Thanks so much for tuning in, everyone! I’ve got to apologize for falling behind on videos lately, life and school have been coming at me hard, but I think I’ve finally found a good balance. From here on, I’ll aim to drop at least one new video each week. Your support has been incredible like we're almost at 5 thousand subs! I appreciate every single one of you. Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more, and I’ll catch you all in the next one! 🙏
This is some well done work, keep it up! I'm just realizing I happened upon and watched your Matt Barnaby video a while back, then I watched your Marty St. Louis vid who has a special place in my heart going back to his UVM days, and now I'm subbed. You and Hockey Psychology are my favorite channels for interesting and unbiased hockey content, which comes in handy during these August and September dog days of being an NHL fan. I guess I'll go on to watch the JR video, the NHL '94 G.O.A.T himself.
Adam Oates finished with 1420 points but did not play his first full season until he was 24. Had his NHL career began earlier he could have easily been a top 10 scorer.
Ron Caron's biggest mistake. Harsh analysis though, he had poor ownership to deal with. Paul Newman's Slap Shot felt like a documentary when it came to the Blues org in the early 80s...
Top 5 playmaker of all time, atleast top 10. Would have deserved a Cup but sadly did not get one...One of my ultimate favourite players from the early 90s when I started to watch NHL hockey.
I can't put him top 5. I gotta put Gretzky, Lemieux, Thornton, Francis, and Crosby in the top 5, with McDavid likely to push out Francis or Crosby sometime soon (if not already).
As a Leafs fan who’s old enough to remember the Norris Division with the Leafs, Blackhawks, North Stars, Red Wings, and Blues I agree that Adam Oates is an under appreciated player.
i only could imagine the numbers Neely and Oates could have produced if Neely was healthy. another great player leaves the Bruins because they tell it like it is about how the organization is not committed to winning. playing their second season in the brand new TD Garden which sold out every night.
Unfortunately, even though Oates helped the Capitals make it to the finals as a player and was a hall of fame player, the thing that I most associate with him in my head was his arrogance in forcing Ovechkin to play Right Wing because of Oates' belief that right handed shots should play on the right side. It did not work well at all for the Capitals or for Ovechkin. It's unfortunate that this is what first comes to mind, when he had a hall of fame playing career. But that's what it is for me. It's not Oates' unselfishness as a player. It's about his selfishness as a coach.
Adam Oates is with-out doubts the unsong great of playmakers in NHL history. The play-IQ was incredible how he could set up passes and goals at difficult positions and angles. Despite his lack of speed, Oates was still producing fine numbers and constantlt showed improvements. He was a great point producer in his college hockey years...and how NON, I mean NON NHL team drafted Oates was insane considering 210 possible Draft picks was at the time avaible. Unbelieble. If the NHL had had sence they woyld have had an "Most Assist Trophy Award", in witch Oates, who for 12 NHL seasons was a Top 10 assist maker would have won 3x the award; 1992-93, 2000-01 and 2001-02! Sadly like so many NHL greats, Oates never won a Stanley Cup but at least played in 2 Cup finals (1998 & 2003). However, something that is debatble is the fact that regardless of his tallent and work-force, his repeated contract disputes to demand a new contract with his teams; Blues, Bruins & Capitals = his prime NHL years was somewhat ruined due to having made himself an "uproar maker" or "strongly open opinion maker" that never sit well with the GM's or owners could have cost him a lot of possible more greatness achivements. Also, despite being a A--Star level player, Adam Oates NEVER participated in any international competitions for Team Canada? Why was that so? The 1996 World Cup? The 1998 & 2002 Olympic Games? possible IIHF World Championship tournaments (1993, 1996 or 1997)? That 1997 year was also a year Canada won the WC gold medal so that would been a nice career oppertunity. Was he just not interested in it or was it Team Canada was never interested in him (?) this demand an answer I can't find support for from any side.
canada was spoiled at the center position. he played in a era with gretzky, lemieux, sakic, yzerman, prime lindros, and ron francis... that's just the all timers not counting the prime era guys the nieuwendyks, brind'amours etc....
@@ULTRAINFINITEJUSTICE Well this is true! But no IIHF world championships? These guys beside Sakic was not in these tournament years Oates was healthy and avaible (!)
You should DEFINITELY do one on Pat Lafontaine. Imo one of theeee most underrated of all time Pat Lafontaine. Very happy that I was able to watch him in his glory years on tv and I wasn't even an Islanders or Sabres fan. But come playoff time I made sure to tune into his games just to watch his amazing skill. When the guy was fully healthy he was a beast playmaker and goal scorer. If not for some rough injury plagued seasons on and off in his younger years and later in his career from 93 to 98, and he could have easily been a 1500 point career guy. He still made it to over 1000 points in only 865 which is fricken amazing. Imagine Pat fully healthy throughout his career and possibly playing more seasons!! He was a victim of the heavy hitter checkers of the 80s sadly too and wasn't a big guy at all at only 5'10 and 180 pounds. Also look at those years he played for the lowly basement dwelling Sabres who were quite a crummy team most of those seasons and the latter seasons of the Islanders(post dynasty years) yet he still put up massive points with them
I know Cam Neely appreciated him dearly, as did Brett Hull . I wish we could have gotten some other lines in Boston. We just never could get other lines to win it all. I hope he's coaching he has a great hockey mind.
He wasn’t underappreciated during his peak; everyone recognized how good he was in his prime. He became somewhat underappreciated after his career, but not by much. He played alongside legends like Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Sakic, and Hull. He wasn’t better than any of them, and the spotlight is limited. That’s all there is to it.
@@rubberneckinc.8937 He was a playmaker and great at it Hull had the best shot I ever saw but a great shot needs a playmaker and a playmaker doesn't always need a great shooter I think your right
@@rubberneckinc.8937 A guy who scores 86 goals, is more valuable than a guy that gets 86 assists. No team in 1991 would have chosen Oates over Hull - none. Hull was better with Oates for sure, but he was a 50+ goal scorer no matter who he played with in his prime. Oates could not turn a 20 goal scorer into a 50 goal scorer.
@@The_Right_News I like your comments. You were right about by playing in the era he played he was forgotten (a bit) he's a Hall of Famer let's leave it at that.
Brett Hull always wanted to know why Oates was so unselfish but didn't wanna ask because he didn't want that to change. Oates enjoyed seeing his teammates score more than they did at some points
Makes sense that the unappreciated Adam Oates would go on TV defending the allegedly unappreciated Mitch Marner. I'll say this though: Adam Oates never lost in the first round seven out of eight years. If he DID, his legacy would be quite different. Also, I know it happened a lot more back then, but Oates had a propensity for walking out on his teams. I hated that shit. You signed a contract, bud. Honor it.
So the man scored his first goal against the north stars and then a clutch setup to beat the stars in his last big highlight. Ya know my team really loves giving those first goals up its hillarious everytime razor says a guy hasnt had a goal for like 6 months or somethin thats the guy who just puts a bummer in the net. I get why hockey is so superstitious. 😂
I remember in the 90s he wasn't underappreciated at all. He was known and talked about a lot. For some reason though as time went on his name seemed to disappear
Idk if he was underrated for fans at the time, great video nonetheless . After Gretzky and Lemieux it was pretty much him (and Yzerman) for gifted passers/assist guys of the time. Plus recognized as one half of one of the greatest duos of all time. Maybe he is a little forgotten now though
Under appreciated seems to be a strange word to use in describing this Hall of Famer. Although he never played on a team I was particularly fond of, like most hockey fans I loved watching him play. I doubt there was a single team in the league who would have rejected a chance to land him. His contract re-negotiations with Washington after he was traded there proved him to be a class act through and through.
I honestly cant think of anyone more underrated. I am not saying that person does not exist but I personally cant think of who that would be... maybe Ron Francis?
At one point he along with two others produced the most points over a ten year period. My pool partner would not take him as a protection, that cost us dearly.
Couldn't win in the playoffs. Oates didn't have much success. No cups. Plus he wasn't very fast. If he had worked on his skating more he would've been an absolute legend but I think he'll settle for just a Hall of Famer.
@@tommygoode9644 Also a victim of teams on the bubble. He joined the Wings in their "Dead Things" era. Then went to a Blues team that was entertaining as hell in those days but only considered a serious cup contender to local St. Louis sports talk radio for a few minutes in spring before they went back to talking about the Rams and Cardinals. Bruins were an almost contender but was never getting past the Penguins in those days, then they collapsed. Things may have gone differently for Boston if not for that Samuelsson hit on Neely, at least that's what I like to tell myself. As far as his speed goes, he's not the only great player where skating wasn't his strength. I've loved to watching guys that lacked Oats' vision, but made a career on wing parked in front of the goalie and consistently driving home rebounds. I always appreciated that about Dave Andreychuk. It's possible that if Oats had never honed his selfless playmaker style and instead tried to develop himself into Pavel Bure he probably would have only been a mediocre, almost NHL-level player. I trust that he found his strength early in his career and ran with it. But you never know, Oats had a brush with Yzerman when he was a young offense-first goal scorer. But Yzerman became truly great when he learned to be a two-way player. So, players can transform, I guess it's not impossible.
Look into John leclair one of the most underrated players in hockey history.should be in the hall of fame ,gave Montreal there last cup and gave USA the 96 Canada cup..o yeah how about the legion of doom..definitely a player that hockey has forgot
You need good players around you to get noticed so it is never just about that ONE guy. I have been watching hockey since the early 60's there has been many great players every single year I never center out just one.Funny though Joe Nieuwendyk was also a great Lacrosse player definitely a sport that toughens you up.
Underappreciated by who? I think most people who watched hockey when he played knew how good he was. I remember seeing features on HNIC of Hull and Oates a lot during Hull's massive goal season.
@MSZFilms I'll see you an Adam Oates, and raise you a...Ron Francis. Second in all-time regular season assists - ONLY behind Gretzky. Two-time Stanley Cup winner. Without him, the Penguins would NOT have won their first two!!! Also,... keeping in mind,... Francis only has three 100 point seasons while Oates had four.
@@That90sShow As much as I liked John Cullen, he would NOT have delivered the to the Penguins their first two Cups to P-burgh. Francis stepped in (and up) when Mario got injured.
I love your content bud. But calling the audience “boys” is absolutely cringe. It makes it sound like you’re trying to be a hockey guy lol. Don’t try. Just talk. Your content is great.
You should DEFINITELY do one on Pat Lafontaine. Imo one of theeee most underrated of all time Pat Lafontaine. Very happy that I was able to watch him in his glory years on tv and I wasn't even an Islanders or Sabres fan. But come playoff time I made sure to tune into his games just to watch his amazing skill. When the guy was fully healthy he was a beast playmaker and goal scorer. If not for some rough injury plagued seasons on and off in his younger years and later in his career from 93 to 98, and he could have easily been a 1500 point career guy. He still made it to over 1000 points in only 865 which is fricken amazing. Imagine Pat fully healthy throughout his career and possibly playing more seasons!! He was a victim of the heavy hitter checkers of the 80s sadly too and wasn't a big guy at all at only 5'10 and 180 pounds. Also look at those years he played for the lowly basement dwelling Sabres who were quite a crummy team most of those seasons and the latter seasons of the Islanders(post dynasty years) yet he still put up massive points with them
Thanks so much for tuning in, everyone! I’ve got to apologize for falling behind on videos lately, life and school have been coming at me hard, but I think I’ve finally found a good balance. From here on, I’ll aim to drop at least one new video each week. Your support has been incredible like we're almost at 5 thousand subs! I appreciate every single one of you. Don’t forget to like and subscribe for more, and I’ll catch you all in the next one!
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cant wait, never forget to take time for yourself tho❤
This is some well done work, keep it up! I'm just realizing I happened upon and watched your Matt Barnaby video a while back, then I watched your Marty St. Louis vid who has a special place in my heart going back to his UVM days, and now I'm subbed. You and Hockey Psychology are my favorite channels for interesting and unbiased hockey content, which comes in handy during these August and September dog days of being an NHL fan. I guess I'll go on to watch the JR video, the NHL '94 G.O.A.T himself.
another massively underrated carrer has to be ron francis, 2nd all time in assists and 5th in points yet people often forget about him
Fair but people really sleep on Adam Oates. The fact that Detroit traded him when they had him & Yzerman young. Befuddling
Shit I just commented that lol. Completely agree
Dead on!!!
So true
And Mike Gartner.
Adam Oates finished with 1420 points but did not play his first full season until he was 24. Had his NHL career began earlier he could have easily been a top 10 scorer.
Well done. I was a huge fan at the time when Gretzky and lemieux were crushing it. One of hockey’s greatest passers!!
Adam Oates was always appreciated in our house.
Hull and Oates, a great time to be a Blues fan as an early adolescent
Enjoyed the pair far more than Hall and Oates.
Not if you`re a rich girl
@@TobbeÄventyrarnacuz you've gone too far?
A fine player. Respect and Honor.
And he attended RPI, a fine engineering college.
Oates's line mate in Markham in 80-81 was Steve Thomas.
one of my favorite players as a kid playing hockey in Massachusetts.
One note, when he was on the Caps, having Chris Simon with him allowed Bondra and Oates to do whatever they wanted.
Rip Chris Simon
His longevity was incredible as well. He was in his late 30s still putting up a point per game
Its like sid the kid, although not a kid anymore, time flys
Agreed. Adam Oates was a brilliant hockey player.
One of the goats
He wasn't underappreciated by us in Boston.
Ron Caron's biggest mistake. Harsh analysis though, he had poor ownership to deal with. Paul Newman's Slap Shot felt like a documentary when it came to the Blues org in the early 80s...
Truth
One of the best passers I have ever watched
Where it was one timers to Neely, Bondra or Hull
Killer on the PP
Almost as under-appreciated as your channel is bro. Quality content as always, you deserve all the subs.
great video as always, I have no clue how you don't have more subs
NHL '94, SEGA. Oats, Neely and Blurque. That was my team... despite the spelling.
Top 5 playmaker of all time, atleast top 10. Would have deserved a Cup but sadly did not get one...One of my ultimate favourite players from the early 90s when I started to watch NHL hockey.
I can't put him top 5. I gotta put Gretzky, Lemieux, Thornton, Francis, and Crosby in the top 5, with McDavid likely to push out Francis or Crosby sometime soon (if not already).
Went from feeding Brett Hull, to feeding Cam Neely, to feeding Peter Bondra. Yep, that will tally you a whole lot of assists!
At Markham his line mate was Steve Thomas in 80-81. Similar situation.
Loved him in silver bullet
Great, informative video
As a Leafs fan who’s old enough to remember the Norris Division with the Leafs, Blackhawks, North Stars, Red Wings, and Blues I agree that Adam Oates is an under appreciated player.
Keep the videos coming your 🔥🎙💪👏
A very well researched and produced piece about a beloved former NHL'er earns another subscription.
Thank you, MSZFilms.
Another underrated player is Bernie Federko
Lacrosse hands in hockey with vision for passing. Such a cool steez.
Legend has it Paul Allen is still having dinner in London to this day. 🤣
Great comment
Hull and Oates
i only could imagine the numbers Neely and Oates could have produced if Neely was healthy. another great player leaves the Bruins because they tell it like it is about how the organization is not committed to winning. playing their second season in the brand new TD Garden which sold out every night.
All the bourque years they were a one line team. The Jacobs family eats major panda prick!
#12 Neely from Oats 🤗
I have his autograph somewhere
You did Paul McClean dirty on that image 😂
Exceptionally well done. He deserves the accolades.
I remember on my old nhlpa game for super Nintendo playing as Boston with him and cam neely and Ray bourque.
ha , me also and Joe Juneau
More importantly, he was always one of the best at faceoffs.
Adam Oates had no ego. Zero. Any true hockey fan will ALWAYS appreciate him.
VERY UNDERATED SAME AS GARTNER
Good point.
Gartner left the Rangers just before they won the Cup in '94, I think. Tragic.
Unfortunately, even though Oates helped the Capitals make it to the finals as a player and was a hall of fame player, the thing that I most associate with him in my head was his arrogance in forcing Ovechkin to play Right Wing because of Oates' belief that right handed shots should play on the right side. It did not work well at all for the Capitals or for Ovechkin.
It's unfortunate that this is what first comes to mind, when he had a hall of fame playing career. But that's what it is for me. It's not Oates' unselfishness as a player. It's about his selfishness as a coach.
cant wait to watch this keep up the great work🎉❤
I look forward to these videos. Thanks
Wore 77 in Washington in honor of his friend Ray Bourque
That explains a lot. He also wore this number in Philadelphia, Anaheim, and Edmonton too
instant sub. first time watcher. looking forward to seeing more.
Great player, great mini doc. Lmfao at paul allen😂
Worst trade Detroit made. Oates is still respected by Wings fans. Should be in the Hall
Hall and Oates. Ha. He is a Hall of Famer by the way
Huge fan
The brain on this guy.
GREAT JOB .
Dude was too good to he traded as many times as he was.
This is spot on. Very very under appreciated
I know Oatsie. HOF.
Adam Oates is with-out doubts the unsong great of playmakers in NHL history.
The play-IQ was incredible how he could set up passes and goals at difficult positions and angles.
Despite his lack of speed, Oates was still producing fine numbers and constantlt showed improvements. He was a great point producer in his college hockey years...and how NON, I mean NON NHL team drafted Oates was insane considering 210 possible Draft picks was at the time avaible. Unbelieble.
If the NHL had had sence they woyld have had an "Most Assist Trophy Award", in witch Oates, who for 12 NHL seasons was a Top 10 assist maker would have won
3x the award; 1992-93, 2000-01 and 2001-02! Sadly like so many NHL greats, Oates never won a Stanley Cup but at least played in 2 Cup finals (1998 & 2003).
However, something that is debatble is the fact that regardless of his tallent and work-force, his repeated contract disputes to demand a new contract with his teams; Blues, Bruins & Capitals = his prime NHL years was somewhat ruined due to having made himself an "uproar maker" or "strongly open opinion maker" that never sit well with the GM's or owners could have cost him a lot of possible more greatness achivements.
Also, despite being a A--Star level player, Adam Oates NEVER participated in any international competitions for Team Canada? Why was that so?
The 1996 World Cup? The 1998 & 2002 Olympic Games? possible IIHF World Championship tournaments (1993, 1996 or 1997)?
That 1997 year was also a year Canada won the WC gold medal so that would been a nice career oppertunity. Was he just not interested in it or was it Team Canada was never interested in him (?) this demand an answer I can't find support for from any side.
canada was spoiled at the center position. he played in a era with gretzky, lemieux, sakic, yzerman, prime lindros, and ron francis... that's just the all timers not counting the prime era guys the nieuwendyks, brind'amours etc....
@@ULTRAINFINITEJUSTICE Well this is true!
But no IIHF world championships? These guys beside Sakic was not in these tournament years Oates was healthy and avaible (!)
Not to mention, Bernie Federko!
Oats wanted to be traded from the Red Wings he said this will always be Steve Izermans team and I will always be a second line center
You should DEFINITELY do one on Pat Lafontaine. Imo one of theeee most underrated of all time
Pat Lafontaine. Very happy that I was able to watch him in his glory years on tv and I wasn't even an Islanders or Sabres fan. But come playoff time I made sure to tune into his games just to watch his amazing skill.
When the guy was fully healthy he was a beast playmaker and goal scorer. If not for some rough injury plagued seasons on and off in his younger years and later in his career from 93 to 98, and he could have easily been a 1500 point career guy.
He still made it to over 1000 points in only 865 which is fricken amazing. Imagine Pat fully healthy throughout his career and possibly playing more seasons!! He was a victim of the heavy hitter checkers of the 80s sadly too and wasn't a big guy at all at only 5'10 and 180 pounds.
Also look at those years he played for the lowly basement dwelling Sabres who were quite a crummy team most of those seasons and the latter seasons of the Islanders(post dynasty years) yet he still put up massive points with them
Great video. I hate that top 100 ever, because Geno Malkin isn't on it.
I know Cam Neely appreciated him dearly, as did Brett Hull . I wish we could have gotten some other lines in Boston. We just never could get other lines to win it all. I hope he's coaching he has a great hockey mind.
He wasn’t underappreciated during his peak; everyone recognized how good he was in his prime. He became somewhat underappreciated after his career, but not by much. He played alongside legends like Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman, Sakic, and Hull. He wasn’t better than any of them, and the spotlight is limited. That’s all there is to it.
He's better than Hull. I watched them both play a lot. Oates was better. Just my opinion and I really liked Brett's game.
@@The_Right_News I could not of said that any better
@@rubberneckinc.8937 He was a playmaker and great at it Hull had the best shot I ever saw but a great shot needs a playmaker and a playmaker doesn't always need a great shooter I think your right
@@rubberneckinc.8937 A guy who scores 86 goals, is more valuable than a guy that gets 86 assists. No team in 1991 would have chosen Oates over Hull - none. Hull was better with Oates for sure, but he was a 50+ goal scorer no matter who he played with in his prime. Oates could not turn a 20 goal scorer into a 50 goal scorer.
@@The_Right_News I like your comments. You were right about by playing in the era he played he was forgotten (a bit) he's a Hall of Famer let's leave it at that.
Brett Hull always wanted to know why Oates was so unselfish but didn't wanna ask because he didn't want that to change. Oates enjoyed seeing his teammates score more than they did at some points
Brett Hull's 2 and 2/3 seasons w/ Oates
89/90 80gms 72 G 41 A
90/1 78gms 86 G 45 A
91/2 51gms 54 G 27 A
209 gms 212 G 113 A 325 prts
Makes sense that the unappreciated Adam Oates would go on TV defending the allegedly unappreciated Mitch Marner. I'll say this though: Adam Oates never lost in the first round seven out of eight years. If he DID, his legacy would be quite different. Also, I know it happened a lot more back then, but Oates had a propensity for walking out on his teams. I hated that shit. You signed a contract, bud. Honor it.
How do you not have more subs?
So the man scored his first goal against the north stars and then a clutch setup to beat the stars in his last big highlight. Ya know my team really loves giving those first goals up its hillarious everytime razor says a guy hasnt had a goal for like 6 months or somethin thats the guy who just puts a bummer in the net. I get why hockey is so superstitious. 😂
“Let’s see Paul Allen’s card”
I remember in the 90s he wasn't underappreciated at all. He was known and talked about a lot. For some reason though as time went on his name seemed to disappear
Idk if he was underrated for fans at the time, great video nonetheless . After Gretzky and Lemieux it was pretty much him (and Yzerman) for gifted passers/assist guys of the time. Plus recognized as one half of one of the greatest duos of all time. Maybe he is a little forgotten now though
Under appreciated seems to be a strange word to use in describing this Hall of Famer. Although he never played on a team I was particularly fond of, like most hockey fans I loved watching him play. I doubt there was a single team in the league who would have rejected a chance to land him. His contract re-negotiations with Washington after he was traded there proved him to be a class act through and through.
Paul allen 🤣
That was gold haha. Now I would like to see his card.
Do you like Genesis?
@@YzerWings ever listen to Huey lewis and the news?
shite, I didn't realize he never won a cup - as a Leaf fan I hated him - but respected his impact on the game.
Hull wanting to take a pay cut speaks volumes to both of their value!
I honestly cant think of anyone more underrated. I am not saying that person does not exist but I personally cant think of who that would be... maybe Ron Francis?
Francis did get recognition once he came over to Pittsburgh but I catch your drift.
I also think of Phil Housley and Larry Murphy.
At one point he along with two others produced the most points over a ten year period. My pool partner would not take him as a protection, that cost us dearly.
Meant to mention, no money in lacrosse.
Oats and Alexander Mogilnoy are 2 of The best players sho didn't get there dues
How on earth did you have someone as talented as Oates play for so many teams, somethings going on that we dont know about
Couldn't win in the playoffs.
Couldn't win in the playoffs. Oates didn't have much success. No cups. Plus he wasn't very fast. If he had worked on his skating more he would've been an absolute legend but I think he'll settle for just a Hall of Famer.
@@tommygoode9644 Also a victim of teams on the bubble. He joined the Wings in their "Dead Things" era. Then went to a Blues team that was entertaining as hell in those days but only considered a serious cup contender to local St. Louis sports talk radio for a few minutes in spring before they went back to talking about the Rams and Cardinals. Bruins were an almost contender but was never getting past the Penguins in those days, then they collapsed. Things may have gone differently for Boston if not for that Samuelsson hit on Neely, at least that's what I like to tell myself.
As far as his speed goes, he's not the only great player where skating wasn't his strength. I've loved to watching guys that lacked Oats' vision, but made a career on wing parked in front of the goalie and consistently driving home rebounds. I always appreciated that about Dave Andreychuk. It's possible that if Oats had never honed his selfless playmaker style and instead tried to develop himself into Pavel Bure he probably would have only been a mediocre, almost NHL-level player. I trust that he found his strength early in his career and ran with it. But you never know, Oats had a brush with Yzerman when he was a young offense-first goal scorer. But Yzerman became truly great when he learned to be a two-way player. So, players can transform, I guess it's not impossible.
Have heard he was not easy to get along with and it happened with more than one team. 🤷🏼♂️
@@achildr1 A player of his calibre will be allowed latitude in that regard if indeed he was a problem.
Juste vous rappeler que peter statsny était dans les années ‘80 le meilleur pointeur derrière Gretzky
Totally forgot about Sykora's goal.
Look into John leclair one of the most underrated players in hockey history.should be in the hall of fame ,gave Montreal there last cup and gave USA the 96 Canada cup..o yeah how about the legion of doom..definitely a player that hockey has forgot
You need good players around you to get noticed so it is never just about that ONE guy.
I have been watching hockey since the early 60's there has been many great players every single year I never center out just one.Funny though Joe Nieuwendyk was also a great Lacrosse player definitely a sport that toughens you up.
Hand eye co-ordination, hockey players are pretty tough already.
YEP! I've been saying this for years.
Underappreciated by who? I think most people who watched hockey when he played knew how good he was. I remember seeing features on HNIC of Hull and Oates a lot during Hull's massive goal season.
def. and Mogilny
@MSZFilms I'll see you an Adam Oates, and raise you a...Ron Francis. Second in all-time regular season assists - ONLY behind Gretzky. Two-time Stanley Cup winner. Without him, the Penguins would NOT have won their first two!!! Also,... keeping in mind,... Francis only has three 100 point seasons while Oates had four.
Lmao. Pittsburgh was winning those cups with John Cullen or Ron Francis bud
@@That90sShow As much as I liked John Cullen, he would NOT have delivered the to the Penguins their first two Cups to P-burgh. Francis stepped in (and up) when Mario got injured.
Oatmeal was the best.
WAY too high maintenance.. teams got tired of dealing with him.. period.. no team WANTED to trade him
Oates is under appreciated, but not to the degree that Ron Francis is.
7 nhl teams, not 6,
Oh shit! My bad aha
I love your content bud. But calling the audience “boys” is absolutely cringe.
It makes it sound like you’re trying to be a hockey guy lol. Don’t try. Just talk. Your content is great.
Oates completely sucked as a head coach.
School??? Pfff
Leon Draisaitl is like the Adam Oates of today's NHL.
not even close.
Draisaitl is a much better goal scorer and frankly just a better player in general, no disrespect to Oates.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Leon is better all around than McKinnon imo
Real hockey fans know how great Oates was
its cuz he was a closeted mo
You should DEFINITELY do one on Pat Lafontaine. Imo one of theeee most underrated of all time
Pat Lafontaine. Very happy that I was able to watch him in his glory years on tv and I wasn't even an Islanders or Sabres fan. But come playoff time I made sure to tune into his games just to watch his amazing skill.
When the guy was fully healthy he was a beast playmaker and goal scorer. If not for some rough injury plagued seasons on and off in his younger years and later in his career from 93 to 98, and he could have easily been a 1500 point career guy.
He still made it to over 1000 points in only 865 which is fricken amazing. Imagine Pat fully healthy throughout his career and possibly playing more seasons!! He was a victim of the heavy hitter checkers of the 80s sadly too and wasn't a big guy at all at only 5'10 and 180 pounds.
Also look at those years he played for the lowly basement dwelling Sabres who were quite a crummy team most of those seasons and the latter seasons of the Islanders(post dynasty years) yet he still put up massive points with them
One day I will definitely do a Patty lululuuluuluuuafontaine video 🫡😂