When you start looking at the history of economics (obviously mostly of a capitalist nature) you see how many of the men involved in writing about economics were influenced by Darwin, given that his chief works were popular at the same time. So they start integrating these new ideas of evolution, natural orders, natural laws, etc., into their writings on economics seemingly completely ignoring the fact that economics is not a natural thing at all; it's entirely a man-made construct.
@@Tetragrammaton22 funnily enough, darwin himself was the one heavily influenced by current capitalist writers at the time, he framed his origin of species around these very ideas.
I need to correct JT on something: you do not share a state with Ted Cruze, you share a state with his mailing address. You can't share space with someone who isn't there.
There's a 2008 movie my step-dad forced the family to watch together called "The World Without US". That is the literal definition of American exceptionalism. I recommend anyone watch if you're still unsure after this. 100% propaganda presented as fact.
You don't have to sell that to me. IMDB did that for you. Their plot summary was utter bullshit. The world was fine before US, and it will be fine after US.
I'm in my mid-30s, Greek. Growing up, I swam in a sea of American movies, tv shows, comics, video games, you name it. I used to actually believe America was exceptional. I used to idolize it. I often dreamed about living there. Hell, I took English lessons with dozens of other kids and I was the only one who based his English on GAE instead of British English. ... then I grew up. These days, health care is one of the major reasons I'd be scared to live in the US. The work culture would be the second reason. And I say this even though I'm already, technically, working in the US, if remotely. I work for a NYC-based company, but I'm not getting paid a NYC salary 😛 Here in Greece, my aunt fell and hit her head because she had Alzheimer's and was deteriorating. We took her to the hospital, they stitched her up, patched her up, and we left. Months later she was getting worse, so she had a seizure. We thought it was a heart attack, so we immediately called for an ambulance. The ambulance came and drove her and me to the province capital about 55 miles away, to the best hospital in the region, where she stayed for about two weeks. The bill? €0. My bestie's mom got pericarditis from pneumonia. Two weeks in the hospital. €0. Cost of a medical degree in Greece? €0. How good are our doctors? They're one of Greece's major exports. Just count the Greek names you see in your hospitals. My own cousin and her SO are practicing in Minnesota, too 😛
The Greeks have much to be proud of comrade from overseas. Your contribution to the modern and ancient world isnt lost on every Englishman. Hope your doing ok
Hope you're doing okay. American hospitals are so expensive it is the first and second most common reason for bankruptcy in the US. Ambulance rides are easily 5-7k. Any surgery is 100k starting. Any overnight stay in a hospital is over 2k per night. Medical degrees are priced in the hundreds of thousands. Becoming a doctor isn't achievable for anyone who isn't already wealthy. Rags to riches is a common trope because of how tiny the chances of success are.
That $400 minimum for an ambulance you found is what we were billed when my grandmother / adoptive mother died. She was not taken in the ambulance- she died inside the house- it was $400 for the ambulance to drive half a mile and sit on the curb for like half an hour.
My wifes family was billed $10,000 for a 5 mile ambulance ride for her father. Then the hospital killed him which became a wrongful death malpractice case. Which was fortunately won. America sucks a lot.
Rome has always been used as a model by Western cultures in general long before the modern era, even before the Renaissance. For the United States, the Roman Republic is also used because it was a republic, and basically the only example of a major power that wasn't a monarchy. It's also a very apt example too, considering how both we're built on slavery.
Theres a scene in "Fred 3: Camp Fred" where they all start chanting "we're the best a being the worst" as a rallying cry. American Expectionalists reminds me alot of that scene.
@Hello It’s Luna Oof, yeah, as a (admittedly somewhat novice) software dev I know that feel from watching the way programming tasks are handled in media portrayal.
6:50 "They returned to monkey a long time ago" 💀💀💀💀 It's true btw, I've had the honor to experience it first-hand one time when I was on vacation on Crete. Absolute savages.
there *technically* is a difference, i think. an expatriate is someone who specifically left their country for a job, and intends to return once that job is over/they leave it, while an immigrant is someone who left their country without a direct, immediate employment incentive. then again, the people who say these terms probably don't know the difference, so the point still stands.
I had very bad food poisoning once and a fire fighter saw me sh$tting my pants and called me an ambulance (didnt ask me first). The ambulance ride was 2 minutes and the bill was $700.
These conversations are so valuable for the American population that has never seen a cultured perspective apart from the US mindset. Keep up the great work, gentlemen.
@@gryphonsong4082I hope we start hearing more and more stories like yours. The worst thing the us has done is convince normal people that socialism is evil
"Thank god I was not born in the US" it was the only thing I was thinking on when JT was talking about the american healthcare prices. This is fucking insane.
Another thing about the medical system in the western world I find so f*cked up is what the motives are for most people to to study medicine. I´m from Germany so I can only tell from my experiences. When I graduaded school one class mate had almost the best grades possible and I asked him what he was going to do with this. He just saied he´s gonna study medicine and I was like "What the f*ck. Sorry, you may be smart and all, but you and medicine? Why do you want to do that?" He was just like "I got the grades to be accepted on the uni... you earn a lot... social status..." I completely lost it. A family friend of mine is a doctor (out of real passion) and he´s over 70. I´d rather have him treat me with his old shivering hands than be trated by someone who does this job for money or the status. How´s that in other contries?
i think it’s sort of an international thing. I live in Western Asia, so it may not be the largest reason, but it always is part of top 3 goals. I know the same situation is in eastern asia as well
It's very common in the US I'm always told that I should study either medicine or law so I can earn a lot, but I'm like lol no I'm gonna study something that i'm actually passionate about and won't screw over other people Fuck your money I wanna be treated that by someone that actually cares about his job and patients, not by someone chasing that green
My daughter who was born extremely premature and spent 96 days in the NICU cost $996K, were it not for expensive health insurance and a government disability program my daughter qualified for since she was so tiny, my wife and I would be so screwed.
I'm sorry, they cost you almost a MILLION DOLLARS for having a baby? Goddamn, I'm American, and I knew our medical prices were ridiculous, but that's just a entirely new level of greed
Capitalism. The freedom to restrict other people's freedom to use your means of production without blocking or damaging your freedom to use them yourself.
That would be good yeah, though they may have to make them longer in order to scale out the newly added perspective. Longer podcasts might be difficult to do, and potentially not as popular for the audience.
Very odd that you mention this. During the introduction I loved hearing the different perspectives and thought it was really important to hear them since everyone is so sheltered by country or region and I was asking myself why stop there they need to add three more people on this panel. I was thinking someone from Asia, Africa, and South America as well. Get every perspective on the panel.
1:01:10 Me: "He's not gonna say they charge for this, that would be absolutely insane. The US is not THAT cartoonishly evil" Hakim: "THEY CHARGE FOR THIS SHIT" Me: 😶
"Where would the world be if not for the US?" Seems to overlook the idea that power vacuums work both ways. Both villains and heroes appear where possible.
@@RedLion502 Probably, but I still stand by my statement, and I'm favour of socialist hegemony and the overthrow of capitalism. The US empire, the EU empire, including those countries within it who had colonial empires, have always hurt and hindered the rest of the world, IMF and World Bank loans are incumbent on the receiving countries adhering to strict "free trade" principles, which means that they stay plundered and overexploited, unable to develop through being disallowed to do so. There is no doubt that China, whatever you think of them, is aiding in the actual development of countries, and sure, it's getting something out of it. Why shouldn't they? But they are not seeking to trap any country in a vicious debt cycle, unlike the global capitalist leaders like to do in order to maintain profits and power. No country has to command the world, though, not one. It's capitalism that necessitates imperialism, not socialism.
My car fell on me. I was fine just freaked out from that whole experience and my chest was sore. I kept telling the paramedics that I did not want to go to the hospital because I couldn’t afford it but they insisted. So I went. Mind you I have good insurance. I live 8 min from hospital where they took me. Final result: $2,000 after insurance. This was just the cost to get to hospital. Did not include bills for all the tests ran on me in the hospital and all the specialist and doctor bills that looked at me while I was there.
Similar experience, I had a motorcycle accident. I was okay just abrasions but they took me to hospital anyway. With insurance it came out to $1000…mins you this was 15 years ago so it would have been more today.
I thought I didn't know 3 Iraqi provinces, but apparently Baghdad does in fact get its own province, and Nineveh and Babil still exist (my American ass would have said Babel).
It feels like an influence of esoteric sects in the foundation of the united states who's lineages seems to follow back to the Roman Empire might be an influential factor of that idea.
The traveling Americans convo: Hakim is onto something with the “brainwash”. Dr. Andrew Mark Henry from Religion for Breakfast calls it American Civil Religion.
Yes! These experienced TH-camrs make useful playlists for people because they know the TH-cam algorithm no longer cares that #2 follows #1 for channel specific series.
(JT) I've been watching your content for a little while now, and sorta preached to my friends about these kinds of things. I freaked out last night when I finally heard one of my friends explicitly say "America sucks" while we were venting about the bs going around the world lately >:)
We grew up watching movies and being taught in school that we are exceptional. It seems Americans interpreted it as we are superior. We need to work on our manners. Great show guys. Maybe a lady voice to round things up?
American here, when I was 19 I was t-boned and broke My left femur, sacrum, a few ribs, collapsed lung, and lacerated spleen. I was in the hospital for 2 weeks. The bill was over 200,000 dollars after insurance.
Just wanna say thanks for getting these onto youtube, my add just won't let me listen to just podcasts for somereason. I need the video even if it's just the amazing looping graphic you have here.
Not only does Daycare cost hundreds a week, the people who work at Daycares make so little it is insane. My sister ran a daycare room of 15 kids between 1yr-2yr and she made 11 dollars an hour. And that was with a certification for Early Childhood Education.
this shit annoys me so much. I remember a kid in one of my classes getting angry abut these 'anti patriotic' kids who would complain about all the issues in America, he was complaining that they hate America. if I hated America I would say "we have the worst healthcare in the developed world, GOOD" if I hated America I would deny the issues that we have so they never get fixed. if I hated America I would act like YOU cade.
I'm an American, and I treat others especially those from outside my country as a brother or sister of mine. I treat them like family. Mainly because the United States doesn't have a singular culture ourselves. Everything we have culturally, is borrowed from others.
My sister had a very rough birth (rare health conditions, and many other issues), and the medical bills would’ve been around $100,000, but funny enough she qualified for Medicaid at birth so we didn’t have to pay it, but all of her specialists appointments after we still had to pay for, which bankrupt us… Gotta love America :D
I nearly cut off my finger the other week. Cooking while drunk and the knife slipped. I remember sitting on my kitchen floor, my buzz very quickly fading, putting pressure on really quite a deep cut, thinking, "So do I go to the ER? Is there anyone who could drive me at this time of night? Would an Uber driver be cool with me even getting in their car, bleeding all over the place? Am I even in the right mindset to make this decision right now?" In the end, I wrapped it up and waited until urgent care was open and my friend drove me there. Doctor told me that I should have gone to the ER because the wound was harder to stich because it had already started to heal around the edges. She said it will probably scar over worse, but functionality 'should' be fine (I sure hope so, my work is very physical and changing careers wouldn't be easy). I still think I made the right choice with the information I had on hand; going to the ER would have been way more expensive and opens you up to the possibility of an out-of-network doc brushing by me in the hallway or something. WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!!
As a portuguese one, I'd love our tax funded socialized healthcare system to go towards helping out an american in need. The more reactionary, the better XD
This podcast missed a HUGE point: When the government fucks people over, the perception is that they were just too dumb to do a good job. And capital is seen as competent by comparison, so whenever the government "screws up", it's a reason to deregulate and otherwise to "leave it to the markets." Capital is presented as the solution to the problems it actually creates.
Right from the beginning, I could tell this was gonna be good. Good point about the mowers, for instance. How can the Yanks pour so much time, effort and water into something that still looks boring? 6:41 Not the middle-class English, surely, Yugopnik? We're not loud. We eat the local cheese. We say 'bonjour' to the postman. What makes us such apes?
its true about the average price of giving birth. in 2019 i gave birth to my first born and i had an emergency c-section after trying to push non-stop for 2hrs. because i lost so much blood, i had to stay in the hospital for an extra day or two. i got the hospital bill and was expected to pay $70k. anesthesia and epidural altogether was about $3k, about another $300 to pay for the anesthesia doctor who administered it, emergency c-section and the assistants involved with the doctor in the procedure was about $30k, hospital stay is about $14k and w/ my extra day or two stay was an additional $3k, giving me pain medications afterwards was a total of $1k, the price of the doctors taking hearing tests on my child was about $150, $6k for newborn care, and paying a breast feeding instructor (who i didn’t need) was $500, my doctor was around $1k-OVERALL, whatever and however much the price was, it basically totaled to my hospital bill of $70k. they even tried to charge me $200 if i wanted my newborn to be circumcised. luckily the insurance im under paid for the entirety of my hospital bill, but i had to wait about a month or 2 in order for them to pay it all off, and during that time the hospital was calling me and saying i had to pay the bill if not i was going to have loan collectors coming onto me, but luckily i explained my situation telling them my insurance was taking care of it and that they were processing everything. OVERALL? fucking ridiculous on the price of having a kid. very happy for my blessing but not happy that this is the amount we have to pay. it’s extremely unfortunate for those who don’t have insurance or have to pay the difference if the insurance doesn’t want to pay the entire bill. it’s fucking crazy living here. oh and i’m from arizona fyi 😅😪
57:00 yall talk about getting an uber instead of an ambulance here, this is very common. I've heard a second hand story of a woman that gave birth in an uber and I personally have walked across town while in the worst pain of my life rather than bankrupt myself for a 20 minute ambulance ride. Sprinkle sugar on a pile of shit and call it an icecream sundae all you'd like, it will never be exceptional.
Thinking about it, I disagree with Hakim at 54:13. In general, no treatment should be better than the other just because you are able to pay more money. We are all equal and those who have less money are not worth less and have the right to the same treatment as any other person. Besides, it would not work the way Hakim said. If one would get a much better treatment for just a little bit more money, everyone who has enough money, and everyone should have, would choose this better treatment. Thus, the request for the meaningfully better choice would be much higher than for the less good one. This could lead to the fact that in the end it is the people who leave a small donation who get a place first. Correct me if I am wrong.
Tumbleweeds are likely in the U.S. states with some deserts or at least very arid areas - California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Utah, maybe bits of Colorado and Oklahoma. Wyoming and Wisconsin (especially!) are bad for tumbleweeds but fine for obscure state examples.
The lack of a public, free healthcare system or its low quality in many capitalist countries just shows us what the real nature of this system is. A poor country under an excruciating embargo like Cuba manages to have one of the best healthcare systems in the whole world just because it is a socialist society where the power belongs to the Cuban working class. Unfortunately, many people all around the planet still can't notice those stark contradictions, even some young Cubans seem to be blind to this.
americans don't just think capitalism is god, they think it's ~nature~
The "free market" lol
When you start looking at the history of economics (obviously mostly of a capitalist nature) you see how many of the men involved in writing about economics were influenced by Darwin, given that his chief works were popular at the same time. So they start integrating these new ideas of evolution, natural orders, natural laws, etc., into their writings on economics seemingly completely ignoring the fact that economics is not a natural thing at all; it's entirely a man-made construct.
@@Tetragrammaton22 funnily enough, darwin himself was the one heavily influenced by current capitalist writers at the time, he framed his origin of species around these very ideas.
And funnily enough, Marx did not think that capitalism will go away because it is bad, but because of natural laws of economic development.
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I'm sorry but Yugopnik's "I knew it was a bad idea working with a fking yankee" in the intro was too damn good
I need to correct JT on something: you do not share a state with Ted Cruze, you share a state with his mailing address. You can't share space with someone who isn't there.
LMAO
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Cancun Cruz
Fuck, I'm some guy from Wisconsin listening
You gotta admit, that shit was funny 😂
Saaaasame.
That shit slapped lol
Solidarity my midwestern comrades
JT as a Texan you know by law you have to give a trigger warning before you mention ted cruz🤢
There's a 2008 movie my step-dad forced the family to watch together called "The World Without US". That is the literal definition of American exceptionalism. I recommend anyone watch if you're still unsure after this. 100% propaganda presented as fact.
damn
Is it like those old 1950s/60s videos "the world without zinc" and other such things?
@@Tetragrammaton22 first thing i thought of, and those parodies the Simpsons would have of them w/Troy McClure narrating
You don't have to sell that to me. IMDB did that for you. Their plot summary was utter bullshit. The world was fine before US, and it will be fine after US.
I'm in my mid-30s, Greek. Growing up, I swam in a sea of American movies, tv shows, comics, video games, you name it. I used to actually believe America was exceptional. I used to idolize it. I often dreamed about living there. Hell, I took English lessons with dozens of other kids and I was the only one who based his English on GAE instead of British English.
... then I grew up.
These days, health care is one of the major reasons I'd be scared to live in the US. The work culture would be the second reason. And I say this even though I'm already, technically, working in the US, if remotely. I work for a NYC-based company, but I'm not getting paid a NYC salary 😛
Here in Greece, my aunt fell and hit her head because she had Alzheimer's and was deteriorating. We took her to the hospital, they stitched her up, patched her up, and we left. Months later she was getting worse, so she had a seizure. We thought it was a heart attack, so we immediately called for an ambulance.
The ambulance came and drove her and me to the province capital about 55 miles away, to the best hospital in the region, where she stayed for about two weeks. The bill? €0.
My bestie's mom got pericarditis from pneumonia. Two weeks in the hospital. €0.
Cost of a medical degree in Greece? €0. How good are our doctors? They're one of Greece's major exports. Just count the Greek names you see in your hospitals. My own cousin and her SO are practicing in Minnesota, too 😛
Thank you for sharing ❤
The Greeks have much to be proud of comrade from overseas. Your contribution to the modern and ancient world isnt lost on every Englishman. Hope your doing ok
Hope you're doing okay.
American hospitals are so expensive it is the first and second most common reason for bankruptcy in the US. Ambulance rides are easily 5-7k. Any surgery is 100k starting. Any overnight stay in a hospital is over 2k per night.
Medical degrees are priced in the hundreds of thousands. Becoming a doctor isn't achievable for anyone who isn't already wealthy. Rags to riches is a common trope because of how tiny the chances of success are.
S/O to Greece.✊
Whenever I hear the term American exceptionalism, Manifest Destiny comes to mind.
That $400 minimum for an ambulance you found is what we were billed when my grandmother / adoptive mother died. She was not taken in the ambulance- she died inside the house- it was $400 for the ambulance to drive half a mile and sit on the curb for like half an hour.
My wifes family was billed $10,000 for a 5 mile ambulance ride for her father. Then the hospital killed him which became a wrongful death malpractice case. Which was fortunately won. America sucks a lot.
Jfc jfc jfc
Rome has always been used as a model by Western cultures in general long before the modern era, even before the Renaissance. For the United States, the Roman Republic is also used because it was a republic, and basically the only example of a major power that wasn't a monarchy.
It's also a very apt example too, considering how both we're built on slavery.
It was a Oligarchic Republic, just like what we have.
@@evrensaygn1017 Exactly. That model has become the main one in so-called democracies.
i am required to maintain my lawn under contract, and threat of money fines. i wish i could delete the damn thing
Theres a scene in "Fred 3: Camp Fred" where they all start chanting "we're the best a being the worst" as a rallying cry. American Expectionalists reminds me alot of that scene.
Of all places, I never expected a fred 3 reference in the comments of a leftist podcast.
Fred 3 is Maoist theory
At least they admit it, Americans are in constant state of denial.
I feel this needs to be said - It's an actual meme how bad we Amuricans are at our OWN geography, so you're doin' juuuuust fine mai dude. xD
I was once talking with a New Yorker, and telling them I'm from Utah. They said, and I quote: "wait, isn't that in Denver?" 🤣🤣🤣
@@emmasilver2332 xD *facepalm!* Exactly!
@Hello It’s Luna Oof, yeah, as a (admittedly somewhat novice) software dev I know that feel from watching the way programming tasks are handled in media portrayal.
@@emmasilver2332 the 50 states might as well be countries when you’re talking about geography and memorizing the capitals on top of that is difficult
Damn 😂
Im so glad JT brought up gerrymandering! Its fucking despicable
6:50 "They returned to monkey a long time ago" 💀💀💀💀
It's true btw, I've had the honor to experience it first-hand one time when I was on vacation on Crete. Absolute savages.
I already listened all episodes on Spotify, i shall commet for the algorithm!
same, only I listened on Google Podcasts
For the algorithm!
Obligatory algorithm reply.
Algorithms are good for TH-cam comments
Will the algorithm count my commitment if it's a reply?
I don't want to spam
Thats an interesting point of the term immigrants and expats, never thought about it before until now lol~
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It’s good that your learned.
@@tottenhamteacher yep~ learn a lot of new things from this podcast actually. Loving this series xD
Right?! Me too. It never really hit me like that until now
there *technically* is a difference, i think. an expatriate is someone who specifically left their country for a job, and intends to return once that job is over/they leave it, while an immigrant is someone who left their country without a direct, immediate employment incentive.
then again, the people who say these terms probably don't know the difference, so the point still stands.
I had very bad food poisoning once and a fire fighter saw me sh$tting my pants and called me an ambulance (didnt ask me first). The ambulance ride was 2 minutes and the bill was $700.
No fuckin way!?
That is terrible! I hope you don’t have to deal with that anytime soon
Hahaha you shit your pants🤣 that's so fucking sad bro
@@calvinawald1225 Why is that sad? Shit happens sometimes lol. Doesn't mean we have to try to put people down about it.
@@colinlovdahl3579 just a sad situation to find ones self in. I meant no disrespect brother. Shit indeed happens.
These conversations are so valuable for the American population that has never seen a cultured perspective apart from the US mindset. Keep up the great work, gentlemen.
I am loving it as an ex-conservative. Never got this growing up, and happy to know I’ve actually always been a socialist, just never in name.
@@gryphonsong4082I hope we start hearing more and more stories like yours. The worst thing the us has done is convince normal people that socialism is evil
(One of the worst things)
Hey! I'm that guy from Wisconsin listening to this! I've been anti American since i was 18 in 2008!! Hell yeah!!
5:04 literally never heard it described so well. The DLC line is incredibly accurate
"Thank god I was not born in the US" it was the only thing I was thinking on when JT was talking about the american healthcare prices. This is fucking insane.
Another thing about the medical system in the western world I find so f*cked up is what the motives are for most people to to study medicine. I´m from Germany so I can only tell from my experiences.
When I graduaded school one class mate had almost the best grades possible and I asked him what he was going to do with this. He just saied he´s gonna study medicine and I was like "What the f*ck. Sorry, you may be smart and all, but you and medicine? Why do you want to do that?" He was just like "I got the grades to be accepted on the uni... you earn a lot... social status..." I completely lost it. A family friend of mine is a doctor (out of real passion) and he´s over 70. I´d rather have him treat me with his old shivering hands than be trated by someone who does this job for money or the status.
How´s that in other contries?
is they a bad person? why did you judge them before they told you their vain excuse?
i think it’s sort of an international thing. I live in Western Asia, so it may not be the largest reason, but it always is part of top 3 goals. I know the same situation is in eastern asia as well
Its the same in india except the competition is much more than the west.
It's very common in the US
I'm always told that I should study either medicine or law so I can earn a lot, but I'm like lol no
I'm gonna study something that i'm actually passionate about and won't screw over other people
Fuck your money
I wanna be treated that by someone that actually cares about his job and patients, not by someone chasing that green
That's normal everywhere. Doctors have a high social status in every country.
US is literally the modern day cyberpunk.
My daughter who was born extremely premature and spent 96 days in the NICU cost $996K, were it not for expensive health insurance and a government disability program my daughter qualified for since she was so tiny, my wife and I would be so screwed.
I'm sorry, they cost you almost a MILLION DOLLARS for having a baby? Goddamn, I'm American, and I knew our medical prices were ridiculous, but that's just a entirely new level of greed
Capitalism.
The freedom to restrict other people's freedom to use your means of production without blocking or damaging your freedom to use them yourself.
Imagine the irony. taking the hippocratic oath as an US doctor LMAO
quite hypocritical
I feel like this trio would work better as a quartet. We need a Marxist feminist, please. ✌
I was thinking a female or African pov would have been a great addition or maybe even both
That would be good yeah, though they may have to make them longer in order to scale out the newly added perspective. Longer podcasts might be difficult to do, and potentially not as popular for the audience.
Luna Oi??? I'm just saying I would enjoy that lol
Very odd that you mention this. During the introduction I loved hearing the different perspectives and thought it was really important to hear them since everyone is so sheltered by country or region and I was asking myself why stop there they need to add three more people on this panel. I was thinking someone from Asia, Africa, and South America as well. Get every perspective on the panel.
@@seropia Well they have an esiode with her as an quest! It's 20th something episode.
1:01:10
Me: "He's not gonna say they charge for this, that would be absolutely insane. The US is not THAT cartoonishly evil"
Hakim: "THEY CHARGE FOR THIS SHIT"
Me: 😶
😅my mom’s a nurse and when she used to work in the hospital she would see all the ways they charge for everything little thing it’s insane!
I just want to say thank you to the TH-cam suggestions for showing me Second Thought, because now I am here! ✊
Not gonna lie, the liberal Newsmax and foreign Fox News part blew my mind 🤯 Actually had no idea about this!
"Where would the world be if not for the US?" Seems to overlook the idea that power vacuums work both ways. Both villains and heroes appear where possible.
"Where would the world be if not for the US?" Probably in a much better state, let's be real.
@@sentientnatalie I think what they meant was if it wasn’t the US it would be some other country
@@RedLion502 Probably, but I still stand by my statement, and I'm favour of socialist hegemony and the overthrow of capitalism. The US empire, the EU empire, including those countries within it who had colonial empires, have always hurt and hindered the rest of the world, IMF and World Bank loans are incumbent on the receiving countries adhering to strict "free trade" principles, which means that they stay plundered and overexploited, unable to develop through being disallowed to do so.
There is no doubt that China, whatever you think of them, is aiding in the actual development of countries, and sure, it's getting something out of it. Why shouldn't they? But they are not seeking to trap any country in a vicious debt cycle, unlike the global capitalist leaders like to do in order to maintain profits and power. No country has to command the world, though, not one. It's capitalism that necessitates imperialism, not socialism.
This is my new favorite podcast
Second Thought, Hakim, and Yugopink... This is beautiful
Uber driver would probably be charged for practicing medicine without a license if you asked them to keep pressure on a wound 😂😭
i FUCKING love this podcast
We Americans have a false sense of entitlement.
My car fell on me. I was fine just freaked out from that whole experience and my chest was sore. I kept telling the paramedics that I did not want to go to the hospital because I couldn’t afford it but they insisted. So I went. Mind you I have good insurance. I live 8 min from hospital where they took me.
Final result: $2,000 after insurance. This was just the cost to get to hospital. Did not include bills for all the tests ran on me in the hospital and all the specialist and doctor bills that looked at me while I was there.
Similar experience, I had a motorcycle accident. I was okay just abrasions but they took me to hospital anyway. With insurance it came out to $1000…mins you this was 15 years ago so it would have been more today.
This intro song is so good, man! 🔥
40.02-40.18 instant classic and how could I forget
43.19-43.50
40:02 40:18
43:19 43:50
Fun fact: Tumble weeds are Russian. They're Russian Thistle if I remember correctly
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I thought I didn't know 3 Iraqi provinces, but apparently Baghdad does in fact get its own province, and Nineveh and Babil still exist (my American ass would have said Babel).
It feels like an influence of esoteric sects in the foundation of the united states who's lineages seems to follow back to the Roman Empire might be an influential factor of that idea.
The traveling Americans convo: Hakim is onto something with the “brainwash”. Dr. Andrew Mark Henry from Religion for Breakfast calls it American Civil Religion.
Yes, I thought about that too! Nice to see another RFB fan here.
"I knew it was a bad idea working with a fucking Yankee." I feel that and I'm Canadian. We're basically the same thing. It's a weird feeling.
You have a least one listener from Wisconsin. Me!!
You also have a listener from Georgia
Yes! These experienced TH-camrs make useful playlists for people because they know the TH-cam algorithm no longer cares that #2 follows #1 for channel specific series.
Mashallah daddy The Deprogram has uploaded.
These are so good to listen to during my shift at McDonhell
1:18:00 Beautifully stated Hakim. That projection is real.
(JT) I've been watching your content for a little while now, and sorta preached to my friends about these kinds of things.
I freaked out last night when I finally heard one of my friends explicitly say "America sucks" while we were venting about the bs going around the world lately >:)
Great show. Made me chuckle, made me think.
We grew up watching movies and being taught in school that we are exceptional. It seems Americans interpreted it as we are superior. We need to work on our manners.
Great show guys. Maybe a lady voice to round things up?
Best podcast introduction ever lmao
I look forward to seeing more angry hakim 🥰
one of the best episodes so far! love this topic
Wyomingite here! Love this podcast!
The US is an exceptional country: It is exceptionally expensive to live in!
A lot of countries are becoming increasingly expensive to live in, so it's not even exceptional in that regard.
Been listening to this while working. These podcasts are hilarious
22:47 Amazing.... I am literally some guy in Wisconsin.
Could you now make one on European exceptionalisim?
American here, when I was 19 I was t-boned and broke My left femur, sacrum, a few ribs, collapsed lung, and lacerated spleen. I was in the hospital for 2 weeks. The bill was over 200,000 dollars after insurance.
I'm brand new to this actual podcast, but I've heard of these creators and I'm LOVING this! Thanks for posting this to TH-cam!
This was both incredibly fun to listen to and hilarious; Ugopnik had me nearly falling over with his headassery.
Just wanna say thanks for getting these onto youtube, my add just won't let me listen to just podcasts for somereason. I need the video even if it's just the amazing looping graphic you have here.
You guys killed this topic. Amazing and very true takes by all of you! 👍
Wisconsin man here. I am in fact listening
oh your real lol
Making me laugh, thank you guys:)
My favorite podcast on the get-go
Not only does Daycare cost hundreds a week, the people who work at Daycares make so little it is insane. My sister ran a daycare room of 15 kids between 1yr-2yr and she made 11 dollars an hour. And that was with a certification for Early Childhood Education.
I love this.
absolutly loving this podcast and the Banta betwenn the three of you
American the ultimate subscription!
Brilliant stuff, refreshing too
this shit annoys me so much.
I remember a kid in one of my classes getting angry abut these 'anti patriotic' kids who would complain about all the issues in America, he was complaining that they hate America. if I hated America I would say
"we have the worst healthcare in the developed world, GOOD" if I hated America I would deny the issues that we have so they never get fixed. if I hated America I would act like YOU cade.
Shit you guys got me on the intro. Love your guys work.
I love you guys
I'm an American, and I treat others especially those from outside my country as a brother or sister of mine. I treat them like family. Mainly because the United States doesn't have a singular culture ourselves. Everything we have culturally, is borrowed from others.
My sister had a very rough birth (rare health conditions, and many other issues), and the medical bills would’ve been around $100,000, but funny enough she qualified for Medicaid at birth so we didn’t have to pay it, but all of her specialists appointments after we still had to pay for, which bankrupt us… Gotta love America :D
23:02 As an American I just want to say, jokes on you no one lives in Wyoming
I nearly cut off my finger the other week. Cooking while drunk and the knife slipped. I remember sitting on my kitchen floor, my buzz very quickly fading, putting pressure on really quite a deep cut, thinking, "So do I go to the ER? Is there anyone who could drive me at this time of night? Would an Uber driver be cool with me even getting in their car, bleeding all over the place? Am I even in the right mindset to make this decision right now?" In the end, I wrapped it up and waited until urgent care was open and my friend drove me there. Doctor told me that I should have gone to the ER because the wound was harder to stich because it had already started to heal around the edges. She said it will probably scar over worse, but functionality 'should' be fine (I sure hope so, my work is very physical and changing careers wouldn't be easy). I still think I made the right choice with the information I had on hand; going to the ER would have been way more expensive and opens you up to the possibility of an out-of-network doc brushing by me in the hallway or something. WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!!!
I hope Yugovnik measures all wealth in BMWs.
I just need to comment on how cool the Uum Kalthum poster is behind Yugopnik. She is an incredibly important musical influence of mine.
Domination from Sea to Sea
- Bruce Cumings
As a portuguese one, I'd love our tax funded socialized healthcare system to go towards helping out an american in need. The more reactionary, the better XD
That would be awesome
good stuff
Does Minnesota count as Wisconsin? Lol
But don’t you dare tell either of them lol
Lol
As one great Russian philosopher Bogdan Vavilov once said "Moscow is the third Rome, USA is an ordinary, collapsing Rome"
This podcast missed a HUGE point: When the government fucks people over, the perception is that they were just too dumb to do a good job. And capital is seen as competent by comparison, so whenever the government "screws up", it's a reason to deregulate and otherwise to "leave it to the markets." Capital is presented as the solution to the problems it actually creates.
A lot of people in the Philippines also prattle about "unbiased" media. American politics kinda mirror ours.
22:48 If I had a drink I'd have spit it out laughing, are you guys spying on me?
Right from the beginning, I could tell this was gonna be good.
Good point about the mowers, for instance. How can the Yanks pour so much time, effort and water into something that still looks boring?
6:41
Not the middle-class English, surely, Yugopnik?
We're not loud. We eat the local cheese. We say 'bonjour' to the postman. What makes us such apes?
its true about the average price of giving birth. in 2019 i gave birth to my first born and i had an emergency c-section after trying to push non-stop for 2hrs. because i lost so much blood, i had to stay in the hospital for an extra day or two.
i got the hospital bill and was expected to pay $70k. anesthesia and epidural altogether was about $3k, about another $300 to pay for the anesthesia doctor who administered it, emergency c-section and the assistants involved with the doctor in the procedure was about $30k, hospital stay is about $14k and w/ my extra day or two stay was an additional $3k, giving me pain medications afterwards was a total of $1k, the price of the doctors taking hearing tests on my child was about $150, $6k for newborn care, and paying a breast feeding instructor (who i didn’t need) was $500, my doctor was around $1k-OVERALL, whatever and however much the price was, it basically totaled to my hospital bill of $70k. they even tried to charge me $200 if i wanted my newborn to be circumcised.
luckily the insurance im under paid for the entirety of my hospital bill, but i had to wait about a month or 2 in order for them to pay it all off, and during that time the hospital was calling me and saying i had to pay the bill if not i was going to have loan collectors coming onto me, but luckily i explained my situation telling them my insurance was taking care of it and that they were processing everything.
OVERALL? fucking ridiculous on the price of having a kid. very happy for my blessing but not happy that this is the amount we have to pay. it’s extremely unfortunate for those who don’t have insurance or have to pay the difference if the insurance doesn’t want to pay the entire bill. it’s fucking crazy living here. oh and i’m from arizona fyi 😅😪
57:00 yall talk about getting an uber instead of an ambulance here, this is very common. I've heard a second hand story of a woman that gave birth in an uber and I personally have walked across town while in the worst pain of my life rather than bankrupt myself for a 20 minute ambulance ride. Sprinkle sugar on a pile of shit and call it an icecream sundae all you'd like, it will never be exceptional.
Thinking about it, I disagree with Hakim at 54:13. In general, no treatment should be better than the other just because you are able to pay more money. We are all equal and those who have less money are not worth less and have the right to the same treatment as any other person.
Besides, it would not work the way Hakim said. If one would get a much better treatment for just a little bit more money, everyone who has enough money, and everyone should have, would choose this better treatment. Thus, the request for the meaningfully better choice would be much higher than for the less good one. This could lead to the fact that in the end it is the people who leave a small donation who get a place first.
Correct me if I am wrong.
That end song, I want it :)
Tumbleweeds are likely in the U.S. states with some deserts or at least very arid areas - California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Utah, maybe bits of Colorado and Oklahoma. Wyoming and Wisconsin (especially!) are bad for tumbleweeds but fine for obscure state examples.
For comrade algorythm! ❤
I had a fight with my dad because of an argument😮💨😮💨 with loans
The lack of a public, free healthcare system or its low quality in many capitalist countries just shows us what the real nature of this system is. A poor country under an excruciating embargo like Cuba manages to have one of the best healthcare systems in the whole world just because it is a socialist society where the power belongs to the Cuban working class. Unfortunately, many people all around the planet still can't notice those stark contradictions, even some young Cubans seem to be blind to this.