The Deprogram Episode 4 - The Limits of Capitalism

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  • @punksk8a29
    @punksk8a29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    Hakim should make a TH-cam episode where he just rates English idioms. Lol foot the bill killed me.

  • @troywalkertheprogressivean8433
    @troywalkertheprogressivean8433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Privatizing profits, socializing losses.
    Pure and simple.

  • @charlesvalentine9638
    @charlesvalentine9638 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The CIA uses a laser pointer to distract Yugopnik.

  • @troywalkertheprogressivean8433
    @troywalkertheprogressivean8433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

    I like how the endgame of capitalism leaves the majority poor and or dead but it's so great. 😃👍

    • @eestimarksist
      @eestimarksist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      But Daddy Jeff's proffiiiitsss 😔 it must be great!!11!!

    • @troywalkertheprogressivean8433
      @troywalkertheprogressivean8433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@eestimarksist muh profits! 😆

    • @bgiv2010
      @bgiv2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed but that assumes they even thought all the way through to an endgame. This feels like more of a hustle than a con.

    • @troywalkertheprogressivean8433
      @troywalkertheprogressivean8433 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bgiv2010
      th-cam.com/video/SFzMs2SN--s/w-d-xo.html

    • @PoppoYoppo
      @PoppoYoppo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This comment reminds me of JTs video on automation. If we reach full automation in our capitalist society, at the end of the day we'll all be jobless and dying and the capitalists will have no customers

  • @superbeltman6197
    @superbeltman6197 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    2:17 "I might as well try some chicken shit"
    - Yugopnik, 2023

  • @rinkelitar1781
    @rinkelitar1781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +159

    Binging on these currently, so happy that they are here on yt too

  • @arwinwest2505
    @arwinwest2505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    17:13 On the problem of surplus overproduction
    25:27 No irrationality when the rationality is profit and growth in exchange for pollution, suffering and death
    35:31 Advertisement for millions of brands for one commodity rant
    40:23 Planned obsolence (frequent planned failure and breaking of commodities so people will have to repeatedly fix often or buy more of it with more monry spent) during monopoly stage of capitalism

    • @avigailpekelman8239
      @avigailpekelman8239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thank you

    • @arwinwest2505
      @arwinwest2505 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@avigailpekelman8239 Thank you for your thank you, I actually did it for myself so its surprising someone thought these clips were helpful. You're welcome.

  • @Tristyn_Waterman
    @Tristyn_Waterman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    This podcast is amazing, you all have unique backgrounds and perspectives, and at the same time, your personalities, banter, and dynamic are extremely entertaining and funny

  • @bgiv2010
    @bgiv2010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    We are heading towards an ad-supported, subscription-based, data-harvesting future and we voted for it with our dollars.

  • @djungelskog3434
    @djungelskog3434 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the rising tide raises all boats, but not everyone has a mega yacht to retreat to when it does lol

  • @naberville3305
    @naberville3305 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Talking about the reserve army of labor just made me kinda realize that I personally have been replaced by a homeless person before at work. A small restaurant I was working at hired a homeless guy, paid him half as much as me, had him move in with another co-worker, and then fired me 2 weeks later after he was all trained up. Dude was so grateful to have a job and be off the streets and worked super hard and so willing to kiss the hand who fed him.
    It's so exploitative yet there's no way you can really even denounce or combat it because at the end of the day it's an objectively good thing that this poor man was able to get off the streets.

    • @CraigKeidel
      @CraigKeidel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Counterpoint: the system punished you with the threat of homelessness (joblessness) because you dared require a higher wage. Replacing workers with cheaper workers is a way to beat the working class into submission.

    • @CraigKeidel
      @CraigKeidel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So it was not objectively good, as paid wages to the working class saw a net decrease while the employment pool was net unchanged, a job for a job with less cost to the capitalist. Be mad, just be mad at the business owner not the homeless guy.

  • @untraceablefgc-9mkii251
    @untraceablefgc-9mkii251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I already listened all episodes on Spotify, i shall commet for the algorithm!

    • @Ghdfshhs
      @Ghdfshhs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Obligatory algorithm reply

    • @iamnohere
      @iamnohere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ALGORHITHM

  • @ThePhatFilosopher
    @ThePhatFilosopher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Ya I’m really gunna have to listen to all these before they’re struck off the internet forever.

  • @Naheed_Ahmed14
    @Naheed_Ahmed14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Mashallah daddy The Deprogram has uploaded.

    • @lopez.jacinto.6726
      @lopez.jacinto.6726 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What does Mashallah mean?

    • @severdislike4222
      @severdislike4222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@lopez.jacinto.6726 Mashallah (Arabic: مَا شَاءَ ٱللَّٰهُ, mā shāʾa -llāhu), also written Masha'Allah or Masya Allah (Malaysia and Indonesia), is an Arabic phrase that is used to express a feeling of awe or beauty regarding an event or person that was just mentioned.

    • @lotoreo
      @lotoreo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@severdislike4222 "God has willed it" I think it means

  • @michelromero7671
    @michelromero7671 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The episode is just 30 mins if we remove all the Hakim's "F#K!NG", hahaha.

  • @dead4head294
    @dead4head294 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This podcast is literally me, everytime I get drunk and complain about capitalism. Almost word for word the same rants 😂

  • @jansecj9472
    @jansecj9472 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The dumping of perfectly fine products is probably the most crystal clear example of how capitalism is irrational. Great ep.

  • @remicaron3191
    @remicaron3191 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Catnip it’s weed for cats. Weed is what humans. lol

  • @krybling
    @krybling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    im so high i been thinking about zizek eating hotdog for 10 min

    • @lotoreo
      @lotoreo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yo that's some good weed

    • @krybling
      @krybling ปีที่แล้ว

      also one year later i am thinking about if he would eat the hotdog differently or the same

  • @YodamanOb704
    @YodamanOb704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The Nutella take, killed me! Keep up the great work, fighting the good fight.

  • @njorrofvanirv4721
    @njorrofvanirv4721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    God I love what you guys are doing! And you lads are doing a great job at it, feels like I'm just chilling with some friends listening to good conversation.

  • @Abuda7amHD
    @Abuda7amHD 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    35:26 Arabic translation: "My beloved, enough! What is this!?"

  • @charlesvalentine9638
    @charlesvalentine9638 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    JT puts out a youtube show that's family friendly, The Deprogram with all the content minus all the dark humor about sex, race and body horror. It has muppets and is 10 minutes long.

  • @Gnarnak
    @Gnarnak ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That rant about advertising was great, exactly my feelings! And I luckily only spent about 2 years in that industry.

  • @tkdyo
    @tkdyo ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Im currently getting an MBA and I felt that discussion about advertising in my bones. It was so painful sitting through a whole semester of the professor spinning how advertising works as a good thing.

  • @itsukizy
    @itsukizy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    yugopnik is so funny lmao

  • @samrowe8752
    @samrowe8752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I heckin love the Deprogram pod

  • @emmasilver2332
    @emmasilver2332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love advertisements...when I can laugh at how ridiculous they are.

    • @CraigKeidel
      @CraigKeidel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My wife and I like to chuckle at how all the new meds coming out sound like Gen Z slang.

  • @automaton111
    @automaton111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reason why we have so many brands of the same product is because there are not enough ways to make a living under capitalism. There are not enough good paying jobs to go around under capitalism. It’s very costly to come up with a truly unique product and get it commercially produced profitably. People rack their brains trying to figure out how to survive. The same thing goes for services. It’s a dog eat dog world and people need to do whatever they can to differentiate themselves to survive. Even if that differentiation is small or not what it’s promised to be. This can lead to things like roadside snake oil salesmen. Even workers seek to differentiate themselves from others who can essentially do the same things.

  • @emanuelneagu14
    @emanuelneagu14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    30:06 it's funny that "footed" would be an English-ed derivation of "fucked" in Romanian AND "fucked" would actually fit into the context as replacement.

  • @HollyOak
    @HollyOak ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In 1970s Exxon new what was going to happen over the next 50+ years and buried the report because of profits. Isn't that the perfect example of capitalism?

  • @bamr1318
    @bamr1318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    43:00
    I absolutely *despise* this
    I even say things to my mom like "you should switch brands (from Apple), that s**t is made to break"
    Also their charger things I could go on for another paragraph but I'll leave it at that
    One of the only times I *really* think about the Good Old Days

    • @emanuelneagu14
      @emanuelneagu14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there's a lot of good Xiaomi ones or even cheaper Samsungs that are worth the money for 2-3 years that they last. Too bad they can't make ones that actually fkin last. But one day

  • @elijahhowe6280
    @elijahhowe6280 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Let’s get these videos trending!!

  • @fonroo0000
    @fonroo0000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I died at the blackface joke

  • @GerinoMorn
    @GerinoMorn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are two herbs cats like: catnip and valerian. Valerian is slightly hypnotic, relaxing etc. in humans. Prob the latter you got xD

  • @etiennecurtaz5755
    @etiennecurtaz5755 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This commenti Is for the algorythm.

  • @F_imperialists
    @F_imperialists 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Still looking for the title of the theme.

  • @LittleHerdaz
    @LittleHerdaz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the HBomberguy reference 😂❤

  • @blondezeke6640
    @blondezeke6640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Don't worry Yugopnik I'll be the token black worker at your work am also a quart indian so I am basically a double minority lol

  • @potterinhe11
    @potterinhe11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How DARE you debase that brown, succulent, sausy substance that is Nutella by wasting it on your ugly mug!?!?

  • @johnphillips5993
    @johnphillips5993 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The planned obsolescence thing is so important. I would almost argue that the system of consumerism is built on theft. Capitalists will try to sell you shitty products that break in a month or a year, with the sole purpose that you keep buying them. There are of course exceptions (like video game consoles, my Wii from 2007 still works), but deep down the only people who benefit from consumerism are the capitalist class. And I haven’t even mentioned the alienating aspects of the shallow, toxic culture built around consumerism. Like in 7th and 8th grade when I was into cartoons and video games from the 1990s and 2000s (and increasingly interested in classical music), my fellow classmates were talking about x newest brand of shoes, like Nikes and Jordans, and it fucking alienated me.

  • @colonel__klink7548
    @colonel__klink7548 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As you can tell I like listening to the podcast as it always makes me think! Hakim's point about "infinite growth on a finite planet" really got me to think... He's arguing for entropy. The opposite of progress. Not a falling back and collapse, no just a halt to growth (anti progress) and staying at an ideal place forever because the planet is finite. It really fits into this theory I have that the difference between monarchist reactionaries and Marxists is the reactionaries ideal entropic state was in the past, and the Marxists believe apparently the idealized entropic eternal system has yet to come! They want the same thing, just different ideas of where that thing is.

  • @user-sg2el6ey2k
    @user-sg2el6ey2k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Food for thought: if I comment on this video to support it because the algorithm supposedly favors videos with more comments, would it mean indirectly subscribing to the idea of a "free markeet", of which the algorithm is supposed to be a microcosm, fostering "fair" competition for the limited ampount of views and all, whilst ignoring that the actual, ultimate moving force is not the algorithm-based competition but, rather, the wishes of the people who have ordered it to be crafted?..

  • @falkorornothing261
    @falkorornothing261 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you're looking for big trucks come to Hawaii. You can drive your Prius underneath them. Plus you can grow your own bananas, which is the best banana. They also go lovely with nutella. 😁

  • @zeit.flaeche
    @zeit.flaeche ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am greatly disappointed in the botanical misinformation Hakim is spouting out here! Catnip (Nepeta cataria) is in the family of Lamiaceae - so it's about as closely related to a grass as Capitalism is to fairness.

  • @botchedmandala5197
    @botchedmandala5197 ปีที่แล้ว

    Degrowth isn't individualist at all btw, quite a few marxist degrowthers - of course there are some numpties in there who think its compatible with capitalism (Herman Daly etc) but theyre a minority - most realise degrowth must involve overcoming capitalism, to consume less is to crash it, so it cant be done inside the system. But glad you guys are talking about it. And really enjoying these, dunno why i put them off so long :)

  • @freshbornmute2752
    @freshbornmute2752 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ''Cockroach smoothie'' XD

  • @iamnohere
    @iamnohere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I: I´m bad at distinguishimg between y´all´s voices at times, so I don´t remember who said it, but whoever did, the "even a blid guy with two chromozomes could figure it out" "joke" was uncalled-for. Y´all are doing an amazing job with this podcast, but please be more mindful about your jokes next time. (Perhaps you _have_ been more mindful from the next episode on; I guess I´ll find out soon)

  • @Orrphoiz
    @Orrphoiz ปีที่แล้ว

    Catnip can also be grown yourself quite easily c:

  • @eldizo_
    @eldizo_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding advertising, The Century of the Self is a great watch. Last part is kind of trash but it's solid all-around.

  • @samtalksaboutlife464
    @samtalksaboutlife464 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The next one is going to be worse then the great Depression

  • @briancordry8165
    @briancordry8165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    white guy in the midwest checking in... i'm HIGHLY offended

  • @typical_name8682
    @typical_name8682 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    30:50 - Sure there is, the Smart ForTwo is one of the coolest cars around! ... It's also not very popular because it kind of sucks and it's mileage isn't even good despite it's small size. The electric version is better but has too short of a range for most US car uses. :(

  • @IkomaTanomori
    @IkomaTanomori ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perpetual employment is a positive? Nooooooooooooooo. No. It's a mistake. I mean I hate being unemployed because I'm forced to need money to live but maybe there's good reasons not to have everyone work all the time either. Maybe survival shouldn't be tied to labor. Consider: the elderly, the very young, the disabled.

  • @pyryko
    @pyryko ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is Yugopnik a cat or is he a baby chicken?

  • @ShehuStebe
    @ShehuStebe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Umm Kulthum in the background and all

  • @neurosurgeonatwork8334
    @neurosurgeonatwork8334 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @NK-ge7qk
    @NK-ge7qk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    39:43 30:10 30:19

  • @Jace_AuVin
    @Jace_AuVin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But what's worse Hakim, English or French?

  • @samtalksaboutlife464
    @samtalksaboutlife464 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean i love the deprogram, but sometimes how they talk and i know it is mostly sarcastiv, but the future seems hopeless when they talk

  • @nicholascharles9625
    @nicholascharles9625 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hakim just put on an Australian accent. You can swear as much as you want as an Australian.

  • @Rawr_0w0
    @Rawr_0w0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My russian sapogis have lasted me 3 years now amd where made in the 60s lol I only had tp change the soles. I wasnt alive in the 60s lol

  • @lijahv8586
    @lijahv8586 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the algorithm 👄

  • @krybling
    @krybling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wut wut

  • @garyfookins9968
    @garyfookins9968 ปีที่แล้ว

    yt algo punch

  • @LongshanMusic
    @LongshanMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ren-NO
    lol

  • @HallyVee
    @HallyVee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol omg Nutella blackface wow

  • @JumpsyTurvy
    @JumpsyTurvy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This comment is going to consist entirely of filler text in order to influence the algorithm toward your videos, if you continue to read this text you will surely be wasting your time as sure as I don't need to keep typing. I think the word count on comments isn't weighted, but incase it is I'm ongoing with this comment. The Comment. The Comment for the video. The comment specifically meant for this video.

  • @leonardodavinci7524
    @leonardodavinci7524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For algo

    • @avigailpekelman8239
      @avigailpekelman8239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who?

    • @avigailpekelman8239
      @avigailpekelman8239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who?

    • @emanuelneagu14
      @emanuelneagu14 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@avigailpekelman8239 TH-cam algorithm. When you comment, the algorithm counts it as interaction and it helps the channel.

  • @pootisengage6672
    @pootisengage6672 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a nice episode! Keep it up!

  • @xibucksgrindset6379
    @xibucksgrindset6379 ปีที่แล้ว

    algorithm

  • @AJ-lo5dr
    @AJ-lo5dr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    also if you are doing blackface with something as light brown as nutella then you are a ridiculous individual
    🤕

  • @Landofjello
    @Landofjello 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's funny how they'd make fun of capitalists for not understanding socialism/communism, and then go on to demonstrate their complete ignorance in capitalism lmao

    • @Stupididiot67
      @Stupididiot67 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      if marx was right about anything it was all the shit he wrote about capitalism

  • @HakimButSouthAfrican
    @HakimButSouthAfrican 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😂😂😂😂Yugopnik going to work in black face is so funny oh my god 😂😂😂

  • @danku-chan
    @danku-chan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    catboy yugopnik. someone draw it now.

  • @emmasilver2332
    @emmasilver2332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For the Algorithm!!!

  • @RedPandaMoment
    @RedPandaMoment ปีที่แล้ว

    wut wut