Dagan, you are the COOLEST, RADDEST guitar player on TH-cam bro! Seriously, thank you for all the great videos and especially all the 80’s love! You ROCK!
Perfect timing as I'm currently assembling pedals for my first pedal board. After years of using multi fx pedals and/or modelling amps, I figured it's time to up my game and splash out on some pedals and a tube amp!
I’ve seen many videos and read many articles about pedalboard placement and they all follow the core tenets like having modulation and reverb at the end, distortion near the front etc but they all differ slightly to taste when incorporating pedals like EQ, pitch shifting, compression etc When trying to cherry pick advice concerning my specific set up, I always find contradictions So I’m very excited to see that the pedals you have in this video mirror my mirror my own choices fairly closely Rock on Dagan!!
I'd like to point out that Dagan really puts it all into these videos. He doesn't hold back, he doesn't slack off or half asses the videos. Props to him, great job. I've subscribed bc of this. Thanks for a lot of great content.
I’m a home studio guy, so it needs to sit on a place on my studio desk. I have 2 boards, a guitar board and a loop board. Makes it so much easier. I have a drop and it has been at the front of my board for 10 years, but I also split my signal with a TC Mimiq and send the left channel out to a Headrush pedal board for a stereo sound
Finally, some video about the pedal board setup that is both informative and quite objective. The proper accent makes it easier to comprehend too - I have trust issues when it comes to American content creators😂
effects loop and a noise gate changed my whole set up ... tuner - noisegate input 1 - fuzz - OD - amp input ... then noisegate output to chorus - flanger - reverb - delay - tremolo - effects loop IN then effects loop out back to noisegate
Im waiting for an EHX silencer to arrive and i will probably have a similar set up! im a little confused about it being placed before the overdrives unless the loop means it comes back around to gate them after? i'm sure i'll find it all out when it FINALLY arrives. How do you like this set up?
I’m new to the electric guitar…I’ve been playing acoustic since the ‘70’s…because girls loved it! Because I know little about effects I bought a PodGo…I’m currently learning how it works…thanks for this video Dagan! You’ve helped me understand pedal boards!
Dagan, I’m building my first pedalboard this coming weekend, and you just answered all my questions whilst making the education a lot of fun! Always a riot watching your videos
I made my own pedalboard, thing is 4 feet wide,, 1 foot tall, and 1 inch thick, it was fun buying the stuff I needed and putting it all together, end result is freaking awesome. I used pedalboard simulators to determine the size and all
Everyone has their own formulae, but in my experience I always routed delays, reverb, chorus, flangers, phasers, and other time based pedals through the FX loop, its really personal preference and the type of amp your using, so experimentation is key. I never thought about running a phaser before an OD, I'll have to give that a try.
i think experimentation is the key because i think the order also depends on the pedals themselves, i found that my octave pedal only really works well when first in the chain, next is the wah and then i have my tuner pedal, then fuzz, i use the OD and reverb in my amp so don't need to worry about that , i put boost and delay into the FX loop. That's it, simple.
This is pretty a cool and informative video but... wouldn't the beginner guitarist or bassist benefit much more from a multi-effects unit rather than separate stomp boxes? Just from a cost perspective alone, a good multi FX unit can give most, if not all those effects in one handy unit, many times at a much lower price tag. Not to mention, many modern m-fx units have good, user-friendly interfaces that allow for quick and easy changes. Plus, they usually have some good sounding tones right out of the box. If need be, the person can dive into creating or tweaking patches to their liking. This also serves to introduce new players to the in's-and-out's of how each effect works/sounds, the placement of effects and the different features and details of each effect in their chain. Nevertheless; the educational nature of this video is really great! Also, you should really try playing through more than one amp. A great sounding stereo multi-amp rig can really spice things up for your playing in new, exciting ways!
Greetings from the Northeast of America. I think the vid I'm speaking of is a bit old. Largely on your advice/ review I bought a Pathfinder 10. When showed how it got overdriven and cleaned up by turning guitar volume down. This amp does that and much more weather u drive the amp with vol or play at apt vol this inexpensive works great. I've demo's in which the player didn't seem to know how to get the best out of it. Thanks again. When I need to make another purchase I will consult you. Rock on! bye for now. P.S. works great with pedals.
One tip if you are using a tuner with a buffer - put the Drop before it. The Drop does not play well with buffers and should be getting the most direct signal possible for the best tracking. I learned this from my own experience.
I'm about to buy my first pedals. Boss DS-1, big muff, and Sabbra Cadabbra. Thinking i may need a noise compressor as well lol. All this is going into the JCM 800 classic combo amp.
Good info Dagan! BUT were you serious when you said you didn't use two amplifiers? man, you should, a stereo rig or wet/dry rig is awesome! You should hit up the boys from That Pedal Show to set you up...THAT would be a great show! Cheers!
There's is a basic right way; dirt, pitch, mod, delay, reverb, looper. The best way to think about it is take it two at a time, deciding how effect affects the one behind it. If you wanna modulate your delay, you put the modulation after. If you want a modulated sound delay, you put the delay after. When it comes to reverb, it's best after delay and closer to the end so you can reverberate the entire sound effects and all, but if you want to reverberate earlier then affect that reverb with a delay or modulation or pitch, it can work too. Just give alot thought of what each pedal does the others and you'll get it. Building right pedal board is ALOT of consideration and trial and error even if you know the basically best setup like what's explained here. It's a project that really never ends cause you'll always be changing things out if you get too engrossed in it
If a Marshall Stack was a living, breathing person, you would be it. Seriously though, im putting a pedalboard together for the first time and this video really helped
Howdy, I'm not Dagan, but AFAIK you want your noise gate directly after whatever it is that's making the noise ypu dont want, so generally the distortion. Easiest way to figure that out is to to have your setup ready to go, then turn off one pedal only at a time and you'll hear which one is the main culprit 😊
@@mikecunningham4682 Hi Mike. Thank you. Put like that, it sounds obvious and simple. Can’t believe I couldn’t work that out for myself! I’m always looking for something more complicated. Cheers.
David Gilmour had a pedal sidetable so he could twist the knobs and soundscape I assume. Ever tried a Jet Phaser into RE-20 space echo? It is like Hawkwind & Hendrix jamming together 😂
after my tuner i have my distortion first then my wah it feels better to me in that possion on my board then a mooer pitch shifter (simular to digitech whammy but smaller) and for me thats it i dont use many pedals (all with a small pedal board
Pitch shifters/drop pedals are the worst if you don't play at a high enough volume. Otherwise you will end up hearing the guitar's regular tuning, while hearing the changed one through the amp.
Excellent video and great performance and explanation! Did your tuner has a buffer built in to conserve your guitar tone? What’s your thoughts about using a buffer at beginning and at another at the end of the pedal signal chain? Thanks
But then you are limited when playing over the loop, you can't add any effects without it effecting the entire loop, unless that is what you want, but then it will quickly all become a mess if you start layering. It's better to just have the loop at the end and just use the effects you want when recording the loop
Help me someone! I bought a Maestro Invader Distortion Pedal and I cannot get it to work. The demo I saw on Peach Guitars warned it might be a bit harsh - but blimming heck, it's like the Mother Ship colliding with a Death Star whenever I try to play it. The only way it seems to work for me is when I crank it up - then I get noise complaints - from a woman in Belgium. Help! How do I make this pedal work? How do you set/adjust the pot inside the pedal?
Thanks Dagan, understood. Lads, i have a Boss soace echo 202 which I want to use the preamp feature continuously to get the benefit of that old tape eche machine. Where in yhe chain would you place it if its a preamp and a time effect? Preamp always in, echo as and when.
Try and put your wah pedals in a place where your foot can easily reach and it's not going to hit another pedal. Having a wah above the tuner is going to be very inconvenient to access.
Been watching your vids for years, brother, and I've never been disappointed. Good to see you are still the man, mate. Just noticed your finesse has come a long way. Nice. Anyhoo. Cheers from the land Downundah. 🍻 \m/ 0_o \m/
Thanks for the tips, I have a line 6 amp with a pedalboard, I just want to add a distortion pedal to the setup, should it be in front or at the outlet of the board?
It really depends on what you want the result to be like. Roughly you can divide „distortion“ pedals into three categories: Boost, Overdrive, and Fuzz. Most pedals also have a specific tone shaping function, sometimes as a frequency curve changer or a treble, mid, bass booster. So you‘ll probably want to have that in the front of your signal chain, because that‘s a quite significant tone changer. But if you just want to boost your signal (e.g. for soloing) you can put it almost anywhere before the time based effects (like delay). Always keep in mind what a pedal does to the overall frequency profile. Once a frequency band is gone, it‘s gone. One reason why you‘ll have to experiment, is because there are so many different guitars, pickup configurations and so many different music styles you may want to play with them. If you want to „have it all“ you may want to consider a modeler instead of a pedal board, as it may give you much more flexibility at a much lower price, too. With a modeler you can reconfigure your „pedal board“ with the push of a button and enjoy the characteristics of different amps, cabinets and speaker responses at the same time. And you can accommodate different guitars too, without having to have individual pedal boards or specific settings.
The crybaby has no buffer so it should go before the tuner unless you have a true bypass tuner. That is why it works after a fuzz face too. The best way to explain it is the crybaby can see your pickups. So can a fuzz face.
Man they should have gone forward in time to tailor make a pedal chain video just for you Christine. How heavy are you that the sun and planets revolve around you? God forbid you do more research than one video.
Dagan, you are the COOLEST, RADDEST guitar player on TH-cam bro! Seriously, thank you for all the great videos and especially all the 80’s love! You ROCK!
This comment must mean a lot coming from an actual les paul
This is the best video I have seen so far for a pedal board set up. Thank you. All of your videos do not disappoint.
This is a very serious video guys, Dagan has his shirt tucked in.
Perfect timing as I'm currently assembling pedals for my first pedal board. After years of using multi fx pedals and/or modelling amps, I figured it's time to up my game and splash out on some pedals and a tube amp!
I’ve seen many videos and read many articles about pedalboard placement and they all follow the core tenets like having modulation and reverb at the end, distortion near the front etc but they all differ slightly to taste when incorporating pedals like EQ, pitch shifting, compression etc
When trying to cherry pick advice concerning my specific set up, I always find contradictions So I’m very excited to see that the pedals you have in this video mirror my mirror my own choices fairly closely
Rock on Dagan!!
I'd like to point out that Dagan really puts it all into these videos. He doesn't hold back, he doesn't slack off or half asses the videos. Props to him, great job. I've subscribed bc of this. Thanks for a lot of great content.
When I hear some of the small pedals go in and out, I can hear who used them in my head. That is so cool.
I’m a home studio guy, so it needs to sit on a place on my studio desk. I have 2 boards, a guitar board and a loop board. Makes it so much easier. I have a drop and it has been at the front of my board for 10 years, but I also split my signal with a TC Mimiq and send the left channel out to a Headrush pedal board for a stereo sound
Finally, some video about the pedal board setup that is both informative and quite objective. The proper accent makes it easier to comprehend too - I have trust issues when it comes to American content creators😂
effects loop and a noise gate changed my whole set up ... tuner - noisegate input 1 - fuzz - OD - amp input ... then noisegate output to chorus - flanger - reverb - delay - tremolo - effects loop IN then effects loop out back to noisegate
Im waiting for an EHX silencer to arrive and i will probably have a similar set up! im a little confused about it being placed before the overdrives unless the loop means it comes back around to gate them after? i'm sure i'll find it all out when it FINALLY arrives. How do you like this set up?
I’m actually very surprised how good that 1987 pedal sounds. I can’t stand Steel Panther in anyway but. That pedal sounds great. May have to get one.
I’m new to the electric guitar…I’ve been playing acoustic since the ‘70’s…because girls loved it! Because I know little about effects I bought a PodGo…I’m currently learning how it works…thanks for this video Dagan! You’ve helped me understand pedal boards!
Thanks! 🤘 The PodGo is an awesome bit of kit
Pedalboards are awesome! I have one, but I main a Line 6 HX Effects. Does all I need it to do. One day I'll incorporate it into the pedalboard
Dagan, I’m building my first pedalboard this coming weekend, and you just answered all my questions whilst making the education a lot of fun! Always a riot watching your videos
A msg from a guitar player to all of yall. BUY A POWER SUPLY.
Ok. getting tired unplugging those 9 volts!
I made my own pedalboard, thing is 4 feet wide,, 1 foot tall, and 1 inch thick, it was fun buying the stuff I needed and putting it all together, end result is freaking awesome. I used pedalboard simulators to determine the size and all
I love this channel, if I ever go to the UK I’m bringing something back from you guys. Super informative and fun channel.
That was an awesome video, I learned so much and can’t wait to start building my own guitar pedalboard!! Thanks
Everyone has their own formulae, but in my experience I always routed delays, reverb, chorus, flangers, phasers, and other time based pedals through the FX loop, its really personal preference and the type of amp your using, so experimentation is key. I never thought about running a phaser before an OD, I'll have to give that a try.
Sounds like a uni-vibe. Give it a go. Sounds good
@@danielalegria665 Yeah, it kinda does don't it? I never really thought about it that way before! Thanks friends.
as long as it sound good then go for it! great video, very useful❤ cheers !
Dagan you ROCK! Have a great Christmas and I hope we see you at NAMM 2024! Greetings from Hollywood California.
this is actually helpful cuz i own 5 pedals…. and dunno where to start xD… Cheers Dagan from PH
🙌🤘
I like how you resolved into a major pentatonic. Nice playing. I’ll try to emulate.
I really appreciate this video. Before watching this, I had no clue about any of this stuff!
i think experimentation is the key because i think the order also depends on the pedals themselves, i found that my octave pedal only really works well when first in the chain, next is the wah and then i have my tuner pedal, then fuzz, i use the OD and reverb in my amp so don't need to worry about that , i put boost and delay into the FX loop. That's it, simple.
sneaky purple rain when the chorus pedal ;)
This is pretty a cool and informative video but... wouldn't the beginner guitarist or bassist benefit much more from a multi-effects unit rather than separate stomp boxes? Just from a cost perspective alone, a good multi FX unit can give most, if not all those effects in one handy unit, many times at a much lower price tag.
Not to mention, many modern m-fx units have good, user-friendly interfaces that allow for quick and easy changes. Plus, they usually have some good sounding tones right out of the box. If need be, the person can dive into creating or tweaking patches to their liking. This also serves to introduce new players to the in's-and-out's of how each effect works/sounds, the placement of effects and the different features and details of each effect in their chain.
Nevertheless; the educational nature of this video is really great! Also, you should really try playing through more than one amp. A great sounding stereo multi-amp rig can really spice things up for your playing in new, exciting ways!
Greetings from the Northeast of America. I think the vid I'm speaking of is a bit old. Largely on your advice/ review I bought a Pathfinder 10. When showed how it got overdriven and cleaned up by turning guitar volume down. This amp does that and much more weather u drive the amp with vol or play at apt vol this inexpensive works great. I've demo's in which the player didn't seem to know how to get the best out of it. Thanks again. When I need to make another purchase I will consult you. Rock on! bye for now. P.S. works great with pedals.
One tip if you are using a tuner with a buffer - put the Drop before it. The Drop does not play well with buffers and should be getting the most direct signal possible for the best tracking. I learned this from my own experience.
Exactly what I was looking for.Thanks very much.😊
Probably the best sub I've got. Dagan is simply the best.
I'm about to buy my first pedals. Boss DS-1, big muff, and Sabbra Cadabbra. Thinking i may need a noise compressor as well lol. All this is going into the JCM 800 classic combo amp.
Good info Dagan! BUT were you serious when you said you didn't use two amplifiers? man, you should, a stereo rig or wet/dry rig is awesome! You should hit up the boys from That Pedal Show to set you up...THAT would be a great show! Cheers!
Dagen is an absolute legend ..... 🙂
There's is a basic right way; dirt, pitch, mod, delay, reverb, looper. The best way to think about it is take it two at a time, deciding how effect affects the one behind it. If you wanna modulate your delay, you put the modulation after. If you want a modulated sound delay, you put the delay after. When it comes to reverb, it's best after delay and closer to the end so you can reverberate the entire sound effects and all, but if you want to reverberate earlier then affect that reverb with a delay or modulation or pitch, it can work too. Just give alot thought of what each pedal does the others and you'll get it. Building right pedal board is ALOT of consideration and trial and error even if you know the basically best setup like what's explained here. It's a project that really never ends cause you'll always be changing things out if you get too engrossed in it
Great video. I wish you'd have mentioned which amplifier you're using in addition to the pedals.
Noise Gate would have been a nice addition.
If a Marshall Stack was a living, breathing person, you would be it.
Seriously though, im putting a pedalboard together for the first time and this video really helped
Bro, killer tone on that intro!!
damn guys as it seems you're reading my mind! i was looking for that topic yesterday... xD
Hey Dagan, great, informative video. But where is the optimum position for a noise suppressor pedal, e.g. Boss NS 2?
Howdy, I'm not Dagan, but AFAIK you want your noise gate directly after whatever it is that's making the noise ypu dont want, so generally the distortion.
Easiest way to figure that out is to to have your setup ready to go, then turn off one pedal only at a time and you'll hear which one is the main culprit 😊
@@mikecunningham4682 Hi Mike. Thank you. Put like that, it sounds obvious and simple. Can’t believe I couldn’t work that out for myself! I’m always looking for something more complicated. Cheers.
David Gilmour had a pedal sidetable so he could twist the knobs and soundscape I assume.
Ever tried a Jet Phaser into RE-20 space echo? It is like Hawkwind & Hendrix jamming together 😂
I love this channel's videos!❤
after my tuner i have my distortion first then my wah it feels better to me in that possion on my board then a mooer pitch shifter (simular to digitech whammy but smaller) and for me thats it i dont use many pedals (all with a small pedal board
Where do eq pedals go in the signal chain? Right after the tuner?
Pitch shifters/drop pedals are the worst if you don't play at a high enough volume. Otherwise you will end up hearing the guitar's regular tuning, while hearing the changed one through the amp.
Then just play loud enough🧐
You should record a rock album and become a rockstar your a good musician. You work really hard dude.
Boost after distortion - increase volume - boost before distortion - increase gain
Excellent video and great performance and explanation!
Did your tuner has a buffer built in to conserve your guitar tone?
What’s your thoughts about using a buffer at beginning and at another at the end of the pedal signal chain? Thanks
That big muff fuzz tone sounds amazing I have a big muff myself but it sounds nothing like that on a clean channel how do u get that sound
So let's say i have more than 10 pedals to connect, do i buy two power supply boxes or how does that work?
Thank you rock and roll Russell Brand!
21:53 what is this riff?!?? I can’t seem to quite replicate it by watching, I’d love to learn it!!
Could also put the loop first, that way, you can loop a riff and adjust the pedals without playing.
But then you are limited when playing over the loop, you can't add any effects without it effecting the entire loop, unless that is what you want, but then it will quickly all become a mess if you start layering. It's better to just have the loop at the end and just use the effects you want when recording the loop
Help me someone! I bought a Maestro Invader Distortion Pedal and I cannot get it to work. The demo I saw on Peach Guitars warned it might be a bit harsh - but blimming heck, it's like the Mother Ship colliding with a Death Star whenever I try to play it. The only way it seems to work for me is when I crank it up - then I get noise complaints - from a woman in Belgium. Help! How do I make this pedal work? How do you set/adjust the pot inside the pedal?
i have chorus distortion and vibrato pedals what order would they most likely go in?
where would a noise gate/humbug go?
Thanks Dagan, understood. Lads, i have a Boss soace echo 202 which I want to use the preamp feature continuously to get the benefit of that old tape eche machine. Where in yhe chain would you place it if its a preamp and a time effect? Preamp always in, echo as and when.
If Dagan just played for 28 minutes, it would not be a bad thing.
Try and put your wah pedals in a place where your foot can easily reach and it's not going to hit another pedal. Having a wah above the tuner is going to be very inconvenient to access.
if i did overdrive id put it after the distortion to add a little boost to the sound or maybe a solo to it but thats just me :)
Any chance you could add noise gate and equaliser pedals to this demo?
Been watching your vids for years, brother, and I've never been disappointed. Good to see you are still the man, mate. Just noticed your finesse has come a long way. Nice.
Anyhoo. Cheers from the land Downundah. 🍻 \m/ 0_o \m/
Where should a noise gate go?
Thank you Russell Brand of guitar 🗣️
What if I don't play an instrument, should I still get one?
Really enojyed this!
Where would you add a noise killer or reducer?
Can I use this playing saxophone effect board
What if your looper is your tuner?? I have a Lekato
Good video, makes sense..
Hey guys, how can I avoid the volume boost when I plug my phaser in with a bug muff 😅?
Thanks for the tips, I have a line 6 amp with a pedalboard, I just want to add a distortion pedal to the setup, should it be in front or at the outlet of the board?
It really depends on what you want the result to be like. Roughly you can divide „distortion“ pedals into three categories: Boost, Overdrive, and Fuzz. Most pedals also have a specific tone shaping function, sometimes as a frequency curve changer or a treble, mid, bass booster. So you‘ll probably want to have that in the front of your signal chain, because that‘s a quite significant tone changer. But if you just want to boost your signal (e.g. for soloing) you can put it almost anywhere before the time based effects (like delay). Always keep in mind what a pedal does to the overall frequency profile. Once a frequency band is gone, it‘s gone.
One reason why you‘ll have to experiment, is because there are so many different guitars, pickup configurations and so many different music styles you may want to play with them. If you want to „have it all“ you may want to consider a modeler instead of a pedal board, as it may give you much more flexibility at a much lower price, too. With a modeler you can reconfigure your „pedal board“ with the push of a button and enjoy the characteristics of different amps, cabinets and speaker responses at the same time. And you can accommodate different guitars too, without having to have individual pedal boards or specific settings.
Got to get a 1987 as it’s the year I started playing guitar! 😂
I didna fender mod shop dudes got my guitar
But one of myhumbuckers wasnt blue
Where would a 10band eq go in the train ?
They make these little patches that are cordless 😊 you’re welcome
please can you help me build an effect and i will buy it
Wishign the best - Thank you - !
Hey, I want to buy a Gibson V, any, but here in germany not possible with monthly payments.thomman,amazon,etc music store..no way..Any ideea?
Did I miss something? Where is the treble booster?
I’m relatively new to pedals and don’t have many, thinking of selling my landlord od for an sd1, thoughts?
The SD-1 one of my favourite overdrive pedals! My first overdrive pedal and I still use it loads today. Highly recommend 🤘
My first pedal was an SD-1 and it's never been off my board in the 27 years since I bought it.
@@PMTVUK awesome, thanks!
@@markhopkins318Must be a winner then
Every other video I've seen says dist and OD before mod 😮
19:47 Grabs the guitar...lol
Russel brands got some chops, and they ain't pork chops bra
What song is that at 10:55??
Purple Rain
Such good information AGAIN from a person I would never get along with. Dag.
He’s fine in small doses… 😂 Nah, we love Dagan!
For me having a pedal board results in me tweeking forever and playing less
Dude, I like you and your vibe! I'd love to jam with ya!
The crybaby has no buffer so it should go before the tuner unless you have a true bypass tuner. That is why it works after a fuzz face too. The best way to explain it is the crybaby can see your pickups. So can a fuzz face.
If you get a Morley or Ibanez demon wah those are meant to go in the middle and have buffers.
"Chunah"? Dat some kinda sammitch?🤣🤣🤣
EQ's cant get no love??
were is the EQ and the noise suppression?? this is no help to me omg
Man they should have gone forward in time to tailor make a pedal chain video just for you Christine. How heavy are you that the sun and planets revolve around you? God forbid you do more research than one video.
The hell's a "chuner"???🤨🤔
Shouldn't a beginner mess around with a multi-fx unit first before going down this rabbit hole?
thomman is a catastrophe....etc
Wtf... is not more easy a multi effect board?
Some people (like me) prefer using stomp boxes so we can switch things out when we fancy a change! 🤘
Do you think it might be time to drop the Russell Brand look? lol
Heavier pedals first.. Into lower gain pedals... Into modulation pedals...