The way he disrespected Jason Spezza with a major milestone on the line and his family in the crowd shows Mike Babcock’s character as a man and a coach
he's also the same fucker that denied Mike Modano his 1500th game and healthy scratched him. fuck babcock. my 7 year old could have led detroit and team canada to win
Jeff Blashill seemed to have learned some of the tricks from Babcock. Although it wasn't with a high profile vet and more with a rookie Dennis Cholowski. Yes turns out he wasn't much of an NHLer but he started off really well in his rookie season. Blashill healthy scratched him the first time in his home town (Vancouver) with all his family and friends attending the game. He healthy scratched him during the dad road trip while his dad was there (some will get healthy scratched on that trip so not as big a deal) and he healthy scratched on his own bobblehead night...yes fans got a bobblehead of a player being healthy scratched by the coach. Also heard that Babcock grabbed a St Louis Blues blogger (Andy Strickland) by the throat and threatening him in the hall of the arena in St Louis because he had written a blog about the Detroit players not liking Babcock.
He did a similar thing to Spezza in 2019. Healthy scratch in the leafs season opener, would've been Spezza's first game as a Leaf (his hometown) against his former team
What pisses me off most is that Babcock is never going to have to sit in front of a camera and explain why he did what he did. He's just going to fade into obscurity...
@Canuckfan124 you're so soft. And so is Marner. That's why his playoffs production is trash, Babs was trying to instill mental toughness and leadership.
@@JudyPitcherbro a redneck from Mississippi coulda coached that team to gold. That’s like getting a First Nations from Yukon coaching the nba dream team. They winning regardless
Would your mom have won Gold in 1997? And I love how coaching a talented team is easy, it's just bad luck when the #1 seed loses I guess. You're a dork
There's no place for him in hockey. Any team he ever won with was super-talented. The Wings were a powerhouse that should have won more and the Olympics were a Management conflagration with unmatched superstar line-up that you or I could have opened the gate for and been credited as coaching. He is an egotistical, mean and petty man.
Biz and Commie are too of my heroes for their work in bringing this POS down. I actually think Bcock should have to go into some sort of narcissism and psychopathy treatment program at his own expense. I can sympathize with someone who has a substance abuse problem, but not someone who possibly contributes to people developing such problems. I feel sorry for Bcock's family. They must be quite traumatized.
The Marner story is slightly worse than what you mentioned. Babcock refused the list where Marner put himself at the bottom and forced him to make a new list, where he put Kadri at the bottom
@@icas80 Dude, that shit is psychologically devastating. Imagine being the new guy at an office and the boss makes you rank your coworkers and you don't even know them well. Then, the boss huddles everyone in and says "hey look at the ranked list fuckface made of you guys" and then have to sit there and listen to it.
@@Trigger200284 A hockey team is not the same as an office. Those dudes go to war with each other. They punch ppl in the face to stand up for them. Did you Dubas homers not learn coddling 20 year old millionaires doesn't work? Sometime they need the army treatment. Cause it's war.
@@Trigger200284 10 mil + a year and you can't suck up having your feelings hurt? There's a reason this Leafs team has perpetually underperformed. They're soft Divas like you that run to HR. Shut up and do your job.
As briefly mentioned in the video I believe he also scratched spezza in his what would have been his first game as a leaf because it was a game against Ottawa and I guess he didn’t want spezza to have that moment
And the Leafs hired him for 8 years knowing full well what he was like. Are we to believe Shanahan didn't know? And these Leafs fans keep believing this organization is trying to win a cup. I wonder why none of these players have sued the franchises and if we're going to see that now that everybody knows about it?
Judging people on how they look behind the bench while coaching is nonsense. Just like the title of this video. However, Scotty Bowman is considered the greatest coach in NHL history. How many players hated him while they played for him? Probably, all of them.
Somebody needs to give Modano a 1 day contract ,give him a shift in the game that would recognize him for the 1500 games he should have played…. This would be the ultimate sacrifice for him and would put the final knife in Babs forehead.
In all honesty, Modano should haven’t even been in the league that year. He was done and washed up. He’s lucky Babcock even played him after his injury. But I will agree it was a super douche move to only scratch him for that 1 game.
One thing that no one is talking about is ytf did Shanny hire Babs knowing what he did? Shanahan has to know a lot of these stories, he played for him ffs. And somehow he thought he was the guy to make the Leafs a winner.
Shanny was a key player on the Red Wings when Babs was there. He wouldn't have been a target. His interactions with Babcock would have gone much the same as Jenner's or Goudreau. Neither of them were subjected to the Babcock treatment in their meetings with him. It was a young player who Babcock targeted.
@@davidkruse4030 Yes, but was still a key part of the team. He wasn't ever part of Babcock's target demographic. He wasn't a young player trying to establish himself nor was he an old player just trying to stay in the league. He was an established veteran who was part of the leadership core of the team when Babcock got there. Not the type of player Babcock would target because he would have the ability to talk directly to the GM and get Babcock fired. Babs is a classic bully, he never targeted anyone with the ability to fight back. Just like Jenner made his statement about his interaction with Babcock. I don't doubt Jenner was 100% honest. Mainly because Babcock would never target the Captain of the team the way he would a rookie. Shanny wore an A during the season he played for Babcock. He wasn't a target.
@@brianeleighton totally get that but Shanny was hired as president of TML. One would expect executive level thinking from him. If Shanny seriously thought that Babs bully tactics was what Toronto needed then you seriously have to question if Shanny should be president
Players love playing for Torts for the most part. Tortorella is a hard ass, not an asshole and a bad guy. He will get in your face and scream at you or maybe call you out in front of the team, sure. However, it is always hockey related and players always know where they stand with him and what his expectations of them are. Babcock just likes to pull mental warfare on players to be a bully. It is even worse because that bastard actually has a degree in Psychology. He clearly didn't do that to learn how to better support his players but instead how to better torture them.
Diffrance is Tortz is not a bad human he is just a hard ass who motivates his players sometimes he goes overboard but he cares about his team that's why Tortorella is a good coach and he is honest he tells it like it is if your not playing well he will let you know
@@dixiewinxeqandmore356 There is a positive that comes out of a psychology degree? Please enlighten me. My experience is being paired with a couple of so-called best psychologists in Canada, then noticing no progress, the only noticeable thing? Both of these psychologists pricks, had the largest per hour charge in the country, and two HUGE Fuck-off clocks in their offices, one on the wall behind my head, and the other on the wall behind the psych’s chair. Psychologists are fucking professional clock-watchers. You are better off with a 1/4 oz. Of decent weed.
There were previous versions of Babcock in the NHL's not-so-distant past. I'm thinking of Mike Keenan and Punch Imlach. Imlach drove his best player (Frank Mahovlich) to a nervous breakdown and then chased him out of Toronto, which turned out to be a good thing for Mahovlich. I'm into baseball history and while there have been some odd ball characters in MLB history who became managers, none have lasted the way some of these psycho NHL coaches have (you can throw Eddie Shore, Bob Pulford & Jack Adams in with the others--Adams, who the NHL coach of the year trophy was named after was himself a Babcock level psycho).
Im not too big of a hockey fan, but this came into my feed. Man, how is is possible with all the tough guys in this sport did this dude escape not getting beat within an inch of his life at some point along the way?
This dude reminds me EXACTLY of a boss I had at one of my old jobs. He was a COMPLETE narcissistic bully. I’ve worked for tough/demanding bosses in my life, but never had I experienced a guy like him. He was like Jekyl and Hyde- patients LOVED him because he was very charismatic (he’s a Chiropractor), but he couldn’t keep employees longer than like 6 months at a time. I tried EVERYTHING to please this guy, but it was NEVER good enough. He would break you down by pulling you into his office to verbally berate you and make you feel worthless. Most patients LOVED me and always wanted to work with me, but he regularly tore me down and made me feel worthless. After 2 years, I had a mental breakdown and just walked out one day. Best decision I’ve ever made.
Insane production behind this video. I can tell a lot went into researching and crafting of the video. Definitely one of the best hockey story-telling videos I've seen by far, great job!
I generally agree, except for the dirty laundry (?) on the sofa. With a dark shirt, dark sofa, and dark plant behind him, I think a green screen would have been much better, or a different backdrop without green screen needed. Also, some of the overlays were way too briefly onscreen. But overall, it was a fine job.
I'll take a simple guess and corect me if i'm wrong. No one here has ever played any games in the NHL. I'll admit that was a simple guess almost like I were to walk into a casino with all of you kunts. The vast of you would hit those slots, right away you're down 19 persent. 19 perecent coach? Whatcha mean? I mean if you think you can judge any way in any fathum but go into any casino can put a quarter in a slot as i'm sure many kunts have done in this half assed critique. You'er a looser, you've been a looser since you were 15, you're a looser now your 19 and if you still think you know hockey at 30. Your wife only oves you cause you work for your daddy's business. Just think, you have enough time to realize that not 1 NHL player cares one second of who you are. I know why show up to the cancer society and it's time for pictures. When you're 5 years older do your Hero's show up where kids are in critical care now? It's all about $. Nothing more, it's IN their contract.
@@canadianroot Dude, that shit will come in time. He's learning and I for one thought it was top notch, those little things will come as the channel grows. For him to make videos in his spare time and for little revenue, and for YOUR entertainment, I think it's 100% acceptable.
@@Trigger200284 Well, there YOU have it, folks. Laundry takes time. Come on. It was constructive criticism. There wasn't a scintilla of malice in my remarks.
You can kind of see it in his eyes that he would be like that. They are pinpoint, beady, and bitter. Dinner plates falling from a rooftop that restart again and again and again.
Damn dude I don't even understand this but you nailed it. What he did to Chelios, Spezza, and commodore was petty Beyond belief. What he did to Modano is unforgivable, it makes it hard to believe his actions don't extend into his personal life.
@@friedsensei no he didn't use your brain be a sensible human .. the way someone looks doesn't control the person they are . are u a racist because that's how racists think? u really wanna follow their mentality and base it off someone eyes .. that's a low iq moment . some people have something known as resting bit*h face ... and their very nice people atleast some of them because their just humans ...
Lol in a game we're a guy can punch you in the face and only get a 5 min penalty.... players actually complain about verbal abuse? Hockey had been pussified 😂
GOOD FOR THE PLAYERS...Strength in numbers,solidarity.The players he singled out were all really nice guys,was he jealous of them,their relationships,friendships.What a Loser.He has lots of money,just nobody wants to be around him...ANY team thinking about hiring him,even Jr B,would be hurting some players for sure.He will always have that "odour".
Babcock broke Franzen. The abuse was so much worse than this video describes. And apparently any time somebody tried to speak up Babcock would threaten to have them traded. He ruined Franzen’s life.
I thought about that...probably lots of folks didn't want to go to jail or be sued over a conniving piece of work like that who'd be made into the victim after goading someone into understandably getting physical with him.
What seems surprising is that none of the retired players are taking a swing at him. I wonder what Commodore would do if he was in Babs presence. I expect Babs knows better than to put himself in a situation of weakness. When he had power over them, the players absorbed a lot to keep their career going. Now that he does not have power over them, the tables are turned and I am sure Babcock would not be comfortable meeting a guy like Commodore. There are many others like Commodore I am sure.
@@jamesanthony5681 Many of these guys were having their careers ended anyway by Babcock. The more you put up with a bully, the worse the bullying gets. Canadians might be nicer than most, but I know what you guys did on Juno Beach and against the 1st and 12 SS panzer divisions and Panzer Lehr (3 of the toughest, best equipped German divisions in the theater) and in Italy in '43-'44. Canadians may be nice, but they kick ass when needed.
Dude, with all the new talent coming up in columbus and all the young guys that babcock would have shit on I'm so glad for this dudes nhl career to over, let's go PV AND LETS GO JACKETS
Oh. my God! I read in Chelios's book that he disliked him. But I didn't think that Babcock was so terrible to other players. Commodore was a good player, yeah, maybe not as good as when he was younger, but he still was good enough to help a team. Modano was an even better guy, a veteran player with lots to offer any team. And Franzen was still a great player, even at his age. Getting screamed at by a coach in front of God and everyone won't help him get better. I totally understand how Franzen feels, PTSD is nasty. Why did Ken Holland allow this to happen, not once but many times? He should have been monitoring his coaches as well as the other things a GM does. What a bully Babcock is!! Zero respect for this man. And I thought Ken Hitchcock was bad. I'm a Red Wings fan, if anyone cares. I can't stand Babcock.
Great story guy, no body really knew what this was all about, it was all kept behind closed doors ! Thanks for bringing it all out into the open😮 It's really is something that needs to be talked about ! Good for You, and to hell what the consequences may be ! EVIL like this needs to be stamped out, whether it's in the NHL or corporate business.. Score one for the good guys 🎉😂😊 Mike.
I Hope the story isn’t just that Babcock was the bad one, 70% of the coaches I had in junior and aaa were borderline abusive, mildly racist, and some alcoholics. Hockey has a bad culture
I had a co-worker (retired now)who coached hockey. He was racist against our black co-workers. I mean really make any interaction difficult for them. He got this kid as a trainee and tried to tell our boss he was too inept to make it through, which was total BS and our boss knew it and still passed the kid. Granted he was a dick in general so most people brushed it off as him just being himself, but it was obvious he had it out for some people.
Didn't know that. It just shows you he can't stand people who are clearly better than he is. Petty, vindictive, and passive aggressive are not the three main characteristics you should look for when you need a coach.
Yzerman wasn't that good in his last season. That's why it was his last season. He also had lingering knee problems. More than likely the 20 games he missed were to keep his aging body healthy enough to make it through the playoffs. He played for Scotty Bowman for years, though, with notable tensions early on between them so he probably thought of Badcock as a choir girl.
There’s a rumour going around that he invited players to his home for lunch. One player was allegedly asked to leave the residence - after the phone was viewed, and prior to lunch even being served.
@@deanmcpherson2597 Good point. Marner has done his best. The Leafs woes are laid at the feet of a guy who routinely works his butt off. Mitch is probably all but destroyed for Toronto at this point, despite PP, PK, and 5 on 5 brilliance. Sure, the Leafs sputter and fail. Sort of like Tampa Bay kept doing, until they won. It ain't easy getting there kids. But it's easy to criticize.
@@deanmcpherson2597 There are some VERY dark allegations towards MLG Org about child molestations, and it's great to see them with the LONGEST Stanley Cup drought ever!
@@robertmcmanus9185 Marner shouldn't have signed that contract. You gotta be an IDIOT to want to play in a major Canadian hockey market with all that scrutiny. I'd rather live in Dallas or San Jose where nobody knows my name once i leave the arena.
Commodore was the first one to speak up about this scumbag almost 10 years ago and everyone took Babs’ side. Turns out Commie was right about this guy all along.
I agree Toronto was way to woke for Mike. Mikes was an old style coach he doesn’t fit in the flag football approach to the game. Toronto far better off officially becoming a farm team with Sheldon. It’s not about winning. It’s about having fun out there. Play safe here’s 20 million.
The Franzen incident really strikes me as something truly evil. Chris Chelios is an old school kind of guy and when he says that it was the worst thing he’s ever seen; is very telling as to the kinds of things Babcock must’ve said. Even worse when you know that Franzen was suffering from Post-concussion syndrome, it’s like yelling at a guy playing with a broken leg for not being fast enough, it serves no other purpose other than humiliation and creating an environment where everyone is kept in fear of him. I hope his Columbus “career” is the last NHL job he gets, leaving his career in embarrassment and disgrace, just like he forced upon many of his players.
i get it.. we had probably the most hated coach in the province of quebec at some point.. Mario Tremblay.. because of him the habs lost the best goaltender in the league. To this day i can't stand him.
maybe I am an asshole (probably) but it really doesnt sound like anything he did was all that bad. People are a little sensitive. Embarrassment sucks, but its not that deep.
On top of all of that Babcock is overrated as a coach. Red Wings were insanely stacked for cap era. They had 2 of the 3-5 best defensive centers in the NHL who also could score at top-10 pace. They had amazing defensive pairing of Kronwall and Rafalski and on top of it fckn Lidstrom, top-5 EVER at D. They had cheap but reliable goaltending from Osgood and Howard. They had a lot of nice depth pieces. They had Franzen who could turn into total beast in postseason. They even had Marian Hossa for one year. I'm 100% sure with someone like Coach Q they win 2-3 cups in that time.
did u say mike commodore has no relation to the commodore 64 . are u serious . did u even do research before hand .. did u really make sure he had no part in the commodore 64 ? cause uhhh he sorta made the damn thing all by himself
Most of the time when a coach turns out to be a piece of shit there is some practical reason behind it, not that its any better, but there is something they stand to gain from the behaivior. Babcock is just straight up wierd, literally to the detriment of his own career and reputation, for seemily no logical reason, just an actual sociopath.
Tactical IQ and Social IQ are not related. MB had a high intelligence for strategic planning but a very low social skill set level. These traits are typically present in introvert personalities, autism, and sociopaths. For Babcock to sit a guy for a big game might be forgivable if it happened once or twice over a 15 year career, but it occurred many times, so there's enough of a sample size to conclude that he's an ass$%@#. In his NHL coaching career, he grossed in excess of $60M, so he'll be just fine in his remaining time on the planet. But fortunately for future NHLers, his days as a head coach have come to an ignominious conclusion. Good riddance to bad energies.
When he became coach of the maple leafs, I knew I could rest easy knowing the leafs would never win the cup with him in charge. The only bad thing was the knowledge that babcock would wreck a few players along the way.
ehh wouldn't say Franzen was in the twilight of his career. Needed better Concussion care, as a Detroit fan I'm ashamed of how poorly he was treated. I'm also ashamed of how Babcock treated Modano. Just embarrassing as hell. Otherwise great content!
Interesting article about Babcock just today about the way he treated people as Head Coach. Not just players; anyone at the rink. For all the effort he put into preparation before games as a tactician he nullified that by being (in many former players' words) a condescending and arrogant bully and autocrat. There's no telling how good the teams he was given control of could've really been w/ someone like Barry Trotz etc. in charge and not someone who treated people like dirt.
I'm still growing up in Connecticut and unfortunately never had the chance to seem them play, I just go off what my parents would tell me about the team. The song still gives me chills though
no he didnt he jus wanted control u werido .. he has issues with control hes a control freak not a sexual pervert .. we have loads of proof hes a control freak ... non that he is a sexual deviant .. quit spreading lies i hope someone makes up rumors about u
Nice job putting all of the info out on this. I always thought his success in Detroit Was coming in on the coattails of a Scotty Bowman coached team loaded with talent still. I was shocked at what the Leafs gave him. No way was he worth that and I said that in many of postings. I was glad to see him move on from Detroit at the time. Maybe now the man will just take his riches from Toronto and go away.
You can easily argue he was never a good coach. He won a cup with one the greatest teams ever assembled and won Olympic gold with THE most stacked team Canada of all time, I'm not gonna look it up but search team Canada 2010, I think 80% of those guys are hall of fame, fuckin Marty Brodeur in net with Pronger, Niedermayer, and a young Crosby. I could've won gold with that roster.
As a wings fan I liked him as a coach. Bowman was long gone before Babs got there. Dave Lewis was the wings coach for a few seasons after bowman retired. He was bowman’s assistant. He couldn’t get it done with that same hall of fame roster while Babcock took a team in Anaheim with probably half of the wings salary to the finals. Swept Detroit in the first round and lost game 7 to New Jersey. Keep in mind there was no salary cap so he was doing something right. When Babcock took over in Detroit there were only a few of those aging vets left from the bowman years so how could he be on bowman’s coattails? No fedorov, hull, Yzerman and shanahan were at the end. Totally different team with new faces except for the grind line. With a cup and several deep playoff runs and 50 win seasons I’d say he was a pretty good coach for Detroit.
I been a Wings fan my whole life, I would have continued to idolize Babcock if I had not seen this video. Thank you for the truth! Now, if Trump supporters could be as open minded about their idols as I am...
@@Adam-vs2in Dave tried to be a friend not a coach. That team had Bowmans mark on it. You still had many of the vets and Datsyuk and Z coming of age. So yes the team was stacked. Babcock was not all that. Not much better then the train wreck Blashill. Just like Ken Holland was an overrated manager. To be frank I would like to see Draper move on from the front office just the same. I will also add Yzermans clock is ticking. Resigning J V was a mistake. I don't think Larkin is worthy of the C and probably should have been traded for high draft capital while he is at hi peak. Should have kept Burt and made Mo the captain. Copp and Chairot are flop signings. I could go on but the Yzerman plan is not all that so far.
People claim todays players soft but it’s arrogance. He took away madanos history and interjected himself into it. You won’t mention 1500 without madono regardless that he didn’t make it. But you have to mention babcock now. All press is good press. All history is good history.
Keep in mind every coach used to be like Babcock. I once heard it said by a former player that the only time they liked Scotty Bowman, the greatest NHL coach of all time, was when they were hoisting the Stanley Cup.
Absolutely, but you and I know no one wants to hear that. A lot of what is being said here is hearsay and personal opinion. The story couldn't be more biased. It's the story of the times-- victims everywhere, witch hunt, woke-ness--people eat it up like candy. But the truth is probably a lot more nuanced.
What is wrong is that he Still commands so much respect from the present 'hockey hierarchy'. And is still looking for a way back in. Pls look into comments made by Bruins coach This playoff season .
My opinion of John Davidson *plummeted* after knowing he was integral in bringing Mike Babcock to Columbus. Especially as a former player, broadcaster and holding other executive positions in hockey (president of the Blues and NYR) I would have thought he’d have known better than to think Babcock had changed. Due diligence my ass!!! 👎
unreal for Jenner to come out and say it was just sharing some family pics and not understand that going through your phone is a totally different thing for a younger single guy than a boring older family man
The way he disrespected Jason Spezza with a major milestone on the line and his family in the crowd shows Mike Babcock’s character as a man and a coach
he's also the same fucker that denied Mike Modano his 1500th game and healthy scratched him. fuck babcock. my 7 year old could have led detroit and team canada to win
Methinx you mean LACK of character?
Who care? Jason Spezza laughs like a dork and hasn't won anything in his career.....
Jeff Blashill seemed to have learned some of the tricks from Babcock. Although it wasn't with a high profile vet and more with a rookie Dennis Cholowski. Yes turns out he wasn't much of an NHLer but he started off really well in his rookie season.
Blashill healthy scratched him the first time in his home town (Vancouver) with all his family and friends attending the game. He healthy scratched him during the dad road trip while his dad was there (some will get healthy scratched on that trip so not as big a deal) and he healthy scratched on his own bobblehead night...yes fans got a bobblehead of a player being healthy scratched by the coach.
Also heard that Babcock grabbed a St Louis Blues blogger (Andy Strickland) by the throat and threatening him in the hall of the arena in St Louis because he had written a blog about the Detroit players not liking Babcock.
I will never forgive him for what he did to Modano
Thats was extremely low
Really demonstrated what kind of person Mike Babcock was.
Babcock is a piece of shit, I'm embarrassed he coached the Canada National team.
He did a similar thing to Spezza in 2019. Healthy scratch in the leafs season opener, would've been Spezza's first game as a Leaf (his hometown) against his former team
@@rileyglenn5528 with his family there to see it...
The stars need to sign Madano for ONE game...
If modano was down for that im sure theyd sell out that game
Agreed
That would be a classy move.
You sir, are a man of integrity. From this day forth @bryanesselment2380 shall be known as The ANTI- Babcock!
I was thinking that too. Either late in the season or even earlier. He is Mike Modano, He wouldn't do anything stupid.
What pisses me off most is that Babcock is never going to have to sit in front of a camera and explain why he did what he did. He's just going to fade into obscurity...
Remember that the NHL is a small world and he is not welcome in it.
@@DudleyDoright-ru2ch not good enough
@Canuckfan124 you're so soft. And so is Marner. That's why his playoffs production is trash, Babs was trying to instill mental toughness and leadership.
@@DudleyDoright-ru2ch Since the Kyle Beach fiASSco, I've lost any respect I had for NHL hockey, and I stopped watching(supporting) that TRAIN WRECK!
He was a piece of garbage that nobody is going to give a rats ass about him. Simple
Smoke and mirrors....One cup in Motown, mediocre in Toronto, and my mom could have coached Team Canada to a gold medal that year.....
I heard Fred Flintstone and Barney Rubble could have coached Team Canada and still gotten the Gold.
@@JudyPitcherbro a redneck from Mississippi coulda coached that team to gold. That’s like getting a First Nations from Yukon coaching the nba dream team. They winning regardless
Would your mom have won Gold in 1997? And I love how coaching a talented team is easy, it's just bad luck when the #1 seed loses I guess. You're a dork
@charlisantini3403 If not for Sydney Crosbie's last-minute heroics, they'd have lost....."Dork"......
There's no place for him in hockey. Any team he ever won with was super-talented. The Wings were a powerhouse that should have won more and the Olympics were a Management conflagration with unmatched superstar line-up that you or I could have opened the gate for and been credited as coaching. He is an egotistical, mean and petty man.
The worst was the original
cover up. Kudos to Biz for finally vanquishing this psycho once and for all
Biz and Commie are too of my heroes for their work in bringing this POS down. I actually think Bcock should have to go into some sort of narcissism and psychopathy treatment program at his own expense. I can sympathize with someone who has a substance abuse problem, but not someone who possibly contributes to people developing such problems. I feel sorry for Bcock's family. They must be quite traumatized.
@@stevencooke1027commie was a jerk and was garbage
@stevencooke1027 the real trauma would be living with someone who feels comfortable blaming someone else for one's troubles
@@beerdo weak generation My dad made Babcock seem tame 😂
@@stevencooke1027Excellent points.
The Marner story is slightly worse than what you mentioned. Babcock refused the list where Marner put himself at the bottom and forced him to make a new list, where he put Kadri at the bottom
Oh noes. Did he have to go to the gynocologist?
@@icas80 Dude, that shit is psychologically devastating. Imagine being the new guy at an office and the boss makes you rank your coworkers and you don't even know them well. Then, the boss huddles everyone in and says "hey look at the ranked list fuckface made of you guys" and then have to sit there and listen to it.
@@Trigger200284 A hockey team is not the same as an office. Those dudes go to war with each other. They punch ppl in the face to stand up for them.
Did you Dubas homers not learn coddling 20 year old millionaires doesn't work?
Sometime they need the army treatment. Cause it's war.
@@Trigger200284 10 mil + a year and you can't suck up having your feelings hurt?
There's a reason this Leafs team has perpetually underperformed. They're soft Divas like you that run to HR. Shut up and do your job.
@@icas80 wtf are you going on about?
As briefly mentioned in the video I believe he also scratched spezza in his what would have been his first game as a leaf because it was a game against Ottawa and I guess he didn’t want spezza to have that moment
Yes he did. Spezza's whole family was there. He is a Prick with a capitol P! Good riddance.
And he told Spezza he would play him and then didn't.
Spezza had bought 30 tickets for friends and family, and Babs told him the morning of the game he would be scratched.
Since all of this abuse stuff came out, it makes me wonder if he was the reason Paul Kariya abruptly left Anaheim
He wasn't happy about Dubas adding him to the roster
Franzen was a great player, and he has the respect of pretty much every DRW fan
Eff outta here. Kills me they signed that bum over hossa
@@JJCaez Franzen was a fricken dog in the playoffs. No Hossa though.
He was good in 07-09. That’s it. He was worth having for 3 years. Hossa was one of the best players of his era.
And we all know the love in between those two. What did Franzen say? Something like "he's the worst human being I've ever met"?
He was a one dementional goal scorer. Was not interested in developing into anything else. Scotty probably would have let him have it as well.
This guy never disappears.He is the Jason Voorhees of the NHL.
hes herpes
And the Leafs hired him for 8 years knowing full well what he was like. Are we to believe Shanahan didn't know? And these Leafs fans keep believing this organization is trying to win a cup. I wonder why none of these players have sued the franchises and if we're going to see that now that everybody knows about it?
@@bunsw2070 Shanahan had to know considering his connection to the Red Wings.
Shan blows and I’m a leafs fan. Teams good but the guys a fucking tool and definitely doesn’t have cup aspirations at the top of his list
Or the Rump of the NHL.
When he was the Leafs head coach my sister who doesn't even watch hockey said; he looks like a very bad person. I can't believe how spot on she was.
What? Smh…
He has that green goblin mug
When he gives that stare with that scowl on his face, says it all about the darkness of his soul. A true psycho.
Judging people on how they look behind the bench while coaching is nonsense. Just like the title of this video. However, Scotty Bowman is considered the greatest coach in NHL history. How many players hated him while they played for him? Probably, all of them.
It's hard to look at him objectively, but he does like someone you wouldn't even trust with your pet goldfish.
Somebody needs to give Modano a 1 day contract ,give him a shift in the game that would recognize him for the 1500 games he should have played….
This would be the ultimate sacrifice for him and would put the final knife in Babs forehead.
In all honesty, Modano should haven’t even been in the league that year. He was done and washed up. He’s lucky Babcock even played him after his injury.
But I will agree it was a super douche move to only scratch him for that 1 game.
😂😂🤡🤡
One thing that no one is talking about is ytf did Shanny hire Babs knowing what he did? Shanahan has to know a lot of these stories, he played for him ffs. And somehow he thought he was the guy to make the Leafs a winner.
Good point!
Shanny was a key player on the Red Wings when Babs was there. He wouldn't have been a target. His interactions with Babcock would have gone much the same as Jenner's or Goudreau. Neither of them were subjected to the Babcock treatment in their meetings with him. It was a young player who Babcock targeted.
@@brianeleightonhe played one year under Babcock
@@davidkruse4030 Yes, but was still a key part of the team. He wasn't ever part of Babcock's target demographic. He wasn't a young player trying to establish himself nor was he an old player just trying to stay in the league. He was an established veteran who was part of the leadership core of the team when Babcock got there. Not the type of player Babcock would target because he would have the ability to talk directly to the GM and get Babcock fired. Babs is a classic bully, he never targeted anyone with the ability to fight back. Just like Jenner made his statement about his interaction with Babcock. I don't doubt Jenner was 100% honest. Mainly because Babcock would never target the Captain of the team the way he would a rookie. Shanny wore an A during the season he played for Babcock. He wasn't a target.
@@brianeleighton totally get that but Shanny was hired as president of TML. One would expect executive level thinking from him. If Shanny seriously thought that Babs bully tactics was what Toronto needed then you seriously have to question if Shanny should be president
Hated him especially after what he did to Modano in Detroit.
Lol, he really seems a monster and makes Tortorella sound like a patient and reasonable human being
Players love playing for Torts for the most part. Tortorella is a hard ass, not an asshole and a bad guy. He will get in your face and scream at you or maybe call you out in front of the team, sure. However, it is always hockey related and players always know where they stand with him and what his expectations of them are. Babcock just likes to pull mental warfare on players to be a bully. It is even worse because that bastard actually has a degree in Psychology. He clearly didn't do that to learn how to better support his players but instead how to better torture them.
@brianeleighton That's terrifying that he has a psychology degree. What a misuse of said degree
Diffrance is Tortz is not a bad human he is just a hard ass who motivates his players sometimes he goes overboard but he cares about his team that's why Tortorella is a good coach and he is honest he tells it like it is if your not playing well he will let you know
@@dixiewinxeqandmore356 There is a positive that comes out of a psychology degree?
Please enlighten me. My experience is being paired with a couple of so-called best psychologists in Canada, then noticing no progress, the only noticeable thing?
Both of these psychologists pricks, had the largest per hour charge in the country, and two HUGE Fuck-off clocks in their offices, one on the wall behind my head, and the other on the wall behind the psych’s chair.
Psychologists are fucking professional clock-watchers. You are better off with a 1/4 oz. Of decent weed.
He makes torts look like mother Teresa
There were previous versions of Babcock in the NHL's not-so-distant past. I'm thinking of Mike Keenan and Punch Imlach. Imlach drove his best player (Frank Mahovlich) to a nervous breakdown and then chased him out of Toronto, which turned out to be a good thing for Mahovlich. I'm into baseball history and while there have been some odd ball characters in MLB history who became managers, none have lasted the way some of these psycho NHL coaches have (you can throw Eddie Shore, Bob Pulford & Jack Adams in with the others--Adams, who the NHL coach of the year trophy was named after was himself a Babcock level psycho).
Im not too big of a hockey fan, but this came into my feed. Man, how is is possible with all the tough guys in this sport did this dude escape not getting beat within an inch of his life at some point along the way?
Would have been worth serving 5 mins.
@@alphadog1961 ROTFLOL
He was subtle about it.
This dude reminds me EXACTLY of a boss I had at one of my old jobs. He was a COMPLETE narcissistic bully. I’ve worked for tough/demanding bosses in my life, but never had I experienced a guy like him. He was like Jekyl and Hyde- patients LOVED him because he was very charismatic (he’s a Chiropractor), but he couldn’t keep employees longer than like 6 months at a time. I tried EVERYTHING to please this guy, but it was NEVER good enough. He would break you down by pulling you into his office to verbally berate you and make you feel worthless. Most patients LOVED me and always wanted to work with me, but he regularly tore me down and made me feel worthless. After 2 years, I had a mental breakdown and just walked out one day. Best decision I’ve ever made.
Insane production behind this video. I can tell a lot went into researching and crafting of the video. Definitely one of the best hockey story-telling videos I've seen by far, great job!
I generally agree, except for the dirty laundry (?) on the sofa. With a dark shirt, dark sofa, and dark plant behind him, I think a green screen would have been much better, or a different backdrop without green screen needed. Also, some of the overlays were way too briefly onscreen. But overall, it was a fine job.
I'll take a simple guess and corect me if i'm wrong. No one here has ever played any games in the NHL. I'll admit that was a simple guess almost like I were to walk into a casino with all of you kunts. The vast of you would hit those slots, right away you're down 19 persent. 19 perecent coach? Whatcha mean? I mean if you think you can judge any way in any fathum but go into any casino can put a quarter in a slot as i'm sure many kunts have done in this half assed critique. You'er a looser, you've been a looser since you were 15, you're a looser now your 19 and if you still think you know hockey at 30. Your wife only oves you cause you work for your daddy's business. Just think, you have enough time to realize that not 1 NHL player cares one second of who you are. I know why show up to the cancer society and it's time for pictures. When you're 5 years older do your Hero's show up where kids are in critical care now? It's all about $. Nothing more, it's IN their contract.
@@canadianroot Dude, that shit will come in time. He's learning and I for one thought it was top notch, those little things will come as the channel grows. For him to make videos in his spare time and for little revenue, and for YOUR entertainment, I think it's 100% acceptable.
@@Trigger200284 Well, there YOU have it, folks. Laundry takes time. Come on. It was constructive criticism. There wasn't a scintilla of malice in my remarks.
@@canadianroot Where did anyone say you were being malice? His video was fine.
You can kind of see it in his eyes that he would be like that. They are pinpoint, beady, and bitter. Dinner plates falling from a rooftop that restart again and again and again.
Damn dude I don't even understand this but you nailed it. What he did to Chelios, Spezza, and commodore was petty Beyond belief. What he did to Modano is unforgivable, it makes it hard to believe his actions don't extend into his personal life.
First thing I thought too. The eyes are the lantern of the soul.
@@friedsensei no he didn't use your brain be a sensible human .. the way someone looks doesn't control the person they are . are u a racist because that's how racists think? u really wanna follow their mentality and base it off someone eyes .. that's a low iq moment . some people have something known as resting bit*h face ... and their very nice people atleast some of them because their just humans ...
@@hockeytalk6084is your iq below 70 . u really think the way somebody looks dictates the person they are . your mentally on par with a 5 year old
is your iq below 70 . u really think the way somebody looks dictates the person they are . your mentally on par with a 5 year old
of course he won with Detroit, and team Canada,,,,both teams where stacked with talent !!!! damn, i could have coached both and won,,,,
every sports league is sketchy but with cbj hiring babcock and chicago getting bedard the nhl is in a whole other level
Lol in a game we're a guy can punch you in the face and only get a 5 min penalty.... players actually complain about verbal abuse? Hockey had been pussified 😂
The guy is an absolute psychopath
GOOD FOR THE PLAYERS...Strength in numbers,solidarity.The players he singled out were all really nice guys,was he jealous of them,their relationships,friendships.What a Loser.He has lots of money,just nobody wants to be around him...ANY team thinking about hiring him,even Jr B,would be hurting some players for sure.He will always have that "odour".
Babcock broke Franzen. The abuse was so much worse than this video describes. And apparently any time somebody tried to speak up Babcock would threaten to have them traded. He ruined Franzen’s life.
I was always amazed that no player ever took a swing at him
I thought about that...probably lots of folks didn't want to go to jail or be sued over a conniving piece of work like that who'd be made into the victim after goading someone into understandably getting physical with him.
What seems surprising is that none of the retired players are taking a swing at him. I wonder what Commodore would do if he was in Babs presence. I expect Babs knows better than to put himself in a situation of weakness. When he had power over them, the players absorbed a lot to keep their career going. Now that he does not have power over them, the tables are turned and I am sure Babcock would not be comfortable meeting a guy like Commodore. There are many others like Commodore I am sure.
Me too.
Would've been the end of their career had they done so. Besides, most players are Canadian, and we're nice and do what we're told.
@@jamesanthony5681 Many of these guys were having their careers ended anyway by Babcock. The more you put up with a bully, the worse the bullying gets. Canadians might be nicer than most, but I know what you guys did on Juno Beach and against the 1st and 12 SS panzer divisions and Panzer Lehr (3 of the toughest, best equipped German divisions in the theater) and in Italy in '43-'44. Canadians may be nice, but they kick ass when needed.
But you see Babs could not touch Chelios. Chelios was always awesome.
Hes getting his karma u treat people like garbage it will come back to u and enoughs enoughs
Never used to believe that but I do now.Cheating ex wife who's now an urn of ashes.Sleep well douchebag.
IF I WAS MODANO, I'D SUE BABCOCK FOR ALL HE'S WORTH FOR DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER.
I dislike Babcock intensely, but, I would not hire you as a lawyer. Hahah.
LOL
Dude, with all the new talent coming up in columbus and all the young guys that babcock would have shit on I'm so glad for this dudes nhl career to over, let's go PV AND LETS GO JACKETS
Oh. my God! I read in Chelios's book that he disliked him. But I didn't think that Babcock was so terrible to other players. Commodore was a good player, yeah, maybe not as good as when he was younger, but he still was good enough to help a team. Modano was an even better guy, a veteran player with lots to offer any team. And Franzen was still a great player, even at his age. Getting screamed at by a coach in front of God and everyone won't help him get better. I totally understand how Franzen feels, PTSD is nasty. Why did Ken Holland allow this to happen, not once but many times? He should have been monitoring his coaches as well as the other things a GM does. What a bully Babcock is!! Zero respect for this man. And I thought Ken Hitchcock was bad. I'm a Red Wings fan, if anyone cares. I can't stand Babcock.
I also read Chelio's book, and I don't remember him centering out Babcock.
@@mr.blackhawk142 I can't tell you what page. but I do remember his not liking Babcock.
Great story guy, no body really knew what this was all about, it was all kept behind closed doors !
Thanks for bringing it all out into the open😮
It's really is something that needs to be talked about !
Good for You, and to hell what the consequences may be !
EVIL like this needs to be stamped out, whether it's in the NHL or corporate business..
Score one for the good guys 🎉😂😊
Mike.
I Hope the story isn’t just that Babcock was the bad one, 70% of the coaches I had in junior and aaa were borderline abusive, mildly racist, and some alcoholics. Hockey has a bad culture
Haha! To true. Growing up playing hockey in my teens I can attest, hockey coaches are generally pricks.
Humans. Hockey is just a subsect of the same people. Turns out white canadians and americans are more likely to be racist. Who knew
I had a co-worker (retired now)who coached hockey. He was racist against our black co-workers. I mean really make any interaction difficult for them. He got this kid as a trainee and tried to tell our boss he was too inept to make it through, which was total BS and our boss knew it and still passed the kid.
Granted he was a dick in general so most people brushed it off as him just being himself, but it was obvious he had it out for some people.
Babcock consistently benched Yzerman in his last season.
Didn't know that. It just shows you he can't stand people who are clearly better than he is. Petty, vindictive, and passive aggressive are not the three main characteristics you should look for when you need a coach.
Yzerman wasn't that good in his last season. That's why it was his last season. He also had lingering knee problems. More than likely the 20 games he missed were to keep his aging body healthy enough to make it through the playoffs. He played for Scotty Bowman for years, though, with notable tensions early on between them so he probably thought of Badcock as a choir girl.
There’s a rumour going around that he invited players to his home for lunch. One player was allegedly asked to leave the residence - after the phone was viewed, and prior to lunch even being served.
What he did to Marner is f-ked up, making the kid compile that list and then sharing it is sick, borderline sadistic! 🤦🏼♂️🤢
That's nothing, look what the Leaf nation is doing to Marner right now, they eat their young.
@@deanmcpherson2597 Good point. Marner has done his best. The Leafs woes are laid at the feet of a guy who routinely works his butt off. Mitch is probably all but destroyed for Toronto at this point, despite PP, PK, and 5 on 5 brilliance. Sure, the Leafs sputter and fail. Sort of like Tampa Bay kept doing, until they won. It ain't easy getting there kids. But it's easy to criticize.
@@deanmcpherson2597 There are some VERY dark allegations towards MLG Org about child molestations, and it's great to see them with the LONGEST Stanley Cup drought ever!
@@robertmcmanus9185 Marner shouldn't have signed that contract. You gotta be an IDIOT to want to play in a major Canadian hockey market with all that scrutiny. I'd rather live in Dallas or San Jose where nobody knows my name once i leave the arena.
When Lidstrom gets pissed, you done messed up
I read his book a few years ago! Lids is a very under-rated D-Man!
@@mr.blackhawk142How is Lidstrom underrated? Most consider him to be among the top 3 of defensemen to ever play the game.
How did this guy get a 50 million dollar contract???
Cuz he's friends with the gm that gave him the contract that's how
I recall at the time that some fans in Leaf Nation were afraid he'd sign to coach Buffalo.
Commodore was the first one to speak up about this scumbag almost 10 years ago and everyone took Babs’ side. Turns out Commie was right about this guy all along.
Basically, he's just like a predator in nature. Going after the young and old. I really feel for the guys he targeted.
can you please start posting more! this is one of the best videos i’ve seen surrounding hockey
Thanks for the compliment! Looking forward to making plenty more!
He just CAN'T be any more hated than Mike Keenan.
psychopaths a lot of times get to high society. Lack of empathy is beneficial in a lot of career paths. unlucky.
Every manager at a Fortune 500 fits this personality type.
I agree Toronto was way to woke for Mike.
Mikes was an old style coach he doesn’t fit in the flag football approach to the game.
Toronto far better off officially becoming a farm team with Sheldon.
It’s not about winning. It’s about having fun out there. Play safe here’s 20 million.
The Franzen incident really strikes me as something truly evil. Chris Chelios is an old school kind of guy and when he says that it was the worst thing he’s ever seen; is very telling as to the kinds of things Babcock must’ve said. Even worse when you know that Franzen was suffering from Post-concussion syndrome, it’s like yelling at a guy playing with a broken leg for not being fast enough, it serves no other purpose other than humiliation and creating an environment where everyone is kept in fear of him. I hope his Columbus “career” is the last NHL job he gets, leaving his career in embarrassment and disgrace, just like he forced upon many of his players.
Franzen wasnt specifically shaken up by that incident in the interview. He developed severe brain injury from hockey, memory loss etc... pretty sad
Extremely interesting and well done video. You did a great job putting this together.
Thank you I really appreciate that!
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i get it.. we had probably the most hated coach in the province of quebec at some point.. Mario Tremblay.. because of him the habs lost the best goaltender in the league. To this day i can't stand him.
The NHLPA will never let him coach again.
maybe I am an asshole (probably) but it really doesnt sound like anything he did was all that bad. People are a little sensitive. Embarrassment sucks, but its not that deep.
On top of all of that Babcock is overrated as a coach. Red Wings were insanely stacked for cap era. They had 2 of the 3-5 best defensive centers in the NHL who also could score at top-10 pace. They had amazing defensive pairing of Kronwall and Rafalski and on top of it fckn Lidstrom, top-5 EVER at D. They had cheap but reliable goaltending from Osgood and Howard. They had a lot of nice depth pieces. They had Franzen who could turn into total beast in postseason. They even had Marian Hossa for one year.
I'm 100% sure with someone like Coach Q they win 2-3 cups in that time.
agreed and a thumbs up from me. He only has one cup win with them great Detroit teams.
Nobody who has balls and wants to win hates this coach. This youtube child's take on Babcock is amazingly incomplete.
Toronto maple leafs paid fifty million dollars for him and got nothing for it….
1:16 O.G.
This Blue Jackets fan thanks Bissonette for not letting it go. Still can't believe the organization hired the guy.
did u say mike commodore has no relation to the commodore 64 . are u serious . did u even do research before hand .. did u really make sure he had no part in the commodore 64 ? cause uhhh he sorta made the damn thing all by himself
Commie is talented freaky man
Most of the time when a coach turns out to be a piece of shit there is some practical reason behind it, not that its any better, but there is something they stand to gain from the behaivior. Babcock is just straight up wierd, literally to the detriment of his own career and reputation, for seemily no logical reason, just an actual sociopath.
Toronto woulda won a cup by now if they kept him to lord over those soft kids playing there.
Tactical IQ and Social IQ are not related. MB had a high intelligence for strategic planning but a very low social skill set level. These traits are typically present in introvert personalities, autism, and sociopaths. For Babcock to sit a guy for a big game might be forgivable if it happened once or twice over a 15 year career, but it occurred many times, so there's enough of a sample size to conclude that he's an ass$%@#. In his NHL coaching career, he grossed in excess of $60M, so he'll be just fine in his remaining time on the planet. But fortunately for future NHLers, his days as a head coach have come to an ignominious conclusion. Good riddance to bad energies.
When he became coach of the maple leafs, I knew I could rest easy knowing the leafs would never win the cup with him in charge. The only bad thing was the knowledge that babcock would wreck a few players along the way.
As a CBJ fan Im glad he never got to coach a game.
But I have serious reservations about our front office now.....
What a weird guy.
Fade away. I already forgot about him. Can’t forget Franzen, Modano, or Spezza!
ehh wouldn't say Franzen was in the twilight of his career. Needed better Concussion care, as a Detroit fan I'm ashamed of how poorly he was treated. I'm also ashamed of how Babcock treated Modano. Just embarrassing as hell. Otherwise great content!
This guy will get elected to office. He shares their style.
...and Ted Nolan does not.
Damn... you're scaring me. I think you're correct.
Every coach has players that HATE them!! Get over it..
Interesting article about Babcock just today about the way he treated people as Head Coach.
Not just players; anyone at the rink. For all the effort he put into preparation before games as a tactician he nullified that by being (in many former players' words) a condescending and arrogant bully and autocrat. There's no telling how good the teams he was given control of could've really been w/ someone like Barry Trotz etc. in charge and not someone who treated people like dirt.
pure BS
The stuff he does is straight up bizarre
Babcock will never coach another NHL game!
Ah hes not that bad, stop being a bunch of snowflakes.
My theory is he hates everyone else named mike
The only reason I know this is bc of TH-cam
Being a successful nhl coach is one thing. Winning gold with Canada is just expected.
Badcock what a fitting name
Wow.. The unexpected Brass Bonanza at 9:41 gave me huge chills. I grew up in Connecticut and the loss of my team will never not break my heart.
I'm still growing up in Connecticut and unfortunately never had the chance to seem them play, I just go off what my parents would tell me about the team. The song still gives me chills though
Hey, I think the Whalers will return to the NHL some day. Never count them out.
Babcock wanted to see what their wives or girlfriends looked like! Hockey is better without him!
no he didnt he jus wanted control u werido .. he has issues with control hes a control freak not a sexual pervert .. we have loads of proof hes a control freak ... non that he is a sexual deviant .. quit spreading lies i hope someone makes up rumors about u
Modano should have an honorary game, that is so criminal
I bet they scrolled through Babcock's phone as a due-diligence requirement for hiring 🤣
This was such a good video you should definitely do more hockey content
Nice job putting all of the info out on this. I always thought his success in Detroit
Was coming in on the coattails of a Scotty Bowman coached team loaded with talent still.
I was shocked at what the Leafs gave him. No way was he worth that and I said that in many of postings. I was glad to see him move on from Detroit at the time. Maybe now the man will just take his riches from Toronto and go away.
You can easily argue he was never a good coach. He won a cup with one the greatest teams ever assembled and won Olympic gold with THE most stacked team Canada of all time, I'm not gonna look it up but search team Canada 2010, I think 80% of those guys are hall of fame, fuckin Marty Brodeur in net with Pronger, Niedermayer, and a young Crosby. I could've won gold with that roster.
As a wings fan I liked him as a coach. Bowman was long gone before Babs got there. Dave Lewis was the wings coach for a few seasons after bowman retired. He was bowman’s assistant. He couldn’t get it done with that same hall of fame roster while Babcock took a team in Anaheim with probably half of the wings salary to the finals. Swept Detroit in the first round and lost game 7 to New Jersey.
Keep in mind there was no salary cap so he was doing something right.
When Babcock took over in Detroit there were only a few of those aging vets left from the bowman years so how could he be on bowman’s coattails? No fedorov, hull, Yzerman and shanahan were at the end. Totally different team with new faces except for the grind line.
With a cup and several deep playoff runs and 50 win seasons I’d say he was a pretty good coach for Detroit.
I been a Wings fan my whole life, I would have continued to idolize Babcock if I had not seen this video. Thank you for the truth! Now, if Trump supporters could be as open minded about their idols as I am...
@@Adam-vs2in Dave tried to be a friend not a coach. That team had Bowmans mark on it.
You still had many of the vets and Datsyuk and Z coming of age. So yes the team was stacked.
Babcock was not all that. Not much better then the train wreck Blashill. Just like Ken Holland was an overrated manager. To be frank I would like to see Draper move on from the front office just the same. I will also add Yzermans clock is ticking. Resigning J V was a mistake. I don't think Larkin is worthy of the C and probably should have been traded for high draft capital while he is at hi peak. Should have kept Burt and made Mo the captain. Copp and Chairot are flop signings. I could go on but the Yzerman plan is not all that so far.
People claim todays players soft but it’s arrogance. He took away madanos history and interjected himself into it. You won’t mention 1500 without madono regardless that he didn’t make it. But you have to mention babcock now. All press is good press. All history is good history.
Keep in mind every coach used to be like Babcock. I once heard it said by a former player that the only time they liked Scotty Bowman, the greatest NHL coach of all time, was when they were hoisting the Stanley Cup.
Absolutely, but you and I know no one wants to hear that. A lot of what is being said here is hearsay and personal opinion. The story couldn't be more biased. It's the story of the times-- victims everywhere, witch hunt, woke-ness--people eat it up like candy. But the truth is probably a lot more nuanced.
Saskatchewan is a dump.
Babs ain’t right in the head.
After viewing this video, I'm glad that Mike Babcock never became coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets,he actually resigned before the season began
When the Leafs found out... You mean when he was fired and the media finally leaked it
Your mic setup is full cringe.
It’s not hard to win a cup and a medal when you have a good team in front of you. Like seriously, is being a coach for team Canada really that hard?
The 2008 Red Wings were loaded with Hall of Fame players also, I could have coached that team and won the Stanley Cup
Tgat is a truly evil coach
What is wrong is that he Still commands so much respect from the present 'hockey hierarchy'. And is still looking for a way back in. Pls look into comments made by Bruins coach This playoff season .
He's a basic psychopath
I had my share of jackass coaches & toxic leaders in the Army, but damn. This is fucked.
Great comment. Too many people just don't get it. You nailed it!
Holland is as bad as Babs
Good riddance Babs. Great job on this video thumbs up
Dang man, I just stumbled upon your video. Wish you would start posting again! This was a great video and the Internet needs more hockey content!
Sadist.
My opinion of John Davidson *plummeted* after knowing he was integral in bringing Mike Babcock to Columbus. Especially as a former player, broadcaster and holding other executive positions in hockey (president of the Blues and NYR) I would have thought he’d have known better than to think Babcock had changed. Due diligence my ass!!! 👎
unreal for Jenner to come out and say it was just sharing some family pics and not understand that going through your phone is a totally different thing for a younger single guy than a boring older family man
Truly disappointing for a Captain to be so oblivious
Some boring family guys could have wife pics on their phones that they don’t want seen too