Britain's Challenging Children (Child Psychology Documentary) | Real Stories
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- This film follows life inside 5 UK primary schools to uncover the enormous challenges faced by teachers dealing with violent and disruptive behaviour. 97 percent of teachers say they have to deal with disruptive pupils in their classroom - pupils like Levi in Luton, who regularly has to storm out of class for fear that he might lose control; or Jordyn in Glasgow whose swearing and aggression frightens teachers and classmates alike.
With remarkable results, we follow Levi, Jordyn and others as their schools reach out to both children and parents to address the roots of their behaviour.
In Jordyn's school she benefits from a Nurture Group, a special room set up as a bridge between home and school, where the whole spectrum of behavours that form a barrier to learning, from complete withdrawal to outright aggression, can be addressed.
And in Levi's school headteacher, Hilary Goddard puts into practice her "whole brain behaviour management in the classroom" to help both children, teachers and parents.
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“A quiet bare walled room with no furniture for the children to throw or climb on “ *child angrily climbing door frame*
lol
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. I'm sitting here like umm.....😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha 😂😂😂
HAHA
Complete insanity when it could be so easy!
The adults in this programme make me believe in humanity. They care for these difficult children and make the world a better place for everyone. Respect due. Thank you.
They try to repair what parents break. This is sad overall.
@@svetavinogradova4243 Define "break".
And, that kid levi is getting attention alright. That's all he wants. Attention. He obviously doesn't get it at home so disrupts school to get it.
Suey no its not about that its classed as mental health iv been in his shoes when i was a kid
Yeah he doesn't get a good walloping at home to break him out of stupid
Cyberdyne Systems I think he gets enough of that, it would explain his aggression.
We were sent home .
And every other kid suffers because of it. They have NO business in school with normal kids.
Been a teacher for over 10 years. For most aggressive and continually misbehaving students, poor parenting is at the root. Other things exacerbate the situation:
1) Not being able to firmly discipline students because teachers are then reported for misconduct
2) So much of what a teacher must do has to be just to "show Ofsted" that we're doing it right.
3) Safeguarding is important, but is now taken to such an extreme that we often feel as though we'll be reported for abuse if they fall and end up with a scratch.
All in all, students know they can take advantage and get away with it. And it's scary to think these kids will grow up to become parents themselves
Been a Residential Support Worker for many years, lived with and supported some of the worst cases of neglect and abused children in the country, literally 10 o'clock news coverage. Levi looks like an angel in comparison, its an achievement just getting some children to school let alone hoping that they actually enjoy and achieve something. The 3 points you make are bang on the money.
Please learn neurology. Please for the sake of the families. ASD is real and shows on brain scans, so is psychopathy and other neural disorders.
Also a general school setting cannot possibly support all children, they identified different needs as guess what? People, especially children have a wide range of emotions, needs, abilities, sensitivities which a school setting cannot through no fault of their own, cater for.
Sammie Boyd there’s a reason that someone under the age of 18 can’t be diagnosed with ASPD or similar kinds of personality disorders. their brains aren’t fully formed and neither are the complex emotions, that someone would need to lack to be defined as a “sociopath” or “psychopath”
@@sammieboyd6348
Did you even watch all of this?
Unless it’s a highly prestigious school or an _absolute_ no tolerance school, every school has at least one problematic student.
Wish they had those "nurture groups" in *secondary* schools, I mean we need support too..... All we really need is someone to talk to and someone to understand us. It takes one person to make your life a misery. And it only takes one person to help reverse that.
I didn't have a nurture room in my primary school but do have one I'm my high school. Weird.
PantheraPardus 28 I spent most of my time in the nurture group and when I moved to high school they have something called LB1 & 2 it’s a very similar thing most schools have something like that you just have to have a recognised problem like anxiety sever bullying ptsd ect but sadly a lot of problems in teens it goes undetected
We have those nurture groups in our high school 🎒📚😂
I have one nd I’m in secondary
My nephew has one of sorts. But he's getting kicked out. His behaviour is just getting worse and worse. The school bent over backwards to help him. Later starting times. But he still won't go to class. He wonders off and comes and goes as he pleases
I understand as I hated school. But the school has done everything to help him. He does nothing to help himself.
Poor parenting are the main cause of challenging kids. It’s the parents that needs to be questioned by the authorities. All children need a loving and caring home.
The way they dealt with the first kid was so backwards in my opinion. They basically gave him complete control, chasing him around and asking him to go to class instead of telling him to go or be punished. Kids these days control their parents and have no consequences for their bad behavior. It's ridiculous!
It's against the law for children to refuse to enter their assigned classrooms and the parents get charged.
*** LoveKnowsNoBounds *** p
Yes it was terrible how they dealt so calmly and compassionately with a boy who was clearly angry and hurting, and that is evident in the fact he made incredible progress in literacy and math and was attending classes happily by the end of the year! Imagine the horrors if we invested a little upfront so that all children had the space to safely express their feelings.
. . . did you even watch to the end?
*** LoveKnowsNoBounds *** hi
Stephanie D... They should express their feelings at home with their parents and tell them all about it. The *parents* are the ones that should be dealing with this kid, and his doctors and psychiatrists. A school isn't supposed to be a psychiatrist's couch for the mentally unbalanced, and teachers shouldn't be required to deal with violent kids that they aren't qualified to deal with, and risk harm. These types of kids should be in a special school with adults equipped to handle their episodes. The majority shouldn't have to give up an environment conducive to learning for the sake of kids that can't, or won't, behave and/or are prone to meltdowns and extreme anger. That's not fair to the majority.
Giving kids the skills to self regulate and acknowledge their emotions is so important. I think some parents need help supporting their children & being really present in their lives.
Amen, pal, all children need parents who are supportive, positive influencers, understanding, caring, helpful, honest, and well-renowned teachers in life.
i think what David did in his playtime was not proof of his insecurities but more of a reflection of what he is experiencing away from school. I could be wrong but it seems like signs of hidden abuse.
Growing up as a kid with thyroid problems I would have loved something like the nurture room when I was a kid. I often was very tired and felt very overwhelmed most days by the typical class room inviroment I still have this in high school and I'm finding it hard most days.
I wish this could help in schools in the US. I was diagnosed with autism as well with speech issue. It would be nice if I could go to a room that helped in extra study as well a home environment. Because at nine my grandma died and I sometimes had study issues from fourth to sixth grade. So this would have helped.
immy I know this is super old but I have sever anxiety and because of that I had to switch completely to online school because I couldn’t handle the class room. Most days all I needed was a 10 minute breather in my own space. Instead the corrupt us school called cps on my family because I eventually quit going all together. They wouldn’t put me in the online program until I had gone through extensive mental health evaluations and a form from my doctor. It was insane
Those teachers dealing with levi just gave him all of the control.
“if you end up walking off, you will be sent home” What sort of kid doesn’t want to be sent home when they clearly don’t want to be in school?
Depends. If they're being abused at home they DO NOT wanna go home. I'm not saying that is happening in this case but just IF it is.
Kids deserve control over what they spend their time on , a kids childhood isnt just time , it’s their life . Every child is living their life and having to spend years of it on something they are bound to hate because their forced to spend their whole childhood on it .
Hannah Diane come on he has a like a decade of childhood
ComedyCenter that’s probably what he needs. A lot of children who have things going on at home act out because they feel like they have no control over their lives, giving them options helps them see that they do have to be naughty to get that control back
Depends. I knew someone who would rather come to school with a raging fever than be home with their awful mother.
When I was young, if kids behaved like Levi, they were generally sent to "Special school" because it was assumed that there was something wrong with their intellect and it was seen as being too disruptive for the other regular students.
And that was probably the best thing because special schools have the teachers with the adequate knowledge and understanding of disorders like Pathological Demand Avoidance that most of these children have.
except those schools are then losing a space for a child that ACTUALLY needs it
Bad things can happen when assumptions are made. My husband was very disruptive in school, and as a result was sent to a "special class". Turns out, he was extremely gifted, and was very, very bored. They got it wrong because of their assumption. He still has a lot of resentment today because of how he was handled as a child.
Personally I think they need more of these “helping behaviour teachers” in secondary schools. Older children need someone to talk to sometimes. Also some secondary schools (like mine) don’t even have a ‘quiet room’ or something like that to think and be alone. X
Its just about children respecting their boundaries. It's down to parents who enforce the bounds that cannot and should not be broken. I've grown up respecting my parents and being respectful of not crossing the boundaries they've set. It's not down to the schools to enforce this practice and find out what's wrong. If the parents did their jobs then we would not be in this situation.
Snowflake generation. Everything is scrutinised and fingers pointed, all by idiots.
Okay, but what about the children of neglectful parents who DON’T do that? So many close minded comments on here seem to think these children have no value.
Paris fisher...👏right
@@Kirsten_is_cursed10 People who disrespect others do not have value, those kids are left overs of natural selection, leave them in peace, they will destroy themselves to the common good. Society waits until those turn 18, then imprison them away.
Jordan's mom keeps breaking into a smile, while describing Jordan's disruptive behavior. It makes me wonder if she is one of those parents who tend to label their child's "bad behavior" as " high-spirited " and amused by it. Hopefully, her smiling was because she was nervous in front of the camera.
ADHd, ODD and like form because of such mothers, all of them are like that.
@@svetavinogradova4243 Prove it.
Yesterday I watched a Real Stories documentary about children in Gambia. These children were desperate to attend school, but their parents had to pay for the privilege. They had hardly any food or comfort, yet they were well mannered, hard working. My point is to stop indulging the 'Levi's' of this world, send him home! Better still, send him to Gambia.
claire99ism I agree...like I said,it shouldn't be an option...
+Catherine Stanley education starts when you are young correct me if I'm wrong
Abdirahim Mussa Yes!! Basic education starts before you even leave the womb! Teachers don’t get their hands on kids until they’re 4-5 years old. They’ve already had years of ‘teaching’ & some are already experts at manipulating for attention & expressing frustration & pain as pure rage! Other kids shouldn’t have to tolerate their violent & rude behaviour. When I returned to England I was given details of local schools to choose which to apply to. All schools bragged about their specialists & targeted education for special needs (emotionally, behaviourally & educationally) Children. ONLY one of the schools even mentioned high IQ ‘high-flyer’ children’s special needs!
lol I'm from gambia and would die if a acted like this
Exactly! Here in Africa being in school is like being in heaven. It's a privilege you can't imagine! When kids get it they read even with the moonlight because most people can't afford any form of lighting.
When I was Levi's age, I did the exact same things at school. I sort of had an excuse because I'm Autistic, but in many other ways I do control myself. I use to get restrained everyday in primary school, then I found out that mainstream wasn't for me so they put me in a special needs school. I did much better there, then I went to a special needs secondary school and didn't do so well there. I'm doing very well.
Why is Levi allowed recess if he was acting up earlier in the day?!
Meg L Punishing him probably would have made him angrier and caused him to lash out more - it was a safer bet to allow him his break and give him time to cool off.
Meg L it's not recess you yank
Because god forbid anyone actually enforce consequences for his CHOICE to behave like that, amirite?
@Brenda Chown ADHD doesn't work that way, and not holding him accountable is doing him no favors.
He would have got angrier and he would not have gotten energy out so he act up more in class
Levi is a kid- he doesn't understand 'choices' that they talk about because he doesn't care. You need to make the choices for him- he HAS to go to class. He HAS to participate in lessons
At 9:44, that little girl just standing there, letting the rain hit her face...oh to be young again!! That baby girl doesn't have a care in the world at that moment.
The thing is when i was growing up in the 70's and eighties as a kids. we just couldn't behave like this. We were put in our place firmly. We had boundaries we couldn't cross and for the most part we didn't.
Suey indeed . Although l hated it at the time, my parents strictness made me a better person. A nail that sticks up will be hammered down, as my father used to say.
you are absolutely right!
Suey its mental health also classed as a brain disorder look it up alot kids never get help because of the cuts that government makes
I think in some cases yes, but in some cases it is clearly just misbehaviour. Today society panders to children too much. Kids need boundaries and they need to be told no. They need to be told you sit down do as you are told. There are kids that have ADD and kids that have ADHD. i am not denying that. But, i think these issues are overdiagnosed. Kids that are just plain misbehaving, not doing what they are told and disrupting everyone else. And, it has nothing to do with learning or social difficulties. When i was at school i did have learning issues. Behaviour issues as a result. But, i was still firmly put in my place. And, rightly so!
And everyone from your generation turned out great I guess
Some kids just aren’t compatible with public school. It doesn’t mean that they’re bad kids, just that they need a different structure of education. I was one of the “disruptive” children in primary school and I remember crying after school some days because I didn’t understand why I couldn’t keep myself from yelling out and saying whatever was on my mind when the teacher was giving lessons. Eventually I was diagnosed with ADHD and the teachers became more understanding and less punitive, but I spent 3 or 4 years being a disruption to the other kids and not being able to learn anything myself because my disability wasn’t yet diagnosed or properly understood.
There’s more disruptive children because they get told to behave like an adults and get spoken to like babies . It’s like when they behave like kids their not allowed to but when they try to take control of what they want to do they have to do what adults tell them . Kids get angry because they’ve been suppressing their energy for hours on end and can’t channel it like adults can . At the end of the day , kids are kids , and a row of desks and having to focus in silence for hours doesn’t let them have childhoods . Adults ask young teens why they want jobs and to leave school and be independent, it’s because ever since they were 7 years old they’ve been told to behave like adults and are sick of being seen as less than their teachers . It’s not the kids fault that the school systems outdated and corrupt . And another thing , homework is just a way to stress kids out at home as well as school it literally wastes their only time to unwind on more pointless stress .
The nurture group is a lot like the additional resource centre my son goes to, the resource centre is their for children with Complex social and emotional needs. They also seek to the root cause of the problem.
( My son joined the resource centre after he was regularly disrupting class and having to be sent home almost every day)
Thanks to the resource centre he goes to. We found out that he had:
• Autism
• ADHD
• Tourette syndrome
And a form of dyspraxia
I worked as a teacher for a large part of my professional life. A big issue is that men don't want to be teachers and that the male role model and influence has vanished. As a man, I gave up teaching because the risk that a mere allegation posed to my career and life was too much of a risk so I chose to teach adults instead. I bet you all noticed a complete lack of males in the school system. I would also wager that many of those children come from single mother households.
LEON
I'm a female teacher. And you are absolutely correct.
I’m a single mother and I worry about this lack of Male role model for my son everyday! I try to be both mum and dad!
At my primary school there wasn't a single male teacher
I noticed the few male teachers and I noticed the male students listened more to the males. Male teachers gravitate to senior school and I can understand why.
I feel awful for Levi. Haven't the school ever considered 1-1 learning so he doesn't have to go into a classroom that is clearly causing him stress and anxiety? I hated watching that kid being restrained and treated like a criminal without the teachers considering other learning options for him. But no schools don't think like that do they because they want to shove kids into a busy, noisy classroom day in day out and teach them all a group mindset and force them to work "in a team" denying any individual learning opportunities for any of them. I'm sick of this "you must be like everyone else otherwise your not trying" mindset that most schools seem to have. School isn't a nice place for kids like him, for those reasons. No one considering other possibilities just "you need to make a choice" over and over, which usually only makes it easy for the teachers not the child 🙄
Awwww do you???? What if it were your child in the same class having a chair thrown at them, injured , cant learn due to the same kids who we are all spending all day saying awww awwww !! Something is wrong and the kids behaving get the least attention.
@@rippinitupwithjamie1478 Most children that have problems at school are like that due to problems going on at home. I do not think it is right for teachers to punish a child without looking for an underlying cause first. For example when a child is living in a difficult home and the teachers exclude them they are being sent to the place where the abuse is for days at a time the teachers only reason is that childs behavior being "disruptive" or "out of control" , the teachers fail to wonder why the child is behaving that way and they don't even question that the child could could be struggling , they are just given negative labels and told to stay home, that same home that could be abusive. Some children act up as a cry for help, ever heard of an "Attachment Disorder" ? Attachment Disorders are caused by neglect of a childs emotional or physical needs in their early childhood (0-5 years) sometimes Attachment Disorders show through a childs behavior which can include a lot of anger and aggression. Depression and anxiety can also show through a childs behavior, they may seem "disruptive" to a teacher but in reality the child is needing help and doesn't know how to express what is happening to them or that they need support. Usually these are behaviors that teachers punish. I am not saying that other children in the class should be forced to put up with it, what I am saying is that it isn't right for teachers to punish children and claim they are "badly behaved" when they have not looked at the underlying problems which in a lot of cases is caused by a bad home life and children struggling mentally and don't know how to explain what's happening or that they need help so they show it through their behavior instead. Most of the time they don't need punishment they need support.
I don't really know what you want the individual teachers to do. You seem to want them to have infinite time and resources in their hands and they don't. It's like yelling at a McDonald's employee for the long waiting times for food when that low-level employee is doing everything they can under bad management. Be mad at the people who actually run the schools like this.
@gemmawilson9227 I have a similar role in a secondary school. We’d love to support every need of a child. Whether that’s 1-1 support, alternative timetables, but the fact is the funding just isn’t there that’s needed for facilities, resources and staffing. Special schools are closing, the special schools left are full so these kids are pushed into mainstream schools and with limited resources we adapt as much as we can to the needs of the kids. We as a school say we can’t meet a child’s needs but if a child has an EHCP and names a school we have to give them a place. Local authorities recommend mainstream schools Eventhough its not suitable because there is no other facilities elsewhere. It’s sad, at times unsafe and extremely frustrating for parents, students and the teachers that work with them, but we try our very best!
And for the restraint, when a child is hanging off a light, throwing scissors at staff, climbing 8 ft fences they are over stimulated. So taking them to a room with minimal stimuli is going to be best to calm them down. If they aren’t being aggressive and dangerous an adult will join them in that room. We also do aftercare after this time, whether that’s a sleep, eat/drink, music, colouring and also talking about what happened and how they felt.
It’s not nice but it’s better than the harm that can be done!
There maybe schools where a child’s needs and background are ignored but in this case, these kids will have key workers who have regular contact with parents and caters. Fully aware of how difficult their situations are, so when consequences are out in place for negative behaviours those circumstances are entirely considered!
@joeybakes7506 I understand, the government play a big part in children's education and it seems when it comes to funding special needs education, they are terrible. I am all for a quiet room where a child goes to take their anger out or calm down, it is the restraining him like a criminal and trying to drag him into the school/classroom that I didn't like. But a quiet room is a much better option and aftercare is a great idea. A special school near me nearly shut until parents had a meeting with the council and demanded it stayed open as they would refuse to send their kids to a mainstream school as it wasn't right for their children, it is sad that they had to fight to keep that school open, but the council have questioned shutting it again after this academic year and I hate to think what will happen to the children there. It isn't just for kids with special needs it is for children who suffer from anxiety and depression and mainstream school isn't the right place for them. Until children's mental health is taken as a priority in our education system by the government, I don't think we will see many changes when it comes to supporting special needs children or those who struggle with trauma or mental health difficulties. The education system in this country needs to change.
Those primary’s chills be bigger than my secondary school
How my Mum managed to teach Primary age for 40yrs astounds me.......I'd kill this lot if they were in my class!
Dear god, u must know your child is this bad before you send them to school!!! Are you parenting them????
my mother did, teachers had more control up until a few years ago. now they have to roll over and let the kids do what they want. it's tragic
My mother taught all ages for many years. In 1968 she taught the Joy group, so called, at Preston High school for girls because they were all troubled kids who were dumped into the one class and my mother taught them for every lesson except PE. Now my Mum is awful at Math, she uses her fingers and toes to count with. The math teacher would talk my mum through the lesson and my mother would run into the classroom write it on the blackboard, telling the girls everything she could remember. Then she'd say 'That's it, I can't remember anything else! ' The girls would work it out and the ones who understood taught the class and attempted to teach my mum! It was a wonderful life lesson for them. They didn't have to know everything to be able to succeed in life. In the final exams at the end of the year, the Joy groups math results were on our with the A class's results, much to my mother's amusement. I do remember quite a few of those girls buying my mother a gift with their first paycheck. She was their last teacher, it was their final year of school, year 10.
What the heck else are they gunna do with their child even if they do recognise their behaviour is bad?? School is statutory in the UK, what are they gunna go keep them off school just because their behaviour is bad and rack up thousands of pounds worth of fines?! Not even considering most of the parents will need to work!
“ ‘It’s not fair’ Nothing is fair!” I felt that-
jesus. this didnt exist back in the days when i went to school and im not even 30.
It didn’t exist when I was in primary school and that was only 5 years ago
because over the last few years society has gone down the bloody toilet permanently
It did. Early intervention however didn't.
I'm 37 and wish this was an option when I was in school, there were so many kids that would have benefited from the nature room : /
Aron Luminous yup a ruler to the hands once was good enough for me to ever act out in my classes at school. Nuns do not play they had zero problems with smacking your hands or butt in front of the entire class.
That quiet room should be filled with white noise.. it works wonders
I wonder when we'll stop looking at the children and start looking at the school system that does not cater for neurodivergent people as the problem? ADD/ADHD, ODD, FAS/E, OCD and Bipolar Disorder go undiagnosed and are not catered for by an education system which hasn't changed much in 200 years. No wonder we're losing these kids, and losing great teachers who quite because they cannot cope with limited resources and support.
New thinking required.
Happy to see the parents were on board and was ready to work with the school so it could be come together and work for the children. All schools, nursery in this day and age should have nurture rooms.
Have they tried not living in Glasgow? That would mess anyone up.
They need to be having serious talks with the parents! These kids are disrupting and making it difficult for the other kids to learn
These kids need to be punished
marc labrie that’s not how to deal with a child like this. pls keep ur outside opinions to ur self.
I can count on one hand throughout my entire school attendance that any child disruption/violence happened, so it makes me wonder what is happening these days that is different? I recently listened to a radio show about teachers in one school wearing bullet proof vests in America. Other than mental illness, how you behave and what is appropriate starts at home with parents. I think rather than exposing other children and teachers to such stress, shall we go back to institutions for the difficult/troubled children? integration is not always fair to everyone.
In Germany they have different schools for children with violent behavoural problems / ADHD and for children who have S.E.N ie very slow learners and mild mental health handicaps, other schools for children who have more severe mental health handicaps. Staff ratios and support are brilliant and the buildings are also brilliant. Why should children with normal behaviour have their school days disrupted. It's a dam sight better system than we have in the UK. Wonder what their home lives are like? Looks like some of them need psychological help
Denise G- Hill and that school system chooses a child's life at 11 and that is wrong
themysteriousgamer
no not so
These are not kids with special needs, these are simply spoiled brats who need a good shouting at
I have been to the special school in Jever in Germany where my brothers foster son goes. No spoilt brats. There are children with learning difficulties whose Mothers were on alcohol and drugs whilst pregnant. There are children who have brain damage and can't cope in an ordinary school setting. There are children from violent backgrounds who have severe emotional problems.none of them could cope in a ordinary school setting.
Because segregation is illegal and morally wrong. Beyond that, studies show that mainstreaming is good for both disabled students AND "normal" students.
Incredibly insightful and intelligent children!! Every moment with these children and supporting them is creating an amazing human!!
Nope. Bratty, s.tty children
Brilliant programs, I am so impressed by how effective they are.
Ok is it just me or did any one else hear Jason, while playing by himself say he was a “bad boy” no wonder he is having trouble, he has been told he is a bad boy, way to often
I mean, if you think about it, public school is quite literally demanded of these children; not one of them are here of their own volition. So what happens when you stick a bunch of kids in an environment where they are allowed very little autonomy or where they have difficulty navigating due to anxiety or learning disabilities? Some will naturally rebel. I was one of them. It's a terrible feeling, knowing you will have to go to a stressful place, day after day after day.
One issue, in my mind, is that the student-teacher ratio for most public schools is way, way off. Who taught children before public schools came around? Their parents! At most, that's 5 or 6 kids per parent, as opposed to the 30-1 ratio of a lot of classrooms. That's too much to put on any teacher. It's no wonder it's so difficult to contain the chaos at most public schools. A child is not a pet, but a fully realized human being who requires more 1-on-1 support than most taxpayer funded institutions can provide for them. We as a society need to radically rethink about what it truly takes to educate someone.
Here was the anger management training I got as a kid "just walk away" every time I did "Where do you think you're going!?" And a physical confrontation always ensued because the teacher would forcefully grab me this included the special Ed teachers that told me to just walk away. Circa late 90's in the U.S.
The trouble is that many struggling children are not disruptive, and the quietly suffering ones can be neglected. I do think that Nurture Groups sound positive, though.
I never disrupt classes at all it’s the teachers that are always being disrespectful towards me and they never show any respect for me whatsoever
What most parents fail to realize is a public education was never to be a child's primary source of education. It was meant to be an extension and support of a parents teaching.
If only we could go back to the days when you should have already taught your child the basics.
I remember having to be tested before admitting me into school. All my children as well.
When parents do their job a child finds school enjoyable. They know whats expected and have no anxiety or fear.
I raised nine of my own children and several fosters. They all entered school with the ability to read, write, numbers, name, primary colors. All the basics one should expect a kindergartener to know upon entering.
The kinder teacher of the youngest child said to me in 1999 I am so sorry but your child is going to have a rough time in my class. I am looking for a class better fit for him throughout the district but have yet to find one. If he remains here he will begin to hate school having long term problems.
What the hell? Yes those words popped out of my mouth.
She said we've completed testing and not a single child in this school but your child is prepared to begin school.
It had been over ten years since I enrolled a child in school. I was disgusted. Why should teachers and students who have proper parents suffer due to the laziness of neglectful parents.
Do bother giving me the BS have to work crap because I am simply going to ask you one question. Why the hell would you have a child if you did not have the time and resources for said child?
Don't come at me with the special needs of the child either because some of my foster kids had far more severe mental and physical scars than most others yet they all entered school prepared. ADD to ADHD to Autism all the way to Downs yet each and every one of them entered school prepared.
Children who are disruptive or are born into the unfortunate situation of having neglectful parents should be removed from school so they do not hender the education of the masses.
Hi I agree with you. My dad's a lecturer and my mum a social worker. Even though they were both out working one of them read me a book each night. When I went to school I could tell the time, read and write basic sentences and stories and speak basic bits of French. I love my parents for all they did, (sometimes my dad would take me to a museum instead of school he said 'a schooling is not an education' lol) I was recently diagnosed with bipolar but feel I suffered episodes from being about 8. Every child is different and there are kids who will internalise or vocalise their emotions and I think this type of support is needed. But I agree with your comment. I hope when I have children I will be like my parents x
Everyone has the right to education!
Francesca Foster my daughter is 10 and I still read TO her daily. She enjoys it and I enjoy it while she’ll still let me. Plus she can enjoy books she can’t quite read herself yet. She can just curl up and listen. We ended up taking her out of school last year when she was 9 because a 14 year old was beating her up all the time. This behavior was so common and she hated going. We didn’t put her back and chose to homeschool. Those kinds of kids make normal kids quite anxious
My children were both the same, I got reprimanded for teaching my eldest both the phonetic and the normal alphabet before she started school. She could read, write and do simple maths, and I worked.
There is no excuse for bad parenting.
My youngest is Autistic and this came with a whole new set of challenges, but again she entered school being able to write and simple maths, reading was difficult as we later found out she is dyslexic.
I home educated her from 13 years old because the school system was not working for her, she attended college and did a music course and now holds down a job while she decides which direction to take her life. I firmly believe that if I had left her in school she would have been damaged for life.
Both have grown to well-adjusted adults, although my youngest still struggles with social skills and anxiety to change. I spent hours researching Autism and finding ways to support my child and am now supporting my eldest daughter who has a son who is Autistic.
I still don't agree with some of the working practices in school, such as isolation, as this can have a traumatic effect on children. Adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) can affect children for life, and more needs to be done to support, tackle and educate about this.
But then what happens to the kids of neglectful parents? Do they just not get an education and therefore are doomed to failure simpym for having crappy parents?
Nurture groups work! They should be in every school!!
They're not "nurture groups" they are basic civilization groups.Taking absolute savages and trying to instill civilizational basics.
This seems like the same problem that happens at my secondary school. The reason behind the kids behaviour is usually a result of problems at home. One of the girls that acts up was abused when she was younger and her dad is now under a restraining order. And another one of the girls hasn’t seen her dad in 4 years because he has been in jail and her mum is a recovering drug addict. It isn’t always the kids fault. Kids learn from their parents actions and if their parents actions are showing that it is ok to shout and swear and throw things then how are the kids meant to learn common rules and responsibilities. ( I live just outside of Glasgow )
No our she will be in child service theirs not that bad go to my school crazy time swearing punching fights gangs and it’s only primary
I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Parenting is a full-time job and should be treated as such. When I was little, I lived in Germany (on base. Army brat!)
My mother told me of Kindergeld. This roughly translates to "children money."
Basically they pay parents to stay home with their kiddos! This gives at least one parent the time at home to be with their child and make sure they have the attention they need. It also took the strain off daycare centers and whatnot.
Something like this needs to be established in the US in my opinion. And it looks like Great Britain could benefit from it as well.
That's not how Kindergeld works, neither is it intended this way. You get it whether you stay at home or not, no matter. And it is most certainly not enough enough to replace a full payment. It's less than 200 € a month.
I'm sorry but how is it such a challenge to stay in class and have basic manners. The parents needed to teach manners, basic respect, teach the bloody kid how to speak properly and how to not get angry and calm down when they are angry. These parents failed these kids and they're only in primary school. It makes me so sad
imagine them showing their kids this when they’re older
It would be an embarrassment for them
In the US this is a violation of HIPPA. I'm shocked it isn't in the UK as well. Unless they haven't tested these kids for any psychological disorders... Which makes them fools.
Have to say , never yet met a Levi that was well behaved .
I taught one and he was lovely
I have one lol....he's a normal kid
Sit next to the kid and ask them what’s going on. And then, LISTEN. that’s what they need. Even if they are being disruptive they are screaming for help. They need help. Not to be screamed at.
3 minutes into the video and I question why the teachers have to deal with this. Seriously why? Send them make to mom and dad. Why do the other kids have to suffer this kid of behavior?
Corinne C it’s not the kids fault at all . It’s the system that makes them suppress all their energy to sit and focus for hours and not all kids can cope with that but the systems not designed for individuality and is more designed for a statistic .
As a society we've chosen a group of people to responsible for all the children while the other adults do their jobs. Most of education is just monitoring children , keeping them occupied while the rest can get work done.
@@hannahdiane8451 thank you exactly what I was thinking. When they pointed out that they identified many different needs ect, well obviously 🤦♀️
When i was 5 years old my father took me from my mother with her conscent, to live with him and his new wife.
It quickly bacame apparent to me that she took an instant dislike to me, more like hatered. She had four children of her own. Anyway the abuse started off almost immediately making me stand in the corner of the room facing the wall for absolutely no reason that a five year old child would understand anyway. The days went on with low level mental abuse, well to a five year old boy it was devastating. My father was a long distant driver so all this abuse took place when he was out, but he could see that I was unhappy there. So her four children started to bully me and attacked me in the house. They had a dog that use to nip me, and they would all just laugh. I started to hear her mother say to her, "Why don't you just dump him somewhere." So after a year of mental tourment at the hands of everyone in that house, she finally decided to take her mothers advice and dump me on the street I was only 6 years. So Social services placed me with a foster family but after a year the moved me to a children's home. That was a blow to me because I became part of a loving family. When I was 8 years old they moved me to another children's gome where I stayed for 8 years. I left the children's home when I was 16, then they moved me to another children's home for a year, then when I was 17 they moved me to an half way house to get me use to an independant life. I left the care system as I went in feeling alone, worried, & affraid. Of course i have not put every awful experience in this post. Thank You.................................
I am not an English Native speaker (married to one though) but I ADORE the Scottish accent
Poor kid give the kids space if kids ask u to go away let them be until they have calm down but make sure saftey comes first.
I went to school with a kid like that, but he was completely capable of controlling himself. He ended up in jail. Sometimes they can control themselves and are just being impossible, other times they need professional help, meds, or both. I don't think it's fair to paint the teachers as total victims either though.
Hopefully this is a start for the future where every school has a nurture room. It should be compulsory and funded by the Government. With 14,000,000 families living in poverty life is tough for these young pupils. We should stop being judgmental and just support families and allow these children to be able develop their potential. In doing so it allows the teachers not to be distracted and support the others in the classroom. A win win situation for everybody.
He has Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ODD)... My niece has it and Levi's outburst was identical to hers... It sucks...
ODD is a crock. Levi is just behaving badly because of bad parenting.
Levi is given too much power. Too many options instead of clear direction. Imagine being a willing student with these nightmare kids. I am sure the diligent children wish they could be in a calmer environment. I went to a school like this for 18m . Every day was a nightmare. I failed every subject. Transferred to a different school (selective government school), and suddenly top of class. Geography is destiny.
In South Africa, we didnt get a chance to sit and reason, we got smacked with a wooden spoon. All these poor teachers get dumped with kids who's parents cant take on the role of raising them with boundaries. This is such a wonderful form of birth control!
If it was a problem in schools in upmarket areas I am sure the funding would be no problem.
Denise G- Hill but it's not and has never been. Anyone who has children without any financial security is foolish
To me, having all those teachers coming up and crowding me would be very annoying and that’s not want you want this kids to feel.
I swear I saw Jordan in another documentary before! She became a lot better.
Jayne Devlin the nurture room
She was in the nurture room
Yeah, a lot better got sent up for attempted murder these are quite a few years old. She fell through the cracks somewhere or someone dropped the ball?? I'd say she wasn't a success story. Sad I was cheering for her in the docu the nurture room. smh
Jayne Devlin apparently she became worse and tried.to murder someone
Christine Newsome found not evidence to support this.
It’s such torture for a child… so sad. Teachers need to find a better way than this. This is crazy !!!
The children today don't have enough parenting ,parents have to work ,so therefore they don't get the guidance and love that they should have ,it's sad the way the world has to be neglect our pressious children ,it's the children that will suffer ,and this is how are next generation is is being raised by strangers ,because parents need to work , so our children are being thrown into the world to be raised by anyone ,and everyone , people who realy don't give a dam about them , and using some most off them for thier own sick ways , so very sad , no one can truely love the CHILDERN like thier own parents !and a parent does not have to be the one who gave them birth , just a great person that gives much love as disaplent .
They are so very fortunate for this program rather them institutionalization. Hopefully the children will have enough time in this program before they get to old & end up in adult correction sytem.
Your right but here's the thing I blame the ganster raps and how they can pick up anti social behaviour from other in their environment and how they copy actions online this may have got worse because of the Internet
Well this is the kind of parenting we're gonna get as long as we tell women they're the same as men, needing to work and get degrees and earn a living in order to be worth anything.
Women generally have the perfect instincts for raising children. They know how to deal with them, they give just the right amount of love and care, and they teach them everything slowly and patiently.
Fathers have a big role too, but one of the parents, in my opinion, has to be with the child anytime they're not at school. They have to gain their trust and love, always guide them through their new experiences, and be involved in every aspect of their life. THAT is how you raise healthy kids who will grow up to be responsible, mature adults. And God do we miss that so much nowadays.
Heather, we live in a very confused society. Children need boundaries, and these are continuously being eroded by everyone from governments to do - gooders.
Not really
The home life could have a huge impact! And undiagnosed problems. Bless them
Bless them? You look like a young millennial parent, that's the undiagnosed problem. Not just you, modern snowflake society as a whole. Sure give the kid a label and treat with drugs, teach early that drugs are always the solution, see what happens when they leave school......
You don’t now if they have home problems
I will admit this year are school have gone terrible, it's not noticible around teachers but loads of kids swear behind teachers backs and do really bad stuff and say innapropiate stuff too, i hope none of my teachers see this
They don’t even go to the principals office.
Principal comes to them, asks what they want todo
@@puccipuu1797 had teacher
im not sure being allowed to play with toys is the answer when everyone else is working but i dont know what would really.
the playing is their time out to express their emotions that need to come out before they can engage in their work like everyone else, and builds the important social skills they may lack from the consequences of their behaviour. and then there is the back up evidence that at the end of the year, they've come out doing better than their peers in the mainstream classrooms.
A bullet
@@jamiegoode5215 balloucs.
Toys will calm people down that’s why their their
Because they’re learning social skills. Playing is crucial to children. You don’t know anything really.
Also I would like to mention that it isn't always the parent's fault. Sometimes it's mainly down to the child on how they retaliate and react to certain situations. I've got extremely good parents in my opinion, I'm a completely different person at school than I am to home.
I see people typing that you should use violence but no just bring them up good. No good parent has to use violence because if you are a truly a good parent you shouldn’t have to use violence
I love this comment. A lot of parents have a kid and expect them to just follow orders and be good then expect a gold meddle just because the have a kid. but it actual work and if you don't bring em up the media or the wrong crowd will.
If I had known about a quiet room in my school I would have acted up, too.
Sshh It was called the music department practise rooms.
Tantrums are communication. These kids need to be disciplined because their behavior is unacceptable, but they also need to be listened to because they clearly cannot effectively communicate their emotions and their needs.
These kids either have neurological disorders such as ADHD, ODD, DMDD etc Or they have a difficult home life. The way they are being handled isn't the best way to do it. We went through this with my child and she needed therapy and a different parenting approach. She's done marvelous since these changes were made. Kids want to do well, if they can -Dr. R Greene
I agree 100%
With kids like these. They need to be taken into foster care with better parents.
When I was a younger teacher I had a nursery nurse student in my class. She wanted to change the Home Corner to do some role play. I was very pleased as she hadn’t shown much initiative. She turned the area into a shop and without a word of a lie she started tile playing shoplifting!!
I hope the woman at the beginning who said she is “a huge asset to the school” isn’t the one who says that she mustn’t make the bad child know that he’s bad!!!!
Probably the same woman who said that once she puts Levi in the “BIC(??)” room that Levi can’t cope anymore when the fact is SHE can’t cope anymore.
Giving Jason a tiger to ‘impersonate’ then complaining that he is using it to bite and hit other children is mind blowing 😶.
Telling the rest of the class that they are “the same as [badly behaved] Jordan” is disgraceful.
If the woman in the “Army family” actually worked in the army with her husband then she has pi$sed me off forever. She wasn’t forced to become selfish and work to leave her kids coming home to no-one, and if it was just the fact that they moved the children from place to place to place when they were growing up it still absolutely her and her husband‘s fault, so crying for the government IOW US TAXPAYERS to help her child out is outrageous and disgraceful!!
If they don’t watch Levi
he might become another Jon Venables.
Matt B mainstream school isn’t the best thing for every child
RIP Jamie
How sad our society has created an environment where nuture rooms are required. It takes a village…. we no longer offer kids a village, absent fathers, blended complicated family structures and isolation from reality via devices. Teachers shouldn’t have to teach damaged kids life skills but that’s the reality.
The schools are doing amazing. So patient and understanding. Sadly this isn't the case in many homes where the cause of the behavior starts. Although there are some kids who just do not behave no matter how great the parents are. i think this is the majority.
I can remember being that age at school and I just hated being trapped sat down in a classroom all day.
I was an afterschool nanny for a 5 year old and he had many behavioral issues… it was not fun. His mom didn’t seem to really help. She worked from home so I was only there from the time I picked him up from school till his mom got off work. It was a nightmare
poor parenting, period
4:35 ah yes that child hood british classic memory *WHISTLE* STAND STILL PLEASEE! 😂
The way they restrain the kid at the beginning is like in mental health units.. The 'quiet room' is basically a PICU room/'de-escalation room', this is frightening.
isla bond haa
Yeah, it is. I’d know. I’ve been there the times, and they made me hate them. They did everything they could to aggravate me, then tried to calm me down like they were some hero coming on their white horse and saving me. It was bullshit.
I was thinking this. There are much better ways this behaviour could have been managed. I’m not trained in SEN and now Work in a diff career, but from working in primary schools as an assistant I have much higher expectations of the SEN workers, looks like they need training and help to do their job effectively
Kids like Levi are reasons alone why teachers deserve pay raises
If they handled my child like that he would never go back to the school.
if you have loads of children who are challenging you should put them into different classes from the mainstream ones as it is unfair on the children who actually want to learn
Disgraceful amount of restraint used!!! You should only use restraint as a last resort to keep children and others safe. It should never be used to drag a calm child from a playground to a seclusion room just because they are refusing to go to class. That is totally aggressive by the staff and totally inappropriate.
I have and 8 year old nephew who is difficult like these kids. He argues with me, his parents, and his teachers. He tries to distract others, refusing to do homework at school, annoys his little brother, everyone has to get onto him to behave.
Also how come that school only has a pavement playground? Where’s the grass fields and swings and sandboxes ??
This isn't America dude.
Please watch the whole video before passing judgement- it easy to cast blame and claim the kids just need a belting but these programs are having a demonstrable positive impact. There is no point pining for the good old days. This is the world we live in and investing in children’s futures builds a better community.
finally a recent comment that speaks common sense!!
I am student teaching, and I have to take courses specifically on classroom management and positive behavior support systems, etc. I feel like the staff in these schools have done a wonderful job in transforming the lives of children. The comments here have quite the opinions, but the majority of the public doesn’t really understand the limitations and rules outlined by the government when it comes to dealing with students.
Remember the recent tribunal case for disciplining a brat? It is well publicised... no hope.
There were 2-3 quiet rooms in Secondary Schools - the music department practice rooms.
Hard man Levi
They give them a chance to decide what they want to do. Go to a class they don't want to go to, or get locked in a room. Right.
Wait until they go to secondary school
Levi is taking advantage of the passive responses and would likely be relieved with stronger parameters. He is clearly incapable of making rational choices.
Nurture groups are a fantastic idea in my opinion. Funds have been sufficiently cut since this documentary was filmed. Mental health amongst children are barely considered now-a-days. I think sitting a child in an empty, dull room is not the answer.
This is why we need more male primary school teachers