SINGLE video in whole youtube presenting signs of rotor damage to indicate change. All other channels are ... "Just change them" or ... "if they don't look too bad, don't change them". THank you!
I had 2 different shops telling me in the last year and a half tell me first, my back brakes need replaced, and the second shop telling me no my fronts need replaced. I just recently checked myself( im lazy) and neither need to be replaced. I'll do the work from now on. Why do shops rip people off?
Because businesses exist for one reason and one reason only: to make money. this type of stuff isn’t exclusive to auto shops, it’s just most people don’t know much about the mechanical side of their cars so it’s easier for them to spew bullshit.
Oh you’ll know when you need to you’ll hear a squeak from the pads wearing down the brake rotors will begin to make a loud rubbing metal noise not so much of a squeak more of a loud muffled hard noise
My 'mechanical' minded friend took a look at my car and said I didn't need my brakes replaced, they are 'fine'; just some surface rust. I don't know much about cars; this is my first one so I'm just learning everything by watching videos or reading forums. Before even watching this video I just felt that the fact the rotors had a lip on them meant that either something was wrong or the rotors were worn. Now I know for sure. Time to spend 2 hours trying to crack 12 year rusted on bolts!
Thabk for your video. Im trying to learn to replace my sqeeky and now grinding noise and feeling on my rear brakes on my 2011 silverado LT 1500 5.3liter. I now understand what u are saying. Im still doing more research on the subject.
if you slam on your brakes every time you brake then maybe replace brake pads at 20,000 miles. brake pads should last A LOT longer than that. i got 85,000+ on mine. Mainly highway driving helps that too
Our 2017 Mazda CX-9 still has all of the original brake parts at 68K miles. I inspected the pads and rotors by removing the calipers. Surprisingly, it still has about half of the pads left, and the rotors look good too. I don't know if I've ever had a vehicle go this long on the original brake parts without them needing to be replaced...
I bought a Toyota’s Avalon 2002 and now still drive like new due to only 84K mikes!’I don’t drive it when rain and snow days and it’s brakes are still from original parts!’
thank you for sharing, my car just broke 150k and the previous owner said they just replaced the brakes ad rotors before I bought it and it seems they were honest.
I did an emergency from Vermont to Arizona and know I had something's to do to fix my ride up a bit even before the trip. I was gonna work a bit to fix the car but found out I have to fix the car in order to work and the rear brakes were priority number one. I'm in denial but I was hoping the shaking I seemed to have developed during the trip was uneven stud loss on my tires. Figured I could get new tires and alignment when the time was right. Got some new pads but looking at my poor system it looks like the whole thing might have to go 😢. Learned a lil bit from this vid tho, thank ya 🙏
Loved your explanation. I purchased a brand new Honda Civic 2016. It now six and half years. The brakes still brake good, I am a careful driver. That is I don't hard brake all the time. It's over 100000 KMs. The service people tell me it's time to change the brake pads. I do not have any wobbling in the stearing. Do I have to change the rotors too?
Would be interesting to know more about rotor quality. In the Canadian rustbelt where I live, the rear disks on a 2010 Ford Fusion that I used to own would develop rusty scale on the piston side (similar to what you displayed in the video). Only thing is that I typically was driving it about 10,000 miles/year, and I was lucky to get 2 years out of a set of rotors. I tried using Ford OEM parts, ATE coated rotors, chain store "no name" brands, all with fairly similar results. Even replacing the calipers and pins at about 40,000 miles made no difference. Meanwhile, I also have a 2014 Santa Fe where the OE brake parts (rotors and pads) lasted close to 60,000 miles before getting replaced. The rotors still looked nice and clean, with little grooving or corrosion. How much of a factor do details like the backing/splash plate make? Good video otherwise.
As the old saying goes, you pay for what you get! OEM is just marked up and isn't always better! I have used Raybestos coated rotors with good luck. I'm in Ontario.
Did it ever have a give a sound when driving forward bec. I too stay on a gravel road and I just got home and it started making a weird sound while driving forward idk why I though maybe it’s the break pads and roter snd the stone got between it or something
Rotors are made of iron. Iron rust, this is very normal to find rust on a brake rotor. Rust also expand when rusting, and between the slight wear of the rotor and the rust on the edge of the rotor, you will end up with a lip. Your rotor doesn't show any grooves on its surface. This rotor can still be used for many more miles.
Excellent demonstration about common issues with rotors . Thanks for making very informative video, on the side note introduction could be edited to make video little shorter.
When he said 20,000 - 30,000 miles, do i have to convert to kilometer? Because the higher the miles counted, the bigger differences when counted in kilometer.
That is a very damaged rotor, can’t believe you were driving with it. Yes, a lip at the edge of the rotor is an indicator that the rotor is wearing out but what you didn’t mention is many rotors have a marking on the outer hub section that specifies the minimum thickness in millimeters. This can be accurately measured with $15 digital caliper. If the rotors are worn beyond the minimum thickness, they are not safe as they won’t dissipate heat effectively and will gradually become warped and should be replaced.
Disappointed. Was hoping you were going to discuss the rotor thickness limits with respect to resurfacing. If a new rotor starts at 1" thick and you lose 0.040" in 45K miles, AND if the discard thickness is 0.900", then you've got 0.060" to play with for resurfacing and future wear. I will grant you that New England's use of deicing chemicals takes a toll on ferrous metals but I've found that the mounting pins that the pads slide on cause more issues. My wife's Camry had one pad frozen in place such that both pads were not equally "squeezing" the rotor - the frozen pad wound up not being parallel with the surface of the rotor and ultimately carved a shallow groove in the rotor.
@@AutoEnthusiast I got about 100k miles on my 15 civic si, and my mechanic said I needed my rotors replaced. Thought I got duped but after this video, seems like it was due. I had never replaced em
My car was making a sound like something was flipping when I would attempt to brake. Now it’s making a dragging sound when I attempt to brake. Should I replace both brake pads and rotors? Just front brake pads? Or all three; front back brake pads and rotors?
Yeah I just did today had the same issue happen to me 2 days ago got new rodor and break pads for my front car that noice was loud and embarrassing lol
You'll need to replace your pads. if you've been driving on bad pads and have gotten that grinding sound a lot, check the surface of your rotors, see if they're scratched from the metal on metal contact. If they feel and appear scratched you'll want to get new rotors. don't touch the rotors right after driving because they will be hot.
Yeah I was going to say that's a buildup of salt would be if you were parking outside doesn't take much if the snow is packed you have salt in it and you park into it
Quick question for you I just want to confirm. I need to change break pads and Mopar has them for $520 is this normal? I feel like it’s expensive. Now mind you this is a 392 scat pack challenger with a Brembo break system.
I just payed $590 for a Kia but I do live in Cali but I felt like I paid to much I got other quotes from other shops after they said most it could of been $450 for my Kia model but big brand told me there break pads are from Kia shop but at the end I could of saved 140 or so if I would of just called for quotes 😢
Its so funny these youtubers are all saying you need to replace things so often. 15 to 20 k miles? why not every 100 or 150 miles? My car still have the original brakes everything now it has 58 k.... Do these youtubers get extra payments from car part manufacturers?
My brakes have been squeaking often and I took it in to get checked and they told me they are fine and it was just dirt making the squeaking sound. I feel like he was lying
@@razielsenketsu Just saying, if you took it to a business and they told you that you don't need brakes, you likely wouldn't need them then because i'm sure they'd make more money from you replacing them. Sounds like they were infact not trying to rip you off.
@@warriormanmaxx8991 yeah why so serious it was just a question I thought someone was running from the police but undoubtedly we got this Maxx guy who ain't max at anything and wants to be a prick if you don't want negative vibes don't come at me with em cause im toxic asf I enjoy hatin ass people like u
"Pads are good for 15 to 25k miles"... Me with 120k miles now looking at changing pads... Uh oh lol. I had a shop look at them at 80k, and they said they were at "25% life left", guess I'll find out how true that is. My commute was 75 miles each way for years, so it's almost entirely highway miles.
Unbelievable how rusty these rotors are at 43k miles! And they are OEM rotors? OEM parts are good for correct specs, but don't expect them to be of good quality.
Those are the worst looking factory rotors I’ve ever seen. I’ll never buy Subaru rotors after this video especially with warranties and better prices available from aftermarket.
@@AutoEnthusiastRIP to your face breaking lol. I drive mostly highway as I work from home so I don't break much. Runs perfectly. Rotors are still perfect too. Zoom zoom.
SINGLE video in whole youtube presenting signs of rotor damage to indicate change.
All other channels are ... "Just change them" or ... "if they don't look too bad, don't change them".
THank you!
Actually you should look at the minimum thickness number written on the rotor somewhere.
I had 2 different shops telling me in the last year and a half tell me first, my back brakes need replaced, and the second shop telling me no my fronts need replaced. I just recently checked myself( im lazy) and neither need to be replaced. I'll do the work from now on. Why do shops rip people off?
Because businesses exist for one reason and one reason only: to make money. this type of stuff isn’t exclusive to auto shops, it’s just most people don’t know much about the mechanical side of their cars so it’s easier for them to spew bullshit.
Oh you’ll know when you need to you’ll hear a squeak from the pads wearing down the brake rotors will begin to make a loud rubbing metal noise not so much of a squeak more of a loud muffled hard noise
Well that's easy to support their cocaine habits
So scary and sad that people will do such thing 😩
@@chosen3258 you might just help me solve my problem I believe I need pads
My 'mechanical' minded friend took a look at my car and said I didn't need my brakes replaced, they are 'fine'; just some surface rust. I don't know much about cars; this is my first one so I'm just learning everything by watching videos or reading forums.
Before even watching this video I just felt that the fact the rotors had a lip on them meant that either something was wrong or the rotors were worn.
Now I know for sure. Time to spend 2 hours trying to crack 12 year rusted on bolts!
The dealership replaced my front rotors and pads and I can immediately tell the difference. Braking is quicker and a lot smoother.
Thank you. This backs up what the last mechanic told me. Want to have honest people doing good work
Glad to help
You answered my question - how can I tell I need to change the rotors? Now I know. Very well presented sir, thank you.
Wow this was actually the perfect video i needed to see lately. Thank you so much!
Glad it was helpful!
Thabk for your video. Im trying to learn to replace my sqeeky and now grinding noise and feeling on my rear brakes on my 2011 silverado LT 1500 5.3liter. I now understand what u are saying. Im still doing more research on the subject.
Clear description of rotor and pads inspection and when to replace them. Thanks
Sure thing!
if you slam on your brakes every time you brake then maybe replace brake pads at 20,000 miles. brake pads should last A LOT longer than that. i got 85,000+ on mine. Mainly highway driving helps that too
Our 2017 Mazda CX-9 still has all of the original brake parts at 68K miles. I inspected the pads and rotors by removing the calipers. Surprisingly, it still has about half of the pads left, and the rotors look good too. I don't know if I've ever had a vehicle go this long on the original brake parts without them needing to be replaced...
Maybe the pixies changed them in the night?
Rotors have a minimum width. You need to measure them with a caliper. Take into account any lipping!
my camry OE pads are at 121K miles. down to 2mm now. 15 to 25 K for pads is ridiculous.
I bought a Toyota’s Avalon 2002 and now still drive like new due to only 84K mikes!’I don’t drive it when rain and snow days and it’s brakes are still from original parts!’
Skip to 7:40 if you’re here for rotors
blessed. thank you
thank you for sharing, my car just broke 150k and the previous owner said they just replaced the brakes ad rotors before I bought it and it seems they were honest.
I did an emergency from Vermont to Arizona and know I had something's to do to fix my ride up a bit even before the trip. I was gonna work a bit to fix the car but found out I have to fix the car in order to work and the rear brakes were priority number one.
I'm in denial but I was hoping the shaking I seemed to have developed during the trip was uneven stud loss on my tires. Figured I could get new tires and alignment when the time was right. Got some new pads but looking at my poor system it looks like the whole thing might have to go 😢. Learned a lil bit from this vid tho, thank ya 🙏
Did the same trip
Oof, how was it?
100k miles on my car brake pads and rotors still mint Toyota for ya
Loved your explanation. I purchased a brand new Honda Civic 2016. It now six and half years. The brakes still brake good, I am a careful driver. That is I don't hard brake all the time. It's over 100000 KMs. The service people tell me it's time to change the brake pads. I do not have any wobbling in the stearing. Do I have to change the rotors too?
Braking soft is even worse for your rotor
You should have them inspected and lubed.
Would be interesting to know more about rotor quality. In the Canadian rustbelt where I live, the rear disks on a 2010 Ford Fusion that I used to own would develop rusty scale on the piston side (similar to what you displayed in the video). Only thing is that I typically was driving it about 10,000 miles/year, and I was lucky to get 2 years out of a set of rotors. I tried using Ford OEM parts, ATE coated rotors, chain store "no name" brands, all with fairly similar results. Even replacing the calipers and pins at about 40,000 miles made no difference.
Meanwhile, I also have a 2014 Santa Fe where the OE brake parts (rotors and pads) lasted close to 60,000 miles before getting replaced. The rotors still looked nice and clean, with little grooving or corrosion. How much of a factor do details like the backing/splash plate make?
Good video otherwise.
Your car reads in miles? Nice advertisement dick.
As the old saying goes, you pay for what you get! OEM is just marked up and isn't always better! I have used Raybestos coated rotors with good luck. I'm in Ontario.
This is easily the best video describing in depth but easy to understand brake wear
timely video for me. My home is on a gravel road and occasionally I pick up gravel between the pad and rotor. Any advice on how to remove gravel?
Did it ever have a give a sound when driving forward bec. I too stay on a gravel road and I just got home and it started making a weird sound while driving forward idk why I though maybe it’s the break pads and roter snd the stone got between it or something
Rotors are made of iron. Iron rust, this is very normal to find rust on a brake rotor. Rust also expand when rusting, and between the slight wear of the rotor and the rust on the edge of the rotor, you will end up with a lip. Your rotor doesn't show any grooves on its surface. This rotor can still be used for many more miles.
Actual video starts from 03:40, if you're looking for 'when to change car brake pads'.
My front pads are like the first pad shown....still got a bit of time to replace. 👍
Very very very long intro so bad man
Excellent demonstration about common issues with rotors . Thanks for making very informative video, on the side note introduction could be edited to make video little shorter.
No sh!t!! I almost fell asleep twice
You're awesome man! Thanks for the great videos!
I love your super quick and subtle flex with your car year make and model lol Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching! And not sure what you be but sure lol
Thx bro… I just ordered some new rotors for my Camaro SS just wanted to make sure I wasn’t changing them too early. U earned a sub
Where did you get your rotors from?
Really great video, helpful and precise but the sound is low it's kinda annoying 😅
1. Raise volume.
2. Get a new laptop or phone.
Sounds like u need a ear cleaning 😂
When he said 20,000 - 30,000 miles, do i have to convert to kilometer? Because the higher the miles counted, the bigger differences when counted in kilometer.
Mileage means nothing, what if it's all highway with little braking.
I''m still on originals at 160K km.
Some people must ride the brakes.
I'm on the originals at 230k 😅✌️ oups ?
Beat me my rears are at 133k.😅
That is a very damaged rotor, can’t believe you were driving with it.
Yes, a lip at the edge of the rotor is an indicator that the rotor is wearing out but what you didn’t mention is many rotors have a marking on the outer hub section that specifies the minimum thickness in millimeters. This can be accurately measured with $15 digital caliper. If the rotors are worn beyond the minimum thickness, they are not safe as they won’t dissipate heat effectively and will gradually become warped and should be replaced.
Disappointed. Was hoping you were going to discuss the rotor thickness limits with respect to resurfacing.
If a new rotor starts at 1" thick and you lose 0.040" in 45K miles, AND if the discard thickness is 0.900", then you've got 0.060" to play with for resurfacing and future wear. I will grant you that New England's use of deicing chemicals takes a toll on ferrous metals but I've found that the mounting pins that the pads slide on cause more issues. My wife's Camry had one pad frozen in place such that both pads were not equally "squeezing" the rotor - the frozen pad wound up not being parallel with the surface of the rotor and ultimately carved a shallow groove in the rotor.
Rotors have gotten cheap enough that in a 5-6 year span it will always be cheaper to replace them unless you can resurface them yourself.
@@AutoEnthusiast Perhaps. Unless you're buying OEM Toyota rotors ....
@@AutoEnthusiast I got about 100k miles on my 15 civic si, and my mechanic said I needed my rotors replaced. Thought I got duped but after this video, seems like it was due. I had never replaced em
@@AutoEnthusiast Can I just buy cheap rotors?
Very well explained. Good job
You need to change brake pads when you have left 2-3 mm of material.
My car was making a sound like something was flipping when I would attempt to brake. Now it’s making a dragging sound when I attempt to brake. Should I replace both brake pads and rotors? Just front brake pads? Or all three; front back brake pads and rotors?
Yeah I just did today had the same issue happen to me 2 days ago got new rodor and break pads for my front car that noice was loud and embarrassing lol
You'll need to replace your pads. if you've been driving on bad pads and have gotten that grinding sound a lot, check the surface of your rotors, see if they're scratched from the metal on metal contact. If they feel and appear scratched you'll want to get new rotors. don't touch the rotors right after driving because they will be hot.
Really good info and well explained 👍👍👍👍🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
I have an '18 Outback. How long after they start squeaking do I have? Mine started squeaking a month ago. 😢
Change them asap!
This was great. Thank you
Thanks for this Video ❤
You're welcome
Very helpful thanks.
Thanks for the info bro
Any idea why my rotor on the passenger side of my 19 wrx looks rusted but the driver side is fine?
Maybe it's because the passenger side is near the curb (where rainwater flows).
Yeah I was going to say that's a buildup of salt would be if you were parking outside doesn't take much if the snow is packed you have salt in it and you park into it
Mine has deep grooves in it why is that they were brand new with new pads now they have grooves
what if my car has squeaks like 3 or 4 times i haven’t heard it again i just changed mine 3000 miles ago u think i’m over reacting
Quick question for you I just want to confirm. I need to change break pads and Mopar has them for $520 is this normal? I feel like it’s expensive. Now mind you this is a 392 scat pack challenger with a Brembo break system.
I just payed $590 for a Kia but I do live in Cali but I felt like I paid to much I got other quotes from other shops after they said most it could of been $450 for my Kia model but big brand told me there break pads are from Kia shop but at the end I could of saved 140 or so if I would of just called for quotes 😢
Thank you so much! 😁
Its so funny these youtubers are all saying you need to replace things so often. 15 to 20 k miles? why not every 100 or 150 miles? My car still have the original brakes everything now it has 58 k.... Do these youtubers get extra payments from car part manufacturers?
Used to turn drum/rotors for $6 apiece.
Thanks alot brother 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
My car has 71,000 miles on it and it still has the original pads and rotors. A light just came on to change the pads on the dash.
Neat wonder what kind of sensor let's you know that
@@666dynomax probably the brake pad sensor 😮 lol abs maybe
@@pyrocrew17 ha. Yes I've seen a few videos with expensive cars having sensors. Imagine how foolish that is
@@666dynomax imagine what kind of sensor lets you know to change the pads 🤪 lol I’m messing with ya
@@pyrocrew17 - ohhhhhh ... you are SO funny !! ( Not! )
Great video! Thanx
Dirt small sand particles, driving on dirt roads make disc brakes make noise. causes scaring on disc, no big deal . It does add to wear.
My brakes have been squeaking often and I took it in to get checked and they told me they are fine and it was just dirt making the squeaking sound. I feel like he was lying
My rotor defines needs to be replaced they have 80,000 miles on them
@@razielsenketsu Just saying, if you took it to a business and they told you that you don't need brakes, you likely wouldn't need them then because i'm sure they'd make more money from you replacing them. Sounds like they were infact not trying to rip you off.
If you are watching this video it’s time to change your brake pads and rotors
Debris may have caused the grooving
Why is there so many sirens in the background ?
Sounds like someone running
Living in a city lol
Lol keep doing yo thang bro i like the videos it helps when I need to replace something on my whip
@Concept - 1. you do not need to know about "why sirens." 2. Any other nosy questions?
@@warriormanmaxx8991 yeah why so serious it was just a question I thought someone was running from the police but undoubtedly we got this Maxx guy who ain't max at anything and wants to be a prick if you don't want negative vibes don't come at me with em cause im toxic asf I enjoy hatin ass people like u
"Pads are good for 15 to 25k miles"... Me with 120k miles now looking at changing pads... Uh oh lol. I had a shop look at them at 80k, and they said they were at "25% life left", guess I'll find out how true that is.
My commute was 75 miles each way for years, so it's almost entirely highway miles.
Good video
Thanks
well done.
How is this checking when it's not on the car? 🤦♂️
Thank you
Welcome!
good video
Glad you enjoyed
Wouldn’t consider a WRX a performance car. Good video tho
I'm on 130K on my 16' Impala.. I guess I'll just change them to pass the car to my son.
Subaru WRX
7:01
Unbelievable how rusty these rotors are at 43k miles! And they are OEM rotors? OEM parts are good for correct specs, but don't expect them to be of good quality.
Yup, OEM
3:40
subaru wrx sti
Nice BSSC hat lol
Holy crap those rotors are TERRIBLE for 43k miles.
Welcome to new england!
@Auto Enthusiast I got 43k on mine in rhode island on a ram 1500 and they weren't NEEEARLY that bad
Its called a BRAKE DISC!!
I am in the US not the UK!
Those are the worst looking factory rotors I’ve ever seen. I’ll never buy Subaru rotors after this video especially with warranties and better prices available from aftermarket.
Where's the video so I can see how ti change my break pads?
Go wildcats
your mic is way too far away
Wtf
"rotors cheap these days"?? I dont' think so.
“Performance car” 🤣
Lol
You drive a fiat 🤣🤣
Way too much talking. Get to it!
My brake pads have lasted me to 105k miles. I still have 5mm left. 😅
Rip to engine breaking lol
@@AutoEnthusiastRIP to your face breaking lol. I drive mostly highway as I work from home so I don't break much. Runs perfectly. Rotors are still perfect too. Zoom zoom.
Great video, thank you 👍
Thank you
Good info thx again dude