I installed( on my 2020 TB) the rough country 1.5 level kit specifically designed for the Trail Boss as soon a I purchased it in 2020, zero issues and run 295/18/18’s with no rubbing , but on stock wheels…. No issues with stock upper control arms as of yet with just over 24K miles
I have a 2021 Silverado 1500 RST. I was told by everyone there was no kit for it (this was Jan 2021). BellTech Had a 6" full kit. It showed up and weighed in more than double the other similar kits. It's really heavy duty. It was advertised as one kit for 2wd and 4wd. I have 35x12.50s with zero rub
How did you end up addressing rubbing against metal in front? I just put on 1.5” RC level, 295/70/18’s on 18x9 +1 offset are rubbing at full lock in front as well.
Good video man, love seeing what works. Def have to get 35s on mine too, but I may wait until you find the better setup with control arms and such. But for $50 and some time, can’t complain too much lol. Looks great.
Those look like the same uc arms that are on my 2019 z71 rst...also I had rub issues w 33x12.50s after rough country level...figured out there were brackets behind liner I could remove to clear w room to spare...caught hell w it and rubbed marks and a hole in one fender liner I was mad
@@matt13ross yep...the concerning thing to me on yours is the rub on the front side of fender wells...mine was all backside and those aggressive tires will rub a hole in that carpet in no time
Great job, can't wait to get my ZR2. I did reach out to Peak Suspension and they plan on building parts specific to the ZR2 - I didn't specifically ask about a leveling kit as I was more interested in an AAL for overlanding but I'd assume they would eventually since they did for the Colorado ZR2
Depends on the dealer, they would have to notice it, and it would have to be the source of some kind of needed repair. For example, if the engine fails, the level kit isn't going to remove my engine warranty.
So ready lift now says their leveling kit works for ZR2, they have updated website to reflect plus emailed me to confirm. Not sure if this info was out there but it is now.
As of today that information is off there site. have kit 1/2 installed and technician says strut bolts are too short. Readylift is saying it never fit. would love to see that email!
Matt: I am so glad you are so enthusiatic with your new Silverado. The newness hasn't worn off on my Colorado. I am still in love with it. I went to Millenium Chevy to get service the other day and I made sure I did not bring a signing pen. I am like a 70year old kid in a candy store. You are so handy with tools. I hope all your ideas work out. What ever makes you happy. You and your girlfriend STAY WELL, STAY SAFE& TAKE CARE FRANKIE FLORAL PARK L.I.
All in all, with the new tires and levelling kit, how much more height did you add to your ZR2? Asking cause I live in the city and underground parking is more secure, and I’m already finding it hard enough to find a garage with 6’8 of clearance. I do know that you’ve added height to the front, but with it pivoting on the axis over the rear axel, did it add any height to the roofline in any noticeable way?
Trailboss and zr2 have the same frond ends except A arms are different part numbers. And shocks. Buy aftermarket A arms with caster adjustment. Like Mazzulla or dirt king with rod ends. Pay someone to install it unless just in case you need to adjust caster it will be a pain.
@@matt13ross A arms = control arms and it would definitely be a good idea to get ones that do have adjustment options like mentioned. Dirt king fabrication, and I believe kibbtech, they're pricey but quality don't cheap out on a $80k truck lol
@@matt13ross yes a arms refer to upper and lower, but kibbtech and dirt king both make upper control arms and lower control arms just a recommendation on some quality parts.
It does make you wonder why they didn't just put a 35 on them from the factory. Especially when marketed as a wheeler. You have tempted me to look at some trail boss trucks.
@@matt13ross Nah. I had 35” on the Silverado and went back to 33”. Better off road traction on uneven surfaces, better radial clearance, and better all around Utility. I’ve got a 6” lift and there’s plenty of space for the tires to move around whereas the 35” had no where to go when they needed space.
@@cristianhernandez8176 maybe or maybe it’s a cheaper alternative. It’s like Toyota putting all season on a 4runner TRD Pro. Cost saving Cristian 🤦🏻♂️
@@matt13ross yeah im a big colorado zr2 fan but sold it due to the lack of features. The new zr2 is cool and all but not for that price should have been at most low 60s and ditched the trailboss as an option
@@matt13ross I first put the 2 in leveling struts on my 2018 GMC Sierra and now I’ve ordered a 2.5 in spacer for the top . Bout to see if this works haha
I give ya credit man, willing to start hacking away at a 70K+ truck. Appreciate the video, was looking at a Colorado ZR2 but think I still need a full-size.
Upper Control arms is the best way to lift the front of Silverado. I did it for my trail boss and other pick ups and it Rides the exact same. Yes it’s more expensive and should get a alignment after but it’s worth it!
I am willing to bet the ZR2 shares every other component other than the shocks with the Trail Boss. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your view.
BAJA KITS BRO. You and your 34”s lol. I’m kidding but yeh Baja kits, mazulla racing, dirt kings, kibbetech. Don’t buy any other junk. Those are reputable companies and you have a ZR2. A desert runner. I believe the pivots upper control arm mounts are the same, possibly just gussetted more because it’s the ZR2. Zr2 has a stamped steel upper control arm compared to the trail boss which is casted. Trail boss and zr2 are 90% same Frame sharing from trail boss. Just like the Colorado platform. KEEEP GOING. Love the channel.
@@matt13ross do it. Dirt king. I have Baja kits and dirt king has a video that shows the difference in quality and design between the arms the provide versus others and its honestly better. My Baja kits uca are cool but ehh..
Why would you buy a Z R2 and not a High Country or a LTZ definitely don't like the plastic trim around the fender wells , and those shocks will end up going into the trash when you buy a 6 inch lift kit to fit 35s
Because it just came out and I had a Colorado ZR2. Definitely not doing a 6" lift, not a fan of big lift kits at all. Possibly mid or long travel kit, yes. Would I have been better off with a Trail Boss? Yes
We have rovers on Mars, releasing drone helicopters controlled remotely from earth with 8k video....But yet....Gm still uses fucking wax on there frames??. Seriously...
Just curious why you even purchased a ZR2, seems like you would have been better off with a base model trail boss. Not trying to sound like a total dick but this video reinforces why I don’t like to purchase used trucks.
@@matt13ross It means I would not want to purchase a truck that costs this much from someone used knowing that it may have been monkeyed around with like in the video
@@matt13ross You had a ZR2 specific (very expensive) part rolling around in the driveway taking a sawzall to it. It’s your truck not mine so guess I really shouldn’t say anything, probably the crown apple talking, I apologize sir!
Because raptors have insane markups on them a raptor will be at least 20k more right now so it’s much cheaper right now to buy a zr2 now if you have the patience I think raptor prices will come down big time once the raptor r comes out.
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I installed( on my 2020 TB) the rough country 1.5 level kit specifically designed for the Trail Boss as soon a I purchased it in 2020, zero issues and run 295/18/18’s with no rubbing , but on stock wheels…. No issues with stock upper control arms as of yet with just over 24K miles
I think RC makes upper control arms for their kit as well.
I have a 2021 Silverado 1500 RST. I was told by everyone there was no kit for it (this was Jan 2021). BellTech Had a 6" full kit. It showed up and weighed in more than double the other similar kits. It's really heavy duty. It was advertised as one kit for 2wd and 4wd. I have 35x12.50s with zero rub
I want to see what the truck looks like with out the front bumper end caps
I may space the bumper forward, so perhaps I'd take them off just to see what it looks like.
The zr2 has a factory lift, so putting leveling spacers on it puts to much strain on the ball joints. You have change the control arms.
I did
This was impressive and trailblazing. Haven't seen anybody take the DSSVs off yet. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
You mentioned that these rub mainly due to wheel offset, how do you think 295/70/18 would fit on factory wheels? Less rubbing?
Def less rubbing with stock wheels.
You need some kryptonite upper control arms for the ball joint angle.
How did you end up addressing rubbing against metal in front? I just put on 1.5” RC level, 295/70/18’s on 18x9 +1 offset are rubbing at full lock in front as well.
I spaced the front bumper forward.
Good video man, love seeing what works. Def have to get 35s on mine too, but I may wait until you find the better setup with control arms and such. But for $50 and some time, can’t complain too much lol. Looks great.
Thanks for the support!
I’m more of a MOPAR guy but loving the new trucks coming out. Your video was pretty damn cool 😎
Thank you!
Those look like the same uc arms that are on my 2019 z71 rst...also I had rub issues w 33x12.50s after rough country level...figured out there were brackets behind liner I could remove to clear w room to spare...caught hell w it and rubbed marks and a hole in one fender liner I was mad
I'm trying not to cut up the fender wells, but I may have no choice.
@@matt13ross yep...the concerning thing to me on yours is the rub on the front side of fender wells...mine was all backside and those aggressive tires will rub a hole in that carpet in no time
Probably going to space the bumper forward to solve that.
DSSVs are position sensitive. So you've now changed the pre-load on them with the spacer. You can have ride and handling issues with that level.
That's what they say, not that I don't believe them, I'm just not sure it's much of a change.
Great job, can't wait to get my ZR2. I did reach out to Peak Suspension and they plan on building parts specific to the ZR2 - I didn't specifically ask about a leveling kit as I was more interested in an AAL for overlanding but I'd assume they would eventually since they did for the Colorado ZR2
I feel like it's going to be a long time before companies start producing parts for these trucks, but hopefully I'm wrong.
We’re already on it
Does a level kit void the warranty
Depends on the dealer, they would have to notice it, and it would have to be the source of some kind of needed repair. For example, if the engine fails, the level kit isn't going to remove my engine warranty.
Love it man. Love all the content. Keep it up!
Thank you!
can you explain why a 2" level does not result in 2" more of height? Newbie here trying to understand that
Companies often give a generic measurement, it's usually not completely accurate.
So ready lift now says their leveling kit works for ZR2, they have updated website to reflect plus emailed me to confirm. Not sure if this info was out there but it is now.
Nope, that's news to me! I may have to grab that kit.
As of today that information is off there site. have kit 1/2 installed and technician says strut bolts are too short. Readylift is saying it never fit. would love to see that email!
Keep it coming !! Loving the Info and mods !
Thanks! Will do!
Build is coming along nicely..Get some Dirt King upper control arms. 👌🏻
Looking at those :)
i just put some steps on my TB and was covered in the tar. stupid is an understatement.
PITA! Idk if they will ever change it.
Matt: I am so glad you are so enthusiatic with your new Silverado. The newness hasn't worn off on my Colorado. I am still in love with it. I went to Millenium Chevy to get service the other day and I made sure I did not bring a signing pen. I am like a 70year old kid in a candy store. You are so handy with tools. I hope all your ideas work out. What ever makes you happy. You and your girlfriend STAY WELL, STAY SAFE& TAKE CARE FRANKIE FLORAL PARK L.I.
Thanks Frankie!
All in all, with the new tires and levelling kit, how much more height did you add to your ZR2? Asking cause I live in the city and underground parking is more secure, and I’m already finding it hard enough to find a garage with 6’8 of clearance. I do know that you’ve added height to the front, but with it pivoting on the axis over the rear axel, did it add any height to the roofline in any noticeable way?
Math says 1.75 for the level and 1” for tires. So 2.75 total.
Damn you made that look easy haha😅
Hi Matt how many Inc lift suspension, you use to fit perfect the 35s?
Only about a 1" level.
Truck is looking real good. 👍🏻
Thanks!
Trailboss and zr2 have the same frond ends except A arms are different part numbers. And shocks. Buy aftermarket A arms with caster adjustment. Like Mazzulla or dirt king with rod ends. Pay someone to install it unless just in case you need to adjust caster it will be a pain.
What do you mean by A arms? The upper or lower control arms?
@@matt13ross A arms = control arms and it would definitely be a good idea to get ones that do have adjustment options like mentioned. Dirt king fabrication, and I believe kibbtech, they're pricey but quality don't cheap out on a $80k truck lol
Right, but you mean upper or lower? 1500s have an upper and a lower control arm. I'm looking at uppers.
@@matt13ross yes a arms refer to upper and lower, but kibbtech and dirt king both make upper control arms and lower control arms just a recommendation on some quality parts.
I’d love a full kit that’s mid or long travel with new shocks.
Love your videos.. Always great information..
Glad you like them, thanks for the support!
Should have changed those upper control arms to an aftermarket unit designed for more angle.
They're coming, gimme a bit.
Does doing that void the manufacturer warranty?
Probably the suspension warranty at least
How are the cv angles?
Not bad, I'll get better footage in a future video, maybe Instagram pics too.
Hi, are the tires 17 or 18?
18s
It does make you wonder why they didn't just put a 35 on them from the factory. Especially when marketed as a wheeler. You have tempted me to look at some trail boss trucks.
Who knows! Plus, the new Colorado ZR2 has the same size tires.
Do some research but I believe the 4" lift kit for the trailboss will put you at a total of 6" lift and should have absolutely no rubbing 😉
I'm sure that would work, I'm not a fan of big lifts though. I like medium ride height but with big tires.
I feel that 33” tires are good enough
Oh disagree there! 33s would be good on the Colorado.
@@matt13ross Nah. I had 35” on the Silverado and went back to 33”. Better off road traction on uneven surfaces, better radial clearance, and better all around Utility. I’ve got a 6” lift and there’s plenty of space for the tires to move around whereas the 35” had no where to go when they needed space.
They look weird, big truck with small tires.
@@djw5415 they put 33" on for s reason🤦♂️ on the new zr2 bision you can fit 35d
@@cristianhernandez8176 maybe or maybe it’s a cheaper alternative. It’s like Toyota putting all season on a 4runner TRD Pro. Cost saving Cristian 🤦🏻♂️
Hopefully it works ok as a temporary fix. It will have to be done properly later.
That's my thought.
@@matt13ross I like the wheels. Enjoy your truck from Carlos.
Thanks!
I only have a leveling kit with 37 inch tires
Just have to take the mud flap bracket off
On a ZR2? Stock wheels?
I seen an interview with a gm engineer and recall him saying the upper control arms are the same.
Dumb, should have just bought a Trail Boss SMH.
@@matt13ross yeah im a big colorado zr2 fan but sold it due to the lack of features. The new zr2 is cool and all but not for that price should have been at most low 60s and ditched the trailboss as an option
Agreed there.
With a 6 inch lift on mine 35s still rub a little in front
I believe that.
Maybe a wheel alignment and some 1/2in wheel spacers will do the fix?
Alignment yes, but spacers actually make fitment worse. As you turn, a spacer makes the wheel proceed further into the fender wells.
@@matt13ross I first put the 2 in leveling struts on my 2018 GMC Sierra and now I’ve ordered a 2.5 in spacer for the top . Bout to see if this works haha
Yikes man, that's too much lift for the rest of the stock stuff lol.
@@matt13ross let me also say I ordered 2 inch blocks for the rear. Upper control arms and rear shocks.
Ah that’s better. Curious if it works. That’s pushing the limits.
Looks great I believe the 33s even rub at full lock LOL
Probably close lol
33s don’t rub at full lock. You have to do body mods to get the 35” to fit
I give ya credit man, willing to start hacking away at a 70K+ truck. Appreciate the video, was looking at a Colorado ZR2 but think I still need a full-size.
Upper Control arms is the best way to lift the front of Silverado. I did it for my trail boss and other pick ups and it Rides the exact same. Yes it’s more expensive and should get a alignment after but it’s worth it!
Right, just need to confirm if any of them will fit the ZR2.
I am willing to bet the ZR2 shares every other component other than the shocks with the Trail Boss. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your view.
I think that’s 💯 accurate. Sadly.
Your right.. It literally has different shocks. And a front locker. That's it.
Very nice bro
The car looks dope ❤️👍
Thanks ✌️
Great video! Honestly, I was going to unsubscribe after you stopped the Colorado content, but I love the new ZR2 stuff!
Hey I'm glad you're sticking around!
Should've just went with the ReadyLift.
Problem is, they say it's not for the ZR2.
Ah yes if you haven’t given the part a middle finger during the install process, we’ll your just not doing it right! Great vid as always bud.
Lol right??!!
Great video but you didn't have to spin the strut top 180°, you could have just swapped the left & right struts.
Ya know, I thought about that after the fact. I'd assume it would work, but not positive.
Have you figured it out?
I sold the truck.
I just don't understand why GM didn't make the tire rubbing their main priority, they know these trucks are made to target those off roaders
Agreed, but I'd assume because they were being cheap and didn't want to design new fenders.
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Thanks Frankie, you too!
BAJA KITS BRO. You and your 34”s lol. I’m kidding but yeh Baja kits, mazulla racing, dirt kings, kibbetech. Don’t buy any other junk. Those are reputable companies and you have a ZR2. A desert runner. I believe the pivots upper control arm mounts are the same, possibly just gussetted more because it’s the ZR2. Zr2 has a stamped steel upper control arm compared to the trail boss which is casted. Trail boss and zr2 are 90% same Frame sharing from trail boss. Just like the Colorado platform. KEEEP GOING. Love the channel.
34s, 35s, meh same thing lol. I'm looking at those companies for sure. Also taking a peek at some long travel kits....
@@matt13ross do it. Dirt king. I have Baja kits and dirt king has a video that shows the difference in quality and design between the arms the provide versus others and its honestly better. My Baja kits uca are cool but ehh..
I’m gonna have to check out that vid!
Upper control arms need to be swapped out
That's the plan, just need to find some.
Why would you buy a Z R2 and not a High Country or a LTZ definitely don't like the plastic trim around the fender wells , and those shocks will end up going into the trash when you buy a 6 inch lift kit to fit 35s
Because it just came out and I had a Colorado ZR2. Definitely not doing a 6" lift, not a fan of big lift kits at all. Possibly mid or long travel kit, yes. Would I have been better off with a Trail Boss? Yes
Too bad you still have some rubbing with the tires.
For now! Have some plans to fix it.
The tar undercoating was there dumist idea yet
It's been that way for years, maybe even decades with GM.
SHEEEEEESH
Should've gotten a TRX 😉 lol jk, love the ZR2 content.
LOL didn't want to spend another 20K and get WORSE fuel mileage lol.
@@matt13ross TRX goes for 75k and I am averaging 11 MPG around town (I don't drive easy) I got mine for 96k (Level 2) so they can go for more lol
Yea that's over 20K more than my ZR2 lol.
@@matt13ross Sure, if you get top of the line ;)
We have rovers on Mars, releasing drone helicopters controlled remotely from earth with 8k video....But yet....Gm still uses fucking wax on there frames??. Seriously...
LOLOLOL couldn't be more right!
Just curious why you even purchased a ZR2, seems like you would have been better off with a base model trail boss. Not trying to sound like a total dick but this video reinforces why I don’t like to purchase used trucks.
Because I wanted one, and I had a Colorado ZR2. I don't understand, what does this video have to do with used truck purchases?
@@matt13ross It means I would not want to purchase a truck that costs this much from someone used knowing that it may have been monkeyed around with like in the video
Monkeyed around with? Simply putting a leveling kit on? lol
@@matt13ross You had a ZR2 specific (very expensive) part rolling around in the driveway taking a sawzall to it. It’s your truck not mine so guess I really shouldn’t say anything, probably the crown apple talking, I apologize sir!
Ha no biggie. The level is reversible so NBD IMO.
Nice truck but very boring...
35 inch tire is not a big upgrade. Stop wasting time and money. Buy a Raptor.
Why am I wasting time and money on a truck I bought by upgrading it?
@@matt13ross Just buy a Raptor and call it good.
Because raptors have insane markups on them a raptor will be at least 20k more right now so it’s much cheaper right now to buy a zr2 now if you have the patience I think raptor prices will come down big time once the raptor r comes out.
Love Raptors, but plenty of people have them. Doing something different here with the Z.
ZR2 is the cheapest, though it should be a lot cheaper lol.
Silverados are well known to be a pain in the ass to fit bigger tires . I have a ram with 35 and no rub anywhere, I only cut the fender a bit
You are hyper, are you a drunk
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