Pedalboard Tip: Put the loop part (soft part) of your velcro onto you pedal and the hook part (pointy part) on the board so your pedals do not stick to the carpet, most people usually have it the other way around
Was wanting a video like this for awhile, only a 3rd year guitar player, I was trying to cover all the basses of guitar rigs, pedal board..ect. This helped me a lot. Thanks PG & John
That's a great video John and PG. Very useful and no doubt a vital future reference for pedal enthusiasts. Thank you, I'll be sharing it for sure. The only thing I'd add would be to try and isolate digital pedals from analog in the power chain. That is, don't daisy chain digital with analog if you can help it as it will help avoid a potential 'mozzie' like frequency running through your signal. Cheers, B.
+Danny Skrims Yes you can as long as your power brick can handle the milliamps. I use a 1 Spot CS12 from Truetone. As long as your power brick have designated 300 to 500 ma, you can run pedals like TC nova delay, line6 m5 ect.
I would also suggest experimenting if any pedals sound better to you in the effects loop rather than in the front of the amp. Or even which pedals sound better before or after a distortion pedal. Those were huge tonal factors for me.
+Roman L I totally agree man, a lot of your modulation effects tend to sound better in the effects loop compared to right into the front. But hey, in the end it;s your own sound, so build it how you like it, we're just random people on the internet,.
I found that Fender amps take a lot more kindly to putting all the effects before the pre-amp. Some amps don't like this at all, but Fender seems to be ok.
Some great advice here. I wish there was something like this when I was getting started. I would like to see in a future video: 1. Pedals that go into effects loops. 2. True bypass and buffering 3. You mentioned digital pedals, so there should be some mention of AC power. And with AC comes strict current requirements WRT power. 4. For the future, I think a video (or series of videos) on MIDI boards from floor to rack would be very useful if you have 14 or so pedals -- think RJM's Mastermind to a RG-16 or something similar.
im not an electritian and i like a simple set-up..but it sounds like taking the time to experiment with the way you play and what you like is key,thanks for this info.
I used to run hosa cables with a daisy chain for my pedalboard, I redid the entire thing with a BBE Supa Charger, and Mogami cable(redco sells bulk cable) with neutrick jacks and it made a pretty noticeable difference immediately. I had to turn the treble down on my amp! Much less hiss and hum!
I have a suggestion, for everyone with a Pedaltrain or anything else that's open & allows cable routing underneath: rather than use velcro (which has failed me, and made a gooey mess), get a cooling rack (for baking) sized appropriately for your board and with at least 1" squared grids (to allow angled cables to pass through), zip-tie it to the underside at the four corners, get a spool or bundle of nylon cord or equivalent and cut enough length to tie each pedal to the board (burn the ends as fray-check, damp paper towel nearby). I did that, and zip-tied the bigger pedals. You'll never have to worry about the velcro failing in the summer heat, and you don't have to remove any feet from the bottoms. Alternatively, I just bought a cheaper non-Pedaltrain board without slats (want to stop burning through money so quickly), and tried not even securing the pedals, but padding inside the case with the bubble wrap from shipping or an old T-shirt ... they don't really move around in transit, the board's flat when I'm playing anyway, and I feel more free to experiment with pedal order or substitutes than on my other board with pedals tied down (or when I had velcro).
Very good instructional on pedalboards! I would like to add use a steady base. I used to use a board that came in a bag. Biggest problem was the board moving around on stage when I used a wah! The whole darn board moved. I solved the problem by converting to a Pedaltrain rack. It's rock solid and stays in one place when I use the wah. Well worth the investment.
I love the sag functionality of the Pedal Power Mondo. Sounds great with my wah. Good video, I can't say I like solderless cable though. IMO its usually better to take the time to make your own soldered connections. If you're worried about space just find some nice gold-tipped pancake connectors and you're on you're way. Decent video either way!
I have a mondo under my board as well and it's great! Even for my 18V pigtronix compressor, it's great having all your pedals on with a simple, universal, 3 prong plug.
***** some people like to delay the reverbed signal and sometimes if you have a tremolo you might want a clean cut on it so there no reverb lingering and making the tremolo roomie. but it's all preference, there's no right or wrong, just depends on your kind of music.
sammy reynolds yes, it was back in the days when reverb pedals didnt exist....you dont have to argue with me, just grab your tube amp, put some drive on it, put a reverb pedal in front of it and listen it yourself...simple..
Very helpfull video... I have my own board set up for my bass. Envelope filter -> octaver -> compressor -> fuzz/overdrives -> Preamp (SFT) -> phaser -> Delay... but it's still work in progress. Actually it's all powered by an old 9V powersupply TFT monitor... relatively cheap, but it does the job and it's very silent! I'm currently building a dry/wet blender to put parallel to my dirt boxes... a great addition for bassists i think!
Speaking about power, what he didn't mention but is quite important to know: There are two parameters which determine electrical power: Voltage (V) and current (1A = 1000mA). And there's a little confusion going on. 1st: Voltage needs to fit!! Your supply should never give you higher or less voltage than what's written on your pedal (or in the manual)! A little more (like 1V) should be fine because good pedals should be protected (see manual). But this may reduce life time and makes you lose any warranty. Also pay attention to AC or DC (there are pedals that need AC power) 2nd: Current printed on the supply unit must be higher than (at least equal to) what's on the pedal. Even if it's ten times as high, That's fine. There's no limit. If you use a daisy chain, add the current of all your pedals, and it must still be lower than your supplying output. Don't ever run a digital pedal with less current than it needs, you can seriously damage it!!
Thanks very much! One of the most informative yet. Some great suggestions... I'll be building my first board in a few days. And I don't give a crap how many undermines were used....it beats a Brit who's already had too much coffee with 6000 words to go....
Great video John. The only thing I would add regarding pedal placement is that some pedals such as loopers and delays with tap tempo are easiest to work with when you don't have to stretch too far for them, so I'd keep them near the front of the board if possible.
Firstly, that's personal preference, plenty of people run them in front of the amp (and many great amps don't have loops). FWIW I generally use them in the loop. But secondly and more importantly, my comment was about physical placement of the pedals on the board, which has nothing to do with where they are in the signal chain. Your comment makes no sense as a reply to mine.
Martin Cliffe You're quite right that many great amps, & especially older amplifiers don't have an effects loop and if you check their spec's, you'll find that most of those amps eg Fenders, Marshalls, Ampegs etc had spring reverbs situated (which fall into the same effects genre as delays, loops etc) AFTER the Preamp (interestingly - that's the effect of an effects loop - effects going straight to the poweramp, bypassing the preamp), but stick to your dogmatic point Marty, I wouldn't wish to dissuade you of your ignorance, short leg length for reaching those rear pedals & abstract thought for lusting after those intellectual heights.
Great tips! but one very handy thing to put underneath your board is an plug box, some pedals are going to hum all te time if there going through the same power supply. You can think of de real hard distortions/tube screamers. I plug my tubescreamer on it's self in the plug box, really helped with that great distortion sound.
Pedal and signal path were shown reversed at the beginning. Most pedals it's input Right, output on Left. Corrected when pedals were actually being mounted and wired. Might confuse some, just sayin'.
I have a BBE Sonic Stomp, and a Dyna Comp on my pedalboard, I like to run those in front of everything, including my wah. Do you have a reason as to why you put your compressor after the wah?
I really enjoyed this video. I really feel like my rig will not have undermined integrity after watching this video XD. Seriously though, great job John. You're a really cool dude, and you're always so casual when doing videos like this, it's really enjoyable and entertaining to listen to you speak about this stuff. I personally have a Pedaltrain Nano, which I managed to fit 4 Boss/MXR-sized pedals and a mini pedal, so obviously most of these tips involving longer chains don't really apply to me, but it's still interesting watching board wirings. I personally find no problems using a wall wart (Visual Sound One Spot), but maybe that's because I have but a few pedals. Anyways, loved this video! Cheers guys!
I want this John when he does the rig rundowns. Chilled. Relaxed. And smart. He seems so fake in his interviews and I don’t like that. He seems like a cool dude and a cool player. So I know he knows what he’s talking about in those interviews.
Be sure to put any pedals that are sensitive to input impedance(anything you might use your volume knob to clean up) in front and before anything with a buffer. I prefer the sound of my Muff with the volume rolled back a bit but if I use any pedals in front of it, it responds like the volume is cranked and gets harsh
Great video John. I have all my cables hard wound & put together by little Fairy's with added Fairy Dust sprinkled on for good measure ;-) LOL Great point about not going cheap & trying to save cash on the cables that make your board work. Why get a 2,000.00 amp & a 2-3K guitar then add a grand worth of good quality pedals only to crap on your tone with cheap "Radio Shack" quality cables. I personally use Mogami & haven't have one crap out on me yet :-) Lava Cable makes a nice set that you can cut to your own board layout. Plus as a rule of thumb if your going to have more than 3-4 pedals throw in a Buffer pedal at the beginning or the end of your pedal chain. If you've got more than 8 pedals put a good Buffer pedal at the start and One at the end just to be safe :-) Great video.
When I first got my distortion pedal I think I put my wah in front of it and it sounded like crap (the wah) so I had to put the distortion then the wah
I want to know why my fuzz face mini silicon sounds terrible with single coils 😩 it sounds like the voice in front of a fan only with humbuckers sound good
I have a question: How the output, the input, mono sounds are connected? The guitar to the pedal, to a amp and a recorder. How the input and the output can work accurate? Not to make a buzz noice either a cancelation sound
Aaron Zepeda If there's a buzz, there might also be something wrong with your power supply. Try with a battery to see if that's the case. It may also be caused by an energy saving lamp (turn off the light: Is it still buzzing?) There are many possible causes!
Hello, could you tell me something of what you present if I would do well to get different sounds with my harmonics and if so, which one of them would you advise me. Thanks Colegui. Luck
I would likely use a little extra audio cable to avoid proximity to power cables. If I remember correctly, when they come close try to have cables cross perpendicular as opposed to running parallel. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Nice video.
I'm still wondering which would sound better: Overdrive pedal into a Distortion pedal or Distortion pedal into an Overdrive pedal? I have a Fulltone Full-Drive 2 MOSFET and an MXR Super Badass Distortion and I like to use the Full-Drive as a boost pedal. Any suggestions?
Hello 5 years later lol. I would say if you wanted to experiment put the full drive first, then the badass distortion and get a clean boost pedal ie TC spark. That way the full drive can be your light overdrive, the badass your heavy and for solos hit the spark to stand out. Also the full drive on with the badass will boost the gain and make it heavier. Cheers from the future 🤘🏻
So you put fuzz before the wah, but OD and distortion after the wah? Can someone explain to me the purpose of that? I have my wah at the very front of my effects chain before everything.
why are the pedals laid out backwards?..(3:25) "Jimi put his fuzz after the wah.." and then you place it BEFORE the wah..why? also Hendrix had his wah wired so that it could be used before his fuzzface..so it made sense that he did what he did.
does this pedal board go directly into the front of the amp or does some of the pedals go to an effects loop, such as the delay and reverb, or even the last in the chain, the looper?
Thomas Weikel if you use the overdrive channel on your amp in combination with modulation/reverb/delay etc. it's better to put those through the effects loop, otherwise your modulation/reverb/delay comes before your drive and that doesn't sound right. If you use the clean channel you can put every other pedal in front of the amp, just make sure any modulation/reverb/delay comes after your drive pedals. But experiment with the order and effects loop, there are no real rules really, but for me personally this is the way to go.
Hello john, very good video for begginers, i didn't understand that you say "overdrives/dist and compressors they might sound better if run it into a power supply that offers sag" Can anyone explain it more ? thx!
Some power sources (like the voodoo lab pedal power mondo) have power inputs that allow the electric current to oscillate, so that it mimics a dying 9v battery. Some people like that sound, especially on fuzz and overdrive pedals. If you have any pedal that can be powered by a 9v battery, try doing that instead of plugging the pedal into an electric source. You might notice how the sound of the pedal will change once the battery doesn’t have enough juice to provide a steady amount of current
Ok what if you used one wall supply per pedal? Would that be considered isolated and cut down on noise? I ask because I have five pedals (one is a tuner) and I only play at home so I don’t need a pedal board and I don’t need it to be portable. I just want it to sound good!
Great video!!! I bought those same soderless cables and they are horrible. They went out and some lost the tip. Anyhow, great and sound ideas. How do you feel about looper pedals to control multiple pedals with one switch?
Is there another way to get pedals to stay tightly on the pedalboard without having to stick velcro on it? It's mainly due to OCD issues and I don't really want velcro permanently on my pedals which may perhaps decreasing their selling value.
Cables will impart certain sonic characteristics into your tone. It is often recommended to search for a cable with low capacitance (all instrument cables should have this quality, just some lower than others). Another thing I personally look for is durability. For my money I like the Dimarzio braided instrument cables do the job. Extraordinary durability and a clear sonic difference over my old cheapo cables. Musician's Friend usually has the most complete stock as far as length and color variants go.
Max Tor Well the Dimarzio cables I use have are 33.27 pF/ft, which I believe is slightly lower than Gearge L's, which a lot of people consider very good cables. So 33-37 pF/ft about I suppose? It's not the end-all-be-all number of a good cable, but it gives an idea of the signal pass-through. I would just avoid the cheapest of cables and possibly do a little experimenting
Amazing video! For the order, you mentioned a booster in the middle and an overall volume booster at the end. What’s the difference between the two? I’m pretty new to pedals
John, I know this video is old, but it was a big help. Thank you. Appreciate all your videos.
Glad it was helpful!
Love John's videos! He always sounds like a real expert without sounding condescending at all
***** It helps to be a "been there done that" kind of guy.
Pedalboard Tip: Put the loop part (soft part) of your velcro onto you pedal and the hook part (pointy part) on the board so your pedals do not stick to the carpet, most people usually have it the other way around
I like it when they stick to my robe!
Homeowner Tip: carpets are for garbage people; tear that trash up and replace it with attractive (and healthier) laminate flooring
@@lazylion420 jesus...the sarcasm is real. Love it. I was thinking the same thing.
@@lazylion420 carpets are way more appealing on bare foot. Laminate flooring is good if you want to break your neck after getting out of the bath.
Well, I use a board with carpet attached to it, so I gotta go with the crowd
Was wanting a video like this for awhile, only a 3rd year guitar player, I was trying to cover all the basses of guitar rigs, pedal board..ect. This helped me a lot. Thanks PG & John
That's a great video John and PG. Very useful and no doubt a vital future reference for pedal enthusiasts. Thank you, I'll be sharing it for sure. The only thing I'd add would be to try and isolate digital pedals from analog in the power chain. That is, don't daisy chain digital with analog if you can help it as it will help avoid a potential 'mozzie' like frequency running through your signal. Cheers, B.
Or just don't use digital pedals at all...
+Danny Skrims Yes you can as long as your power brick can handle the milliamps. I use a 1 Spot CS12 from Truetone. As long as your power brick have designated 300 to 500 ma, you can run pedals like TC nova delay, line6 m5 ect.
Guitar to pedal then pedal to amp? or guitar to amp like normal and pedals to my DSLs fx loop in back of amp? Brand new to pedals, app tips. Thanks
Agreed. I have two power bricks, one for analog, one for digital.
Drinking Game: Take a shot every time he says undermine
I knew that this comment would be down here. I just knew it.
Ben Milford I’m afraid to play that game,Ben.
LOL
@@alabastersmidge4692 You summoned me?
Gak! I can’t take anymore.
SUCH A GREAT QUALITY VIDEO! i want more of these. it's so rare you get great PRACTICAL information just like this. congrats and big thumbs up
I would also suggest experimenting if any pedals sound better to you in the effects loop rather than in the front of the amp. Or even which pedals sound better before or after a distortion pedal. Those were huge tonal factors for me.
Roman L Absolutely.
+Roman L I totally agree man, a lot of your modulation effects tend to sound better in the effects loop compared to right into the front. But hey, in the end it;s your own sound, so build it how you like it, we're just random people on the internet,.
Roman L. Yes. Takes a ltitle more set up time but worth a try!
I found that Fender amps take a lot more kindly to putting all the effects before the pre-amp. Some amps don't like this at all, but Fender seems to be ok.
Roman yeah a good rule of thumb is time based effects go in the loop, dirt/volume goes in front.
Some great advice here. I wish there was something like this when I was getting started.
I would like to see in a future video:
1. Pedals that go into effects loops.
2. True bypass and buffering
3. You mentioned digital pedals, so there should be some mention of AC power. And with AC comes strict current requirements WRT power.
4. For the future, I think a video (or series of videos) on MIDI boards from floor to rack would be very useful if you have 14 or so pedals -- think RJM's Mastermind to a RG-16 or something similar.
Dude, at 2:17 you delivered exactly what i've been looking for. Big thanks!
if he says undermines the integrity one more time.... so help me god
I think him saying that really undermines the integrity of the video
You're undermining your integrity letting it bother you so much.
John Bohlinger has a lot of integrity about not undermining the integrity.
Undermining the Integrity sounds like a bad metalcore band name.
So much integrity…so much potential for undermining it.
Great work, as always, John. I look forward to all your videos for your skill, knowledge and your great playing.
im not an electritian and i like a simple set-up..but it sounds like taking the time
to experiment with the way you play and what you like is key,thanks for this info.
I used to run hosa cables with a daisy chain for my pedalboard, I redid the entire thing with a BBE Supa Charger, and Mogami cable(redco sells bulk cable) with neutrick jacks and it made a pretty noticeable difference immediately. I had to turn the treble down on my amp! Much less hiss and hum!
IN THE LEFT CORNER...THE UNDERMINER!!!!!!
I have a suggestion, for everyone with a Pedaltrain or anything else that's open & allows cable routing underneath: rather than use velcro (which has failed me, and made a gooey mess), get a cooling rack (for baking) sized appropriately for your board and with at least 1" squared grids (to allow angled cables to pass through), zip-tie it to the underside at the four corners, get a spool or bundle of nylon cord or equivalent and cut enough length to tie each pedal to the board (burn the ends as fray-check, damp paper towel nearby). I did that, and zip-tied the bigger pedals. You'll never have to worry about the velcro failing in the summer heat, and you don't have to remove any feet from the bottoms. Alternatively, I just bought a cheaper non-Pedaltrain board without slats (want to stop burning through money so quickly), and tried not even securing the pedals, but padding inside the case with the bubble wrap from shipping or an old T-shirt ... they don't really move around in transit, the board's flat when I'm playing anyway, and I feel more free to experiment with pedal order or substitutes than on my other board with pedals tied down (or when I had velcro).
Very good instructional on pedalboards! I would like to add use a steady base. I used to use a board that came in a bag. Biggest problem was the board moving around on stage when I used a wah! The whole darn board moved.
I solved the problem by converting to a Pedaltrain rack. It's rock solid and stays in one place when I use the wah. Well worth the investment.
john sounds really cool when he's not interviewing somebody
I love the sag functionality of the Pedal Power Mondo. Sounds great with my wah. Good video, I can't say I like solderless cable though. IMO its usually better to take the time to make your own soldered connections. If you're worried about space just find some nice gold-tipped pancake connectors and you're on you're way. Decent video either way!
I assume that at 13:00 the signal got finally buffered.
I have a mondo under my board as well and it's great! Even for my 18V pigtronix compressor, it's great having all your pedals on with a simple, universal, 3 prong plug.
Definetely one of the best guides on pedalboards. I have seen hunderds because I plan to build my pedalbard in the next months
Go home drumkit in the background, you're drunk.
JamesShore1990 hahaha!
I know nothing about drum kits. But the more I look at it ... the more I laugh.
And thanks.
Thats funny AF
I shouldn’t have read through the comments before actually watching the video. It really undermined the integrity of the info. Lol but nice video :D
Why isn't the Reverb pedal at the very end? Isn't THE ROOM naturally the last thing to influence the way your guitar sounds?
***** yes..so much so that a reverb should actually always go through the loop, not in front of the amp..
***** some people like to delay the reverbed signal and sometimes if you have a tremolo you might want a clean cut on it so there no reverb lingering and making the tremolo roomie. but it's all preference, there's no right or wrong, just depends on your kind of music.
Pe Peroni You do know there was a time when amps didn't have loops right?
sammy reynolds yes, it was back in the days when reverb pedals didnt exist....you dont have to argue with me, just grab your tube amp, put some drive on it, put a reverb pedal in front of it and listen it yourself...simple..
Pe Peroni I do everyday. Lear to tweak a reverb pedal. if you can't do that then you need to sell your gear because you suck.
I would highly recommend using 3M:s Dual Lock instead of the velcro. It is a lot more durable, holds the pedals better and does not go bad over time.
Word of the video: undermine
JoelTBonner & integrity
Did anyone else think Ace Ventura pedal board detective lol. Sorry, thanks for a great and informative pedal board video. I've given it a thumbs up 👍.
Very helpfull video...
I have my own board set up for my bass.
Envelope filter -> octaver -> compressor -> fuzz/overdrives -> Preamp (SFT) -> phaser -> Delay... but it's still work in progress.
Actually it's all powered by an old 9V powersupply TFT monitor... relatively cheap, but it does the job and it's very silent!
I'm currently building a dry/wet blender to put parallel to my dirt boxes... a great addition for bassists i think!
Really helpful video. Thanks John. I'm debating whether or not to make my own cables. Making cables the length you want them is appealing.
I enjoyed that. thanks John I'm feeling inspired
Didnt Know Steve-O knew so much about pedals.... Great video!
Great presentation. Good advice
This is a great video. Thanks for the tips John Bohlinger! Got some sweet new ideas now for my board.
this is actual footage from an alternate reality in which Timothy Olyphant became an aspiring musician instead of a professional actor...
Speaking about power, what he didn't mention but is quite important to know: There are two parameters which determine electrical power: Voltage (V) and current (1A = 1000mA). And there's a little confusion going on.
1st: Voltage needs to fit!! Your supply should never give you higher or less voltage than what's written on your pedal (or in the manual)! A little more (like 1V) should be fine because good pedals should be protected (see manual). But this may reduce life time and makes you lose any warranty. Also pay attention to AC or DC (there are pedals that need AC power)
2nd: Current printed on the supply unit must be higher than (at least equal to) what's on the pedal. Even if it's ten times as high, That's fine. There's no limit. If you use a daisy chain, add the current of all your pedals, and it must still be lower than your supplying output. Don't ever run a digital pedal with less current than it needs, you can seriously damage it!!
Thanks very much! One of the most informative yet. Some great suggestions... I'll be building my first board in a few days. And I don't give a crap how many undermines were used....it beats a Brit who's already had too much coffee with 6000 words to go....
Please tell me was the tuner plugged in directly from the guitar or directly to amp
Great video John. The only thing I would add regarding pedal placement is that some pedals such as loopers and delays with tap tempo are easiest to work with when you don't have to stretch too far for them, so I'd keep them near the front of the board if possible.
Are you crazy ? Delays, Loopers and especially Reverbs never go through the preamp, use the effects loop !!
Firstly, that's personal preference, plenty of people run them in front of the amp (and many great amps don't have loops). FWIW I generally use them in the loop. But secondly and more importantly, my comment was about physical placement of the pedals on the board, which has nothing to do with where they are in the signal chain. Your comment makes no sense as a reply to mine.
Martin Cliffe You're quite right that many great amps, & especially older amplifiers don't have an effects loop and if you check their spec's, you'll find that most of those amps eg Fenders, Marshalls, Ampegs etc had spring reverbs situated (which fall into the same effects genre as delays, loops etc) AFTER the Preamp (interestingly - that's the effect of an effects loop - effects going straight to the poweramp, bypassing the preamp), but stick to your dogmatic point Marty, I wouldn't wish to dissuade you of your ignorance, short leg length for reaching those rear pedals & abstract thought for lusting after those intellectual heights.
Excellent info John .
Great info and tips
The tuner is going directly to guitar or amp in terms of recommended order?
Great tips! but one very handy thing to put underneath your board is an plug box, some pedals are going to hum all te time if there going through the same power supply. You can think of de real hard distortions/tube screamers. I plug my tubescreamer on it's self in the plug box, really helped with that great distortion sound.
How many pedals can you hook up in FX loop before it degrades sound?
Pedal and signal path were shown reversed at the beginning. Most pedals it's input Right, output on Left. Corrected when pedals were actually being mounted and wired. Might confuse some, just sayin'.
Great video. Thanks John.
Great info. My pedals are blinking when they are all plugged in. If I unplug one, the blinking stops. Do you know what could be causing this?
I have a BBE Sonic Stomp, and a Dyna Comp on my pedalboard, I like to run those in front of everything, including my wah. Do you have a reason as to why you put your compressor after the wah?
I really enjoyed this video. I really feel like my rig will not have undermined integrity after watching this video XD. Seriously though, great job John. You're a really cool dude, and you're always so casual when doing videos like this, it's really enjoyable and entertaining to listen to you speak about this stuff. I personally have a Pedaltrain Nano, which I managed to fit 4 Boss/MXR-sized pedals and a mini pedal, so obviously most of these tips involving longer chains don't really apply to me, but it's still interesting watching board wirings. I personally find no problems using a wall wart (Visual Sound One Spot), but maybe that's because I have but a few pedals. Anyways, loved this video! Cheers guys!
I want this John when he does the rig rundowns. Chilled. Relaxed. And smart. He seems so fake in his interviews and I don’t like that. He seems like a cool dude and a cool player. So I know he knows what he’s talking about in those interviews.
where do you guys like to put a Treble Boost?
hi. could you tell me the measures and model of these pedalboard please? thank you
hi, which power suply do you have under the pedal board?
I like compressor after od in my board. Still learning. Great video. Thanks
What pedaltrain model is this?
Be sure to put any pedals that are sensitive to input impedance(anything you might use your volume knob to clean up) in front and before anything with a buffer. I prefer the sound of my Muff with the volume rolled back a bit but if I use any pedals in front of it, it responds like the volume is cranked and gets harsh
Wisdom
Same for my Voodoo Labs Fuzz. It has to be first.
I almost suggested a topic for a future DIY video, but generating content is your job: Do It Yourself!
Premier Guitar Hi!. I would like to know your thoughts on solder vs solder free cables. Thanks!
Me too
Great video John. I have all my cables hard wound & put together by little Fairy's with added Fairy Dust sprinkled on for good measure ;-) LOL Great point about not going cheap & trying to save cash on the cables that make your board work. Why get a 2,000.00 amp & a 2-3K guitar then add a grand worth of good quality pedals only to crap on your tone with cheap "Radio Shack" quality cables. I personally use Mogami & haven't have one crap out on me yet :-) Lava Cable makes a nice set that you can cut to your own board layout. Plus as a rule of thumb if your going to have more than 3-4 pedals throw in a Buffer pedal at the beginning or the end of your pedal chain. If you've got more than 8 pedals put a good Buffer pedal at the start and One at the end just to be safe :-) Great video.
When I first got my distortion pedal I think I put my wah in front of it and it sounded like crap (the wah) so I had to put the distortion then the wah
Is it not the resistivity of the cable that determines how much signal is lost to it?
I want to know why my fuzz face mini silicon sounds terrible with single coils 😩 it sounds like the voice in front of a fan only with humbuckers sound good
I have a question: How the output, the input, mono sounds are connected? The guitar to the pedal, to a amp and a recorder. How the input and the output can work accurate? Not to make a buzz noice either a cancelation sound
Aaron Zepeda If there's a buzz, there might also be something wrong with your power supply. Try with a battery to see if that's the case. It may also be caused by an energy saving lamp (turn off the light: Is it still buzzing?) There are many possible causes!
why do u put the compressor between the fuzz and the distortion? why not infront of the fuzz..
Noise gate first for metal?
really cool man, really ace.....nice bass wishes from liverpool, UK..........learnt a lot.........!
Nice video! Is that a DGT PRS model guitar? Sure is purdy!
Thank you for the information, this was a great video and helped me out a lot. Keep it up!
Very well-explained! Thank you so much for this. Trying to make my own pedalboard and will be using some pedals soon.
Karla Cristobal giving away my boss EQ if youre still building
Rudy Ayoub Oh, it's okay! What a wonderful thought, but I'm from the Philippines, though!
Hello, could you tell me something of what you present if I would do well to get different sounds with my harmonics and if so, which one of them would you advise me. Thanks Colegui. Luck
I would likely use a little extra audio cable to avoid proximity to power cables. If I remember correctly, when they come close try to have cables cross perpendicular as opposed to running parallel. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Nice video.
Awesome vid guys! Can i know what's the name of the small blue pitch shifter pedal on the board?
I'm still wondering which would sound better:
Overdrive pedal into a Distortion pedal or Distortion pedal into an Overdrive pedal?
I have a Fulltone Full-Drive 2 MOSFET and an MXR Super Badass Distortion and I like to use the Full-Drive as a boost pedal. Any suggestions?
Hello 5 years later lol. I would say if you wanted to experiment put the full drive first, then the badass distortion and get a clean boost pedal ie TC spark. That way the full drive can be your light overdrive, the badass your heavy and for solos hit the spark to stand out. Also the full drive on with the badass will boost the gain and make it heavier. Cheers from the future 🤘🏻
Can you guys do a how to soldering and replacing pickups?
Great video! What is the exact board you have? what are the dimentions etc?
Great video and tips. Maybe try the order and cables before mounting?
So you put fuzz before the wah, but OD and distortion after the wah? Can someone explain to me the purpose of that? I have my wah at the very front of my effects chain before everything.
I only need 3 pedals on my board. (ds-1, small clone, and mxr flange) would it be worth it to buy a power supply and the daisy chains?
With a boss tuner you could use it to daisy chain some pedals off it. I do that when I only use a couple pedals and it works fine.
+Oliver Smith you can easily daisy chain 10 Pedals if you lift your ground on the right spot (with seperating transformers)
where would i put my wireless receptor first from the amp? and my tuner would still get a single not plugging into it
why are the pedals laid out backwards?..(3:25) "Jimi put his fuzz after the wah.." and then you place it BEFORE the wah..why? also Hendrix had his wah wired so that it could be used before his fuzzface..so it made sense that he did what he did.
Just a correction, the first pedalboard shown is by Jake Snider, not Dave Knudson.
How do you cut the cables and fix them to fit?
Thanks John. You haven't made a bad video yet! Namaste.
Noise gate pedal...early or late on a board?
Great video. Very helpful, thanks.
does this pedal board go directly into the front of the amp or does some of the pedals go to an effects loop, such as the delay and reverb, or even the last in the chain, the looper?
Thomas Weikel if you use the overdrive channel on your amp in combination with modulation/reverb/delay etc. it's better to put those through the effects loop, otherwise your modulation/reverb/delay comes before your drive and that doesn't sound right. If you use the clean channel you can put every other pedal in front of the amp, just make sure any modulation/reverb/delay comes after your drive pedals.
But experiment with the order and effects loop, there are no real rules really, but for me personally this is the way to go.
Hello john, very good video for begginers, i didn't understand that you say "overdrives/dist and compressors they might sound better if run it into a power supply that offers sag"
Can anyone explain it more ?
thx!
Some power sources (like the voodoo lab pedal power mondo) have power inputs that allow the electric current to oscillate, so that it mimics a dying 9v battery. Some people like that sound, especially on fuzz and overdrive pedals. If you have any pedal that can be powered by a 9v battery, try doing that instead of plugging the pedal into an electric source. You might notice how the sound of the pedal will change once the battery doesn’t have enough juice to provide a steady amount of current
...a simple question...WHERE DO YA PLUG THE GUITAR IN???
what´s up with effects loop of the amp? why would you just pack them all in front of it?
Ok what if you used one wall supply per pedal? Would that be considered isolated and cut down on noise? I ask because I have five pedals (one is a tuner) and I only play at home so I don’t need a pedal board and I don’t need it to be portable. I just want it to sound good!
Great video!!! I bought those same soderless cables and they are horrible. They went out and some lost the tip. Anyhow, great and sound ideas. How do you feel about looper pedals to control multiple pedals with one switch?
Is there another way to get pedals to stay tightly on the pedalboard without having to stick velcro on it? It's mainly due to OCD issues and I don't really want velcro permanently on my pedals which may perhaps decreasing their selling value.
Nathan Lam I've seen many people use zipties around the pedal.
oh cool
Hi, what instrument cable is best to use to connect the pedalboard to the amplifier ?
Cables will impart certain sonic characteristics into your tone. It is often recommended to search for a cable with low capacitance (all instrument cables should have this quality, just some lower than others). Another thing I personally look for is durability. For my money I like the Dimarzio braided instrument cables do the job. Extraordinary durability and a clear sonic difference over my old cheapo cables. Musician's Friend usually has the most complete stock as far as length and color variants go.
+Justin Davis what's considered low?
Max Tor Well the Dimarzio cables I use have are 33.27 pF/ft, which I believe is slightly lower than Gearge L's, which a lot of people consider very good cables. So 33-37 pF/ft about I suppose? It's not the end-all-be-all number of a good cable, but it gives an idea of the signal pass-through. I would just avoid the cheapest of cables and possibly do a little experimenting
Justin Davis thx
I love this guy and his gear videos. He sounds like the Don Ward character from "Casino".
Great vid John,
Amazing video! For the order, you mentioned a booster in the middle and an overall volume booster at the end. What’s the difference between the two? I’m pretty new to pedals
How do you deal with effects loops or stereo rigs?
Very well explained. I have a small rubber pig I put next to my pedal board its my Oink pedal. For when I want to get really dirty.
Best video on pedalboards
How you use wah in the right from start of signal cable