, this was a great tutorial.
that is exactly what i was looking for, on youtube finding what you what can be a challenge but not today.
Great video, doing exactly the same thing, with BRP control and 50 year old Evinrude, has helped me a lot. Many thanks
Been looking everywhere for this information. Looked up buying one but here in Canada the cost is rediculous. Would love to have a detailed list of connections needed to do this. Big thumbs up for this video
Thanks. You could include your remote start system and other “tools” or tips to make it a well rounded video.
MAN your patient's is awesome with those wires I would have to stop and tackle it two days tops
Can’t tell how much I appreciate you for doing this thank you sir
Years later and this video is still doing the lords work. Followed everything you did and worked perfect. Question though, how did you resolve the horn? I would like it to beep when turned on and not sure it will beep if over heated while it’s currently spliced into the harness like you have it here.
By far a very helpful video,very much needed for all the Diy ppl like myself. Thx
If you cut clean line of wires, you could just cut back an inch if possible, an not cut wire end connectors. That way you could have useable wire ends instead of garbage! Now if you need wire ends specific to those ends you can solder wire onto inch wire. But you know all this! I liked you explaining the wire colors that helps me a lot. I have the old style on 48 Evinrude. I'd like to upgrade motor to four stroke.
Amazing video! Thank you for taking the time to make this. Saved me a ton of money. Those harnesses are $$$ now.
they were then too
Question… I have a purple wire coming off of my trim gauge. It goes to the little plug that went into the old throttle remote control. Does it need to go somewhere now? Or is it useless? I still have the black with white stripe, and the white with yellow stripe. But also a purple coming off the trim gauge.
You are the man! If you are ever in Virginia, I will buy you a beer.
Thank you!!! Been looking everywhere for wire color functions.
Man your good at what you do on these boats keep it up
Thanks!
Thanks so much great info which is hard to find now 👍
I don’t bother with a over heat alarm. I install a temp sender and temp gauge. That way I know when my motor is warmed up and if my motor is overheating
"Anything is a hammer if you don't have a hammer"
Hey Thanks for excellent video again with good info. Like all your other vids.
Liked this video, very helpful.
Would be great to see a video on how to change a tilt switch on a concealed side mount throttle .
Can’t find anything on TH-cam working on side mount throttles
Somewhat here:
th-cam.com/video/qGe3VOnoILQ/w-d-xo.html
I got a 1984 115 evinrude on a 79 16 ft Sylvin with a power pilot I had to fix 56 bucks I think it’s a 74 it has no beep no nothing except tilt trim reverse and forward I got this 16 ft. Boat cheap because it needs a lot of help it says 85 hp max but this is how I got it trying to get the right motor what a nightmare thanks for the information videos there great 👍🏻
My issue is I have old controller and a newer outboard. I can't find the right adapter harness that works, I've ordered 3x now.
Really appreciate for the video. I just change my motor and I need to solve the wiring.
Tha ks for the video. Big help. I'm having trouble getting my power wire to fit in the female pin. Any suggestions?
I bought a new ignition harness and the red plug end looked to match up but it did not go together as easily as your video. Is it possible I got a bad plug?
i can't find the adaptor harness , i realized its about a 6 year old video , any new links, i have a 73 , 65 hp evinrude and power pilot controller , wires are fine on motor side, need controller and harness ? any help would be appreciated .
Quick question where would you get the premade wiring harness? I have looked and cannot find it if you have a connection or part number I would greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I think the madman who wired my boat watched this same video but took half of the advice lol
Wish you would of hard wired it would of saved me 30 min of my life
Eres bien chingon Brandon
this is so good. cant wait todo the same thing.
I just picked up a 1986 Ebbtide DynaTrak 180ss ski/fish boat and trailer for FREE. Needs like work. It does not have a motor on it but I got a 100hp Johnson Javelin on the way. The control box had been torn apart and pieces lost. I'm thinking of buying a newer model like the one you have in video. Where can I find the cable with the Red end? The 100 Johnson I'm getting has the red plug still on it.
Great video ! Thank you.
I want to do this with my 1975 70hp johnson motor. Not sure if i should. Are the 6 pin exactly the same?
excellent video
Thank you for sharing this is very usefull
Great video thanks!! Is there a way to wire in the warning gauge instead of the horn, or was the gauge only for 96 and later models?
When it comes to the harness, since mine is already ran, couldn't I chop it at the controls? I have no plan on using these old junk controls anyways.
That old junk control i need one just to test my 70hp Evinrude Johnson someone cut all the wiring out thats why im watching this video
FWIW - soldering isn't always best. Race car builders use all mechanical crimps and shrink tube. The low temp "heat gun" solder / shrink in one step things are even worse - you end up with a cold solder joint nearly every time. Real solder is ok, but the heat, stiffness, corrosion point - crimping and shrink tubing like you do - is IMHO the BEST way to do it. Race car guys don't like solder mostly because vibrations can make the joints bad without being readily apparent it's bad.
Sweet, thank you for this helpful video
did the swap. warm up level has no effect. how can i adjust the cable so it functions correctly? thanks for the videos
The url you have for the harness from ebay does not directly take you to harness can you supply the correct or even one from Amazon please
I have a 1971 Johnson “Hydroelectric” 60 hp . It only has the one throttle cable. It has been sitting ( like new) for 40 +years (on the boat). Can’t get “ neutral . Can I replace the controller ? What specific model controllers will work? I bought a different controller that has a functioning “ neutral saftey switch( pollock style). Still can’t get neutral. Any suggestions?
Can you buy any control box as long as it say 10 pin to match my 10 wires comings from my motor with trim switches
Can you explain what are the magneto wires are they basically the kill switch wires
Any issues with the smaller wires on the tilt/trim on the new units? I have a CMC tilt/trim and the wires are 12 or 14. Looks like the wires on the new controller are 16. Hate to have to put inline fuses for the gauge step down on all 3.
Very helpful. Thanks very much. I have a 1978 Evinrude 85hp v4. The remote on the boat is trash. Will this style remote work with that motor? I appreciate the help.
sure will.
With some adapting.
My outboard is not shutting off with key or kill switch what i did wrong? I have the same throttle controller every cable is conected to the same
I saw the video on how to remove the control cables. I have mine removed but how do you instal then into the new throttle in this video, the nice BRP throttle
Any controller you recommend for an 83 evinrude 90hp? Thank you for this video so helpful
I have a CDI electronics wiring harness for my mercury 1400 and just bought a vevor throttle control box. Everything is such a mess……
thanks alot my dad need help with this :>
You may know I have a 92 omc with consealed side mount . Do you know if the brp 5006561 is a direct reacement
Great video. I’m selling my older 88 mercury along with its throttle assembly controls and I want a newer Yamaha so I’ll prob definitely have to get a newer one. I don’t want to deal with that old stuff ever again or even look at it lol.
Are you gonna sell your old remote shift if so I might be interested in buying it
Wallace Whitaker already did man. Sorry, I’m still confused on which one to use or buy. I asked one guy and he said I should get the Yamaha 703? Will that work for the newer 4 strokes?
HOw hard is it to take the key out to replace it
I cant find these parts on your links ? do you have any suggestions ?
If you read this i need your help, i have search everywhere and no luck. I own a 1989 boat/motor, great condition btw, i need to replace the control box and im confused. Just watched your video of course, but some people on google keep talking about the big red plug, so here my questions. Is the harness adapter made to go in the motor end or box end? Can i just cut the wires and joint them together or is the adapter mandatory? Hope you can read this thanks
Well, the red plug is just an identifer, it tells you which controller plugs into what. They have yellow, and black plugs as well. However your engine would have a red plug. If you buy a used controller (or new; old stock) with the red plug, itll fit your engine.
if you buy a newer style controller, it'll still work with your engine, you would just need the adapter.
And yes you could splice the wires as I did here.
whats wrong with your old controller.
@@BrandonsGarage thank you thank you so much, i’ll go to sleep happy tonight. There tons of info out there but sometimes you need specific instructions and cant find them. Control box works good but even know the boat is in good condition the box look very old, and i hate painting, so time for a new one. Yes mine is a red plug. Let me make sure im understanding correct, i’ll order a new style control box, but the box wont come with the red plug, the red plug there now will stay there and connect to the new box with the adapter? Thank you so much for the reply 👍
Hey there, I have a 1971 Model 85193A, Evinrude starflite 85hp motor and no controller. Having a hard time finding one. All the places I go say I have an electric shift and they don’t know of an controller that will work. Help! The internet is not being very helpful lol
Probably another silly Question... is this the Deutsch connectors, if so is it, DT series or DTP series, or would it make any difference
Is this only for evinrude? I have an 86 mercury will it work for that? Evidently they stopped making my controls
Sorry to bother you but what did you do for the electric choke
This is awesome. Thanks for the info! I do have a question. I have a pontoon that I plan to convert to a center console. When I get the new top mount controls, do they have a spot for the key switch? How would I go about wiring one? Thanks!
Can you please update your product links as I'd like to buy the parts so I can do mine 😊
got a 1975 evinrude the power pilot is worn out will this work on it?
thank you
So my throttle on my side surface mount like your newer control box is loose, ANYONE
have any idea how to disassemble the control box so I can figure out how to tighten things up.. Thanks
RJ
I don't know what motor the harness you are working on goes to, so is this going to be the same for a 1991 Evinrude 40 hp?
Model # E40TLEIA
I have a question I have a 87 Evinrude v6 200 HP my question is I bought the harness which is 248 how do I hook the accessory connector to run the gauges
Yo how did you have the kill switch on there.
It's built into the controller
I have a mid 80s 90 hp Johnson can you explain the three wires for the trim control and how to hook them up I don’t have the factory colored wires
Well what do you have?
Thanks!
Thank you!
How does the choke work on this type control box?
push key in for choke/primer
Thank You
Great video,,, question,,, could you do a video on replacing the key switch in the controller???? I replaced mine and now having trouble reassembling,,,,, shift cable works but throttle seems wrong,,,, thanks,,,!
Somewhat-
th-cam.com/video/HQ50FEWOMso/w-d-xo.html
and
th-cam.com/video/7GdwiRQxEtE/w-d-xo.html
Great video! I am installing an older 88 spl johnson to a 2000 glasstron. The boat (glasstron) has the ignition and gauges on the dash, separate from the controls. I believe the harness you picked up from ebay would work for my instal. My question is, other than the harness conversion is there anything else I need to change and does anyone have a model number for the harness in this video? Thanks in advance
I am so sorry for asking many questions. But how did you get the throttle cables attached to the “NEW” throttle. Yours were just already in there. And online it doesn’t show them in there
This video should show opening the controller and removing the cables:
th-cam.com/video/7GdwiRQxEtE/w-d-xo.html
I am having a problem wiring a Johnson 25hp J25TEETS. I am trying to convert it to a remote start and stick steering. I bought a wiring kit from marine engines. I also bought a new style brp, prewired control. Where did you find the connector that fits the new style ends? I am also adding a fuel solenoid. Any advice would be welcomed. Thank you. If you want to email me let me know.
Hey Brandon. I tested my horn on my old style OMC control and it worked for about a second and stopped. Can’t get it to work anymore. Did I fry the horn you think Or is there a fuse somewhere?
Hey bud, enjoy your vids!! Is there a way to get a hold of you?? I recently purchased a tilt/trim motor for my 1985 Johnson 50 HP, I cannot find out where the wire plugs in on my boat for the life of me!! It has about a 6’ cord on it!! Thanks
You should add Amazon links for EVERY ITEM shown in this video. Would be super helpful, AND, make you $$$..
Need to change mines but not sure if you can switch the lever to work on port side on a center console
yes, you can.
Great and helpful video. Thank you!
One question: Are the wire-colors the same, on the old engine and the new box?
I need to replace my Remute-Control-Box.
Close, only difference is the black (ground) new controller is black with white stripe, old is just black.
Otherwise, all the same.
@@BrandonsGarage Thank you very, very much. That really helps me a lot.
Can you use this on a Mercury 1984 50hp 2 stroke
im stuck with something man about the trim tilt swicht theres anyways where i can send you a pic to check something
Yeah, my email is in the 'about' section of my channel
@@BrandonsGarage awesome man thanks
@@BrandonsGarage I was checking the about area in your youtube profile but there's no email can you write your email here please
Awesome video
Vert informative video. Could you let me know what size of pins you used for this?
The first technical question, well done.
They are size 16; I prefer the stamped and formed.
@@BrandonsGarage Isn’t the red power wire a larger gauge?
Is there a way I could get in contact with you maybe you can help me out with a problem I am having with a 70 1990 Johnson outboard
Do you have a video of hooking up the tach to the boat?
No, but I should....
I'll make one soon.
Hi Brandon, I like your videos and have learned so much from them. Could I us my current harness, cut the harness before the old OEM control and just splice the wires together, adding the extra leads as you did, instead of using the quick plug connectors? In asking this, I know that your way is the proper way, making it easier down the road to just unplug. Thanks for you time. Keep up the great videos.
Of course you can -- a connection is a connection, and the disconnect plugs just mean you can disconnect and reconnect without cutting and re-splicing. Which you'll appreciate if you ever replace you controller, paint your boat, re-do your dash, or re-route major wiring. Choice is yours.
where would I find a controller for the 1985 Mercury 60 HP, does anyone know????
I might have missed it. What motor are you working on?
well, this would work for any 'red plug' motor, from 1973 to 1995.
however, I believe I was working on my 1990 40 HP at the time.
Can you do a video on your lower unit holder? Did you make it or buy it?
Bought that from a closing shop.
Making a video on it would be a pretty good idea.
I have 1999 boat with Johnson controls(harness) and I'm gonna mount a 1978 Johnson 150. Basically doing what you've done here. The difference is that I'd like to swap the motor side end of the 1999 harness with the same end of the 1978 harness( I actually have both harnesses). So I'm just gonna put the big red plug on the end of the 1999 harness and plug it into the older motor harness. Do you see any issues with doing it this way over the way you've shown.
Nope.
Only one wire is a different color too.
Black, became black with white stipe.
Otherwise, just connect them all together and enjoy.
@@BrandonsGarage thanks!
After connecting wires, I get power to the accessories but not the ignition(key). I reconnected the old harness and control and the motor starts. Connect the new one back and still not power at ignition. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
There is the 2 extra plugs that aren't connected to anything, one had 3 wire which I'm guessing was tilt/trim. Not sure what the other is or if its related to my problem but its 6 wire
I have a similar problem, my motor is a 1990, with a big red plug, but my controller and wiring are later model. I was going to cut the red plug off and rewire the motor end
Hello sir how do I get in contact with you I need some help( advice) I want to install a new controller on my boat it's a 1986 very old two-stroke motor Mercury outboard. I need to send you some pictures also
Technically speaking, instead of buying the retrofit harness, could I not just cut the old control end off of my existing harness and wire it to the new controls that way? Also my older style control doesn't beep when you turn the key, I know the horn works though.
I have the same question... Why use a new harness when you could just wire the new throttle to the old harness...
Doug McCullough hello,did you ever continue with cutting the old harness and adapting it to the newer control? I have an 1988 Evinrude 40 hp VRO I want to do the same to,thanks Ryan
Yep it’s me I never did end up doing it. I’m still trying to figure out if I want to go side mount or binnacle mount.
@@yepitsme9505 did you happen to do this? I don’t know why you wouldn’t just splice the wires together from the old harness...
Hi there I'm in the process of redoing a harness on my Johnson 50. Running into problem. Where in the motor does the black with yellow stripe connect to. Also where does the solid purple connect to
Well, are you doing the same thing as I did here? Or are you working on the engine harness?
Also, what year engine are you working on?
Without knowing these details, and assuming you ware working on a 1995 or prior engine harness;
The black with yellow connects to the power pack. This is the 'stop' feature.
The solid purple may not connect to anything; it isn't used in every outboards. I usually only see this wire used on larger engines, and then it connects to the stator or the voltage regulator.
1988 Johnson 50 it's a motor I picked up to use the red plug on the engine harness was cut off. It has purple with white stripe but the boat harness has solid purple and a purple with white stripe. Also the black with yellow stripe on the motor is cut and I don't know where it connects to the motor
Brandon, I had the OMC you had in a serperate, video, can I use this throttle in the video to replace it??
if you wire it, or get a conversion harness, sure
My only concern with that, is that there like two cables that have some “metal thing at the end” and I don’t know where to put those on the brp. I think they are called shift and throttle cable shifters
Brandon's Garage where do the shift and throttle cables go
Can you just hard wire instead of using adaptors?
You mean plugs?
Of course, but good luck finish the large red-plug end through things.
@@BrandonsGarage got a force 125....the main cable coming from motor that goes to controls was cut...can I wire it to my cable already coming out of my existing cable..both are mercury brand
Hey mate,
Any chance you could provide part numbers for the harnesses? The links just send me to the main eBay page
Where can I find a power trim and tilt harness like the one you showed in the video? Got a part number by chance?
Best would probably be ebay:
ebay.to/2CAmHWE
0583205
Brandon's Garage thank you! Thats a huge help, much appreciated
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