This video fixed my problem. I cant thank you enough. My mechanic said it's a faulty injector that I bought, so i showed him this video and sorted it. My mechanic never knew about this method. Seat altea 2013 1.6 tdi cr
a quick advice for everyone trying this procedure. i tried this on my cayc 1.6 tdi, followed the procedure religously but the car just idled without revving, and vcds said 'running'. stopped it after some time, and the car worked even worse, like tractor. i've read somewhere that the ecu software is probably too old. i went to an independent tuner, he updated the ecu to ver. 9979, then tried this procedure again. car was revving to about 3k rpm and it took around 10 minutes. no more rough idling, white smoke with diesel smell, car works like a clock, no injector knocking. costed me 60€. thank you for this informative video, cheers!
Hi just had the software updated aswell and started the procedure. It worked but it went on and on. I waited about 20 minutes before giving up. How long did it take you to finish the procedure?
@@alolatunjai8350 tuner was confused as well because it lasted well over 10 minutes for the first time he ran it. i saw him go into the car and interrupted it somehow, probably by touching the gas pedal since i didnt see him touching the laptop until he ran it again. the next time he ran the procedure it took 10 minutes and then stopped revving and idled normally. im sorry if im not of much help but i wasnt paying too much attention since he had some cool birds in the cage near his garage lol. good luck man
Work fine for me :) The engine runs like clockwork and doesn't make any noise anymore. Thank you for this well explained video ! You saved me 4 injectors replacement ... :)
Warning to anyone attempting to do this with a third party tool. I was trying to use an Xtool D9S Pro to perform the adaptation. It didn't run the correct program and got into the infinite loop problem. You will know you are in the correct program because the instructions will tell you to press the clutch and brake pedal, then release, then accelerator and release. The incorrect program will tell you to press and hold the brake pedal and accelerator together. Furthermore, the incorrect program WILL delete all existing adaptation points and the engine will run very rough after you finally give up. In my case it was running rough, misfiring, vibrating excessively, deviations were +2 to +5 and there was a lot of smoke and injector knock. When I switched to using VCDS and following instructions properly, the correct program ran successfully, but did not fully fix the rough running. I ended up running the program multiple times and after the second run, the engine was purring again quite nicely but the deviations were still a bit high. By my third time running the adaptation program, the deviations had gone down to well below 1 and my issues were resolved. And one final point, be sure to run a DPF regen BEFORE doing the adaptation. It appears an excessive DPF differential pressure has a detrimental affect on injector adaptations, so by doing a DPF regen, you give the vehicle the best chance to properly adapt the injectors. Just make sure to shut down the engine after the regen, wait for the ECU to shut down, and then starting from fresh proceed to running the adaptation.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 well 1 went and just wanted to replace all of them for the newer model so that it didn’t happen again. Was pulling my hair out until I saw your vid👍life saver
Thanks for the video and for helping the community... I have 1.6 tdi dsg with 9922 soft up. B injectors, 130k km. I did this adaptation and the clicking sound that came from the injectors is much quieter now. I did not have any symptoms apart from that sound. The adaptation ran for about 5ish minutes, up until 3200rpm couple of times. I don't feel any change in performance.
Had injector 4 die today whilst doing a test drive after replacing a broken EGR. 2012 Octavia same engine. Thanks for the video - looks like VCDS is paying for itself :)
Well the EGR is the weak link in the 1.6 tbf. Generally the Siemens/ Continental injection system is reliable. I see lots of issues with not renewing clamp bolts etc. Great that you sorted a involved Job like this VCDS is a great tool.
For anyone having trouble getting with the "Adapting injector minimum deviation quantity" sitting at 3,000 rpm indefinitely. What I found, is that the engine coolant needs to be > 80°C. Spent hours trying to get it to work, only thing that did the trick for me was letting the engine idle until it got up to temperature!
Coding worked like a charm. Actually one of the original injectors was a way out from the others so the min deviation sequence did the trick. Thanks again! 💪🏻
Mine wouldn’t work initially. Had the engine up to temp and followed the exact instructions in the video but it would just sit at 800rpm. I had to get the ECU software updated mine was too low. Local tuner updated it for me now it works no issues.
Hello. First of all thanks for the video explanation it's very usefull. But I have a problem with my car : golf 6 1.6 tdi cayc - 252.000 km After the adaptation procedure I still have a rough idle. Let me explain my situation. I've just changed the number 3 injector ( electricaly fail - low résistance ) with a brand new Continental one. I have cleared the p0203 error code then I warmup the engine till correct temp ( no error code ). Then I've made the procedure exactly as described in the video. It last for about 15-20min counting for about 28 throttle blips each cycle. Once the adaptation procedure completed in the vcds the idle remain rough. For the measured value of deviation Inj 1 : 0.6 - inj 2 : 0.3 - inj 3 : +2.0 - inj 4 : -1.9 So values remained the same as before adaptation. The car doen't have any other issue. It was running fine before the injector error code Concerning the injector 4. I had to remove the piezo head in order to extract the injector with a pneumatic injector puller because it was stuck. I've cleaned the nozzle of the injector in an ultrasonic bath. I've torqued the nut at 25Nm. I've cleaned injector seats with the correct reamer, put new copper washer and new clamp bolt torqued at 8Nm + 180°. I measured a resistance of 199 kohms Other info : Adaptation ide06141 made with Vcds clone 19.6.1 Ecu software 9983 So what I'm missing ? Do I need a Genuine vcds for that ? Maybe other people have or had a similar issue. Thanks in advance for your help.
Hi Emil, its important to realise that this inbuilt procedure is for the replacement of an injector. There are many reasons why compensation values vary, nozzle wear, drivetrain oscillations from worn flywheel etc. The Ecu adjusts this value continuously to smooth out idle. If your engine is performing ok I would leave it alone unless replacing a failed injector.
Hi, Injecto4 4 is showing high numbers compared to other 3. Its at 4.9mg/str MAX when cold. I noticed a horrible diesel knock only when I'm on a certain road first thing in the morning. It has a load of speed bumps with a gentle incline and when I gently accelerate after the 2nd or 3rd speed bump the knock starts and is continuous until I turn car off and restart and off I go again as gentle as possible. The problem goes away when warm and all injector reading are perfect and all similar. It goes up that same road with speedbump with no probs. Is there a chance the copper seal id defective and just expands when warn to make the desired seal? Or is it injector related AND will the adaptive routine work sort out the issue? I've had injector problems before ( post 2 yrs ago ) and learned a lot form this video and others Any thoughts and help would be appreciated. Thanks
Hey, Thanks for this video describing these things in great detail! Much appreciated :) With my VW Transporter T6 2016 the Injection Quantity Deviation for each cylinder is not listed in Advanced measurement values in VCDS. Is this because my ECU does not have these values available for diagnostics?
I have this deviation on #1 (-1.9049) and #4 (1.2424). I suppose #4 is compensating #1. #1 being closer to the dpf, it reaches higher temps. #2 (-0.3708) and #3 (0.5587) are ok, i think. Do you think an adaptation could smooth things or should i be prepared to change #1?
Great video! My golf mk6 1.6 tdi 2010 CAYC engine got injector 2 replaced in a VW shop. Do they perform the injectors adaptation there? Or should I go ahead and do it? My deviation values could be closer but I think they are in range.. I'm asking this because my engine seams to run rough when compared to other similar engines. Thanks!
Hi mate. It asked me to press the brake with clutch and then accelerator but the engine stays idle for 1 hour and does not adjust the injectors. The engine is a 1.6 CAYC 2010
Golf 1.6 tdi cayc 2011 my mechanic only replaced the piezo of cylinder 1 with another used one because it was burnt without replacing the injector. Does it still need to be recoded? How do I know what value to enter? furthermore I have -2mg/stroke on cylinder 1 at idle, while the "cylinder 1 main injection voltage charge" value is 690 uAs, about 40 points less than the other 3 cylinders. After 200km I had the same P0201 problem again but this time by resetting the errors, cylinder 1 also started again. I can hear a lot of noise between 1000 and 2000 rpm while I accelerate, both hot and cold.. before the piezo broke, the engine was perfect with no noises.. this procedure could solve my problem or should i replace the injector with new one? Thank you so much for any suggestions
Hi, just tried to do this on my VW Golf Mk6 1.6 tdi cayc 2009 Simos PCR 2.1 ECU software 8831. My VCDS version is 19.6.1 it failed to do this adaptation even though security access was accepted. Is this because my ECU software is to low at 8831 which is 2010 date? I have read others saying ECU software needs to be 9971 pre EA 189 ref diesel gate scandal for this to work. Do you have any information or personal experience of why this adaptiom might fail? Any help would be most appreciated.
Hi can I ask I have a problem with pre injection 1 activation duration is showing 0 on my scann tool . It’s a cayc 1600cc Vw beetle 2014 plate . Main injection is 0.3735 1 injection is 0 2 injection is 0.276 3 injection is 0.284 Many thanks .
Have the same issue, P0202 fault which "is" injector cylinder 2, the faulty one is second from the left looking in from the radiator. My VCDS data blocks all show cylinder 4 faulty (which I gather is the firing order so no 2 geographically). Did you have to remove number 1 and 2 injector to replace as the bar will not come out unless you do? (they say remove injector 1and 4 in the manual but think its firing order again). I would be careful with the VCDS use of cylinder numbers, if you are replacing an injector I would check the existing code correlates to the injector you are replacing so when you recode you know it corresponds.
Hi phil, generally cylinder 1 is @ crank pulley end. (French cars Renault for example are the inverse of this). The injector clamp for 1 & 2 will need to be removed and u can remove injector 1. (Run the engine till hot before you start). Replace injector along with o-ring, copper seal and new injector clamp bolt. Ensure you torque correctly. Reprogram injector compensation code and run the balancing routine.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 I have fitted replacement injector and the car runs...sort of. get P0101 fault after 5 mins but heyho. I ran adaptation for 25 mins and just says running. Is the glow plug lamp supposed to flash at the point when you get to 2000rpm? mine actually gets to 2500 then stops and returns to idle automatically.
@@philcross6037 Hi Phil, the adaptation has not ran correctly. Read my previous replies to other posters, this procedure is essentially not coded intuitively by vag com. Security access must be obtained as outlined and is the reason i made this particular video.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 followed this three times: Start by bringing engine to operating temp and ensuring and ensuring no active codes present. Now EXIT from VCDS switch of engine and take out key WAIT until all throttle body etc PWM hum stops AT LEAST 20 SECONDS. Start engine and idle, establish communication with ECU go straight to security access and apply offered code DO IT STRAIGHT to Basic settings and select IDE06141 select run - BRAKES & CLUTCH - release - Floor throttle - release as instructed. You know its wrong if it revs to approx 2800 rpm and stays there. Correct operation is revs to 2000rpm then 10 runs through the rev range 3 to 4 times takes 5 - 8 mins. It WILL NOT WORK if you navigate to security access after running engine for awhile and checking fault codes ete - security access MUST be established by full power down and initial communication.
@@philcross6037 I see Phil, did the previous MAF code you reported disappear? I assume no codes are present at the time of performing the balancing routine.
hello, I have a vw caddy from 2012 which consumes a lot, on a full I do about 600 km, do you think this setting would reduce the consumption or what could I do?
Just fitted a new injector to a skoda 1.6 tdi 2016 Did a leak off yesterday and showed it didn't leak off at all or barely. Changed it coded it in with modus snap on. Its not happy it's running on 3. No engine codes. I checked to see all codes are there. They are. I'm thinking use VCDS but is there something else I should do I will be sure to try this Procdure!
Hello buddy. I have got 4 new injectors replaced but the mechanic forgot to coding it. The car been shaking and revs it’s self when it’s parked. I got someone coming tomorrow to code them in. He’s got vcds program but he’s never have done it an Audi before. Any advice or just to follow when you done in the video? Appreciate your time to read this for me
Hi I have a audi a4 b7 2.0 tdi 2006 my car is driving fine... when engine gets to operating temperature the car vibrates and shakes at idle no smoke or anything idle is not hunting .. had vcds on to check everything seems good only got p0674 code for glow plug . Checked injectors all in spec cylinder 1. -0.16 mg . Cylinder 2. - 0.02 mg . Cylinder 3 . 0.28 mg . Cylinder 4 . -0.07 mg .. but injection quantity is bouncing around 1.5 mg to 2.5 mg/str and it says it supposed to be around 3.0 to 9.0 mg/str is there any way you can adjust that thanks ..
Hi lad, I have a 141 Passat 1.6tdi when I start it cold there is a misfire and when driving along in 4th gear it starts chugging along the road 212,000km on it, would it be injector or something else ? (There’s no codes on the dash)
You'll need to read engine ecu in any case. If injector failed electrically it will shoot a code instantly, this doesn't seem to be the case for you. Does it drive OK at times? When warmed up does it idle OK? How is the flywheel? Clutch pulsing under foot? Lots to find out before I'd condem an Injector.
It idles fine when warm,it drives grand apart from the chugging in 4th,5th and 6th gear. Should I take it to a garage to see if it brings up anything on the computer?, Also sometimes there’s a strong smell of diesel at times.
I replaced injectors washers and now the deviation is random from a day to another. Isn't this operation also performed when the injector washers are replaced?
Hey! very good video. I have replaced an injector yesterday and now want to run this adaptation. even though i follow all your instructions it says "Request out of range". Engine is operation temperature as well. Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance
Hi there, it depends on the year of your SEAT, this procedure is applicable to the CAY series of engines from 2009-2012 with Siemens/Continental engine management after this VAG switched to Bosch and Delphi.
Hi. I’ve done everything right with the minimum quantity and so one. The car was running for a few miles really smooth comparing to before! But now I’ve got EGR failure. I think it might be connected with the new values from the injectors. I am cleaning the the errors all the time but the light comes up straight away! Any advice on the EGR! Can I do a”reset” to the EGR ? Thank you
Hi, what is the code concerning the EGR? If it a position sensor short to high or ground the EGR is dead. There is a very Common problem with the non contact position sensor in the EGR motor failing.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 It did start right after I’ve done the minimum quantity on the injectors, it went pretty well. I hade the rough running and so one! So I am assuming that it might be a option to reset the values for the exhaust circulation after the injectors adaption ? 😅
@@TiagoOliveira-if6zw you certainly can try to perform basic setting of EGR valve as I agree its strange it happened after doing adaption. wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16787/P0403/001027
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 I have the latest version of Vcds, I can’t really find that option! 😅 One thing I realize is when I am doing dpf regeneration the error don’t come up and the car is driving fine! I presume the best way for me it’s to delete the dpf and egr! Since I can’t fix this problem. Thank you for your help and keep helping the community! Appreciated
I replaced my Skoda Yeti 4th fuel injector and while coding , when press the do it button , a dialogue box appears saying : This appears to be an uninitialised control module; Valid WSC/importer/equipment data may be required. Click Yes for vcds to use default values of 12345/123/12345 Click No for vcds to use values currently in the module Click cancel to go back and manually edit the values I tried both the yes and no options nothing works , engine won't start (was working perfectly before it was just a bad 4th injector but was working) . I primed fuel as well. The car engine is not starting at all now seems like the coding is messed up. Any help would be appreciated. (VCDS is genuine - software , and cable both )
Tried it on my Audi A3 1.6 (2012) and it worked, it had clinking noise before but now it is really smooth. Initially I thought there is a bad injector but for now it works well. All-though the torque is not here anymore so I guess the algorithm made the injectors closer to the lower values so that it throws less gasoline which made the car weaker now.
Sorry, maybe already posted question, but, can I perform this adaptation even if the injectors are not new or ever been replaced?! 1.6 tdi CAY engine. Thanks a lot for your effort! Regards!
@alteaxl4621 yes you can but why? This procedure is for adjustment of the pilot injection parameters and cylinder balance, it may change the characteristics of idle etc but will not fix a mechanical issue. Do you have a problem with your engine?
Thank you very much for your reply. Kinda I do, on some occasions I do get inconsistent idle like fluctuations from 780 rpm as normal, to 750 rpm - 810 rpm.. when I turn the AC on or some bigger electric consumer this problem disappears. Kinda awkward. Thanks again mate!
@@nenOOOOOOOO engine when idling will enter smooth running control to try and balance cylinder pressure for smoother idle, as soon as AC or Alternator are called this mode will exit, so might just be some instability around this.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Thanks mate... Already did alternator pulley, new aux belt and new belt tensioner... Didnt touch the AC though.. maybe next. Keep up the good work, and all the best!!!
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Do you know why I do not have in VCDS this function IDE06141? I have the same CAYC engine in Golf, UDS, I’m using VCDS version 20 and I don’t have it. I have the same problem in injector number 3, but can’t do this adaptation. Thanks for help.
Hello, everything worked well on my 1.6tdi cayc, duration: 20 min, after that engine sound and behaviour became very good, motor health is back. Thank you so much. Do you have other procedures like this one to improve other things ?
Hi, I am stuck in the infinate loop. I did everything word for word about 5, also looked at part 2 and still stuck in a loop. Was there anything different that you did?@@GEO-42
There is a follow up video after this one on this channel about the infinite loop. It's an issue with vcds, you should watch it. Basically when engine is started and vcds working, you should navigate in vcds, read some random values and THEN try the adaptation after entering the security code.
I'm trying to adapt used injectors on a 2.0 cr tdi amarok 90kw but vcds only changed the inj 1 code, others keep saying out of range, am I missing something?
Did all the steps on the video exactly, but the IDE06141 Adapting injector option isn’t in my list?! 2010 1.6TDI Skoda CAYC engine… any idea why it wouldn’t be there?
Hi Richard, do you mean CAYC engine? Yes all modern common rail diesel injectors generally need to have their offset codes assigned in the factory programmed.
I have a problem with my ibiza 1.6tdi 105hp, when i start the engine in the morning there is a loud sound, clicking, engine vibrating and a white smoke coming out. And after it is warm it sounds good. Is there any solution? Or I should change the injectors? Thanks!
Hi @NotBAD The symptoms you describe could point to many things but a more detailed assessment is required. Do you have any Engine fault codes active? If the engine is performing normally when warm I certainly would not replace Injectors unless they are obviously defective.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 hey, thanks for the reply, really appreciated. I havo no engine faults and this happens only once a day in the morning when the engine is cold.. when it's warm it runs like a clock, a friend told me to put some oil+gasoline in the tank, it may help the injectors clean... Thanks again.
@NotBAD Please do NOT put petrol/gasoline into a diesel engine! your common rail pump relies on Diesel fuel for lubrication and the solvent action of gasoline will dramatically reduce the lubricity of the fuel causing complete injection system failure.
Hi can you please help me I change the speed limiters it was at 190 km I was just messing around. I change it to two hundred km so for some reason when I press do it it kept going back to 50km now I have smoke bellowing out of tail pipe and it’s running like a pig and there’s was smoke coming out from under the bonnet I was afraid to look. Can you please help me my head is all messed up i know I did something really bad to the engine have you any ideas please help
hello i have prb with my mk 6 1.6 tdi 105 ps, i change the new injector i coded. but i cant start the procedure for adaptation the quantity injector can you help mee?
@Alex Alex the procedure with vcds is very specific to the continental eng management system, remember vcds is a odis emulator not perfect. Power down fully and enter exactly as i did in part 2 video
hallo man i have problem after this procedur i dont make correct and now engine start whit allot off smoke and after 1 min shut down i cannot give acceleration nothing, before this happen everything was fine, any solution pls
Hi. I have tried to swap the faulty solenoid of an injektor on a cayc engine. Engine runs , but ruff and knocks under load. Tried to put in the new solenoid code but got a error ( Adaptation Error This appears to be an uninitialized control module; valid WSC/Importer/Equipment data may be required. Click [Yes] for VCDS to use default values of 12345/123/12345. Click [No] for VCDS to try the values currently in the module. Click [Cancel] to go back and manually edit the values.
After replacing an Injector firstly programme the injector compensation code. After this has been successful perform the quantity adaption. Click yes to valid importor code it can't be set to 0.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 got it to take the new code and did the minimum deviation program. Engine runs at boost but shackes and knocks badly under load before boost comes in. When I took the top of one injector and put it on the old one I had it must have been totally wrong?
@@kjelljohannessen8827 trying to repair these injectors yourself without specialist equipment is not advised, I'm pretty sure continental / VDO use shims to calibrate the piezo stack. You need a reconditioned or new injector. Be careful because a badly over fuelled cylinder will put a hole in a piston.
i have a seat ibiza 1.6 tdi cayb 2013. the car has costum ecu flash, i had to replace the #3 injector and now i have jerking. my mechanic said i have to perform an ide6140 but not sure if it can be done with modded ecu map. do you know if i can?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 i replaced the injector with a refurbised one that was tested before for proper fuction and it passed the test from a very trusted person. i then passed the new compensation code. i yet have to do the ide6140. so i will procced once the costum ecu rom will not stop the proccedure
@@papakolos the custom map should have no effect on the calibration process, the tuner will have updated various parameter quantities but not algorithmic functionality of basic setting procedures (calibration functionality). In any case the software will overtime automatically compensate when smooth running compensation is implemented during idle mode. The critical parameter is that the injector has been coded so the software knows its been replaced.
I've followed this to the letter. I have cayc engine also. All that happens is the glow plug light flashes forever. No throttle blips or nothing. Just idles. Vcds says running
Its in an Infinite loop when that happens - Usually caused by not entering security access only after an ECU power cycle as outlined. But if you have done that correct I am unsure? Reports that non genuine VCDS interfaces can be troublesome also.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 yes I definitely did it correct. I also have genuine cable and software. Im stumped. After I tried this several times I tried to drive the car and its was terrible, clouds of smoke, injector 2 and 4 was pegged at 5mg/stroke vs 1 and 3 - 5mg/stroke to compensate. I left it for 2 hrs and restarted back to normal issue with it being a bit lumpy and injector 4 is 1. 5 to 2mg/stroke and 1 2 3 are trying to compensate, not so much 2. So I don't know what to do now. I have no codes.
@@LAW-fv6ys Hi @LAW what year is this 1.6 CAYC also why did you initally decide to run the routine (lumpy idle?) if you have clouds of smoke it is not because of the routine, it only compensates to achieve balanced smooth idle, smoke is due to damaged injector, turbo damage etc.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 2010. I didn't have clouds of smoke until after failed adaptions attempts. The original fault was just rough idle when cold. I think the real issue is leaking copper washer seal on injector 2 and 4. Hence worse when cold and also when you drive it it will knock more and feel under powered.
@@LAW-fv6ys I see, that''s strange as the compensation amount is small can create knock but should not be able to over fuel enough to create smoke especially on a car with a DPF. If injector copper seals are bad there is a vent hole for each cylinder close to the exhaust manifold bolt, there should be oil escaping there. I dont know why the routine wont work for you, I presume the ECU was never mapped? Have done this many times on 1.6 continental/siemens ECU's only did the video to highlight the problem you are having, which is caused by not power cycling the ECU before entering security access.
This is a bosch ECU it has its own fuel adaptation routines, the video is for the CAY 1.6 Siemens/CONTINENTAL ECU. Short answer is yes if the routine is available in VCDS
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 it sounds abit knockey and loud like the injectors are faulty. So it can be done on bosche injectors or only on Siemens?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 yes I entered the codes from top of the injectors which I bought from GSF. Engines done 186k and fitted them upon full rebuild but only done 1 mile since as I'm getting p256300 and P00AF00. I had zero turbo problems before engine was rebuilt.
@@Liveforeever why was it rebuilt? P2563 could be the diaphragm in the turbo actuator damaged or as you say poorly built turbo, strange. Focus on fixing these before worring about injectors.
@@shanebaggley4167 Is the engine running rough? Diesel knock etc, what was the reason for running the injector adaptation? Disconnecting an Injector while running is not recommended. Does the ecu have any codes etc?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 this was after changing a faulty Injector for second hand before the quantity adaption. Seemed to be smoke coming from behind the engine when running rough.
@@shanebaggley4167 second hand injectors can have very high leak off rates from wear, so lots of smoke could be due to overfueling, adaption will not cure wear.
Hi, I tried this and it just stays running and does not complete even after well over an hour. Is there any reason why it wont complete? I did select the inj deviation minimum quantity while the car was off at first thinking it would do anything but am now left with ending knocking under any bit of load. Original issue was intermittent rough idle on cold start up and the odd time engone knoecking on take off even after 15 min of driving. Figured Id try this but am worse off now....any help please as I need car in two days time for work. Mk 6 Golf TDI 2012 Thanks.
Hi there, did you check the injection quantity offsets first? If one injector deviates significantly it would be worth doing a leak off test. Also is your DMF ok?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 No I dont think I checked injection quantity offsets. I remeber looking at mg/stroke ( Not sure name of this on VCDS.) and Inj 1 was running higher than the others. DMF is fine, the odd time in the cold on cold at startup it can cause bit of shudder on first 5 - 10 miles but perfect then after. Can you explain leak off test? How to do it?
Hi again, I am still trying to find out why the Injector deviation quantity procedure does not complete on my car 1.6 tdi CAYC? I seen across other boards similar issues with it not completing that no one can answer it, just dead end threads all over and its very important to find out why as it left my car knocking terribly when i tried this inj deviation quantity procedure on VCDS. Please can anyone for the love of god give a proper accurate answer. Is there a way to undo what I did, resetting inj dev quantity offsets in VCDS. I even emailed Ross tech, people behind VCDS and nothing either. Frustrated ....Thanks
@@johnogorman2920 Hi John, Yes there is a way to undo this, quite simply the procedure to run this algorithm is convoluted because quite frankly VCDS are not VW AG - they are reverse engineering the software (which is excellent) and don't have access to the nuances. In any case this particular sub-routine in the 1.6tdi Siemens / Conti engine management does require security access and the problem lies in how this access is established. Start by bringing engine to operating temp and ensuring and ensuring no active codes present. Now EXIT from VCDS switch of engine and take out key WAIT until all throttle body etc PWM hum stops AT LEAST 20 SECONDS. Start engine and idle, establish communication with ECU go straight to security access and apply offered code DO IT STRAIGHT to Basic settings and select IDE06141 select run - BRAKES & CLUTCH - release - Floor throttle - release as instructed. You know its wrong if it revs to approx 2800 rpm and stays there. Correct operation is revs to 2000rpm then 10 runs through the rev range 3 to 4 times takes 5 - 8 mins. It WILL NOT WORK if you navigate to security access after running engine for awhile and checking fault codes ete - security access MUST be established by full power down and initial comunication. I did this twice on a 2010 golf & 2014 Caddy this week. Hope this sorts you out. I deliberately did it wrong the first time and is did leave a noticeable knock until I ran it again correctly ! let me know how you get on.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 I did what you said, no fault code but the result was that glow plug light was blinkinking and idle stayed at 800rpm, no change. Does the sw version of the car make difference?
Does anyone know if IDE06141 will only work if a certain ECU software is loaded? As my ECU has 2010 software version 8831,my minimum quantity adaption failed to work. I have NOT had the EA 189 fix done to my Golf Mk6
@@ohsasho5865 Hi, so looks like we are in the same boat with this adjustment of the injectors. Please may l ask do you know what your engine ECU version you are at. This is shown in the VCDS scan of the ECU.
Some early CAY engines don't seem to have it in the software rev. Have definitely seen a few skodas that don't have the option. Most likely the ECU will adapt over time in any case.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 i have 1.6 tdi golf 6 cayc. On cold start in the morning i have rough idle sometimes but after few minutes it gets normal. When engine is hot, at 90 C, i have that knocking sound arround 1500 and 2000rpm when accelerating. It does not effect my ride, but it is very annoying. Tomorrow i will have exact values of injectorts to see if there is some large deviations. Im wondering do i need to change injectors (one or more) or it can be repaired with adoption
@@pochinki420 Hey, well being honest adaption does not fix knocking really - check your values regarding compensation values, how many Km's on the engine and flywheel ? knocking under acceleration is most likely over fueling from a worn nozzle. I cant stress how much people need to consider the complete drive train, including flywheel and engine mountings. I assume no codes are present atm.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 im at 220.000km, no fault codes, and flywheel is at good condition. I will post values tomorrow, just to hear your opinion
I replaced an injector, put in the code supplied and took car out for road test. Engine had vibration between 1k - 2k rpm. Checked the deviation quantities and the the injector I replaced had a value of +2 but the others had -0.6... Ran the deviation adaption, took around 5 minutes to complete. Checked values again and all within tolerance of each other. Roadtested again, no hesitating just smooth as butter!
Well just had the RAC out to my 2009 VW Golf Mk 6 1.6 tdi cayc, flashing glow plug on dash running on 3 cylinders whilst far from home on holiday. RAC took approx 25 min to change number 1 injector after P0201 code found open circuit. The cast was £600.00 to change this injector Continental brand P/N= A2C9626040080 or 03L130277S. So l guess l now need to see how all 4 injector minimum quantity's are balanced after watching this very informative video. The brand new Continental injectors can be bought for approx £330.00, how the hell do RAC which is suppose to fit items for tree justify the £600.00 charge? Highway robbery in my opinion total scam
New injector, copper seal, o ring and stretch bolt about €350 new here in Ireland. Usually those injectors pull out easily so that price seems crazy tbh. Did they code the new injector?
@colin5064 you should be good to go, the ecu will compensate itself over the next 100kms only run the routine if you have a noticeable instability at idle.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi, thank you for the information update most appreciated. Your videos are a great resource of professional knowledge and experience.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi, please may l ask in your experience with these injectors. If number 1 has failed at 56,201 miles are the other three likely to fail soon or have l just been unlucky to have number 1 fail at such a low mileage. I bought this Golf 1.6 tdi cayc new so l know its entire history. Any advice would be most appreciated, but not looking to waste money unnecessarily
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi, cheers for your reply. It's a 2009 Golf 1.6tdi CAYC engine. 2 Injectors replaced with recon units, coded in with VCDS and engine now runs lumpy at idle.
@MotoHighlands Is your VCDS the latest Revision I'm currently using V21.9 Also what is the Software code when you log into engine screen i.e. 1.6 R4CR Hxx xxxx Its possible that this was not available on early software versions - There may be an option to "Reset learned values of quantity adaption" this will reset the offsets for smooth running idle control.
I’ve tried the minimum injector deviation, when I had the original injectors, the vehicle performed the cycle in 5 mins. I changed the injector and now this is taking over 50 mins and isn’t finishing the process. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Hi there I have rought idle at cold dtart with my 2011 VW Jetta 1.6 tdi, engine code CAYC. Also engine has click sound under acceleration. I send all injectors 2 times for repair and cleaning and the injector tester show normal values for them. I try to do adaptation. Process starts , revs go up and down but it never ends. 30 minutes and still continue. What can I do ?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 thanks so much. I really appreciate it and I can’t thank you enough. I just wanna ask , mine lasted at least 20 or 25 minutes and VCDS said timeout, does it finished correctly? Cuz car is running really bad and I can hear injectors when I am driving. Also when I check values, 2 injectors have negative values around -1.4 and the other 2 have positive values around 0.5
Well spotted! I actually thought all siemens/CONTINENTAL injectors were 6 digit. Perhaps the ECU is putting in the 0 to fill the null placeholder. Generally the 2.0tdi with bosch use a 7 digit. In any case just put in your 6 digit code.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 after doing that and adjust the injector quantity, the values are at 90°: 1. 0.7180 2.-0.3177 3.-0.6425 4.0.4697 Are the values okay?
@@costash2 what is the history of the car? What car, engine code and what did you do? Did you change 1 injector or 4 and why? Also did you code and run the balancing adaptation?
Thanks for fast reply it’s a clone but think I will have to buy genuine one fitted refurbished set to are ok but 2 of them are in plus 2 lumpy on tick over and diesel knock to about 1500 rpm under load then fine
@@andystewart7086 you fitted referbished injectors? If done by a diesel specialist they should be perfect, make sure you code the compensation codes first. Probably need the genuine interface for that I'd imagine.
Bought them off eBay sending them back as in 2 plus making my car white smoke compression test all cylinders 25 bar bought vagcom should be here by Wednesday cheers
@@andystewart7086 wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/2.0L_CR_TDI#Adaptation Just make sure you perform this in the Adaptation first - The ECU compensates for mileage so if you put in new injectors you will get over fueling & diesel knock.
Check the injector compensation values for large deviations first. Also be aware that when idling a cylinder balancing algorithm runs to smoothen out idle, a worn flywheel will cause this to constantly try to balance the torsional oscillations from the flywhee so check also.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 I replaced all 4 injectors with refurbished. Adapted, but injectors compensation values are big. 1st and 4th over +1 and 2nd and 3rd under -1. What is the problem?
I did the adaptation and for now, after a week, the car is smooth as silk at idle at any temperature. I'm not embarrassed anymore at traffic lights. Ahah. Thanks.
Hello bro thanks for the video .. I have vw vento 2012 1.6 TDI engine have injector failure and replaced 3 injectors with 2 new and 1 used injectors one by one in 6 months after replacing 3rd injector (used injector) my engine performance has dropped and my mileage and pickup is very low, actually after replacing 3rd used injector with in a day again that 3rd injector got failed so have went to the service station and asked for 3rd one the service person did something in laptop for half an hour tha faulty injector gets adopted to it and fill date no failure in injectors but after that am only no pick and no milage my engine noice has changes pls help me out with this bro i want my previous performance back.. (also of I tell this story to any of my seicive person they all are checking in software and telling there is no fault code showing so ur injectors are working fine no need to clean or change the injector yet seams) thanks in advance 🙏🙏🙏
Hi Saravana, did your injectors fail electrically, did the piezo pack fail. Do you know what fault codes were present? How many KM's are on the engine? It is important to know if the injectors failed due to wear or electrical failure.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi Thank q so much for u reply, Yes my injectors failed electrically (solenoid), have not notice what fault code were reflected, now my ODO is 114000km and have faced injector failure at around 80000kms,
Very low mileage for failure! you should check the injector offsets first - the new injectors may be different from the used one. Very strange that 3 injectors failed piezo stack so quickly. The used injector may have a lot of milage on it - when coded the ECU thinks its new, did you run IDE06141 to balance?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi bro how to check injector offsets?? the used injector may have lot of mileage la bro so if i replace it with new means everything will be okay??? and don't no exactly whether my service person did IDE06141 to balance my injector or not, but he took hardly 15 to 20 mins to arrest the fault code. and bro how to contact you can u share ur mail id for further TIA
This video fixed my problem. I cant thank you enough. My mechanic said it's a faulty injector that I bought, so i showed him this video and sorted it. My mechanic never knew about this method. Seat altea 2013 1.6 tdi cr
Amazing detail from an experienced technician so very helpful first class video and walk through procedure.
Thank you so much for sharing
a quick advice for everyone trying this procedure. i tried this on my cayc 1.6 tdi, followed the procedure religously but the car just idled without revving, and vcds said 'running'. stopped it after some time, and the car worked even worse, like tractor. i've read somewhere that the ecu software is probably too old. i went to an independent tuner, he updated the ecu to ver. 9979, then tried this procedure again. car was revving to about 3k rpm and it took around 10 minutes. no more rough idling, white smoke with diesel smell, car works like a clock, no injector knocking. costed me 60€. thank you for this informative video, cheers!
Hi just had the software updated aswell and started the procedure. It worked but it went on and on. I waited about 20 minutes before giving up. How long did it take you to finish the procedure?
@@alolatunjai8350 tuner was confused as well because it lasted well over 10 minutes for the first time he ran it. i saw him go into the car and interrupted it somehow, probably by touching the gas pedal since i didnt see him touching the laptop until he ran it again. the next time he ran the procedure it took 10 minutes and then stopped revving and idled normally. im sorry if im not of much help but i wasnt paying too much attention since he had some cool birds in the cage near his garage lol. good luck man
@@eu4iyaah okay thanks
Where did you update the ecu?
Where are you
Fixed my reconditioned injector knocking and general poor running brilliant video thank you
Thanks for this it helped me alot!!!! just a pointer if the car is not at 90 degrees c the adaption will rev at 2800rpm until it gets warrm...
Work fine for me :) The engine runs like clockwork and doesn't make any noise anymore. Thank you for this well explained video ! You saved me 4 injectors replacement ... :)
What did you do, minum quantity adaptation or coded them in?
How long did it take?
Warning to anyone attempting to do this with a third party tool. I was trying to use an Xtool D9S Pro to perform the adaptation. It didn't run the correct program and got into the infinite loop problem. You will know you are in the correct program because the instructions will tell you to press the clutch and brake pedal, then release, then accelerator and release. The incorrect program will tell you to press and hold the brake pedal and accelerator together.
Furthermore, the incorrect program WILL delete all existing adaptation points and the engine will run very rough after you finally give up. In my case it was running rough, misfiring, vibrating excessively, deviations were +2 to +5 and there was a lot of smoke and injector knock.
When I switched to using VCDS and following instructions properly, the correct program ran successfully, but did not fully fix the rough running. I ended up running the program multiple times and after the second run, the engine was purring again quite nicely but the deviations were still a bit high. By my third time running the adaptation program, the deviations had gone down to well below 1 and my issues were resolved.
And one final point, be sure to run a DPF regen BEFORE doing the adaptation. It appears an excessive DPF differential pressure has a detrimental affect on injector adaptations, so by doing a DPF regen, you give the vehicle the best chance to properly adapt the injectors. Just make sure to shut down the engine after the regen, wait for the ECU to shut down, and then starting from fresh proceed to running the adaptation.
Ciao ti volevo chiedere,posso eseguire il basic setting a macchina fredda?i miei iniettori non sono regolari solo a freddo.grazie
Just fitted 4 injectors and had lumpy idle on my 1.6 Ibiza. Thanks so much for sharing this as it resolved my issue 👍
Good Work! Glad it helped! All 4? Sounds nasty.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 well 1 went and just wanted to replace all of them for the newer model so that it didn’t happen again. Was pulling my hair out until I saw your vid👍life saver
@@richardwebber132 do you have the part number for the newer model? Or for which engine code/model are they for?
Thanks for the video and for helping the community...
I have 1.6 tdi dsg with 9922 soft up. B injectors, 130k km.
I did this adaptation and the clicking sound that came from the injectors is much quieter now.
I did not have any symptoms apart from that sound.
The adaptation ran for about 5ish minutes, up until 3200rpm couple of times.
I don't feel any change in performance.
Had injector 4 die today whilst doing a test drive after replacing a broken EGR. 2012 Octavia same engine. Thanks for the video - looks like VCDS is paying for itself :)
Well the EGR is the weak link in the 1.6 tbf. Generally the Siemens/ Continental injection system is reliable.
I see lots of issues with not renewing clamp bolts etc.
Great that you sorted a involved Job like this VCDS is a great tool.
For anyone having trouble getting with the "Adapting injector minimum deviation quantity" sitting at 3,000 rpm indefinitely. What I found, is that the engine coolant needs to be > 80°C. Spent hours trying to get it to work, only thing that did the trick for me was letting the engine idle until it got up to temperature!
Yes the coolent must be above 80°c this is true for all adaptions.
True gentleman - thanks so much, managed to do the injector adaptation on the fueling side!!
Thank you so much for this! Very detailed and well explained, worked like a charm!
Very informative and clear, thank you. 👌🏻
Replaced the injector with a recon yesterday, coding next.
Coding worked like a charm. Actually one of the original injectors was a way out from the others so the min deviation sequence did the trick.
Thanks again! 💪🏻
Mine wouldn’t work initially. Had the engine up to temp and followed the exact instructions in the video but it would just sit at 800rpm. I had to get the ECU software updated mine was too low. Local tuner updated it for me now it works no issues.
Do you know to which software he upgradef
Positive correction means underfueling, sir, not overfueling. The ecu tries to compensate, and that's why it shows a positive value..
This was very helpful. Thanks! FYI future me: do this with a hot engine.
Yes it is a requirement that engine is above min 70 degrees.
Hello. First of all thanks for the video explanation it's very usefull. But I have a problem with my car : golf 6 1.6 tdi cayc - 252.000 km After the adaptation procedure I still have a rough idle. Let me explain my situation. I've just changed the number 3 injector ( electricaly fail - low résistance ) with a brand new Continental one. I have cleared the p0203 error code then I warmup the engine till correct temp ( no error code ). Then I've made the procedure exactly as described in the video. It last for about 15-20min counting for about 28 throttle blips each cycle. Once the adaptation procedure completed in the vcds the idle remain rough.
For the measured value of deviation
Inj 1 : 0.6 - inj 2 : 0.3 - inj 3 : +2.0 - inj 4 : -1.9
So values remained the same as before adaptation.
The car doen't have any other issue. It was running fine before the injector error code
Concerning the injector 4. I had to remove the piezo head in order to extract the injector with a pneumatic injector puller because it was stuck.
I've cleaned the nozzle of the injector in an ultrasonic bath. I've torqued the nut at 25Nm.
I've cleaned injector seats with the correct reamer, put new copper washer and new clamp bolt torqued at 8Nm + 180°.
I measured a resistance of 199 kohms
Other info :
Adaptation ide06141 made with Vcds clone 19.6.1
Ecu software 9983
So what I'm missing ? Do I need a Genuine vcds for that ?
Maybe other people have or had a similar issue.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Did you manage to fix this and how please?
Tyvm tanks to your video i can walk again , u are a legend
Nicely done
Q" can I do that in my VW Touareg v6 tdi to calibrate injectors looks like #2 is giving on higher side
Thanks
Hi Emil, its important to realise that this inbuilt procedure is for the replacement of an injector. There are many reasons why compensation values vary, nozzle wear, drivetrain oscillations from worn flywheel etc.
The Ecu adjusts this value continuously to smooth out idle.
If your engine is performing ok I would leave it alone unless replacing a failed injector.
Thank you sir ,everything worked as you say. I repair these vehicles and wish we could do some business together
Hi,
Injecto4 4 is showing high numbers compared to other 3. Its at 4.9mg/str MAX when cold. I noticed a horrible diesel knock only when I'm on a certain road first thing in the morning. It has a load of speed bumps with a gentle incline and when I gently accelerate after the 2nd or 3rd speed bump the knock starts and is continuous until I turn car off and restart and off I go again as gentle as possible.
The problem goes away when warm and all injector reading are perfect and all similar. It goes up that same road with speedbump with no probs.
Is there a chance the copper seal id defective and just expands when warn to make the desired seal? Or is it injector related AND will the adaptive routine work sort out the issue?
I've had injector problems before ( post 2 yrs ago ) and learned a lot form this video and others
Any thoughts and help would be appreciated. Thanks
Excellent walkthrough 👍👍
Hey, Thanks for this video describing these things in great detail! Much appreciated :) With my VW Transporter T6 2016 the Injection Quantity Deviation for each cylinder is not listed in Advanced measurement values in VCDS. Is this because my ECU does not have these values available for diagnostics?
@AmundAntonsen Hi man, I'm pretty sure your ECU is delphi in that model so completely different engine management form the continental.
I have this deviation on #1 (-1.9049) and #4 (1.2424). I suppose #4 is compensating #1. #1 being closer to the dpf, it reaches higher temps.
#2 (-0.3708) and #3 (0.5587) are ok, i think. Do you think an adaptation could smooth things or should i be prepared to change #1?
If its not broke dont fix it 🙂 - I would leave everything as it is unless you have an active code.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 tkx. It has an instable idle when cold and ratle noise when accelerating at low rpn when hot
Have you ever executed ide06141 on 1, 61 R4 CR td H43 8856
Great video! My golf mk6 1.6 tdi 2010 CAYC engine got injector 2 replaced in a VW shop. Do they perform the injectors adaptation there? Or should I go ahead and do it? My deviation values could be closer but I think they are in range.. I'm asking this because my engine seams to run rough when compared to other similar engines. Thanks!
Odis will prompt them to do it, so they will have done it I'd imagine.
Remember in any case over time the ECU is adjusting this value in any case
Hi mate. It asked me to press the brake with clutch and then accelerator but the engine stays idle for 1 hour and does not adjust the injectors.
The engine is a 1.6 CAYC 2010
Did you sort this out?
Have you solved it now?
Thanks very much indeed! Just doing the coding on its own worked for me :)
Golf 1.6 tdi cayc 2011
my mechanic only replaced the piezo of cylinder 1 with another used one because it was burnt without replacing the injector. Does it still need to be recoded? How do I know what value to enter? furthermore I have -2mg/stroke on cylinder 1 at idle, while the "cylinder 1 main injection voltage charge" value is 690 uAs, about 40 points less than the other 3 cylinders. After 200km I had the same P0201 problem again but this time by resetting the errors, cylinder 1 also started again. I can hear a lot of noise between 1000 and 2000 rpm while I accelerate, both hot and cold.. before the piezo broke, the engine was perfect with no noises.. this procedure could solve my problem or should i replace the injector with new one? Thank you so much for any suggestions
Hi, just tried to do this on my VW Golf Mk6 1.6 tdi cayc 2009 Simos PCR 2.1 ECU software 8831.
My VCDS version is 19.6.1 it failed to do this adaptation even though security access was accepted.
Is this because my ECU software is to low at 8831 which is 2010 date?
I have read others saying ECU software needs to be 9971 pre EA 189 ref diesel gate scandal for this to work.
Do you have any information or personal experience of why this adaptiom might fail?
Any help would be most appreciated.
Hi can I ask I have a problem with pre injection 1 activation duration is showing 0 on my scann tool . It’s a cayc 1600cc Vw beetle 2014 plate .
Main injection is 0.3735
1 injection is 0
2 injection is 0.276
3 injection is 0.284
Many thanks .
Very well explained video, many thanks !
Have the same issue, P0202 fault which "is" injector cylinder 2, the faulty one is second from the left looking in from the radiator. My VCDS data blocks all show cylinder 4 faulty (which I gather is the firing order so no 2 geographically). Did you have to remove number 1 and 2 injector to replace as the bar will not come out unless you do? (they say remove injector 1and 4 in the manual but think its firing order again).
I would be careful with the VCDS use of cylinder numbers, if you are replacing an injector I would check the existing code correlates to the injector you are replacing so when you recode you know it corresponds.
Hi phil, generally cylinder 1 is @ crank pulley end. (French cars Renault for example are the inverse of this).
The injector clamp for 1 & 2 will need to be removed and u can remove injector 1. (Run the engine till hot before you start).
Replace injector along with o-ring, copper seal and new injector clamp bolt.
Ensure you torque correctly.
Reprogram injector compensation code and run the balancing routine.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 I have fitted replacement injector and the car runs...sort of. get P0101 fault after 5 mins but heyho. I ran adaptation for 25 mins and just says running. Is the glow plug lamp supposed to flash at the point when you get to 2000rpm? mine actually gets to 2500 then stops and returns to idle automatically.
@@philcross6037 Hi Phil, the adaptation has not ran correctly. Read my previous replies to other posters, this procedure is essentially not coded intuitively by vag com.
Security access must be obtained as outlined and is the reason i made this particular video.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 followed this three times:
Start by bringing engine to operating temp and ensuring and ensuring no active codes present.
Now EXIT from VCDS switch of engine and take out key WAIT until all throttle body etc PWM hum stops AT LEAST 20 SECONDS.
Start engine and idle, establish communication with ECU go straight to security access and apply offered code DO IT
STRAIGHT to Basic settings and select IDE06141 select run - BRAKES & CLUTCH - release - Floor throttle - release as instructed.
You know its wrong if it revs to approx 2800 rpm and stays there.
Correct operation is revs to 2000rpm then 10 runs through the rev range 3 to 4 times takes 5 - 8 mins.
It WILL NOT WORK if you navigate to security access after running engine for awhile and checking fault codes ete - security access MUST be established by full power down and initial communication.
@@philcross6037 I see Phil, did the previous MAF code you reported disappear? I assume no codes are present at the time of performing the balancing routine.
hello, I have a vw caddy from 2012 which consumes a lot, on a full I do about 600 km, do you think this setting would reduce the consumption or what could I do?
Just fitted a new injector to a skoda 1.6 tdi 2016
Did a leak off yesterday and showed it didn't leak off at all or barely. Changed it coded it in with modus snap on. Its not happy it's running on 3. No engine codes. I checked to see all codes are there. They are. I'm thinking use VCDS but is there something else I should do I will be sure to try this Procdure!
I'm assuming the 2016 1.6tdi is running the Delphi injection system?
VCDS is what I would use. The delphi setup requires a conversion map I think.
@Richie if Delphi look at this post. forums.ross-tech.com/index.php?threads/3396/
Very interesting, hadn’t seen this before. Thanks.
Hello buddy. I have got 4 new injectors replaced but the mechanic forgot to coding it. The car been shaking and revs it’s self when it’s parked. I got someone coming tomorrow to code them in. He’s got vcds program but he’s never have done it an Audi before. Any advice or just to follow when you done in the video? Appreciate your time to read this for me
Hi there, Audi? Thats most likely a 2.0tdi probably Bosch injection system - do you have the model and engine code or power?
Hi I have a audi a4 b7 2.0 tdi 2006 my car is driving fine... when engine gets to operating temperature the car vibrates and shakes at idle no smoke or anything idle is not hunting .. had vcds on to check everything seems good only got p0674 code for glow plug . Checked injectors all in spec cylinder 1. -0.16 mg . Cylinder 2. - 0.02 mg . Cylinder 3 . 0.28 mg . Cylinder 4 . -0.07 mg .. but injection quantity is bouncing around 1.5 mg to 2.5 mg/str and it says it supposed to be around 3.0 to 9.0 mg/str is there any way you can adjust that thanks ..
How to be sure if a mechanic did code the injector? Maybe it is worth to re-code them again? Would it work to change few symbols in the code?
Does the engine need to be hot before doing this? Could you explain what to do if you encounter the infinate loop and how to start again
Hi lad, I have a 141 Passat 1.6tdi when I start it cold there is a misfire and when driving along in 4th gear it starts chugging along the road 212,000km on it, would it be injector or something else ? (There’s no codes on the dash)
You'll need to read engine ecu in any case. If injector failed electrically it will shoot a code instantly, this doesn't seem to be the case for you. Does it drive OK at times? When warmed up does it idle OK? How is the flywheel? Clutch pulsing under foot? Lots to find out before I'd condem an Injector.
It idles fine when warm,it drives grand apart from the chugging in 4th,5th and 6th gear. Should I take it to a garage to see if it brings up anything on the computer?, Also sometimes there’s a strong smell of diesel at times.
I replaced injectors washers and now the deviation is random from a day to another. Isn't this operation also performed when the injector washers are replaced?
Hey! very good video. I have replaced an injector yesterday and now want to run this adaptation. even though i follow all your instructions it says "Request out of range". Engine is operation temperature as well. Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance
Hi, do you know if this is the same process for the SEAT Ibiza 1.6 TDI? many thanks
Hi there, it depends on the year of your SEAT, this procedure is applicable to the CAY series of engines from 2009-2012 with Siemens/Continental engine management after this VAG switched to Bosch and Delphi.
Hi. I’ve done everything right with the minimum quantity and so one. The car was running for a few miles really smooth comparing to before! But now I’ve got EGR failure.
I think it might be connected with the new values from the injectors.
I am cleaning the the errors all the time but the light comes up straight away!
Any advice on the EGR!
Can I do a”reset” to the EGR ?
Thank you
Hi, what is the code concerning the EGR? If it a position sensor short to high or ground the EGR is dead.
There is a very Common problem with the non contact position sensor in the EGR motor failing.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 1 Fault Found:
7462 - EGR Valve (N18)
P0403 00 [175] - Malfunction
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 3
Mileage: 175997 km
Date: 2022.10.30
Time: 19:33:49
@@enginemanagementadventures7305
It did start right after I’ve done the minimum quantity on the injectors, it went pretty well.
I hade the rough running and so one!
So I am assuming that it might be a option to reset the values for the exhaust circulation after the injectors adaption ?
😅
@@TiagoOliveira-if6zw you certainly can try to perform basic setting of EGR valve as I agree its strange it happened after doing adaption.
wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16787/P0403/001027
@@enginemanagementadventures7305
I have the latest version of Vcds, I can’t really find that option! 😅
One thing I realize is when I am doing dpf regeneration the error don’t come up and the car is driving fine!
I presume the best way for me it’s to delete the dpf and egr! Since I can’t fix this problem.
Thank you for your help and keep helping the community! Appreciated
Legend. Great video.
Hi I ran this on a CAYE engine and it didn’t work correctly done you the procedure for the CAYE engine pls
I replaced my Skoda Yeti 4th fuel injector and while coding , when press the do it button , a dialogue box appears saying :
This appears to be an uninitialised control module;
Valid WSC/importer/equipment data may be required.
Click Yes for vcds to use default values of 12345/123/12345
Click No for vcds to use values currently in the module
Click cancel to go back and manually edit the values
I tried both the yes and no options nothing works , engine won't start (was working perfectly before it was just a bad 4th injector but was working) .
I primed fuel as well.
The car engine is not starting at all now seems like the coding is messed up. Any help would be appreciated.
(VCDS is genuine - software , and cable both )
Tried it on my Audi A3 1.6 (2012) and it worked, it had clinking noise before but now it is really smooth. Initially I thought there is a bad injector but for now it works well. All-though the torque is not here anymore so I guess the algorithm made the injectors closer to the lower values so that it throws less gasoline which made the car weaker now.
did u get an engine light with codes for injectors?
@@idajosefin0121 no engine light, just the clicking noise
Bu prosedürü enjektör degiştirmedenmi yaptınız Orijinal enjektörler üzerindeyken mi ?
Sorry, maybe already posted question, but, can I perform this adaptation even if the injectors are not new or ever been replaced?! 1.6 tdi CAY engine. Thanks a lot for your effort! Regards!
@alteaxl4621 yes you can but why? This procedure is for adjustment of the pilot injection parameters and cylinder balance, it may change the characteristics of idle etc but will not fix a mechanical issue.
Do you have a problem with your engine?
Thank you very much for your reply. Kinda I do, on some occasions I do get inconsistent idle like fluctuations from 780 rpm as normal, to 750 rpm - 810 rpm.. when I turn the AC on or some bigger electric consumer this problem disappears. Kinda awkward. Thanks again mate!
@@nenOOOOOOOO engine when idling will enter smooth running control to try and balance cylinder pressure for smoother idle, as soon as AC or Alternator are called this mode will exit, so might just be some instability around this.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Thanks mate... Already did alternator pulley, new aux belt and new belt tensioner... Didnt touch the AC though.. maybe next. Keep up the good work, and all the best!!!
Do you know why I do not have in VCDS this function IDE06141? I have the same CAYC engine in Golf, UDS, I’m using VCDS version 20 and I don’t have it. I have the same problem in injector number 3, but can’t do this adaptation. Thanks for help.
That is strange - Upgrade to latest version of VCDS and double check it should be there in Basic Settings
Thanks so much, i ll try this tomorrow, i was stuck in the infinite loop.
Hello, everything worked well on my 1.6tdi cayc, duration: 20 min, after that engine sound and behaviour became very good, motor health is back. Thank you so much. Do you have other procedures like this one to improve other things ?
Hi, I am stuck in the infinate loop. I did everything word for word about 5, also looked at part 2 and still stuck in a loop. Was there anything different that you did?@@GEO-42
@@ohsasho5865 it's not infinite, it can take long, just be patient. It took more than 20 min on my car. How long did you wait ?
@@GEO-42 About 75 mins and still nothing
There is a follow up video after this one on this channel about the infinite loop. It's an issue with vcds, you should watch it. Basically when engine is started and vcds working, you should navigate in vcds, read some random values and THEN try the adaptation after entering the security code.
I'm trying to adapt used injectors on a 2.0 cr tdi amarok 90kw but vcds only changed the inj 1 code, others keep saying out of range, am I missing something?
Hey! with used injectors you have no way of knowing how worn they are, if they have excessive leak-off the deviations will be high.
Do you have to do the minimum quantity injector setting?
Did all the steps on the video exactly, but the IDE06141 Adapting injector option isn’t in my list?! 2010 1.6TDI Skoda CAYC engine… any idea why it wouldn’t be there?
I have seen some early software revisions on Skodas did not have it for some reason? had on and octavia myself also.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Thanks for the reply. That’s a shame.
Do this injectors need programming in the audi 1.6 tdi kayc??
Hi Richard, do you mean CAYC engine? Yes all modern common rail diesel injectors generally need to have their offset codes assigned in the factory programmed.
I have a problem with my ibiza 1.6tdi 105hp, when i start the engine in the morning there is a loud sound, clicking, engine vibrating and a white smoke coming out. And after it is warm it sounds good.
Is there any solution? Or I should change the injectors?
Thanks!
Hi @NotBAD The symptoms you describe could point to many things but a more detailed assessment is required.
Do you have any Engine fault codes active? If the engine is performing normally when warm I certainly would not replace Injectors unless they are obviously defective.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 hey, thanks for the reply, really appreciated.
I havo no engine faults and this happens only once a day in the morning when the engine is cold.. when it's warm it runs like a clock, a friend told me to put some oil+gasoline in the tank, it may help the injectors clean...
Thanks again.
@NotBAD Please do NOT put petrol/gasoline into a diesel engine! your common rail pump relies on Diesel fuel for lubrication and the solvent action of gasoline will dramatically reduce the lubricity of the fuel causing complete injection system failure.
Check you alternator over-run pulley it may be seized causing the loud sound when the engine is cold.
Have the same symptoms on 3.0bitdi, have you sorted it out?
Hi can you please help me I change the speed limiters it was at 190 km I was just messing around. I change it to two hundred km so for some reason when I press do it it kept going back to 50km now I have smoke bellowing out of tail pipe and it’s running like a pig and there’s was smoke coming out from under the bonnet I was afraid to look. Can you please help me my head is all messed up i know I did something really bad to the engine have you any ideas please help
hello i have prb with my mk 6 1.6 tdi 105 ps, i change the new injector i coded. but i cant start the procedure for adaptation the quantity injector can you help mee?
I have try on my golf and it started all good but it was going more then 15 min is there any problem when is going that long or it should be like that
To long takes approx 2 mins before it starts revving itself follow the power cycle procedure exactly to enter.
So if is go more then 5 min i should stop it ?
And try again
@Alex Alex the procedure with vcds is very specific to the continental eng management system, remember vcds is a odis emulator not perfect.
Power down fully and enter exactly as i did in part 2 video
Thanks for your help i will try again tomorrow
Could this damage the engine in any way?
is that security code for all VW consern the same ? or its different my VCDS isn't showing the password.
Different depending on the platforms and engine management.
Some don't have any.
Do i need to Press Go or Not to see the press Pedal sequence?
hallo man i have problem after this procedur i dont make correct and now engine start whit allot off smoke and after 1 min shut down i cannot give acceleration nothing, before this happen everything was fine, any solution pls
after the injector repair, do I just have to enter new codes or do the adaptation?
The codes need to be entered first, that is compulsory. You can run the minimum adaption quantity after if you like to baseline the pilot injection.
Hi. I have tried to swap the faulty solenoid of an injektor on a cayc engine. Engine runs , but ruff and knocks under load. Tried to put in the new solenoid code but got a error
( Adaptation Error
This appears to be an uninitialized control module;
valid WSC/Importer/Equipment data may be required.
Click [Yes] for VCDS to use default values of 12345/123/12345.
Click [No] for VCDS to try the values currently in the module.
Click [Cancel] to go back and manually edit the values.
Have tried to do this minimum deviation correction in vcds. Do I need the solenoid code to be correct?
After replacing an Injector firstly programme the injector compensation code.
After this has been successful perform the quantity adaption.
Click yes to valid importor code it can't be set to 0.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 got it to take the new code and did the minimum deviation program. Engine runs at boost but shackes and knocks badly under load before boost comes in. When I took the top of one injector and put it on the old one I had it must have been totally wrong?
@@kjelljohannessen8827 trying to repair these injectors yourself without specialist equipment is not advised, I'm pretty sure continental / VDO use shims to calibrate the piezo stack.
You need a reconditioned or new injector.
Be careful because a badly over fuelled cylinder will put a hole in a piston.
Can I do this if my car has remap stage 1 dpf/egr off?
The remap should not affect the calibration algorithms in the original codeing if done properly so I don't see why not.
Swirlflaps are not on every cayc engine. mine doesn't have the flaps
yes the CAYB & CAYD dont have them and they were discontinued in the CAYC
i have a seat ibiza 1.6 tdi cayb 2013. the car has costum ecu flash, i had to replace the #3 injector and now i have jerking. my mechanic said i have to perform an ide6140 but not sure if it can be done with modded ecu map. do you know if i can?
Did you replace with a new injector and code the compensation code?
If so the procedure should work as intended.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 i replaced the injector with a refurbised one that was tested before for proper fuction and it passed the test from a very trusted person. i then passed the new compensation code. i yet have to do the ide6140. so i will procced once the costum ecu rom will not stop the proccedure
@@papakolos the custom map should have no effect on the calibration process, the tuner will have updated various parameter quantities but not algorithmic functionality of basic setting procedures (calibration functionality).
In any case the software will overtime automatically compensate when smooth running compensation is implemented during idle mode.
The critical parameter is that the injector has been coded so the software knows its been replaced.
What should the injector minimum deviation quantity be? What's the 'in spec' amount please?
Close to 0.00
I've followed this to the letter. I have cayc engine also. All that happens is the glow plug light flashes forever. No throttle blips or nothing. Just idles. Vcds says running
Its in an Infinite loop when that happens - Usually caused by not entering security access only after an ECU power cycle as outlined.
But if you have done that correct I am unsure?
Reports that non genuine VCDS interfaces can be troublesome also.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 yes I definitely did it correct. I also have genuine cable and software. Im stumped. After I tried this several times I tried to drive the car and its was terrible, clouds of smoke, injector 2 and 4 was pegged at 5mg/stroke vs 1 and 3 - 5mg/stroke to compensate.
I left it for 2 hrs and restarted back to normal issue with it being a bit lumpy and injector 4 is 1. 5 to 2mg/stroke and 1 2 3 are trying to compensate, not so much 2.
So I don't know what to do now. I have no codes.
@@LAW-fv6ys Hi @LAW what year is this 1.6 CAYC also why did you initally decide to run the routine (lumpy idle?) if you have clouds of smoke it is not because of the routine, it only compensates to achieve balanced smooth idle, smoke is due to damaged injector, turbo damage etc.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 2010.
I didn't have clouds of smoke until after failed adaptions attempts.
The original fault was just rough idle when cold.
I think the real issue is leaking copper washer seal on injector 2 and 4. Hence worse when cold and also when you drive it it will knock more and feel under powered.
@@LAW-fv6ys I see, that''s strange as the compensation amount is small can create knock but should not be able to over fuel enough to create smoke especially on a car with a DPF.
If injector copper seals are bad there is a vent hole for each cylinder close to the exhaust manifold bolt, there should be oil escaping there.
I dont know why the routine wont work for you, I presume the ECU was never mapped?
Have done this many times on 1.6 continental/siemens ECU's only did the video to highlight the problem you are having, which is caused by not power cycling the ECU before entering security access.
Same for 2.0 engines?
I have fitted 4 brand new injectors to my audi a3 cffb 2.0 tdi and coded the injectors in. Should I do a minimum quantity adaptation too?
This is a bosch ECU it has its own fuel adaptation routines, the video is for the CAY 1.6 Siemens/CONTINENTAL ECU.
Short answer is yes if the routine is available in VCDS
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 it sounds abit knockey and loud like the injectors are faulty. So it can be done on bosche injectors or only on Siemens?
@@Liveforeever did you code injectors correctly? New injectors must be coded as the ECU also compensates for mileage.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 yes I entered the codes from top of the injectors which I bought from GSF. Engines done 186k and fitted them upon full rebuild but only done 1 mile since as I'm getting p256300 and P00AF00. I had zero turbo problems before engine was rebuilt.
@@Liveforeever why was it rebuilt? P2563 could be the diaphragm in the turbo actuator damaged or as you say poorly built turbo, strange. Focus on fixing these before worring about injectors.
Did any smoke come from behind engine whilst running rough?
Shouldn't be any black smoke from any car with a DPF really, if its blue smoke could be oil /turbo issue.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 when I unplug the injector the smoke went away.
@@shanebaggley4167 Is the engine running rough? Diesel knock etc, what was the reason for running the injector adaptation? Disconnecting an Injector while running is not recommended. Does the ecu have any codes etc?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 this was after changing a faulty Injector for second hand before the quantity adaption. Seemed to be smoke coming from behind the engine when running rough.
@@shanebaggley4167 second hand injectors can have very high leak off rates from wear, so lots of smoke could be due to overfueling, adaption will not cure wear.
great video.
where are you based? think i need your services
Glad you liked the video, I'm in Ireland 🇮🇪
Hi, I tried this and it just stays running and does not complete even after well over an hour. Is there any reason why it wont complete?
I did select the inj deviation minimum quantity while the car was off at first thinking it would do anything but am now left with ending knocking under any bit of load.
Original issue was intermittent rough idle on cold start up and the odd time engone knoecking on take off even after 15 min of driving. Figured Id try this but am worse off now....any help please as I need car in two days time for work.
Mk 6 Golf TDI 2012 Thanks.
Hi there, did you check the injection quantity offsets first? If one injector deviates significantly it would be worth doing a leak off test.
Also is your DMF ok?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 No I dont think I checked injection quantity offsets. I remeber looking at mg/stroke ( Not sure name of this on VCDS.) and Inj 1 was running higher than the others.
DMF is fine, the odd time in the cold on cold at startup it can cause bit of shudder on first 5 - 10 miles but perfect then after.
Can you explain leak off test? How to do it?
Hi again, I am still trying to find out why the Injector deviation quantity procedure does not complete on my car 1.6 tdi CAYC? I seen across other boards similar issues with it not completing that no one can answer it, just dead end threads all over and its very important to find out why as it left my car knocking terribly when i tried this inj deviation quantity procedure on VCDS. Please can anyone for the love of god give a proper accurate answer. Is there a way to undo what I did, resetting inj dev quantity offsets in VCDS. I even emailed Ross tech, people behind VCDS and nothing either. Frustrated ....Thanks
@@johnogorman2920 Hi John, Yes there is a way to undo this, quite simply the procedure to run this algorithm is convoluted because quite frankly VCDS are not VW AG - they are reverse engineering the software (which is excellent) and don't have access to the nuances.
In any case this particular sub-routine in the 1.6tdi Siemens / Conti engine management does require security access and the problem lies in how this access is established.
Start by bringing engine to operating temp and ensuring and ensuring no active codes present.
Now EXIT from VCDS switch of engine and take out key WAIT until all throttle body etc PWM hum stops AT LEAST 20 SECONDS.
Start engine and idle, establish communication with ECU go straight to security access and apply offered code DO IT
STRAIGHT to Basic settings and select IDE06141 select run - BRAKES & CLUTCH - release - Floor throttle - release as instructed.
You know its wrong if it revs to approx 2800 rpm and stays there.
Correct operation is revs to 2000rpm then 10 runs through the rev range 3 to 4 times takes 5 - 8 mins.
It WILL NOT WORK if you navigate to security access after running engine for awhile and checking fault codes ete - security access MUST be established by full power down and initial comunication.
I did this twice on a 2010 golf & 2014 Caddy this week.
Hope this sorts you out.
I deliberately did it wrong the first time and is did leave a noticeable knock until I ran it again correctly ! let me know how you get on.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 I did what you said, no fault code but the result was that glow plug light was blinkinking and idle stayed at 800rpm, no change. Does the sw version of the car make difference?
Does anyone know if IDE06141 will only work if a certain ECU software is loaded?
As my ECU has 2010 software version 8831,my minimum quantity adaption failed to work.
I have NOT had the EA 189 fix done to my Golf Mk6
I did this and it failed for me.
Do you know what ecu software version you had when the test failed?@@ohsasho5865
@@ohsasho5865 Hi, so looks like we are in the same boat with this adjustment of the injectors.
Please may l ask do you know what your engine ECU version you are at.
This is shown in the VCDS scan of the ECU.
hi , why in vcds I do not have the option to do injection quantity deviation test for cylinders ?
Some early CAY engines don't seem to have it in the software rev. Have definitely seen a few skodas that don't have the option.
Most likely the ECU will adapt over time in any case.
Big thanks for the video! Can i send my values to some email or something? Im lookin for advice. Thank you again
Hi @hanzo_hasashi420 post away! whats your problem?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 i have 1.6 tdi golf 6 cayc. On cold start in the morning i have rough idle sometimes but after few minutes it gets normal. When engine is hot, at 90 C, i have that knocking sound arround 1500 and 2000rpm when accelerating. It does not effect my ride, but it is very annoying. Tomorrow i will have exact values of injectorts to see if there is some large deviations. Im wondering do i need to change injectors (one or more) or it can be repaired with adoption
@@pochinki420 Hey, well being honest adaption does not fix knocking really - check your values regarding compensation values, how many Km's on the engine and flywheel ?
knocking under acceleration is most likely over fueling from a worn nozzle.
I cant stress how much people need to consider the complete drive train, including flywheel and engine mountings.
I assume no codes are present atm.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 im at 220.000km, no fault codes, and flywheel is at good condition. I will post values tomorrow, just to hear your opinion
I replaced an injector, put in the code supplied and took car out for road test. Engine had vibration between 1k - 2k rpm. Checked the deviation quantities and the the injector I replaced had a value of +2 but the others had -0.6... Ran the deviation adaption, took around 5 minutes to complete. Checked values again and all within tolerance of each other. Roadtested again, no hesitating just smooth as butter!
Well just had the RAC out to my 2009 VW Golf Mk 6 1.6 tdi cayc, flashing glow plug on dash running on 3 cylinders whilst far from home on holiday.
RAC took approx 25 min to change number 1 injector after P0201 code found open circuit. The cast was £600.00 to change this injector Continental brand P/N= A2C9626040080 or 03L130277S.
So l guess l now need to see how all 4 injector minimum quantity's are balanced after watching this very informative video.
The brand new Continental injectors can be bought for approx £330.00, how the hell do RAC which is suppose to fit items for tree justify the £600.00 charge?
Highway robbery in my opinion total scam
New injector, copper seal, o ring and stretch bolt about €350 new here in Ireland. Usually those injectors pull out easily so that price seems crazy tbh. Did they code the new injector?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi, Yes l watched him code the new injector from the code on the top of the injector cap
@colin5064 you should be good to go, the ecu will compensate itself over the next 100kms only run the routine if you have a noticeable instability at idle.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi,
thank you for the information update most appreciated. Your videos are a great resource of professional knowledge and experience.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi, please may l ask in your experience with these injectors. If number 1 has failed at 56,201 miles are the other three likely to fail soon or have l just been unlucky to have number 1 fail at such a low mileage.
I bought this Golf 1.6 tdi cayc new so l know its entire history. Any advice would be most appreciated, but not looking to waste money unnecessarily
very informative
Can’t find this option in VCDS 21.9
Any advice would be appreciated.
Hi Moto, what engine are you communicating with ?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi, cheers for your reply.
It's a 2009 Golf 1.6tdi CAYC engine. 2 Injectors replaced with recon units, coded in with VCDS and engine now runs lumpy at idle.
@MotoHighlands Is your VCDS the latest Revision I'm currently using V21.9
Also what is the Software code when you log into engine screen i.e. 1.6 R4CR Hxx xxxx
Its possible that this was not available on early software versions - There may be an option to "Reset learned values of quantity adaption" this will reset the offsets for smooth running idle control.
Dont this to my ibiza runs good but now misses when driveing with never did before 😊
I’ve tried the minimum injector deviation, when I had the original injectors, the vehicle performed the cycle in 5 mins. I changed the injector and now this is taking over 50 mins and isn’t finishing the process. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Hi @fez14 I have made another video to hopefully clear this up th-cam.com/video/uK7zuUVclJ8/w-d-xo.html
I dont fint the injektor minimum deviation in my vcds. that option isent there
Hello, I tried doing this with OBDEleven and it won’t work, any help? Anyone else done it with OBDEleven
Does this also apply to CLHA engines?
Because I can not find the adaptation IDE
My friend when i tried this on my jetta 2011 1.6 tdi when i pressed the gas pedal it didnt start but the blinker was blinking
Hi watch my part 2 video for explanation
I don’t have that option to reset on audi 2.0 tdi 😢
Hi there I have rought idle at cold dtart with my 2011 VW Jetta 1.6 tdi, engine code CAYC. Also engine has click sound under acceleration. I send all injectors 2 times for repair and cleaning and the injector tester show normal values for them. I try to do adaptation. Process starts , revs go up and down but it never ends. 30 minutes and still continue. What can I do ?
Check out my updated video @Eldi hope it helps you. th-cam.com/video/uK7zuUVclJ8/w-d-xo.html
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 thanks so much. I really appreciate it and I can’t thank you enough. I just wanna ask , mine lasted at least 20 or 25 minutes and VCDS said timeout, does it finished correctly? Cuz car is running really bad and I can hear injectors when I am driving. Also when I check values, 2 injectors have negative values around -1.4 and the other 2 have positive values around 0.5
If the code is 6 digit, i must add 0 at the end to make it 7 like your code?
Well spotted! I actually thought all siemens/CONTINENTAL injectors were 6 digit. Perhaps the ECU is putting in the 0 to fill the null placeholder. Generally the 2.0tdi with bosch use a 7 digit.
In any case just put in your 6 digit code.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 after doing that and adjust the injector quantity, the values are at 90°:
1. 0.7180
2.-0.3177
3.-0.6425
4.0.4697
Are the values okay?
@@costash2 what is the history of the car? What car, engine code and what did you do? Did you change 1 injector or 4 and why? Also did you code and run the balancing adaptation?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 i changed injector 3, the car is golf 6 1.6 cayc with 284k.
And i enter the code and balanced
Hi mate I’m on 21.3.0 and in basic settings it isn’t on my list same car golf 1.6 tdi 2010 any ideas thanks
Update to 22.3.1 but in any case if your on a CAYC engine it should be there ive deffo done lots of 2011's
Thanks for fast reply it’s a clone but think I will have to buy genuine one fitted refurbished set to are ok but 2 of them are in plus 2 lumpy on tick over and diesel knock to about 1500 rpm under load then fine
@@andystewart7086 you fitted referbished injectors? If done by a diesel specialist they should be perfect, make sure you code the compensation codes first. Probably need the genuine interface for that I'd imagine.
Bought them off eBay sending them back as in 2 plus making my car white smoke compression test all cylinders 25 bar bought vagcom should be here by Wednesday cheers
@@andystewart7086 wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/2.0L_CR_TDI#Adaptation
Just make sure you perform this in the Adaptation first - The ECU compensates for mileage so if you put in new injectors you will get over fueling & diesel knock.
i didnt replace any injector but i do have a rough idle when hot. do you think it would hurt to try this?
Check the injector compensation values for large deviations first.
Also be aware that when idling a cylinder balancing algorithm runs to smoothen out idle, a worn flywheel will cause this to constantly try to balance the torsional oscillations from the flywhee so check also.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 ok. Thanks a lot for your help.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 I replaced all 4 injectors with refurbished. Adapted, but injectors compensation values are big. 1st and 4th over +1 and 2nd and 3rd under -1. What is the problem?
@@ViKi-ox2rl Hi, did you code the new compensation codes first before running the balancing routine.
I did the adaptation and for now, after a week, the car is smooth as silk at idle at any temperature. I'm not embarrassed anymore at traffic lights. Ahah. Thanks.
Hello bro thanks for the video .. I have vw vento 2012 1.6 TDI engine have injector failure and replaced 3 injectors with 2 new and 1 used injectors one by one in 6 months after replacing 3rd injector (used injector) my engine performance has dropped and my mileage and pickup is very low, actually after replacing 3rd used injector with in a day again that 3rd injector got failed so have went to the service station and asked for 3rd one the service person did something in laptop for half an hour tha faulty injector gets adopted to it and fill date no failure in injectors but after that am only no pick and no milage my engine noice has changes pls help me out with this bro i want my previous performance back.. (also of I tell this story to any of my seicive person they all are checking in software and telling there is no fault code showing so ur injectors are working fine no need to clean or change the injector yet seams) thanks in advance 🙏🙏🙏
Hi Saravana, did your injectors fail electrically, did the piezo pack fail. Do you know what fault codes were present? How many KM's are on the engine?
It is important to know if the injectors failed due to wear or electrical failure.
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi Thank q so much for u reply, Yes my injectors failed electrically (solenoid), have not notice what fault code were reflected, now my ODO is 114000km and have faced injector failure at around 80000kms,
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Thank q for u reply bro 🤗🤗🤗
Very low mileage for failure! you should check the injector offsets first - the new injectors may be different from the used one. Very strange that 3 injectors failed piezo stack so quickly.
The used injector may have a lot of milage on it - when coded the ECU thinks its new, did you run IDE06141 to balance?
@@enginemanagementadventures7305 Hi bro how to check injector offsets?? the used injector may have lot of mileage la bro so if i replace it with new means everything will be okay??? and don't no exactly whether my service person did IDE06141 to balance my injector or not, but he took hardly 15 to 20 mins to arrest the fault code. and bro how to contact you can u share ur mail id for further TIA
hi pal
were abouts are you
I'm in Cork Ireland 🇮🇪!
I have automatic there no clutch what the alternative
Does anyone know if you can do this on an Autel? Mp808
Takes long time to complete - injector deviation 30min plus
Hi bro u there waiting for your reply