Chapters: 00.00 - Intro 00:58 - Tauru's rise and Luke Trainor's fall 02:17 - Tauru's highlights 05:36 - Comparing Trainor and Tauru 06:26 - North and Pick 2 09:51 - Final Word
I'd be interested if North and Tigers can make a deal, maybe 6 and 10 or 11. The majority of top 5 or even top 10 draft picks are mids with the odd exception. North have some really talented kids in the midfield (Sheezel, McKercher, Wardlaw, Powell) to go along with LDU and the new members of the team in Parker and Daniel who will float in the middle. I'm not sure adding another will help as much as getting 2 kpp's. Having said that, i'm happy with whatever the team decide as they have regained my trust over the last 2 seasons of drafting.
, love your content it is absolutely amazing! I love all the draft information it’s super informative, in depth and I love it. I simply love young players coming through but I specifically use it to follow who’ll be a gun in SuperCoach draft next year! For example I seek to find the next Sheezel or daicos or Reid via your information and data on the draft. I wanted to ask if you have a phantom draft revolving around SuperCoach / fantasy scoring more so than just pure talent ?
Just when I thought I was sold on Trainor for my ROO boys haha! I'm not discouraged by any stretch but you've sold me a two horse race here mate. The case you make for Tauru is also one I'd make for Armstrong. Bit higher than what they're worth, but if North want their man they'll take him. And whether it's an Armstrong, Tauru or Langford THAT'S THE VALUE OF A TOP 3 PICK! As a North supporter I'd really hope North split the pick. Pick 6 and 10 for North's pick 2 and 22 IMO would be fair. Granted North give up more in pts but it's the two shots in the top 15 that North are after. Where as Richmond will want pick 2 with the high value of pick 22. They could trade up further into the 1st round STILL! You've made a compelling case to be sure mate. I've subscribed haha. Interested to see what other content you've got coming next.
haha love this comment mate! yeah it's well and truly a two horse race! I do think North will attempt to split the pick, but it will be hard to get hold of 6 and 10 given the quality in the top end. I think North will do anything that gets them a combination of Tauru and Armstrong/Shanahan. ideally, I think picks in the 8-14 zone would get it done
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft I agree. So long as North have at least one top 10 pick and another in the top 15 we should definitely land any combination of Tauru, Armstrong, Shanahan and even Trainor. The combine is going to very big this year as that could mean all the difference for the first round contenders. Even the likes of Hynes, Faull, Allen, Sims and the Whitlock brothers are no doubt on North's radar. Not a bad draft board.
Great video, really enjoyed it and had no issues understanding it, some feedback though, maybe when you’re talking general about some of the players featured in this draft maybe add the most recent mock draft list top 10/15 to the side or wherever when you’re talking about it, otherwise it’s just you talking and it can be more engaging to look at the graphic and put it together ourselves, because unlike yourself, I’m not too all over the draft and players so it would help with that plus give us more to look at during! Take it or leave it but I thought the feedback might be worth it, thanks for the video!
I think North has stated that they'll take the best player available with their first pick, so anyone gambling on North picking Tauru with #2 is likely to be disappointed. #6 and 17 from Richmond for #2 is not enough. There seems to be a clear top 5, so #2 most definitely is very valuable for a club hoping to pick a very talented mid. North is also in need of a big bodied mid, so without anyone offering something worthwhile for #2 I can see North still pick Josh Smillie.
@@gustaaf1892 bro... the F/S has no implication on the player available at your picks.... you were never going to get ashcroft as he and every other FS and academy player were always going to their respected clubs.
@@bacillus5 Ashcroft is part of the top 5, so that pick will push other picks back. That's all I'm saying and that is factually correct. Pick 17 will likely become pick 20 or later, so it is relevant.
@@gustaaf1892 you implied that pick 6 and 17 are less valuable because of academy and F/S... its only relevant if you have academy players of your own that you need points for........
I was at the WA v Vic Country game and was sitting close to where Tauru marked that ball on the wing. I remember being impressed but not aware of who he was at the time.
Hi Dylan great content . Would be great to do an update on this video and if they trade this pick and what options they have . I think you will find that they actually have to trade it and add f1, to get a good pick . Reckon best option will be 10 and 20
Potential 3-Way (or More) Deal Breakdown: North Melbourne trades pick 2 and their future first-round pick: North Melbourne receives pick 6 from Richmond and pick 8 from St Kilda. Richmond trades pick 6, 10, and 11: Richmond receives pick 2 from North Melbourne and pick 7 or 9 from Melbourne or St Kilda. Melbourne trades pick 9: Melbourne receives Richmond’s pick 10 and possibly a future pick from North Melbourne. St Kilda trades pick 8: St Kilda receives pick 11 from Richmond and a future first-round pick from Melbourne. Resulting Picks: 1. North Melbourne ends up with: Picks 6 and 8 (two top-10 picks). 2. Richmond ends up with: Pick 2 and either pick 7 or 9, depending on final swaps. 3. Melbourne ends up with: Pick 10 and potentially a future first-round pick. 4. St Kilda ends up with: Pick 11 and a future first-round pick.
I think if Richmond select Jagga Smith at 1 and North still have Pick 2 I could see the Saints and Steven Silvagni pulling another bold live trade with North to get up the board and select FOS. Wonder what it would take without over/under-paying to get Pick 2? Assuming St Kilda have 7, 8, 24, 43 & all of their Future selections. Pick 7 + 24 for Pick 2? Probably not enough, Pick 7 + 24 and something else?
100% SOS will try to get creative and bold! I think our future 1st would have to be involved here to appease North, but the problem with that is our future 1st doesn't really help North out this year... it's a tricky one
@@TNT_12 I would be happy with the deal as long as we can some how retain one of 7 or 8. Meaning we take 2 and 7 or 8 to the draft. If that means backing ourselves in to improve next year and trading the Future 1st out I wouldn't hate the idea.
@@BigGameFish Completely agree, we must retain at least one of 7 or 8. Away from the North hypothetical, I can defs see SOS try to bunch our pick 24 up with our future 1st and move inside this year's first round... quite a few possibilities, can't wait to see what moves we try and pull off
Yeah this is a great shout actually! Yeah 7 + 8 is too much, 7 + 24 is not enough. I wonder if they could do something with 43 to leverage that pick 24 to a top 20 pick! Might be close to getting the job done
@@marcustanti535 hey mate, he’s 194cm on CTL app, i suspect that’s closer to his height! Not a massive number but he’s physically imposing and can take much taller much players!
Tigers are dead keen on Lalor and FOS. I bet my bottom dollar they trade 6 and 20 to North for 2, and take both of them at 1 and 2 (and then get another good player at 14, with Berry looking like a player in Richmonds wheelhouse if he makes it that far). North will figure Carlton and Adelaide will then take Smith and Dawson respectively at 3 and 4 and that only leaves Melbourne at 5 to worry about. North get the guy they would have taken at 2 anyway, and then get a free hit at 20 in a deep draft. Richmond get Dusty mk 2 with Lalor, and a classy mid in FOS (who will take a little longer, but they have time to develop him, and can afford to take the risk he's put into everyones mind this year that he might not make it).
I can’t see North trading down from pick 2 for 6 and 26 For all the talk of this draft being very even at the top IMO clubs with top 3 picks will have a potential franchise player in mind and would be very reluctant too trade down and risk losing that kind of prospect, just to gain a pick in the 20’s
Great vid, I think it’s a win win for north and tigers to work something out along those lines. I know this is a north vid but I can see a scenario where Richmond get aggressive and try to hold 123 this year it just looks like they really want to pair the chargers boys and grab a Langford/Laylor as well
There is a bit of Jeremy and Mitch McGovern in him also. Deceptively quick over a short distance and marks things he doesn’t have the right to get to. Hopefully he is closer to Jeremy…
Richmond should just take as many first round picks as they can. But I fear they’ll take the immature option and try to bundle early round 1 picks and later regret it. The first 20 appear incredibly even. Nobody can tell the order! Why is Langford better than Lindsay? Than Berry? Or many others in the open rd? The scenario here would far advantage Nth rather than Richmond. Nobody has a crystal ball concerning who the best midfielders are in rd one. And Richmond stuffed up on Terranto and Hopper big time 😮 So widen your options rather than trusting your non-existent “expertise “. Won’t Tigers whinge later when they miss out on Tobie Travaglia ?? 😮 He’ll run around in Carlton colours and probably thank his lucky stars Richmond were so selective 😅
Pick 2 has significant value for both Brisbane and Gold Coast because it allows them to get a pick in before Ashcroft and Lombard, respectively. Brisbane doesn't have much draft capital, but if Gold Coast do, if the Rioli trade doesn't work. Especially if North provides some low end points - they have two high 4th rounders and a third rounder.
@@brendanh8193 yeah Brisbane won’t be able to do anything tbh, they need to get points to match Ashcroft and Marshall. Gold coast, theoretically could jump the lombard bid but i just don’t see them wanting to do it! They have plenty of talented draft picks on their list, just need to develop them.
That's a terrible deal for Richmond. This draft is deep, so you'll get as good a player with 9 as you will with pick 2 or 3. Apparently, there isn't much difference between the first 10 to 12 picks.
@@JaredHayes-k9i well technically baker pick 9 for 3 is equal to pick 9 and pick 20 for pick 3 if you use the point system. So Richmond are paying overs. WCE would probably have to send a second round back with pick 3 for baker and pick nine.
L Mac shouldv stepped down as co captain, its the only thing that kept him in the seniors, he needs to put team first
Towqrds the end of the season rumour was he's stepping down for next year
Supporters should respect the club and lmac more
@@bomberwarren ye no worries bomber
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I'd be interested if North and Tigers can make a deal, maybe 6 and 10 or 11. The majority of top 5 or even top 10 draft picks are mids with the odd exception. North have some really talented kids in the midfield (Sheezel, McKercher, Wardlaw, Powell) to go along with LDU and the new members of the team in Parker and Daniel who will float in the middle. I'm not sure adding another will help as much as getting 2 kpp's. Having said that, i'm happy with whatever the team decide as they have regained my trust over the last 2 seasons of drafting.
, love your content it is absolutely amazing! I love all the draft information it’s super informative, in depth and I love it. I simply love young players coming through but I specifically use it to follow who’ll be a gun in SuperCoach draft next year!
For example I seek to find the next Sheezel or daicos or Reid via your information and data on the draft.
I wanted to ask if you have a phantom draft revolving around SuperCoach / fantasy scoring more so than just pure talent ?
Great channel and I’m glad I found it 🤙subscribed
@@andrewross5346 thanks mate glad you enjoy!
Just when I thought I was sold on Trainor for my ROO boys haha!
I'm not discouraged by any stretch but you've sold me a two horse race here mate.
The case you make for Tauru is also one I'd make for Armstrong. Bit higher than what they're worth, but if North want their man they'll take him. And whether it's an Armstrong, Tauru or Langford THAT'S THE VALUE OF A TOP 3 PICK!
As a North supporter I'd really hope North split the pick. Pick 6 and 10 for North's pick 2 and 22 IMO would be fair. Granted North give up more in pts but it's the two shots in the top 15 that North are after.
Where as Richmond will want pick 2 with the high value of pick 22. They could trade up further into the 1st round STILL!
You've made a compelling case to be sure mate. I've subscribed haha. Interested to see what other content you've got coming next.
haha love this comment mate! yeah it's well and truly a two horse race! I do think North will attempt to split the pick, but it will be hard to get hold of 6 and 10 given the quality in the top end. I think North will do anything that gets them a combination of Tauru and Armstrong/Shanahan. ideally, I think picks in the 8-14 zone would get it done
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft I agree. So long as North have at least one top 10 pick and another in the top 15 we should definitely land any combination of Tauru, Armstrong, Shanahan and even Trainor.
The combine is going to very big this year as that could mean all the difference for the first round contenders.
Even the likes of Hynes, Faull, Allen, Sims and the Whitlock brothers are no doubt on North's radar. Not a bad draft board.
Great video, really enjoyed it and had no issues understanding it, some feedback though, maybe when you’re talking general about some of the players featured in this draft maybe add the most recent mock draft list top 10/15 to the side or wherever when you’re talking about it, otherwise it’s just you talking and it can be more engaging to look at the graphic and put it together ourselves, because unlike yourself, I’m not too all over the draft and players so it would help with that plus give us more to look at during! Take it or leave it but I thought the feedback might be worth it, thanks for the video!
Great video!
As a north supporter I would love your trade proposal.
6- Tauru
15-17 - Berry
Second round pick- a Whitlock or Faull?
@@Mbert7246 thank you 🙏 yeah 15-17 would get Faull, Whitlock or berry easily i think! Maybe a shanahan or armstrong slides!
Love it as always
@@MisterAWasTaken thank you 🙏
I think North has stated that they'll take the best player available with their first pick, so anyone gambling on North picking Tauru with #2 is likely to be disappointed. #6 and 17 from Richmond for #2 is not enough. There seems to be a clear top 5, so #2 most definitely is very valuable for a club hoping to pick a very talented mid. North is also in need of a big bodied mid, so without anyone offering something worthwhile for #2 I can see North still pick Josh Smillie.
With Langford coming through there's a clear top 6 now and a strong top 25 in this draft. #6 and #17 is worth more than #2.
@@mrgedavies Picks will be pushed back by father-son and academy picks. I'd much rather hang on to #2 instead of take #6 and 17.
@@gustaaf1892 bro... the F/S has no implication on the player available at your picks.... you were never going to get ashcroft as he and every other FS and academy player were always going to their respected clubs.
@@bacillus5 Ashcroft is part of the top 5, so that pick will push other picks back. That's all I'm saying and that is factually correct. Pick 17 will likely become pick 20 or later, so it is relevant.
@@gustaaf1892 you implied that pick 6 and 17 are less valuable because of academy and F/S... its only relevant if you have academy players of your own that you need points for........
I was at the WA v Vic Country game and was sitting close to where Tauru marked that ball on the wing. I remember being impressed but not aware of who he was at the time.
Hi Dylan great content . Would be great to do an update on this video and if they trade this pick and what options they have . I think you will find that they actually have to trade it and add f1, to get a good pick . Reckon best option will be 10 and 20
Spot on about tigers not trading. Leave north to take taru at 2. Either pushes a midfielder down or maybe even Taru at 6
Potential 3-Way (or More) Deal Breakdown:
North Melbourne trades pick 2 and their future first-round pick:
North Melbourne receives pick 6 from Richmond and pick 8 from St Kilda.
Richmond trades pick 6, 10, and 11:
Richmond receives pick 2 from North Melbourne and pick 7 or 9 from Melbourne or St Kilda.
Melbourne trades pick 9:
Melbourne receives Richmond’s pick 10 and possibly a future pick from North Melbourne.
St Kilda trades pick 8:
St Kilda receives pick 11 from Richmond and a future first-round pick from Melbourne.
Resulting Picks:
1. North Melbourne ends up with:
Picks 6 and 8 (two top-10 picks).
2. Richmond ends up with:
Pick 2 and either pick 7 or 9, depending on final swaps.
3. Melbourne ends up with:
Pick 10 and potentially a future first-round pick.
4. St Kilda ends up with:
Pick 11 and a future first-round pick.
Great vid!
TauROO to the Roos has a nice ring to it! 🦘
it's fate!
I think north just pick the best available
Josh smilie=beast
Would love to see Smith go to the pre-season and then get picked by another team. That would wipe his smirk off his and Geelong's face.
In 10 years time i wouldnt be shocked if he ended up been the best player in the draft. Might take a few years to develop but could be anything
Taru at pick 2 is an absurd suggestion.
How do they lose trade leverage when a club who gets pick 2 can choose who they want?
If north take the Viking then it gifts the Blues either one of FOS or Lalor at #3. What a get either would be for Carlton
I think if Richmond select Jagga Smith at 1 and North still have Pick 2 I could see the Saints and Steven Silvagni pulling another bold live trade with North to get up the board and select FOS.
Wonder what it would take without over/under-paying to get Pick 2?
Assuming St Kilda have 7, 8, 24, 43 & all of their Future selections.
Pick 7 + 24 for Pick 2? Probably not enough, Pick 7 + 24 and something else?
100% SOS will try to get creative and bold! I think our future 1st would have to be involved here to appease North, but the problem with that is our future 1st doesn't really help North out this year... it's a tricky one
@@TNT_12 I would be happy with the deal as long as we can some how retain one of 7 or 8. Meaning we take 2 and 7 or 8 to the draft. If that means backing ourselves in to improve next year and trading the Future 1st out I wouldn't hate the idea.
@@BigGameFish Completely agree, we must retain at least one of 7 or 8. Away from the North hypothetical, I can defs see SOS try to bunch our pick 24 up with our future 1st and move inside this year's first round... quite a few possibilities, can't wait to see what moves we try and pull off
Yeah this is a great shout actually! Yeah 7 + 8 is too much, 7 + 24 is not enough. I wonder if they could do something with 43 to leverage that pick 24 to a top 20 pick! Might be close to getting the job done
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft It's very likely that our pick 43 will have to go to the Bulldogs for Macrae
Hi mate - he looks good but how can he be key position. Isn’t he only 191 cms??
@@marcustanti535 hey mate, he’s 194cm on CTL app, i suspect that’s closer to his height! Not a massive number but he’s physically imposing and can take much taller much players!
Tigers are dead keen on Lalor and FOS. I bet my bottom dollar they trade 6 and 20 to North for 2, and take both of them at 1 and 2 (and then get another good player at 14, with Berry looking like a player in Richmonds wheelhouse if he makes it that far). North will figure Carlton and Adelaide will then take Smith and Dawson respectively at 3 and 4 and that only leaves Melbourne at 5 to worry about.
North get the guy they would have taken at 2 anyway, and then get a free hit at 20 in a deep draft. Richmond get Dusty mk 2 with Lalor, and a classy mid in FOS (who will take a little longer, but they have time to develop him, and can afford to take the risk he's put into everyones mind this year that he might not make it).
I can’t see North trading down from pick 2 for 6 and 26
For all the talk of this draft being very even at the top
IMO clubs with top 3 picks will have a potential franchise player in mind and would be very reluctant too trade down and risk losing that kind of prospect, just to gain a pick in the 20’s
Take ya number 1 pick and scoot off to Tassie ?
I think north could give up pick 2 and pick 22 for 6 and 9
I reckon they should split it for picks 12 and 14.
@@BigCatinBKK 2? 6 and 18 I reckon
@@DylanAlexanderFollowsDraft Pick 12 and Matt Owies is my final offer.
Great vid, I think it’s a win win for north and tigers to work something out along those lines. I know this is a north vid but I can see a scenario where Richmond get aggressive and try to hold 123 this year it just looks like they really want to pair the chargers boys and grab a Langford/Laylor as well
A bit OTT on the analysis of some straight forward plays here.
Looks like Sam Taylor a bit….just manic attack on the ball and man!
There is a bit of Jeremy and Mitch McGovern in him also. Deceptively quick over a short distance and marks things he doesn’t have the right to get to. Hopefully he is closer to Jeremy…
@@Mbert7246 good call….hopefully he plays alongside Jeremy next year ;)
It’s norf they’re gonna pick the weirdest option haha
beats your ass
Pick 6 and 17 is not appropriate for pick 2
Richmond should just take as many first round picks as they can. But I fear they’ll take the immature option and try to bundle early round 1 picks and later regret it. The first 20 appear incredibly even. Nobody can tell the order! Why is Langford better than Lindsay? Than Berry? Or many others in the open rd? The scenario here would far advantage Nth rather than Richmond. Nobody has a crystal ball concerning who the best midfielders are in rd one. And Richmond stuffed up on Terranto and Hopper big time 😮 So widen your options rather than trusting your non-existent “expertise “. Won’t Tigers whinge later when they miss out on Tobie Travaglia ?? 😮 He’ll run around in Carlton colours and probably thank his lucky stars Richmond were so selective 😅
Just go against everything and pick him, fk mids
Best option for North is to trade back. I think we can get the kinda players we want further down the board.
Trainor available 2nd round at this rate
Yeah agree! It’s just hard this year, because a pick 2 doesn’t have the value of other years!
Lots of clubs probably thinking similar too. Who gets in first for trading back?!?! 🤔
@@deanbeissel2807i think if teams can offer up some players it might help too
Pick 2 has significant value for both Brisbane and Gold Coast because it allows them to get a pick in before Ashcroft and Lombard, respectively. Brisbane doesn't have much draft capital, but if Gold Coast do, if the Rioli trade doesn't work. Especially if North provides some low end points - they have two high 4th rounders and a third rounder.
@@brendanh8193 yeah Brisbane won’t be able to do anything tbh, they need to get points to match Ashcroft and Marshall. Gold coast, theoretically could jump the lombard bid but i just don’t see them wanting to do it! They have plenty of talented draft picks on their list, just need to develop them.
Richmond could give West Coast pick 9 ( Freo - Bolton ) and Baker for pick 3. West Coast get Pick 2 and give North pick 9, Darling and pick 23.
WC aren’t doing the first trade and North certainly aren’t doing the second trade
I like your thinking! Not sure north would give up pick two for 9 and 23 though. Don’t think Darling has that much weight
That's a terrible deal for Richmond. This draft is deep, so you'll get as good a player with 9 as you will with pick 2 or 3. Apparently, there isn't much difference between the first 10 to 12 picks.
@@JaredHayes-k9i well technically baker pick 9 for 3 is equal to pick 9 and pick 20 for pick 3 if you use the point system. So Richmond are paying overs. WCE would probably have to send a second round back with pick 3 for baker and pick nine.
That number 2 pick is coming to Richmond
He won't go in the top 10!